The only thing this movie was missing is a record scratch and freeze frame of euronymous getting stabbed with the voice over “yep, that’s me. I guess you’re wondering how I ended up in this situation.”
Definitely fictitiously stretched to make a movie and weirdly casted but if you were to take the names and story of mayhem out of it I would say it’s a good movie 😂
What else did you expect the producer to do? Dialect coaches are really expensive and this movie did not have a Hollywood production money. The producer talked about the accents in an interview and said that he wanted to appeal to a wide audience since black metal has expanded from just its scandinavian borders, because remember the point of this movie is an attempt to get more people interested in black metal, and also because he saw other movies attempt to do different accents and fail horribly, and that was with easy and common accents let alone more obscure Norwegian and Swedish accents. So yeah not trying to hate or anything but I always feel the need to say this to people who bring the accents up because it seems that even if the producers did try with accents, with their limited budget they probably would have done a horrible job and you guys would hate either way. So no matter what the producers are losing
@@alvisarker8621 this is definitely a fair point. Seeing these actors try to pull off fake Norwegian accents wouldve arguably been more cheesy and silly, maybe making the movie an even more so bad it's good experience
That’s the typical hipstery take on anything vaguely badass that people have enjoyed for years. Break it down, feminize it, gay it up, and claim the people who enjoy it deserve it because we don’t like it and we have the power and money to destroy it. Lame.
As someone who was around new bands and having been stabbed, I can confirm that both experiences as portrayed in this movie are legitimately as awkward as they appeared on screen. The shock of being stabbed did make me say "why did you stab me?" before realising I was in danger of dying.
I liked it if you watch the movie without expecting an accurate story the movie was fun, it also shows that all the members actually probably were cringey edge lords only they went further than all the normal edge lords, and it starts with the text: based on truth, LIES and what actually happened (the acting wasn’t the best though)
I had a friend that happens to be communist and he couldn't enjoy Death of Stalin. When a fandom becomes a religion you need to chill the fuck out because you will see apostates everywhere
This movie isn't meant to be a documentary, but an entertaining movie and the depiction as cringy edgelords is absolutely correct. They all were weird edgy kids: Varg was 20 when he killed Euronymous, Pelle offed himself at 22, Faust was imprisoned at 19. They where Kids acting evil, posing with medieval weapons and 3rd reich memorabilia. That you actually believe this and call them "brutal occult creatures" is just weird, dude. Those were kids wearing witch hats in their music videos.
I actually did a bit of digging into the chocolate milk and according to a film buff, what a character drinks in film or TV indicates who they are as a person. For example, drinking plain milk with nothing in it means the character is pure, sweet and innocent. Drinking chocolate milk is a sign of corruption or evil beating good. The only other thing I found was a quote Varg said once - "I killed him there and then because he tried to kill me. What else did he plan to do with the knife right after having attacked me?! Cut a slice of bread and have a chocolate milk?"
I loved this movie, it encapsulated everything funny about black metal and the portrayl of these people by awkward dudes in their 20s was a great way to show how try hard edgy black metal dudes are to this day. Met many black metal guys that behave very much like these characters and thats what made me enjoy the film so much. Its okay to enjoy things even if theyre not authentic to the truth.
The sad part is Rory Culkin's normally a pretty good actor. Or at least I think he usually is. Then again, I'm not exactly a thespian, so everyone is a better actor than I am.
Lords of chaos the book was how we knew more about the black metal/death metal. The movie shouldnt have been called lords of chaos. Rory looked more like Fenriz than euro.
The scene where Varg Vikernes kills Oystein Aarseth (Euronymous) was completely made up. According to Varg, Euronymous was fighting Varg throughout and Varg ended up winning. It could've easily been the other way around. Also I'm very positive given how Oystein let his Euronymous character take over his life he had no reason cutting his hair. Also Varg didn't drink chocolate milk.
Euromymous having short hair in this scene was based off of the crime scene photo of his murder in the news (which wasnt actually him, it was another dude laying there to imitate the crime scene)
It's like a dark comedy, I like how it makes fun of something that took itself so seriously. But it does have some nice cinematography here and there, so that's one point. But the lack of actual music from the scene is it's biggest failure
A friend a couple of years ago told me about mayhem and what happened, and a year back he sat me down and played the movie and started explaining every innacuracy. The movie felt like a couple of highschool friends listened to mayhem and were like "yo we can make a movie out of this".
I watched Lords of Chaos and wanted to learn more about the Black Metal scene. Then I watched the documentary Until the Light Takes Us. I got a lot of education from the documentary than this movie. Watching it again made me laugh because it was like watching a black metal Game of Thrones 😂
Stay very far away from anyone who is "Team Varg" 😅 I get what they're trying to do by making him look like an idiot. But you do a disservice to how intelligent and manipulative these people are by making out that they're goofy. By underestimating fascists we allow them to slip by unnoticed and sink their claws in.
I’ll be real here… the more Varg talks about the Black Metal scene, (especially after his latest book “To Hell and Back”), the more I think that this movie might be a more accurate portrayal of Varg than people might think
I don’t really hate this movie mainly because it was my introduction to black metal and me and my friend still occasionally quote some of the dumbass lines. Plus I like the idea of showing these “ultra evil” people as a bunch of dumbass kids and the live performance in particular scene was really well done IMO. But the main things that truly hold me back from actually liking it is the GoT season 8 style screenplay that’s filled with some of the most cringe lines I’ve ever heard and pointless love story side plot that feels more like Euronymous fan fiction especially when you realize that the woman he’s with wasn’t even a real person; and just as importantly, the complete lack of direction is especially apparent in this. The actors look completely lost for a good chunk of this movie and when you give them a script this bad, no wonder everyone immediately wrote this movie off when it came out. I feel like if they had gotten an actual director/screenwriter and not some guy who’d only done music videos before who just so happened to have a cup of coffee with a black metal band in the 80s we would’ve gotten a significantly better project
Most of them were just stupid fucking kids...but then varg happened and it went from edgelords to "holy shit this guy is actually fucking deranged" Varg is a massive P.O.S and hasn't changed. Lord knows why he's been released.
