So it would be you dating your granddaughter. Or a daughter if it's a clone, meaning she is a sister to Father, meaning he got a mother-sister. Too many hours in Crusaders King make this "Normal" for me.
@@discoted7869 Fellow CK enjoyers? What a pleasant surprise. Reminds me that I still need to reform Rome in CK2 and turn Matilda of Tuscany into the matriarch of a mega-dynasty in CK3
Imagine bringing Cito over and show him the Gorillas Who knows maybe the Insitute scientist or bringing back Vergil and have him cure Cito's family from Ghoulism, and voila, true authentic Gorillas returning to the wasteland
It would have been really funny if the institute was hyper aware of your achievements in the game… like if you came to them after doing a ton of side quests they were all walking on eggshells cause they knew you were a murderous highly skilled psychopath and the first thing that happened when they greeted you was a “we’re sorry we stole your son” party with cake
@linkholder "Ay... Yo... Shit... We uh... My bad dude. It was like... 70 years ago, it was my bosses boss that died like a decade ago that did it. I'm just gonna uh... Here's a my access card.... I'll be uh... Anywhere but here. I'll check back in like... Three weeks... If you're running the place, awesome. Good job. If not uh... I guess I'll find a new place that isn't a smoking crater. Second right down the hall to your left is where you can find your kid. PEACE!"
It saves us from blowing up stuff too. Now if we can. Convince the BOS to not be jerks and the airship will be teleporting from east coast to west in but a week. Give it a few months and we got a fleet of em. All with every faction as crewmen.
They ain't evil... who's more evil the 2 factions who's sole goal is trying to destroy the opposition... or the institute who want to make a super powerful generator so they can stop relying on the world above and break all contact with it... The only reason they target everyone after the generator is done is because they correctly assume that nobody else would leave them alone. The only crime they ever committed was dabbling in controversial robotics and cleaning up their own messes. (Which wouldn't be such a mess if the railroad wasn't freeing synths and encouraging the idea of self independence.)
They never outright say that they want any form of control over the wasteland, but they simply cannot stop themselves from compulsively sending synths to replace or just murder random people.
that's what f*ck my brain to this day. a potentially amazing faction, ruined with mediocre writing Cool Power Armor system tho, if only they didn't sound like walking lockers
@@miroerebulogically only reason I join them is because well it makes sense not to throw away the tech. I fill in the blanks post ending that my sole survivor shuts down the synth production and Srb. The srb and synth production lab can used for different areas of advancement. To destroy it all is just stupid like just so God Damn stupid I can't do it.
In typical institute fashion, Father is either A: making a simple task into a overcomplicated nightmare OR B: lying to Sole Survivor. ''We reverse engineered the recipe for nuka cola'' Man just read the ingredients from the back of the bottle no doubt, or had a courser to go get the recipe from the nearest Nuka Cola factory.
@@diveblock2058 tbf it could work in the institute. We don't know how detailed their analyzing technology is. They can create technoorganic human so having the scanners to be able to scan what is in Nukacola shouldn't be that hard to imagine. Alternatively, they could also potentially make a different recipe that just happens to taste like it. There are like 5 different tastes and anything you eat is just a combination of the 5 tastes. One day it should be possible to flavor food and drinks to taste like others allowing for healthier foods that taste good. I'd eat what is essentially a salad if it tasted like a seared steak lol.
Father: "Father/Mother, we are not evil, just practical and tragically misunderstood." Sole Survivor: "Son, is that why you are kidnapping people, replacing them with synths, and experimenting on your victims and transforming them into super mutants?" Father: "...You would not understand."
All that tech and none of them try to fix the radiation problem........ ah let's make robots go up top because its radioactive and bring the radioactive material back to our radiation free area instead of fixing the problem they just spread the butter
To be fair they improved the fev tho clearly they used the bault 81 strand due to the existence of super mitants but they made it more perfected their smarter than vault 81 mutants less musculer tho almost like studying fev and seing if can reverse it
That was one of my biggest pet peeves about the game was father promised to answer any questions you had and dispel any rumors and show that what we heard was false and what they're doing is right. But yet I was not able to question them about University point, the random Travelers I would find on the side of the road at a camp that were just murdered by synth in their sleep, the synth infiltrators attacking my settlements, the super mutants they created and released like Swan and the stuff that Virgil talked about, and so much more.
The institute could do so much good for the Commonwealth. And if I had a chance to raise my kid properly they would be doing good for the Commonwealth. -My exact reasoning before joining the institute and treating them as if they're my disobedient grandchildren who have been trying to feed each other rat poison.
It's just the classic Bethesda story telling style of is scientist must be amoral and evil even though there are a lot of ethical scientists and morality isn't linked to faith
@@arcanegamer2723 This is more of a sci-fi trope then Bethesda trope. They've had good scientists. To be Frank someone needs to be the bad guy and it's easier if that bad guy is impersonal and faceless for good portion of the game. And it's easier for logic to be evil. Plus it makes for a surprisingly good twist with Sean.
