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Yeah I've got a whole rack system that is "techincal pro" and "pro studio" branded and cost over 3 grand at rent-a-center claiming to be 2,500watts and currently has four 15 and four 12in speakers hooked up to it and while I know it isn't anywhere near 2.5k watts she definitely does dim the lights when it powers on and is cranked up to just under distortion lol
YESSS, I have an old Mackie FR1400i that slams, be curious to know how much it's pushing. These were considered to be more of their "budget workhorse" lineup if I understand correctly. Some say the specs are underrated on these. Would be interesting to contrast that with newer budget pro amps.
Crown I-tech, Powersoft, QSC, Yamaha, Lab Gruppen, Peavey, Crest, Carvin too! ;-) Also the Lab Gruppen clones that cost a fraction of the authentics. Some HT folks swear by them which is fine. Live music guys OTOH with their livelihood depending upon them, not so much.
You are doing a great service for the community my friend. I would love to see more "pro" amps like this on the dyno. I recently came from being in the market for 2 pro amps and the amount of amps I've found with outrageous claims is just as ridiculous as the car amp manufacturers. *Cough* Rockville "pro" amps. We've seen palm sized amps put out more juice then these massive goliaths.
I had never heard of this company. As soon as I saw the weight, price and physical dimensions, I knew I was here for the entertainment. 😆 Thanks for the Wendy's "where's the beef!" clip too. You're showing your age Big D.
@@38911bytefree $37.50 a watt is totally fine, if you make 250-300k a year. Unfortunately, I’m not in that cool guy class! The audison venti 200x2 @4 ohms for only 14,999.99.😂😂
Would LOVE for you to test more of these pro amps. I have a Behringer PRO power amplifier (NX6000) which is rated for 3,000w x 2 @ 4 ohms. I used it to run my 15" car audio subwoofer/custom ported box in the living room. The 15" subwoofer (Skar Audio D4 VXF) is rated for 3,000 watts. This amp will bottom it out...but, the whole house just about shakes apart.
@@analogkid4557 lol no, they do 2100-2400W per channel as it's basically 2 NX3000's in bridge inside, same with the NU6000 and NU3000 actually. excellent price for the power they put out
Picked up an old school Peavey PV 2000 a few weeks ago for $300cdn. Dims the house lights very easily lol. Loving the pro amp tests, looking forward to more of them!
Love the content as always!!! You ARE a necessity for learning an amps abilities now!!! Your the first stop for people looking to study an amp to buy. "Your the truth" my friend!!!
@@wal and you do a Damn Good Job doing so brother!!! Your what we call an "Equalizer". You've done for the audio community what the Colt .45 did for self protection!!! You equalized the market against the "scammer" companies robbing people with lies. "Your the Truth Brother"!!!
I had an Aiwa shelf stereo circa 2003 that would have 💩 all over this thing. I remember it being like 199 at Walmart. I even hooked a set of 12s in a bandpass car box up to the sub channel and got a lecture from my mom. Miss that little stereo lol
I really like this pro audio amplifier video with talking points! I have a mid level 7.1 surround sound system with all JBL speakers and was just thinking the other day about using PA audio amps. This video helps! Thanks Williston Audio Lab's! Keep the videos coming.
What I have learned from watching all these amp test vids is the fuse rating times 10 minus a little is almost always in the ball park of the amp will do. (12v amps) For example: I can confidently buy a lying no name amp and know if the unit has 75 amps of fusing I can expect about 600 watts or so.
Internals remind me of the flea market amps back in the 90's that weighed 20-30lbs, but when you open them up, it's a big heavy metal plate bolted in, and over buy the power terminals was an amplifier the size of something that would fit in a walkman! Lol
Lol.. that in a way reminded me of the old "Rockwood" or "Kenford" amps back in the mid 90s...a huge footprint to make it look powerful. But all that was inside was a tiny chip amp board.
Always entertaining Dereck! Thanks for the video. Wasnt considering this one for the theater subs but still good to see the BS stuff out there. LOL That being said I still wanna see a dyno on the Sinbosens.
