The biggest problem Mercedes can't make their car run low ride height compare to other teams. I think they zero pod concept was not really a problem, it is more their suspension and floor design.
I don’t understand why, when Hamilton did well in the sprint race, they messed about with his setup. Surely the best option would have been to leave it alone
Setups for quali, sprint, and race SHOULD be completely different. You would set up your car differently knowing you're carrying less fuel, running softer compounds, no pit stops, and if you're expecting closer racing and dirty air for the entirety of the sprint.
But they've experimented for almost 3 years now and nothing has been found. Other teams still learn their cars without experimenting, but rather just optimize the package they have every weekend and learn from that. This experimentation doesn't really help. If anything, it's slows them down.
@@Luke-en2tk That's fine, but what you MIGHT gain in experientation will be outweighed by what they lose in race results. Ultimately, I think it's better that they focus on maximising each weekend and learn from the data they collect from that. Minor setup changes won't make them much quicker.
@@Michael.Koulibaly Merc aren't in F1 to fight for 6th place though, they are hoping they will come upon some magic setup which clearly isn't in the current iteration
@@Luke-en2tk Exactly. That's why they should forget hoping for magic bullets and instead focus on simply maximising every week through what they do know, not what they're hoping to find. It's obvious that the car just isn't good. Each time they've tried something different, it's usually revealed to them what doesn't work, instead of revealing what will work going forward because the experimentation results in them falling backwards in races usually.
I still can't comprehend how Lewis got P2 in the dry sprint 🤷 that car was 1.2s off in sprint to Max's Red bull and 1.6s off in GP But still somehow he managed P2 possibly thanks to clear air but still super impressive and probably the best result for Mercedes for this season
Alonso literally held up everyone for 3/4 of the race lol. Lewis was getting caught over a second a lap once checo cleared him and Ferrari. He got LUCKY to be there in second.
Only because it was raining during the sprint quli so performance doesn't matter as much so during the sprint and race because the car was so bad compared to the cars around him
If experimenting means set up changes, that’s impossible to ask. Bc if they do that then they are concretely midfield anyway. It’s a former champion team trying to unlock something. How do you think their drivers fair who likely are right there pushing the team bc of course they are they would never accept stagnation or decline. This is why drivers of this talent get stir crazy and tend to overdrive with a less than mustard car eg see Leclerc
@@EddieTheH 4x what Haas were... Before the budget cap Mercedes were spending $484M, Ferrari $463M and Redbull $445M... And that showed in the results on the grid.
Mercedes needs to get their act together. And for them to do that they’ll HAVE to experiment. You can not change for the better without trying out stuff.
At the current position they're in, they should try lots of things... So I disagree. They can't seem to figure out what is wrong, so they have to try different things, eventually it will set them on the right path.
The biggest problem of Mercedes will be gone next year. The 2nd biggest will still remain, but that's also just a question of time, or FIA stepping in to chase him back to Vienna.
Unpopular opinion but the zero pod car was NOT the problem, it was the floor and their ride height woes which for a ground effect car is fatal for generating the required suction. Irony too that teams are converging closer and closer to a zero pod-lite concept. The whole we got fooled by Brazil 22 is just justification for further experimentation. The updated 23 car also seemed to suit Lewis a lot more as well, but now both him and George are no where. How the mighty have fallen but this is normal to anyone that's watched F1 long enough.
"Experimenting" is the only excuse They can use after 3 years of no design congruence. I don't think "Allison doesn't know $hit about how to make a downforce car work" is going to go over very well.
But they definitely experimented. There’s no way lewis is quick on Saturday and a snail on Sunday. But i don’t get it. Why change something when you just got 2nd place?
No. In my opinion experimenting can lead to great success. Yet with the budget cap you have to do it in the simulator, which doesn’t work. What Mercedes should do is fix their simulations.
Adrian Newey is leaving RedBull officially announced today. Not sure where he would looked to go since he's contracted till 2025. Most likely he would Aston Martin or Ferrari or retire as he has stated this at Japan GP.
