The Dire Consequences Of Ashley Madison Leak
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2015
- More and more people are suffering the consequences of the Ashley Madison leak. Many users have come from countries where having an affair or being gay could be punishable by death. Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian (The Point), Ben Mankiewicz (What The Flick!?), Jimmy Dore (The Jimmy Dore Show) hosts of The Young Turks discuss.
Do you agree with the leakers or has this gone too far? Let us know in the comments below.
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Soon after the Ashley Madison details were made public Wednesday, tabloids fell all over each other to find juicy tidbits of hypocrisy and moral corruption - especially of their political enemies. Yesterday afternoon Gawker hit gold, revealing that Josh Duggar - a known pedophile and the already reigning king of rightwing hypocrites - had sought extramarital affairs on both Ashley Madison and OKCupid. In no time, the Schadenfreude-giddy blogs were basking in another Duggar scandal. But was it all worth it?
As it turns out, no. The Ashley Madison leaks, as many observers began noting yesterday afternoon, will have real world, devastating consequences on thousands of users worldwide. When the dust clears, it will be most vulnerable among us - LGBT and women in repressive countries - that will ultimately pay the price. And unlike Josh Duggar, their price will not be paid in snarky internet comments but rather loss of employment, family, and, in some cases, possibly their lives.
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ever thought of the other side? the spouses who live with cheaters ?
1fireupThe you should be ready for the consequences as an adult when you know you are doing something "unacceptable" .. or breaking the laws of your country
+Enigma w breaking the law is not the same as cheating. that's extremely dense. unless you know why they're cheating, again, none of your business
only half bad 333 in some countries cheating is like breaking the laws ... dont try to imply your standards on everyone.
Enigma w you know sometimes people like you are way too stupid for your own good
1fireupThe thanks ... being stupid is better than a cheater i guess ....
I feel bad for the people in danger but everyone else, fuck em, cheating bastards... Where is this information anyways cause my wife has been acting strange lately.
joshua stevenson Give me her email and I'll have a look in the dump files.
P4INKiller Seriously guys? come on, grow a pair and talk to you wife. and dont be a drama queen ffs
charlie devine If someone is cheating on you, they're lying to you, and if they're lying to you already, there's a fairly good chance that when asked they'll continue to lie. Asking questions isn't a method which always gives accurate answers.
All the supposed .onion links are fake. Most of the dumps are incoherent.
+joshua stevenson dude i give you a hint look it at piratebay all 9GB can be found there
*DON'T CHEAT*
because the shit will hit the fan when you least expect it.
Suika Nine So you think people should be whipped and executed for cheating?
Mark R No, I was directing my message mostly to 1st world country citizens.
In barbaric middle age countries, I would say It's fine but the message should still be seen more as a warning than as a demand since either way you can't get away with cheating for extended periods of time. it's simply not possible especially in the Middle East.
+Mark R (GoogleV2) they knew it was coming, it's their laws , i hear people preaching about letting people get punished by their own laws every fucking day so stop viewing it so hypocritically
Suika Nine Abolish marriage, particularly monogamous marriage which is the product of that piece of shit religion called Christianity
+Mark R (GoogleV2) No. But if that's what their country does they should suffer the consequences.
Ok I honestly feel bad for the gay men because, they used it to date other gay men and not to date others in a relationship, but if he releases the Information of women and men that are having an affair and cheating in a relationship I still honestly believe that that is their personal business but at the same time don't feel too bad for them.
But there ARE gay men who are married, they could still be in the closet and married a woman or has a husband!! I am not buying it!
+Fukaikokro they could lie
It's not about feeling bad for them it's about minding your own business
Prince Santana why would a man hiding his sexuality release a press statement about it and inform his government where to find the details? this is fake
Aloha Snackbar It's an anonymous person.
