I'm from theNavajo tribe of N.M. Yes, I think Mexicans and South Americans are native Americans. They had their own native language and cultures. We all used to travel long ways to trade coffee, gems, jewelry, foods in the past. Traveling from North to South America to trade before the Spaniards came and colonized us all in the America's. This is how Mexicans learned Spanish. In the past they spoke Inca's, Aztec's, Mayan's and many other tribes had their own native language before colonized.
Are you navajo or are from thier reservation? Its a big difference, The Navajo are not original to our land, In fact ancestors of ours knew the Mexican was our peoples thought we fought them, But knew the Navajo came from someplace else though we got along with them. I'm sure thought since you were labeled Apache you took in many of our peoples. But i would be interesting to find out why our ancestors spoke such things. From what i gathered Navajo came from another land & intermixed with others of our peoples but not originally of our peoples. Like from Asia or something? Though what i know of Navajo it indeed does seem to be of our peoples, However thier is also rumor's that over time they have stolen bits & pieces of other tribes beliefs. But I have not found any evidence of that. Shallawam Shallom Ayo Hawwah Great Spirit Bless.
When I went to cancun and got a tour of the pyramids, we saw the indigenous Mayans, and Oxacans get treated low class. They truly rough it out there 100 percent of the time in the jungle, roofs are rare.. 0.o
I unintentionally ended a friendship four decades ago when I said you look Indigenous to me. She was a US citizen born and raised here having parents both from Mexico. I did not know until that time how discriminated Indigenous people are treated in Mexico. I always believed people should be honored to have Indigenous blood flowing in their veins.
It is definetly important how you say indigenous or refer to it. As some people feel like you are telling them they are less than since many Mexicans are not in a tribe. So saying you look indiginous translates you are a native indigenous person. For some people its a sensitive topic. Its all about the context and also the individual person this is said to.
My Mother in law , who died a couple of years ago , She was born 100 years ago in Northern New Mexico . We did her DNA test before she died. She claimed 100% Spanish . She had only 12 % Spanish , She was 68 % Native DNA
When the Spaniards came to Mexico the ships didn't bring many Spanish women. So when people from New Mexico and Southern Colorado state they are 100% Spanish, I mention this to them. Plus in Spain there are log books of the people who came on these vessels and there were few women listed in there.
A considerable proportion of Mexico is Indian (of the type indigenous to the Americas) or part Indian. I've long heard that many of the Indians of Mexico loudly say that they are NOT Hispanic/Latino and that Spanish, in ANY form, is not their language.
💯 Mexican is a nationalist with many ethnicities , Mexico has 27 native tribes , German , Irish , Spanish, Jewish/ middle eastern ,African, and plenty of mixtures of people , the majority are mixed race just like the rest of central and South America 🥂
There were plenty Chichimecas too Tamahuras Yaqui Apache Comanche Otomí .Also the Aztecas were originally from Utah not many people know that but yeah they were a North American Tribe .
This was a very interesting topic , when I was younger sometimes I felt confused and lost,I was raised in San Diego around a lot of Mexicans learned how to cook some Mexican foods-dated and married a Mexican man ,I am very mixed myself,native yes from South America, Peruvian and Venezuelan, mothers grandma had blue eyes and blond hair ,dads grandma brown skin indigenous Peruvian never felt I fit in any specific racial group,but you are so right we have to educate ourselves about our cultures it’s really important to know your roots and more than anything about empathy and loving your neighbor as you love yourself .❤
That last part really needs to be highlighted it’s funny I actually felt the same way I don’t feel comfortable around white people or even welcomed sometimes even though I was born and raised in the USA even in dating I just feel comfortable around my ethnic group of people it’s interesting how segregation really affects us , in Mexico I’m called American but in USA I’m called Mexican lol regardless I love both countries
@@LaberintoAzul They became nationalist and withheld their caste system, which was created to further divide and conquer people. Reconnected indigenous people aren’t actually “free” and are always living in extremely poor conditions. Indigenous people everywhere have the highest poverty rates.
@@WALKINGPHONE You’re giving colonists more credit than they deserve. You can ask any connected indigenous person in MX, or indigenous scholars. The term ‘Aztec’ to refer to the empire was around much longer than the term ‘Mexica’. They were an empire that consisted of seven tribes. What we know now as the ‘Mexicas’ is one of them.
A large percentage of "Latino's" are of the Native American race/s. The United States government is aware of this, and does their best to have people of Native American descent immigrating to the U.S. identify as "Latino" and have the U.S. population see them as such. This is done in part to artificially reduce the population of Native Americans and reduce their political strength.
@@briancole7024 Conspiracy theory or not, those are the consequences of the government's disparate treatment of people of native descent. I'm not sowing division, I'm explaining why there is division between people of Native American descent from the United States and from the United States and those of Native American descent from south of the border.
For a long time, I had it, coming to AMERICAN does that, racism is real, so I tried to be as much American as possible. I am proud again, I am apache. My grandmother was Indian from jalisco m exico. I finally did research and found my roots via my gradmothers side.
@@josuelara3453 if we delve check you ain't really Mexican. Time to call out on Mexican nationalism BS. Only thing's prolly you come from a broke A family.
Great conversation! When I go to Mexico I'm considered American. When I'm in America I'm considered Mexican. When I was in the Middle East, people thought I was Arabian or Indian. I'm okay with all of it. Culturally, I'm American (born and raised). Genetically, I'm of Mexican Indigenous, Spanish, African, and Jewish blood. I speak English and Spanish fluently and I've started taking French lessons. I consider myself a citizen of the world. I've been to about 15 countries (in Asia, Latin America, and Middle East). I've always been comfortable everywhere I've been. Carry yourself with respect and you'll be treated accordingly.
There are many have j1 J1-P58 Thier ancestors had to adopt Christianity due ethnic clearance In andulisia I bet that people from arabian Background in Mexico more than Spanish descent
Creoles were of pure Euro-ancestry born in the Americas, who often had fewer rights and privileges than those born in Europe living in the Americas. This was one of the components that ignited revolution and wαך for independence of the Colonies in both North and South America. People from New Mexico are not Spanish nor are people from Louisiana, Creoles.
Mexicans are genetically a varied mix of multiple Earth people, but absolutely predominantly Native American and Iberian. We should be proud of both. Our biggest impediment as people is the psychological paralysis by analysis on this topic. Let’s own both sides proudly, develops proper self-term, and move forward.
you forgot to say spaniard in there....if it was just what you say we would may as well be called native indians ....or indigenious if you so proud and the first one is not good enough for you...
I'm proud my children have a large Otomi heritage from my husband's side. Their DNA test through Ancestry showed 47% - 49% Otomi and Chichimeca. My husband seems not to care, but I do. I can't wait to visit Querétaro and meet his family and the community there. I am learning a few things in Hnahnu and Nahuatl just in case I by chance get to meet anyone who still speaks those languages. The small town he is from mostly speaks Spanish, but I've read many online books about the surrounding areas that still speak indigenous languages. I love that my children have a connection to the indigenous of Mexico. My ancestors are from Scotland and Ireland and I think that's cool too. I hope to learn a few things in Gaelic as well, and I read a few things about the mysterious ancient Picts.
@annasalmans5523 I've always believed everyone should be proud of their heritage. This world is like a giant patchwork quilt, and every part is interesting and unique.
I am Sauk, Shawnee, and Muskogee. I always tell my Muskogee mom she is mexican because their peiple originate from the louisiana georgia and florida area. Some villages within the tribe actually had Aztec names and words, so I’m sure that either those words were preserved or a group of aztecs came and settled within our tribe. Doing research in a class I found stories talking about the migration of people from the Mexica area, who didn’t agree with the customs, to the north area. My Shawnee tribe apparently was known to have representatives travel across the whole United States (in this case, the great lakes to the gulf of mexico) and helped the Muskogee establish their first town. Though we spoke the same language by the time the colonizers came, there is definitely a chance that the Muskogee came to what is now the U.S. long after the Shawnee. My muskogee grandfather was a good amount shorter than me, so maybe he was related to one of the tribes in Mexico lol
Yep many people in Mexico have more than one native group in their ancestry. Before the 1680 Pueblo Revolt the Spanish were sending New Mexican Pueblo Indians to the silver mines in Mexico as slaves.
I’m so glad you guys talked about this! This was so necessary and very informative. Unfortunately, It’s difficult to find people who are interested and passionate about this topic.
I'm interested, I love learning about native culture as well, but let's be real too, scientifically in Mexico paternal haplogroups are predominantly european, about 60-70% come from european haplogroups, about 30% of Mexico's paternal haplogroups are Indigenous, Our maternal haplogroups are predominantly native, but they adopted most of our forfather's cultures. If you think about it, everything we love about Mexico today is predominantly hispanic and adopted elements of our mother's native culture, So in reality we are mestizo and culturally more hispanic.Nothing wrong with that, it's how we evolve as species.
Mexicans, like the rest of the Hispanic American population, are mostly mestizo, with a high percentage of pure natives; only 18% of the population in the Spanish Empire is exclusively white and it depends so much on the country, so no, you are aborigines in some percentage and whites in another, only some of you fall into the aborigen group (not native, natives are all).
@@colinchampollion4420 sorry, but you are the one who is incorrect.... We are talking about the people who lived in the area we now call Mexico before colonization. Don't try to separate nor diminish our Native American heritage! I know that a few modern people in Mexico are ashamed and embarrassed of our brownness and wish they could call themselves Spaniards. Some people wish they had fair skin. Every ethnic group, tribe or nation that lived in what we now call North America, Central America, the Caribbean and South America, they are all Native American. Don't try to separate Native American vs MesoAmerican. We are the same people, we have the same ancestors... That was all about dividing us and conquering us. With Colonization and mass migration, from the Middle East like the Lebanese to more present Asian groups, in 2024 some of us will have mix blood line, is only natural. Even the Spaniards weren't pure European. There is NO half European and half indigenous.... That is absurd My wife is fair skin, green eyes and her last name is Moctezuma. Guess what? Her DNA test results came back 70% Native American, 20% Iberian peninsula and the rest were a punch of different places. My DNA test came back, 90% Native American, 5% Arabian peninsula and 5% Irish... Don't know how that happened. Most of the modern Mexican people will have other blood mix in, which is why you said we are Mestizo. But not all Mexican people have the same level of European blood. Some Mexican people will have 100% or close to Native American lineage. In conclusion, people with ancestry from Mexico are Native American.
Wow, I'm constantly blown away at how you out do yourself with each new interview. I truly feel like a student in a "world classroom." Danielle thank you for bring these subjects out into open for through and honest discussion. I appreciate you. Gabriel Clark-Faust is young man searching and learning his truth and willing to share it with others. I've always seen people of Mexican heritage as also Indigenous people, so happy to see this discussed. We all become greater with these explorations. Thank you.
@@nytn It's easy to do. Positive light seeks positive light. Keep up the great research you are connecting and restoring history. I appreciate the space that you've created.
I basically agree with seeing Mexican as indigenous but many that come from the Northen most Mexican states like Chihuahua will often have a good amount more European Spanish or at least a little more European Spanish ancestry than they do Native.
Yea fasho we the same all my life Mexicans the older ones my homies fathers and grandparents etc would say “me and you same color” or “we are Apache” or “we have the same blood” ✊🏾
My moms super white but she did a 23and me and turns out she’s 60% indigenous from Central America. (We come from El Salvador). Genetics is so fascinating
Mine too. Lol. It’s weird that most North Americans don’t believe that indigenous Central American people are Native American. They think the US border created a different race.
@@JFoster310 hahahahaha right? What’s funnier is that Anglos who created all this mess think all “white” peoples are a monolith. Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks and Slavs are some of THE most racially mixed Europeans ever. Not to mentioned the most accustomed to living with other races. My great grandma born in Northern Mexico, looks like your average white Midwestern American. Turns out her mtDNA is Native American (a2a4 - Apache/Navajo). Discovered that her ancestors were Spanish settlers in New Mexico who mixed with local indigenous people. It’s just the offspring kept reproducing with the Spanish side and so there’s more European features than Native, however mtDNA doesn’t change at all when passed from mother to children :)
My mom was from Honduras. She was white and had blue eyes and red hair from her Spanish heritage and she was a tiny 4 foot 11 inches tall from her indigenous heritage. She was the fourth generation born in Honduras. I was born in Nicaragua.
@@gringo3002 Not technically, it its North American country. But the average American is dumb as rocks in the areas of race, nationality, ethnicity, and geography.
I find this conversation incredibly interesting when you also consider how many times our man-made borders have changed. Our DNA does not adhere to these borders. Personally, I think it’s most valuable how people and cultures define themselves, and I love to listen.
Just like the Middle East and Africa. European Empires almost always carve out borders in straight lines. Look at Mali/Niger/Algeria borders. They're straight lines going through deserts and grass plains. Middle East, Pakistan/India, Yemen all have pretty straight borders which disregards the habitants.
@@nytn can you explain how indigenous people started to become pale. Can you explain why all Latinos have a claim to be indigenous but they some how escaped being put on reservations
@@truthserum6672 reservations happened in america, not mexico. If your family has more indigenous ancestry south of the border, like mine, you wouldnt have that
I am Mexican born but with indigenous ancestry I am Apache of the Tarahumara people of chihuahua I have visited the Apache reservation in Arizona I feel a strong connection to our cousins on the American side and the Mexican side because we are the same people I do feel American 🇺🇸 but at the same time I know I’m Mexican and I know these lands used to be Mexico 🇲🇽 so I do feel at home and proud of my indigenous heritage of chihuahua.
Another thing how did the Mexican vaquero learn his trade of being a cowboy, he learned it from his Indian brother's. I'm Yaqui and proud of my indigenous ancestry.
you feel american because everybody in the Americas is American.....from chile and peru to the united states ...america is not a country its a continent and there is many countries in the americas just like there is many countries in europe...no matter what country people are from in europe they are still europeans ...
Anyone belong to ancient civilization would never attribute himself to colonizers unless if he came from countries like black Dominicans or Venezuela or Salvador poor history and civilization
I'm very indigenous, my mother understands Nahua however hasnt spoken it since she left mexico and therefore lost the tongue, from what she has said. However i refuse to believe it since she never brought it up or mentioned that fact to me. I learned through an aunt. My grandmother from my moms side, spoke Nahua, her old photos, straight up indigenous. From Southern Veracruz, bordering Oaxaca. My uncles on my moms side speak Nahua and communicate with Otomi tribes. However even with all this, I used to hate my indigenous features. Growing up in EEUU I got bullied until 18 for being indigenous looking, always being the butt end of a joke However you wanna call it, I got bullied for getting personal and or trying to recognize my indigenous roots. So i just always kinda kept it in the back ground. I didnt learn about my Nahua connections till I turned 21 because I realized how important it really is and integral it is to my mothers family identity. With all this being said, Indigenous Mexicans are natives and you should always be proud of your indigenous roots and vo back to Mexico if you have indigenous roots and please learn from your grandmothers jf you can. Or grandfathers. Also my grandmother was proof to me that Indigenous featurs are beautiful. She had strong indigenous roots. Someone loved her enough to create a family. Boom, made me realized my grandpa loved her and created my mom who then created me.
These southern American tribes are dying out fast, and learning as much about your culture is critical before the only sources of information are dead.
Peninsulares were the people born in Spain. The children of spaniards born in Mexico are criollos. The mixed race of spaniard and indigenous are the mestizos, indigenous and black were called zambos. I learned that in elementary school, second or third grade in Mexico. I'm 62 now.
I was born in Mexico, my mother was Mexican-Italian, my father was French- Italian. I call myself ( Mexican Italian French) and I say that we are Aztecas. Knowing that we are not Aztecs, but it sounds good. Live in USA US citizen 71 years.. 4 years Air Force Veteran. Puro Azteca. 😂
@StratOCasterMIJ90 No, its cultural and social standing, not racial, its just that if you stand out as obviously mexican but don't speak spanish, it's almost shameful and ignorant of your ancestry. Race and blood is integral but ultimately secondary to language and culture.
Cultures are always borrowing from other cultures. "Mexican" food is indigenous, "tortilla" means something different in Spain. In the US, salsa is more popular than ketchup (ketchup comes from a Chinese term). Potatoes transformed Europe, as did corn (maise), sunflowers, squash, tomatoes, etc. We learn from each other.
The fact that Mexican food has gotten so popular in the US is recent history. Growing up in the 1980s I was introducing the majority of my white friends too authentic Mexican food for the first time in their lives.
@@azborderlands The 80's Reagan era was when Latin immigration rapidly increased. Ask any Baby Boomer and they'll agree. My old HS didn't even have a soccer team until the Late 80's.
Yeah, I had a Navajo supervisor back in the day and one lunch he brought Navajo tacos for everybody. It was pinto bean based and had a thicker bread-like tortilla.
Each season in Creole Seasoning is colour coded for the particular "races" that would make one Creole. Take a guess at who the red pepper or cayenne pepper stands for."
My dad and I went to New Mexico years ago he was very old already but i took him with me to a ski resort and when we arrived the natives embraced him like if he was one of their own and even took him with my permission to go on the rides around the ski resort while I was skiing I do believe us Mexicans are descendants of American natives too
I’m not a historian, but that makes sense, since before anyone colonized this continent, there were no imaginary lines saying, “This is Mexico, USA, Canada, etc.” Very nice story ❤
@@JUVENTUS299Not everyone in Mexico adopted Spanish as a language. Close to 60 indigenous languages are spoken in Mexico nowadays. Unfortunately those who don’t speak Spanish are discriminated against and their rights are violated since they comprised the most marginalized section of our society as a nation.
@LlamameJazz they should be rewarded instead of getting punished for maintaining their language and culture that connected to the land Spanish language is nothing but the languages of colonizers stole this land and enslaved the locals and raped the natives Any country despise it's own history. It won't go forward without the association with its past
@@LlamameJazz Once the Indigenous from New Spain lost the protection granted by the Hispanic Monarchy, they became the prime victims of the newborn Mexican Republic in 1823, this government composed mostly of members of Freemasonry, who were the ones who orchestrated the destruction of the Spanish Empire, were subordinates and agents to the British Empire and its interests, and therefore, aligned to its ideologies of racial superiority that would dominate the next 200 years until today, a power that still dominates the world, and the reason why this abuses are still committed.
I was born in Washington State but my parents are from a little indigenous village in Mexico. My mother is half indigenous since her mother was from this village but her father was from outside of the village. He was pale, light brown eyes curly hair. And the people form the village were tan, jet black straight hair. So my mother looks indigenous but she’s light skinned, curly hair light brown eyes. I always get mistaken for Asian but I think it’s because I look indigenous but inherited my grandpa’s skin tone and have indigenous eyes that look Asian. Idk I feel proud to be indigenous ❤ I feel it in my blood, I see it in the mirror. My ancestors. I look completely different than the rest of the people from the village but I see the resemblance and it’s just a beautiful thing.