They’re trying to speedrun it but they keep failing and making their situation worse. They just need to accept that they’re a midfield team and work on building up again. Slowly
I thought this year was supposed to be ‘back to basics’? I think there needs to be a degree of acceptance that they’re not a number one team anymore. No one was saying that about McLaren a year or two ago. Idk why there’s an expectation that they should be leading the field after the budget cap regs.
If you are fully aware of the impossibility to challenge for championship then why not keep on exploring those unknowns. there's nothing to lose by tinkering and experimenting when you are already only fighting midfields.
They did they listen to Hamilton and you see the results this year. The W15 is even worse than the W13 and W14, they need to get rid of the overrated driver…
@@Fake67257 be happy he is going to ferrari, then get your fucked up mercedes improve after his exit, unless sainz comes(performance wont improve still but the positions will maintain)
Mercedes are trying to compensate for having the 3rd most powerful engine on the grid, the only engine with less power is the Renault. Which is quite remarkable considering they had a huge engine advantage when these engine regulations started.
There is malayalam saying, for a master even a tiny grass can use as weapon, so even a bloody car in wright hand can does the magic, eg max doing the best, but same car with sergio is int great😢
Team doesn't make mistakes, it's the component between steering wheel and engine that is defective. See being 18 in quali when the other Merc took fight to Ferraris at the front...
From 2022-2023 what mercedes did for all season was just fixing their problems then mid season decided to follow the mainstream just for next season to go back with experiment concept and then back again follows the mainstraim while the other teams have fully committed with the mainstream, i mean that just purely incompetence wishy washy from them being too stubborn for their own good using experiment concept to be different now when they fully committed to follow the mainstream, the top team the center of the regulation adrian newey is reaping 2 years of their experiment that they abandoned......... Truly ironic.
we keep going back to the time lewis told the boffs at mercedes that they needed..... and then he gave them a list. they in turn told lewis he didnt know what he was talking about and should stick to driving and let the designers (et al) do the job they are paid for. one has to wonder had they listened to lewis in the first place, would they now have a car that could win the odd race? Ferrari won 4 races in 22 (George Russell won in brazil after MV tried his best to take lewis out of the race! had they listened to the feedback, this years car (the W15) would have likely BEEN this years car, instead of the 2023 car they have right now! this is the same team that cost lewis hamilton a win at monaco because they would rather believe a fuggin computer than their actual drivers. and to be quite frank, im totally on board with lewis moving to ferrari, i just wish he'd done it earlier!
Mercedes have lacked downforce ever since these 2022 regs began, and i dont see them gaining significant amount of downforce for the rest of this regulation cycle
This year's car was developed from a list of complaints Hamilton had from the 22 and 23 cars... And it's worse than both. You can see why they're happy to let him go.
I don’t buy the whole set up experimenting is the reason for their car being so slow. They don’t have the huge engine advantage anymore and they are exposed for that they really are
What aload of crap. If people believe that Lewis decided to go setup hunting in 2022 after Abu Dhabi 2021 and send George out to race as a new member to the team you are kidding yourself. It was an excuse. He is nothing in an average car. He is simply showing his true talent. Or the lack of it
Mercedes is squandering perhaps the strongest driver pairing in Formula 1!! It sounds like not listening to your driver's feedback on race design is their biggest problem.
gotta love how you say that you have sources and that members of the team have admitted this but then as quickly as you can run away from sharing those sources or quotes from team members. yet again the race with their "sources? i made it up" bs
I realise this is an odd request and feel free to tell to do one but can you please stop saying "F1 2024" and just say "2024" . 2024 is a year in which mercedes are struggling again. F1 2024 is an upcoming video game.
Mercedes has always been a team that has relied to technical advacements to dominate the championship. They simply need to be the best at the basics of F1 as RB has done
this year rbr copied mercedes concept of zero side pods and engine cover bulges and they made it work while Mercedes could not in the past 2 seasons. bitter irony.