WOOHOO!! Always a good day when you post a new one dude - Many moons ago I walked into a bar with a local rock band on stage and dove head first into that sea of leather jackets and long-hairs like all my Chrismas's had come at once - you are literally my kind of people ♥
Well, to the point of the characterization as dumb edgelord teens.... they WERE dumb edgelord teens. There's some really weird romantization of Mayhem, Varg, and all their contemporaries, but they were indeed cringe inducing edgelords. Love the music but they were never some "misundertood geniuses". Hell, Varg never grew out of it
I thought it wasn’t bad, the acting isn’t amazing but the way this whole black metal scene just spirals out of their control and becomes bigger than themselves is interesting. They were just kids trying to be edgy and some took it too far, who cares if the movie isn’t 100% accurate there’s books on that shit. The drummer ‘Necrobutcher’ wrote a book on his time with the band called ‘Mayhem: The Death Archives’ that’s pretty good, goes into how they started and has a bunch of old band pics
I think it’s important to remember that the film depicts the actions and events that happened and less about the music because that’s what the kids back then were doing. It was more about looking metal than the music itself.
I have mixed feelings about it. On the plus side, I was pleasantly surprised by how accurate the clothes were. They actually really managed to capture the fashion of the time pretty much 100%. The locations were perfect too. The pacing of events as they unfolded wasn't bad either, and I felt the mood and the way they balanced the overall absurdity of these guy's lives with a sense of the underlying tragedy of it all was handled well too. On the minus side though, those American accents have to go. I would have done it in Norwegian with subtitles. They should have used more actual Black Metal as background soundtrack too. The lack of it was a glaring omission. Also, there was no need for the romance angle, and I thought some of the characterizations were way off - namely the depiction of Varg which imo was done on purpose out of - I'll wager - political animosity by people involved in the production with an ideological axe to grind. Overall though, it's a guilty pleasure I feel gets about 40% right, and 60% wrong. I can enjoy it, but I wish it had been more accurate as this is what casual viewers will take as gospel. For a more satisfying experience, try the excellent documentary Until the Light Takes Us which explores the subject matter more seriously.
Believe it or not the stabbing scene is unironically the most accurate part of the movie if you have ever seen someone stabbed adrenaline hits so hard you are more calm then you’d think and yes I know because I have been stabbed and literally I did almost the same thing I literally looked down saw it looked up and said why🤣🤣
In my opinion, your opinion is wrong. My opinion is right. This movie blows if you take it seriously, it's made as a mockumentary. Hence why it's narrated by the ghost of Euronymous lmaoo incredible stuff
You're entitled to your opinion but I lOVE this movie! I'm a 57 year old life long Metalhead. I first heard about Mayhem seeing their demo reviewed in Metal Forces Magazine. I'd expect elitist purist Black Metal fans to hate this but as videographer myself I understand how it's impossible to recreate a verbatim true life recreation. Also everyone who knows this story was NOT there to witness these events so have their own interpretations on what they've heard. This was directed by former Bathory drummer Joans Akerlund who is still very much a Metal guy despite his career making videos for pop acts. Despite a few minor flaws I think this is the best movie ever made about the Metal culture and a very accurate depiction of Metal Heads. I watch this film often and feel so at home!
Ok the chocolate milk bit is within varg's personality, but the film is very Euronomous coded. Like the murder of the gay man was depicted as self-defense and the varg stabbing appeared to actually be self-defense from what I've learned.
I didn't mind the movie but that aside, I remember Necro Butcher in the documentary Headbangers Journey and he came across as a drunken fuckhead. Several years later a friend of mine got us back stage passes to a Mayhem and Watain show here in Australia. The guys in Watain were top lads. Necro Butcher while not drunk still came across as a self conceded fuckhead. True story.
"This movie sucks because it doesn't take place in an English speaking country and everyone's speaking English with a North American accent" Don't show this guy Schindler's List or a ton of other movies that star English speaking North American actors based on real events that occurred in foreign countries. Bro's gonna hate on it. He couldn't get basic lore about the characters or even Norwegian culture right. Dead was not Norwegian. He was born and raised in Sweden. And the average Norwegian can speak English extremely well. Better than most native speakers can. It's very likely that they spoke English around Dead and they spoke it very well. I'm not the biggest fan of this movie, but that is one of the dumbest criticisms I've heard about this movie throughout the years.
Also I never said Dead was Norwegian nor that Norwegians can't speak English. My complaint was that none of them sound even slightly Norwegian. Like if every character in Schindlers List had New Jersey accents. Jesus try to keep up...
I'm old enough to remember when black metal was something cryptic and dangerous. There was an aura of mystery around it and you really had to dig and work to find the music. Blind buying demos from distros and sending well hidden money in envelopes to some sketchy guy in Europe to get a handful of cassette tapes weeks later. Now it's just a joke for edgy e-girls and dorks who make Varg memes on Discord servers all day. Or dorks on RUclips making wojak videos about the scene even though they were born in like 2001. Edit: some typos.