Yep I was afraid of that. I bought 3 of them back in 2016 for a home theater set up. I discovered real fast something wasn’t right with them. I found out that any speaker with a 10” driver or smaller. They would play real well and clean. But I have a pair of towers that have dual 15” drivers in each. They would play the midrange and tweet but did not have enough oomph to get the drivers moving. So I tried a 10” doc sub woofer in a ported box. Subwoofer barely moved. In fact the only way you could hear the bass was to stick your ear against the port. So if you speakers are 10” or less full range only. Then you could get buy. If you running studio speakers in a home recording studio. They will work fine. If you want to rock out a nightclub. That will be a no go. You will have no customer. To spend money while they dance 🕺 lol 😂.
I'd love to see a Thomann's own brand budget amp on this channel. Their E-Series amps are awesome for pushing power on the cheap. The E1200 and E1500 models are 115v switchable so either one of those could be tested. Supposedly, you are able to crank out 2x800w at 8 ohm and 2x1200w at 4 ohm for the E1200. They certainly push high power and it would be nice to see some actually decent budget amps being tested.
@@wal, I found your videos years ago. Other people try doing the same tests it’s just not the same. I’ve tried watching a few but never get more than a few minutes in. Thanks again!
At least it is consistent, consistently bad. To think I was jealous of my brother who has one as his is so light while my Gemini 1600 watt weighs a ton and the toroid transformer alone his heavier than the entire Technical Pro. I feel much better after this video. Would love to see an analysis of the Gemini.
Also I had to go see how much my Carvin HT1000 weighs. It is rather heavy. It comes in at almost 23lbs! I normally use it to power a 18" JBL pro sub brigded at 4ohms. My single TOA amp puts out more than that "pro" amp. No balanced in, XLR or even 3/4". 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔probably not pro. Thanks big D for the video. Keep them coming
thanks for this video. I have a ton of pro audio amps mostly used for home theater tasks and its always nice to see these kinds of videos as some of the amps are exactly what you show them to be "a joke"...
Would love to see vintage power amps from the 70's dyno'd. It would be nice to see how the power is rated back then. Especially on a nice amp (interesting look) like the legendary Mitsubishi Da-a15 DC power amp.
Really wanna see QSC on the dyno. Worked for a theatre some years back, and when they remodeled they let me keep 12 different QSC amps, as long as I removed them (bc they were very heavy, like 50lbs a piece).
The RMX series have linear power supplies and weigh a ton! The powerlites are SMPS, super lightweight but not on power! A powerlite9 will dim the lights on the block providing it doesn't trip your main breaker first! ;-) Both will deliver rated power seven days a week for years.
I remember seeing catalogs of this company's wares in the early 2000s, might still have it. Anyways, the catalog was very well done as far as giving a good impression.
There are plenty of higher quality options in that true power range for under $200. A quick look at Crutchfield will provide a couple. I run a Niles SI 245 for the bookshelf speakers in my garage and it does 45 watts per channel into 8 ohms while being cleaner and slimmer. I paid $40 for mine and they are plenty on ebay for under $100. Keep up the variety Big D 👍
On the topic of pro audio, I recently came across LASE amplifiers. They have a line of 1U size amps that go all the way up to 2X9000WRMS AT 2ohm. That’s hard to believe, would be very curious what it actually puts out. They are not overly cheap either.
Someone installed it, realized their mistake and sent it back. Reminds me of when Fry’s Electronics would re-shelf used and blown items claiming they were brand new
This is EXACTLY why I bought my crown XLi amplifiers. They are super powerful, under rated, over performing pro amps, and with mega dynamic power in reserve, your dyno proves that! XLi 3500 powering 2 parts express UM18-22's and another XLi 1500 powering 2 JBL GTI 1500 old school subs. My house foundation is in danger, lol!
Just mind blowing for me seeing these tests and results you get. The perspective from a old guy that had car stereo in the 90s 😁 Really cool to see that my favourite amps Phoenix Gold from that area are collectable. Think the smaller was a 275, and the one for the subwoofers had twice the power.
Big D.... I'd love to see a crown amplifier please!! They are highly rated in pro audio and we need the truth. I have a xli3500 and xli2500 in my home system and it really does well
I bought a Rockville RPA9 for an additional amp to run a subwoofer. My primary amp is a Mitsubishi MVR1000 running a couple of RTR Towers with 15s. The line signal was too weak so I bought a Bellari PA550 pre amp for the Rockville. It's working good and bumping my 15 inch NVX subwoofer in a homemade 2.6 cu ft slot ported box.