2022 - Lewis did bad because of set-up experiments 2024 - Lewis does bad..... Maybe he isn't that great when not in a dominant car. If Russell beats Lewis in 2024 that's 2:1.
Everyone wanted a seat at Mercedes so George Russell got it then Mercedes turned into shet sucks for George Russell right now Mercedes is a top 5 team ATM Red Bull, Ferrari, MacLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes
To be fair he's developed the car a lot over the years. He's admitted it, the team have admitted it.. and it has paid off for them in the latter parts of the year but I think it's just time to stop... Accept you'll be the best of the rest and put this season to bed.
He definitely helped with the 22-23 car. In 22, he used the 1st version of W13, while George used the newer version of W13. This gives the team more data despite having him going slower than his own teammate. In 23, He helped the team tuning to get the right setup with Russell. Not sure whether that worked or not, but merc got 2nd in constructor so not bad.
The british media is always acting like Mercedes has a pace difference like Lola-MasterCard to Williams in 1997 when compared to literally every other team on the grid these days. What's the reason for that? Hiding that Sir Lewis is actually not as good as people thought?
He might not be doing well this year so far, but he was fighting Checo (driving the most dominant car in f1 history) for p2 last year. And last year Mercedes were 3rd or 4th fastest, Redbull McLaren and Ferrari were ahead.
All this noise about Mercedes is a smokescreen to cover the British media’s claims that Lewis was the greatest ever driver and now he’s not. They can’t reconcile it so they start making stuff up about matters like testing and changing setups of which they have not possible idea about.
@@nigelkelley3004 lewis haters are honestly funny. I can smell the desperation 😂. But i get it there’s a lot of mental gymnastics needed to discredit someone that dragged the merc to p3 in the championship. Y’all use every single bad result to somehow claim he’s been trash his entire career. If lewis is bad what is Alonso? What kind of person do you have to be to do everything possible to discredit a 40yo man who doesn’t know you exist? I could never lol. Let’s see what Hamilton can do in the Ferrari with motivation and then we can talk.
@@PurpleT-Rexhe was far away from checo honestly, it was checo’s mistakes and Ferrari’s blunders that were the reason for Hamilton being in third in the championship. And the redbull isn’t the most dominant car in f1 history, those were the Mercedes where they were finishing with so many 1-2’s and a second ahead in qualifying during their engine advantage era. The f1 field is closer than it has ever been in f1 history and the big difference is max who is being the most dominant driver in f1 history. He is doing what Lewis could not when Lewis had even faster cars compared to the competition
@@ajegelin Hamilton lost the fight for p2 when he crashed in Qatar. Look up what’s the most dominant car, the rb19 won 95% or 21 of 22 races it participated in. The difference between Lewis and Verstappen is that Lewis actually had good teammates and rivalry, the only season that Lewis truly didn’t have competition was 2020. Besides the Red Bull has always had good aero, so in tracks where it wasn’t so engine dependent they were fastest. Max is great driver but I’d like to see how good he is against champions like Alonso, Button, and Nico Rosberg. Let’s see how he does when he doesn’t have the best car and starts driving dirty and crashing with everyone again.
They gave up in this season just like HAAS did some other season, so they gonna use this whole season to the craziest shit to their car in hopes of founding something new throughout the most bad set ups. It's not even that hard to figure, why all the complaining, even George, FFFFF, it's just an experimental season now. Just watch. God, damn it. *Personal take*
If I was a Ferrari fan with Hamilton coming in I would be worries he would be bringing what he does for Mercedes which is exactly in this video. Let’s hope he learns to just go back to driving the car and challenging
considering he was the best non redbull driver in 2023 and beating russel in the last 2 races seems quite silly to write off a driver before the season has even finished. he is a muti wdc and would be much more useful to ferrari than almost any other driver on the grid apart from Max
@@fulumukwevho4744 You obviously haven't been educated correctly. Being critical of someone is not an indication of hate. You just don't like people thinking critically.