I mean, given the directors personal history with some of the guys in the scene, this movie makes perfect sense. The dude personally worked with Dead back in the day when he was starting out making music videos: most notably Candlemass's Bewitched. Not only that, none of the bands in the movies would exist given he was one of the founding members of fucking BATHORY. He was the drummer and his cousin was the bassist. Admittedly he was gone either before or right after their debut album, but still.
One last funny bit of trivia, in the scene where euronymous makes fun of varg's scorpions patch thst was made up for the movie. IRL it was actually Motley Crue but I don't think the movie could afford to license the logo. Imagine Varg rocking out to Too Fast For Love or Girls Girls Girls
He played on a comp he was in from 83 to 84. He played on SMA to be precise (2 songs lol), before leaving the band and eventually directing music videos With actual celebrities like Madonna, Beyonce, Lady Gaga etc. He doesn't have nearly enough credibility to have made this film.
I only like this movie for the fact that it angers the “trve kvlt” community. Still cringe and weak acting, couldn’t even finish it. Edit: Life Metal is an absolute 🔥🔥🔥 album
The bit at the end about “if you already know the story and want to see it as an SNL sketch” perfectly encapsulates why I love this dumpster (church?) fire lol
The sad truth is that whenever a story is taken over to be told by Hollyweird it just gets massacred and I agree this was possibly one of the worst if not the worst examples. It truly is a crazy story that was given a disservice by this joke of a movie. What movie execs will blow money on always amazes me.
I've known, what I feel, is closer to the real story for decades, I've met the surviving members of Mayhem 25 years ago. I know there's many inaccurate things, even completely fabricated events (and people), as well as cringe moments, but, it's just as the opening states, "Based on truth, lies, and what really happened." So, as a work of fiction that's peppered with some real life events, I couldn't help but enjoy the film. I laughed at how Varg was portrayed, the character is almost as meme worthy as the real guy that he bears little to no resemblance to whatsoever, and what the Hell is that laugh he does? The way Snorre was portrayed may be even more funny to me, "Tea anyone?"
Okay you’re extremely wrong about Rory’s performance, particularly during Euronymous’s death scene. It’s the most real feeling death I’ve seen put to screen and he really sells that shit.
I treat it sort of like nu metal. Do I like it? Not really. Is it annoying? Yes. Does it get people into metal? Somewhat sometimes. It's still unbelievable that we got an actual black metal movie
err dead was not Mayhem's original vocalist dude, Mayhem's bassist "Necrobutcher" was the original vocalist, after that they had a vocalist who went by the stage name "messiah", then they had a vocalist who's stage name was "Maniac" THEN came "Dead"
I had read a long time ago that Varg stabbed Oystein because he saw him wearing a white sweater or white shirt (kind of like how he looked in the stabbing scene in the movie). You would think in between the stabbings, Varg would have been a more sinister by at least grabbing a beer from the fridge. But nope, he busts out the milk and chocolate milk mix.
No offense, but tehnically they barely were adults, why would they put on overly edgy-satanists persona? Obviously they were edgelords more or less! I personally think Pelle's death is well executed but idk if the whole "got into college message from dad" was purely for emotional value to show that he still might've had a future ahead of him and that besides having his own "thing", he was still a very smart guy...
Black metal as a whole takes itself WAY too serious. To anybody else not into black metal who's watching from the side, they all seem like the characters from this movie - dumb spoiled teens parading around in corpse paint. I'd say this movie is a gut-punch black metal desperately needs. That's why all black metal fans hate it.
Watched this movie for the first time with 3 other guys who knew the whole story from vargs side and everybody elses involved in the story, and damn we couldn't stop laughing, is how stupid and ridiculous this movie is.
It's really stupid. The founding fathers of black metal were turned into Beavis and Butthead. Even Dead, which is even more tasteless. And in order to cater to the metal cliques, they didn't show what multifaceted musicians they really were. That lot of them had been listening to techno and electronic music in their free time since the 80s. Even Varg once wrote in a vlog about how he regularly visited a club called Phoenix.
@@currentofthesnake8486 yeah I'm sure about it. Just look at varg. He's an edgy geek. There's a lot of recordings of them being goofy. Their whole thing was being edgy. You think any of them actually worshiped satan? From what I've seen they acted just like in the movie
@@jurekavcic4369 What recordings?. Did you stand next to them with a recorder? Everyone may be stupid in life, even Einstein was that. That is called men. And Yes, they there Assholes. So i dont defend them als Humans, no Humas is worth of this. However, they took their art seriously, otherwise this music would not have come out. In the end it was even more than that, I already wrote about above and what you ignored you Goofball. I was and was never interested in the private cringemoment of people, but in the Art, which is always the serious Moment. But this aspect is completely neglected in this movie. Because its based of an cringe dumb Book, from a real Cringelord, and because this is the trend today that Greatness is not recognized where there is actually something Great. And Dead was not a joke figure, but was seriously mentally ill. Even if the others were represented as jerk figures, this is another dimension of tastelessness. No, that's why Dead was not a goofball.
@@jurekavcic4369 Do you know the film "Control"?. Why wasn't Lords of Chaos like that, or vice versa "Control", not a film about young musicians who were edgy and sad? In the end it's just complete nonsense and doesn't change what artists left behind. I have also already mentioned that this film is otherwise a tasteless misrepresentation of the mentally illness. The damn film didn't even bother to make a distinction. And I'm not defending Euro at all. He was definitely an asshole and Varg is a psychopath, that's well known. But even then the film didn't dare to portray them as the assholes and psychopaths which they really were.
also tbh ive never understood the complaint that they're not speaking in a norwegian accent. like if its about realism im pretty sure they'd just speak to each other in norwegian not english anyway so why on earth would they speak to each other in english in a norwegian accent... while in norway? it just seems like something cosmetic detail that doesnt actually make it more realistic or make sense to me
This movie isn't even good to reach for when you are high on drugs. Being high on drugs, I'll reach for a classic like Heavy Metal or Heavy Metal 2000 or a live concert DVD of some kind, that works also.
