Set up a new Surface Laptop 7 for Software Development
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Setting up a new Surface Laptop 7 with the Snapdragon X Elite chip for software development on Windows on Arm, the way I like to set things up for my own tasks.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:25 Index
01:15 System prep and cleanup
01:35 Examining process architectures
03:35 Power mode
04:50 High performance power plan
09:30 Developer settings
13:22 WSL setup
14:39 Ubuntu initialization
16:05 Central code location
17:40 Git setup
18:23 Winget
19:48 VSCode
20:40 Configure Git
21:18 Winget reference
21:50 Visual Studio
23:18 Quick note about VS Code and Visual Studio
24:57 Oops, can't do that on an ARM machine
25:46 Database management with SSMS
26:32 Node Version Manager and NodeJS
29:54 Using VSCode from Ubuntu
30:30 NodeJS example
30:48 Coffee Break
30:50 Python with Conda
33:37 New Python environment
34:35 Python test
35:04 Docker
36:32 Bonus magical tool for Windows 
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Have you tried running Azure Data Studio instead of SMSS?
You proud follower share a laptop if you can 🙏🏾
This is exactly what developers need when buying a new laptop, not running meaningless cinebench tests. The best youtube channel on youtube I've ever seen for developers
Best snapdragon x elite laptop review. There are 1000 and 1 benchmark testings but this is the only one developer environment setup video I have seen so far, answered so many questions
because most of 'reviewers' isn't reviewer, that why they need benchmark, cuz they don't know what to do tho
I would like to see performing this device in PLC programming area like tia portal or codesys...
McAfee never had a contract with Microsoft so it never appeared on Surface machines. They had contracts with HP and Dell so that's why those machines have them. As for the power settings, I'm just going to disagree with all your recommendations. Best Performance doesn't make your computer faster. All it does is it keep your clock rates high which is completely wasteful when you're doing nothing like when you're sitting at the desktop. You want the system to ramp up when you need performance and ramp down when you're doing nothing. You don't want your CPU to be running high when you're just watching aa video. That is why Better Performance is the best middle ground performance mode because it ramps down when you're not doing anything and ramps up when you need the performance. Recommended is the best mode for most people. It keeps the CPU clocks low most of the time. If you ever feel like you want better performance, then you can switch to Better Performance but Recommended meets the vast majority of people's needs. If you don't care at all about battery performance, then Best Performance is fine. Like a desktop should be Best Performance because you're plugged in all the time.
I think the highest performing machine in that video is you Alex! Thanks for the great and entertaining videos throughout the last few years!
The WSL error that you encountered is due to the fact of WSL feature being turned off in "Turn windows feature on or off" by default, upon running wsl command on command line it activates the option which can be confirmed in "Turn windows feature on or off" and a restart is needed to get the service on and running probably. I have faced the same issue, a restart is needed.
This is also the case when we try the Windows virtual box hypervisor, we first need to turn it on in "Turn windows feature on or off" and then a restart when a update screen comes up and then the software "Windows hypervisor" can be seen in start menu.
Finally someone said it! 'Semicolon is the only proper way to write JS' ! Great Vid Alex!
I'm really shocked what a great resource this was for someone who programs and wants to buy a laptop with Snapdragon X elite...
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admiring your specific laptop reviews, keep it up
Glad you like them!
@@AZisk Hi @AZisk I am about to start a software development career and I have been thinking the best laptop to buy until I came across your RUclips videos, right now I am thinking of buying MacBook Pro M3 and M3 Max. I have the budget for the laptop but I am still confused and I don’t know the one to get Or should I go for this new windows? Please I need your help🙏 🙏 I confused
So much goodness. Thank you for this! I tried it on a Lenovo Slim 7x. Windows actually looks compelling. Extra tips - if you like miniconda and docker, try micromania and podman.
@@user-od8re8us1y From what I have seen and done "I honestly haven't done ANY programming in years at this point, just passing though", but most people I have seen programing are using Linux, or Windows. Or like me, a mix of the two as a dual nvme drive Dual Boot on my Main PC, and my Laptop is also running just Linux which I got at Microcenter for $100 on sale and it does the job & plays Oblivion really well for Fanless Netbook lol. I have actually hear many Devs actually dropping support for Mac even though they have new tools out so take that as you will? I would assume programing for Windows/Linux on Windows/Linux would be a better choice unless you are making Mac Programs. Linux has GOOD programing support as well and installing the Linux on Windows Subsystem or Dual-Booting may be the best option, using something like a Lenovo Laptop with a lot of RAM, maybe all AMD/Intel as well for better Linux Support, having a nVidia GPU laptop could mess with the Linux side of things though it is getting much better. See if the laptop has support for more then one SSD as well, which would be good for dual booting if that is the route you want to go, Windows has a bad habit of eating the Linux Partition.