My mum once knew someone who was cheating on her husband. She was too scared to leave him because he was physically and verbally abusive. They eventually got divorced but if she was on Ashley Madison and the guy found out he would have destroyed her. Its not a stretch to think there are people like her on the list whose abusive partners could find out. That puts them in a world of danger. But its fine, though, because they cheated so they deserved it #morality
Why would you cheat on someone you're that scared of? You get OUT of that relationship as soon as possible, not fuck around.
asmRTPOP Yea it's so simple right... YOu can't say that unless it was happening to you. Often times people think if they are in a situation they will act a certain way until the crunch comes.
+Thecuriousincident1 it is that simple the problem is there are so many stupid people out there and whores
No it's not that simple and until you are actually in a situation where you have to face this kind a thing. Then you can't imagine it can you?
Thecuriousincident1 No, it really is that simple. But I do understand what you're trying to get at, and that is that some people are just too stupid to not act on something that is easily done.
On one side, ppl breaking up, divorcing, splitting up.
on the other side, lawyers are smiling :)
Lawyers are gonna get a big paycheck lol
only half bad 333 Lol xD
What happened to "we're not talking about it" blah blah blah Anna
OhMyGodBrittany She didn't say that. She said she wasn't going to name names. Fucking dipshit...
OhMyGodBrittany what is your SAT score? like 4.76?
+OhMyGodBrittany What, you expected an activist news outlet to have standards?
Edit: Lol I just got to the part where they helped a (TOTALLY REAL, NOT FAKE) dude dox himself. Standup performances all around. Cause that's what people who fear for their lives do: they put out even more identifying information on themselves: "HEY GUYS, I WAS IN CANADA RECENTLY FOR STUDIES!" But rest assured, they don't want this guy getting found out.
OhMyGodBrittany You need to pay more attention.
The morality police is alive in the comment section.
Chimera1591 More like people are just looking for consistency. TYT is going nuts over this; Cenk and Ana are saying that the hackers shouldn't have stolen private information. Yet, Wikileaks has illegally obtained and published information from private companies like STRATFOR, (i.e., stole) and TYT was not attacking Julian Assange over the theft of private information. And when they Wikileaks published countless private emails, how is that not stealing? Come on, TYT has to be consistent. It's not a moral issue, just one of equity.
Besides, the fact is that AM was blackmailing their own customers. They were offering to remove their records if they paid AM $20. Nope, this is much more complex than people being judgmental. And they were lying to their male customers; saying the male to female ratio was about 1:1, when it was 1:9. AM might have expected this. And what were the hackers asking for? Just for them to take the website down... no money. If AM wanted to do the right thing, they could have. Now they're website is trashed, and their customers will probably sue them.
+Commodoor64 Stealing private information from a corrupt government is not the same as stealing private information from random citizens.
I dare say we we'll find their email addresses in the info dumps on the DW.
Anthony Interiano Corrupt government, yeah. Corrupt business, yeah. But Wikileaks also published data stolen from private companies. And according to sources, people have been put at risk by the information that Wikileaks has published. Like they say, All Lives Matter.
www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-puts-afghan-agents-at-risk-us-says/
Exactly..
Umm, did that Saudi guy never hear about Adam4Adam? Grindr? Scruff?
Glenn Sager He was using Ashely Madison to hide the fact that he is gay being on Grindr wouldn't be hiding.
whateveryouwant311 Or he could not put a photo up and list himself as discreet?
MrLiltommy246 You honestly believe that in a country where you could be killed for being gay having a gay hookup app on your phone is a good way to hide the fact that you are gay?
+whateveryouwant311 up until i read your response i didnt even know that grinder was a gay app
Republican national convention.
See!! As much as you all thought it was good for the cheaters to get exposed some gay people might be executed or go to jail. Like I said cheating is wrong ....it's a dangerous game they are playing but they should've at least monitored everything so things like this wouldn't happen.
+mIchaela burton See what? They cheated, and they will suffer the consequences. It's not the hackers fault that they disobeyed the law.
burntcerial I don't make the rules. I'm just saying if that's the law in your country - then follow it. Simple as that.
William Slaughter They broke the law, but just because they did doesn't mean that the cheaters didn't...
some of these people didn't cheat..
+William Slaughter well since the law changed in 2001 nobody gives a shit.
