The Cheesy Potatoes Lady Didn't Deserve THIS...
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Freaky Eaters is the worst, and their "shock therapy" is just one reason why. The episode "Addicted to Cheesy Potatoes" with Kelly has to be one of the most iconic ...and best examples of how bad this show and it's "experts" can really be.
Featuring Dr Mike Dow and J.J. Virgin, Freaky Eaters is supposed to be an unflinching look at the most unusual and extreme eating habits, digging into the struggles of people living with strange food addictions and the dire health consequences they face.
But in reality - Freaky Eaters was over-the-top, generally unhelpful and felt like the only thing they cared about were TV views. The conduct of their experts is questionable and the "therapy" they treat their patients with on the show is absolutely insane. Let's dive in.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Imagine you have a strange addiction
1:13 - Freaky Eaters / Kelly's addiction to Cheesy Potatoes
4:40 - Shock "Therapy"
6:30 - ⚰️ Dead ⚰️
8:42 - Motivation Strategies
9:55 - Graded Exposure Therapy goes too far
12:50 - What do the "experts" do next
14:22 - The Final Test
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If someone hasn't eaten vegetables in ages, why would you give them a _brussels sprout_ of all things? Brussels sprouts are among the most bitter of common vegetables, and have one of the most intense scents/flavors. You'd be much better off with some fresh baby spinach or baby carrots, which can actually be a bit sweet. What would they offer someone who hasn't eaten fruit? A durian? A raw cranberry?
that's what I'm saying lol. Definitely a TLC set up
They ALWAYS choose divisive foods - celery, mushrooms, broccoli, brussel sprouts. Plenty of people who like a variety of foods dont like these. Why not go for raw oysters too!
I agree, people who love vegetables are not always eating brussel sprouts. It has a mushy texture and a strong smell. I personally love brussel sprouts, but I never boil them, I stir fry them with butter and garlic
Hold on... Bitter? Never have I eaten a brussel sprout and thought it was bitter. I get that someone might not like how cabbage and its relatives smell like farts and that because people often underseason and just plain boil certain vegetables to mush, they taste bland and feel gross but I've never tasted bitter in a brussel sprout. I think they taste slightly sweet actually.
@@PolarPandy i like roasting them with olive oil and seasonings.
omg that poor woman addicted to sugar literally just drowning in depression and that's what they did to her. I hope everyone involved with producing this show have suffered
Absolutely, that woman was obviously addicted, and while theres merit in reminding the person of the ultimate consequences, you dont fucking shock them cause guess what they are going to do? Go right back to what comforts them.
I knew someone who went on the show and it was so extremely staged. I know they need to dramatise for entertainment but they made his habits more extreme than they actually were. Instead of his usual food they decided he should eat pizza instead, so one unhealthy food to another. Daft programme.
I genuinely can’t watch that episode because it makes me so fucking depressed. I don’t think I saw someone so deeply sad at that point. Where was the support and safeguarding in place for this woman? I hope she’s doing better :(
I was young when I first saw this and I think it was a shock to the system to see how deeply, deeply sad everyday people could be behind closed doors.
Yes! She needs a psychiatrist not a shock therapy. Hope someone convinced her to go to the doctor.
J.J Virgin definitely got bullied as a kid for her name and uses TLC to take out her inner fantasies on actual victims
Obviously this is a reach, but you’d expect someone that is in the field of behaviour change would be more sensitive and take a more nuance view of habit change than showing someone a gravesite with their name on it
Very unsophisticated behaviour from the experts.
Only in America is being a virgin a bad thing
@@ElizabethUkeh wasn’t meant as a bad thing. Only the peculiarity of the surname Virgin is the concern. It’s like having the surname Seahorse
@@ElizabethUkeh I think it's worse in Europe and canada?
I always want to see these people get a full metabolic panel to see how nutrient deficiencies might be influencing them to eat weird foods.
And hormonal testing, also. Imbalanced hormones is a MAJOR culprit.
I never did eat it, but when I was severely anemic, cigarette ashes started looking and smelling incredibly delicious. And apparently iron *is* found in cigarette ashes. I didn’t know that before, so I don’t know how my body was picking up on that. Deficiencies are strange.
@@renharris6504 I struggled with anemia when I was younger but I never got any weird cravings, idk if that’s just me 🤔
@@angelica_eats69 Think blood counts near 5-6 when it should have been closer to 13 g/dl. 😅 Ice and clay are other common cravings with it, though it does vary from person to person!
It’s mainly from sensory issues actually!
They have literally NEVER mentioned ARFID on Freaky Eaters. AND they often suggest unsustainable diets for these poor people
honestly i don't think they even knew ARFID back then( giving benefit of the doubt they do now) .. they also didn't even look into her medical history or doing allergy test or further bloodwork than just a simple standard test, because there are many cases where people are allergic to certain foods but don't know it because their bodies reject eating them altogether
THE POOR SHOULD ONLY EAT LETTUCE!
ARFID wasn’t a thing until about ten years after this show aired. EDNOS would still have been relatively new
@@DougBurgum4VPmcdonalds is probably cheaper lmao
@@agnesmeow Doubt. McDonalds is pretty expensive tbh, at least here in Western Europe
I wonder if they advertise for their “therapists” the same way as they do for their talent:
“Hey!!! Do you technically have a medical license but never get work due to that silly ‘ethics’ nonsense?! COME JOIN TLC!!!”
hahahah
Well said!!!
My son has autism and sensory issues - his food avoidance is to the extreme, so we are no strangers to his gagging and throwing up a ton of different foods. It's crazy to watch these "professionals" treat this woman's eating problems in the completely wrong way!