My first experience hearing about this movie was through the discourse of people complaining about the decision to cast a Jewish actor to play Euronymous; that set the tone for why I find it so amusing how much it upsets the black metal community, a community notorious for taking themselves too seriously. They dabbled in big-boy actions like arson and murder but Varg and company were/are lords of cringe. The dialog, casting choices, and accents are clumsy in this movie, though I give it credit for two scenes. The murder scene you mentioned, and the death of Per which is one of the most convincing depictions of suicide that I have seen on-screen. I am firmly in the camp of viewing this as a comedy, it seems too obvious a satire to interpret it as anything meant to be sincere or historically accurate. They lampoon everything about the individuals and the culture in a way that could only offend black metal enthusiasts. "this film, edge lords of cringe, depicts that as if they were all some dumb, spoiled, nervous dorks from the suburbs of Santa Monica." In a sense, they were. Norway is a utopia compared to many other countries including the United States.
The original story is so edgy that any film that ain't a documentary would be edgy. If any person went into this story hoping for much accuracy, they are a lost cause honestly. Alone that it was adapted from the book every BM musician hates, which is chilling on my bookshelf as we speak. Even better, I got into BM when I was indeed an edgy 14 year old. 20 now and the story is still captivating. The movie is entertaining, so the job was done here. The aesthetic of clothes and Helvete, close to accurate. That chocolate milk bit? The most psycho thing is him only adding one spoon of powder. Varg is also such an edge lord, I wouldn't be suprised if he did that to mess with Euro. Dead was under used, for me he is and always was the most endearing of them all, and he leaves 30 minutes into the movie already?
Been part of the Black Metal scene for 10 years now. Never bothered to watch this. But after watching your video all I can say is , man. I knew it was bad. But THIS bad??
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The only thing this movie was missing is a record scratch and freeze frame of euronymous getting stabbed with the voice over “yep, that’s me. I guess you’re wondering how I ended up in this situation.”
I'm honestly surprised that didn't happen
😂😂😂😂
Definitely fictitiously stretched to make a movie and weirdly casted but if you were to take the names and story of mayhem out of it I would say it’s a good movie 😂
Ha, awesome.
that would have made it better, because then it could be viewed as parody rather than some serious attempt that ultimately failed.
"The Edgelords of Cringe" Bro, that's regular Mayhem
One thing.. they actually WERE just stupid teenagers
I find it funny that every actor in the movie sounds like a California kid despite being set in Norway
What else did you expect the producer to do? Dialect coaches are really expensive and this movie did not have a Hollywood production money. The producer talked about the accents in an interview and said that he wanted to appeal to a wide audience since black metal has expanded from just its scandinavian borders, because remember the point of this movie is an attempt to get more people interested in black metal, and also because he saw other movies attempt to do different accents and fail horribly, and that was with easy and common accents let alone more obscure Norwegian and Swedish accents. So yeah not trying to hate or anything but I always feel the need to say this to people who bring the accents up because it seems that even if the producers did try with accents, with their limited budget they probably would have done a horrible job and you guys would hate either way. So no matter what the producers are losing
@@alvisarker8621 this is definitely a fair point. Seeing these actors try to pull off fake Norwegian accents wouldve arguably been more cheesy and silly, maybe making the movie an even more so bad it's good experience
They act like ones as well. It's a far cry from what these guys were like.
Norwegians also don't speak English with a Norwegian accent to each other in their daily life.
"UH HINGA DINGA DERGEN!"
Surprisingly I actually really like Lords of chaos
Just imagine it as a dark comedy and is amazing
I enjoy it as the hot mess that it is.
@@Grace-tg4oyright, when you realize it’s a hot mess you can kinda enjoy it a little more 😂😅
'imagine' is the right word, i still don't think the death scene of Pelle is something to laugh about.
@@raspberrynockwhat1935 neither do I
I still hate watching that scene because I love per, but I still enjoy the rest of the film
Maybe the movie was shitty because all of the people involved were massive edgelords but I like how goofy it is.
You know i'v never seen the film but I kinda want a glass of chocolate milk now
If there's anything to take away from this video it's this
I love chocolate milk
@@Togre3434 Same.
Trv Kvlt Chocolate Milk🤘
Choccy milk with a side of murder
This isn't the movie black metal needs, it's the movie black metal deserves.
Extreme nonsense here.
*For ironic purposes, I assume* ? !
That’s the typical hipstery take on anything vaguely badass that people have enjoyed for years. Break it down, feminize it, gay it up, and claim the people who enjoy it deserve it because we don’t like it and we have the power and money to destroy it. Lame.
@@DumHeather come out of the closet old man
@@DumHeatheryou said feminise and “gay it up” so your point doesn’t stand at all
As someone who was around new bands and having been stabbed, I can confirm that both experiences as portrayed in this movie are legitimately as awkward as they appeared on screen. The shock of being stabbed did make me say "why did you stab me?" before realising I was in danger of dying.