I know that TYT has taken this big stance against mentioning any names from the list, and I applaud them for that... but I'm sure on some level it kinda eats them up that they can't do the segment where they talk about Josh Duggar being on it. I can see Cenk right now slamming his fist against the desk in the production meeting.... "HOW CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS WITHOUT GOING AGAINST OUR PRINCIPLED STANCE??!!??"
instereovideos Duggar came out on his own, he should be fair game.
instereovideos In the live show, Jimmy blurted out Josh Duggar's name, and Cenk and Ana quickly shut him up. They were like "No, No, Jimmy, we're not doing that." I hadn't heard about it until Jimmy said it. I got the impression Jimmy felt like discussing JD was fair game because of his "family values" hypocrisy.
instereovideos OF COURSE lol
GraHakku Consumer Rights damn, this would be good click bait commentary. but, i guess they will talk about it when everything dies down.
*****
I hear you, Deez Nuts... but you sound a bit like someone who has been burned by some fake Ashley Madison profiles.
karma's a bitch...LOL
i have no empathy for the scum that used that website.
Mister mood di you not hear that gay men use it to hide there true selves and only hook up with other men that are doing that exact same thing so its really just gay guys trying not to die.
Mister mood also do you really hate women is katar that where trying to be happy when they were legally stuck with men that treat them horribly.
simon amorim wut? Ashley Madison is targeted to married people. gays should have used other websites.
simon amorim there divorce there is no reason to cheat.
+Mister mood Agreed. So many good ones for gays...
Kudos to the hackers that actually carried out their threat.
Or or or.....DONT FUCK UP AND GET A AFFAIR!!!!!!!!!!fuuuuuuck
Alex G. didnt you hear that gay men use it to hide relationships.
Alex G. so you saying they deserve their safety, financial security, home security. even maby life in some cases, or even their children's safety in danger? to be blackmailed and deal with identity theft and weirdos or crazy people stalking them?
not all of them used this to cheat, and yes cheating is a bit of a fucked up thing to do, but is THIS what you call justice?
Alex G.
Did you watch the fucking video moron? Not everyone who used the website is a cheating scum bag.
My God you idiots are impervious to facts.
Alex G. that guy wasnt having an affair tho. He's just gay.
That Dude
and people having an afair don't deserve blackmail, ID theft, credit card stolen or death.
a bitch slap from their spouse and a discussion that may or may not result in separation/break up/divorce sounds just fine.
Cenk's body language is completely different when he talks about Muslims and Christians.
Are you inferring that he prefers one religious group over another? Or any talk of religion gets him worked up
carebearscooby Of couuurrse. (Cenk's voice)
+morrison martin LOL
***** he's a Muslim hypocrite.
+morrison martin he's a friggin Agnostic. Do you ever listen?
The slogan for Ashley Madison is "Life is short, have an affair." IDGAF about anyone who works for them or anyone who signed up for their service.
Lots of people keep saying stuff like "too bad, they shouldn't have cheated". What about all the single people(people who weren't having an affair)? Single people aren't doing anything immoral by hooking up because they have no one to cheat on. Because of this hack, they are just as vulnerable to blackmail and humiliation as all the other people who actually did something wrong.
It's all fun and games until an innocent life gets destroyed in the process...
Sam C How is someone who is single going to blackmailed or humiliated with this information coming out? The only reason why people are humiliated and would be able to blackmail them is that the world sees this as wrong. If you didn't do something that most of the civilized world thinks is wrong, then whats the big deal?
T Myte I think "humiliate" was too strong a word for it. I meant more along the lines of embarrassment
Sam C
Still the same. And that soft language makes it sound like someones life is not going to be messed up to bad.
T Myte I'm not sure what else to say :/
When talking about privacy there are different reasons why people want it. Security is one.(like passwords) Personal preference is another. (like being a private person, or not showing all of yourself to the world -bikini tops)
There may be people like this on AM, but the majority are doing something wrong. This causes harm to others, like their spouses or who they are in a relationship with. When someone is doing this type of evilness, I say its OK to expose that to the concerned parties. Maybe not the world, but this is a weird case.