It's all down to Toto Wolff. Hes as dumb as Nikki Lauda was brilliant. Or, maybe Wolff has put himself in a place where he's wealthy, win or lose. And lose is all he's able to do, or cares to do.
Ffs they are not experimenting, that’s bullshit, it’s only Hamilton talking about that, just to have an excuse for his weak performance…, what will his excuse be when he is underperforming at Ferrari?!
The biggest problem Mercedes can't make their car run low ride height compare to other teams. I think they zero pod concept was not really a problem, it is more their suspension and floor design.
That is what excatly my taughts .
And Hamilton doesn't seem to know how to set up the car since his experiments seem to regularly fall
@@lonyo5377 I think the 7 time wdc knows how to set up a car...
@@lonyo5377 the thing is he risks it too much and it doesn’t help
@@thorodinson7467 yes he does know .
Stop inventing...
first thing that comes to mind 😂
Hes intimidating me
No they should becuse they will come up with more stuff and it will be cooler in the long run!
Guys guys, stop inventing - Señor Smooth Operator
I don’t understand why, when Hamilton did well in the sprint race, they messed about with his setup. Surely the best option would have been to leave it alone
apparently he's the one who pushed for setup change for Sunday's race. I don't know if that's true but that's the word on the street.
Because he had a good quali then Alonso held up the rest of the fast cars for 3/4 of the race lol
Why would you have the same setup from a wet quali as a dry race?
Setups for quali, sprint, and race SHOULD be completely different. You would set up your car differently knowing you're carrying less fuel, running softer compounds, no pit stops, and if you're expecting closer racing and dirty air for the entirety of the sprint.
What Mercedes needs is Adrian Newey.
Already sold to Ferrari, bella Italia is so much more interesting then Brickhard Germany.
@@rmamon2554 Yes, I see that now. It wasn't kn own when I wrote that!
It needs upgrades though as it's well off the pace of the top 3 teams which is why there has been so much setup experimentation
But they've experimented for almost 3 years now and nothing has been found. Other teams still learn their cars without experimenting, but rather just optimize the package they have every weekend and learn from that. This experimentation doesn't really help. If anything, it's slows them down.
@@Michael.Koulibaly it's because they thought and maybe still think they can do it without copying others, which they haven't been able to
@@Luke-en2tk That's fine, but what you MIGHT gain in experientation will be outweighed by what they lose in race results. Ultimately, I think it's better that they focus on maximising each weekend and learn from the data they collect from that. Minor setup changes won't make them much quicker.
@@Michael.Koulibaly Merc aren't in F1 to fight for 6th place though, they are hoping they will come upon some magic setup which clearly isn't in the current iteration
@@Luke-en2tk Exactly. That's why they should forget hoping for magic bullets and instead focus on simply maximising every week through what they do know, not what they're hoping to find. It's obvious that the car just isn't good. Each time they've tried something different, it's usually revealed to them what doesn't work, instead of revealing what will work going forward because the experimentation results in them falling backwards in races usually.
I still can't comprehend how Lewis got P2 in the dry sprint 🤷 that car was 1.2s off in sprint to Max's Red bull and 1.6s off in GP
But still somehow he managed P2 possibly thanks to clear air but still super impressive and probably the best result for Mercedes for this season
Alonso train definitely helped
Alonso held the field up
Alonso literally held up everyone for 3/4 of the race lol. Lewis was getting caught over a second a lap once checo cleared him and Ferrari. He got LUCKY to be there in second.
Only because it was raining during the sprint quli so performance doesn't matter as much so during the sprint and race because the car was so bad compared to the cars around him
@@Junaidkhan-ib3eb yeah it did help but aston martin was faster than mercedes alonso should've overtaken lewis but lewis did a great job
"Sto pexperimenting" is the worst phrase I ever read. What is F1 without experiments?