Do a crown xli 3500 It weighs 50 lb and puts out 2,700 watts at 8 ohms. Or maybe peavey ipr2 7500. Claiming to put out 47500 watt at 2ohm. That would be interesting. Myself I chose the crown over the peavey.
@@wal If your home/shop has sufficient power you can use a 60Hz test tone and hook a bunch of toaster ovens up to the output for ballast. A new rating of toaster ovens per channel is thus achieved! 😀 Funny story with 60Hz sine tones, many years ago I used my HiFonics Zeus Series 7 to power a circular saw and was able to cut studs as easily as if I had a generator. Even used TECHMASTER PEB "bassgasm" as a source. Lots of notes below 60Hz and the saw's motor brushes didn't like that too much and the amp went into protect a few times but no harm done. My side hurt from laughing so hard that day and the day after!
I would love to see any of the higher wattage CVR-D Dyno Tested. They got stupid Bridge Power Output Claims, just curious to see how credible they are. But in any case, thanks for the video.
Yo dereck would you consider ever trying out the t.amp E1500? $249 + shipping n tax I have the E1200 and it prob hits rated for sure, good bang for buck amps.
Just recently got ahold of there 21 frequency equalizer with LED display. And a LED power output display. I think it would be very cool if you did some videos on graphic displays that are available these days for home stereos since there are so many. I have yet to hook mine up
I just tore down a Pyle Bluetooth amp with mic inputs etc. exact same board and coil. Looks like a Chinese basic about board being used across multiple different amps. At least Pyles ratings were more conservative at 150x2 at 4 ohms lol.
As a pro audio guy, this made my head hurt! No balanced inputs, no Speakon outputs. Surprised to see that toroidal transformer inside. One that size is good for a legit 400W RMS. This is like flea market grade shit! Makes Behringer look like touring gear! LMAO! At least look at it this way...if the fan noise annoys you, unplug them. The amp isn't going to overheat! hahahahaha!
Well 50 watts is about the going wattage for any Home audio power amp in that range. Which is basically what it's good for. Maybe to power ATMOS or rear speakers in a pre/pro surround system.
I work for a company that sells actual professional hardware. You can get a legit 2000w 2-channel rack mount amp that's 9 pounds, believe it or not... but it won't be $110, and it sure won't use RCA in. 🙄 Definitely here for the entertainment. 👍️
If you look up the company, they actually have a brick and mortar headquarters and decent looking website. I guess that's to help their image and make it look more legitimate, but otherwise it seems like "white van special" for flea markets and internet. Also mildly funny that they went through the trouble of using an expensive toroidal transformer...that probably costs more than all the rest of the components in the amp combined. Maybe the new version will have a switch mode supply and concrete weights to save money. 😁
Been watching your videos for a while and just subscribed. I just purchased a couple of inexpensive pro amps. Rockville RPA12 to run my old Cerwin Vega 12" house speakers and the Rockville D14 for my two Dayton Audio Ultimax 15's. They sound really good but was curious about the actual wattage. I would love for you to test these out on you amp dynoand get you input on value.
I think you should try hooking up a really good quality mixing console to that amplifier and try the dyno test again to see if the wattage is any higher.
@@wal I think you should buy yourself a really good quality mixing console with bass and treble controls and hook it up to the technical pro ax2000 amplifier and redo the dyno test to see if the wattage is any higher
Where's the beef? Hell,where's the lettace? Had to request a dyno video. I got a arc audio (never seen one tested)very cheep for my work van. Its a 1100x5 ,and im absolutely blown away! Had the newer pioneer 5 channel.i heard amazing things about arc audio is why i took the time to replace the pioneer. This amp is rated way less then pioneer, but is insanely more powerful and the cleanest amp ive ever heard.figured i could at least ask.thanks
awesome video.. hope to see some more pro audio stuff.. like the behringer ep2000 or ep4000.. especially since i own one of each lol. also my buddy has a crown pro amp that has rca inputs, and qsc has amps available with rca inputs as well
I agree with all that you point out. As an owner of a McIntosh, Nakamichi & Klipsch based main system (very old but VERY good) ...I surprised myself & I did buy one of their products ...it was very cheaply priced & I intended to only use it for headphones on my flight sim. It was rated at a ridiculous 1,000 watts!!! I would be happy if it put out 10% of that so I took a chance & ordered one. However, I ended up liking it & I use it for our (Kitchen) sound system ...replacing an old, but pretty good Sony amp. It is not of the quality one would consider for critical classical music listening or such. But at the low price I paid, ...it sounds good & does a lot, so ...I've no complaints.