You gotta love situations like this for reminding us that life is not simple.
hdjksa52 +1'd
Why are some people so hellbent on defending bad people? There are so many good people out there who have bad things happen to them. Worry about them before you worry about cheaters please.
***** victim blaming rape victims is bad for sure, but not sure if victim blaming adulterers for being exposed as adulterers are as bad as tyt says. To me, it feels like they are equally upset about both.
***** That's what I was thinking too.
T Raa This is just TYT and some other liberals trying to form some imaginary moral high ground for them to take over everyone else.
T Raa Cheaters are bad but they DO NOT deserve to be killed tor doing so. It's not like the raped thousands of children or murdered many people no they only CHEATED which is bad but surly isn't worthy of death. Have some balance with your morals why don't ya. Also its a BIT more understanding when homosexuals use the sites, these are places that have homosexuality punished by death or imprisonment. Lots of them have little choice, its a fanned if you do fanned if you don't situation. Were not talking about your averages western closed homosexual who can cheat on their unsuspecting spouse without any legal trouble. Weir talking about people who who barley have any choice, who live in places were homosexuality is Illegal. It's not your typical American situation of cheating, in nanny of these countries sexuality in general is looked down upon, its looked as something that should be repressed, many of these places have arranged marriages, and homosexuality is illegal so its a bit more understanding when they cheat gay Or straight...
+TheBananaThug define bad people. I don't agree with cheaters but everyone is entitled to their rights. plus you sound like evangelicals, condescending as fuck .
To be fair, until the spouse knows, they suffer nothing. If they never found out, then they'd never suffer anything.
I thought I had never heard of Ashley Madison until I realized that Mystery Science Theater 3,000 had made a reference to it in a joke 20 or so years ago.
I finally got the joke, 20 years later.
Whoa! I was pretty with them until Cenk was asked why they leaked the info and gave an incredibly incorrect response. They didn't threaten the site for being amoral, they were telling the site that they needed to either fully delete members private data when they paid to have their account deleted. AM was currently keeping some client data even after a paid account deletion. I'm not saying what they did was good, but it wasn't for morality.
Michael Abreu Exacttly!
I was reading a newspaper about this subject (and I was completely disgusted by the way) and I read that over 10000 US military servicemen were on the list... They can now be subjected to violent attacks by extremists in their own homes because of this. Those men and women (though mostly men) who fought and defended this country can now be robbed from and attacked because of this leak. Exposing personal information and privacy is one thing, but leaving the brave men and women who fought to defend you vulnerable to attack because of what you did in your own self righteous interests is a complete and utter betrayal that cannot be described in the English language. I hope that the people who are now in mortal danger for their participation on the site will fade into obscurity and rebuild their lives, and for those who put them in danger, I hope you get appropriately prosecuted.
What would I say to the guy in Saudi Arabia?
"Hey guy calm down! Don't lose your head."
Actually, my mind has just been changed by this. It was the case that I was not really bothered by the AM leak. I was thinking like, if you didn't want your family life ruined, maybe don't cheat on your spouse, for fuck sake!
But no, this is a really good point. I am embarrassed now but I have to admit I did not think about the people on the site who might be harmed even through they're not cheating. I'm especially concerned about the people who live in super shitty countries that would jail, murder, or otherwise harm people b/c of this.
T Raa lol. You don't think Saudi Arabia is a shit country?
I see what tyt is saying. I don't like hacking. And I kinda agree. We should worry about our own stuff. But to play Devil's advocate you can't cherry pick. You can't feel sorry for some and laugh at others. (That dugger person) even tho he is an inbreeding cheater.
The practice of covert infidelity should be publicized. I understand if it was just a 'fantasy' site but it appears to be much more than that. A medium in which users intent is to be unfaithful could be perceived as being immoral. Instead of considering the 3% of users that could be chastised/punished severely, consider the 97% of infidels who, instead of breaking up or working it out with their spouse, reduced to cheating/lying.