I mean the sole Survivor didn’t get shoved into a ice box for 210 years to be exact for no reason? Which means even though they saw their son die as an Old man they still somehow outlived them thanks to some kind of saving grace after being frozen stiff for so long, Lest their spouse was murdered and the son kidnapped in the process, But everyone else in vault 111 died and some became nothing more than dust laced skeletons with partially damaged clothing that survived the breakdown levels.
@@FireFox64000000 The whole story was ass. This is why New Vegas was infinitely superior, you picked your story, fo4 was this forced nonsense about finding your son which is just role reversal of fo3 which also was kinda ass.
@@Kyle496 You really have nothing of value to add to this conversation, do you? Save the exact same talking point everyone's had for years. You do know there is no such thing as an original story, correct? Seriously go look up the book the 36 dramatic situations.
Pay attention to the game world. The institute replacing people is the only reason anything was working at all. Diamond City was a trash pile before Mayor McDonough was replaced with a synth. Roger Warwick was literally getting his entire family killed through starvation cause he wasn't providing enough, but after being replaced by a synth he was providing the best tasting food for the entire commonwealth. There are many instances of this. The institute was replacing people because people weren't doing shit.
From this sole interaction, you can tell how the Institute trade carefully in dealing with the Main Character, cause they know if they mess up they all gonna explode.
Yeah, pretty sure you can also find memos where people in the institute are told to act that everything is great and make the protagonist feel really good.
A tag team with the institute and the minutemen would be the best ending ngl. Minutemen running the show on top and receiving top of the line stuff from down below. Minutemen aren't afraid of the radiation or outsiders and can be great diplomats and a reliable watchman.
Pretty sure the Minutemen would have a problem with the Institute murdering people for eugenics purposes. The Minutemen’s entire ideology is “murder is wrong”
@French-Ball Well no one actually goes against Minuteman directly so in canon i would say they are around. My belief would be that consedering DLC's are also canon Sole survivor in the end becomes an raider boss. Following that logic i believe that he/she sided with Instutude rebuilt the Minuteman but then joined raiders when everything becomed "not sensible" and i also believe the canon sole survivor is the male one due to he is an Anchorage Vet.
The story writing of FO4 was crap considering the previously established lore. It's a nice game, but I won't consider it as part of the canonical Fallout lore. To me it's the worst Fallout I have played (didn't play Tactics yet).
I kinda just wanted to take the institute and have them collaborate with the Minutemen. The institute can telephort synths and people ANYWHERE. Under new leadership, it could be an actual defense force. LITERALLY getting to places at a minutes notice.
@Richard Arriaga that was 60 years ago, and a lot of scientific creations later. The Sol survivor is the new bridge. Able to bring context, hope, and knowledge to silence the conspiracy theoriests, fear, and ignorance. Maybe set up installations run by synths to give food and medical assistance to traders along the road. Repair their reputation through working alongside the minutemen. Become the Commonwealth's guardian angel rather than its boogeyman. Lots of things can happen when an organization is under new management. People will be scared at first, distrusting, but over time and consistency, the institute would be seen in a better light. And the children, the next generation wouldn't be prejudiced towards the cool robots that kill the mirelurks, super mutants, and raiders, and patrol the towns. Saying nice words like "It's a pleasure to see you, sir." Or other things. They'd be popular with children and probably encourage them to join up with the minutemen watching them fight side by side.
@@elishafollet5347Cola is just a generic name for the type of soda that is flavored a specific way. RC Cola is also a brand too and they arent owned by Coca Cola
@@elishafollet5347 Nope, doesnt matter. Color schemes between brands are often different to stand out to their own consumers. If your consumer accidentally grabs the wrong product and likes that taste better, you've lost them basically forever. Their names arent really that close. its coca vs nuka (the cola part doesnt matter, considering thats literally what the drink is). Their color scheme being the same doesnt really matter. In fact, the biggest issue is the squiggly line. Thats not even talking about how nuka cola has been rocket shaped for quite some time now
Dude, if a random Institute guy came up to me handing me a sample of the freshly made Nuka-Cola I would gladly join. Drinking flat soda is bad enough but imagine drinking 200 year old irradiated soda that is only intact due to it being in a fragile glass bottle that highly likely has glass shards floating in it too.
@@mattg944 I mean with all the useless prewar money around, you got plenty of toilet paper lol, why do you think folks are willing to buy it off of you?
The institute is the only faction with the actual capabilities to fix the wasteland, the brotherhood doesn’t even care and the minutemen are limited to say the least
The Brotherhood is doing a lot of good, tho, by dealing with super mutants, raiders, ferals, etc. The best ending would be one in which the Minutemen and Brotherhood become buddies, but unfortunately, that's not possible.
The Brotherhood does care. The current East Coast Brotherhood under Maxson carries a mixture of Lyons ((protect the people, regardless of cost)) and West Coast Beliefs ((Preserve technology and destroy dangerous technology)). Ironically most people, even those who play the game, ignore the huge amounts of Lyons' Teachings that they do. They set up checkpoints to make the trade routes safer, made trade/protection agreements with settlements like Diamond City, openly trade non precious technology ((weapons, power, food production, etc)), go on purges of super mutants/feral ghouls, severely punish those in their ranks who try to be cunts to locals, etc etc. They just view Gen 3 Synths as the ultimate infiltrator weapon that need to be destroyed. And they're not wrong. A Gen 3 synth can be programmed with sleeper protocols that even the synth itself is unaware of, with scavenged equipment. IE Dima programs Captain Avery to destroy Far Harbor should they ever attack Acadia or the Nucleus.