All "tribes" are defined by familial/blood relations, by definition. Everything else is arbitrary and meaningless. "Blood is thicker than water, or "identity"."
You got some terms mixed up. Peninsular refers to being from the "península ibérica", that is from Spain. Criollos, not peninsulares, were the ethnic Spanish born in America (the continent).
I've met people of Mexican descent here in Arizona who fully identified as Hispanic, but looking at them, I could tell they were genetically Navajo because I've met Navajo before. They were surprised when I told them this.
To be Hispanic is a culture. It includes language, customs, foods, sayings, beliefs, traditions, art, a whole world of music. So if someone tells you that they are Latino , then they are Latino, because they most identify with that and their parents did. Be careful telling someone who “they are” because you think you know better. It’s very offensive. They will tell you who they are culturally. That’s why you should not tell a black person from Cuba or a Dominican that they are not Latino. They are culturally. People might look to be a certain thing to you, but they know how they grew up.
@@nz1268firstly if you get offended if someone call you something that you are not, simply you become as ignorant as that person. Second, people have to educate themselves to understand what is or who is Hispanic or Latino. Hispanic is a person who is born in a country who’s mother language is Spanish, and Latino is someone who comes from a country where their language derivers from Latin. Brazilians are Latinos but they are not Hispanic. Being Latino or Hispanic has nothing to do with your culture or heritage, there is where you are wrong!
@@agaspiderman921 you probably have never had someone do that. It’s offensive. Very offensive. Hope you don’t do something stupid like that. If you do, then you are stupid. White people seem to have a habit of telling other people who they are or are not. It messes with a person’s identity.
Half of you did your half of you is native the other half spanish sorry thats why we are La Raza The Race that didn't exist till the spanish got here Like the Amerasians from servicemen who were in vietnam during the war, except the spanish were there for 300yrs. My sister did the 23 and me dna thing and it said native American and Iberian peninsula(spain) and a certain amount sub suharan African from the Moors (Muslims) invaded spain for 300 yrs.
This guy is Mexican ~▪︎which is commonly Mestizo which is half European and Mexican - Indigenous. We have our own unique culture and speak an European Language. He is NOT pure Mexican ~ Indigenous if he was his hair would be very straight and thin😂🎉! His hair is very Mestizo thick 'n WAVY ~ a dead give - away😮🎉😂!
My grandfather is half native half Spanish from New Mexico. He experienced a lot of racism for being native looking from whites who simply called him a “spic.” We always said the borders moved around us!!
@user lol not all natives have straight hair…anyway he might be part Spanish somewhere distantly but what is that doing for him? He’s native, proud to be native.
The fact that two men could adopt an indigenous child and hurl racial slurs at him telling him what not to be is sickening. But as soon as somebody says some slur about their preference, then it would be victim mode…
And reactionaries exist across race, class, gender and sexual orientation…just b/c someone may be from a historically marginalized group doesn’t automatically bestow progressive beliefs on that person…
I had a white Mother my Father was Cherokee/ Kickapoo🪶🐻. With a little Italian-Jewish who sailed for Spain in 1656 to Texas.) and 10% Senegal Africa. 😂 So I guess I'm a citizen of the world with a short visit on Earth. 🏴☠️ But in my reality the Earth is a prison planet. 🦅
Danielle, this is probably the most controversial topic you have researched and shared. Thank you Gabriel. And I hope you 2 are able to explore this subject more.
And the word coyote, what a colorful word. My uncle and father had a bar named El Coyote. And when I went to Peru, a future good friend called me cholo and I thought he was trying to start a fight with me. I can go on and on.
I am hoping she starts to delve into the most taboo of ALL subjects on this matter... RACELESSNESS... a unified, species wide, core identity founded on PSYCHOLOGICAL, not spiritual, AWARENESS. THAT, to me, is the creme de la creme of CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS. But, i have been wrong many times in my life, so... Their race[s], THEIR god[s]... THAT matters. When WE use their ideas, RELIGIONS (Latin for, "bind [back] to") and languages we THINK like them even if DEEP inside, our TRUE selves, dont want ANY part of "it". And [y]our kids FOLLOW U[S], following them. "It is this ideological abrogation to the authority that constitutes the principal cognitive basis of obedience. If, after all, the world or the situation is as the authority defines it, a certain set of actions follows logically. The relationship between authority and subject, therefore, cannot be viewed as one in which a coercive figure forces action from an unwilling subordinate. Because the subject accepts authority's definition of the situation, action follows willingly." [Obedience To Authority, Stanley Milgram, 1973] "A moral point of view too often serves as a substitute for understanding in technological matters." [Understanding Media: The Extension of Man, Marshall McLuhan, 1964, Ch. 24: Games] "The "Aryan Majesty" is evidently the Aryan power or state, political, social and religious. It is simply the Aryan greatness and supremacy. ... For the infidels whom it conquers are creatures..., even, as these make it unprosperous, the annihilation of the sickness was necessary to the existence of the majesty. The existence of one involved the annihilation of the other..... "You hardly utter a sentence of our Romance tongue, without speaking some word which was spoken in the same sense by that ancient people, ten thousand years ago or more, in the mountain-valleys which they first inhabited. You have their idiosyncrasies of thought, the same indelible characteristics of race; for you are their descendants. From them you have your excellencies & your faults, your energy, your vigor of intellect, your philosophical cast of thought, your indomitable resolution, your persistent pursuit of the object you desire to attain; from them the religious leanings & inclinations of your minds; from them your social institutions & relations, & the foundation-stones of your laws, customs, habits; from them all your philosophical & religious doctrines. They were white men, as we are, the superior race in intellect, in manliness, the governing race of the world, the conquering race of all the races. They called themselves Arya, the Aryans, the Warlike, or, some think, the Noble." [Lectures of the Arya, Albert Pike, 1930, Lecture One: The Aryan Race]
I think the native Americans comes from either the Incas or Olmecas the Olmecas was a civilization before the Mayans and the Aztecs but they trying to say that we come from the native Americans the ones who live in the United States
I am a Mexican because I was born in Mexico but my lineage is as follows my paternal grandmother was an Indian from Zacatecas my maternal great grandfather was French. I am proud of the wonderful mix that makes me who I am.😊
“The receipts of our history” make me think humanity is on some sort of recurring subscription to war and poverty and abuse. Every time things look like they might be getting better they renew the subscription.
Ever since the era of Bable the devil has only came to causes confusion & destruction to be divided instead of united we are all brothers & sisters... remember how the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend no matter their ethnicity or belief in faith.
Unfortunately true (and well stated). It would be nice if we could stop renewing the subscription and dooming ourselves and future generations to repeating history.
It’s true. Look at all the currently discovered cities buried over time being researched all over the globe. Literally layers of past civilizations near or under others. Amazing Deserts that were oceans or lakes… amazing cycle except things are getting worse over time.
I'm a 1st generation Mexican American natural born citizen, born and raised in Chicago. I am the youngest of 5, my other 3 siblings were born in Mexico. I and one other brother were born in Chicago. My Father is from the Mexico city, Mexico and my mother is from Michocan, Mexico. On my Father's side my grandfather is a Spainiard who served as Dr. In the Army in Mexico. I served in the United States Army from 1990 to 2009 and my son was born in Germany. My son's mother is Welch, Irish and English but born in the United States. My daughter's mother is 100% Puerto Rican born in Brooklyn, NY. Guys most of us are from somewhere right? We should be proud of our lineage and ancestors and embrace our unique identity. We should however be loyal to our country and its Constitution. We need to force our government to remove from the Census the question that's asks us to state if we're white, latino, black or asian. We are American and we are United. They need to stop dividing us. Sorry for the rant.
What a joke!! I bet you it's idiots like you that claim cultures are ment to be shared?? You have no clue what your ethnicity is!!! You think Puerto Rico is an ethnicity or a group of people???? What kind of education is this??? The hell do they learn up north?
Sorry but the white man's government doesn't represent me. I'm Tigua and we were here before the white man's government and will be here after it collapses.
The Taino Indians (Arawak Indians) and the Carib Indians are the native people of the Caribbean islands where Puerto Rico is located. The natives were there first, then Europeans (mostly Spaniards) came in the late 1400s to control Puerto Rico and Spanish is the dominant language there to this day. West Africans and Central Africans were brought in later during slavery. In the Caribbean islands that were controlled by the British, some Europeans, East Asians and South East Asians were brought in as indentured workers when slavery ended but they were taken to the English-speaking territories.
I got in an argument with a native american woman disrespecting a mexican guy calling him a wetback and I told her she was wrong and don't say this because I don't like no racial slurs and they are indigenous and she told me they aren't. Before colonization there weren't any borders and turtle island was all one huge land mass. I am a black man who also have cherokee and blackfoot roots and I couldn't understand that just because you are raised on a reservation you are the only one who can call your self indigenous or native american.
That's how it works in the US, in Mexico it's much harder to be native. You have to speak the language, wear the clothes, live the culture, and reject modernity. That's why you won't actually find Mexican natives online, those are children of natives that left the tribe but still speak some of the language. Natives in Mexico 😂 😂😂 rarely identify as Mexican, or speak Spanish.
She needs to learn how the Uto-Aztecan language goes back to even the plains indians. Heck, many "Native Americans" inter-marry with "Mexicans" in the SouthWest. Navajo/Dine folks (certain bands) marry the "Mexican" people.
This is interesting because my 86 year old mother had her dna checked for ethnicity and it listed a couple of towns in Mexico so i started to do her ancestry. Come to find out she only had two and a half generations come from Mexico, but before Mexico we found out that she's a descendant of california mission indian Luiseno band. We are shocked. My cousin found out that my fathers material side is also California Native American Serrano we couldn't find past two years of records in Mexico either.. why are we being told we are Mexican? Probably because at one time California to Colorado was part of Mexico, but before that it was part of Spain.
This is a much needed a coversation. I have met several people who will dispute that most of the Hispanic community are indigenous. They don't even know our linage and will argue it for dominance of the conversation. Its very frustrating when you actually know how long you have been on your native soil and terrain, just for someone else across the country to yell at you... Saying you are wrong! This is the first step. Educate! ❤
@@gustavosandoval4480yes we are Hispanic but that label doesn’t apply the same to many of the European descendent as well as to the descendants of natives as well as the Africans. It is much more complicated than just “Hispanic” and some of us are proud of those roots we share; like the menonitas that still speak in German; to My Great Grandfather being indigenous and speaking his language.
I am puerto rican, Portuguese and African American. I get alot of hate for the fact that I was raised by my black side. I have little to no knowledge of my Latino side. My grandfather was African American and ward of state. He was raised by a white family. My grandma Portuguese and black. My grandma knew Portuguese but all those traditions died with her. My dad's side is the Puerto rican side and I met that side a bit later and never fully felt apart of it. I'm so saddened that I don't know my roots. What I've learned is through history. It's been a rough road. I am rather light skinned. So when I say I'm black I'm met with jokes questioning my identity. That the only black thing about me is my hair. The colorism over colonialism has always been there in my life. This video has resonated with me.
Latin/Latino is the language spoken by the Romans. It's not a "Side" and not your heritage. Maybe you mean Latin American but Latin American is not a Race so look for a better definition.
Every person on earth is mixed , except the Africans from africa. Mexicans are different mixtures, of natives & Europeans. There are different tribes of natives Americans in Mexico,not just Aztec. During the European invasion different kinds of Europeans arrived not just the Spanish or English. So Mexicans are an Admixture of Indians and European. We are not exactly a 50/50 mix. We can have 80/20 mix , I'm 70 % native American ,20% Spanish, and 10% a few other different peoples.
Your Mom was Sephardic Jews, all from Portugal /Spain what was Iberia. You said African only because of the blackness of the Jews of Portugal and not because an African slave was captured in Ghana. If you want know your mother’s history read this book, Jews and Muslim in British Colonial America. For most Americans, the story of their nation’s origins seems safe, reliable and comforting. We were taught from elementary school that the United States was created by a group of brave, white Christians drawn largely from England who ventured to these shores in search of religious freedom and the opportunity to fulfill their own destiny. Recent revisions to this idealized and idyllic narrative have never seriously questioned its basic tenets. So although we now recognize some of the contributions made by Africans to America’s success and feel perhaps a heightened sense of regret, remorse and even guilt over the destruction of American native cultures, we never have had much reason to doubt the basic premise of the story. Our founding mothers and fathers were white, Christian and British. In this work, we present a series of Colonial documents, contemporary firsthand accounts, records, portraits, family genealogies and ethnic DNA test results which fundamentally challenge the national storyline depicting America’s first settlers as white, British and Christian. We postulate that many of the initial colonists were of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish ancestry. Usually arriving as crypto-Jews with their religious adherence disguised, and crypto-Muslims, these immigrants served in prominent economic, political, financial and social positions in all of the original colonies. The evidence in support of this radical new narrative begins with an examination of the British colonial companies organized in England to bring settlers to North America and exploit the natural riches believed to be there. Of course, both Spain and France had already made forays into North America, founding St. Augustine and exploring parts of the coastline as far north as Newfoundland, though their activities as foreign powers are given short shrift in our Anglo-centric version of the birth of America. What is even less frequently mentioned regarding these Spanish and French settlements and voyages is that many of the colonists and sailors were of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish descent. Several of those aboard Christopher Columbus’s first voyage in 1492 and famously even Columbus (Colon) himself were of Jewish ancestry. They were Jews or crypto-Jews. One historian of Inquisitional Spain and biographer of Christopher Columbus, Simon Wiesenthal, notes that “throughout the sixteenth century the movement of the Marranos to the New World had continued,” and that “after the expulsion of the Jews and flight of the Marrano element, it was the turn of the Moriscos to serve as scapegoats for the ills of society.” The same writer estimates that, all told, Spain lost one and one-half million people as a consequence of the “purification” of its population of Jews and Moors. “Many occupations were virtually abandoned,” he writes. “Trade, the crafts, and the sciences languished. Moreover, since these branches of endeavor had been the domain of Jews and Moriscos, they had become in themselves suspect. Spaniards had to be extremely careful about entering any of these fields.... Spanish life as a whole was the worse for these injustices.... Spain was swamped with fortune hunters from all parts of Europe ... but they could not revive the Spanish economy. Just as the irrigation canals dug by the Moors in Andalusia were allowed to silt up, so the very channels on which the country’s health depended fell into neglect.” We document that Spain’s loss was Britain’s gain. Beginning with the initial planning, organization and promotion of the first British colonial efforts, Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors were present as navigators, ship captains, sailors, metallurgists, cartographers, financiers and colonists. Among these we find Joachim Ganz, Simon Ferdinando, Walter Raleigh, John Hawkins, Humphrey Gilbert, Richard Hakluyt Sr. and Jr., Francis Drake, Martin Frobisher and Abraham Ortelius. The first and second British colonies in North America, Virginia and Massachusetts were provisioned, funded and peopled by persons of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish descent. Current genetic genealogical studies of the Appalachian descendants of these early colonists demonstrate that they carried DNA haplotypes (male or female lineages) and genes from Sephardic, Ottoman and North African founders. Further, these early North American colonists often bore straightforwardly Jewish and Muslim surnames. Attested are Allee, Aleef, Sarazin, Moises, Bagsell, Haggara, Ocosand and even Saladin. Indeed, given the patently non-Christian backgrounds of so many settlers up and down the Atlantic coastline of the American colonies, it becomes difficult to ignore the significant declarations of religious tolerance inscribed in the U.S. Constitution. Even (and particularly) New York, founded by the Dutch as New Amsterdam, was heavily peopled by Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors. The presence of persons from these ethnic affiliations on the governing boards of the Dutch West and East India Companies is no accident. They included Jonathan Coen (Cohen) and Cornelius Speelman (another classic Jewish name). Other New Amsterdam, and later New York, residents were Jacob Abrahamsen and Denys Isacksen. We present contemporaneous testimony suggesting that even the leading Knickerbocker families of the New York colony -the van Cortlandts, Philipses, van Rensselaers, De La Nos and De Lanceys - were of Sephardic ancestry. This fresh look at Colonial American genealogies and settler lists presents for the first time in one source the Spanish, Hebrew, Arabic and Jewish origins and meaning of more than 5,000 surnames, the vast majority of them widely assumed before to be sturdy British family names of ancient bearing. Many of our name etymologies plainly contradict the standard reference works. The decipherment of surname history is an involved subject, one that can extend over centuries of transformation in several countries and require knowledge of a multitude of languages. For instance, in order to understand the sea change suffered by the ancient Jewish name Phoebus to English Phillips (and Scottish Forbes and Frobisher), with stages along the way as Pharabas and Ferebee and Furby, one must have an appreciation for the synthesizing religions of the Roman Empire, including the Cult of Mithras and naming practices of Greek-speaking congregations of Jews, as well as conversion of Berber populations to Judaism, conquest of Spain by Berber armies in 710 and subsequent development of Judeo-Arab culture, not to mention the medieval French, Norman, Anglo-Saxon and Scottish linguistic, orthographic and social filters the surname passed through until it became enshrined in modern times as “good ole English” Phillips.
A lot of Mexicans do honor their Indigenous heritage. We know we can be a mix, but many of us connect easily to our Indigenous ways of life. The U.S. confuses the issue a lot. Everyone has their experience. I find that anyone "searching" has issues with identity. Most who are accepting or comfortable connect easily. ✌️😁❤️👍
Eight times out of ten Mexicans and Hispanics in general the mixed ones be it Mestizos, Pardos, Zambos, Castizos, Indo Mestizos, Harnizos, Melungeons, Mulattoes, etc see themselves as better then pure blooded Indios and pure blooded Negroes as well as pure blooded East Asians yeah.
To connect you need to actively practice. Just like Africans you have a singular tribe that you can trace your genetic history back to. That tribe has its own concept of life and rituals. That’s connecting.
Hi I'm Native American, specifically White Mountain Apache, from the Fort Apache Indian Reservation. I am gonna comment as someone from a rez, 3/4 apache and 1/4 Navajo, enrolled only to WMAT, and grew up watching RUclips videos. This video is very interesting and a bit personal as it touches on indigenous identity. I have some college but could not afford to continue, but that will be changing this year because I need to get back out there and connect to all my native friends I met. All indigenous communities I feel are being reminded after the pandemic that we are not stagnant and now it seems that some are resisting assimilation and are starting to decolonize. After Standing Rock, no dapl, new DNA technology, the internet, social media, and the increase discussion of Indigenous identity, that the US hegemony is starting to crack. I have privilege to be born into the tribe, have grandparents who speak the language, can understand the language, culture, and communities. These videos you and others do are bringing back my sense of expression that I loss during the pandemic. I guess the intention of my comment is that I'm excited and truly thank you, Gabriel, and other indigenous RUclipsrs I've come to know that I want to participate and I want to grow as well. Thank you and take care.