Yale University This is what happens when you put your business online. If you want to keep a secret, never ever do anything online. Eventually you will get caught, either by hacker, or accidentally leave something up and not close out, or someone just figuring out your password. It's not a matter of if you get caught, but when. Never use your e-mail, or your main cell phone. Always use a burner phone and keep it in a safe place that's not at work or home. The less people know the better, and if you cheat then be honest with your mistress, and finally "Don't crap where you eat" meaning, don't screw around with someone who is close to you, or who lives in the vicinity and if you do don't be seen together and meet at a hotel somewhere out of town. You people need to learn how to be deceptive. Too bad money doesn't buy brains. If your going to sin, then do it right. This is just helpful advice.
If a person isn't happy with a relationship in any way then they should get a divorce; there is never an excuse for cheating.
Ppl that are cheated on deserve to know their health is at risk! Stds!
So you're saying there are actual consequences for cheating on your spouse? Well, we better protect the people who signed up for AM because cheaters obviously don't deserve any consequences.
Fucking _cause and effect_ - if you don't cheat and/or use shitty websites like this, you don't have to deal with the consequences of your actions being outed.
I should have also mentioned the site leakers simply wanted Ashley Madison taken down, and they gave a month to do that, so blame Noel Biderman if you want to do some finger pointing, tyt.
Also we all know the only person who are worried are the same people who stand on soap boxes shouting the tenets of marriage is something sacred and should be hailed as such.
Secret info leaks tend to come with consequences. That's why it's secret info to begin with. Where do you draw the line? A cheater's a cheater, doesn't matter what the game is. Relationships, politics, hockey - I feel bad for the unintended harm, but still have no sympathy for the cheaters. I don't think people should have to put up with fake relationships (whether or not they realize they're in one) any more than I think the LGBT community should be fearful of religious nutcases. Both circumstances are unacceptable from my point of view. The leak? That's not for me to say, only those involved. I'm sure there are just as many who appreciate it as those who don't.
I've been saying this for a long time that just because the site is advertising cheating, doesn't mean that everyone on it is cheating on someone.
"Do you think the women who will get whipped 100 times in Qatar had it coming"
Yes.
So depressing to see so many awful stupid people here in the comments section... "they should be ready to take what comes when you break rules" "Good. Cheaters deserve to die." "Screw them. They are getting what they deserve." Yes we know that cheating is bad, but still can you make an effort for a minute and not just see the world in binary terms? I never cheated on anyone, but those comments really makes me sick at a level that is hard to describe. You think you're more moral than others, but I think you're the worse of the worse.
I love the way they all put up their hand when Ben said, "Who hasn't been in a divorce?"
Hillarious LMAO
There are a huge number of people on Ashley Madison who are single. Single people join any dating site, including a dating site where they expect to meet some people who are looking for some fun on the side.
those who are gettig with the married people are just as bad
Jacob Diaz I don't think so, but more importantly they have nothing to worry about.
romanmir01 different values so we hve dofferent outlooks on it. But true. They might have some fetish stuff to worry about but thats it.
Jacob Diaz Lol didn't think about that... O.o Oh well...
Adam Arzo Ha ha ha, did your wife cheat on you with some single dude or what? For real
If you were cheating in a country where it's punishable by death, that seems like an extreme risk to take.
So it's also fair to those people who cheated? Don't cheat, won't have to worry about it!
I find that having conversations like this on RUclips (especially the comments section), is like yelling at the cops and wondering why you got arrested.
You're really not going to get anywhere and the few times you do will mostly be for the worse.
Why would a gay guy use a website designed for cheating to find men? Theres so many other dating sites/apps he could be using it's unbelievable. Doesn't make any sense. Unless he's fucking married men.. in that case I have no sympathy for him.
So much for giving ReviewTechUSA credit for the thumbnail photo.
No one forced them to have sex with someone other than their wives after they made a legally enforced promise to not have sex with anyone else.
Is anyone even talking about the fact that those hackers forced themselves into the extremely private matters of other people? Them cheating is not your problem, and you're not allowed to make it your problem either.