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Yeah I've got a whole rack system that is "techincal pro" and "pro studio" branded and cost over 3 grand at rent-a-center claiming to be 2,500watts and currently has four 15 and four 12in speakers hooked up to it and while I know it isn't anywhere near 2.5k watts she definitely does dim the lights when it powers on and is cranked up to just under distortion lol
To make a funny joke, looks like somebody took a 1000watt power inverter and turned it into an amplifier 😂😆😆😆
@@cliffcorbitt9494 not even!!! Lol-ol-ol
I have the Crown, and it pounds on 4 twelves!
I own a Crown DriveCore XLS 1002 and it is absolutely a beast of a amplifier.
I would LOOOOVE to see more of this pro audio stuff!!!
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Why? You know what the outcome will be 😂
@@monelfunkawitz3966 No we don't. That's why we want to see more pro audio amps tested.
crown macrotech 5000vz!!!
YESSS, I have an old Mackie FR1400i that slams, be curious to know how much it's pushing. These were considered to be more of their "budget workhorse" lineup if I understand correctly. Some say the specs are underrated on these. Would be interesting to contrast that with newer budget pro amps.
I would love to see more PA amp test… such as Behringer, Nady, Gemini etc
Crown I-tech, Powersoft, QSC, Yamaha, Lab Gruppen, Peavey, Crest, Carvin too! ;-)
Also the Lab Gruppen clones that cost a fraction of the authentics. Some HT folks swear by them which is fine. Live music guys OTOH with their livelihood depending upon them, not so much.
Thomann amps are also interesting, i even have one and it's great haha
@@cpufrost i wonder if a tulun FP10000Q does the rated specs 🤔
Only heard positive things about them :)
@@Electronichub_05 It's a lot of hardware for the asking price that's for sure! I'd be curious myself.
You are doing a great service for the community my friend. I would love to see more "pro" amps like this on the dyno. I recently came from being in the market for 2 pro amps and the amount of amps I've found with outrageous claims is just as ridiculous as the car amp manufacturers. *Cough* Rockville "pro" amps. We've seen palm sized amps put out more juice then these massive goliaths.
How about crown, crest, qsc?
I had never heard of this company. As soon as I saw the weight, price and physical dimensions, I knew I was here for the entertainment. 😆 Thanks for the Wendy's "where's the beef!" clip too. You're showing your age Big D.
Yeah I’m ancient school
about the weight, Behringer amps are light (probly around 9 pounds) but the NU3000, NX3000 etc atleast do 2100-2400W RMS
They actually make good products they need to quit misleading people on the specs. I have thier Bluetooth receiver it kicks ass.
Those must be some really nice amps. At $1 a watt, that’s late 90s pricing. Straight junk!
Thanks for the video, bro! We appreciate you.
Skraight Outta Powa
and i bet it aint even class A
@@Durolith it's obviously class AB. Duh!
Wait you get into "tubes" / "valves" and audiopholery .... this ratio gets even better !!!!
@@38911bytefree $37.50 a watt is totally fine, if you make 250-300k a year. Unfortunately, I’m not in that cool guy class! The audison venti 200x2 @4 ohms for only 14,999.99.😂😂
Being an audio engineer, I really enjoy your pro amp dynos
Would LOVE for you to test more of these pro amps. I have a Behringer PRO power amplifier (NX6000) which is rated for 3,000w x 2 @ 4 ohms. I used it to run my 15" car audio subwoofer/custom ported box in the living room. The 15" subwoofer (Skar Audio D4 VXF) is rated for 3,000 watts. This amp will bottom it out...but, the whole house just about shakes apart.
I would love to see the Inuke line of amps as well.👍
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS YES! Def...
You would be lucky if it puts out 600 watts at 4 ohms.
@@analogkid4557 lol no, they do 2100-2400W per channel as it's basically 2 NX3000's in bridge inside, same with the NU6000 and NU3000 actually.
excellent price for the power they put out
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS he did the NU1000 and NU6000
what would we do without these videos
Be lacking some Dick Riculous for sure!
Picked up an old school Peavey PV 2000 a few weeks ago for $300cdn. Dims the house lights very easily lol. Loving the pro amp tests, looking forward to more of them!
Does that mean, all it's doing is making heat?