@@herowither12354 Is that not what happens if you choose the Brotherhood? Minutemen are always along for the ride. I mean, I chose the clear best option with synth gorillas, but I assumed you get the Minutemen on board no matter what.
Minutemen: we'll band together like a bunch of revolutionary war reenactment fanboys/post-apocalyptic homesteaders! Brotherhood of Steel: we'll kick the crap out of everyone, execute mutants, and hoard all the technology for the "greater good"! The Railroad: free the synths! The Institute: we will literally fix the apocalypse.
The institute was the fallout equivalent of Southern slave owners Pre Civil War. Always talking about making the world a better place for every person, and nobody seems to realize that the Institute doesn't consider the wastelanders or the Synths people.
If not for the whole replace people with synths thing, the institute would've been the best choice of faction in Fallout 4. They're the only ones that actually wanna restore the world and have the ability to do it, unlike everybody else who just wanna make it slightly less dreadful.
Kinda hard to find a neutral ground between what the Railroad sees as slavery and what the Brotherhood sees as an existential threat. What are ya gonna do, sentence the Synths to lifetime imprisonment and labor?
@ImpendingGhost Gen 3s are valued by the Institute for infiltration, which they view as necessary since they view all other organized societies as potential threats to be infiltrated and controlled or utterly destroyed if not able to be manipulated. Gen 3s also are fully sustainable as opposed to Gen 1s and Gen 2s as Synth Components are made of plastic and Gen 3 Synths are made from DNA; plastics can be created using plant matter and of course growing a human doesn't take scavenging any outside precious metals. Phase 3 of the Institute's plan is total sustainability and self-sufficiency.
Shaun: “Dad, I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying. We are literally going to pull a Skynet and eradicate all human life above ground.” Nate: “Mm. monke”
That’s like one of the biggest issues with fallout 4’s writing. They had to really force making the institute seem evil with really cliche and hamfisted shit like a nonsensical slavery allegory or kidnappings that never really get addressed. It’s like they wanted to make a dilemma but made the institute too valid and had to inject the “puppy kicker” cliche.
@It’s Serrifin the railroad and the slavery allegory was not introduced in fo3, unless I missed something? And main base or whatever is more gameplay and aesthetic based, in terms of the world the institute is just the right choice to make. They are one of the best bets for eventually restoring mankind and earth or at the very least carrying on the human race in a manner with actual advancements post bombs.
Gen Asagiri "You sided with the institute... because they can make ice cold non-radioactive carbonated cola?" Lone Survivor: "Basically." Gen: "Respect."
Tbh when I saw how clean and healthy everyone was it just made me angry that they were not only not helping anyone on the surface, but also treating them like test subjects.
I mean to be fair look at the Wasteland I don't think a single one of these bastards deserve it there are literally only two cities in the entire game everything else is just hostile territory
@@Tyson-i7risn't the institute the ones who are responsible for stopping any form of large scale recovery by kidnapping and experimenting on people and massacring entire settlements over random tech?
Institute: Has clean facilities ✔️ Has air conditioning ✔️ Has health care and medical tech✔️ Has an army✔️ Has the ability to clone and grow food✔️ Has clean water✔️ Has an actual plan for the future✔️ Has plumbing ✔️ The choice is clear boys, the institute is the best hope for humanity.
The institute also acts like they want nothing to do with any of the dirty wasteland people but constantly messes with them and spy’s on them for the sake of like trolling or something which is kind of funny when you think about it
The Institute from FO4 and Mr. House from FNV seem like the most logical and best choices for the progression and direction of humanity in the wasteland but they’re weirdly so evil. If the Brotherhood, Institute, House and the robots at Big MT (or at least their technology since they’re a little crazy) got together they could easily develop technology and medicine to fix the wasteland and restart a real society. Give that union 200 years and it would be like the bombs never fell.
It's because cruel methods are usually necessary for the greater good. If you want peace, prepare for war. The Institute creates synths for very practical purposes (look at nearly any country in the world, all of them use spies, espionage, and assassination of political enemies if given the chance, and I do mean nearly ANY country), and the railroad literally reprograms them into rogue AI that believes they are people (which, given their human or above-human intellect, makes them people, I agree). The problem there is that you're turning something that previously had no self of self or identity and giving it one; which, ultimately, is just as cruel as taking it away in the case of rogue synths that are recaptured. In the pursuit of freeing these so-called 'slaves,' you create new, thinking beings capable of suffering whereas before their ability to really 'feel' that suffering was limited at best, given they knew their purpose and understood it, and nearly always had no problem with it until the railroad got their hands on them.
Honestly my first playthrough was almost an institute playthrough. I went against them at every turn and they still made me their leader. The only reason I didn't end with them was because I refused to kill the railroad.
One thing I like about Fallout 4 is the moral ambiguity of the joinable factions. Nobody is free of sin, so it's up to the player to choose what they believe is the option best for humanity.
