This was stuck on purpose for training. These things, when all 8x8 are locked in, in low range ... well they will go anywhere. This was stuck on purpose to train in recovery. These rigs are amazing in every way, unless operated by an inexperienced operator ... then you have trouble!
As an owner of a M977 HEMTT I can't work out why he is chaining it up down there under the cab. There are two front recovery points at the front of the cab, that are meant for this purpose.
My guess is more training..... What if those front hooks aren't useable for whatever reason...... Gotta figure out how to get it out when everything goes to shit
Ok now from a person who used to work and drive these awesome trucks, 1. He has 8x8 drive which he is not engaging 2.Most all of these do have a winch so getting stuck in this video is just for training, which is the H8 Identifier which means a Recovery Specialist. These are awesome Cargo trucks never seen one stuck before have driven them where most fear to tread.
I'm not gonna lie, some of those vehicles do not have properly working drive trains, so even on a 6wd (USMC MTVR) or ea us army 8wd LSV or the USMC'S 10wd LVSR can get horribly stuck. I drove the USMC MTVR "7 ton" often, and had some drive trains that only locked 2 out of the 6 wheels it has.
@@borivojetravica569 Also, modern electronic devices on any kind of vehicles including luxury boats and airplanes, are not reliable.Old school technology the best!
We always just called a SPLL when we got ours stuck, they couldn’t always pull the HEMTT and HEMAT at the same time, though. I enjoyed being in the SPLL a lot more LOL. The key with a HEMTT is to go in with plenty of momentum. Tighten your seatbelt, secure all the loose stuff in the cab, and hit it HARD!
SS 81 HEMAT is Heavy Expanded Mobility Ammunition Trailer, there were 2 models, M989 and M989A1. The M989 was an actual trailer, very easy to back up but top-heavy and with marginal axles. The M989A1 was a wagon, with a much lower deck between the front & rear axles, and very difficult to back up.
When I was in the Seabees I worked in transportation at the training center. I was a equipment operator and drove all of the trucks. This was years ago when we still used what they did in Vietnam. I would take the duce and a halves on the Amtrak course. This was in Gulfport Mississippi. The water would be coming in the doors ,what a blast.
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Yeah its a training film,keep those manicured fingers off the 8x8 switches and interlocks, and then prepare for in case you cannot attach to the normal tow points. Nothing is fair in battle.
No kidding..... Simulating getting the truck stuck..... What if the diff lock had failed..... Gotta learn how to recover when it all goes to shit..... I'm sure the truck could have self recovered, but I understand what they're training for
Wesley Howard i went t h8 at va and they never did that. And i don’t understand why they wrapped the chain around the frame to pull instead of the points in the front
inexperienced operators the HEMMIT is not in 8X8 By only selecting 8X8 note all of the tires are not pulling, you must also engage the inter diff lock that would have given him double the drive wheels I have shown up to many of these stuck and merely instructed the driver how to drive it out.
If that 9th wheel were spinning they’d climb right (or left) outa there lol Was that an occifer with the twirling finger & junior guy laying under hooking up the chain? Why the hard hat? Thanx from the left coast near the Krapitol of California
They should attach the chains to the shackles on the front of the truck. Not around the frame where it can cause the cab to bend or cause more damage to the vehicle. I was a 91BH8, also this is a training scenario but removing the snatch block with the crane is a waste of time. It weighs about 100lbs between to people you just throw it off the side of the truck and then carry it to the other truck. Using the crane takes too much time and can get you killed.
I get that its a class but as a H8 first thing id do is tell the operator to put it in low 8 and interlock. If that didn’t work id pull it out from the rear. Why pull it through the mud when you’ll get less resistance pulling it back through the tracks it just made. Looked like they needed to drop the spade. Also, fuck that snatch block.
Well, the base price of a HEMTT is $135,000. However, the US army paid $173,000,000 for 600 HEMTT in 2010. That's an average of $290,000 per truck. The cost can vary greatly depending on the model and the equipment on board. It is possible that a unit get above the million mark, but the truck in this video is most likely a very basic M977 or M985.
Looks like the bed damn near came off when he stopped LOL We would have just backed a SPLL up to it and pulled it out backwards. It might have taken 2 SPLLs to pull it forward.
There is another similar truck stuck in the sand in the background . Maybe the military should reconsiders buying any more these vehicles unless they come with AAA tow service on the battle field :-) .