It's their fault they put their lives in Ashley Madison hands
Here's what scares and scared me at the time - how many mass shootings are about to occur over this? Once the neighbor down the street finds out his wife has been banging the UPS man, shit's about to go down real quick - seeing how every damn person in this country is armed to the teeth.
There's gonna be quite a few cases of attempted murder or just murder because of this.
What's even more dumb, is how these people who did this think they did 'justice' work. Would you honestly want me to leak every personal secret and thought you've had in your mind? We already know the answer to that, so it's rhetorical.
What about the spouses who KNEW of this and WANTED IT KEPT PRIVATE! Now the whole family is outed. Not cool.
WHAT?? Having an affair has dire ramifications.
Rare that happens about a rare case. Once again talking about the very minor consequence.
1 thing I have found funny about this story is that Alabama had more accounts than any other state
Being on Ashley Madison is not a sign of unhappy marriage. I was on it for a while and I'm in a perfectly happy open marriage I stopped using it because of the crudity of every single interaction with men on there.
What makes this so bad is that people actually think this site was actually getting married men laid. It already came out that an overwhelming part of that community was male and that most of the women on there are actually bots.
The poor pooooor poooooor cheaters! Yeah cry me a fucking river.
I find Ana's argument about legality in this matter ridiculous. Generally I can respect her opinion, but this is the only story where I have heard her reference legality as a a justifiable accusation against an action.
Need I remind you all that Ana regularly admits to smoking pot all the time on the show. That is also illegal. Never once have I heard her make that excuse, so I find it pretty laughable here. Yes, black hat hacking is illegal. No one is arguing about that, but legality and morality are two different things.
I feel like the MORALITY of the situation is a bit grey. These people are using a website specifically built for the purpose of cheating. This hacker, who ever s/he is, isn't outing these people for moral reasons. They are most likely doing it from the perspective of someone that has been spurned by a lover. Regardless, they have some kind of vendetta.
Also, really don't care about the privacy of the people that were using this website for cheating. I feel like if I suspected that my spouse was cheating, I would be grateful for a resource that this hacker has provided for it. I really couldn't care less about the privacy of people on the list. They are doing something extremely shitty in cheating on their spouses.
Also, what is this about the gay Saudi dude? Why was he using a cheating website to pick up men? That makes no sense whatsoever.
LunarEgo Ikr
Screw them. They are getting what they deserve.
Aside from people in Saudi Arabia being persecuted, what about all the wives or husbands who may be beaten up or even murdered by their angry spouses when they discover they've been cheated on? Take a wild guess at how often spousal homicides are committed over adultery. The answer is: it happens every fucking day. And now they've released the names of 38 million people who were registered on this site?
Yeah, domestic violence is a huge issue, especially in the west.
BUT TERRORISM!?!?!
I said it before and I'll say it again. Ana did a story about a politician that had an affair and she didn't feel the need to respect the politicians privacy and therefore made it everyone business. She can't expect the moral high ground on this topic for me.
Consistency is key in journalism. Either it's all good or nothing is.
As much as I really do not want anyone to be hurt physically or be in danger, these people are still failing to draw sympathy from me, if one cheated on their spouse they made that decision, regardless of whether their relationship is emotionally destitute or whatever else, I don't think there is any excuse to make the concious decision to have an affair whilst still in a relationship, it is despicable and leaving the other person in question in the dark indefinitely about such actions is nothing more than childish and pathetic. If you want to fuck around thats fine, but don't have a pretend monogamous relationship on the side because you don't care about other people's lives.
Even in the cases of abusive relationships that maybe be anchored by children, yes this is terrible, but why the hell are you having an affair on the side and putting you and/or your children in further danger? Work on getting out of the fucking relationship first. Fucking priorities.
I agree its not my business whether these people are cheating, but it is their partner's business, they shouldn't be mislead into staying in a relationship and wasting years of their lives because the person cheating on them doesn't have the balls to admit it.
Again of course I do not agree with the people that may exploit this information to heinously punish others, but then the site is marketed specifically for affairs and I highly doubt these cases apply to the vast majority of people using said site.