I'm also autistic with a lot of sensory issues. Just thinking about some foods causes me start dry heaving and there's only a limited number of foods I can actually eat. It sucks but I literally have no control over it. I was also very ill as a child and spent a lot of time in hospital either unable to eat much or vomiting a lot. Pretty sure that added to my food issues and gave me a lot of trauma and avoidance around many foods.
see i would believe the autism thing but shes literally doing exactly what all the obese WOMEN do. idk if Kiana is even aware. so theres this form of codependency that happens in females where they revert back to a sort of child like mental state. She is literally SOBBING while being calmly asked to try a vegetable. autistic people often show anger or shut down when asked to do something they dont like. Also notice how shes a bit hairy. I suspect she has pcos , which can actually affect your cravings due to the hormonal fuckery going on. this woman has no signs of any autism , and actually shows signs of Mal Adapted PCOS coping. its more than likely she is hormonally dysregular and its manifesting in extreme toddler like emotions and is not AT ALL autism. i know you see your child in this woman because thats how basic human narcissism works , it can be translated to empathy for others, but not here. this is not an autistic woman. i can kinda really tell because i am autistic with extreme food issues and sensory issues. she shows absolutely no signs but ticks all the boxes for PCOS even her manish face as mean as that sounds. she is....manly looking. thats very much a sign of pcos (male hormone overflow in females)
@@onyxstewart9587 anyone who refuses to deal with trauma is just weak by nature and not worth much. i used to vomit so much i nearly died as an infant. now sometimes i gag just thinking of food. but guess what ? if i let autism control me im worthless. so guess what i said when i was offered COOKED LENGUA , BEEF TONGUE ? i accepted it. iforced my self to feel it , to taste it , to take it all in and let the man know who cooked it "thank you. i personally do not like it , but i can understand the appeal , it is cooked well" its called exposure therapy you fucking loser , get used to it.
No one is trying to diagnose her with autism, no need to have a meltdown
Do you have any suggestions for dealing with that or maybe just some insight into what's going on? My sister and roommate both have very limited diets(for different reasons) and I think it'd be helpful for me to learn some empathy (and neither will speak to their issues they just shut down).
The crazy part is that deli ham isn’t even healthy for you so they shouldn’t have forced it
It was infuriating to see 😡
That's what I was thinking. Of all the foods to force on her, they didn't even select a healthy food. She could go the rest of her life without eating ham and she could be completely healthy.
And who just makes a burrito full of deli ham anyways 🤦♀️ That was so stupid on many different levels.
If the goal is to break her fear and show her that other foods can be enjoyable and taste good, they should be giving her foods* that actually, yanno, _taste good._
But what do I know.
@@Crackpot_Astronautme when I'm high lol
It's proven to be carcinogen
My husband has ARFID. He's actually managed to expand his food selection a bit over the years. The solution was definitely not to shove a squishy unseasoned brussel sprout in his face, or throw a truckload of potatoes at him.
No, it's not helpful to throw a truck of potatoes, but it is very funny. Tlc is just selling entertainment wrapped in "at least I'm not as bad as those freaks" packaging.
One of my friends only ate plain roasted beef sandwiches, red hotdogs, chips, ahoy chewy chocolate chip cookies, and a glass of milk. He will literally not eat anything else. As an adult he started expanding his pallette after he started dating.
This is just a made up condition like how are you going to pathologise every single behaviour that people have?
I'm so sorry for your husband but i can't believe the so called experts are so bad that we have to explain something like this. The whole situation is so absurd it's funny
What about TWO truckloads?
The thing i hated about Freaky Eaters was how much food waste went into their "therapy". They would dump pounds of cheese into a truck full of filthy potatoes or line the ground with 1,000 hamburgers or put 50 steaks in a blender just to prove a point. That was perfectly good food that someone could have eaten!
I grew up poor. So i think its a sin to waste perfectly good food. 😂
So true. I got really mad at how much food they wasted
I so agree with you it made me sick that waste of so much food.
I know a lot of shows you’ll just old expired food that was already thrown away… but the food that they use looks FRESH
dude i feel like anyone would react that way to a single BOILED brussels sprout on a small plate 😭
Its like offering a vegan a plate of liver or something.
As a kid my mother forced me to eat a mandarin every day because I had trouble eating fruit (I still do) If I didn’t finish it fast enough she would hit me. Recently I was sitting in a lecture and I randomly got really intense chills. I looked beside me and my friend was eating a mandarin. These food sensitivities and trauma’s are real folks.
(My friend now moves a few chairs away when she wants to eat one. She’s great)
Don't keep accommodating the anxiety though. It will take over your life if you keep giving in. Go and hold a mandarin, sniff it, recognize that it has no power over you. Otherwise in a few years you're gonna find yourself terrified to walk down the fruit aisle in the grocery store.
Ohhh nooo those are my favourite fruits
@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920please don't tell someone with a trauma how to treat it if you aren't a licensed therapist in a formal setting willing to put your license on the line. If you have no understanding of neuroscience and psychiatry, you don't get to do that.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfrommeso you need a licence to suggest a solution?
@@Bryce_C. in situations like this? yes.
judging by the Slaton sisters' financial situation... I seriously don't trust TLC
My Strange Addiction finds the worst way to 'help' the mentally ill
The Slatons?
I wouldn't trust them after watching a couple episodes of My 600lb Life and knowing they get those shower scenes and loads of nudity just because they offered a bonus.