@@96kylar I cant tell if you genuinely dont understand what is happening or if you're trolling.
@@96kylar thats true of any class ab amp. 5kw for 2kw of sound. Being peavy just means it last a century
I hve seen more guts in a factory head unit than in this thing!! Heep the truth going Big D!!
I guessed 50 watts at 8 ohms. Knew it was garbage. Thanks for the test.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Love the content as always!!! You ARE a necessity for learning an amps abilities now!!! Your the first stop for people looking to study an amp to buy. "Your the truth" my friend!!!
I want people to be informed not just about the output power, but also the other features they are getting (or not)
@@wal and you do a Damn Good Job doing so brother!!! Your what we call an "Equalizer". You've done for the audio community what the Colt .45 did for self protection!!! You equalized the market against the "scammer" companies robbing people with lies. "Your the Truth Brother"!!!
I had an Aiwa shelf stereo circa 2003 that would have 💩 all over this thing. I remember it being like 199 at Walmart. I even hooked a set of 12s in a bandpass car box up to the sub channel and got a lecture from my mom. Miss that little stereo lol
I really like this pro audio amplifier video with talking points! I have a mid level 7.1 surround sound system with all JBL speakers and was just thinking the other day about using PA audio amps. This video helps! Thanks Williston Audio Lab's! Keep the videos coming.
What I have learned from watching all these amp test vids is the fuse rating times 10 minus a little is almost always in the ball park of the amp will do. (12v amps)
For example: I can confidently buy a lying no name amp and know if the unit has 75 amps of fusing I can expect about 600 watts or so.
haha that's the general rule I've been sticking by as well
And if there is no on board fusing? Its not hard to see through bullshit. Either the wire gauge used, or any other indicators.
@@96kylar I have had some weak amps with big wire inputs.
Internals remind me of the flea market amps back in the 90's that weighed 20-30lbs, but when you open them up, it's a big heavy metal plate bolted in, and over buy the power terminals was an amplifier the size of something that would fit in a walkman! Lol
Love that "where's the beef" lady :D
She’s a hoot!
Lol.. that in a way reminded me of the old "Rockwood" or "Kenford" amps back in the mid 90s...a huge footprint to make it look powerful. But all that was inside was a tiny chip amp board.
Always entertaining Dereck! Thanks for the video. Wasnt considering this one for the theater subs but still good to see the BS stuff out there. LOL That being said I still wanna see a dyno on the Sinbosens.
I have always used crown amp's when it comes to pro gear
worth every dollar. and great video big D
One step up from a Chinese mini chip amp.
Woof 🐶
Chip off the new block
Looking forward to more pro amps Big D!
Yep I was afraid of that. I bought 3 of them back in 2016 for a home theater set up.
I discovered real fast something wasn’t right with them. I found out that any speaker with a 10” driver or smaller. They would play real well and clean. But I have a pair of towers that have dual 15” drivers in each. They would play the midrange and tweet but did not have enough oomph to get the drivers moving. So I tried a 10” doc sub woofer in a ported box. Subwoofer barely moved. In fact the only way you could hear the bass was to stick your ear against the port.
So if you speakers are 10” or less full range only. Then you could get buy. If you running studio speakers in a home recording studio. They will work fine. If you want to rock out a nightclub. That will be a no go. You will have no customer. To spend money while they dance 🕺 lol 😂.
This is equivalent to the white van scam with HIFI audio system. 😂
#DayAlwaysLyinToYa
I think this is a good throwaway amp for the garage. Cheap, runs a couple speakers when you’re working. Hopefully the sound quality is decent
I'd love to see a Thomann's own brand budget amp on this channel. Their E-Series amps are awesome for pushing power on the cheap. The E1200 and E1500 models are 115v switchable so either one of those could be tested. Supposedly, you are able to crank out 2x800w at 8 ohm and 2x1200w at 4 ohm for the E1200. They certainly push high power and it would be nice to see some actually decent budget amps being tested.
Thank You Big D !!
After watching your vid Crown xli 1500. Worth every penny!! Thank You 👍🍀
The toroid is pretty sweet... Should put 10 more transistors in there😊
My old QSC PLX-2402s have never let me down. It's gotta be dang near 25 years now!
Awesome 👏
Thanks to you they can't rip us off anymore
This video should be sent to the people that made the amp
I saw a crazy 10,000 watt into two ohms PA amp yesterday. Dual 20 amp 240 volt inputs and completely independent power amp modules.