Gotta love watching incorrect chain placements being done. I always temporarily tethered the winch and used it to roll the snatch block to the vehicle instead of carrying that boat anchor
All M977-M985 HEMTT's have rear lockers in the back axles,they are mechanical and air actuated.They also have inter axle locks or power dividers just like some of the M1070 HET's do.They have engagement actuators on the front axles,which are technically limited slip,but it still can be completely engaged into 8×8,another way to get the front working is to put it in to low gear.
The equipment looks useful but the personnel are useless. For a start, either the truck only has 4 wheel drive or the kids don't know how to engage the rest of the wheels, or don't know it has diff locks?
Yes it has locking diffs, but this is training, you gotta train for any failure..... If the diff lock fails, the vehicle still has to be recovered...... One way or another, that vehicle was getting out
He needs to get trained on the basics with the SnowRunner GAME first :D, the more heavy the vehicle - more you bog down if you keep all your wheels spinning
I dont care who you are, You dont get under an 8 ton vehicle in soft mud. There are plenty of other authorized mounting points for tow chains. One air pocket and that due is mud jelly. They should be driving it out while winching, keeping wheels speed even wth tow speed too. Must be Ft Jackson.
@@feellnfroggy Either way,I do agree with you,I do not under stand why they would put chains under a 40,000 lbs truck instead of attaching them to the tow hooks on the front,and then letting the M984A4 pull that M977A4/M985A4 out.
@@Slim_Slid playing devil's advocate, I could argue that the towhooks are not rated towhooks, and factory designed as tie down points. But given the nature of the vehicle, maybe they are rated tow points. But we're still in agreement, had to be a better way than getting under the vehicle like that
@@feellnfroggy It is easy to break them,using a tow bar would have been much better,and it's a solid connection,not on stress or loose like the chain is where it can snap if that truck moves at just the right time.And that wrecker would have had no problem towing away that cargo truck at all,they have towed M1070's that still had their M1000's attached with tanks on them.They do in fact use them as tie down points like you said,that's what they do with them to strap down the chains to TTX rail cars when they have to be transported by train.
53 inch tires and the ground clearance of a Suzuki samurai on 31’s, no lockers and almost 3 mpg to boot. What a piece of crap. My MAN 8x8 19" diff clearance, coil link suspended, x4 diff lockers and 5.6 mpg at 60 mph. Them damn Germans make some serious rigs!
I guess he's trying out for buds. 00:57 Uh, numb nuts try those loopy things in front. Better yet, mount a winch push bar like your deuce and halfs. A 5 ton winch with double double spindles (max 40 ton draw normal 20 ton draw) will easily self-extract your 12 ton vehicle. Or the above with one double spindle set on each truck, nose to nose and use both winches. Bigger or more expensive vehicles is not always the answer. There are plenty videos on YT to teach you how to use pulley systems. One very creative guy instructs you how to use two poles and a long rope to extract your vehicle. Flip-Flop winch: ruclips.net/video/QFDGGht3CQU/видео.html
All of these trucks have lockers,they are in the rear axles and are mechanically air actuated.They also have inter axle locks.On the front axles they use engagement actuators which are basically limited slip,but it still will engage in to 8×8.
M984 Recovery Trucks cost around 300k each. But they are capable of retrieving more expensive military equipment from difficult situations. Many thanks for watching, UMC
This was stuck on purpose for training. These things, when all 8x8 are locked in, in low range ... well they will go anywhere. This was stuck on purpose to train in recovery. These rigs are amazing in every way, unless operated by an inexperienced operator ... then you have trouble!
The truck does have AIR ACTUATED DIFF LOCKS on all 4 axles but if he used those he might just drive right out, hence the dig it in DEEP attitude!
As an owner of a M977 HEMTT I can't work out why he is chaining it up down there under the cab. There are two front recovery points at the front of the cab, that are meant for this purpose.
The military loves to make stuff more difficult than what it should be
I believe this is just training for the recovery crew, so if they can do it the difficult way, then they should be able to do it the easy way too.
My guess is more training..... What if those front hooks aren't useable for whatever reason...... Gotta figure out how to get it out when everything goes to shit
Exactly, ex military. They'd do it just to make you get covered in mud lol.
Ok now from a person who used to work and drive these awesome trucks, 1. He has 8x8 drive which he is not engaging 2.Most all of these do have a winch so getting stuck in this video is just for training, which is the H8 Identifier which means a Recovery Specialist. These are awesome Cargo trucks never seen one stuck before have driven them where most fear to tread.