What financial situation are they in?
why would they fix their content? LMFAO
I feel so bad for those two ladies. They both seem so sweet and trusting and TLC just went full "you're both freaks so let's make your life even more miserable mode". How sad.
misery porn is such a big part of tlc in general. i also have a lot of sympathy for people who also are "picky eaters". i have autism so a lot of the time ill have a specific safe food for a couple months but some foods no matter how hard i try i physically cant eat(i love the concept of sweet potatoes... but alas) the way people treat others with eating issues or other mental health issues can be so awful sometimes
Yea I'm also on the spectrum sad truth in life if you stand out you will be picked out. I don't think any amount of social conditioning acceptance will ever stop our monkey/lizard brains to stop.
I can function but people pick up on it eventually and I still catch myself judging people who are essentially the same as me or a different kind of issue. Except in my case I don't smack talk or be disrespectful or mean of their only issue is some kind of mental issue.
I'm a vegetarian and legit LOVE veggies...but I might lowkey burst into tears if someone made me eat brussel sprouts too. They're just really godawful.
For me it depends how it was prepared-if it’s steamed and unseasoned, then yes, that’s awful. But if it’s roasted with seasonings and bacon then I’ll happily eat it.
@@virgofairy88 yes!! Balsamic glazed oven roasted brussel sprouts are delish
I feel like people who grew up eating only lunchables have this mindset. Brushless sprouts taste like cabbage, there's nothing bad or disgusting about them. Unless they've been boiled for some reason smh
Edit: brushless sprouts. Lol
I truly don’t get the constant brussel sprouts slander 😭 They’re absolutely delicious, seasoned and unseasoned. Loved eating plain steamed sprouts even as a child.
@@zvezdoblyatthe fuck I love all vegetables accept for Brussels sprouts and asparagus
The woman never eats anything else but cheese and potatoes.... what could we possibly offer her to encourage her to start trying new stuff?
How about brussel sprouts, one of the most universaly hated vegetable? and boiled at that, just to make sure it is absolutely foul 🙄
Edit: nevermind, you said the same 😂
istg i have no problem eating vegetables but brussel sprouts and broccoli make me gag
@@nostradamus1162 It took me years before I could handle a brussel sprout, then again my parents would boil it to death and force me to eat it whole shrieking and screeching at me when I gagged and couldn't force myself to swallow it, then complained I developed excessive pickiness to having a borderline eating disorder.
I can eat them now when cut up small and without my parents around.
They should have put cheese on a different veggie for her and not plain brussel sprouts. I like vegetables and wouldn't have eaten that brussel sprout smh
@@hyperplaguerat exactly! why not give her e.g. cauliflower cheese??
I love Brussels sprouts, I actually love all vegetables. But I know people who hate vegetables and why would anyone force an adult to eat them? Especially Brussels sprouts!
I think the same could be said about Dr. Phil too. he hasn't been licensed for quite some time and as someone who's been to therapy before, the way he talks to his guests is really problematic. especially how he talks to vulnerable teens, and the whole controversy with the ranch he likes to send them to.
I also feel like the shock therapy segments are more for the audience's entertainment than for the betterment of the freaky eater. so the ppl watching can go "omg how gross" which is also quite demeaning to the person who needs help.
dr phil made bhad baby by platforming her unprofessionally for content
@llenaaangel Don't even get me started on Dr. Phil! The man is incompetent, unethical and abusive to his guests/clients. Dr. Oz is another who causes harm by promoting scammy pseudoscience. Fame & money can be as addictive as cheesy potatoes...and opiates.
Dr Phil isn’t licensed to prescribe medicine anymore, but he has as much education as therapists have with psychology.
Qqq
The shock therapy segment reminds of the old-school parental technique of getting kids to quit smoking by forcing them to smoke an entire carton to the point of nausea. Sure it puts them off for a week, but they're back smoking and more addicted than before.
Sure, let’s force feed a kid nicotine, a highly addictive substance. What could go wrong?
My friend told me about a time when we were in high school and some NGO or whatever came to her school to preach not smoking. What they did was make the kids smell an ashtray full of cigarette butts and ashes that were days old. Because my friend's sense of smell is pretty weak, when she said she couldn't feel anything, they almost shoved her nose into the ashtray. Let me tell you that nobody who was already a smoker had decided to quit that day just because they were made to smell cigarette ashes.
I have autism and sensory issues, on top of food trauma from abusive parents. The Freaky Eaters episode about the man addicted to mac and cheese was very triggering. Mac and cheese was the food I ate almost exclusively at one point.
His and the "experts" comments were about how he won't make friends because of his habit.
My parents would use that against me. They always told me people would hate me for my limited palate and "good luck dating".
I wanted to cry after hearing how beaten down he seemed.
I got actual therapy for my food trauma. I also found love during this, something my parents said wouldn't happen because of my palate.
I still love mac and cheese, but it's not as prevalent in my life anymore.
I'm also a lot more willing to try foods now!! My fiance encourages me. His support has meant so much. He actually cared. Instead of telling me I'll die young and will live a lonely life.
I never thought I'd actually get better.
🥺🥺🥺🥺 ❤❤❤ this is so wholesome , I hope you only get better from here
I'm so sorry for what you had to go through love 💜💜
I'm glad that you found love and emphaty and that your doing well 😊
The world needs more understanding people like your fiance. I feel like a lot of people don't understand the psychology behind the whole concept of "not eating something". The assumption often seems to be that human beings naturally eat as much as possible and as much variety as possible. There is some evolutionary truth to that but it's also important for us as a species to have different tastes and preferences. If your senses of smell and taste are more sensitive, you're gonna be less likely to get food poisoning and you might be able to warn others as well. In some cases the sensitivities might be extreme and overall very unhealthy, but nowadays it's easier to deal with them - technically, because of the variety of available foods, cooking techniques and supplements. And we also have more psychological knowledge - it just has to become more mainstream.