How to turn the sole survivor to your side: Cold Nuka cola and synth gorillaz
As in the band? Sign me up!
@@swedishcow27 Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo Oooo.
@@swedishcow27 Thanks for clarifying lol
And toilet paper
When your Int 1 character meets his Int 10 son.
POV: you realize this man looks just like the mailman.
@@EnclavegovtofficialUSA you're no son of mine
I need to ask, what game are you using those numbers from.
Cause for some games, 10 int is average.
Remember that average is fairly dumb.
@@redstonewarrior0152 fallout stats ofc. pretty sure 10 is about as high as it goes.
Son you’re telling me that all the synths came from you. Welp I would like you to meet your new mother Curie
So it would be you dating your granddaughter. Or a daughter if it's a clone, meaning she is a sister to Father, meaning he got a mother-sister.
Too many hours in Crusaders King make this "Normal" for me.
@@discoted7869 Fellow CK enjoyers? What a pleasant surprise. Reminds me that I still need to reform Rome in CK2 and turn Matilda of Tuscany into the matriarch of a mega-dynasty in CK3
@@discoted7869 Gotta keep it in the family 🥵❤️☀️💔
@@Clown_the_Clown oh n noooo
@@discoted7869Curie isn't a synth she's a Mr Handy bot and she's not even from the institute she's from vault 81
Same reaction i had First time going in the institute "AyO YALL GOT GORILLA'S!?!?!"
I thought they were real but that faded fast when I learned they’re synth gorillas 💀
my first reaction to wanting to join was the fact they made super mutants
and the gorillas
Imagine bringing Cito over and show him the Gorillas
Who knows maybe the Insitute scientist or bringing back Vergil and have him cure Cito's family from Ghoulism, and voila, true authentic Gorillas returning to the wasteland
A week after father saying he reverse engineered the formula, he found a cease and desist holotape on his desk marked "Nuka Cola Corp"
Yippeeee yaaaaay
There won't be an escape from a lawsuit, for todaaay...
Lmao these comments are gold xD
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu
i got cuffs that jingle jangle jingle
as i cease right merrily along
jingle jangle
Your Nuka Corp Representative: Sierra Petrovita - Newly Appointed CEO
“Over Bradberton’s dead… head”
“I am- your son” me: “Nuh uh, you ain’t calling me daddy old man” (Blows his head off)
In my first play through I chose the institute because they have clean towels.
And showers to go with them.
Fluffy towels (and working plumbing) are definitely alluring reasons to join.
The institute realized what went wrong with the world and now seek to bring Harambe back to life.
Truly the heroes the Wasteland needs
Dicks out
Holy shit, you’re right! I’ve been looking at the institute AALLLL WRONG!
I need a mod now that plasters harambe memes all over that area of the institute like that always sunny meme hahahaha
"How dare you side with the institute. What could've brought you to do such a thing"
"They can reverse engineer fucking nuka cola"
Bro their science is better than the enclave and they dont want everybody dead
And they got gorillas
Bro I have the original recipe right here
The Commonwealth: wait really? I didnt they Said this to us instead of the synths? We would have sign up at the same time
@@MarcosAlexandre-no3qx given human pride, it's not completely irrational.
It would have been really funny if the institute was hyper aware of your achievements in the game… like if you came to them after doing a ton of side quests they were all walking on eggshells cause they knew you were a murderous highly skilled psychopath and the first thing that happened when they greeted you was a “we’re sorry we stole your son” party with cake
@linkholder "Ay... Yo... Shit... We uh... My bad dude. It was like... 70 years ago, it was my bosses boss that died like a decade ago that did it. I'm just gonna uh... Here's a my access card.... I'll be uh... Anywhere but here. I'll check back in like... Three weeks... If you're running the place, awesome. Good job. If not uh... I guess I'll find a new place that isn't a smoking crater. Second right down the hall to your left is where you can find your kid. PEACE!"
I... I avoided spoilers for 7 years... 7 whole years just to get to this moment...
@@lilnigga-qh7kdu had 7 years and still didn't play the game, honestly bro, thats on you at that point man, sorry.
No cap the fact the institute had gorillas was a huge decision on who pick in my first FO4 play through
Working toilets and clean beds, the minute men can stuff it
Right place was clean AF I definitely joined my son, her to be with family and have the coolest pad
But no power armor
It's a shame they cut the institutes power armor, it looks awesome @@Lets_Go_UW
I wish there was a route where you could just be like “stop being evil, idiots” to the institute.
It saves us from blowing up stuff too. Now if we can. Convince the BOS to not be jerks and the airship will be teleporting from east coast to west in but a week. Give it a few months and we got a fleet of em. All with every faction as crewmen.
They ain't evil... who's more evil the 2 factions who's sole goal is trying to destroy the opposition... or the institute who want to make a super powerful generator so they can stop relying on the world above and break all contact with it...
The only reason they target everyone after the generator is done is because they correctly assume that nobody else would leave them alone.
The only crime they ever committed was dabbling in controversial robotics and cleaning up their own messes. (Which wouldn't be such a mess if the railroad wasn't freeing synths and encouraging the idea of self independence.)