@@user-od8re8us1y From what I have seen and done, "I honestly haven't done ANY programming in years at this point, just passing though", but most people I have seen programing are using Linux, or Windows. Or like me, a mix of the two as a dual nvme drive Dual Boot on my Main PC, and my Laptop is also running just Linux which I got at Microcenter for $100 on sale and it does the job & plays Oblivion really well for Fanless Netbook lol. I have actually hear many Devs actually dropping support for Mac even though they have new tools out so take that as you will? I would assume programing for Windows/Linux on Windows/Linux would be a better choice unless you are making Mac Programs. Linux has GOOD programing support as well and installing the Linux on Windows Subsystem or Dual-Booting may be the best option, using something like a Lenovo Laptop with a lot of RAM, maybe all AMD/Intel as well for better Linux Support, having a nVidia GPU laptop could mess with the Linux side of things though it is getting much better. See if the laptop has support for more then one SSD as well, which would be good for dual booting if that is the route you want to go, Windows has a bad habit of eating the Linux Partition. PS RUclips, I beg you to fix comments!
I don't know why but your videos are very interesting. I have watched a few of your laptop reviews in the past and absolutely loved them.
Not all creators do this type of content. New subscriber!
I used to be a VB 6 developer back in the day but man these tools could have come in handy , another great tear down video thanks Alex.
This is what i was looking for. Thanks. Hoping for a WSL2-on-arm review in a few weeks.
Wow. So much fantastic detail! Thank you!!
I just ordered a Surface Laptop 7 for developing machine learning stuff. Your developer setup guide is great and I will use it in first place. It answers many of my questions about the availability of arm64 versions of the tools I use. Thank you so much!
This is a really good video, good job Alex!
I am not a coder, but PC enthusiast, and I find your videos very interesting to watch. I am following you for quite a long time and you have some magic in editing and voice.
The efforts you take to make these videos are commendable. Great Work Mate.
When you want to watch something on ytb and this notification pops :D. Now this is how you do a review :D
thanks for this! Very useful, I've been thinking about getting the base model surface laptop 7 just because of the battery life with the new chip. Good to see how it deals with the workflow :)
This video is great, especially for people who are used to macOS that want to try snapdragon out, even if you aren't going to use it for software development
You can spend $1000 to $2000 on a toy? You can’t code binary directly to the ARM CPU. MSFT is forcing you to go through the WIndows store! How would you make money?
@@tringuyen7519 I really don't know which extra proprietary windows you are using. And normally, you make money by working, not by selling an application.
the best pc setup video for dev ever made !!!
Literally every developer out there is waiting for your next video about this, which is hopefully comparing build times on projects, seeing if debuggers work - also with x86 compile targetsm, and just getting a sense for weather the UI flows better in the tools like Visual Studio and VS Code now. Also very curious about the jetbrains tools myself 👀
Waiting for more Alex!
Thanks Alex, keep making this very interesting videos
Great video Alex. Thanks!
5:43 I don't suggest you to use the "old" High Performance power plan because it will disable suspend option so only shutdown and hibernation (that you have to enable manually) will be avaiable.
Thanks for your Alex... Awesome video makes want to go back to being an active developer again.
thanks @alex to compile all setup and resources for developer. its really help
Yeah, that actual actions as developer when I get new machine.
Great and informative video. Thank you Alex. You got yourself a subscriber.
What an amazing video. Cheers & thank you
9:56 "We are developers, we are used to security risks and harmful stuff"
Ofcourse. We are the ones who creat them in the first place.
7:16 surface devices never come out with McAfee preinstalled
I don't necessarily plan to buy one of these devices but I still watched the whole video, it was really informative! Thanks Alex
Thanks for the video. It is very informative and exactly what I'm looking for.
You're KING.
Love the way you explain it.
And the pronucation are best, i didn't need to activate the subtitle 🎉.
Thanks for explaining the difference of node installations. It was confusing which one should you use to install. This is enlightening.
OMG, I just watched your security settings... I'm so glad you put the warnings not to blame you because you shouldn't run like that all the time.
I feel like they actually matured their translation layer on the Mac with thousands of people installing paralell lol
Amazing 🔥🔥
Love Alex being impartial with Windows machines. Wonder if he's ever gonna daily drive one of these 🤞🤞
i’ve been coding on the surface- by far my favorite out of the bunch.
Good video alex as always. You can also include oh-my-posh as part of dev workflow. Subscribed btw.
Thank you for the video!
nice vid Alex
I was gonna buy these Snapdragon PCs but based on my workflow, thanks for your amazing reviews.
I'd wait for gen two for bugs to get ironed out and efficiency to match Mac
I’m not an English native speaker and I appreciate the good diction 👍 The content is useful and concentrated. Thank you!
I'm not a developer but I just want to see how it feels for you to switch from mac to windows.