@@nehalilisaysMy fiance is great about that. I'm a borderline vegetarian and he's helped me find alternative protein sources. I like to weight train and lacking protein is not great if that's your hobby. 😂
Wow... Someone like me? I'm not kidding, we have the same story, though I bounce back and forth between doing better and worse about expanding beyond mac and cheese. I've done a lot better in the last couple years since seeing it through the lens of autism (actually diagnosed) and ARFID (self-diagnosed) but it remains a struggle. The judgement from people can be the hardest part... They call me a "vegetarian who won't eat vegetables" most of the time. Other than the guy in the online episode who was addicted to mac and cheese I haven't seen anyone else with this particular issue... Let me know if you'd like to chat, lol
This is Sam the heroin addict!
To show him the weight his addiction put on his life we made Sam walk around the block carrying a kilo of heroin!
Literally so ridiculous 💀
Great video Kiana
TLC; *Shows Sam a grave made of H*
Me; Is he supposed to be repulsed by it or dive in?
My sister has ARFID also as a result of being placed with relatives who did not respect her dietary wishes (she is vegetarian and they snuck meat into her food, plus there was an issue with food storage causing a lot of food to be infected with bugs. Which they would serve to her. AND be offended when she didn’t want it!) like most eating disorders, my opinion is that they arise from a lack of control. Slipping this woman ham without her knowledge is pretty much the worst possible advice I could come up with.
Can't she leave their house?
@@ElizabethUkeh "placed" sounds like a foster system term, she probably has not much say.
Ouch. That sounds horrid. I’m also a vegetarian and have been since I was literally born. I’ve tried meat like twice but haven’t been able to even swallow it because it was just so disgusting to me so I can’t imagine someone sneaking me meat. The only times I have was an accident made by a restaurant
@@ElizabethUkeh she was a child
I am so sorry for her. My mother would put some meat in my meals when I was a younger vegetarian and I would throw it up, since I became vegetarian not only for ethicaI reasons but also it disgusted me. I developed trust issues and now I don't trust her to cook my food
Good rule of thumb: If someone's gonna put you on TV, they're not trying to help you.
Audiences don't want to watch someone get better, they want to watch a freak show. Producers know that, and they'll deliver that freak show, no matter how much harm they cause to vulnerable people.
I love how respectful you are towards the people featured in these shows. Situations are often more complicated than they seem at first glance, especially when that glance is edited with ulterior motives.
As a real therapist this makes me so angry, these people deserved so much better
Essentially, they are exploiting people suffering from possible mental illnesses or some sort of physiological condition.
So they have no personal responsibility.
We all do, but they deserve to get sympathy, for what?
To put this into context, I went through an eating disorder therapy and it took me 3 months, to get to the point where my councilor thought I should be left alone with my therapy tools.
3 months.
They've spent maybe 3 hours with her total..
maybe i'm just soft but hearing that woman explain why she was addicted to sugar was so depressing it damn near brought me to tears
I feel like this show is really cruel to these people. They know they have a problem, they admit that openly and that’s why they’re on the show. But everyone treats them like they’re just being stubborn and don’t care, and they deserve to be ridiculed because they’re freakish and bad. TLC in general should be called the Freak Show Channel.
The "shock therapies" from this show is not to help the victim. It's just a strategy to draw in more viewers.
Doctor Mike reaction to the show perfectly captures how the producers think
Suffering from ARFID I’ve always found these shows very sad. I also get made fun of for my eating but it’s so difficult to get help because there’s so much stigma.
When I was younger I was addicted to watching stuff on TLC and now that I’m older I realize that most of their shows if not all are just toxic. I am however glad that you are analyzing these shows. I love the commentary!
I HATE how they treated the people on 'extreme cheapskates' one of the women was relentlessly bullied for stuff the producers forced her to do for entertainment
One other thing that I absolutely loathe about this show is when they do a "test" at the near end of the episode to see if the freaky eater will give in to temptation. The one that comes to mind is the woman who had an ice cream addiction, developed after a divorce with her husband. After the so called help she received from these two, they threw a celebration at her house. They then had a server go to the woman and asked if she wanted ice cream- in front of everyone. She didn't accept, but it's pretty much like trying to give a person a drug when they're nearly out of the addiction.
Also, I feel like the ultimate goal is to be able to eat ice cream in moderation. It's not wrong of her to have ice cream on occasion, so being shamed for giving in at all....rubs me entirely the wrong way.
I always think of the pizza guy who accepted the pizza and ate it right in front of them
Just teaching her how to make an actual cheese sauce out of butter, milk, flour and actual cheese, instead of whatever weird fake chemical cheese she's eating out of a jar, would probably go a long way in improving her health alone.
I both have an Autism spectrum disorder and work with those with ASDS, so I have at least a general idea about "picky" eating. You know the most common way to NOT get people with ASD or something similar to eat new foods? FORCE IT ON THEM. It has to be on their terms, and yes it can be seen as troublesome (primarily to "normal" people who see these kind of things as a "problematic behavior") but you don't just shove food down someone's throat (metaphorically) and expect them to like it.
Fun fact: there is a gene that determines whether you can taste bitterness strongly. One chemical responsible for bitterness in vegetables is called PTC and some people can’t taste it all whereas others can a have a very strong reaction to it. Not saying that’s exactly what’s going on here, but it can be a factor in a picky vs non-picky eater, especially at a young age. :’)
If you feel addicted to cheesey potatoes the best veggie to try would be graded up cauliflower.