@@totower9597 the institute, because they're also trying to kill those groups so your whole argument pretty much means they're even worse.
@@totower9597 they also keep breeding super mutants and destroyed the commonwealth government basically just for kicks.
My ass with minutemen armor stareing at him with a minigun to his head 👁️👄👁️🔫
Institute really be like "We want nothing to do with your insignificant lives, however we are going to rule them"
They never outright say that they want any form of control over the wasteland, but they simply cannot stop themselves from compulsively sending synths to replace or just murder random people.
that's what f*ck my brain to this day.
a potentially amazing faction, ruined with mediocre writing
Cool Power Armor system tho, if only they didn't sound like walking lockers
@@miroerebulogically only reason I join them is because well it makes sense not to throw away the tech. I fill in the blanks post ending that my sole survivor shuts down the synth production and Srb. The srb and synth production lab can used for different areas of advancement. To destroy it all is just stupid like just so God Damn stupid I can't do it.
@@Daud-ix4tmyeah I think most people would probably do something similar as acting director given the sole survivor’s experiences.
I turned on the institute after they wanted me to betray the minuteman
"We got Dinosaur nuggets."
Sole Survivor: "I'm in"
If you pay for an unopened nuka-cola bottle, you’re paying for money since the cap comes with
Five minutes later: Sir, scientists are rebelling! What should we do?
RELEASE THE GORILLAS!
wdym the monkeys stay in the cage the institute are racist
More like, sorry sir, you are no longer needed. We have your Synth replacement here.
In typical institute fashion, Father is either
A: making a simple task into a overcomplicated nightmare
OR
B: lying to Sole Survivor.
''We reverse engineered the recipe for nuka cola''
Man just read the ingredients from the back of the bottle no doubt, or had a courser to go get the recipe from the nearest Nuka Cola factory.
That doesn't even work in real life yet alone hyper futuristic amarica
And there is actually confirmed in cannon secret ingredients that you can find
@@diveblock2058 tbf it could work in the institute. We don't know how detailed their analyzing technology is.
They can create technoorganic human so having the scanners to be able to scan what is in Nukacola shouldn't be that hard to imagine.
Alternatively, they could also potentially make a different recipe that just happens to taste like it.
There are like 5 different tastes and anything you eat is just a combination of the 5 tastes.
One day it should be possible to flavor food and drinks to taste like others allowing for healthier foods that taste good.
I'd eat what is essentially a salad if it tasted like a seared steak lol.
@@Seth-Halo oh no we call already make healthy food taste like better food artificially....its just cheaper to not do that
@@diveblock2058 Ya but one day it should be more affordable and more practical.
Father: "Father/Mother, we are not evil, just practical and tragically misunderstood."
Sole Survivor: "Son, is that why you are kidnapping people, replacing them with synths, and experimenting on your victims and transforming them into super mutants?"
Father: "...You would not understand."
Ugh, Dad/Mom you never let me do ANYTHING! Get off my case.
All that tech and none of them try to fix the radiation problem........ ah let's make robots go up top because its radioactive and bring the radioactive material back to our radiation free area instead of fixing the problem they just spread the butter
“You see the outer world is tainted and we need to remake humanity anew”
So…eugenics. Your entire philosophy is eugenics.
To be fair they improved the fev tho clearly they used the bault 81 strand due to the existence of super mitants but they made it more perfected their smarter than vault 81 mutants less musculer tho almost like studying fev and seing if can reverse it
That was one of my biggest pet peeves about the game was father promised to answer any questions you had and dispel any rumors and show that what we heard was false and what they're doing is right. But yet I was not able to question them about University point, the random Travelers I would find on the side of the road at a camp that were just murdered by synth in their sleep, the synth infiltrators attacking my settlements, the super mutants they created and released like Swan and the stuff that Virgil talked about, and so much more.
The institute could do so much good for the Commonwealth. And if I had a chance to raise my kid properly they would be doing good for the Commonwealth.
-My exact reasoning before joining the institute and treating them as if they're my disobedient grandchildren who have been trying to feed each other rat poison.
It's just the classic Bethesda story telling style of is scientist must be amoral and evil even though there are a lot of ethical scientists and morality isn't linked to faith
@@arcanegamer2723
This is more of a sci-fi trope then Bethesda trope. They've had good scientists. To be Frank someone needs to be the bad guy and it's easier if that bad guy is impersonal and faceless for good portion of the game. And it's easier for logic to be evil. Plus it makes for a surprisingly good twist with Sean.
I mean the sole Survivor didn’t get shoved into a ice box for 210 years to be exact for no reason? Which means even though they saw their son die as an Old man they still somehow outlived them thanks to some kind of saving grace after being frozen stiff for so long, Lest their spouse was murdered and the son kidnapped in the process, But everyone else in vault 111 died and some became nothing more than dust laced skeletons with partially damaged clothing that survived the breakdown levels.
@@FireFox64000000
The whole story was ass. This is why New Vegas was infinitely superior, you picked your story, fo4 was this forced nonsense about finding your son which is just role reversal of fo3 which also was kinda ass.
