of course the clear advantage of true monchrome shooting is *seeing and visualising in monochrome* from the outset. It's typically seen as a strength (for b&w photography), not a limitation. Whereas converting after the fact is, objectively, an imitation: the different mindset when shooting, compounded by the sensor's colour array and de-mozaic processing and subsequent lesser dynamic range.
The tri-x presets are hands down my favorite ones. Can’t wait to dive in them for re edits from Scotland for my new site! Thanks for always making these and be amazing!
I did tri-x way back when in my old Nikon and developed my own film and printed it. Today I have a Leica Q2M and my Hasselblad X1DII for my serious work. I would have bought the presets in a heartbeat if you had it for Affinity Photo 2 which I use for all my photo work. I dumped Adobe because of their pricing schemes. I hope you do this preset for Affinity Photo. A lot of people are using it now.
Wow buying it :) regarding the m11 mono what’s your thoughts on in in the long run is it Worth it or your considering to sell it and just convert your images to black-and-white
I’m probably going to sell it. It’s been fun and all, and I plan to use it a bit more. But ultimately, I think it’s a camera who never shoots color and is fully committed to black and white. The subtleties of the tone compared to a color conversion isn’t really worth carrying two bodies and spending the $$$ on it. The nice thing about this level of gear is the ability to unload it with no loss. I bought used and will sell for the same price.
Added to my list of existing VGP presets - looks great. One (certainly dumb) question - if I don't have a Fuji camera, there's no real use for the Fuji presets, right?
If you bought the Capture One version, it includes a Fuji profile because Fuji sensors and colors are so vastly different it required us to build a separate version for Fuji. It will only make sense on Fuji sensors, though. In the LR version, using Adobe profiles negates the need for this.
This is why I need a laptop, on the ipad LR or PS don’t have certain options or of they do is hard to get them, I do all my editing on the ipad but I NEED a laptop. Loved the presets and the video is very educational. I might repeat it to put practice on my editing
Yeah, the iPad version is definitely limited. I don't get it because I have an M2 iPad Pro that's more powerful than our family M1 iMac, but they keep the LR version on the iPad limited. Adobe makes no sense.
I'll be in the market for a 50mm 1.4 summulix soon. So many to chose from. I shoot 90%j black and white if that helps, a tab would be nice and trying to keep it under $2,000. what do you recommend generation makes sense
Hi Dave, a great video, mate! Yes, I see that like you. Black & white images convey a very special mood and I think that is given because it doesn't reflect reality 1 by 1, it is already an abstract version of it. And we like to get away from reality and look at abstract things. Well explained and cool presets 😉 Nice greetings, Christian
Dave, THANK-YOU!!! Tri-X was my go to in the late 60's and 70's as I was doing year book photography. Bought it by 100' rolls and rolled my own film canisters. Developed and enlarged my own. Used it to capture sports because it was so fast (ASA 400!). I could push it to 800 or 1600 by developing longer. This brings back so many memories! Thanks. Are you planning on Plus-X or Panatomic? I really liked the PanX for my nature photography (ASA 25)!
Nowadays I prefer a color sensor even for shooting monochrome-only. The ability to do the BW-mixing in post is invaluable to me. Despite the great noise performance, monochrome sensors can be a bit tricky to deal with in the highlights, since they saturate faster. And when shooting with an EVF (Leica Q series) a monochrome sensor forces your view to be monochrome as well. On the regular version you can pick. When shooting B/W film you never see a black and white image in the viewfinder either.
I don't know if the difference is worth carrying two cameras. I feel like shooting a monochrom requires you to just commit permanently. I'm trying to hybrid, and for hybrid, your approach makes the most sense.
@ Exactly. The one nice thing about mono sensors (except the intentional limitation) is how practical high ISOs are. Similar feeling of novelty to shooting on a high MP body for the first time.
Yep! Every VGP pack comes with DNG files for mobile-only users, and if you use LR cloud then the XMP presets will sync from desktop over to mobile as well.
I've never liked Tri-x. I've always preferred Ilford Delta 100 - or my absolute favorite for 120, Agfa Copex Rapid 50. It's document film used primarily in the old microfilm industry but the contrast and sharpness, and smoothness completely blow away Tri-X. So much so that I can honestly say I see no reason to use Tri-X again.
Okay I bought it and I used it for some of my photos during hurricane Milton in Florida and I am printing out some large format to see how that looks, maybe I will sell prints locally
I am totally colorblind. I have achromatopsia. And I like this video and what you explain here.
Wild! Thanks for sharing.
of course the clear advantage of true monchrome shooting is *seeing and visualising in monochrome* from the outset. It's typically seen as a strength (for b&w photography), not a limitation. Whereas converting after the fact is, objectively, an imitation: the different mindset when shooting, compounded by the sensor's colour array and de-mozaic processing and subsequent lesser dynamic range.
Thanks for sharing!
The tri-x presets are hands down my favorite ones. Can’t wait to dive in them for re edits from Scotland for my new site!
Thanks for always making these and be amazing!
Thanks so much!
So good Dave! I’ve been waiting for this. Literally the best presets I’ve used over many years of spending money on presets. Haha
Love hearing this! Hope you enjoy it. Thanks for the support!