It’s related to the brassicas family and has more nutrients than a potato but still is a very starchy vegetable and like a potato, will go great with cheeses. A fruit that tastes almost like a potato are fried plantains in batter. Different nutrients and really delicious.
Tastes almost like a fried and sugared potato with seasoning and they are a bit harder than most fruits too. Texture is amazing.
Starting our small with veggies and fruits is really good if you find them very hard to eat. Texture and feeling with taste is everything to people that find it hard to eat other foods. Love chicken nuggets and their textures? You might really enjoy chickpeas mashed and baked with chicken seasoning! :)
I’ve eaten chicken corn dogs for the last week because of my own struggles
I thought it was rather cruel to put ham in her wrap. It must be traumatic. I have a phobia of peas 🫛 I’ve never liked them all my life. The more I was forced to eat them the more I hated them
You’re scared of peas? (Hugs) get therapy that’s worse than my stress eating get help
I feel so bad for this poor woman!! When I was 11, I remember eating so much chocolate one night that I was throwing it all up the next day. I can still recall the awful smell, it's burned into my memory. It took a long time until I felt okay enough to try chocolate again, and anytime I think I'm eating too much, that same smell comes back to my senses and I'm grossed out all over again. I can't imagine the pain and fear she goes through with a trusted family member forcing her to eat something she didn't like and the trauma that caused at such a young age! I hope she's getting the help she needs.
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@@KianaDocherty omg no wayyyy ahhhhhhhhh have a great day kiana!!!
@@kristins8438 you too!!!
lmfao kelly carrying the potatoes around the block is the dumbest thing LOL
That show is the literal embodiment of that Sailor Moon meme.
"My work here is done."
"But you didn't do anything..."
"Until next time!" *disappears*
I am so glad you talked about this!
I'm an ARFID (Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, the one discussed here) survivor and let me tell you, that disorder is *hell.* I think half the people on this show have it, and the way these "professionals" treat them is almost heartbreaking. I'm very frustrated by their behavior, and it isn't even effective. It hurts me to know that so many people find this funny or think it's what the patients deserve. It hurts me to know it further decreases sympathy for other sufferers of ARFID.
This show is old (from the late 2000s - early 2010s) and ARFID was virtually unknown.
1:46 they served her a brussel sprout with absolutely NO seasonings and no butter on it? No wonder she gagged! They set her up to fail.
I personally love brussel sprouts but even I have to admit they can be gross if you don’t add butter or at the very least salt, or if it’s cooked wrong.
I would have gagged too. That’s not how anyone eats brussel sprouts for god’s sake.
This is a horrible thing to do to someone with disordered eating, purposefully giving them a food that wouldn’t be that tasty even if someone with normal eating habits ate it.
Purposefully making it seem like she is being dramatic, knowing that she already has a hard time eating. I know it’s TLC and that’s what they do, they exploit people because they don’t care but jesus, was she not already enough of a show for them? This is horrible.
Nobody eats a cooked brussel sprout without any salt or butter on it. It’s just not done. At least not by the majority of people. I feel so bad for her.
Thanks for hearting my comment! I’m so happy 😊 I love your videos, I’ve been binge-watching your channel all week ❤️😊
personally I go for the vinegar when it comes to brussel sprouts
Of course they did, they thrive off drama, that's how they get views! No different than on Hell's Kitchen
I love roasted garlic Brussel sprouts but give them to me just boiled and I wouldn't bother eating it. Like why didn't they cook them in cheese like she does with potatoes?
I actually love brussel sprouts with nothing added, except salt during boiling. I feel like adding butter would make me gag lol
Wow. This was so frustrating to watch as a mom of a daughter with sensory issues. We did almost a year of weekly therapy and practiced here at home every day to help her. It's slow, it's a process. Ain't no way you're going to help someone with shock and betraying their trust.
I have ARFID caused by medication taken early as a child that messed with my eating habits and taste buds as well. It's very hard to deal with. I have a large roster of safe foods now, but still if none of my safe foods are available I will not eat.
This channel has some of the highest quality videos. Like me with food, I tend to have instant gratification for short cheap entertainment. I should be watching more documentaries like thse.
The show is basically just
HEY!!! Look at that weirdo, really, really weird- ok thats it, GOODBYE!
I’m still not over the name ‘JJ Virgin’
It's a lovely name
I was up ‘til 1am making potatoes au gratin, with homemade cheese sauce, using buttermilk.
When prepared with the correct ingredients, it certainly can be part of a balanced diet.
In all fairness, I made it to go with steak and carrots with green beans - all cooked in tallow/leaf lard and butter (all organic, minus the Costco steak).
I am autistic and this is my comfort meal formula - meat (beef is the only meat I feel satiated from), certain vegetables, potatoes or rice.
Sounds great
As someone who was once in a relationship with some who has ARFID, thank you. It was great to hear someone discuss the disorder in this context to highlight this heartbreaking issue. It needs more representation because not many people realize their eating habits, if toxic, do stem from this and has therapies aligned to tackle this disorder.
It's so sick how they intentionally traumatize and humiliate people for views while patting themselves on the back and pretending they're helping, then when it doesn't work they turn around and blame the victim for not completely getting over an issue that has plagued them for decades in the span of a few days. So many TLC shows are like this, they're awful.
I remember when a kid was able to turn on cable TV, go to The Learning Channel, and quite literally watch open heart surgery in the 1990s. I miss actually good television.