Horner said "focus on the team except unavailable drivers"
If experimenting means set up changes, that’s impossible to ask. Bc if they do that then they are concretely midfield anyway. It’s a former champion team trying to unlock something. How do you think their drivers fair who likely are right there pushing the team bc of course they are they would never accept stagnation or decline. This is why drivers of this talent get stir crazy and tend to overdrive with a less than mustard car eg see Leclerc
Biggest Mercedes problem is the no longer have Nikki Lauda, the decline hit after he passed.
The decline hit that year because Redbull used their infinite money to buy the mercedes engineers... 😂
Correct!!!
@@1993j Before the budget cap Mercedes were spending 4x what the other teams were.
@@EddieTheH 4x what Haas were... Before the budget cap Mercedes were spending $484M, Ferrari $463M and Redbull $445M... And that showed in the results on the grid.
I am sure a geriatric old man was responsible for all the performance of their cars. wtf.
Mercedes needs to get their act together. And for them to do that they’ll HAVE to experiment. You can not change for the better without trying out stuff.
One observation is how different tyre wear is this year in clean air vs dirty air.
They're too busy making yt shorts for George Russell
At the current position they're in, they should try lots of things... So I disagree. They can't seem to figure out what is wrong, so they have to try different things, eventually it will set them on the right path.
Can we reduce wheel size in the rear or the front to create the down force on the front wing to push the air across to the back wing
Is this the race announcer?
Also one problem is the money before i think the 150$ million regulaiton Mercedes used 480million
Mercedes should go back to the zeropod concept
The biggest problem of Mercedes will be gone next year. The 2nd biggest will still remain, but that's also just a question of time, or FIA stepping in to chase him back to Vienna.
Unpopular opinion but the zero pod car was NOT the problem, it was the floor and their ride height woes which for a ground effect car is fatal for generating the required suction. Irony too that teams are converging closer and closer to a zero pod-lite concept. The whole we got fooled by Brazil 22 is just justification for further experimentation. The updated 23 car also seemed to suit Lewis a lot more as well, but now both him and George are no where. How the mighty have fallen but this is normal to anyone that's watched F1 long enough.
"Simple as that" by the guy who DNFs every race what Carlos wins💀💀💀
Maybe it's worth experimenting to focus on R&D that could be put towards next years car, given the championship's already gone?
"Experimenting" is the only excuse They can use after 3 years of no design congruence.
I don't think "Allison doesn't know $hit about how to make a downforce car work" is going to go over very well.
A downforce car?
But they definitely experimented. There’s no way lewis is quick on Saturday and a snail on Sunday.
But i don’t get it. Why change something when you just got 2nd place?
Ground effect car he must mean
No. In my opinion experimenting can lead to great success. Yet with the budget cap you have to do it in the simulator, which doesn’t work. What Mercedes should do is fix their simulations.
Nah, I love their experimental phase. It's going great for RB, McLaren and Ferrari
And it keeps getting worse, at this point Mercedes might as well be a back marker team
Adrian Newey is leaving RedBull officially announced today. Not sure where he would looked to go since he's contracted till 2025.
Most likely he would Aston Martin or Ferrari or retire as he has stated this at Japan GP.
They’re trying to speedrun it but they keep failing and making their situation worse. They just need to accept that they’re a midfield team and work on building up again. Slowly
It is the squad of apprentices in the factory and behind the pit wall.
That Toto can't admit he is in denial about.
I thought this year was supposed to be ‘back to basics’?
I think there needs to be a degree of acceptance that they’re not a number one team anymore.
No one was saying that about McLaren a year or two ago. Idk why there’s an expectation that they should be leading the field after the budget cap regs.
That intro sounded genuine
But the front wing is revelushoenary, they will win ez, you said
If you are fully aware of the impossibility to challenge for championship then why not keep on exploring those unknowns. there's nothing to lose by tinkering and experimenting when you are already only fighting midfields.
Mercedes saving all that aero time for 2026 by scoring minimum points. Look at the brightside
Mercedes need to LISTEN TO THEIR DRIVERS
They did they listen to Hamilton and you see the results this year. The W15 is even worse than the W13 and W14, they need to get rid of the overrated driver…
@@Fake67257 be happy he is going to ferrari, then get your fucked up mercedes improve after his exit, unless sainz comes(performance wont improve still but the positions will maintain)
@@Fake67257then it's verstappen fault if rb struggled to have a competitive car for 5 years then ?