I honestly just love how ridiculous it is that Euronymous is played by a less drugged up version of Kevin McCallister
This comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I liked it if you watch the movie without expecting an accurate story the movie was fun, it also shows that all the members actually probably were cringey edge lords only they went further than all the normal edge lords, and it starts with the text: based on truth, LIES and what actually happened (the acting wasn’t the best though)
thank you, people dont understand a movie is for entertainment and MONEY! its not a fucking bible accurate movie
i love it because it is a big fuck you to varg lmao
I had a friend that happens to be communist and he couldn't enjoy Death of Stalin. When a fandom becomes a religion you need to chill the fuck out because you will see apostates everywhere
@@mhsdbfuihbdjffr they made him short and fat lmao
@@mhsdbfuihbdjfyes bro omg me too
This movie isn't meant to be a documentary, but an entertaining movie and the depiction as cringy edgelords is absolutely correct. They all were weird edgy kids: Varg was 20 when he killed Euronymous, Pelle offed himself at 22, Faust was imprisoned at 19. They where Kids acting evil, posing with medieval weapons and 3rd reich memorabilia. That you actually believe this and call them "brutal occult creatures" is just weird, dude. Those were kids wearing witch hats in their music videos.
Because clearly I said "brutal occult creatures" completely seriously and without sarcasm....
@@wyattsmetalthink you missed his point, but it's cool man. 🤘
@@FalseNi9e I didn't, his point was they were immature kids, which I say multiple times in my video.
explain us how being killed by an immature kid is better than being killed by a mature man.
in the kid's case is the victim less dead?
He didn’t tho?
I like Lords of Chaos, it's such a funny middle finger to Varg Vikernes with his ridiculous character.
@@Obscure4747 true. Knowing he hated the way he was portrayed made the whole movie worth while
when I saw how angry varg's fans/nazis were about the movie I knew that it's gonna be good/fun
That was my favourite thing about it too
@@bohodebozzo nazi's are far left socialists (i.e. the current democratic party, for example).... varg's not a far leftist. just sayin'
You care more than Varg did. 😂
"Edgelords of cringe" is a very good description of the whole Mayhem soap opera, it's a fucking youth rebellion that went slightly overboard
I actually did a bit of digging into the chocolate milk and according to a film buff, what a character drinks in film or TV indicates who they are as a person. For example, drinking plain milk with nothing in it means the character is pure, sweet and innocent. Drinking chocolate milk is a sign of corruption or evil beating good.
The only other thing I found was a quote Varg said once - "I killed him there and then because he tried to kill me. What else did he plan to do with the knife right after having attacked me?! Cut a slice of bread and have a chocolate milk?"
"You're tearing me apart Varg!!" Hahaha good one!😂
I loved this movie, it encapsulated everything funny about black metal and the portrayl of these people by awkward dudes in their 20s was a great way to show how try hard edgy black metal dudes are to this day. Met many black metal guys that behave very much like these characters and thats what made me enjoy the film so much. Its okay to enjoy things even if theyre not authentic to the truth.
The only accurate thing in this movie is how cringe black metal is.
The sad part is Rory Culkin's normally a pretty good actor. Or at least I think he usually is. Then again, I'm not exactly a thespian, so everyone is a better actor than I am.
The best thing about this film is it annoys Varg 😂
If you took this movie serious than YOU are the problem.
Lords of chaos the book was how we knew more about the black metal/death metal. The movie shouldnt have been called lords of chaos. Rory looked more like Fenriz than euro.
8:19 so Varg?
Dont lie Wyatt....you know this was a cinematic masterpiece😂
he is trying hard😂
my favorite thing about this dumb movie is the dude playing occultus just yelling out hail satan every once in a while lol
I'm not religious, but I hate seeing our old stavkirker engulfed in flames.
It's a beautiful piece of Norwegian history
The scene where Varg Vikernes kills Oystein Aarseth (Euronymous) was completely made up. According to Varg, Euronymous was fighting Varg throughout and Varg ended up winning. It could've easily been the other way around. Also I'm very positive given how Oystein let his Euronymous character take over his life he had no reason cutting his hair. Also Varg didn't drink chocolate milk.
Euromymous having short hair in this scene was based off of the crime scene photo of his murder in the news (which wasnt actually him, it was another dude laying there to imitate the crime scene)
@@glenndanzigsmanycats2045 This movie really let a prankster win, huh?
Iirc they didn’t have any actual metal music except maybe one track was because so many bands refused to be associated with this movie LMFAO
they could've just recorded some basic black metal for the film it wouldnt be expensive
I hate how this movie makes Euronymous look like the redeemed misunderstood hero at the end
This guy is like the penguinz0 of the metal community
It's like a dark comedy, I like how it makes fun of something that took itself so seriously. But it does have some nice cinematography here and there, so that's one point. But the lack of actual music from the scene is it's biggest failure
A friend a couple of years ago told me about mayhem and what happened, and a year back he sat me down and played the movie and started explaining every innacuracy. The movie felt like a couple of highschool friends listened to mayhem and were like "yo we can make a movie out of this".
Me and my gf think of it as a comedy movie. The way how they made Varg a spazz and euronymous a dork. Its hilarious ngl.
I watched Lords of Chaos and wanted to learn more about the Black Metal scene. Then I watched the documentary Until the Light Takes Us. I got a lot of education from the documentary than this movie. Watching it again made me laugh because it was like watching a black metal Game of Thrones 😂
"education" 😂
but that's how it's supposed to be - you watch moviesfor entertainment and docos to learn something. be weird if it was the other way around
its almost like one is a documentary focused on facts and the other is a movie focused on entertainment.
It's not a great movie but I will say I didn't expect a full on scene of Dead offing himself
This movie was the Braveheart of Black Metal. Absolute ballocks, And yet, Funny.
1:20 that’s exactly what they were, I don’t get it
"Maybe Mayhem are the Friends we made along the Way"
And then varg and Euronymous make out
Edge Lords of Cringe 😂😂😂
If you look at the film as a satire, it’s laughably enjoyable.
They were not allowed to use any music, not given permission.