Remember we were all part of new Spain. The natives were allowed to keep their culture and traditions just as in what is now currently Mexico. Alfonso Borrego is a descendant of Geronimo and goes out and explains the difference between Anglo and Hispanic culture and treatment of natives
@@richlisola1not really when you learn that Apache refers a lot of different tribes, clans, bands, and peoples. Even the dialects of apache are different with whom they interacted with daily, (western apache, eastern apache, etc.) Also Mexicans (nationality) and Apache (tribal identities) are similar but not the same. The nuance is not in similarities but slight differences, (language, culture, religion, spirituality, location, etc.) It's not surprising to me as White Mountain Apache, that Mexicans and some of my people and other apache tribes fought. Do you understand Apache culture from those times?
@@ambrosewilliams1897 I was being somewhat purposely obtuse. To mock the notion that shared blood is all that’s needed to make peace. A silly modern notion. I’m with you. I know why the Apache and the Mexicans hated one another. -Name me an Apache band that didn’t loathe the Mexicans for all the ghastly crimes committed by the Mexicans amidst their efforts to settle the Southwest? The Mexicans managed to out Spanish the Spanish in their ruthless killing of the Apache. Whatever likenesses one gleans between the Apache and the Mexicans. Tell it to Geronimo’s children. Geronimo, who died dreaming of killing Mexicans. And rightfully so.
Growing up in California as a mixed race person with roots to the Inca Valley one thing that struck me about "Mexicans" is all through my childhood and twenties they were the only people that would ever accept me as if I was one of them. People from the other parts of my roots would always make sure I knew I was not welcome, and even other South Americans would do that (I didn't actually meet anyone else from the high Andes until I was almost 50). But Mexican would always act like I was a Chicano even after I corrected them. And when I've gone to Mexico, Indigenous folks there have asked me "where are you really from?" because I sound like a gringo, but I look and stand like a cousin. My impression is that "Mexican" Mexicans are very aware of and growing increasingly more proud of their Indigenous side. In Peru being indigenous is a bad thing outside of the Andes, but in Mexico everyone seems to try to claim to be at least part Indigenous.
Gabriel(Hebrew), Clark(English), Faust(German).........His own name is a perfect expression of the linguistic/cultural labels that have been imposed on Native Peoples, the world over. No wonder he has so many "identity" issues. He loves his name, but he also knows on some level it's not "right".
Recently getting my driver license again after a while of not having one and what bothers me is the people making me check the “white” race box and only being able to check “Hispanic” “Latin American” on ethnicity . Never liked Latin American or Hispanic term. Knowing there is more to my ancestry . So I wrote human and they didn’t let me till I checked the “white” box. It’s frustrating and needs to be changed.
Yeah? Well no one, nor the state has the time to examine your entire pedigree is. I’m Mexican American by nationality… but I am half Spaniard, and Half Native American with a little Italian, Central African, Berber and Latvian thrown in there. I’m gonna check what I predominantly am. I can’t claim those other ones cause I’ve never grew up as any of them, nor have any direct links to them other than a few ancestors. You are half European, half Spanish. Period. Accept it. Jesus Christ.
@@colinchampollion4420 no, it’s just the way the system is set up. This system you’re talking about is Anglo American and it’s how they keep track of demographics. In our realm, even in Spain, these boxes and way of thinking are non existent. But since we’re in USA, the European side is what dominates and is what’s referred to FIRST before anything. But in our case as Hispanic Americans, we can check either or. White or Native American or “other” - and you wouldn’t be wrong. All these terms, people know jack about. Let me help you. “White” is an Anglo/Anglo American invention and it used to mean of English/Germanic descent until recent when USA decided it to mean or include All other Europeans. “Hispanic” is derived from “Hispania” which was the Roman name for Spain and is a culture that originated and comes from Spain. Spaniards are Hispanics. European Hispanic. “Hispanic American” refers to those who have Spanish ANCESTRY in the Americas. In other contexts “Hispanic” refers to the Spanish and “American” refers to the Amerindian/Indigenous. It’s a blending of both worlds and cultures, so it’s not wrong to use that term either. “Latino” or “Latin American” is a French invention. It’s simply a linguistic nomenclature. We’re called Latinos because we speak a Latin language and descend from Latin people (in this case Spain and Portugal). Latin America has evolved to indicate a geographic-linguistic region and so it’s not bad to identify with that term either. You can call yourself Hispanic, Hispano, Hispanoamericano, Hispanic American, Amerindian, Latino, Latin American, Latin if you want and you wouldn’t be wrong. It’s just contextual preference. I prefer Hispanoamericano, Hispanic American, Mestizo. Because it refers to both my heritages. Hispanic refers to Spain, just like “Slavic” may refer to Russia, Belarus, Yugoslavia, etc. just like how Celtic refers to Irish, Welsh, Scottish… just like Germanic refers to Germany, Norway, Dutch, Austrian - just like Iranic refers to Kurds, Iranian, Afghans, etc… Hispanic is in the same boat as All those.
Now older, I am looking into my native ancestry, looking to find out more. Great conversation, you are not alone in having interest in this topic.Thankful you are educating us more on this topic 👏🏼
@@Richard-gp5tg not the same condition. You were still white and on the bottom of list of importance European intelligence when you came to America. Do your research. Not the same thing.You weren't considered less than a man or woman when you came in through Ellis Island as immigrants or when ever.
Im Mexican American I do believe the we are part of the American natives. Aztecs n Maya's have blood from the American natives. Just look it's me Mexicans we do look like. I live in South Dakota so I've seen many many natives n we look a like. N plus half of the land was part of Mexico Utah Colorado new Mexico Arizona California Texas Oklahoma Wyoming. So we are part of the Mexican Aztecs mayas with native American. We all are brothers so ain't matter where we come from the longest we respect n love each other that's what matters love you all around the world n God bless everyone
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck Mexicans also have African blood, but they are ashamed of it. That's truly sad. The Mexican government just recently admitted that the third root of the Mexican people is Africa!
very interesting... I am from Mexico and after 500 years people here are quite mixed....true there have been several waves of immigration so although most have actual Spanish decsent some have more recent one. The point about "Latino" to me has more to do with the language, in other words the Spanish language and the Portuguese language while your're at it, and that is a big influence in culture in general, so that kind of puts us in common ground. Many people here in Mexico I'm sure can't pinpoint their origin even within the country...some can. For many that's not relevant. What I think is we should strive to be one country al least and all Mexicans within Mexico be treated equally.
I love having my native roots. I have no detectable Spanish DnA even though I am mixed with other European dna but I look more native. However I never knew I had that much native until I did my dna . I love your videos. Thank you for sharing all these wonderful stories.
@@azborderlands yes I am half white . I am of mixed race. I am a big mix of things. I have from my father’s side scandinavian, Irish, welsch and Scottish dna. From my mother’s side I have Indigenous Amazonian, Mesoamérican and andean some Nigerian and North African. No Iberian came up. Even though my mom says her father’s father was Spaniard. I don’t really know but I didn’t get any of it.
@21:35, all state laws regarding Native Americans, targeted Natives with origins in the United States, it had nothing to do with Indigenous Peoples of the South. The State and Federal laws regarding Indigenous law, policy and recognition, didn't recognize any Indigenous People from the South, they considered them to be Mexican Mestizo etc., which is a genocidal Indigenous policy to not at least recognize that Native People exist down south and immigrated from the South.
@@WakingtheGiant4 Sure. Have you looked into Northern Mexican Tribes, I think you have ancestry from that region. I know there are probably 100 Tribes of the region, so it will be hard to find your extended family and community without proper records. But it is still possible.
@@Thomas_Oklahoma You are correct brother. My roots are Yoreme on my paternal side. I’ve made contact with the tribe and am now in the process of learning the language.
@@WakingtheGiant4 I just finished watching the rest of your interview, where you mentioned that. I'm glad that you are discovering your roots, Yoreme identity and heritage. I did a few projects about Indigenous Northern Mexico, and I noticed you look like some of the Tribal people's of the Sonora region. 👍🏼
10:18 I think he mixed up "Peninsulares" and "Criollos". It makes no sense that "Criollos" were the ones born in the Iberian Peninsula, and "Peninsulares" (literally, "from the Peninsula") the ones born in Mexico...
Danielle, I’m so enjoying your interviews. Each one continues to reveal so many hidden gems to our history whether good or bad. Gabriel thank you for breaking things down and explaining them in a way that’s understandable and with such patience. At the end of each video I’m like that’s it, I wonder what’s next🤦🏾♀️😂
Hello I agree with most of the video. I came out genetically harnizo (70% caucasoid and 30% Amerindian), but I look Turkish by phenotype (olive skin, full dark beard, balding, etc). Besides having Spanish and some Amerindian, I have also Turkish, Cypriot and Balkan ancestry (there was a good amount of Ottoman immigrants to Latin American countries, Mexico included. My great great grandfather was one of those immigrants who immigrated to Mexico) My paternal Haplogroup is I2a2 (very rare in Mexico as it is a Balkan and to a lesser extent Anatolian haplogroup , most Mexicans have an Iberian paternal Haplogroup) and A2 as my maternal Haplogroup (common in Western México). Great job for this video!
Through my DNA I found out I was 51% native American, 25% Spanish and 17% Portuguese. I was raised believing I was Mexican. I'm very proud of being all three of 'em! And by the way I just turned 79yrs. So what's the big deal?!! We are all children of God.
Torres is a Mexican name. My neighbors growing up were Torres, and Mexican-American... In the Midwest, many with Spanish names are originally from other countries, and don't like at all when ignorant people assume they are Mexican.
I dislike the broad labeling of colonization. I don't want to say they are lying. It is really disingenuous to me to pretend like the bad things regarding racial groups or ethnicities are a result of colonization. For example the native tribes that my DNA belongs to was constantly attacked and driven out of north texas by the plains tribes. They chose to align with the Mexican govt for protection. The white men didn't force them to do that. The plains tribes did. Even in Mexico nationality existed before the Spanish. It was just tribally identity that was important. The Aztecs,Mayans, and Incans controlled massive territories. They taxed, discriminated, and established legal systems that promoted their own tribesmen. Why are so many brown people willing to accept civilization only came from Europe. No humans do the same things everywhere they go. Sure it is a fact Europeans have been the most successful in spreading their culture but they weren't the only ones who tried.
What? War and traitorous alliance is not civilized. Civilization is the cooperation and community that makes survival easier. The violence that certain kinds of people always create or bring in is archaic.
Truth is so wonderful. Wow, I've been waiting for this conversation as BLK, man, for a long time. This something needs to be brought to the forefront. Wish you the Best, THANK YOU.
it would have been nice to have this conversation with someone who was raised in a traditional Native household & community. converts are often overzealous & idealize the experience rather than providing a more objective viewpoint. this guy doesnt represent a traditional indigenous lifestyle, he represents the elements he picked & chose to emphasize as an adult thru the lens of someone raised in not just a European American household, but one with extra baggage of their LGBTQ identity which, as he stated, was given priority over the indigenous traditions he attempted to kearn later in life. postcolonial studies are boring. it’s the dead horse that continues to be beaten to advance the concept of racial grievance. if we’re trying to study indigenous cultures in the 21st century, talk to ppl who were actually raised within the culture. a Californian who is racially indigenous but culturally as Anglo as it gets shows us nothing about indigenous cultures as they navigate the challenges of the 21st century. if being indigenous is just a springboard to feel aggrieved the entire point is missed. i’d rather learn about the indigenous cultures themselves, not just another guy pushing SJW narratives. this is uninformative & boring for anyone that has read an 8th grade American History textbook.
His experience being from a closed adoption is uniquely difficult, and I think everyone deserves to know their family story-which is what my channel focuses on. Id love to talk with someone raised in a traditional Native household. Both experiences are important!
Well, Gabriel is working on reconnecting, I'll give him that. I'm not keen on adopting any terminology, but the important thing is he is trying. I have some agreement with you, the Native communities should try to avoid western gender terminology, as many Native cultures of North America, have a two spirt (male, female and one who sees/fits both genders) concept already.
im not discounting his experience or his right to know his ancestral roots. his *personal* story is very interesting. the issue is that it is presented as a Native Mexican viewpoint when culturally he is technically neither & that is reflected in the emphasis on colonial & postcolonial grievances & less on what it’s actually like to have been born & raised an indigenous Mexican.
@chokloconqueso8446 This also brings up the border crossed us argument bc i believe it did for mexicans culturally, but im not sure about SW natives. Bc during and after, there was brutal warfare between the two. Which i think is more proof that we are a separate people but perhaps possibly converged in an alternate timeline many pueblo and Taos people proir to US annexation. Who knows.
20 Million Indigenous People In Mexico are still Fighting for their rights and still Indigenous People Are Mexico They Have A Very Strong and Important Role In Society. That’s Why You Have Guys Like Canelo Alvarez Saying I’m A Aztec Warrior. Which is Beautiful To See To Me.
I really enjoyed this conversation you both are having about being indigenous. This is an answer to the main point of the video. "Are Mexicans Native Americans? Mexicans is just a name to recognize one is from the country of Mexico. Yes, Mexicans are Native Americans because Mexico belongs to the American continent, until The United States came to be part of this continent and changed it all from the real nativos.
I took a DNA test and i discovered that i am 60% European, 15% Native American, and 17% African so i really am Hispanic. I was born on the island of Puerto Rico.
There's a lot of misconceptions of what it means to be Hispanic or Latino. First off people need to realize that being Hispanic and Latino has nothing to do with race or ethnicity and I speak from own experience being black and coming from the Latin American region. Historically the term "Latino" was imposed on South Americans by the French for the purpose of claiming Spain former colonies for themselves. Then there's also the Monroe Doctrine. Beyond that I think we need to stop confusing nationality, ethnicity and race.
Monroe made four basic points: (1) the United States would not interfere in European affairs; (2) the United States recognized and would not interfere with existing colonies in the Americas; (3) the Western Hemisphere was closed to future colonization; and (4) if a European power tried to interfere with any nation
Where do yall get this stuff: Latino has its origins in the French term Amérique latine, coined in the mid-19th century during the Second Mexican Empire to identify areas of the Americas colonized by Romance-speaking people and used to show affinity with French allies during the Mexican Empire, also termed the Mexican intervention.[16]
Latino word is understood as Latino American but the ORIGIN of the word isn't that!! The origin is a colonizers term invented and used by the French and Spanish!
Blood quantum seems very inaccurate to me. It often ASSUMES tat the FIRST ancestor in the genealogy is 100%(full-blood) all the way down to 0%(Freedmen). All who follow in those bloodlines today are quantum based on those great-grandparent's original quantum. My 5 Civilized ancestors were marked as Freedmen on the Dawes, but my Woodland ancestor's tribes use genealogy/descent. Seems that many of the Virginia Indians were enslaved or indentured at one time and mixed blood with the Free Mulatto communities after Native slavery was outlawed around 1700. Very few of the Woodland tribes(at least not the ones whose DNA I have seen) have relatively* substantial amounts of Native DNA, but on the Freedmen's side, I connect to Harjo and Blue Jacket descendants who have between 12% and 25% Native DNA, while I have 8% coming mostly from my Freedmen side. I'm sure that a strong majority of mine comes from the Freedmen side because 23andme says it comes from that side. Seems some Freedmen may have been ACTUALLY "By Blood", and that many of those who were "By Blood" had blood quantum based on assumption. I also have a Sioux match that hit almost 80% Indigenous, and I have seen Choctaw up there too. Upper Plains Indians seem to score as high as Navajo and Apache. That flies in the face of the belief that all tribes east of the SW are mostly White in their make-up kinda like Mexicans. DNA should be a NEW way of Indigenous identity, but the gatekeepers prefer the methodology that allows them to have more selective power. Being Indigenous is also a cultural identity when it comes to tribal enrollment, but that's also where favoritism can come into play.
In South Louisiana, we have Native communities that are mixed and have historically intermingled with African and European groups. They are reconnecting with their Indigenous Native ancestral ways. Nations like the Houma, Ishak/Atakapa, Choctaw, Tchitimacha may speak French, Spanish and English but now are reclaiming their native tongue along with cultural practices publicly no matter what their DNA admixture is. Its apart of our Creole culture.
@barrypayton2832 Emblem of America 1798 showcases the American Indian that is found on the East Coast and through out the Americas. There were Many groups of American Indians here. That looked different with different phenotypes. This is Fed. Documented. We are Not Africans. Darkskin Indians ,so called African Americans Most of Us are from the East coast and we are Not African .. I myself are decendant of Many Tribes of the Carolinas. We as a people need to come together All Indigenous Aboriginal people of Turtle Island. Let Us Have peace and sit down and talk with respect 1 to another.
@@barrypayton2832 Has nothing to do with Africa the people they call the Aztec the Mayan the Incas are us . Civilization and the Ancient Egyptians by Katanga Bonga
@gpostallive5818 I'm of African descent from Bayou Country. There have been French and Spanish since the 17th century, which made documented writings and pictures depicted of the different Natives down here. Some were lighter and darker than others. I agree phenotypes vary from place to place, and facial features change with intermingling and intermarriage within a generation. New Orleans was a major slave port with thousands of Africans of different ethnicities imported between 1718 up until 1840, legally and illegally. And thousands of different European ethnicities were brought here to populate the swamps. There are alliances and adversaries amongst them all. Our DNA admixture tells our history down here. We have ample documented information and evidence of eventful encounters LSU, UNO, SU, Tulane, records and archives, as well as Historic New Orleans Collection and the Archdiocese of New Orleans.
Ms. Romero. I'm sure that you already know your last name alone connects you to so many different ethnicities by itself. I really appreciate you opening people's eyes to a blended culture that has been ignored for thousands of years.
The Mexica people are from this land. Their cousins were driven up into the northern forests on the east coast and were planning to return to Mexico when the settlers came to Virginia and disrupted their plans to return home.
If you’re from NM and have Jalisco roots, you’re ancestors left to colonize the north along with the Spaniards. Because the US was expanding they needed our people to stay in those lands to avoid Americans coming over. I have ancestors that left to New Mexico around late 1700’s
@@Buff247 oh so it's more recent, cool... I have ancestors from Jalisco that left to NM to populate the area around late 1700's since those areas were isolated, Spain wanted to populate the area since Americans were trespassing into New Spain...
Of course, Mexicans are Native to the so-called American continent, it's just that they were colonized by the Spanish conquistadors and adopted their language and some of their cultural attitudes and religion.
Actually Mexicans were colonized thanks to the rivalries among different tribes who paid tribute to the Aztecs and lived subjugated by them. The spanish had to get help from those tribes because there were just a few hundred of them, impossible to conquer an Aztec civilization bigger in population than any european city of that time.