Good job!
I'm not gonna lie, some of those vehicles do not have properly working drive trains, so even on a 6wd (USMC MTVR) or ea us army 8wd LSV or the USMC'S 10wd LVSR can get horribly stuck. I drove the USMC MTVR "7 ton" often, and had some drive trains that only locked 2 out of the 6 wheels it has.
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@@borivojetravica569 Also, modern electronic devices on any kind of vehicles including luxury boats and airplanes, are not reliable.Old school technology the best!
@@borivojetravica569 As long as you know what your on about!
We always just called a SPLL when we got ours stuck, they couldn’t always pull the HEMTT and HEMAT at the same time, though. I enjoyed being in the SPLL a lot more LOL.
The key with a HEMTT is to go in with plenty of momentum. Tighten your seatbelt, secure all the loose stuff in the cab, and hit it HARD!
HEMAT? There is only a HEMTT.
I’m obviously referring to personal experiences and not the video.
@@NH2112 Yes I under stand that but all M977-M985 I know about are a HEMTT,I never heard one called a HEMAT.
SS 81 HEMAT is Heavy Expanded Mobility Ammunition Trailer, there were 2 models, M989 and M989A1. The M989 was an actual trailer, very easy to back up but top-heavy and with marginal axles. The M989A1 was a wagon, with a much lower deck between the front & rear axles, and very difficult to back up.
@@NH2112 Is it large,or the same size as the MK14-MK18 hydraulic trailers? That's what the LVS MK-48 had,in the USMC before the LVSR came.
When I was in the Seabees I worked in transportation at the training center. I was a equipment operator and drove all of the trucks. This was years ago when we still used what they did in Vietnam. I would take the duce and a halves on the Amtrak course. This was in Gulfport Mississippi. The water would be coming in the doors ,what a blast.
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Yeah its a training film,keep those manicured fingers off the 8x8 switches and interlocks, and then prepare for in case you cannot attach to the normal tow points. Nothing is fair in battle.
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I'm impressed with the tire speed, didn't know those big trucks could spin like that.
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Shut up about locking the diffs. It's a training exercise. They were getting the truck stuck on purpose.
No kidding..... Simulating getting the truck stuck..... What if the diff lock had failed..... Gotta learn how to recover when it all goes to shit..... I'm sure the truck could have self recovered, but I understand what they're training for
My 1st unit I drove the M977 cargo hemmt HHT 3/3 ACR, Ft. Bliss, TX. Never treated it that way.
This is H8 school at Fort Lee VA
This is the guard
Wesley Howard i went t h8 at va and they never did that. And i don’t understand why they wrapped the chain around the frame to pull instead of the points in the front
inexperienced operators the HEMMIT is not in 8X8 By only selecting 8X8 note all of the tires are not pulling, you must also engage the inter diff lock that would have given him double the drive wheels I have shown up to many of these stuck and merely instructed the driver how to drive it out.
hes getting it stuck on purpose so they can train on recoveries...
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I think we just saw why so many of these things are sold to the civilian market with low miles.
how do i get a wrecker lvsr lol
Lol. And because they know they can get all the new ones they want for free on behalf of generous taxpayers 😊
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Sink it deep! Worst case scenario! Good training
Diff locked or winched would be my guess . You winch far more than you can tow
How nice to see recovery specialists playing in the mud.
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I hope people realize under combat situations that shit happens a lot faster !!!!!
Pfft. In combat, you smash into its ass with another truck and everybody holds down the gas until you're far away.
If that 9th wheel were spinning they’d climb right (or left) outa there lol
Was that an occifer with the twirling finger & junior guy laying under hooking up the chain?
Why the hard hat?
Thanx from the left coast near the Krapitol of California
They should attach the chains to the shackles on the front of the truck. Not around the frame where it can cause the cab to bend or cause more damage to the vehicle. I was a 91BH8, also this is a training scenario but removing the snatch block with the crane is a waste of time. It weighs about 100lbs between to people you just throw it off the side of the truck and then carry it to the other truck. Using the crane takes too much time and can get you killed.
It's a government vehicle. Damage doesn't matter. They'll just buy another one for free on behalf of taxpayers 😂
This is off the hook!
They got him out. Darn it if he didn't drive right back in again.