The actor who played varg looks like my ex from the mental hospital 😭
Im not gonna lie, the chocolate milk scene was fucking funny
Stay very far away from anyone who is "Team Varg" 😅
I get what they're trying to do by making him look like an idiot. But you do a disservice to how intelligent and manipulative these people are by making out that they're goofy.
By underestimating fascists we allow them to slip by unnoticed and sink their claws in.
Agreed. Varg is a bad person but he’s also one of those well spoken people that can manipulate easily
I'm 100% sure the chockolate milk scene was purely for the prop departmet to show off their periodically accurate milk and O'boy containers.
I’ll be real here… the more Varg talks about the Black Metal scene, (especially after his latest book “To Hell and Back”), the more I think that this movie might be a more accurate portrayal of Varg than people might think
Yeah when you acknowledge that it's a cringefest, it becomes a fun cringefest.
I don’t really hate this movie mainly because it was my introduction to black metal and me and my friend still occasionally quote some of the dumbass lines. Plus I like the idea of showing these “ultra evil” people as a bunch of dumbass kids and the live performance in particular scene was really well done IMO. But the main things that truly hold me back from actually liking it is the GoT season 8 style screenplay that’s filled with some of the most cringe lines I’ve ever heard and pointless love story side plot that feels more like Euronymous fan fiction especially when you realize that the woman he’s with wasn’t even a real person; and just as importantly, the complete lack of direction is especially apparent in this. The actors look completely lost for a good chunk of this movie and when you give them a script this bad, no wonder everyone immediately wrote this movie off when it came out. I feel like if they had gotten an actual director/screenwriter and not some guy who’d only done music videos before who just so happened to have a cup of coffee with a black metal band in the 80s we would’ve gotten a significantly better project
Most of them were just stupid fucking kids...but then varg happened and it went from edgelords to "holy shit this guy is actually fucking deranged"
Varg is a massive P.O.S and hasn't changed. Lord knows why he's been released.
I need to see this. Black Metal finally has its own version of Bohemian Rhapsody or Dahmer
WOOHOO!! Always a good day when you post a new one dude - Many moons ago I walked into a bar with a local rock band on stage and dove head first into that sea of leather jackets and long-hairs like all my Chrismas's had come at once - you are literally my kind of people ♥
Well, to the point of the characterization as dumb edgelord teens.... they WERE dumb edgelord teens. There's some really weird romantization of Mayhem, Varg, and all their contemporaries, but they were indeed cringe inducing edgelords. Love the music but they were never some "misundertood geniuses". Hell, Varg never grew out of it
I thought it wasn’t bad, the acting isn’t amazing but the way this whole black metal scene just spirals out of their control and becomes bigger than themselves is interesting. They were just kids trying to be edgy and some took it too far, who cares if the movie isn’t 100% accurate there’s books on that shit. The drummer ‘Necrobutcher’ wrote a book on his time with the band called ‘Mayhem: The Death Archives’ that’s pretty good, goes into how they started and has a bunch of old band pics
I think it’s important to remember that the film depicts the actions and events that happened and less about the music because that’s what the kids back then were doing. It was more about looking metal than the music itself.
the chocolate milk scene was a refference to their meeting scene
Until the light takes us
2:35 why on earth should they speak with a accent? That makes no sense at all!
I have mixed feelings about it. On the plus side, I was pleasantly surprised by how accurate the clothes were. They actually really managed to capture the fashion of the time pretty much 100%. The locations were perfect too. The pacing of events as they unfolded wasn't bad either, and I felt the mood and the way they balanced the overall absurdity of these guy's lives with a sense of the underlying tragedy of it all was handled well too. On the minus side though, those American accents have to go. I would have done it in Norwegian with subtitles. They should have used more actual Black Metal as background soundtrack too. The lack of it was a glaring omission. Also, there was no need for the romance angle, and I thought some of the characterizations were way off - namely the depiction of Varg which imo was done on purpose out of - I'll wager - political animosity by people involved in the production with an ideological axe to grind. Overall though, it's a guilty pleasure I feel gets about 40% right, and 60% wrong. I can enjoy it, but I wish it had been more accurate as this is what casual viewers will take as gospel. For a more satisfying experience, try the excellent documentary Until the Light Takes Us which explores the subject matter more seriously.
100% agree!! I would have LOVED to watch this subtitled if it meant it was more authentic to the location
Also euro is literally gay idk why they have some girl portray as his gf 💀
Believe it or not the stabbing scene is unironically the most accurate part of the movie if you have ever seen someone stabbed adrenaline hits so hard you are more calm then you’d think and yes I know because I have been stabbed and literally I did almost the same thing I literally looked down saw it looked up and said why🤣🤣
In my opinion, your opinion is wrong. My opinion is right. This movie blows if you take it seriously, it's made as a mockumentary. Hence why it's narrated by the ghost of Euronymous lmaoo incredible stuff
You're entitled to your opinion but I lOVE this movie! I'm a 57 year old life long Metalhead. I first heard about Mayhem seeing their demo reviewed in Metal Forces Magazine. I'd expect elitist purist Black Metal fans to hate this but as videographer myself I understand how it's impossible to recreate a verbatim true life recreation. Also everyone who knows this story was NOT there to witness these events so have their own interpretations on what they've heard. This was directed by former Bathory drummer Joans Akerlund who is still very much a Metal guy despite his career making videos for pop acts. Despite a few minor flaws I think this is the best movie ever made about the Metal culture and a very accurate depiction of Metal Heads. I watch this film often and feel so at home!
Ok the chocolate milk bit is within varg's personality, but the film is very Euronomous coded. Like the murder of the gay man was depicted as self-defense and the varg stabbing appeared to actually be self-defense from what I've learned.