If all first nations people of the western hemisphere would become detribalized then they would have no right to their lands or it's resources. Maybe this is a long term goal of colonization. Reconnecting natives should be helped as long as they are reconnecting in a good way.
Mexico: The most Spanish speaking country in the world (beats Spain 3-1). Oldest existing Capital (Mexico City) in North America; The size of Western Europe (Together, bigger than Spain, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, etc.); has more pyramids than Egypt (100's); has over 60 ethnic regions with their own Native American languages. Land of many races and ethnicity. Imagine Europe speaking only one language, well, that's possible in Mexico. Research it for assurance.
This is new to me. But I'm Mexican American born from immigrants here in the USA. Being the first generation here, I guess I wasn't exposed to the hate against Natives among Latinos. I was always taught that as Latinos, we are Mestizo, a mix of Native and European. It was never a point of pride or shame, just a matter of fact. It's funny that people point fingers at colonization, but are more than happy to allow pop culture's trends to erase their own heritage.
A buddy of mine is from Mexico (looks veeeery stereotypically Mexican), he told me that going to Spain was going to the Motherland. Before this, I never would've thought that Mexicans believed they were an extension of White Europeans.
@RT878 no, Americans know what Spaniards look like- they look like the white boogie man that leftist screech about when they talk about the original sin of "Whiteness"
Because Mexico first started as New Spain.( Nueva Espan'a) It stayed as Madre Patria but no sensible Mexican thinks of Espan'a as " mother land" . Especially now that we have a Tabasco Native ( Amlo) as Prez thats calling out the Spanish Energy companies for their ruthless price gouging . No patriotic Mexican calls Spain the Motherland nowadays
Well your buddy was probably delusional as there are many descendants of Spanish immigrants who do look European but if you don’t then well it’s just weird hahah but then again there are so many people in Mexico that want to be white than I’d understand
Para acabar pronto, los Mexicanos somos Americanos porque México esta en el continente Americano, somos Norteamericanos porque México esta en Norteamerica, en su mayoría los Mexicanos somos Mestizos, porque somos mezcla del Español e indígena, y los indígenas Mexicanos son nativo americanos, como cualquier indígena que haya nacido en este continente, desde Alaska hasta la tierra de fuego, osease el termino Americano no es exclusivo de EU, porque América es todo nuestro continente y no solo EU.
He also needs to honor his parents who abandoned him, and the white guys who paid for his upbringing and saved him. In time I could see this young man be profoundly culturally wise beyond most or all for his backgrounds. That said allot victim mindset in there too. A strong masculine father typically stops the low key whining energy regardless of race and backgrounds. Regarding white being superior, it’s superior as compared to what?? For years I thought Chinese were superior because I valued meditation, kung fu, and Chinese art. Over time I learned to appreciate my own roots like the Chinese typical appreciate their roots. That said, whites having invented so much physical items based to some extent on loosing their pagan roots via Middle Eastern Christianity and hyper focusing their lives in a particular way resulted in a massive proliferation of physical abundances. I’m 1/2 white and we lost so much of our old language, dances, magick systems, and culture of tribe due to eradication of heathen and pagan traditions. We all can look at another group of people and become overly impressed and think our selves less then. If you over value basketball you might then hyper inflate black bb stars and feel your extremely short and possibly genetically non gifted in height and fast twitch fiber strength. Genetics are not permanent. We all can change and become new. Yet genetics has some effects. What’s normal but sad is judging the book by its cover. It’s a fact for most people planet wide. Books are literally sold based on cover art I think it’s 60%. Then author then content ect. We often do the same with races, religions, groups, sexes, ect ect. Some of the stereo types help us and some hurt us. It’s the collective lies and the collective truths. Chinese parents tend to push their kids in math, doesn’t mean all Chinese are good at math, right? But allot are. More cultural thing, but a culture thing held for 1,000 + years…? Yes it affects us some how. My Lebonese side is know for being business and middle men. To be slick sellers, and tricky… Today the richest man in Mexico is Lebonese, owning the tele com business. Doesn’t mean all Lebonese are like this. But all my family members own business and hustle hard. The huge 20 unit theatre by my house is Lebonese led and owned. And one of my sisters hustles $20m of business thru local airport while the other smokes drugs and lives on boat you can’t stand up on and steals and robs everyone she can, haha. Sad but true. Same on my Jewish side success wise and failure wise. But non whites will see this and assume, if they mix with us, it ups their line. I had a Latina chick literally do this for her 2nd kid cus Im literally lite tan / caramel colored ect… and she wanted as she put it, one beautiful baby (pretty ect) in her desired brood of 5-6. She had 1,000% love and respect for her prior kid, and future kids… but she desired one that blinged a look she thought super physically appealing, so she hit me up back in the day. I was so liberal at the time haha it’s crazy. So yeah hubby didn’t know. No genetic testing at the time. Wild really. . That view is the same in Thailand. It may have some truth but it’s not true per se. if non burn able skin was popular right now, the whole lighter races of people would be clamoring to mix with darker people any chance they could… It all depends on what we all are valuing. Whites represent 15% of global population. Whites are a minority globally speaking as 15% is smaller number then 85%.. no? It automatically makes whites rare genetically near everywhere. The blue eyes even more so. Some whites from India 🇮🇳 have blue and green eyes. And are more cherished in India than black Indians. Both white and black Indians have zero European blood. It’s the rare looks that inspire. What ever is more rare… does it not have more curb appeal? That’s not a superior thing, it’s a rare thing. I personally find Chinese women with green or blue eyes ultra mind blowing. Russian women in Siberia tend to mixed with Mongolians and northern Chinese and can have this rare look. What human could not be impressed with rare look like this? How many more would not want their kid to have some of this what we call it exotic beauty? The real problem is not valuing ourselves. That’s the crux of the problem. It’s not the beauty in the other race, or hight, or what their ancestors did… it’s our own self value the gives us comfort and immunizes us from non helpful comparisons. Lastly i am American 1st. Too much emphasis on race is divide and conquer jail prison consciousness. We’re not in prison… we can co-mingle and self appreciate / other appreciate. While this talk is important and based on much truth, I felt like the talking is from 100-200 years ago. Whites don’t care about being superior. Like 95%+ dgaf about anything like this or that. It’s a non issue. We’re busy appreciating others difference (go along to get along), trying to pay rent(survive / prosper), and hoping others learn our cultural nuances too and to be treated equally by poc rather then fetishized and or despised. I think it’s culture. In one culture eye contact is showing kindness and respect, so too is saying hello with a wave. Often white. But in another culture that’s invasive, scary, and terribly burdensome.. often Latino. When both are raised in one way and then meet each other… neither knows this so they naturally repel each other. We both then feel butt hurt or upset. And no bad will was there on either side. We can tell stories about how we’re then disrespected… but it’s factually untrue even when we feeeeeeel it’s profoundly true. Feelings are not facts. Some feeling are intuition, but not always. How do I know? It’s happened to me, and I eventually learned the other culture / races preferred way of subtly communicating. I’m an outlier. Few can communicate truly and adapt there ways to multi cultural subtle nuances. Rarely have others done this for me. Why? It’s rare talented human who can do this. But a few have… and these few are often profoundly wise in the ways of humanity!! Anyone who read this much… I hope you have a truly great day , feeling confident and loved ❤🤍💙. Cheers. OG, SF, Native Born 90’s liberal, haha today’s new center right independent hombre. Trump 2024 = no new wars, cheeper food, mean tweets, funny commentary, and less crime. I’m a big fan of less crime. Lost my best homie Angel Rosado 10/28/2023 SF on Octavia / Market Street via stabbing, helping a woman who was being harmed and drugged up meth man ex lost control… Loose boarder = hella drugs and hella crime. Nothings perfect. But too much is too much. 😞
I fully agree with Gabriel! I can't stand the term Hispanic, I don't have any ties to Spain to call myself Hispanic or Latino and my culture is Mexican culture!!! Gabriel can tell you that the name Mexico and Mexican comes from the Mexica tribe who spoke Nahuatl. In the writings of Bernal Diaz del Castillo who was Hernan Cortez man that kept the records or dairies. In those writings Bernal Diaz mentioned the word "mejicanos" with a J because in the spanish alphabet there wasn't a letter with the sound like "Mesheeka" for" mexica" in Nahuatl so Cortez named them "Mejicanos" thats were the name of Mexico and Mexicans comes from! Gabriel knows this, I'm sure. In Mexico there are 68 languages spoken and Spanish is the formal language of Mexico, the other 67 languages are indigenous!!! Nahuatl and Maya being the dominant native languages, and that's not counting the dialects that are spoken. Here's another fact, the Spanish spoken in Mexico has hundreds of words that derived from native languages and are not Spanish words as Gabriel is familiar with. Indians are from a country in Asia named India. Indigenous, native or "Pueblos Originarios" original people is the correct term! I could go on but I will leave it here for now. The way i look at it, the true Mexicans are all native people from Mexico due to the fact that the term Mexico or Mexicans come from an indigenous group of native people. My parents were from Mexico and my grandparents and their parents and so forth, so I consider myself as a Mexican and that's all it matters to me. I don't know anyone in Spain never been there and that term was coined in the USA.
Being born in TX 1960 I'm a proud Tejano American, no more no less than american than any white, black,red, yellow person, not hispanic. I don't think we originate from Hispania 🤔🤷
In Mexico's census you are not asked what you are categorized by the government or any other associations! You are asked if you are Indigenous and what native language you speak if any. So, it doesn't matter what somebody categorize you as and what Federico Navarrete thinks or says he does not represent or think for the Indigenous groups in Mexico.
History as told in America makes imperialism sound like a product imported by Europeans. In reality, many indigenous empires existed in pre-Hispanic Mexico. The last the Aztec ones. Tribes subjugated by the Aztecs were subjected to slavery and colonialism. In fact, it was the leaders of these tribes who led the handful of Spaniards engaged in the conquest. Again they supplied the indigenous armies. And this is so true that there were indigenous leaders appointed nobles by the king of Spain, who bestowed titles and lands on them. They evidently preferred to be under the new regime than under the Aztecs. The same thing was repeated elsewhere with the Incas, who had also been imperialists. In addition, the sons of Spanish nobles and an indigenous noblewoman were in many cases recognized as nobles and retained lands in Spain. As for tribalism, should its overcoming be seen as a defeat? Perhaps that still tribal lands have made a greater contribution to the development of humanity than not tribal lands? I have my doubts. As for the billboard of various ethnic mix results, it should be pointed out that it is not Mexican or even Central American. It was produced elsewhere in South America for other societies like the colombian or the peruan. From 1503 Spanish royalty ordered the governor of Hispaniola (Cuba), Nicolás de Ovando, to arrange mixed marriages with the aim of converting one side or the other, and so mixed marriages were legalized as early as 1514 because rank was more important than ethnicity, so much so that Cortés had a great many of his officers marry noble Indian women. Thus a Creole caste of even high status was born. It is true that for a brief period there was an attempt to assign public offices preferably to fully European Spaniards, but this soon proved impossible. So great care must be taken not to view Mexico through the U.S. lens.
Well said. Reading other comments, and typical across many videos, is a singular world view, that has little room for nuance, specially when the options are not good and bad, black and white. But the good news is, there are 100s of years of books, and birth, baptism, marriage, and death records, that speak for themselves. There's netflix history, and then there's history.
nobody "contributed" more gold and silver along with most of the foods in the world and sports with the idea of freedom to europe than the Indigenous Americans.
Remember this is history that justifies colonialism. Try going to the communities that were subjugated by colonialism. Being indigenous is not about race. Race is a colonial construct designed to divide people. Someone that enables and supports racism is not indigenous.
Mexican is like being American. it is where you are from. It's not a race. What most people think of as "mexicans" are Native and Spaniard or Native and French. I'm Apache and Spaniard. I find here in California that the Natives here get mad when people think they are "Mexican". They look at Mexicans as beneth them.
I'm from theNavajo tribe of N.M. Yes, I think Mexicans and South Americans are native Americans. They had their own native language and cultures. We all used to travel long ways to trade coffee, gems, jewelry, foods in the past. Traveling from North to South America to trade before the Spaniards came and colonized us all in the America's. This is how Mexicans learned Spanish. In the past they spoke Inca's, Aztec's, Mayan's and many other tribes had their own native language before colonized.
thank you for commenting! I used to teach on the Diné Rez in New Mexico. NM is my favorite place in the country
You all didn't trade coffee before the Spanish arrived 😂
Are you navajo or are from thier reservation? Its a big difference, The Navajo are not original to our land, In fact ancestors of ours knew the Mexican was our peoples thought we fought them, But knew the Navajo came from someplace else though we got along with them. I'm sure thought since you were labeled Apache you took in many of our peoples. But i would be interesting to find out why our ancestors spoke such things. From what i gathered Navajo came from another land & intermixed with others of our peoples but not originally of our peoples. Like from Asia or something? Though what i know of Navajo it indeed does seem to be of our peoples, However thier is also rumor's that over time they have stolen bits & pieces of other tribes beliefs. But I have not found any evidence of that. Shallawam Shallom Ayo Hawwah Great Spirit Bless.
Thanks brotha!
From what I understand, there was a language called Classic Maya. I don't know much about it.
Yes, there are Indigenous Americans throughout the Western Hemisphere. There's a strong Indigenous presence in Mexico.
You're right, and Mexico (the government) and Mexican people treat them like garbage. A lot of discrimination towards them.
When I went to cancun and got a tour of the pyramids, we saw the indigenous Mayans, and Oxacans get treated low class. They truly rough it out there 100 percent of the time in the jungle, roofs are rare.. 0.o
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Yeah, but this was long ago, you killed Americans when you where expanded to the west, It's not the same now
Theres a movement of Black Americans pushing the notion that the Olmec, Mayan and Mexica are black 🤢@@antoineleedolliole7549
What’s the name of your tribe?
I unintentionally ended a friendship four decades ago when I said you look Indigenous to me. She was a US citizen born and raised here having parents both from Mexico. I did not know until that time how discriminated Indigenous people are treated in Mexico. I always believed people should be honored to have Indigenous blood flowing in their veins.
Growing up going to an all white school in the US I may have been offended as well because people were blatantly racist towards me for being brown.
It is definetly important how you say indigenous or refer to it. As some people feel like you are telling them they are less than since many Mexicans are not in a tribe. So saying you look indiginous translates you are a native indigenous person. For some people its a sensitive topic. Its all about the context and also the individual person this is said to.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 the American Indians
well, when they are all raised with european beliefs and languages they usually teach you to hate the Natives.
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I’m happy to see this kind of discussion taking place.
My Mother in law , who died a couple of years ago , She was born 100 years ago in Northern New Mexico . We did her DNA test before she died. She claimed 100% Spanish . She had only 12 % Spanish , She was 68 % Native DNA
Did she appear Spanish (European)? Also, sorry for your loss 🙏🏾😔
I guess some of them don't believe that there were already Natives in Mexico before Spain colonized Mexico.
Yo, these wife's note the true devil. They have to separate every call to this, not ghost like them. Ghost of a color like them.
Ditto.
When the Spaniards came to Mexico the ships didn't bring many Spanish women. So when people from New Mexico and Southern Colorado state they are 100% Spanish, I mention this to them. Plus in Spain there are log books of the people who came on these vessels and there were few women listed in there.
Mexican is not an ethnicity, it is a nationality. The same with every nation.
Mexican is a race and Mexico is a nation. Mexicans have their own ethnicity. Do some research
@@kima3565Mexican is a race??? Since when? I was taught there are only 3 races: black, white, and Asian.
A considerable proportion of Mexico is Indian (of the type indigenous to the Americas) or part Indian.
I've long heard that many of the Indians of Mexico loudly say that they are NOT Hispanic/Latino and that Spanish, in ANY form, is not their language.
@@kima3565that can't be true because some Mexicans are black some are white some are Chinese. Mexicans are every race.
💯 Mexican is a nationalist with many ethnicities , Mexico has 27 native tribes , German , Irish , Spanish, Jewish/ middle eastern ,African, and plenty of mixtures of people , the majority are mixed race just like the rest of central and South America 🥂
Not only do Mexicans have indigenous blood. They had the greatest and most powerful native tribe of the western hemisphere
There were plenty Chichimecas too
Tamahuras Yaqui Apache Comanche
Otomí .Also the Aztecas were originally from Utah not many people know that
but yeah they were a North American
Tribe .
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Mexico is north America you retard
No Please dont ruin my Aztec Statues Pictures with UTAH 😂 You have put a virus of truth in my brain 😮
@@surgej007 Los Mesheekas Aztecs
Were the first Chicanos
This was a very interesting topic , when I was younger sometimes I felt confused and lost,I was raised in San Diego around a lot of Mexicans learned how to cook some Mexican foods-dated and married a Mexican man ,I am very mixed myself,native yes from South America, Peruvian and Venezuelan, mothers grandma had blue eyes and blond hair ,dads grandma brown skin indigenous Peruvian never felt I fit in any specific racial group,but you are so right we have to educate ourselves about our cultures it’s really important to know your roots and more than anything about empathy and loving your neighbor as you love yourself .❤
That last part really needs to be highlighted it’s funny I actually felt the same way I don’t feel comfortable around white people or even welcomed sometimes even though I was born and raised in the USA even in dating I just feel comfortable around my ethnic group of people it’s interesting how segregation really affects us , in Mexico I’m called American but in USA I’m called Mexican lol regardless I love both countries
So what do you look like? White? I see you have a white last name…
Mexicans are named after thr Mexica People, an Indigenous People who were the biggest ethnic group in Aztec Empire
@TheJosmanWhat do you mean imposed? Iturbide declare the independence and everyone in the territory no matter color,flavor or size became Mexican.
"Aztec empire"
The Aztecs did not exist... they were called Mexicas... "Aztecs" is a myth
@TheJosman Which state?
@@LaberintoAzul They became nationalist and withheld their caste system, which was created to further divide and conquer people. Reconnected indigenous people aren’t actually “free” and are always living in extremely poor conditions. Indigenous people everywhere have the highest poverty rates.
@@WALKINGPHONE You’re giving colonists more credit than they deserve. You can ask any connected indigenous person in MX, or indigenous scholars. The term ‘Aztec’ to refer to the empire was around much longer than the term ‘Mexica’. They were an empire that consisted of seven tribes. What we know now as the ‘Mexicas’ is one of them.
A large percentage of "Latino's" are of the Native American race/s. The United States government is aware of this, and does their best to have people of Native American descent immigrating to the U.S. identify as "Latino" and have the U.S. population see them as such. This is done in part to artificially reduce the population of Native Americans and reduce their political strength.
Conspiracy theory. Stop trying to sow division.
@@briancole7024 Conspiracy theory or not, those are the consequences of the government's disparate treatment of people of native descent. I'm not sowing division, I'm explaining why there is division between people of Native American descent from the United States and from the United States and those of Native American descent from south of the border.