Good
I get that its a class but as a H8 first thing id do is tell the operator to put it in low 8 and interlock. If that didn’t work id pull it out from the rear. Why pull it through the mud when you’ll get less resistance pulling it back through the tracks it just made. Looked like they needed to drop the spade. Also, fuck that snatch block.
Sigh...8x8, low range, mode two.... But I get it, it's a training site
Exactly, lock the diffs
Exactly, i was thinking the same thing
Where's the first guys safety glasses and gloves?
It’s a training exercise to teach recruits ow to recover stuck military vehicles 🚗
No, I think it’s pretty obvious they were attempting to wash the truck and failed.
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That truck is $380,000 dollars new, not multimillion!
its depends thou! what about if is have a full load of tanks rounds?
I doesn't....
Well, the base price of a HEMTT is $135,000. However, the US army paid $173,000,000 for 600 HEMTT in 2010. That's an average of $290,000 per truck. The cost can vary greatly depending on the model and the equipment on board. It is possible that a unit get above the million mark, but the truck in this video is most likely a very basic M977 or M985.
does it rly matter just enjoy the video and don't b pedantic
What if it has full tank of fuel Hnu?
Good experiment...
Good car
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I never thought to use the crane for grting big bertha down
Why weren't all of the wheels turning when it got stuck?
when are they going to show the multi-million dollar vehicle stuck?
Notice how the dead weight of the "stuck" vehicle is pulling the M984 backwards.
Whole other level of off road recovery’s.
if the rope snaps, it can cut a person in two.. so maintain safe distance..
Looks like the bed damn near came off when he stopped LOL
We would have just backed a SPLL up to it and pulled it out backwards. It might have taken 2 SPLLs to pull it forward.
Don’t worry about getting out.. how f$@king hard did he hit the water
I actually work on these vehicles...a brand new JLTV is $488,000...PLS is around $188,000 stripped. Firetrucks are more expensive, I work on those too
I had the feeling that this was staged.I was impress seeing the soldier tying up the chains underneath the truck.Good video!
They could just easily recovered it with an M88A2 Hercules if they had it available... Stronger vehicle
No sherlock it was clearly training
Imazing
Lesson learned..go around any body of water and you will be fine.
What is the name of area country
i wanna be the guy who gets to drive the trucks into the mud and gets them stuck lol
Enlist.
These trucks don't have lockers?
Please tell, whats the story of them big puppys .....
Did Ford make this truck??
Filling the diffs up with water would get costly. Probly 50 gals. Of oil to change.
Don’t think all 8x8 engages looked only 4x
When the national guard has too much time on their hands.
I seen Nothing about being the Army National Guard.....
1:06 Some needs to him to 'take that ring off.'
There is another similar truck stuck in the sand in the background . Maybe the military should reconsiders buying any more these vehicles unless they come with AAA tow service on the battle field :-) .
Gotta love watching incorrect chain placements being done. I always temporarily tethered the winch and used it to roll the snatch block to the vehicle instead of carrying that boat anchor
Carrying big birtha builds character lol
@@MexicaN7455 always a good teaching opportunity to make people regret being the reason my wreckers out there lol
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Why did you put it back in water? They just got it out.
It is for a training purposes. H8 school
Dude does that thing seriously not have lockers?!
All M977-M985 HEMTT's have rear lockers in the back axles,they are mechanical and air actuated.They also have inter axle locks or power dividers just like some of the M1070 HET's do.They have engagement actuators on the front axles,which are technically limited slip,but it still can be completely engaged into 8×8,another way to get the front working is to put it in to low gear.
That snatch block heavy as fuck and in water. I know the weight intensified.
Good thing it's basic training!
My dad hate that ! when i do this in our courtyard !!!!
Zero traction x 4 = zero speed. 😂😂😂
Government should create optional roads for secure transporting.
The equipment looks useful but the personnel are useless. For a start, either the truck only has 4 wheel drive or the kids don't know how to engage the rest of the wheels, or don't know it has diff locks?
No one used crane in a mud Pitt in my H8 school we just carried it as a team
You gotta love H8
I was expecting a Honda Ridgeline to pull them out.
you imagine this in the war scenario?
No locking diffs?
Yes it has locking diffs, but this is training, you gotta train for any failure..... If the diff lock fails, the vehicle still has to be recovered...... One way or another, that vehicle was getting out
Needs a set of lockers
I think one of the best trucks are Oshkosh military & fire trucks.