@@Kyle496
You really have nothing of value to add to this conversation, do you?
Save the exact same talking point everyone's had for years. You do know there is no such thing as an original story, correct? Seriously go look up the book the 36 dramatic situations.
Son no evil plans or you're grounded
@JacoDeltaco they do it in all the wrong ways.
this man is too funny to be this underrated 💀
B -b but sir
We got settlement problems... I'll mark it in your map
"Hey, just stop, y'know, killing people and replacing them with robot duplicates and we're golden!"
If only that line could've been said, I'd be fine with not nuking them out of existence. Maybe.
As my character goes through the game, killing people for bottle caps and pipe weapons.
The institute waa the only chance the commonwealth ever had.
Replacing people is fun
@louisnall3102 "fun"
Pay attention to the game world. The institute replacing people is the only reason anything was working at all. Diamond City was a trash pile before Mayor McDonough was replaced with a synth. Roger Warwick was literally getting his entire family killed through starvation cause he wasn't providing enough, but after being replaced by a synth he was providing the best tasting food for the entire commonwealth. There are many instances of this. The institute was replacing people because people weren't doing shit.
From this sole interaction, you can tell how the Institute trade carefully in dealing with the Main Character, cause they know if they mess up they all gonna explode.
Yeah, pretty sure you can also find memos where people in the institute are told to act that everything is great and make the protagonist feel really good.
remember: this is the same guy that did 3 separate murderous gangs' dirty work just so they'd call him "da boss"
A tag team with the institute and the minutemen would be the best ending ngl. Minutemen running the show on top and receiving top of the line stuff from down below. Minutemen aren't afraid of the radiation or outsiders and can be great diplomats and a reliable watchman.
Pretty sure the Minutemen would have a problem with the Institute murdering people for eugenics purposes. The Minutemen’s entire ideology is “murder is wrong”
Thats what i always go for. Leader of minuteman armed with p.armors and leader of Institute but tamer.
@French-Ball Well no one actually goes against Minuteman directly so in canon i would say they are around. My belief would be that consedering DLC's are also canon Sole survivor in the end becomes an raider boss. Following that logic i believe that he/she sided with Instutude rebuilt the Minuteman but then joined raiders when everything becomed "not sensible" and i also believe the canon sole survivor is the male one due to he is an Anchorage Vet.
The story writing of FO4 was crap considering the previously established lore. It's a nice game, but I won't consider it as part of the canonical Fallout lore. To me it's the worst Fallout I have played (didn't play Tactics yet).
They had me at Nuka-Cola
Man i really enjoy these fallout skits and hope to keep seeing them. Good work.
"I worked hard on this monologue. You will lis.... STOP LOOKING AT THE GORILLAS"
I kinda just wanted to take the institute and have them collaborate with the Minutemen. The institute can telephort synths and people ANYWHERE. Under new leadership, it could be an actual defense force. LITERALLY getting to places at a minutes notice.
They burned that bridge with the Broken Mask incident.
@Richard Arriaga that was 60 years ago, and a lot of scientific creations later. The Sol survivor is the new bridge. Able to bring context, hope, and knowledge to silence the conspiracy theoriests, fear, and ignorance. Maybe set up installations run by synths to give food and medical assistance to traders along the road. Repair their reputation through working alongside the minutemen. Become the Commonwealth's guardian angel rather than its boogeyman. Lots of things can happen when an organization is under new management.
People will be scared at first, distrusting, but over time and consistency, the institute would be seen in a better light. And the children, the next generation wouldn't be prejudiced towards the cool robots that kill the mirelurks, super mutants, and raiders, and patrol the towns. Saying nice words like "It's a pleasure to see you, sir." Or other things. They'd be popular with children and probably encourage them to join up with the minutemen watching them fight side by side.
This has been my head canon forever. Because of the radio broadcast you can change it up to making them not sound evil and be hopeful for the future
@@richardarriaga6271 not nessceraly given prestons reaction in finding out the sole survivor is the new director
@@richardarriaga6271 oh boo hoo a couple people died so what I killed 37 people on my way to the settlement
Honestly Bethesda should start their own cola and call it nukacola
They'd probably get sued into the ground by coke cola
@@elishafollet5347 how? Coke doesn't own cola.
@@elishafollet5347Cola is just a generic name for the type of soda that is flavored a specific way. RC Cola is also a brand too and they arent owned by Coca Cola
@@Frostaltered I figured they'd probably get sued because of how similar the color schemes and names are tho I admit I completely forgot rc cola lol
@@elishafollet5347 Nope, doesnt matter. Color schemes between brands are often different to stand out to their own consumers. If your consumer accidentally grabs the wrong product and likes that taste better, you've lost them basically forever.
Their names arent really that close. its coca vs nuka (the cola part doesnt matter, considering thats literally what the drink is). Their color scheme being the same doesnt really matter.
In fact, the biggest issue is the squiggly line.
Thats not even talking about how nuka cola has been rocket shaped for quite some time now
The Institute has clean sheets, towels, and pillows. That's all they needed for me.