Thanks for making these videos and educating consumers.
Thank you for watching, sharing and commenting on my videos!
@@wal, I found your videos years ago. Other people try doing the same tests it’s just not the same. I’ve tried watching a few but never get more than a few minutes in. Thanks again!
Most consumers really have no idea what a 'watt' is anyhow... easy to lead them by the nose.
Nice job as always, thanks.
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Plzzzzzz review more of pro audio this is the best amp channel on RUclips 🤘
For me at this point it’s all down to access. I’d suggest tagging pro amp companies and letting them know. Thanks for the feedback 👍
Hell yeah. Love to see pa stuff on the dyno
Thanks for watching and commenting!
At least it is consistent, consistently bad. To think I was jealous of my brother who has one as his is so light while my Gemini 1600 watt weighs a ton and the toroid transformer alone his heavier than the entire Technical Pro. I feel much better after this video. Would love to see an analysis of the Gemini.
Thanks man ,was thinking about buying one here in Trinidad
Also I had to go see how much my Carvin HT1000 weighs. It is rather heavy. It comes in at almost 23lbs! I normally use it to power a 18" JBL pro sub brigded at 4ohms. My single TOA amp puts out more than that "pro" amp. No balanced in, XLR or even 3/4". 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔probably not pro. Thanks big D for the video. Keep them coming
thanks for this video. I have a ton of pro audio amps mostly used for home theater tasks and its always nice to see these kinds of videos as some of the amps are exactly what you show them to be "a joke"...
You should do a top #1 video of everything so its a cheat sheet of what to buy. Car amps, home amps, pro amps, etc.
Would love to see vintage power amps from the 70's dyno'd. It would be nice to see how the power is rated back then. Especially on a nice amp (interesting look) like the legendary Mitsubishi Da-a15 DC power amp.
Oh man I tested some Proton and NAD from the 80’s. 70’s stuff might need to be looked over first as these power output tests are brutal on the amp
Really wanna see QSC on the dyno. Worked for a theatre some years back, and when they remodeled they let me keep 12 different QSC amps, as long as I removed them (bc they were very heavy, like 50lbs a piece).
QSC makes excellent gear.
The RMX series have linear power supplies and weigh a ton! The powerlites are SMPS, super lightweight but not on power! A powerlite9 will dim the lights on the block providing it doesn't trip your main breaker first! ;-) Both will deliver rated power seven days a week for years.
@@cpufrost I run plx 3602's and they are nuts.
@@druskoprecisionsound6250 indeed they are!
I was looking for someone to mention QSC... amazing amps! I have a 22 yr-old cx254 and it's truly amazing.
Love it. More actual pro audio, though😊
I remember seeing catalogs of this company's wares in the early 2000s, might still have it. Anyways, the catalog was very well done as far as giving a good impression.
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Excelente!!!! Que vengan más vídeos así 😎👌🏻
There are plenty of higher quality options in that true power range for under $200. A quick look at Crutchfield will provide a couple. I run a Niles SI 245 for the bookshelf speakers in my garage and it does 45 watts per channel into 8 ohms while being cleaner and slimmer. I paid $40 for mine and they are plenty on ebay for under $100. Keep up the variety Big D 👍
Thank you once again for keeping these manufactures honest with a good dyno 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
The kind of guy that buys this amp has a Pyramid 120V inverter in his car to power this amp feeding his plywood sub box because he's "that guy."
Hey that's my setup 😎
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On the topic of pro audio, I recently came across LASE amplifiers. They have a line of 1U size amps that go all the way up to 2X9000WRMS AT 2ohm. That’s hard to believe, would be very curious what it actually puts out. They are not overly cheap either.
Someone installed it, realized their mistake and sent it back. Reminds me of when Fry’s Electronics would re-shelf used and blown items claiming they were brand new
i'm constantly leery about electronics like this catching my house on fire.
how much fire can it make with a 4 amp fuse? That's not enough to run a coffee pot!
This is EXACTLY why I bought my crown XLi amplifiers. They are super powerful, under rated, over performing pro amps, and with mega dynamic power in reserve, your dyno proves that!
XLi 3500 powering 2 parts express UM18-22's and another XLi 1500 powering 2 JBL GTI 1500 old school subs. My house foundation is in danger, lol!