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I don't get paid enough for this! Written all over his face.
@Royal Cason No I don't.
That's what happens when you don't have it in all 8 wheel drive, 4 wheels are going to cause you to basically high center.
madmax2069 purpose of the video is training. Locking it in 8 would of just crawled out.
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He needs to get trained on the basics with the SnowRunner GAME first :D, the more heavy the vehicle - more you bog down if you keep all your wheels spinning
They are bogging them down on purpose to train the recovery crews.
Put her in mss mode for the CTIS and you will be golden
That would defeat the T R A I N I N G E X E R C I S E.
Derp derp derp put it this mode and ur golden 🥴
😞I am so disappointed that these vehicles can't get out of the mud
They can.
Now one problem is....what if you dont have a recovery vehicle?? Time to go tell that 🌳 over there, indirect self recovery...lol!
oh, man...seeing that snatch block made my back and knees hurt. Ah, the memories.....
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I dont care who you are, You dont get under an 8 ton vehicle in soft mud. There are plenty of other authorized mounting points for tow chains. One air pocket and that due is mud jelly. They should be driving it out while winching, keeping wheels speed even wth tow speed too. Must be Ft Jackson.
I'm sure that truck is actually 12 Tons while that wrecker is 25 Tons.
@@Slim_Slid more to my point
@@feellnfroggy Either way,I do agree with you,I do not under stand why they would put chains under a 40,000 lbs truck instead of attaching them to the tow hooks on the front,and then letting the M984A4 pull that M977A4/M985A4 out.
@@Slim_Slid playing devil's advocate, I could argue that the towhooks are not rated towhooks, and factory designed as tie down points. But given the nature of the vehicle, maybe they are rated tow points. But we're still in agreement, had to be a better way than getting under the vehicle like that
@@feellnfroggy It is easy to break them,using a tow bar would have been much better,and it's a solid connection,not on stress or loose like the chain is where it can snap if that truck moves at just the right time.And that wrecker would have had no problem towing away that cargo truck at all,they have towed M1070's that still had their M1000's attached with tanks on them.They do in fact use them as tie down points like you said,that's what they do with them to strap down the chains to TTX rail cars when they have to be transported by train.
53 inch tires and the ground clearance of a Suzuki samurai on 31’s, no lockers and almost 3 mpg to boot. What a piece of crap. My MAN 8x8 19" diff clearance, coil link suspended, x4 diff lockers and 5.6 mpg at 60 mph. Them damn Germans make some serious rigs!
Wash rack will be fun.
Every video I watch of these, they are always stuck
Mike Rowe did this dirty job once.
You know what it is called so maybe say it's name.
I believe you Derek other wise that's not the speed for a professional .
Do HEMETs not have locking differentials?
Liked this vid, now let's see a few tracked recovery vehicles like M88s and 578s. Nothing like getting wet AND dirty in uniform!
That went just as planned. You didn't chain up to the front bull ring, cuz why?
Dan Rowley trust its reasons for it don’t feel like explaining
I guess he's trying out for buds. 00:57 Uh, numb nuts try those loopy things in front. Better yet, mount a winch push bar like your deuce and halfs. A 5 ton winch with double double spindles (max 40 ton draw normal 20 ton draw) will easily self-extract your 12 ton vehicle. Or the above with one double spindle set on each truck, nose to nose and use both winches. Bigger or more expensive vehicles is not always the answer. There are plenty videos on YT to teach you how to use pulley systems. One very creative guy instructs you how to use two poles and a long rope to extract your vehicle.
Flip-Flop winch:
ruclips.net/video/QFDGGht3CQU/видео.html
some kind of bad truck, it seems he doesn’t have a lock on the meso-axial differential
All of these trucks have lockers,they are in the rear axles and are mechanically air actuated.They also have inter axle locks.On the front axles they use engagement actuators which are basically limited slip,but it still will engage in to 8×8.
I have a M984E1
I wish I were apart of that.
lock the difs?
I didn’t think this ass had all wheels engaged! It also looks like they slinging a lot of water more than mud!
GOOD
bro those cost like 40-50k at most when retired brand new no more than 100k probs 70k
M984 Recovery Trucks cost around 300k each. But they are capable of retrieving more expensive military equipment from difficult situations.
Many thanks for watching,
UMC
@@UltimateMilitaryChannel I meant the HEMMT platform its on
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