Honestly bruh if they gave a me an infinite supply of nuka cola i woulda murked everyone
Dude, if a random Institute guy came up to me handing me a sample of the freshly made Nuka-Cola I would gladly join. Drinking flat soda is bad enough but imagine drinking 200 year old irradiated soda that is only intact due to it being in a fragile glass bottle that highly likely has glass shards floating in it too.
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The institute has working toilets and showers. End of discussion.
TOILET PAPER
It's not that hard to build a toilet and shower, anyone with resources could make that happen honestly
@@nikoincroatia But then it’d be slightly irradiated piss water. You want to take a shower in that?
@@mattg944 I mean with all the useless prewar money around, you got plenty of toilet paper lol, why do you think folks are willing to buy it off of you?
@@RaxusXeronos true 😂 now I know why it's worth so much. Always confused me lol
Who needs Nuka Cola when Sunset Sarsaparilla exists?
My dude, you would kickass at voice acting. 10/10 💯💯
The institute is the only faction with the actual capabilities to fix the wasteland, the brotherhood doesn’t even care and the minutemen are limited to say the least
They'd be even more limited if Preston Garvey wasn't unkillable.
@@imperialdebauchery5988 Have you played fallout? Have you seen what the brotherhood can fucking do?
The Brotherhood is doing a lot of good, tho, by dealing with super mutants, raiders, ferals, etc. The best ending would be one in which the Minutemen and Brotherhood become buddies, but unfortunately, that's not possible.
The Brotherhood does care. The current East Coast Brotherhood under Maxson carries a mixture of Lyons ((protect the people, regardless of cost)) and West Coast Beliefs ((Preserve technology and destroy dangerous technology)). Ironically most people, even those who play the game, ignore the huge amounts of Lyons' Teachings that they do. They set up checkpoints to make the trade routes safer, made trade/protection agreements with settlements like Diamond City, openly trade non precious technology ((weapons, power, food production, etc)), go on purges of super mutants/feral ghouls, severely punish those in their ranks who try to be cunts to locals, etc etc.
They just view Gen 3 Synths as the ultimate infiltrator weapon that need to be destroyed. And they're not wrong. A Gen 3 synth can be programmed with sleeper protocols that even the synth itself is unaware of, with scavenged equipment. IE Dima programs Captain Avery to destroy Far Harbor should they ever attack Acadia or the Nucleus.
@@herowither12354 Is that not what happens if you choose the Brotherhood? Minutemen are always along for the ride. I mean, I chose the clear best option with synth gorillas, but I assumed you get the Minutemen on board no matter what.
This guy never fails to make my day better! Keep the fallout content up!!!
I've been doing an institute playthrough, and honestly, rationalizing it, they got showers. Got my vote
"We will terraform this earth" youre gonna turn earth...into...earth??
The Brotherhood is just like: Free Power Armor here! Come get your Power Armor! Just join the Brotherhood and it’s all yours!
You dont even need that, I literally stumble upon several in a single playthrough
@@TheStarwarsiani totally dont have like 40 suits without power cores at red rocket
@@TheStarwarsianu can get t-60 ahead of time with BOS tho
you just gotta be racist
I’m just proud of my son running the Institute Meanwhile, I have a 1 in intelligence and like smacking things with a hammer.
30 minutes later: *gorillas are now a part of your settlement*
Bro, keep makin awesome content, I love it😂🔥
Minutemen: we'll band together like a bunch of revolutionary war reenactment fanboys/post-apocalyptic homesteaders!
Brotherhood of Steel: we'll kick the crap out of everyone, execute mutants, and hoard all the technology for the "greater good"!
The Railroad: free the synths!
The Institute: we will literally fix the apocalypse.
Saves institute to get cool tech: 🤓
Saves institute to get to keep listening to classical radio: 🗿
ngl that institute paint job for the power armor was my deal breaker
It was my deal maker. I don’t know why people think it’s ugly; it rocks!
The institute was the fallout equivalent of Southern slave owners Pre Civil War. Always talking about making the world a better place for every person, and nobody seems to realize that the Institute doesn't consider the wastelanders or the Synths people.
literally my reaction to seeing the gorillas
If not for the whole replace people with synths thing, the institute would've been the best choice of faction in Fallout 4. They're the only ones that actually wanna restore the world and have the ability to do it, unlike everybody else who just wanna make it slightly less dreadful.
But like Lore Wise, the Institute can be a force of Good if we could have just find a neutral ground with the Railroad and the Brotherwood 😭
Kinda hard to find a neutral ground between what the Railroad sees as slavery and what the Brotherhood sees as an existential threat. What are ya gonna do, sentence the Synths to lifetime imprisonment and labor?
@ImpendingGhost Gen 3s are valued by the Institute for infiltration, which they view as necessary since they view all other organized societies as potential threats to be infiltrated and controlled or utterly destroyed if not able to be manipulated. Gen 3s also are fully sustainable as opposed to Gen 1s and Gen 2s as Synth Components are made of plastic and Gen 3 Synths are made from DNA; plastics can be created using plant matter and of course growing a human doesn't take scavenging any outside precious metals. Phase 3 of the Institute's plan is total sustainability and self-sufficiency.