Mercedes are trying to compensate for having the 3rd most powerful engine on the grid, the only engine with less power is the Renault. Which is quite remarkable considering they had a huge engine advantage when these engine regulations started.
There is malayalam saying, for a master even a tiny grass can use as weapon, so even a bloody car in wright hand can does the magic, eg max doing the best, but same car with sergio is int great😢
"My team doesn't make mistakes "
Driver backing their team, shocking. Funnily enough if he complained at that point people would then have said he whines
@@sgript my comment simply highlights the arrogance of that team coming into the new regs.
@@sgript driver was wrong, no?
Team doesn't make mistakes, it's the component between steering wheel and engine that is defective. See being 18 in quali when the other Merc took fight to Ferraris at the front...
@@KuK137 Mercedes stuffed up these regs 3 years in a row, that is not debatable
😂😂😂 Hamilton always says it's the set up only for Russell to say the set up was the same. Stop inventing
no amount of downforce qill keep george off the barriers in the last few laps of a hard fought race 😂
From 2022-2023 what mercedes did for all season was just fixing their problems then mid season decided to follow the mainstream just for next season to go back with experiment concept and then back again follows the mainstraim while the other teams have fully committed with the mainstream, i mean that just purely incompetence wishy washy from them being too stubborn for their own good using experiment concept to be different now when they fully committed to follow the mainstream, the top team the center of the regulation adrian newey is reaping 2 years of their experiment that they abandoned......... Truly ironic.
we keep going back to the time lewis told the boffs at mercedes that they needed..... and then he gave them a list. they in turn told lewis he didnt know what he was talking about and should stick to driving and let the designers (et al) do the job they are paid for.
one has to wonder had they listened to lewis in the first place, would they now have a car that could win the odd race? Ferrari won 4 races in 22 (George Russell won in brazil after MV tried his best to take lewis out of the race!
had they listened to the feedback, this years car (the W15) would have likely BEEN this years car, instead of the 2023 car they have right now! this is the same team that cost lewis hamilton a win at monaco because they would rather believe a fuggin computer than their actual drivers. and to be quite frank, im totally on board with lewis moving to ferrari, i just wish he'd done it earlier!
Mercedes have lacked downforce ever since these 2022 regs began, and i dont see them gaining significant amount of downforce for the rest of this regulation cycle
Mercedes biggest problem is Mercedes. 😂
didn't Conor Moore do a skit on this very subject?
It's best to keep experimenting
"huhh ehhh our Car is very slow. The Ferraris are very fast man...I gave it everything"
- Ser Lewis (2014-2021)
Anan thu the biggest crylonso fangirl back crying 😂😂😂😂😂😂
How was it seeing Lewis slap your finished FRAUD 😂😂😂😂😂FOR THE LAST DECADEE😂😂😂
@@AZBCDEE carmilton could not win a title with the best car on the grid for 3 YEARS crazy.
@@jaycool5155 what period you referring to? Sounds like someone who know nothing about F1. Stick to your football noob
@@jaycool5155pretty sure he didn't have the best car the past 3 years. Maybe the 2021 for the second half of the season.
This year's car was developed from a list of complaints Hamilton had from the 22 and 23 cars... And it's worse than both.
You can see why they're happy to let him go.
W13 vs W14 vs W15
I’ve been saying this for the past 3 years, they need a more powerful engine
They got SO used to just making 2 concept cars...
I don’t buy the whole set up experimenting is the reason for their car being so slow. They don’t have the huge engine advantage anymore and they are exposed for that they really are
Mercedes needs a piloto that can really develop a car, work with the engineers and tell them all this indormation
China was no experiment. Lewis bottled the hairpin when he was .5 seconds up on the cutoff in Q1.