"Native American Race" 😂, What race are you, the European Race? 😁
@@hugoramirez6698 What's your point? Do you even have one?
@@MRXYZ1ER Yes, I have a race, the human race, what about you, are you a human or a martian, what about a sayan, are you a sayan boy?
Mexican who has always lived and embraced my indigenous lineage and ancestors. ❤
100 :)
I’m a Mestiza and I’m so proud of every part of my ancestry
The indigenous are the jews from the tribe of issachar
❤❤❤❤ Me too
For a long time, I had it, coming to AMERICAN does that, racism is real, so I tried to be as much American as possible. I am proud again, I am apache. My grandmother was Indian from jalisco m exico. I finally did research and found my roots via my gradmothers side.
Purépecha!!💪👑 Dont let anyone take away your indigenous heritage!
PUREPECHA NATION
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Ahuevo Los de Michoacán I'm from purapecha heritage too my mom's dad was from Nueva Italia michoacan
@@josuelara3453 if we delve check you ain't really Mexican.
Time to call out on Mexican nationalism BS.
Only thing's prolly you come from a broke A family.
Great conversation!
When I go to Mexico I'm considered American. When I'm in America I'm considered Mexican. When I was in the Middle East, people thought I was Arabian or Indian.
I'm okay with all of it.
Culturally, I'm American (born and raised). Genetically, I'm of Mexican Indigenous, Spanish, African, and Jewish blood.
I speak English and Spanish fluently and I've started taking French lessons.
I consider myself a citizen of the world. I've been to about 15 countries (in Asia, Latin America, and Middle East). I've always been comfortable everywhere I've been. Carry yourself with respect and you'll be treated accordingly.
I see nothing wrong with your perspective, in fact I find it a bit refreshing.
There are many have j1 J1-P58
Thier ancestors had to adopt Christianity due ethnic clearance In andulisia
I bet that people from arabian Background in Mexico more than Spanish descent
You look arab 💯
I respect everyone where he came from
Right on brother.
Creoles were of pure Euro-ancestry born in the Americas, who often had fewer rights and privileges than those born in Europe living in the Americas. This was one of the components that ignited revolution and wαך for independence of the Colonies in both North and South America. People from New Mexico are not Spanish nor are people from Louisiana, Creoles.
Mexicans are genetically a varied mix of multiple Earth people, but absolutely predominantly Native American and Iberian. We should be proud of both. Our biggest impediment as people is the psychological paralysis by analysis on this topic. Let’s own both sides proudly, develops proper self-term, and move forward.
I agree im proud to be a north american mestizo
you forgot to say spaniard in there....if it was just what you say we would may as well be called native indians ....or indigenious if you so proud and the first one is not good enough for you...
@@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck spaniards are iberian.
@@pipeflush ok european iberians
Proud that the colonizers came and took your land and abused your people? Indoctrination is a real thing.
There are more native American languages spoken in Mexico than in the USA. Yes, Mexican natives are of American roots.
That would include Nahuatl.
I'm proud my children have a large Otomi heritage from my husband's side. Their DNA test through Ancestry showed 47% - 49% Otomi and Chichimeca. My husband seems not to care, but I do. I can't wait to visit Querétaro and meet his family and the community there. I am learning a few things in Hnahnu and Nahuatl just in case I by chance get to meet anyone who still speaks those languages. The small town he is from mostly speaks Spanish, but I've read many online books about the surrounding areas that still speak indigenous languages.
I love that my children have a connection to the indigenous of Mexico.
My ancestors are from Scotland and Ireland and I think that's cool too. I hope to learn a few things in Gaelic as well, and I read a few things about the mysterious ancient Picts.
@@pdcdesign9632 Absolutely.
@annasalmans5523
I've always believed everyone should be proud of their heritage. This world is like a giant patchwork quilt, and every part is interesting and unique.
Yes, because Mexico is in America! Duh! Lol
I am Sauk, Shawnee, and Muskogee. I always tell my Muskogee mom she is mexican because their peiple originate from the louisiana georgia and florida area. Some villages within the tribe actually had Aztec names and words, so I’m sure that either those words were preserved or a group of aztecs came and settled within our tribe. Doing research in a class I found stories talking about the migration of people from the Mexica area, who didn’t agree with the customs, to the north area. My Shawnee tribe apparently was known to have representatives travel across the whole United States (in this case, the great lakes to the gulf of mexico) and helped the Muskogee establish their first town. Though we spoke the same language by the time the colonizers came, there is definitely a chance that the Muskogee came to what is now the U.S. long after the Shawnee. My muskogee grandfather was a good amount shorter than me, so maybe he was related to one of the tribes in Mexico lol
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My 23/me didn’t say I was Mexican, it stated Indigenous to the Americas and is lit up from Jalisco to New Mexico.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 . Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade
@@gew2027So what are you trying to say?
Yep many people in Mexico have more than one native group in their ancestry. Before the 1680 Pueblo Revolt the Spanish were sending New Mexican Pueblo Indians to the silver mines in Mexico as slaves.
@@tbrown4080 Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade
my 23 is fake
I’m so glad you guys talked about this! This was so necessary and very informative. Unfortunately, It’s difficult to find people who are interested and passionate about this topic.
Because it's all bs, us Mexicans are Hispanics period, and we should be proud of our Hispanic heritage, viva Mexico y viva la Madre patria España
I'm interested, I love learning about native culture as well, but let's be real too, scientifically in Mexico paternal haplogroups are predominantly european, about 60-70% come from european haplogroups, about 30% of Mexico's paternal haplogroups are Indigenous, Our maternal haplogroups are predominantly native, but they adopted most of our forfather's cultures. If you think about it, everything we love about Mexico today is predominantly hispanic and adopted elements of our mother's native culture, So in reality we are mestizo and culturally more hispanic.Nothing wrong with that, it's how we evolve as species.
People from Mexico are indigenous and YES we fall into the Native American group
@@pomextravelador9151 The USA ~ DO NOT count us as Native-American ~ whatsoever!
Then stop putting bunches mayonesa on your corn. That's a sin. 😇👍🏽
Mexicans, like the rest of the Hispanic American population, are mostly mestizo, with a high percentage of pure natives; only 18% of the population in the Spanish Empire is exclusively white and it depends so much on the country, so no, you are aborigines in some percentage and whites in another, only some of you fall into the aborigen group (not native, natives are all).
@pomextravelador9151 INCORRECT! We are Mestizos ~ in general half - European & Half Indigenous-Mexican
@@colinchampollion4420 sorry, but you are the one who is incorrect.... We are talking about the people who lived in the area we now call Mexico before colonization.
Don't try to separate nor diminish our Native American heritage! I know that a few modern people in Mexico are ashamed and embarrassed of our brownness and wish they could call themselves Spaniards. Some people wish they had fair skin.
Every ethnic group, tribe or nation that lived in what we now call North America, Central America, the Caribbean and South America, they are all Native American.
Don't try to separate Native American vs MesoAmerican. We are the same people, we have the same ancestors... That was all about dividing us and conquering us.
With Colonization and mass migration, from the Middle East like the Lebanese to more present Asian groups, in 2024 some of us will have mix blood line, is only natural. Even the Spaniards weren't pure European.
There is NO half European and half indigenous.... That is absurd
My wife is fair skin, green eyes and her last name is Moctezuma. Guess what? Her DNA test results came back 70% Native American, 20% Iberian peninsula and the rest were a punch of different places.
My DNA test came back, 90% Native American, 5% Arabian peninsula and 5% Irish... Don't know how that happened.
Most of the modern Mexican people will have other blood mix in, which is why you said we are Mestizo. But not all Mexican people have the same level of European blood. Some Mexican people will have 100% or close to Native American lineage.
In conclusion, people with ancestry from Mexico are Native American.
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Wow, I'm constantly blown away at how you out do yourself with each new interview. I truly feel like a student in a "world classroom." Danielle thank you for bring these subjects out into open for through and honest discussion. I appreciate you. Gabriel Clark-Faust is young man searching and learning his truth and willing to share it with others. I've always seen people of Mexican heritage as also Indigenous people, so happy to see this discussed. We all become greater with these explorations. Thank you.
Wow, thank you! You always fill me up with the kindest words, thank you for being here
@@nytn It's easy to do. Positive light seeks positive light. Keep up the great research you are connecting and restoring history. I appreciate the space that you've created.
I basically agree with seeing Mexican as indigenous but many that come from the Northen most Mexican states like Chihuahua will often have a good amount more European Spanish or at least a little more European Spanish ancestry than they do Native.
What do you know of Ms.Fanny loo I love that woman!
Yea fasho we the same all my life Mexicans the older ones my homies fathers and grandparents etc would say “me and you same color” or “we are Apache” or “we have the same blood” ✊🏾
My moms super white but she did a 23and me and turns out she’s 60% indigenous from Central America. (We come from El Salvador). Genetics is so fascinating
Mine too. Lol. It’s weird that most North Americans don’t believe that indigenous Central American people are Native American. They think the US border created a different race.
@@JFoster310 hahahahaha right?
What’s funnier is that Anglos who created all this mess think all “white” peoples are a monolith.
Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks and Slavs are some of THE most racially mixed Europeans ever. Not to mentioned the most accustomed to living with other races.
My great grandma born in Northern Mexico, looks like your average white Midwestern American. Turns out her mtDNA is Native American (a2a4 - Apache/Navajo). Discovered that her ancestors were Spanish settlers in New Mexico who mixed with local indigenous people. It’s just the offspring kept reproducing with the Spanish side and so there’s more European features than Native, however mtDNA doesn’t change at all when passed from mother to children :)
My mom was from Honduras. She was white and had blue eyes and red hair from her Spanish heritage and she was a tiny 4 foot 11 inches tall from her indigenous heritage. She was the fourth generation born in Honduras. I was born in Nicaragua.
@@JFoster310 Technically speaking, Mexico is a part of North America. I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't know that.
@@gringo3002 Not technically, it its North American country. But the average American is dumb as rocks in the areas of race, nationality, ethnicity, and geography.
I find this conversation incredibly interesting when you also consider how many times our man-made borders have changed. Our DNA does not adhere to these borders. Personally, I think it’s most valuable how people and cultures define themselves, and I love to listen.
Yes these borders have changed so much. my family used to be in "mexico" then the border changed and it became Texas. They had not moved haha
@@nytnwe didn’t cross the border border crossed us 🤎💪🏽🇲🇽🇺🇸🌵🏜️
Just like the Middle East and Africa.
European Empires almost always carve out borders in straight lines. Look at Mali/Niger/Algeria borders. They're straight lines going through deserts and grass plains.
Middle East, Pakistan/India, Yemen all have pretty straight borders which disregards the habitants.
@@nytn can you explain how indigenous people started to become pale. Can you explain why all Latinos have a claim to be indigenous but they some how escaped being put on reservations
@@truthserum6672 reservations happened in america, not mexico. If your family has more indigenous ancestry south of the border, like mine, you wouldnt have that
Thanks…informative as a Mexican Sicilian Italian American lol your channel helped me realize I’m not alone.
The Sicilians and Italians are Gs to bad rest of Europe looks down on them as blacks well they used to back in days
That is a beautiful dna mix!
I am Mexican born but with indigenous ancestry I am Apache of the Tarahumara people of chihuahua I have visited the Apache reservation in Arizona I feel a strong connection to our cousins on the American side and the Mexican side because we are the same people I do feel American 🇺🇸 but at the same time I know I’m Mexican and I know these lands used to be Mexico 🇲🇽 so I do feel at home and proud of my indigenous heritage of chihuahua.
As you should. I've told my three children to always be proud of their Mexican/Indigenous heritage.
That is so amazing. I have Aztec ancestry. Hello to all my brothers and sisters and cousins:)
Another thing how did the Mexican vaquero learn his trade of being a cowboy, he learned it from his Indian brother's. I'm Yaqui and proud of my indigenous ancestry.
you feel american because everybody in the Americas is American.....from chile and peru to the united states ...america is not a country its a continent and there is many countries in the americas just like there is many countries in europe...no matter what country people are from in europe they are still europeans ...
Anyone belong to ancient civilization would never attribute himself to colonizers unless if he came from countries like black Dominicans or Venezuela or Salvador poor history and civilization
I'm very indigenous, my mother understands Nahua however hasnt spoken it since she left mexico and therefore lost the tongue, from what she has said. However i refuse to believe it since she never brought it up or mentioned that fact to me. I learned through an aunt.
My grandmother from my moms side, spoke Nahua, her old photos, straight up indigenous. From Southern Veracruz, bordering Oaxaca.
My uncles on my moms side speak Nahua and communicate with Otomi tribes.
However even with all this, I used to hate my indigenous features. Growing up in EEUU I got bullied until 18 for being indigenous looking, always being the butt end of a joke
However you wanna call it, I got bullied for getting personal and or trying to recognize my indigenous roots. So i just always kinda kept it in the back ground. I didnt learn about my Nahua connections till I turned 21 because I realized how important it really is and integral it is to my mothers family identity.
With all this being said, Indigenous Mexicans are natives and you should always be proud of your indigenous roots and vo back to Mexico if you have indigenous roots and please learn from your grandmothers jf you can. Or grandfathers.
Also my grandmother was proof to me that Indigenous featurs are beautiful. She had strong indigenous roots. Someone loved her enough to create a family. Boom, made me realized my grandpa loved her and created my mom who then created me.
What did you use to learn Nahuatl?
Awesome bro. My girlfriends moms side of the family is also from Oaxaca. It’s dope to see her learning about it more and more.
I hope you learn some nahuatl, and if you travel to Mexico you can use it.
These southern American tribes are dying out fast, and learning as much about your culture is critical before the only sources of information are dead.
Kwali tonali!
Peninsulares were the people born in Spain. The children of spaniards born in Mexico are criollos. The mixed race of spaniard and indigenous are the mestizos, indigenous and black were called zambos. I learned that in elementary school, second or third grade in Mexico. I'm 62 now.
That's true except with the zambos.
Indigenous + Black = "Mulatos"
Some Mexicans are mestizos others are just Native American, or just Spanish, I happen to be 50% Spanish/basque so Iam a mestizo
@kinglisco1379 and some are black, you left that out.
@@LibraYall all Mexicans usually have some % of African from west African slaves, imported into Mexico
@@LibraYall1.5% perhaps are black
I was born in Mexico, my mother was Mexican-Italian, my father was French- Italian. I call myself ( Mexican Italian French) and I say that we are Aztecas. Knowing that we are not Aztecs, but it sounds good. Live in USA US citizen 71 years.. 4 years Air Force Veteran. Puro Azteca. 😂
Some Latinos think that the language they speak is the race that they are.
.....without realizing it all comes from Europe in the first place. Oops!
@StratOCasterMIJ90 No, its cultural and social standing, not racial, its just that if you stand out as obviously mexican but don't speak spanish, it's almost shameful and ignorant of your ancestry. Race and blood is integral but ultimately secondary to language and culture.
I keep telling people Hispanic means property of Spain you isralites need to wake up and read your Bible. Shalom
Don't confuse Latino with Mexican. Latino has nothing to do with Mexican.
Mexican is Mexican!
@@BeADad2447 do you believe your an isralite a descendant of issachar? Do you read your Bible?
I am enjoying your guest today! I love his research on his heritage, its refreshing to see his pride in his indigenous heritage.
Cultures are always borrowing from other cultures. "Mexican" food is indigenous, "tortilla" means something different in Spain. In the US, salsa is more popular than ketchup (ketchup comes from a Chinese term). Potatoes transformed Europe, as did corn (maise), sunflowers, squash, tomatoes, etc. We learn from each other.
The fact that Mexican food has gotten so popular in the US is recent history. Growing up in the 1980s I was introducing the majority of my white friends too authentic Mexican food for the first time in their lives.
@@azborderlands The 80's Reagan era was when Latin immigration rapidly increased. Ask any Baby Boomer and they'll agree. My old HS didn't even have a soccer team until the Late 80's.
Yeah, I had a Navajo supervisor back in the day and one lunch he brought Navajo tacos for everybody. It was pinto bean based and had a thicker bread-like tortilla.
@@MaryLou913 That sounds hella delicious.
Each season in Creole Seasoning is colour coded for the particular "races" that would make one Creole. Take a guess at who the red pepper or cayenne pepper stands for."
Yes Mexicans we are native americans descendents, we don't land on plymiuth rock, we were here before that happened
The same way Icelandics are desendents of the vikings
@@Bullboy_Adventuresand Sami or even the gealic culture being suppressed by the British
Only the brown people NOT the mexicans light skin color.. theyre racist towards the real brown Mexicans
Lies!
My dad and I went to New Mexico years ago he was very old already but i took him with me to a ski resort and when we arrived the natives embraced him like if he was one of their own and even took him with my permission to go on the rides around the ski resort while I was skiing I do believe us Mexicans are descendants of American natives too
I’m not a historian, but that makes sense, since before anyone colonized this continent, there were no imaginary lines saying, “This is Mexico, USA, Canada, etc.” Very nice story ❤
You are natives too but the difference they preserved their language while yout ancestors adopted Spanish language and religion
@@JUVENTUS299Not everyone in Mexico adopted Spanish as a language. Close to 60 indigenous languages are spoken in Mexico nowadays. Unfortunately those who don’t speak Spanish are discriminated against and their rights are violated since they comprised the most marginalized section of our society as a nation.
@LlamameJazz they should be rewarded instead of getting punished for maintaining their language and culture that connected to the land
Spanish language is nothing but the languages of colonizers stole this land and enslaved the locals and raped the natives
Any country despise it's own history. It won't go forward without the association with its past
@@LlamameJazz Once the Indigenous from New Spain lost the protection granted by the Hispanic Monarchy, they became the prime victims of the newborn Mexican Republic in 1823, this government composed mostly of members of Freemasonry, who were the ones who orchestrated the destruction of the Spanish Empire, were subordinates and agents to the British Empire and its interests, and therefore, aligned to its ideologies of racial superiority that would dominate the next 200 years until today, a power that still dominates the world, and the reason why this abuses are still committed.
I was born in Washington State but my parents are from a little indigenous village in Mexico. My mother is half indigenous since her mother was from this village but her father was from outside of the village. He was pale, light brown eyes curly hair. And the people form the village were tan, jet black straight hair. So my mother looks indigenous but she’s light skinned, curly hair light brown eyes. I always get mistaken for Asian but I think it’s because I look indigenous but inherited my grandpa’s skin tone and have indigenous eyes that look Asian. Idk I feel proud to be indigenous ❤ I feel it in my blood, I see it in the mirror. My ancestors. I look completely different than the rest of the people from the village but I see the resemblance and it’s just a beautiful thing.
Why did they leave such a "beautiful place" to have you amongst my people? 😂😂
Says alot. Are they even legal or are you an anchor baby?