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Great video! I was really hoping for at least 125 per channel 🤦♂️ I would like to see how bad some of the Pyle stuff is too.
Just mind blowing for me seeing these tests and results you get.
The perspective from a old guy that had car stereo in the 90s 😁
Really cool to see that my favourite amps Phoenix Gold from that area are collectable. Think the smaller was a 275, and the one for the subwoofers had twice the power.
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We Need more pro Audio amp dynos. And that Entertainment 😉
The guts reveal was hilarious!
wow, would NOT have thought THAT bad
Big D.... I'd love to see a crown amplifier please!! They are highly rated in pro audio and we need the truth. I have a xli3500 and xli2500 in my home system and it really does well
Check dis The King of Pro Audio? Crown XLi 1500 Amp Dyno Test and Review [4K]
ruclips.net/video/s5_PegGVF9k/видео.html
Technical pro looks like they make some really good 15” and 18” pa sub drivers
Hey dereck
Would be great if you could test the chinese amp sinbosen k4-450 or k4-600
I bought a Rockville RPA9 for an additional amp to run a subwoofer. My primary amp is a Mitsubishi MVR1000 running a couple of RTR Towers with 15s. The line signal was too weak so I bought a Bellari PA550 pre amp for the Rockville. It's working good and bumping my 15 inch NVX subwoofer in a homemade 2.6 cu ft slot ported box.
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I would still love to have a copy of that guy doing the sine wave dance to show my students in electrical class lmao :) thanks as always bud!
Please send me an email WillistonAudio (at) Gmail dot com. I’m sorry if you asked before and I forgot
@@wal no worries bro! you're a busy man!! thanks for all the hard work you do making these great videos! e-mail sent brother!
Need to do a test on Rockville amps
Do a crown xli 3500 It weighs 50 lb and puts out 2,700 watts at 8 ohms. Or maybe peavey ipr2 7500. Claiming to put out 47500 watt at 2ohm. That would be interesting. Myself I chose the crown over the peavey.
I can’t test amps that powerful at this time. Amp Dyno has limits of 5000W at 4 ohms
*4750W @ 2ohm
@@elektrocat8681 Yes that's what I meant thanks for the correction I got a little keyboard happy you know how it goes
@@wal If your home/shop has sufficient power you can use a 60Hz test tone and hook a bunch of toaster ovens up to the output for ballast. A new rating of toaster ovens per channel is thus achieved! 😀 Funny story with 60Hz sine tones, many years ago I used my HiFonics Zeus Series 7 to power a circular saw and was able to cut studs as easily as if I had a generator. Even used TECHMASTER PEB "bassgasm" as a source. Lots of notes below 60Hz and the saw's motor brushes didn't like that too much and the amp went into protect a few times but no harm done. My side hurt from laughing so hard that day and the day after!
@@wal but could you test the xli 3500 for me please. I know you already test the xli 1500
I saw this amp and I’m so glad I purchased my Crown amp instead.
I'm curious how the TOA 900 series mixer / PA amps hold up. I've always liked these amps and they have very good sound.
I would love to see any of the higher wattage CVR-D Dyno Tested. They got stupid Bridge Power Output Claims, just curious to see how credible they are. But in any case, thanks for the video.
Yo dereck would you consider ever trying out the t.amp E1500? $249 + shipping n tax I have the E1200 and it prob hits rated for sure, good bang for buck amps.
Loving the content.half empty and the beef has run off lol.
Thank you for the review.. On a positive note, it could double as an air purifier/dust filter as it plays music with them stylish foam grilles😄
Just recently got ahold of there 21 frequency equalizer with LED display. And a LED power output display. I think it would be very cool if you did some videos on graphic displays that are available these days for home stereos since there are so many. I have yet to hook mine up
I just tore down a Pyle Bluetooth amp with mic inputs etc. exact same board and coil. Looks like a Chinese basic about board being used across multiple different amps. At least Pyles ratings were more conservative at 150x2 at 4 ohms lol.
As a pro audio guy, this made my head hurt!
No balanced inputs, no Speakon outputs.
Surprised to see that toroidal transformer inside. One that size is good for a legit 400W RMS.
This is like flea market grade shit!
Makes Behringer look like touring gear! LMAO!
At least look at it this way...if the fan noise annoys you, unplug them. The amp isn't going to overheat! hahahahaha!