What aload of crap. If people believe that Lewis decided to go setup hunting in 2022 after Abu Dhabi 2021 and send George out to race as a new member to the team you are kidding yourself. It was an excuse. He is nothing in an average car. He is simply showing his true talent. Or the lack of it
Mercedes is squandering perhaps the strongest driver pairing in Formula 1!! It sounds like not listening to your driver's feedback on race design is their biggest problem.
gotta love how you say that you have sources and that members of the team have admitted this but then as quickly as you can run away from sharing those sources or quotes from team members. yet again the race with their "sources? i made it up" bs
Merc said in interviews post Chinese GP that they changed the setup and it ended up being worse.
@@Ixxlostinabox never denied that
I realise this is an odd request and feel free to tell to do one but can you please stop saying "F1 2024" and just say "2024" . 2024 is a year in which mercedes are struggling again.
F1 2024 is an upcoming video game.
Mercedes has always been a team that has relied to technical advacements to dominate the championship. They simply need to be the best at the basics of F1 as RB has done
They can't, this is the real Merc. The one pre 2014.
Its not swapping between drivers...russel kicks hamilton's ass, thats the truth!
They’re too selfish to not copy the RBR design.
this year rbr copied mercedes concept of zero side pods and engine cover bulges and they made it work while Mercedes could not in the past 2 seasons. bitter irony.
2022 - Lewis did bad because of set-up experiments
2024 - Lewis does bad.....
Maybe he isn't that great when not in a dominant car. If Russell beats Lewis in 2024 that's 2:1.
another delusional Maxi fanboy with 0 knowledge of the sport.
No no, keep going, this is top entertainment!
Everyone wanted a seat at Mercedes so George Russell got it then Mercedes turned into shet sucks for George Russell right now Mercedes is a top 5 team ATM Red Bull, Ferrari, MacLaren, Aston Martin, Mercedes
Anyone else see Shane Gillis at 0:11?
LMAOO, thanks for pointing it out
Real glad Russel is out performing princess Lulu
Like last season 😂?
i see the bots are going crazy here
Why, experimenting didn't harm Williams.
Oh, wait, hang on, come to think of it.....
Locked out 😂
you have to realise that Mercedes doesnt know where to stop😂
Lewis thought he could develope the car but it's backfired very badly
And now he's running away haha
To be fair he's developed the car a lot over the years. He's admitted it, the team have admitted it.. and it has paid off for them in the latter parts of the year but I think it's just time to stop... Accept you'll be the best of the rest and put this season to bed.
He definitely helped with the 22-23 car. In 22, he used the 1st version of W13, while George used the newer version of W13. This gives the team more data despite having him going slower than his own teammate. In 23, He helped the team tuning to get the right setup with Russell. Not sure whether that worked or not, but merc got 2nd in constructor so not bad.
Shut up
Any complaining and Toto will drop his version of "Enough means enough"
😂. Only one experimenting is hamilton with his excuses.
The british media is always acting like Mercedes has a pace difference like Lola-MasterCard to Williams in 1997 when compared to literally every other team on the grid these days. What's the reason for that? Hiding that Sir Lewis is actually not as good as people thought?
He might not be doing well this year so far, but he was fighting Checo (driving the most dominant car in f1 history) for p2 last year. And last year Mercedes were 3rd or 4th fastest, Redbull McLaren and Ferrari were ahead.
All this noise about Mercedes is a smokescreen to cover the British media’s claims that Lewis was the greatest ever driver and now he’s not. They can’t reconcile it so they start making stuff up about matters like testing and changing setups of which they have not possible idea about.
@@nigelkelley3004 lewis haters are honestly funny. I can smell the desperation 😂. But i get it there’s a lot of mental gymnastics needed to discredit someone that dragged the merc to p3 in the championship. Y’all use every single bad result to somehow claim he’s been trash his entire career. If lewis is bad what is Alonso?
What kind of person do you have to be to do everything possible to discredit a 40yo man who doesn’t know you exist? I could never lol.