I didn't mind the movie but that aside, I remember Necro Butcher in the documentary Headbangers Journey and he came across as a drunken fuckhead. Several years later a friend of mine got us back stage passes to a Mayhem and Watain show here in Australia. The guys in Watain were top lads. Necro Butcher while not drunk still came across as a self conceded fuckhead. True story.
Why the fuck is everyone still shitting on this movie for views lmao, everyone and their granddad milked this shit to death lol
"This movie sucks because it doesn't take place in an English speaking country and everyone's speaking English with a North American accent" Don't show this guy Schindler's List or a ton of other movies that star English speaking North American actors based on real events that occurred in foreign countries. Bro's gonna hate on it.
He couldn't get basic lore about the characters or even Norwegian culture right. Dead was not Norwegian. He was born and raised in Sweden. And the average Norwegian can speak English extremely well. Better than most native speakers can. It's very likely that they spoke English around Dead and they spoke it very well.
I'm not the biggest fan of this movie, but that is one of the dumbest criticisms I've heard about this movie throughout the years.
literally
Weird I don't remember the Germans in Schindler's List speaking like Californian surfer bros
Also I never said Dead was Norwegian nor that Norwegians can't speak English. My complaint was that none of them sound even slightly Norwegian. Like if every character in Schindlers List had New Jersey accents. Jesus try to keep up...
4:06
To add onto this, there isnt even any blood on the knife
Well to be fair they're SUPPOSED to be cringey, you're supposed to see it from an outside perspective
I'm old enough to remember when black metal was something cryptic and dangerous. There was an aura of mystery around it and you really had to dig and work to find the music. Blind buying demos from distros and sending well hidden money in envelopes to some sketchy guy in Europe to get a handful of cassette tapes weeks later.
Now it's just a joke for edgy e-girls and dorks who make Varg memes on Discord servers all day. Or dorks on RUclips making wojak videos about the scene even though they were born in like 2001.
Edit: some typos.
cryptic and dangerous to your white gated community, right? lol
I mean, given the directors personal history with some of the guys in the scene, this movie makes perfect sense. The dude personally worked with Dead back in the day when he was starting out making music videos: most notably Candlemass's Bewitched. Not only that, none of the bands in the movies would exist given he was one of the founding members of fucking BATHORY. He was the drummer and his cousin was the bassist. Admittedly he was gone either before or right after their debut album, but still.
Also portraying them as dipshit edgelord teenagers was probably a lot more accurate than the bands themselves would willingly admit.
One last funny bit of trivia, in the scene where euronymous makes fun of varg's scorpions patch thst was made up for the movie. IRL it was actually Motley Crue but I don't think the movie could afford to license the logo. Imagine Varg rocking out to Too Fast For Love or Girls Girls Girls
He played on a comp he was in from 83 to 84. He played on SMA to be precise (2 songs lol), before leaving the band and eventually directing music videos With actual celebrities like Madonna, Beyonce, Lady Gaga etc. He doesn't have nearly enough credibility to have made this film.
My cat has more black metal credit than the director of this film
@@wyattsmetalyou’re the biggest edge lord of them all
Varg is awesome…Eyronomos was a creep
I only like this movie for the fact that it angers the “trve kvlt” community. Still cringe and weak acting, couldn’t even finish it.
Edit: Life Metal is an absolute 🔥🔥🔥 album
To be fair, this is a comically but also overwhelmingly accurate representation of the average black metal fan
The bit at the end about “if you already know the story and want to see it as an SNL sketch” perfectly encapsulates why I love this dumpster (church?) fire lol
This movie is brought to you by O'boy choccy Milk, you can't be evil without some choccy Milk in your daily routine🤣
10 seconds holy shit lmao
I doubt varg actually got laid that much like the movie portrayed
The sad truth is that whenever a story is taken over to be told by Hollyweird it just gets massacred and I agree this was possibly one of the worst if not the worst examples. It truly is a crazy story that was given a disservice by this joke of a movie. What movie execs will blow money on always amazes me.
I've known, what I feel, is closer to the real story for decades, I've met the surviving members of Mayhem 25 years ago. I know there's many inaccurate things, even completely fabricated events (and people), as well as cringe moments, but, it's just as the opening states, "Based on truth, lies, and what really happened." So, as a work of fiction that's peppered with some real life events, I couldn't help but enjoy the film. I laughed at how Varg was portrayed, the character is almost as meme worthy as the real guy that he bears little to no resemblance to whatsoever, and what the Hell is that laugh he does? The way Snorre was portrayed may be even more funny to me, "Tea anyone?"
Okay you’re extremely wrong about Rory’s performance, particularly during Euronymous’s death scene. It’s the most real feeling death I’ve seen put to screen and he really sells that shit.
I treat it sort of like nu metal. Do I like it? Not really. Is it annoying? Yes. Does it get people into metal? Somewhat sometimes. It's still unbelievable that we got an actual black metal movie
err dead was not Mayhem's original vocalist dude, Mayhem's bassist "Necrobutcher" was the original vocalist, after that they had a vocalist who went by the stage name "messiah", then they had a vocalist who's stage name was "Maniac" THEN came "Dead"
you have no idea how loudly i laughed at "edgelords of cringe"
I had read a long time ago that Varg stabbed Oystein because he saw him wearing a white sweater or white shirt (kind of like how he looked in the stabbing scene in the movie). You would think in between the stabbings, Varg would have been a more sinister by at least grabbing a beer from the fridge. But nope, he busts out the milk and chocolate milk mix.
The chocolate milk scene is crazy
This movie is what happens when a black metal movie tries to have Detroit Rock City's humor.