0:42 the way i thought they were dennis and dee from its always sunny 😂😂
Thanks for another great piece of content! Man, the cheesy potato lady is such an internet classic!
LOL internet classic!😂 Totally agree
There was a UK TV show called Fat Families where they made actual coffins with nameplates of the families on and it fully distressed the mother of the family! It was billed as pulling no punches but it was horrific
😐😐😐😐😐😐 wow
oh god I remember that episode. the host was a right cunt as well
Did they at least let them keep the coffins?
@@His-Most-Catholic-Majesty To be fair they are expensive haha!!
One of the things that I do to compensate for my ARFID is to try and smuggle some extra nutrition into my safe foods. I've cut up some baby spinach to look like fresh thyme and disguised it as part of the seasoning. I also make pancakes with three times as many eggs, plus whole grain flour, etc.
I didn't even know what ARFID was a few years ago and it was such a relief to find an answer to why I'm like this. A real answer. Trouble is, there's a huge lack of treatment options and research still. I'm considering trying out hypnosis even, all while I'm waiting for my treatment at a clinic I'm queueing for. They're anorexia, bulimia and binge focused, so I've no idea how they're going to tackle my ARFID. It's scary to think about. But I'll try anything.
It's a very isolating condition and there's so much shame. I've felt like a freak, and a weak-minded brat. I'm a woman well grown into my 30s now and I'm more open now that there's a name for it... which does make people judge less.
Because I am mainly picky due to texture, I like to make foods that involve pureed or powdered vegetables. It allows me to eat things I otherwise wouldn't comfortably.
I kinda had the same reaction to Kelly when I first saw her story, and then I saw another story about a young man who only ate Mac N Cheese. I think it was done by VICE. Anyway, it did a much better job of letting him explain that he can tell if his meal was cooked in a different pot than what he's used to; that his gag reflex will literally kick in if there's too much difference from what he's used to. TLC really made Kelly seem like she was just spoiled and dramatic, instead of someone suffering from a very real disorder. She wouldn't have contacted the show if she didn't want to change.
Okay but what if Kelly just can't eat ham? I can't eat fish, but it doesn't give me an allergic reaction, so it's possible that poor woman simply can't eat it like I can't with fish. I can't imagine how horrible that would be and how badly it'd send her back if that's the case and she hadn't stopped after the first bite- you feel like you might be able to do something finally and then you eat something your body physically cannot digest and puke it all up, and you're back to square one or maybe even worse off because your biggest fears have just come true and you can't eat new foods at all because they'll just make you sick to your stomach.
Being intolerant of certain foods isn't even an uncommon thing, either, so how could "professionals" not think that could possibly be the case for her, especially since Kelly threw up as a child from eating ham specifically? And I'm willing to bet it is, because that one bite did make her queasy, and that's how it is for me and seafood.
Because these "professionals" believe that any sort of food intolerance is just "in your head". Personally, I can't handle Allium, it's very quickly too much for my body, for some reason. Onions, leeks, garlic, etc. all trigger migraines. I often have to pretend to be allergic because people straight up do not believe consuming those plants hurt me otherwise.
I wonder if the “experts” thought she was faking or something and if they just can sneak in the food she will notice she will love ham. I don’t think they feel the “freaks” have real issues but are more stubborn.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 People often assume picky eaters don't actually dislike foods and if you just pretend it isn't there they'll be fine with it. They are almost always wrong. No, you cannot just pick the ham and onions off my pizza. I will still taste them. No you can't just hide an entire vegetable in my food. I'm not freaking blind I can literally see it... etc etc. They always seem surprised, somehow.
Hey Kiana, I'm 400lbs, and I really like watching your videos, they give me a lot of perspective, a bit of motivation, and overall a lot to think about.
You are not a "fat shamer" or a person that hates fat people, you're just someone that is in persuit of truth, and someone who likes to share those discoveries with people in hopes that they get something good out of it - or at least that's how I view you.
I think that people my size (or just people who are obese or have a bad relationship with food) often feel personally attacked when they hear things they don't like. Personally, I believe that's their problem.
I don't really live a healthy life, I'm quite sedentary; whenever I find it in me I change my eating and excersize habits for a few months and lose some weight (typically 30-60lbs over 2-4 months). (Total overall weight loss in my life, [most of which i've gained back plenty of times] is about 190lbs)
I'm lucky enough to have good bloodwork results, low inflamation, no diabetes etc but that isn't the case for many others, nor is it really the point.
I think that people who struggle with their weight prefer to seek validation for their way of life in order to feel better rather than go down the route of changing their life style because it's more convenient.
It's true that the western way of life is very out of sync with how our bodies have evolved and it's detrimental to our physical and mental health, and a lot of these things feel very systematic and "out of our control" I do believe that. "Healthier foods" ie nutrient-dense rather than calorie dense and nutrient-lacking foods are more difficult, time consuming, inconvenient and expensive in contrast to their unhealthy counterpart, but I do think that we should take more responsibility for the actions we CAN take to fix this.
I'm obviously 400lbs, which puts me in an interesting position, because I'm not a healthy weight, but i've also seen what it takes to be healthy, and I think (and know) that for most of us, we have control over it but we make excuses.
However: I do understand that "shaming" and "bullying" people for their size is absolutely detrimental to people's mental health, and physical health as well, I don't advocate for shaming or bullying.
What I do advocate for though is education, as well as the overall acceptance of people at whichever sizes they may be. Not in a way that advocates for people to gain weight or to eat in a more dangerous way, but in a way where people can live and let live, on a personal level when they meet someone. (Not on a large scale when they see that children are becoming more obese every year due to low quality food, but more like, seeing a fat person and not immediately changing their attitude towards them based on their size)
For example,
Some people might be angry that i'm 400lbs or upset, or grossed out. I wish we lived in a world where they weren't so emotionally charged about something that doesn't affect them.