TYT coverage of this has just been annoying, I get it the hack is fundamentally wrong, but can you people please make a distinction that many of the victims of the victims in this case are having their lives destroyed as well, I'm tired of all this apologists talk taking the side of the Ashley Madison users, at least fucking address that what these people are doing, at least in the majority of relevant cases here, is malicious and hurtful to others. 'Nuff said.
positives:
increased money into divorce lawyers etc.
more money into real estate cause the demand for housing because of splits
more money for luxuary goods following the divorces of richer people
I don't like what happened with Ashley Madison. But really people who do something that carries the death penalty in their country and use their real identity not asking the question "whats if they have a security breach " ?
WOW
As much as I can understand what this video is saying, it still blows my mind into a million pieces. Sure, SOME people using AM were single... but that still doesn't change the fact the site is there to promote ADULTERY, and many users are MARRIED. The message here is that AM and it's users are the victims... what about the spouses of the people using the site that DIDN'T KNOW or WEREN'T OKAY... wouldn't they be worse victims?
It's like when the one brunette mentioned the username "sexlessmarriage", and I couldn't help but think... why the hell are you making an excuse to make this okay!? If the username states they're in a marriage, and there's no sex, if it's THAT big an issue... here's a thought, first try communication with the spouse, if not that, then probably dump just as much money, or less, into a marriage-counselor or sex-therapist, and then if it's still that big a deal, move on out of there, etc... instead, "oh no, we don't know their story... it's perfectly fine to skirt the laws against prostitution and actually pay money for a chance to connect your private body parts with the spouse of somebody else... why not, it's all good". WTF!? o_O
PS - As for the anonymous gay man example they gave at the beginning, I truly have sympathy for them... but in that scenario, they probably would have been better off going to a gay bar, gay club, craig's list, online gay personals like Yahoo, etc... or bunches of other routes... one should have expected that a website that pretty much states right in their byline that they're all about promoting cheating on spouses and being promiscuous that something like this was BOUND TO HAPPEN. xD
When you get caught stealing is it the fault of CCTV? No, you blame the fact that you are a thief.
I guess that it is a good reminder: don't do it, unless you are willing to get caught! The hackers did not destroy those people's lives; the people destroyed their own lives.
People looovvveee judging other people on moral grounds. It's how most people boost their self-esteem
It's understandable to be angry as an individual but as a group it's bad to let feelings themselves overwhelm us and acting without thought.
You know, I wasn't really bothers by this leak when tyt first talked about it, and was probably happy about it, but now I'm dead set against it after watching this video. Absolutely disgusted.
This was addressed on /b/ 2 days ago. We already have a large list of email addresses from those specified countries.
Isn't the thumbnail from reviewtechusa's video?
When a cheating spouse effects me, then I will care. All else is someone else's business.
People making moral judgements on the lives of others. Cheaters gonna cheat, haters gonna hate.
If they know cheating means death in their country, why would they fucking risk it ??
Let's get this right. The people that maintain the data base are at fault for not securing or encrypting the data.
The company was told they were going to be hacked and they sat on there thumbs.
I know some people in open marriages so I cant understand why some media outlets are publicly shaming people with Ashley Madison accounts. We all thought that Gawker story about David Geithner was shameful. Ashley Madison may represent %1 of all adultery. My thoughts are with the people who are just finding out about their spouse accounts
@ColoredSpaces
Cheating has become a normal thing now. We need to make it illegal again, unless you have the permission of your spouse.
Ive been blackmailed once on one of these sites a few years ago when i was single. I was just trying to get laid like any other guy my age with that mindset. Long story short, it was incredibly traumatic when it happened and I'm still scared of most of those sites and even tamer dating sites because of it.
I just hope whoever had an account on ashelymadison quickly changed all their bank account info and are taking care.
Also my prayers go to whoever lives in a foran country like they were talking about in the video. God help anyone there that would be affect by this leak.
Basically every time that I'm on the verge of finishing a sign up for a dating site, I always chicken out and leave. I'm terrified of ending up in a situation like you were in 😰
Adam Arzo not every hookup site is like ashley madison where it says have an affair....its just another hookup site.
besides i had no plans on hooking up with people in relationships.