@@DS-lk3txAnglo Americans are generations and generations of thief's and anchor babies😂
If your people depend on Blood Quantum, your tribe has an expiration date
WOW, never heard that, but it's something to think about
This is a valid argument- also it promotes discrimination imo
How so?
Ouch. Yet small groups of peoples need to marry out. The fragility of culture can be heartbreaking. Teach your children well. All you can do.
All "tribes" are defined by familial/blood relations, by definition. Everything else is arbitrary and meaningless. "Blood is thicker than water, or "identity"."
You got some terms mixed up. Peninsular refers to being from the "península ibérica", that is from Spain.
Criollos, not peninsulares, were the ethnic Spanish born in America (the continent).
I've met people of Mexican descent here in Arizona who fully identified as Hispanic, but looking at them, I could tell they were genetically Navajo because I've met Navajo before. They were surprised when I told them this.
😂🎉😂🎉I guess they never been off their block...
To be Hispanic is a culture.
It includes language, customs, foods, sayings, beliefs, traditions, art, a whole world of music.
So if someone tells you that they are Latino , then they are Latino, because they most identify with that and their parents did.
Be careful telling someone who “they are” because you think you know better.
It’s very offensive. They will tell you who they are culturally.
That’s why you should not tell a black person from Cuba or a Dominican that they are not Latino. They are culturally.
People might look to be a certain thing to you, but they know how they grew up.
@@nz1268 no shit, but I precisely wrote GENETICALLY.
@@nz1268firstly if you get offended if someone call you something that you are not, simply you become as ignorant as that person.
Second, people have to educate themselves to understand what is or who is Hispanic or Latino.
Hispanic is a person who is born in a country who’s mother language is Spanish, and Latino is someone who comes from a country where their language derivers from Latin.
Brazilians are Latinos but they are not Hispanic.
Being Latino or Hispanic has nothing to do with your culture or heritage, there is where you are wrong!
@@agaspiderman921 you probably have never had someone do that.
It’s offensive. Very offensive. Hope you don’t do something stupid like that. If you do, then you are stupid.
White people seem to have a habit of telling other people who they are or are not.
It messes with a person’s identity.
I m MEXICAN and we are real Americans we belong to the American continent we don’t have to cross any ocean to get here to the American continent
Half of you did your half of you is native the other half spanish sorry thats why we are La Raza
The Race that didn't exist till the spanish got here Like the Amerasians from servicemen who were in vietnam during the war, except the spanish were there for 300yrs. My sister did the 23 and me dna thing and it said native American and Iberian peninsula(spain) and a certain amount sub suharan African from the Moors (Muslims) invaded spain for 300 yrs.
But you did cross the Bering Strait
This guy is Mexican ~▪︎which is commonly Mestizo which is half European and Mexican - Indigenous. We have our own unique culture and speak an European Language. He is NOT pure Mexican ~ Indigenous if he was his hair would be very straight and thin😂🎉! His hair is very Mestizo thick 'n WAVY ~ a dead give - away😮🎉😂!
My grandfather is half native half Spanish from New Mexico. He experienced a lot of racism for being native looking from whites who simply called him a “spic.” We always said the borders moved around us!!
@user lol not all natives have straight hair…anyway he might be part Spanish somewhere distantly but what is that doing for him? He’s native, proud to be native.
The fact that two men could adopt an indigenous child and hurl racial slurs at him telling him what not to be is sickening. But as soon as somebody says some slur about their preference, then it would be victim mode…
He said ONE of the parents was racist
@@tesmith47 Yes, my point was how despicable to adopt a child of color when you are racist…What a horrible environment to be in.
And reactionaries exist across race, class, gender and sexual orientation…just b/c someone may be from a historically marginalized group doesn’t automatically bestow progressive beliefs on that person…
I had a white Mother my Father was Cherokee/ Kickapoo🪶🐻. With a little Italian-Jewish who sailed for Spain
in 1656 to Texas.) and 10% Senegal Africa. 😂 So I guess I'm a citizen of the world with a short visit on Earth.
🏴☠️ But in my reality the Earth is a prison planet. 🦅
Only two white men could adopt an indigenous child.
I am glad you are having this conversation. I pray everyone finds themselves for their future generations. Tlazokomati 🙏
Danielle, this is probably the most controversial topic you have researched and shared. Thank you Gabriel. And I hope you 2 are able to explore this subject more.
And the word coyote, what a colorful word. My uncle and father had a bar named El Coyote. And when I went to Peru, a future good friend called me cholo and I thought he was trying to start a fight with me. I can go on and on.
I am hoping she starts to delve into the most taboo of ALL subjects on this matter... RACELESSNESS... a unified, species wide, core identity founded on PSYCHOLOGICAL, not spiritual, AWARENESS. THAT, to me, is the creme de la creme of CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS. But, i have been wrong many times in my life, so... Their race[s], THEIR god[s]... THAT matters. When WE use their ideas, RELIGIONS (Latin for, "bind [back] to") and languages we THINK like them even if DEEP inside, our TRUE selves, dont want ANY part of "it". And [y]our kids FOLLOW U[S], following them.
"It is this ideological abrogation to the authority that constitutes the principal cognitive basis of obedience. If, after all, the world or the situation is as the authority defines it, a certain set of actions follows logically.
The relationship between authority and subject, therefore, cannot be viewed as one in which a coercive figure forces action from an unwilling subordinate. Because the subject accepts authority's definition of the situation, action follows willingly."
[Obedience To Authority, Stanley Milgram, 1973]
"A moral point of view too often serves as a substitute for understanding in technological matters."
[Understanding Media: The Extension of Man, Marshall McLuhan, 1964, Ch. 24: Games]
"The "Aryan Majesty" is evidently the Aryan power or state, political, social and religious. It is simply the Aryan greatness and supremacy.
...
For the infidels whom it conquers are creatures..., even, as these make it unprosperous, the annihilation of the sickness was necessary to the existence of the majesty. The existence of one involved the annihilation of the other.....
"You hardly utter a sentence of our Romance tongue, without speaking some word which was spoken in the same sense by that ancient people, ten thousand years ago or more, in the mountain-valleys which they first inhabited. You have their idiosyncrasies of thought, the same indelible characteristics of race; for you are their descendants. From them you have your excellencies & your faults, your energy, your vigor of intellect, your philosophical cast of thought, your indomitable resolution, your persistent pursuit of the object you desire to attain; from them the religious leanings & inclinations of your minds; from them your social institutions & relations, & the foundation-stones of your laws, customs, habits; from them all your philosophical & religious doctrines.
They were white men, as we are, the superior race in intellect, in manliness, the governing race of the world, the conquering race of all the races.
They called themselves Arya, the Aryans, the Warlike, or, some think, the Noble."
[Lectures of the Arya, Albert Pike, 1930, Lecture One: The Aryan Race]
All her topics are controversial to someone 😂
It depends what part of Mexico you are from but yes we Mexicans do have native American ancestory
I think the native Americans comes from either the Incas or Olmecas the Olmecas was a civilization before the Mayans and the Aztecs but they trying to say that we come from the native Americans the ones who live in the United States
Probably some descent from the Aztecs.
I'm pretty sure the Aztecs didn't use Spanish as their native language.
@TheJosmanNot many of us identify with any African ancestry, we are mainly Indigenous and European
@@SrOcelot101you conveniently know nothing of the puebla people?
Beautiful conversation... 🙏
Thanks for listening!
I am a Mexican because I was born in Mexico but my lineage is as follows my paternal grandmother was an Indian from Zacatecas my maternal great grandfather was French. I am proud of the wonderful mix that makes me who I am.😊
“The receipts of our history” make me think humanity is on some sort of recurring subscription to war and poverty and abuse. Every time things look like they might be getting better they renew the subscription.
Yes they are for the most part. What 5hey do not have is treaty rights with the Federal government .
No different than any other immigration group.
All wars are bankers wars . Then the governments use the divide and conquer and sadly its working.
Ever since the era of Bable the devil has only came to causes confusion & destruction to be divided instead of united we are all brothers & sisters... remember how the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend no matter their ethnicity or belief in faith.
Unfortunately true (and well stated). It would be nice if we could stop renewing the subscription and dooming ourselves and future generations to repeating history.
It’s true. Look at all the currently discovered cities buried over time being researched all over the globe. Literally layers of past civilizations near or under others. Amazing Deserts that were oceans or lakes… amazing cycle except things are getting worse over time.
I'm a 1st generation Mexican American natural born citizen, born and raised in Chicago. I am the youngest of 5, my other 3 siblings were born in Mexico. I and one other brother were born in Chicago. My Father is from the Mexico city, Mexico and my mother is from Michocan, Mexico. On my Father's side my grandfather is a Spainiard who served as Dr. In the Army in Mexico. I served in the United States Army from 1990 to 2009 and my son was born in Germany. My son's mother is Welch, Irish and English but born in the United States. My daughter's mother is 100% Puerto Rican born in Brooklyn, NY. Guys most of us are from somewhere right? We should be proud of our lineage and ancestors and embrace our unique identity. We should however be loyal to our country and its Constitution. We need to force our government to remove from the Census the question that's asks us to state if we're white, latino, black or asian. We are American and we are United. They need to stop dividing us. Sorry for the rant.
What a joke!! I bet you it's idiots like you that claim cultures are ment to be shared?? You have no clue what your ethnicity is!!! You think Puerto Rico is an ethnicity or a group of people???? What kind of education is this??? The hell do they learn up north?
Sorry but the white man's government doesn't represent me. I'm Tigua and we were here before the white man's government and will be here after it collapses.
WELL SAID!
The Taino Indians (Arawak Indians) and the Carib Indians are the native people of the Caribbean islands where Puerto Rico is located. The natives were there first, then Europeans (mostly Spaniards) came in the late 1400s to control Puerto Rico and Spanish is the dominant language there to this day. West Africans and Central Africans were brought in later during slavery. In the Caribbean islands that were controlled by the British, some Europeans, East Asians and South East Asians were brought in as indentured workers when slavery ended but they were taken to the English-speaking territories.
I got in an argument with a native american woman disrespecting a mexican guy calling him a wetback and I told her she was wrong and don't say this because I don't like no racial slurs and they are indigenous and she told me they aren't. Before colonization there weren't any borders and turtle island was all one huge land mass. I am a black man who also have cherokee and blackfoot roots and I couldn't understand that just because you are raised on a reservation you are the only one who can call your self indigenous or native american.
That's how it works in the US, in Mexico it's much harder to be native. You have to speak the language, wear the clothes, live the culture, and reject modernity. That's why you won't actually find Mexican natives online, those are children of natives that left the tribe but still speak some of the language. Natives in Mexico 😂 😂😂 rarely identify as Mexican, or speak Spanish.
She needs to learn how the Uto-Aztecan language goes back to even the plains indians. Heck, many "Native Americans" inter-marry with "Mexicans" in the SouthWest. Navajo/Dine folks (certain bands) marry the "Mexican" people.
This is interesting because my 86 year old mother had her dna checked for ethnicity and it listed a couple of towns in Mexico so i started to do her ancestry. Come to find out she only had two and a half generations come from Mexico, but before Mexico we found out that she's a descendant of california mission indian Luiseno band. We are shocked.
My cousin found out that my fathers material side is also California Native American Serrano we couldn't find past two years of records in Mexico
either.. why are we being told we are Mexican?
Probably because at one time California to Colorado was part of Mexico, but before that it was part of Spain.
Hello ! what DNA test did you use for ethnicity?
This is a much needed a coversation. I have met several people who will dispute that most of the Hispanic community are indigenous. They don't even know our linage and will argue it for dominance of the conversation. Its very frustrating when you actually know how long you have been on your native soil and terrain, just for someone else across the country to yell at you... Saying you are wrong!
This is the first step. Educate! ❤
Alot of us hispanics are mestizos or mixed with indigenous tribes from Mexico and Spanish or Portuguese blood.
We are Hispanics period, and we should be proud of our Hispanic heritage
@@jaym.4611 and many with african blood too
@@gustavosandoval4480 Hispanic is not a race.
@@gustavosandoval4480yes we are Hispanic but that label doesn’t apply the same to many of the European descendent as well as to the descendants of natives as well as the Africans. It is much more complicated than just “Hispanic” and some of us are proud of those roots we share; like the menonitas that still speak in German; to My Great Grandfather being indigenous and speaking his language.
I am puerto rican, Portuguese and African American. I get alot of hate for the fact that I was raised by my black side. I have little to no knowledge of my Latino side. My grandfather was African American and ward of state. He was raised by a white family. My grandma Portuguese and black. My grandma knew Portuguese but all those traditions died with her. My dad's side is the Puerto rican side and I met that side a bit later and never fully felt apart of it. I'm so saddened that I don't know my roots. What I've learned is through history. It's been a rough road. I am rather light skinned. So when I say I'm black I'm met with jokes questioning my identity. That the only black thing about me is my hair. The colorism over colonialism has always been there in my life. This video has resonated with me.
Hello, I am Black, Italian, Portuguese and Native American
Latin/Latino is the language spoken by the Romans. It's not a "Side" and not your heritage. Maybe you mean Latin American but Latin American is not a Race so look for a better definition.
Every person on earth is mixed , except the Africans from africa. Mexicans are different mixtures, of natives & Europeans. There are different tribes of natives Americans in Mexico,not just Aztec. During the European invasion different kinds of Europeans arrived not just the Spanish or English. So Mexicans are an Admixture of Indians and European. We are not exactly a 50/50 mix. We can have 80/20 mix , I'm 70 % native American ,20% Spanish, and 10% a few other different peoples.
@@Erik-ct6ug amen! thanks for this tidbit of truth!
Your Mom was Sephardic Jews, all from Portugal /Spain what was Iberia. You said African only because of the blackness of the Jews of Portugal and not because an African slave was captured in Ghana. If you want know your mother’s history read this book, Jews and Muslim in British Colonial America. For most Americans, the story of their nation’s origins seems safe, reliable and comforting. We were taught from elementary school that the United States was created by a group of brave, white Christians drawn largely from England who ventured to these shores in search of religious freedom and the opportunity to fulfill their own destiny. Recent revisions to this idealized and idyllic narrative have never seriously questioned its basic tenets. So although we now recognize some of the contributions made by Africans to America’s success and feel perhaps a heightened sense of regret, remorse and even guilt over the destruction of American native cultures, we never have had much reason to doubt the basic premise of the story. Our founding mothers and fathers were white, Christian and British.
In this work, we present a series of Colonial documents, contemporary firsthand accounts, records, portraits, family genealogies and ethnic DNA test results which fundamentally challenge the national storyline depicting America’s first settlers as white, British and Christian. We postulate that many of the initial colonists were of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish ancestry. Usually arriving as crypto-Jews with their religious adherence disguised, and crypto-Muslims, these immigrants served in prominent economic, political, financial and social positions in all of the original colonies.
The evidence in support of this radical new narrative begins with an examination of the British colonial companies organized in England to bring settlers to North America and exploit the natural riches believed to be there.
Of course, both Spain and France had already made forays into North America, founding St. Augustine and exploring parts of the coastline as far north as Newfoundland, though their activities as foreign powers are given short shrift in our Anglo-centric version of the birth of America. What is even less frequently mentioned regarding these Spanish and French settlements and voyages is that many of the colonists and sailors were of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish descent. Several of those aboard Christopher Columbus’s first voyage in 1492 and famously even Columbus (Colon) himself were of Jewish ancestry. They were Jews or crypto-Jews.
One historian of Inquisitional Spain and biographer of Christopher Columbus, Simon Wiesenthal, notes that “throughout the sixteenth century the movement of the Marranos to the New World had continued,” and that “after the expulsion of the Jews and flight of the Marrano element, it was the turn of the Moriscos to serve as scapegoats for the ills of society.” The same writer estimates that, all told, Spain lost one and one-half million people as a consequence of the “purification” of its population of Jews and Moors. “Many occupations were virtually abandoned,” he writes. “Trade, the crafts, and the sciences languished. Moreover, since these branches of endeavor had been the domain of Jews and Moriscos, they had become in themselves suspect. Spaniards had to be extremely careful about entering any of these fields.... Spanish life as a whole was the worse for these injustices.... Spain was swamped with fortune hunters from all parts of Europe ... but they could not revive the Spanish economy. Just as the irrigation canals dug by the Moors in Andalusia were allowed to silt up, so the very channels on which the country’s health depended fell into neglect.”
We document that Spain’s loss was Britain’s gain. Beginning with the initial planning, organization and promotion of the first British colonial efforts, Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors were present as navigators, ship captains, sailors, metallurgists, cartographers, financiers and colonists. Among these we find Joachim Ganz, Simon Ferdinando, Walter Raleigh, John Hawkins, Humphrey Gilbert, Richard Hakluyt Sr. and Jr., Francis Drake, Martin Frobisher and Abraham Ortelius.
The first and second British colonies in North America, Virginia and Massachusetts were provisioned, funded and peopled by persons of Sephardic Jewish and Muslim Moorish descent. Current genetic genealogical studies of the Appalachian descendants of these early colonists demonstrate that they carried DNA haplotypes (male or female lineages) and genes from Sephardic, Ottoman and North African founders. Further, these early North American colonists often bore straightforwardly Jewish and Muslim surnames. Attested are Allee, Aleef, Sarazin, Moises, Bagsell, Haggara, Ocosand and even Saladin. Indeed, given the patently non-Christian backgrounds of so many settlers up and down the Atlantic coastline of the American colonies, it becomes difficult to ignore the significant declarations of religious tolerance inscribed in the U.S. Constitution.
Even (and particularly) New York, founded by the Dutch as New Amsterdam, was heavily peopled by Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors. The presence of persons from these ethnic affiliations on the governing boards of the Dutch West and East India Companies is no accident. They included Jonathan Coen (Cohen) and Cornelius Speelman (another classic Jewish name). Other New Amsterdam, and later New York, residents were Jacob Abrahamsen and Denys Isacksen. We present contemporaneous testimony suggesting that even the leading Knickerbocker families of the New York colony -the van Cortlandts, Philipses, van Rensselaers, De La Nos and De Lanceys - were of Sephardic ancestry.
This fresh look at Colonial American genealogies and settler lists presents for the first time in one source the Spanish, Hebrew, Arabic and Jewish origins and meaning of more than 5,000 surnames, the vast majority of them widely assumed before to be sturdy British family names of ancient bearing. Many of our name etymologies plainly contradict the standard reference works. The decipherment of surname history is an involved subject, one that can extend over centuries of transformation in several countries and require knowledge of a multitude of languages. For instance, in order to understand the sea change suffered by the ancient Jewish name Phoebus to English Phillips (and Scottish Forbes and Frobisher), with stages along the way as Pharabas and Ferebee and Furby, one must have an appreciation for the synthesizing religions of the Roman Empire, including the Cult of Mithras and naming practices of Greek-speaking congregations of Jews, as well as conversion of Berber populations to Judaism, conquest of Spain by Berber armies in 710 and subsequent development of Judeo-Arab culture, not to mention the medieval French, Norman, Anglo-Saxon and Scottish linguistic, orthographic and social filters the surname passed through until it became enshrined in modern times as “good ole English” Phillips.