Made those elacs bounce and sound good.
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For as long as I can remember, I have been looking up transistors in amp's via their model numbers. I will believe that before the wattage on the box
Thanks for sharing D. I'm sticking to my name brand amps like QSC, Crown, Mackie, etc.
Well 50 watts is about the going wattage for any Home audio power amp in that range. Which is basically what it's good for. Maybe to power ATMOS or rear speakers in a pre/pro surround system.
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I work for a company that sells actual professional hardware. You can get a legit 2000w 2-channel rack mount amp that's 9 pounds, believe it or not... but it won't be $110, and it sure won't use RCA in. 🙄 Definitely here for the entertainment. 👍️
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is there one within the range of 200-300 dollars used?
The 50V caps give the game away lol.
If you look up the company, they actually have a brick and mortar headquarters and decent looking website. I guess that's to help their image and make it look more legitimate, but otherwise it seems like "white van special" for flea markets and internet.
Also mildly funny that they went through the trouble of using an expensive toroidal transformer...that probably costs more than all the rest of the components in the amp combined. Maybe the new version will have a switch mode supply and concrete weights to save money. 😁
I like the pro audio content. Keep up the good work, hehe
Hi sir, can you please do a LOT more pro-amp testing? I'll like to see those Sinbosen Labgruppen and Powersoft clone amps tested.
Been watching your videos for a while and just subscribed. I just purchased a couple of inexpensive pro amps. Rockville RPA12 to run my old Cerwin Vega 12" house speakers and the Rockville D14 for my two Dayton Audio Ultimax 15's. They sound really good but was curious about the actual wattage. I would love for you to test these out on you amp dynoand get you input on value.
I think you should try hooking up a really good quality mixing console to that amplifier and try the dyno test again to see if the wattage is any higher.
Sounds interesting. Who’s buying? You? 🤣
@@wal I think you should buy yourself a really good quality mixing console with bass and treble controls and hook it up to the technical pro ax2000 amplifier and redo the dyno test to see if the wattage is any higher
🤣🤣 Well, kinda expected that... but was fun to watch!
Awesome job Derek 🤙 keep those videos coming friend.
I always worry about fan noise as well as hum. Not to mention inflated specs.
Where's the beef? Hell,where's the lettace? Had to request a dyno video. I got a arc audio (never seen one tested)very cheep for my work van. Its a 1100x5 ,and im absolutely blown away! Had the newer pioneer 5 channel.i heard amazing things about arc audio is why i took the time to replace the pioneer. This amp is rated way less then pioneer, but is insanely more powerful and the cleanest amp ive ever heard.figured i could at least ask.thanks
Arc seems to make great stuff. I might have one around here to test
@@wal thanks Big D
It would be cool to see how the Behringer stacks up.
Behringer iNuke NU1000 Amp Dyno Test
ruclips.net/video/Ibsvu1xownw/видео.html
You might try those Yamaha X1 Amp that I've seen everywhere. Not sure about that but it is rated at 350W and it's a 1U form factor at its about ±$100.
love these videos has a home audio user ...should do more avr's and power amps ...def some of the budget ones with big claims :p
In the plans for sure
Awesome video!
And yup I’m here for the entertainment!
awesome video.. hope to see some more pro audio stuff.. like the behringer ep2000 or ep4000..
especially since i own one of each lol. also my buddy has a crown pro amp that has rca inputs, and qsc has amps available with rca inputs as well
This is why you buy a qsc plx, series 2, rmxa amplifiers or go from with drive core xls or xli series.
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You should test some of these htib systems not the ones with receivers but the ones with disk players
I agree with all that you point out. As an owner of a McIntosh, Nakamichi & Klipsch based main system (very old but VERY good) ...I surprised myself & I did buy one of their products ...it was very cheaply priced & I intended to only use it for headphones on my flight sim. It was rated at a ridiculous 1,000 watts!!! I would be happy if it put out 10% of that so I took a chance & ordered one. However, I ended up liking it & I use it for our (Kitchen) sound system ...replacing an old, but pretty good Sony amp. It is not of the quality one would consider for critical classical music listening or such. But at the low price I paid, ...it sounds good & does a lot, so ...I've no complaints.
Better use would be a dust remover wit the 2 fans and foam filters and throw the rest away!
Well, I won't be replacing my NAD anytime soon.
No! Keep the NAD(s) 🤣