I did tri-x way back when in my old Nikon and developed my own film and printed it. Today I have a Leica Q2M and my Hasselblad X1DII for my serious work. I would have bought the presets in a heartbeat if you had it for Affinity Photo 2 which I use for all my photo work. I dumped Adobe because of their pricing schemes. I hope you do this preset for Affinity Photo. A lot of people are using it now.
If the demand gets there I’ll make presets for Affinity.
So so so grateful you have these available for C1! Purchasing now
Heck yeah! That’s all Chris!
These are amazing
Thank you!
Interested in how you're putting on the border, is that something happening outside of LR that's being put in? Just wondering based on destructiveness
It's in LR, non-destructive. It's done with VERY careful masking.
Wow buying it :) regarding the m11 mono what’s your thoughts on in in the long run is it Worth it or your considering to sell it and just convert your images to black-and-white
I’m probably going to sell it. It’s been fun and all, and I plan to use it a bit more. But ultimately, I think it’s a camera who never shoots color and is fully committed to black and white. The subtleties of the tone compared to a color conversion isn’t really worth carrying two bodies and spending the $$$ on it. The nice thing about this level of gear is the ability to unload it with no loss. I bought used and will sell for the same price.
Wow I thought the m11m is a world of difference between the m11 & m11m but I think now after hearing you I will buy the m10-p or m11 thanks Dave.
Added to my list of existing VGP presets - looks great. One (certainly dumb) question - if I don't have a Fuji camera, there's no real use for the Fuji presets, right?
If you bought the Capture One version, it includes a Fuji profile because Fuji sensors and colors are so vastly different it required us to build a separate version for Fuji. It will only make sense on Fuji sensors, though.
In the LR version, using Adobe profiles negates the need for this.
@@davidherring Thanks! I figured it was something like that. Interesting that LR and CO are so different that way.
This is why I need a laptop, on the ipad LR or PS don’t have certain options or of they do is hard to get them, I do all my editing on the ipad but I NEED a laptop. Loved the presets and the video is very educational. I might repeat it to put practice on my editing
Yeah, the iPad version is definitely limited. I don't get it because I have an M2 iPad Pro that's more powerful than our family M1 iMac, but they keep the LR version on the iPad limited. Adobe makes no sense.
I'll be in the market for a 50mm 1.4 summulix soon. So many to chose from. I shoot 90%j black and white if that helps, a tab would be nice and trying to keep it under $2,000. what do you recommend generation makes sense
I think the prior generation 50 summilux is selling around $2300-2500 and it’s a fantastic lens. I had it before switching to the close focus.
@ is that pre aspherical or aspherical? With built in lens hood?
Thanks for the video, are you planning on offer the presets as a pack at any point?
We need that 👍
Packs get tricky when I discount every preset individually for my RUclips channel and mailing list. I'll think on it though.
Hi Dave, a great video, mate! Yes, I see that like you. Black & white images convey a very special mood and I think that is given because it doesn't reflect reality 1 by 1, it is already an abstract version of it. And we like to get away from reality and look at abstract things. Well explained and cool presets 😉
Nice greetings,
Christian
Thanks Christian!
Dave, THANK-YOU!!! Tri-X was my go to in the late 60's and 70's as I was doing year book photography. Bought it by 100' rolls and rolled my own film canisters. Developed and enlarged my own. Used it to capture sports because it was so fast (ASA 400!). I could push it to 800 or 1600 by developing longer. This brings back so many memories! Thanks. Are you planning on Plus-X or Panatomic? I really liked the PanX for my nature photography (ASA 25)!
Love the idea! PanX would be fun!
Nowadays I prefer a color sensor even for shooting monochrome-only.
The ability to do the BW-mixing in post is invaluable to me. Despite the great noise performance, monochrome sensors can be a bit tricky to deal with in the highlights, since they saturate faster.
And when shooting with an EVF (Leica Q series) a monochrome sensor forces your view to be monochrome as well. On the regular version you can pick.
When shooting B/W film you never see a black and white image in the viewfinder either.
I don't know if the difference is worth carrying two cameras. I feel like shooting a monochrom requires you to just commit permanently. I'm trying to hybrid, and for hybrid, your approach makes the most sense.
@ Exactly. The one nice thing about mono sensors (except the intentional limitation) is how practical high ISOs are. Similar feeling of novelty to shooting on a high MP body for the first time.
Do they wotk in version mobile of LR?
Yep! Every VGP pack comes with DNG files for mobile-only users, and if you use LR cloud then the XMP presets will sync from desktop over to mobile as well.
The only way to get Leica monochrome though is by removing the *e* to Monochrom ;)
But what if you just want good ol’ god fearing monochrome and not be Leica?
I've never liked Tri-x. I've always preferred Ilford Delta 100 - or my absolute favorite for 120, Agfa Copex Rapid 50. It's document film used primarily in the old microfilm industry but the contrast and sharpness, and smoothness completely blow away Tri-X. So much so that I can honestly say I see no reason to use Tri-X again.
Thanks for sharing!
damnit i just bought fp4 lol
It’s a totally different look 💪🏼
@@davidherring for sure, il get it when I can!
Okay I bought it and I used it for some of my photos during hurricane Milton in Florida and I am printing out some large format to see how that looks, maybe I will sell prints locally
First
Ill comment when i am done with the video
Thanks!