The Institute left the cocaine in the nuka cola, it's the right choice
Institute gonna f around and find out when they hit New Vegas
Shaun: “Dad, I’m not sure you understand what I’m saying. We are literally going to pull a Skynet and eradicate all human life above ground.”
Nate: “Mm. monke”
Mmmm monke and sodies
You had me at fresh NukaCola
I been watching through ur channel ur skits hit
If they don't say it so threatenly they are pretty much the good guys
That’s like one of the biggest issues with fallout 4’s writing. They had to really force making the institute seem evil with really cliche and hamfisted shit like a nonsensical slavery allegory or kidnappings that never really get addressed. It’s like they wanted to make a dilemma but made the institute too valid and had to inject the “puppy kicker” cliche.
@It’s Serrifin the railroad and the slavery allegory was not introduced in fo3, unless I missed something? And main base or whatever is more gameplay and aesthetic based, in terms of the world the institute is just the right choice to make. They are one of the best bets for eventually restoring mankind and earth or at the very least carrying on the human race in a manner with actual advancements post bombs.
@@gummyboots The Replicated Man quest is literally all about tracking down an escaped synth…. So the slavery allegory WAS introduced in Fallout 3.
If he really tried he can probably make a good Arbiter impression
were it so easy
Gen Asagiri "You sided with the institute... because they can make ice cold non-radioactive carbonated cola?"
Lone Survivor: "Basically."
Gen: "Respect."
Ngl they seem more like a good influence then a bad one-
Imagine if the enclave found the institute before the brotherhood.
Shaun hasn't yet realized, the commonwealth isn't his to conquer😈
Tbh when I saw how clean and healthy everyone was it just made me angry that they were not only not helping anyone on the surface, but also treating them like test subjects.
We can't all win.
I mean to be fair look at the Wasteland I don't think a single one of these bastards deserve it there are literally only two cities in the entire game everything else is just hostile territory
Laughs in Big MT
@@Tyson-i7risn't the institute the ones who are responsible for stopping any form of large scale recovery by kidnapping and experimenting on people and massacring entire settlements over random tech?
@@Tyson-i7rand releasing deadly experiments like the super mutants out into the wild as well
Ironically, Nuka-Cola's radioactivity is implied to be added during production.
I feel like I’m going to be disappointed in the fallout tv show because I’m used to Naiwal being so good and hitting it spot on 🤣🔥
Fresh toilet paper, clean hot water and sanitary toilets got me
I love this you just keep doing what you’re doing
Institute:
Has clean facilities ✔️
Has air conditioning ✔️
Has health care and medical tech✔️
Has an army✔️
Has the ability to clone and grow food✔️
Has clean water✔️
Has an actual plan for the future✔️
Has plumbing ✔️
The choice is clear boys, the institute is the best hope for humanity.
You forget they have gorillas which is arguably the most important part
But funny zeppelin looks cool 😢
Mankind Redefined!
The institute also acts like they want nothing to do with any of the dirty wasteland people but constantly messes with them and spy’s on them for the sake of like trolling or something which is kind of funny when you think about it
The Institute from FO4 and Mr. House from FNV seem like the most logical and best choices for the progression and direction of humanity in the wasteland but they’re weirdly so evil. If the Brotherhood, Institute, House and the robots at Big MT (or at least their technology since they’re a little crazy) got together they could easily develop technology and medicine to fix the wasteland and restart a real society. Give that union 200 years and it would be like the bombs never fell.
It's because cruel methods are usually necessary for the greater good. If you want peace, prepare for war. The Institute creates synths for very practical purposes (look at nearly any country in the world, all of them use spies, espionage, and assassination of political enemies if given the chance, and I do mean nearly ANY country), and the railroad literally reprograms them into rogue AI that believes they are people (which, given their human or above-human intellect, makes them people, I agree). The problem there is that you're turning something that previously had no self of self or identity and giving it one; which, ultimately, is just as cruel as taking it away in the case of rogue synths that are recaptured. In the pursuit of freeing these so-called 'slaves,' you create new, thinking beings capable of suffering whereas before their ability to really 'feel' that suffering was limited at best, given they knew their purpose and understood it, and nearly always had no problem with it until the railroad got their hands on them.
Sub to u bro that was funny as hell
But what about the brotherhood of steel? 🤔
Honestly my first playthrough was almost an institute playthrough. I went against them at every turn and they still made me their leader. The only reason I didn't end with them was because I refused to kill the railroad.
One thing I like about Fallout 4 is the moral ambiguity of the joinable factions. Nobody is free of sin, so it's up to the player to choose what they believe is the option best for humanity.
Love you and your videos have been a pleasure watching your content all these years and hopefully many to come
one small problem, if you wanna take all of america you have the courier to fight
I get people don't like them because they only look out for themselves, but keep in mind they said they won't bother anyone who doesn't bother them.
Don't ask about University Point.
@@MrSpeedysam60 Just ignore the classified research disagreement
The institute gives me vault 4 vibes 😮 scientists with no oversight are way to dangerous
Imagine how fucking delicious that would have been, 200 years of shitty water and finally,
This really makes me think- If Kang the Conqueror was in charge of the Institute! Great stuff man! I love his content, he has real talent.