Thank you for bringing this topic up. It needs to be discussed more.
Mexican is a nationality. There are several ethnic groups in Mexico to include a large variety of indigenous groups.
You’re doing great work young man . I support your factual philosophies. 100
A lot of Mexicans do honor their Indigenous heritage. We know we can be a mix, but many of us connect easily to our Indigenous ways of life. The U.S. confuses the issue a lot. Everyone has their experience. I find that anyone "searching" has issues with identity. Most who are accepting or comfortable connect easily.
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Eight times out of ten Mexicans and Hispanics in general the mixed ones be it Mestizos, Pardos, Zambos, Castizos, Indo Mestizos, Harnizos, Melungeons, Mulattoes, etc see themselves as better then pure blooded Indios and pure blooded Negroes as well as pure blooded East Asians yeah.
Barely
What indigenous ways of life do you connect with Jorge(George)?
To connect you need to actively practice. Just like Africans you have a singular tribe that you can trace your genetic history back to. That tribe has its own concept of life and rituals. That’s connecting.
No they don't!! They look down on indigenous looking people were as if ur light skin its better so stop the cap
Hi I'm Native American, specifically White Mountain Apache, from the Fort Apache Indian Reservation. I am gonna comment as someone from a rez, 3/4 apache and 1/4 Navajo, enrolled only to WMAT, and grew up watching RUclips videos. This video is very interesting and a bit personal as it touches on indigenous identity. I have some college but could not afford to continue, but that will be changing this year because I need to get back out there and connect to all my native friends I met. All indigenous communities I feel are being reminded after the pandemic that we are not stagnant and now it seems that some are resisting assimilation and are starting to decolonize. After Standing Rock, no dapl, new DNA technology, the internet, social media, and the increase discussion of Indigenous identity, that the US hegemony is starting to crack. I have privilege to be born into the tribe, have grandparents who speak the language, can understand the language, culture, and communities. These videos you and others do are bringing back my sense of expression that I loss during the pandemic. I guess the intention of my comment is that I'm excited and truly thank you, Gabriel, and other indigenous RUclipsrs I've come to know that I want to participate and I want to grow as well. Thank you and take care.
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Remember we were all part of new Spain. The natives were allowed to keep their culture and traditions just as in what is now currently Mexico. Alfonso Borrego is a descendant of Geronimo and goes out and explains the difference between Anglo and Hispanic culture and treatment of natives
It’s an irony that the Mexicans were so harsh with the Apache and vice-versa-Yet, Mexicans have a lot of indigenous blood.
@@richlisola1not really when you learn that Apache refers a lot of different tribes, clans, bands, and peoples. Even the dialects of apache are different with whom they interacted with daily, (western apache, eastern apache, etc.) Also Mexicans (nationality) and Apache (tribal identities) are similar but not the same. The nuance is not in similarities but slight differences, (language, culture, religion, spirituality, location, etc.) It's not surprising to me as White Mountain Apache, that Mexicans and some of my people and other apache tribes fought. Do you understand Apache culture from those times?
@@ambrosewilliams1897 I was being somewhat purposely obtuse. To mock the notion that shared blood is all that’s needed to make peace. A silly modern notion. I’m with you. I know why the Apache and the Mexicans hated one another.
-Name me an Apache band that didn’t loathe the Mexicans for all the ghastly crimes committed by the Mexicans amidst their efforts to settle the Southwest? The Mexicans managed to out Spanish the Spanish in their ruthless killing of the Apache.
Whatever likenesses one gleans between the Apache and the Mexicans. Tell it to Geronimo’s children. Geronimo, who died dreaming of killing Mexicans. And rightfully so.
This was a very interesting conversation. Thank you very much for your articulation . Encouraging.
Growing up in California as a mixed race person with roots to the Inca Valley one thing that struck me about "Mexicans" is all through my childhood and twenties they were the only people that would ever accept me as if I was one of them. People from the other parts of my roots would always make sure I knew I was not welcome, and even other South Americans would do that (I didn't actually meet anyone else from the high Andes until I was almost 50). But Mexican would always act like I was a Chicano even after I corrected them. And when I've gone to Mexico, Indigenous folks there have asked me "where are you really from?" because I sound like a gringo, but I look and stand like a cousin. My impression is that "Mexican" Mexicans are very aware of and growing increasingly more proud of their Indigenous side. In Peru being indigenous is a bad thing outside of the Andes, but in Mexico everyone seems to try to claim to be at least part Indigenous.
Good that you feel welcomed. I feel welcomed with Mexicans as a Salvadorian American too. Most just assume I'm one of them
If you grew up here and share our phenotype and descend from latin america you'll pretty much blend in w the Chicanos.
Thank you for sharing your heritage and your knowledge. I hope for much success in your search . Salute.
Very interesting and informative. Please keep making videos.
And there isn’t any Indian reservations in Mexico and your language is from Spain so that makes it your mother country
Gabriel(Hebrew), Clark(English), Faust(German).........His own name is a perfect expression of the linguistic/cultural labels that have been imposed on Native Peoples, the world over. No wonder he has so many "identity" issues. He loves his name, but he also knows on some level it's not "right".
One of the most interesting perspectives I’ve heard on your channel. Love it❤
Recently getting my driver license again after a while of not having one and what bothers me is the people making me check the “white” race box and only being able to check “Hispanic” “Latin American” on ethnicity . Never liked Latin American or Hispanic term. Knowing there is more to my ancestry . So I wrote human and they didn’t let me till I checked the “white” box. It’s frustrating and needs to be changed.
Yeah? Well no one, nor the state has the time to examine your entire pedigree is.
I’m Mexican American by nationality… but I am half Spaniard, and Half Native American with a little Italian, Central African, Berber and Latvian thrown in there.
I’m gonna check what I predominantly am. I can’t claim those other ones cause I’ve never grew up as any of them, nor have any direct links to them other than a few ancestors.
You are half European, half Spanish. Period. Accept it. Jesus Christ.
@thearyamehrrYES ~ we need to check White box cuz us Mexican predominately White. f6886
@@colinchampollion4420 no, it’s just the way the system is set up. This system you’re talking about is Anglo American and it’s how they keep track of demographics.
In our realm, even in Spain, these boxes and way of thinking are non existent. But since we’re in USA, the European side is what dominates and is what’s referred to FIRST before anything.
But in our case as Hispanic Americans, we can check either or. White or Native American or “other” - and you wouldn’t be wrong.
All these terms, people know jack about. Let me help you.
“White” is an Anglo/Anglo American invention and it used to mean of English/Germanic descent until recent when USA decided it to mean or include All other Europeans.
“Hispanic” is derived from “Hispania” which was the Roman name for Spain and is a culture that originated and comes from Spain. Spaniards are Hispanics. European Hispanic.
“Hispanic American” refers to those who have Spanish ANCESTRY in the Americas. In other contexts “Hispanic” refers to the Spanish and “American” refers to the Amerindian/Indigenous. It’s a blending of both worlds and cultures, so it’s not wrong to use that term either.
“Latino” or “Latin American” is a French invention. It’s simply a linguistic nomenclature. We’re called Latinos because we speak a Latin language and descend from Latin people (in this case Spain and Portugal). Latin America has evolved to indicate a geographic-linguistic region and so it’s not bad to identify with that term either.
You can call yourself Hispanic, Hispano, Hispanoamericano, Hispanic American, Amerindian, Latino, Latin American, Latin if you want and you wouldn’t be wrong. It’s just contextual preference.
I prefer Hispanoamericano, Hispanic American, Mestizo. Because it refers to both my heritages.
Hispanic refers to Spain, just like “Slavic” may refer to Russia, Belarus, Yugoslavia, etc. just like how Celtic refers to Irish, Welsh, Scottish… just like Germanic refers to Germany, Norway, Dutch, Austrian - just like Iranic refers to Kurds, Iranian, Afghans, etc… Hispanic is in the same boat as All those.
Now older, I am looking into my native ancestry, looking to find out more. Great conversation, you are not alone in having interest in this topic.Thankful you are educating us more on this topic 👏🏼
Africans in America were detribalized also! Great word!
The Irish were detribalized😅😅😅😅
They're from Africa nobody cares
There's no such thing as African Americans copper colored people in America are indigenous to America we built this country
@@Richard-gp5tg not the same condition. You were still white and on the bottom of list of importance European intelligence when you came to America. Do your research. Not the same thing.You weren't considered less than a man or woman when you came in through Ellis Island as immigrants or when ever.
I am grateful to God that we as Foundational Black Americans are detribalized it is currently an unuseful and hateful act
Excellent discussion, so many good points were raised and I hope you'll continue this discussion in the future
Im Mexican American I do believe the we are part of the American natives. Aztecs n Maya's have blood from the American natives. Just look it's me Mexicans we do look like. I live in South Dakota so I've seen many many natives n we look a like. N plus half of the land was part of Mexico Utah Colorado new Mexico Arizona California Texas Oklahoma Wyoming. So we are part of the Mexican Aztecs mayas with native American. We all are brothers so ain't matter where we come from the longest we respect n love each other that's what matters love you all around the world n God bless everyone
Mexicans have Spanish and American Native..some more some less basically
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck Mexicans also have African blood, but they are ashamed of it. That's truly sad. The Mexican government just recently admitted that the third root of the Mexican people is Africa!
very interesting... I am from Mexico and after 500 years people here are quite mixed....true there have been several waves of immigration so although most have actual Spanish decsent some have more recent one. The point about "Latino" to me has more to do with the language, in other words the Spanish language and the Portuguese language while your're at it, and that is a big influence in culture in general, so that kind of puts us in common ground. Many people here in Mexico I'm sure can't pinpoint their origin even within the country...some can. For many that's not relevant. What I think is we should strive to be one country al least and all Mexicans within Mexico be treated equally.
Excellent conversation, thank you.
I love having my native roots. I have no detectable Spanish DnA even though I am mixed with other European dna but I look more native. However I never knew I had that much native until I did my dna . I love your videos. Thank you for sharing all these wonderful stories.
That's awesome!
No European dna whatever? Mine was 47/51 Iberian and indigenous
@@azborderlands yes I am half white . I am of mixed race. I am a big mix of things. I have from my father’s side scandinavian, Irish, welsch and Scottish dna. From my mother’s side I have Indigenous Amazonian, Mesoamérican and andean some Nigerian and North African. No Iberian came up. Even though my mom says her father’s father was Spaniard. I don’t really know but I didn’t get any of it.
@@azborderlandsthey said no Spanish DNA.
Could your mother's father have Spanish Moorish roots? @@Untilsheputherfootdown
@21:35, all state laws regarding Native Americans, targeted Natives with origins in the United States, it had nothing to do with Indigenous Peoples of the South. The State and Federal laws regarding Indigenous law, policy and recognition, didn't recognize any Indigenous People from the South, they considered them to be Mexican Mestizo etc., which is a genocidal Indigenous policy to not at least recognize that Native People exist down south and immigrated from the South.
It targeted Natives with origins in the U.S but in certain cases was weaponized against Mexicans and Mexican Americans.
@@WakingtheGiant4 Sure. Have you looked into Northern Mexican Tribes, I think you have ancestry from that region. I know there are probably 100 Tribes of the region, so it will be hard to find your extended family and community without proper records. But it is still possible.
@@Thomas_Oklahoma You are correct brother. My roots are Yoreme on my paternal side. I’ve made contact with the tribe and am now in the process of learning the language.
@@WakingtheGiant4 I just finished watching the rest of your interview, where you mentioned that. I'm glad that you are discovering your roots, Yoreme identity and heritage. I did a few projects about Indigenous Northern Mexico, and I noticed you look like some of the Tribal people's of the Sonora region. 👍🏼
Joaquín Murrieta Orozco has, on both his mother's and father's sides, Basque surnames from peninsular Spain,
10:18 I think he mixed up "Peninsulares" and "Criollos". It makes no sense that "Criollos" were the ones born in the Iberian Peninsula, and "Peninsulares" (literally, "from the Peninsula") the ones born in Mexico...
I did! No excuses on my part.
I didnt catch it even 😂
I caught it and thought everything I knew was false. Thanks for bringing it up as well.
@asturiasceltic3183
this has me actually laughing out loud :D
I agree Criollos were born in the Latin American country itself. Peninsulares were born and raised from Spain
Thank you for giving me and my family something to think about!
Danielle, I’m so enjoying your interviews. Each one continues to reveal so many hidden gems to our history whether good or bad. Gabriel thank you for breaking things down and explaining them in a way that’s understandable and with such patience. At the end of each video I’m like that’s it, I wonder what’s next🤦🏾♀️😂
Wow, thank you! You always give me such great ideas though 😅😅😅
Hello
I agree with most of the video. I came out genetically harnizo (70% caucasoid and 30% Amerindian), but I look Turkish by phenotype (olive skin, full dark beard, balding, etc).
Besides having Spanish and some Amerindian, I have also Turkish, Cypriot and Balkan ancestry (there was a good amount of Ottoman immigrants to Latin American countries, Mexico included. My great great grandfather was one of those immigrants who immigrated to Mexico)
My paternal Haplogroup is I2a2 (very rare in Mexico as it is a Balkan and to a lesser extent Anatolian haplogroup , most Mexicans have an Iberian paternal Haplogroup) and A2 as my maternal Haplogroup (common in Western México).
Great job for this video!
Through my DNA I found out I was 51% native American, 25% Spanish and 17% Portuguese. I was raised believing I was Mexican. I'm very proud of being all three of 'em! And by the way I just turned 79yrs. So what's the big deal?!! We are all children of God.
Blessings to u Ms.Mary 💛
Torres is a Mexican name. My neighbors growing up were Torres, and Mexican-American... In the Midwest, many with Spanish names are originally from other countries, and don't like at all when ignorant people assume they are Mexican.
Mexican is not a race! Just like American is not a race. Mexico is very mix country of people from different parts in the world.
Torres is not Mexican it originated from Spain.
Mexican is a creed not a race. 😂😂😂. You are mestizo.
I dislike the broad labeling of colonization. I don't want to say they are lying. It is really disingenuous to me to pretend like the bad things regarding racial groups or ethnicities are a result of colonization. For example the native tribes that my DNA belongs to was constantly attacked and driven out of north texas by the plains tribes. They chose to align with the Mexican govt for protection. The white men didn't force them to do that. The plains tribes did. Even in Mexico nationality existed before the Spanish. It was just tribally identity that was important. The Aztecs,Mayans, and Incans controlled massive territories. They taxed, discriminated, and established legal systems that promoted their own tribesmen.
Why are so many brown people willing to accept civilization only came from Europe. No humans do the same things everywhere they go. Sure it is a fact Europeans have been the most successful in spreading their culture but they weren't the only ones who tried.
What? War and traitorous alliance is not civilized. Civilization is the cooperation and community that makes survival easier. The violence that certain kinds of people always create or bring in is archaic.
@@AlluminaOnyxia you aren't responding to anything I said. You might want to rethink that or read my comment again.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 the Americans
@@gew2027 ?
Definition of an American Webster first Edition 1828 we're the American Indians not the Native Americans
a lot of native in Texas Arizona and New Mexico were forced to latiniced
No they weren’t. They still hold titles and the land agreements that the Spanish monarchs gave them. The Spanish let them be for the most part.
Truth is so wonderful. Wow, I've been waiting for this conversation as BLK, man, for a long time. This something needs to be brought to the forefront. Wish you the Best, THANK YOU.
it would have been nice to have this conversation with someone who was raised in a traditional Native household & community.
converts are often overzealous & idealize the experience rather than providing a more objective viewpoint.
this guy doesnt represent a traditional indigenous lifestyle, he represents the elements he picked & chose to emphasize as an adult thru the lens of someone raised in not just a European American household, but one with extra baggage of their LGBTQ identity which, as he stated, was given priority over the indigenous traditions he attempted to kearn later in life.
postcolonial studies are boring. it’s the dead horse that continues to be beaten to advance the concept of racial grievance.
if we’re trying to study indigenous cultures in the 21st century, talk to ppl who were actually raised within the culture.
a Californian who is racially indigenous but culturally as Anglo as it gets shows us nothing about indigenous cultures as they navigate the challenges of the 21st century.
if being indigenous is just a springboard to feel aggrieved the entire point is missed.
i’d rather learn about the indigenous cultures themselves, not just another guy pushing SJW narratives. this is uninformative & boring for anyone that has read an 8th grade American History textbook.
His experience being from a closed adoption is uniquely difficult, and I think everyone deserves to know their family story-which is what my channel focuses on.
Id love to talk with someone raised in a traditional Native household. Both experiences are important!
Well, Gabriel is working on reconnecting, I'll give him that. I'm not keen on adopting any terminology, but the important thing is he is trying. I have some agreement with you, the Native communities should try to avoid western gender terminology, as many Native cultures of North America, have a two spirt (male, female and one who sees/fits both genders) concept already.
im not discounting his experience or his right to know his ancestral roots.
his *personal* story is very interesting.
the issue is that it is presented as a Native Mexican viewpoint when culturally he is technically neither & that is reflected in the emphasis on colonial & postcolonial grievances & less on what it’s actually like to have been born & raised an indigenous Mexican.
Yeah I was thinking we were going to hear from someone who grew up with the native American culture.
@chokloconqueso8446 This also brings up the border crossed us argument bc i believe it did for mexicans culturally, but im not sure about SW natives. Bc during and after, there was brutal warfare between the two. Which i think is more proof that we are a separate people but perhaps possibly converged in an alternate timeline many pueblo and Taos people proir to US annexation. Who knows.
20 Million Indigenous People In Mexico are still Fighting for their rights and still Indigenous People Are Mexico They Have A Very Strong and Important Role In Society. That’s Why You Have Guys Like Canelo Alvarez Saying I’m A Aztec Warrior. Which is Beautiful To See To Me.
Canelo does have a striking resemblance to montezuma.
Yet his phenotype is white
@@frankjrock😂😂
@@frankjrockNah,more like Hernan Cortez.
I really enjoyed this conversation you both are having about being indigenous. This is an answer to the main point of the video. "Are Mexicans Native Americans? Mexicans is just a name to recognize one is from the country of Mexico. Yes, Mexicans are Native Americans because Mexico belongs to the American continent, until The United States came to be part of this continent and changed it all from the real nativos.
I took a DNA test and i discovered that i am 60% European, 15% Native American, and 17% African so i really am Hispanic. I was born on the island of Puerto Rico.