Anyways, thank you for what you do, it's helpful, not hateful.
Get some help get healthy one day at a time you will get there
TLC shows inspire me to lose weight so i don't end up on a show on TLC
Ive rewatched freaky eaters so many times, i remember the girl who only at fries in a specific way and cried over a purple fry. So many people have trauma or childhood problems that i feel so sorry for but freaky eaters doesnt really help them that will stick forever.
I recently discovered Afrid while googling why I get so grossed out by food, even food I like, all the time. It’s so frustrating that my whole life I was called a picky eater when I literally couldn’t stomach certain foods
IT’S THAT TIME OF THE MONTH, THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!
LOL time of the month... nOOO
I honestly feel her so much. As a person with ASD, OCD, ADHD and ARFID, eating properly and building healthy eating habits is almost impossible. I am fighting with it til being a small kiddo and thankfully I learned how to manage these issues to a certain degree so at least my body is not suffering due to this (even when it is awfully mentally taxing and not pleasant at all) but hey, without proper help (that TLC will provide anything but that) is awfully hard or even impossible.
I am still gagging badly many times when eating something with a structure, texture, visual presentation, colour, temperature or some secondary after taste I do not like. Usually I am always trying to hide this specific textures with adding some I like to make it at least bearable (like adding chicken meat with specific spices I like into a veggie mix with the same spices so I will mask it at least a little so I can get at least something healthy in my body without vomiting immediately). The unfortunate truth tho is that for a person like me, ultra process junk will be always the most appealing choice for many reasons. One is that it is always same everywhere and second that it is usually engineered into being super delicious with many enhancers etc. and with no weird textures of after taste or whatever really. So yea, making healthy eating habits with crap like ARDIF or ASD + OCD combo is just super hard thing to do. Combine it with ADHD and ye, even when you finally find some healthy home cooked food that fits you, you won't make it bcs it is a lot of work. :/
The motivation part perked my ears up. Good to know that motivation is a component of behavior change!
I’m autistic and recovering from a horrifically painful relationship with food, so I completely understand where Kelly is mentally. The fact these “experts” don’t realize they’re causing her more harm than they are helping her makes me sick. It’s not just unethical, but all around cruel. Kelly deserves so much better and ACTUAL help, not those goons down at TLc
I have ARFID and people just don’t know about it! I have a much less severe form than this lady, but it still resulted in stunted growth and delayed puberty as a teenager. People think I’m just a picky eater and that I’m being dramatic, but the idea of eating my fear foods will literally trigger a panic attack. I would be unable to put the food in my mouth. Thank you for raising awareness for this little known eating disorder, and for calling out the awful things that these “experts” did to Kelly
I have autism and ARFID. The way the “experts” handled this was absolutely appalling. I actually saw this episode when I was a teenager and her story has stuck in my mind ever since. I get flashes of her reaction when she tried that brussel sprout. I have similar reactions to meat and lots of other textures. Gagging, shaking, nausea, extreme anxiety. This show probably made her food issues worse in the long run. I hope she’s doing better now and has gotten some proper help from REAL experts.
I wish they also would've *added* things in to her current diet. I see that they somewhat did that with the lettuce in addition to the cheesy potato wrap, but to expect someone to just pivot from one thing to completely cutting it out is just setting them up for failure (like we know from like?? all fad diets??). I think it could help to maybe blend some sweet potato or butternut squash with the cheese, like a tiny TINY amount, and then inch it up, little by little. Then you are introducing some more vitamins to her diet while gradually changing the "norm" of the tastebuds so that, when she maybe then tries a butternut squash soup, for example, there is a familiarity there. Also it means the texture change wouldn't be as radical and disconcerting. Idk I'm not an expert, but it's the same kind of principle I used when I was looking after kids and wanted them to have more "hidden veggies". But of course, that would actually require genuine effort from TLC and clearly that's just too much to ask for /s
This is literally the meme thats like "My work here is done" "But you didn't do anything" *Swooshes cape and disappears*
I really enjoy your videos, they are entertaining and very informative ❤
I’ve never been this early to a video before! Keep up the good work!
What goes on in a functioning hospital or clinic does not make for a good TLC show (would be "too boring" for reality tv). The best format tends to be retrospective stories (or a case study). I would think the same applies for psychotherapy.
It would have been so much better to start her off with foods similar to her safe food, things like peppers mixed in with her potatoes or broccoli and cheddar. In the meantime she should probably be taking vitamin supplements to make up for the dietary restriction
Thank you so much for discussing this! I appreciate you being light to this topic!
I love your thoughtful and in depth commentary! You do an amazing job at explaining the issues and providing background knowledge! Much appreciated! Keep up the good work Kiana!
I just love so much the depth and scientific explanations she gives in all of her videos, getting herself inside everyone's mind and story making you feel like you are in it too..Great job Kiana!
Reminiscent of that simpsons episode with Flanders’ parents; “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”
I love your videos and how you offer a better take on these TLC shows. Rather than making fun of the contestants, you have compassion.
Poor sugar lady, she wasn't even big just really depressed and they really hit her with the "you gonna die". Jeez Louise.