Lords Of Chaos to me is basically just The Room or Trolls 2 but for metalheads and I love it for just how bad it is
Varg Vikernes : The Suge Knight of Black Metal
”Edge Lords of Cringe” that’s a very fitting title for the film / movie.
Black metal in general
8:50 every gatekeeper ever
No offense, but tehnically they barely were adults, why would they put on overly edgy-satanists persona? Obviously they were edgelords more or less!
I personally think Pelle's death is well executed but idk if the whole "got into college message from dad" was purely for emotional value to show that he still might've had a future ahead of him and that besides having his own "thing", he was still a very smart guy...
"Edgelords of Cringe" fits almost any black metal band.
i did not realise how stupidly acted this movie was when i first watched it
Black metal as a whole takes itself WAY too serious. To anybody else not into black metal who's watching from the side, they all seem like the characters from this movie - dumb spoiled teens parading around in corpse paint. I'd say this movie is a gut-punch black metal desperately needs. That's why all black metal fans hate it.
Watched this movie for the first time with 3 other guys who knew the whole story from vargs side and everybody elses involved in the story, and damn we couldn't stop laughing, is how stupid and ridiculous this movie is.
It's really stupid. The founding fathers of black metal were turned into Beavis and Butthead. Even Dead, which is even more tasteless. And in order to cater to the metal cliques, they didn't show what multifaceted musicians they really were. That lot of them had been listening to techno and electronic music in their free time since the 80s. Even Varg once wrote in a vlog about how he regularly visited a club called Phoenix.
I'm sure they were just as cringey and edgy if not even more on rl
@@jurekavcic4369 Are you sure about it?
@@currentofthesnake8486 yeah I'm sure about it. Just look at varg. He's an edgy geek. There's a lot of recordings of them being goofy. Their whole thing was being edgy. You think any of them actually worshiped satan? From what I've seen they acted just like in the movie
@@jurekavcic4369 What recordings?. Did you stand next to them with a recorder? Everyone may be stupid in life, even Einstein was that. That is called men. And Yes, they there Assholes. So i dont defend them als Humans, no Humas is worth of this. However, they took their art seriously, otherwise this music would not have come out. In the end it was even more than that, I already wrote about above and what you ignored you Goofball. I was and was never interested in the private cringemoment of people, but in the Art, which is always the serious Moment. But this aspect is completely neglected in this movie. Because its based of an cringe dumb Book, from a real Cringelord, and because this is the trend today that Greatness is not recognized where there is actually something Great. And Dead was not a joke figure, but was seriously mentally ill. Even if the others were represented as jerk figures, this is another dimension of tastelessness. No, that's why Dead was not a goofball.
@@jurekavcic4369 Do you know the film "Control"?. Why wasn't Lords of Chaos like that, or vice versa "Control", not a film about young musicians who were edgy and sad? In the end it's just complete nonsense and doesn't change what artists left behind. I have also already mentioned that this film is otherwise a tasteless misrepresentation of the mentally illness. The damn film didn't even bother to make a distinction. And I'm not defending Euro at all. He was definitely an asshole and Varg is a psychopath, that's well known. But even then the film didn't dare to portray them as the assholes and psychopaths which they really were.
also tbh ive never understood the complaint that they're not speaking in a norwegian accent. like if its about realism im pretty sure they'd just speak to each other in norwegian not english anyway so why on earth would they speak to each other in english in a norwegian accent... while in norway? it just seems like something cosmetic detail that doesnt actually make it more realistic or make sense to me
This movie isn't even good to reach for when you are high on drugs. Being high on drugs, I'll reach for a classic like Heavy Metal or Heavy Metal 2000 or a live concert DVD of some kind, that works also.
My first experience hearing about this movie was through the discourse of people complaining about the decision to cast a Jewish actor to play Euronymous; that set the tone for why I find it so amusing how much it upsets the black metal community, a community notorious for taking themselves too seriously. They dabbled in big-boy actions like arson and murder but Varg and company were/are lords of cringe. The dialog, casting choices, and accents are clumsy in this movie, though I give it credit for two scenes. The murder scene you mentioned, and the death of Per which is one of the most convincing depictions of suicide that I have seen on-screen.
I am firmly in the camp of viewing this as a comedy, it seems too obvious a satire to interpret it as anything meant to be sincere or historically accurate. They lampoon everything about the individuals and the culture in a way that could only offend black metal enthusiasts.
"this film, edge lords of cringe, depicts that as if they were all some dumb, spoiled, nervous dorks from the suburbs of Santa Monica."
In a sense, they were. Norway is a utopia compared to many other countries including the United States.
if im remembering right, i think the chocolate milk scene is just there to ENTIRELY clown on varg claiming self defense
Yes, as you said, a Slinal Tap of Black Metal. That is the intent of the film and I think it did it well.
I enjoy the film.
The original story is so edgy that any film that ain't a documentary would be edgy. If any person went into this story hoping for much accuracy, they are a lost cause honestly. Alone that it was adapted from the book every BM musician hates, which is chilling on my bookshelf as we speak. Even better, I got into BM when I was indeed an edgy 14 year old. 20 now and the story is still captivating. The movie is entertaining, so the job was done here. The aesthetic of clothes and Helvete, close to accurate. That chocolate milk bit? The most psycho thing is him only adding one spoon of powder. Varg is also such an edge lord, I wouldn't be suprised if he did that to mess with Euro. Dead was under used, for me he is and always was the most endearing of them all, and he leaves 30 minutes into the movie already?
Been part of the Black Metal scene for 10 years now. Never bothered to watch this. But after watching your video all I can say is , man. I knew it was bad. But THIS bad??