Yeah that would be low native percentage for a Mexican Andes region of South America or Central America
There's a lot of misconceptions of what it means to be Hispanic or Latino. First off people need to realize that being Hispanic and Latino has nothing to do with race or ethnicity and I speak from own experience being black and coming from the Latin American region. Historically the term "Latino" was imposed on South Americans by the French for the purpose of claiming Spain former colonies for themselves. Then there's also the Monroe Doctrine.
Beyond that I think we need to stop confusing nationality, ethnicity and race.
the term “Latino” comes from “latinoamericano”- the spanish word for Latin American.
what does the Monroe Doctrine have to do with this? 🤦🏽♂️
Amen
Monroe made four basic points: (1) the United States would not interfere in European affairs; (2) the United States recognized and would not interfere with existing colonies in the Americas; (3) the Western Hemisphere was closed to future colonization; and (4) if a European power tried to interfere with any nation
Where do yall get this stuff:
Latino has its origins in the French term Amérique latine, coined in the mid-19th century during the Second Mexican Empire to identify areas of the Americas colonized by Romance-speaking people and used to show affinity with French allies during the Mexican Empire, also termed the Mexican intervention.[16]
Latino word is understood as Latino American but the ORIGIN of the word isn't that!! The origin is a colonizers term invented and used by the French and Spanish!
Blood quantum seems very inaccurate to me. It often ASSUMES tat the FIRST ancestor in the genealogy is 100%(full-blood) all the way down to 0%(Freedmen). All who follow in those bloodlines today are quantum based on those great-grandparent's original quantum. My 5 Civilized ancestors were marked as Freedmen on the Dawes, but my Woodland ancestor's tribes use genealogy/descent. Seems that many of the Virginia Indians were enslaved or indentured at one time and mixed blood with the Free Mulatto communities after Native slavery was outlawed around 1700. Very few of the Woodland tribes(at least not the ones whose DNA I have seen) have relatively* substantial amounts of Native DNA, but on the Freedmen's side, I connect to Harjo and Blue Jacket descendants who have between 12% and 25% Native DNA, while I have 8% coming mostly from my Freedmen side. I'm sure that a strong majority of mine comes from the Freedmen side because 23andme says it comes from that side. Seems some Freedmen may have been ACTUALLY "By Blood", and that many of those who were "By Blood" had blood quantum based on assumption. I also have a Sioux match that hit almost 80% Indigenous, and I have seen Choctaw up there too. Upper Plains Indians seem to score as high as Navajo and Apache. That flies in the face of the belief that all tribes east of the SW are mostly White in their make-up kinda like Mexicans. DNA should be a NEW way of Indigenous identity, but the gatekeepers prefer the methodology that allows them to have more selective power. Being Indigenous is also a cultural identity when it comes to tribal enrollment, but that's also where favoritism can come into play.
In South Louisiana, we have Native communities that are mixed and have historically intermingled with African and European groups. They are reconnecting with their Indigenous Native ancestral ways. Nations like the Houma, Ishak/Atakapa, Choctaw, Tchitimacha may speak French, Spanish and English but now are reclaiming their native tongue along with cultural practices publicly no matter what their DNA admixture is. Its apart of our Creole culture.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 we're not black or Afican
@gew2027 Who's We !?. You must mean those... An emblem of Africa 1798. Looks familiar and similar.
@barrypayton2832 Emblem of America 1798 showcases the American Indian that is found on the East Coast and through out the Americas. There were Many groups of American Indians here. That looked different with different phenotypes. This is Fed. Documented. We are Not Africans. Darkskin Indians ,so called African Americans Most of Us are from the East coast and we are Not African .. I myself are decendant of Many Tribes of the Carolinas. We as a people need to come together All Indigenous Aboriginal people of Turtle Island. Let Us Have peace and sit down and talk with respect 1 to another.
@@barrypayton2832 Has nothing to do with Africa the people they call the Aztec the Mayan the Incas are us . Civilization and the Ancient Egyptians by Katanga Bonga
@gpostallive5818 I'm of African descent from Bayou Country. There have been French and Spanish since the 17th century, which made documented writings and pictures depicted of the different Natives down here. Some were lighter and darker than others. I agree phenotypes vary from place to place, and facial features change with intermingling and intermarriage within a generation. New Orleans was a major slave port with thousands of Africans of different ethnicities imported between 1718 up until 1840, legally and illegally. And thousands of different European ethnicities were brought here to populate the swamps. There are alliances and adversaries amongst them all. Our DNA admixture tells our history down here. We have ample documented information and evidence of eventful encounters LSU, UNO, SU, Tulane, records and archives, as well as Historic New Orleans Collection and the Archdiocese of New Orleans.
Ms. Romero. I'm sure that you already know your last name alone connects you to so many different ethnicities by itself. I really appreciate you opening people's eyes to a blended culture that has been ignored for thousands of years.
The Mexica people are from this land. Their cousins were driven up into the northern forests on the east coast and were planning to return to Mexico when the settlers came to Virginia and disrupted their plans to return home.
Not trying to be a smart ass but where did you learn, read, or hear that from ?
My Ancestry dna says I’m 25% indigenous from New Mexico and Jalisco. A relative says it goes back to Comanche and Spanish in Tucumcari
If you’re from NM and have Jalisco roots, you’re ancestors left to colonize the north along with the Spaniards. Because the US was expanding they needed our people to stay in those lands to avoid Americans coming over. I have ancestors that left to New Mexico around late 1700’s
@@intruzione my grandpa is from Jalisco. My grandmother from New Mexico. Her great grandfather was in the civil war and he survived.
@@Buff247 oh so it's more recent, cool... I have ancestors from Jalisco that left to NM to populate the area around late 1700's since those areas were isolated, Spain wanted to populate the area since Americans were trespassing into New Spain...
As a Hispanic, my bloodline comes from Jalisco, Guadalajara I'm 6'5 , love to my native Americans.
@@EfrainEnciso love all your ancestors
Of course, Mexicans are Native to the so-called American continent, it's just that they were colonized by the Spanish conquistadors and adopted their language and some of their cultural attitudes and religion.
ALL of their cultural values.
@@primordialdaimon 😂😂 I bet you say everyone is from Africa as well😂😂
Actually Mexicans were colonized thanks to the rivalries among different tribes who paid tribute to the Aztecs and lived subjugated by them. The spanish had to get help from those tribes because there were just a few hundred of them, impossible to conquer an Aztec civilization bigger in population than any european city of that time.
@@primordialdaimon lol and y'all are uneducated.
@@primordialdaimonAnd you're from Africa, so what's your point
If all first nations people of the western hemisphere would become detribalized then they would have no right to their lands or it's resources. Maybe this is a long term goal of colonization. Reconnecting natives should be helped as long as they are reconnecting in a good way.
Mexico: The most Spanish speaking country in the world (beats Spain 3-1). Oldest existing Capital (Mexico City) in North America; The size of Western Europe (Together, bigger than Spain, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, etc.); has more pyramids than Egypt (100's); has over 60 ethnic regions with their own Native American languages. Land of many races and ethnicity. Imagine Europe speaking only one language, well, that's possible in Mexico. Research it for assurance.
Ok so speak one of those languages then
No necesitas abuela😂
@@BonVoyage861 - Nahuatl, Mixtec, Yucatec Maya, Zapatec,Yaqui, etc. Check the Wikipedia on Native Mexican Languages. Have a good day!
@@HectorGutz Ok so type using one of those then
@@BonVoyage861para que o que putita?
This is new to me. But I'm Mexican American born from immigrants here in the USA. Being the first generation here, I guess I wasn't exposed to the hate against Natives among Latinos. I was always taught that as Latinos, we are Mestizo, a mix of Native and European.
It was never a point of pride or shame, just a matter of fact. It's funny that people point fingers at colonization, but are more than happy to allow pop culture's trends to erase their own heritage.
Pretty much
A buddy of mine is from Mexico (looks veeeery stereotypically Mexican), he told me that going to Spain was going to the Motherland. Before this, I never would've thought that Mexicans believed they were an extension of White Europeans.
@RT878 no, Americans know what Spaniards look like- they look like the white boogie man that leftist screech about when they talk about the original sin of "Whiteness"
Because Mexico first started as New Spain.( Nueva Espan'a) It stayed as Madre Patria but no sensible Mexican thinks of Espan'a as " mother land" . Especially now that we have a Tabasco Native ( Amlo) as Prez thats calling out the Spanish Energy companies for their ruthless price gouging . No patriotic Mexican calls Spain the Motherland nowadays
I tin so Chilidog
@RT878 Maybe most people who aren't Spaniards.
Well your buddy was probably delusional as there are many descendants of Spanish immigrants who do look European but if you don’t then well it’s just weird hahah but then again there are so many people in Mexico that want to be white than I’d understand
Para acabar pronto, los Mexicanos somos Americanos porque México esta en el continente Americano, somos Norteamericanos porque México esta en Norteamerica, en su mayoría los Mexicanos somos Mestizos, porque somos mezcla del Español e indígena, y los indígenas Mexicanos son nativo americanos, como cualquier indígena que haya nacido en este continente, desde Alaska hasta la tierra de fuego, osease el termino Americano no es exclusivo de EU, porque América es todo nuestro continente y no solo EU.
I agree young man! You all need to claim your indigenousness!
Emblem of the Americas 1798
Claiming Hispanic is including your indigenous, European and African heritage. Don't be ignorant
@TheJosman Spain is 9 miles from Africa
@TheJosman found the Spaniard lmao
He also needs to honor his parents who abandoned him, and the white guys who paid for his upbringing and saved him.
In time I could see this young man be profoundly culturally wise beyond most or all for his backgrounds.
That said allot victim mindset in there too. A strong masculine father typically stops the low key whining energy regardless of race and backgrounds.
Regarding white being superior, it’s superior as compared to what??
For years I thought Chinese were superior because I valued meditation, kung fu, and Chinese art.
Over time I learned to appreciate my own roots like the Chinese typical appreciate their roots.
That said, whites having invented so much physical items based to some extent on loosing their pagan roots via Middle Eastern Christianity and hyper focusing their lives in a particular way resulted in a massive proliferation of physical abundances.
I’m 1/2 white and we lost so much of our old language, dances, magick systems, and culture of tribe due to eradication of heathen and pagan traditions.
We all can look at another group of people and become overly impressed and think our selves less then.
If you over value basketball you might then hyper inflate black bb stars and feel your extremely short and possibly genetically non gifted in height and fast twitch fiber strength.
Genetics are not permanent. We all can change and become new. Yet genetics has some effects.
What’s normal but sad is judging the book by its cover.
It’s a fact for most people planet wide. Books are literally sold based on cover art I think it’s 60%.
Then author then content ect.
We often do the same with races, religions, groups, sexes, ect ect.
Some of the stereo types help us and some hurt us. It’s the collective lies and the collective truths.
Chinese parents tend to push their kids in math, doesn’t mean all Chinese are good at math, right?
But allot are. More cultural thing, but a culture thing held for 1,000 + years…?
Yes it affects us some how. My Lebonese side is know for being business and middle men. To be slick sellers, and tricky…
Today the richest man in Mexico is Lebonese, owning the tele com business.
Doesn’t mean all Lebonese are like this. But all my family members own business and hustle hard. The huge 20 unit theatre by my house is Lebonese led and owned. And one of my sisters hustles $20m of business thru local airport while the other smokes drugs and lives on boat you can’t stand up on and steals and robs everyone she can, haha. Sad but true.
Same on my Jewish side success wise and failure wise. But non whites will see this and assume, if they mix with us, it ups their line.
I had a Latina chick literally do this for her 2nd kid cus Im literally lite tan / caramel colored ect… and she wanted as she put it, one beautiful baby (pretty ect) in her desired brood of 5-6. She had 1,000% love and respect for her prior kid, and future kids… but she desired one that blinged a look she thought super physically appealing, so she hit me up back in the day. I was so liberal at the time haha it’s crazy. So yeah hubby didn’t know. No genetic testing at the time. Wild really. .
That view is the same in Thailand. It may have some truth but it’s not true per se. if non burn able skin was popular right now, the whole lighter races of people would be clamoring to mix with darker people any chance they could…
It all depends on what we all are valuing. Whites represent 15% of global population. Whites are a minority globally speaking as 15% is smaller number then 85%.. no?
It automatically makes whites rare genetically near everywhere.
The blue eyes even more so.
Some whites from India 🇮🇳 have blue and green eyes. And are more cherished in India than black Indians.
Both white and black Indians have zero European blood. It’s the rare looks that inspire. What ever is more rare… does it not have more curb appeal?
That’s not a superior thing, it’s a rare thing. I personally find Chinese women with green or blue eyes ultra mind blowing.
Russian women in Siberia tend to mixed with Mongolians and northern Chinese and can have this rare look.
What human could not be impressed with rare look like this? How many more would not want their kid to have some of this what we call it exotic beauty?
The real problem is not valuing ourselves. That’s the crux of the problem. It’s not the beauty in the other race, or hight, or what their ancestors did… it’s our own self value the gives us comfort and immunizes us from non helpful comparisons.
Lastly i am American 1st. Too much emphasis on race is divide and conquer jail prison consciousness. We’re not in prison… we can co-mingle and self appreciate / other appreciate.
While this talk is important and based on much truth, I felt like the talking is from 100-200 years ago.
Whites don’t care about being superior. Like 95%+ dgaf about anything like this or that. It’s a non issue. We’re busy appreciating others difference (go along to get along), trying to pay rent(survive / prosper), and hoping others learn our cultural nuances too and to be treated equally by poc rather then fetishized and or despised.
I think it’s culture. In one culture eye contact is showing kindness and respect, so too is saying hello with a wave. Often white.
But in another culture that’s invasive, scary, and terribly burdensome.. often Latino.
When both are raised in one way and then meet each other… neither knows this so they naturally repel each other.
We both then feel butt hurt or upset. And no bad will was there on either side.
We can tell stories about how we’re then disrespected… but it’s factually untrue even when we feeeeeeel it’s profoundly true. Feelings are not facts. Some feeling are intuition, but not always.
How do I know? It’s happened to me, and I eventually learned the other culture / races preferred way of subtly communicating.
I’m an outlier. Few can communicate truly and adapt there ways to multi cultural subtle nuances.
Rarely have others done this for me. Why? It’s rare talented human who can do this. But a few have… and these few are often profoundly wise in the ways of humanity!!
Anyone who read this much… I hope you have a truly great day , feeling confident and loved ❤🤍💙.
Cheers. OG, SF, Native Born 90’s liberal, haha today’s new center right independent hombre.
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Loose boarder = hella drugs and hella crime. Nothings perfect. But too much is too much. 😞
I fully agree with Gabriel! I can't stand the term Hispanic, I don't have any ties to Spain to call myself Hispanic or Latino and my culture is Mexican culture!!! Gabriel can tell you that the name Mexico and Mexican comes from the Mexica tribe who spoke Nahuatl. In the writings of Bernal Diaz del Castillo who was Hernan Cortez man that kept the records or dairies. In those writings Bernal Diaz mentioned the word "mejicanos" with a J because in the spanish alphabet there wasn't a letter with the sound like "Mesheeka" for" mexica" in Nahuatl so Cortez named them "Mejicanos" thats were the name of Mexico and Mexicans comes from! Gabriel knows this, I'm sure. In Mexico there are 68 languages spoken and Spanish is the formal language of Mexico, the other 67 languages are indigenous!!! Nahuatl and Maya being the dominant native languages, and that's not counting the dialects that are spoken. Here's another fact, the Spanish spoken in Mexico has hundreds of words that derived from native languages and are not Spanish words as Gabriel is familiar with. Indians are from a country in Asia named India. Indigenous, native or "Pueblos Originarios" original people is the correct term! I could go on but I will leave it here for now. The way i look at it, the true Mexicans are all native people from Mexico due to the fact that the term Mexico or Mexicans come from an indigenous group of native people. My parents were from Mexico and my grandparents and their parents and so forth, so I consider myself as a Mexican and that's all it matters to me. I don't know anyone in Spain never been there and that term was coined in the USA.
Being born in TX 1960 I'm a proud Tejano American, no more no less than american than any white, black,red, yellow person, not hispanic. I don't think we originate from Hispania 🤔🤷
In Mexico's census you are not asked what you are categorized by the government or any other associations! You are asked if you are Indigenous and what native language you speak if any. So, it doesn't matter what somebody categorize you as and what Federico Navarrete thinks or says he does not represent or think for the Indigenous groups in Mexico.
History as told in America makes imperialism sound like a product imported by Europeans. In reality, many indigenous empires existed in pre-Hispanic Mexico. The last the Aztec ones. Tribes subjugated by the Aztecs were subjected to slavery and colonialism. In fact, it was the leaders of these tribes who led the handful of Spaniards engaged in the conquest. Again they supplied the indigenous armies. And this is so true that there were indigenous leaders appointed nobles by the king of Spain, who bestowed titles and lands on them.
They evidently preferred to be under the new regime than under the Aztecs.
The same thing was repeated elsewhere with the Incas, who had also been imperialists.
In addition, the sons of Spanish nobles and an indigenous noblewoman were in many cases recognized as nobles and retained lands in Spain.
As for tribalism, should its overcoming be seen as a defeat?
Perhaps that still tribal lands have made a greater contribution to the development of humanity than not tribal lands?
I have my doubts.
As for the billboard of various ethnic mix results, it should be pointed out that it is not Mexican or even Central American. It was produced elsewhere in South America for other societies like the colombian or the peruan.
From 1503 Spanish royalty ordered the governor of Hispaniola (Cuba), Nicolás de Ovando, to arrange mixed marriages with the aim of converting one side or the other, and so mixed marriages were legalized as early as 1514 because rank was more important than ethnicity, so much so that Cortés had a great many of his officers marry noble Indian women. Thus a Creole caste of even high status was born. It is true that for a brief period there was an attempt to assign public offices preferably to fully European Spaniards, but this soon proved impossible. So great care must be taken not to view Mexico through the U.S. lens.
Well said. Reading other comments, and typical across many videos, is a singular world view, that has little room for nuance, specially when the options are not good and bad, black and white. But the good news is, there are 100s of years of books, and birth, baptism, marriage, and death records, that speak for themselves. There's netflix history, and then there's history.
nobody "contributed" more gold and silver along with most of the foods in the world and sports with the idea of freedom to europe than the Indigenous Americans.
Remember this is history that justifies colonialism. Try going to the communities that were subjugated by colonialism. Being indigenous is not about race. Race is a colonial construct designed to divide people. Someone that enables and supports racism is not indigenous.
Mexican is like being American. it is where you are from. It's not a race. What most people think of as "mexicans" are Native and Spaniard or Native and French. I'm Apache and Spaniard. I find here in California that the Natives here get mad when people think they are "Mexican". They look at Mexicans as beneth them.