DarthAndrew520 Don't do your business online. There are no secrets on the internet.
It's weird that in a system where someone has an affair and is blackmailed or prosecuted that of all the people in the chain you blame that hackers.
For the people saying, "Fuck those cheaters," and "TYT spend 10 minutes defending cheaters" Remember some people have open relationships, some couples have three ways, some people want discreet gay sex or sex in general. Just being on a website that is marketed towards people looking to cheat, doesn't mean that everyone on there is a cheater.
I haven't been through a divorce. I've never been married.
Can you hear the necks breaking? tons of people hanging themselves right now..
What would be the point of paying blackmail on info that can already be downloaded from a public website?
They got it coming. Period. If you know you are doing something wrong you should be prepared for the consequences.
This is the crap that will happen if you create a site that it's sole purpose is for marital affairs. If your unhappy in a relationship get a divorce and theres no moral reason for anyone to join that site.
I agree the leak is not a good thing, but maybe this should also be a reminder to be mad that these countries have such laws, not just that it's bad that people have leaked information.
I just can't fathom how anybody could feel remorse for the people exposed. "Life's short, have an affair" slogan for Ashley Madison. That's disgusting. If you value the sacred bond of marriage, you wouldn't defend any of these cheaters. For the gays hooking up with other single men, tough break. you signed up on a website that is notorious for pairing people who are already in a relationship. bravo to those hackers.
So is ashley madsion active in other countries or just here. If that guy used it here where its not illegal to to be homosexual can they still punish him?
And I am here still wondering why they didn't cancell the website... I mean... the news of this is everywhere, isn't this ruining the bussyness a lot??
Monogamy doesn't always equal trust.
Trust is more important than monogamy.
If the law in the middle east says adulterers get 100 lashes, then obviously the cheaters weighed their options and thought the lashes were worth it. Lotta people make bad decisions everyday. The consequences are different for different people. Think for yourself. Do whats best for you. if cheating is worth the consequences dont complain afterwards.
I got the leaked file but I dont know how to read it :(
80% of people on plenty of fish is married or looking for one night stand the difference is they don't tell you if they are married with Ashley Madison you know what it's about the fact that people are going to cheat anyway don't make much difference.
I agree with TYT on this issue. Also don't use a website with your information to cheat.
Practically, there is also an issue of potentially exposing one's spouse to STDs.
I didn't really care about this story until now, when some random guy in America cheats on his wife (or vise versa), who cares. But in other countries, it really makes you think twice.
These people were aware of the consequences of their actions. If you live in a country in which you can be put to death for cheating, don't register for a website that is focused on allowing you to cheat. Do I think cheating is worthy of death? No, I don't, I don't think there should be any legal repercussions whatsoever for it, it's a personal affair that shouldn't have anything to do with the government. That being said, if the punishment is established, whether it's right or wrong, you have to deal with it if you commit the crime.
I think anyone who commits adultery should receive 100 lashings. Marriage means nothing anymore. A sacred vow now just a formality. I am glad this has been leaked, it's better for the wives and husbands to know now than later.
Ignorance of your countries/religions laws on cheating is not an acceptable excuse
No one forced these people to sign up for an account
With all the hacked databases in the news since FOREVER ( hacking databases isn't a new concept) they KNEW there were risks involved.. They TOOK that risk ..
Risks breeds consequences and rewards.
Cheating is a good thing. It accelerates the inevitable destiny of a broken marriage. The more open and honest people are, the better. Hypocrites are the worst. Example: Josh Duggar.
The distinction between the crime of cheating on someone, and the crime of murder, is that no one dies when someone is cheating. Sure, they deserve some justice if it's against the law, but do they really deserve to die for it? People can be exposed for being gay, and they weren't even cheating, and they'll die for it. It isn't their fault their country has barbaric laws, but sadly they'll suffer from the leaked information.
this is messed up from all angles . the people in danger for their lives and the people who were cheated on .