Let’s see what Hamilton can do in the Ferrari with motivation and then we can talk.
@@PurpleT-Rexhe was far away from checo honestly, it was checo’s mistakes and Ferrari’s blunders that were the reason for Hamilton being in third in the championship. And the redbull isn’t the most dominant car in f1 history, those were the Mercedes where they were finishing with so many 1-2’s and a second ahead in qualifying during their engine advantage era. The f1 field is closer than it has ever been in f1 history and the big difference is max who is being the most dominant driver in f1 history. He is doing what Lewis could not when Lewis had even faster cars compared to the competition
@@ajegelin Hamilton lost the fight for p2 when he crashed in Qatar. Look up what’s the most dominant car, the rb19 won 95% or 21 of 22 races it participated in. The difference between Lewis and Verstappen is that Lewis actually had good teammates and rivalry, the only season that Lewis truly didn’t have competition was 2020. Besides the Red Bull has always had good aero, so in tracks where it wasn’t so engine dependent they were fastest. Max is great driver but I’d like to see how good he is against champions like Alonso, Button, and Nico Rosberg. Let’s see how he does when he doesn’t have the best car and starts driving dirty and crashing with everyone again.
They're the best of the mid field! What's to complain about? A few more years and they will be Williams.
They gave up in this season just like HAAS did some other season, so they gonna use this whole season to the craziest shit to their car in hopes of founding something new throughout the most bad set ups. It's not even that hard to figure, why all the complaining, even George, FFFFF, it's just an experimental season now. Just watch. God, damn it.
*Personal take*
Lewis needs to stop experimenting and concentrate on Ferrari 2025 😂😂
If I was a Ferrari fan with Hamilton coming in I would be worries he would be bringing what he does for Mercedes which is exactly in this video.
Let’s hope he learns to just go back to driving the car and challenging
considering he was the best non redbull driver in 2023 and beating russel in the last 2 races seems quite silly to write off a driver before the season has even finished. he is a muti wdc and would be much more useful to ferrari than almost any other driver on the grid apart from Max
well that aged very well lol
Nah they need to keep doing what they’re doing. Makes it entertaining watching Toto throw a fit over it…
Who let bro cook?
Woohoo first non bot, but seriously what the he'll is going on with all these bots in the comments
they need to stop inventing
I love when Mercedes the bad you just can’t find it more funny😂
Mercedes you have already invented so much it’s enough
"Hamilton experimenting with set-up" is an excuse for when the car is bad and he can't drive it.
They dont experiment its just lewis making excuses as usual its not a setup problem its a skill issues
So we’re forgetting last year then?
@@PurpleT-Rex Why? Is he driving last years car??? 🤔
tell me your Sir Lewis Hater without saying you’re a Sir Lewis Hater.
@@fulumukwevho4744 he's just bad cant win without the fastest car
@@fulumukwevho4744 You obviously haven't been educated correctly.
Being critical of someone is not an indication of hate.
You just don't like people thinking critically.
Change your car, you’ve get a problem change your ****** car
Next year with the troublemaker gone, Merc will get back on track …
Lewis is off to Ferrari in 2025, I really don't think he cares about this team anymore.
It's all down to Toto Wolff. Hes as dumb as Nikki Lauda was brilliant. Or, maybe Wolff has put himself in a place where he's wealthy, win or lose. And lose is all he's able to do, or cares to do.
You need to experiment when you can't beat your teammate on raw pace
The team chiefs need to "accept the car for what it is". Yes. The car is a dog.
Mclaren, Ferrari and Mercedes need to gift Adrian a huge bonus to retire. F1 will be competitive again.
let mercedes cook man..
Isn't that the whole point of F1?
Ffs they are not experimenting, that’s bullshit, it’s only Hamilton talking about that, just to have an excuse for his weak performance…, what will his excuse be when he is underperforming at Ferrari?!
K.I.S.S. if you know what it means, then you know I just summed up this short
crazy to think the w13 is the best car in the new regulation