As somebody with ARFID, how you prepare the meal really matters. And you need to let the person pick which food from the different food groups they try first. Just throwing them in the deep end with a burrito full of things YOU pick out or a salad full of, again, multi-ingredient raw crap is not going to go well. Texture, presentation and smell are everything. Our 5 senses are like a dog's so our sense of disgust is always on an 11. If a food resembles vomit (stew, chili, ground beef, etc), I'm not going near it. It's normal for kids to go through a picky phase of not liking broccoli or something but the whole "everyone must eat everything like I do" ideology is ableist & overlooks the fact that autistic people, supertasters & others exist.
I love the empathy you approach these topics with!! It goes to show you can be compassionate and tell an interesting story at the same time.
omg Thank you for bringing up ARFID! The struggle is real, and it's not talked about or known nearly enough. I struggle with it myself (although not at such an extreme degree) and the amount of times I get called just "picky" or "difficult" is really sad. It affects a lot of people in many different ways, and it's so important that more information is spread.
brother i just wanna thank you for getting into the content creation game. i found your channel through the dehydration video and i’ve been hooked ever since. food science, TLC/Reality TV, all sprinkled with your very pleasant personality have created a perfect storm of consuming most of my down time 😭 i hope you never stop making videos, you’re the best 🤙🤙
the worst part is the way she sounds at the end talking about how bad it is and how she cant hold herself back almost sounds like she now resents herself for this addiction, making everything far worse
She probably DOES resent herself. I am picky- not as bad as her, but during some parts of my life I came pretty close to it- and people shame you for it your whole life and insist something is MORALLY wrong with you, not mentally wrong. Insist that it's your fault and you should feel bad about it. That you're being rude and childish. That you need to just get over it. Everyone with a condition like this resents themself for it at some point. Normally I don't make blanket statements like that... but in this case, there really is no avoiding feeling shame over this for at least a little while. Even when you're usually confident, sometimes you'll be trying to eat something and it just won't work and you don't understand why, and you have to tell the person who just cooked it that actually, even though I said this is one of the few foods you can make for me that I'd like, I was wrong and I hate it and I made you go through all this effort for nothing. And when it happens, you feel like the worst person in the world. And that person, even though they're normally accepting, will probably eventually make a snide remark about your eating habits out of frustration. And then it'll all get even worse.
Thank you for making these videos! I love you using your voice to help these people & sticking up for these contestants of TLC exploitation. ❤️❤️
Your videos get me really thinking, Kiana. Not just about the mental and physical health implications of overeating and lack of exercise but also about making more of my own lifestyle changes on my own volition with your help. You motivate me, and I’m sure you motivate others because of your compassion and concern towards people around food habits and exercise.
You are awesome and never forget that!❤
I'd love to see your opinion on the UK version of the show. The episodes are twice as long and, from what I remember, they actually do a fair bit of therapy
I was an extremely picky eater for most of my life and it used to lead to a lot of arguments with my mom and other family members. It was really difficult trying to make people understand that I felt like gagging any time I had food I didn't like, they usually didn't take me seriously. But when I met my ex, it was a completely new dynamic, he loved cooking but wouldn't pressure me in trying new foods or berate me if I didn't like something, he made food seem a lot more fun and appealing, and over the years I got over it and now I actually love trying new foods ! I think those "experts" are pretty much the kind of people who believe that you need to be brutally forced into the situation that gives you anxiety to be able to get over it, a "tough love" kind of thing, very much like the kind of people I grew up around. But it just doesn't work for everyone, in fact I'm willing to bet it's the wrong approach for most people.
My mom shoved chicken into my mouth and threatened to put it down my throat because I didn't want to try it. Then wondered why I didn't like to try foods... and of course she never looked it up, because why would you try to understand your kids when you can just force them to pretend to be normal? ...which is also stupid because as is evidenced by the fact I never started trying foods, you in fact, CANNOT force them to pretend to be normal. All you can do is let out your anger on them and pretend you're making them normal by doing so.
Love your videos!!! I was just binging your videos (again) and saw this one uploaded! ❤ thanks for providing such interesting content!
literally thinking this is just tlc milking this poor womans issues for publicity bc she thought they could help her. i feel so bad for her, and i hope she's actually getting the help she deserves, and is getting better. she seems super sweet and not deserving of this treatment at all.
i've been on a binge of your vids recently and they're all so good lol keep it up!!
You know your audience so well. I was just watching your videos 😂
What disgusts me the most about this show is that they’re taking advantage of these poor folks who live in a country where the cost of behavioral health services are so high and providers are often scarce. Even if you have health insurance it often does not cover the therapy that these people need, and many therapists don’t even accept insurance at all.
I hope that Kelly was able to see a real therapist after this, although I doubt it. I don’t know how these “experts” can look themselves in the mirror after seemingly doing more harm than good to her and others on the show. They both should have their respective licenses suspended/revoked
THANK YOU. I saw that show years ago and thought their “experts” were dangerous quacks and the way they act seems like they have no appreciation for the potential consequences of meddling with peoples heads. I’m so glad I’m not the only one to see that
i love the empathy you give to people struggling with their weight/eating, very sad how rare it is
Hello!! Once again its your singular Polish fan :) Great content as usual. We got TLC in Poland, so we are being flooded with their s***y content!
LOL Hi!!! Omg Polish TLC must be wild
Two now. :) I didn't even know we got TLC but I am not watching TV and we don't have cable so there's that.
I'm polish too, so it's 3
Lol this reminds me of Dr. Nowzardan from My 600 Pound Life where one of his patients who’s morbidly obese says “I’m a picky eater” and the dr. says “you’re 600 pounds! You’re not a picky eater!” 😂
I'm a picky eater = I don't eat anything with low sugar/salt content
5:46 "Kelly what do you want to say to these cheesy potatoes?" had me in stitches.
You inspire me so much 💛