Thanks for the efforts ✌️
Thanks a lot! Interesting video
the edge and teams startup is better disabled from the app themselves.
if you disable in task manager, the background processes will stay when you open then close edge or teams.
and you can right click cpu in task manager to show details of each core.
adjust for best performance but enable Smooth edge of screen fonts to enable sub pixel font rendering
What a great video intro for developers / windows on arm. Straight to the point, but without missing crucial stuff. Really awesome. I hope one day we can code on iPadOS
Funny. All the tweaks you did on your Windows are exactly the same i do. I also pin the task manager, can't live without it. I'm thinking all that must be a OCD devs have 😅
Thanks man
Man, this is exactly the video I was waiting for. Very nice job, I really love your videos because you always try to be as objective as possible. Thanks a lot for all the effort and for such an entertaining video. Btw, how is the battery life after enabling the high performance mode? is it still good enough or it drops dramatically?
In my opinion in this first generation the only worth to buy would be the Surface base model. Even because easily you can replace the SSD for a better one and I think the performance is not so different between both processors, elite and the plus. But I will wait for your next video where you test both versions to make a decision. Also the MacBook air is on my list because I can get it nearly at the same price, but actually I never have been an Apple fan. I am still hopeful that developers release Snapdragon drivers for Linux soon and ARM distros can be easily installed on this new laptops, as long as I know, at least Tuxedo is working on that already.
Great guide, makes me want to switch to Windows laptop once again. It was funny how winged triggered that UI interface on Windows software installation
Great video. I use most of same software, but on Windows x86 and micromamba instead of miniconda.
excellent content
I used WSL on Windows for about 2yrs and it was good even with some hickups. Now I just use GH codespaces for everything and is just perfect for working on multiple projects on multiple computers with a perfect always fresh setup
The only video developers need to watch while making a purchase decision to buy a new Windows Laptop. I really appreciate the effort. And yeah, semicolon is the way to go.
Not watched the video yet! But thanks for all you do!
It's a long one, I know. Save it for later :)
@@AZisk haha! I’m 15 minutes in! I have Watched your last live stream and XElite videos at least 5 times each. I love the way you explain things. Great work! From the UK.
Surface devices never had a bloatware except for some default installs like Netflix or Spotify. But never anti virus software. It's the OEMs who installs these. One of the reasons I prefer Surfaces. Also the drivers are automatically installed via Windows update as firmware so that's another reason.
13:45 aktyually WSL will not give you a little Linux VM running inside windows. It will make both the Linux and your Windows kernels running as VMs on top of a baremetal hypervisor.
Hi Alex, nice video. I have noticed a big boost in visual studio performance when using DevDrive feature because it skips checking for malware when cloning big projects or node modules that takes all the CPU performance
One thing I would do before even doing updates is to take a clean image/backup (create a recovery media) of the machine if it is a prebuilt. Then go nuts with setting everything up.
Agree
please give a test of the npu. running models of different parameter sizes and quantization. also please mention the memory bandwidth on the npu
McAfee is owned by Intel now, so that is probably why they are always on Intel devices and might never go to ARM. It is a selling point for the new machines though
Great video, man. I am curious how this new ARM Support in the OS will impact the older ARM processor like in the Surface Pro X?
Hello Mr. Ziskind, just so you and the readers know, disabling edge in startup well disable it mostly but edge updater will still be running in startup. I believe it is diffrent than edge.
14:19 there's always that RISC hahaha
Thanks!
thank you so much! Takk
Hey Steel mug, I got one here too. although its water in it now instead of coffee
For fast admin mode, go in the terminal over the drop down arrow, do not click but make a right click and start as admin, a new terminal Windows opens
I started with installing Win 11 Pro. Search on task bar was not functioning w/o extra restart. Has happened also in x86 Win, so nothing special there. VS Code (Arm) installed like a breeze. Great video.
No issues with WSL/Ubuntu installation.
Great video Alex
I’ve been curious about the Snapdragon X Elite NPU, especially its AI capabilities and performance. It seems there’s limited information out there, so I’d love to see comprehensive tests conducted. If anyone has insights or knows where I can find more details, please share!
Would you recommend your setup for someone who is going to educate himself into programming? Thanks for the video btw!!
It will be insteresting to see the comparison between the three devices. I assume you're settting them up very similarly and do normal developer tasks to check real use performance.
I didn't know about winget ... Certainly gonna use that
Try wingetui. Thank me later
Nice review right there , quick question : can we dual boot on these new laptops with x elite?
Woow! Amazing review. I love this channel. Does it support Oracle Virtualbox vm or Is there a way to install it because I’ve read that they are not yet supported by the arm chips? Thank you
When I have got my windows 11 laptop, the first thing I did is to remove all unecessary bloadwere, such as copilot, edge, cortana, search, widgets, wether, clock, store, cloud services, xbox, preinstalled games and apps. And at the end I always install arch btw
Do a similar video for Chromebook Plus laptops. You should also take a look at the Project IDX for development in the cloud
Hi Alex, nice video!! Could you do this same video for apple laptops?
I look forward to future iterations of ARM chips that supports Windows. I’m sure Windows 12 will be the optimized OS for ARM processors.
Great content! What about the Linux testing, though?
I noticed that Edge will run in the background even tho "you" aren't running Edge. it can be running in the background eating a gig of ram just to run copilot and "edgeservices" and what not even tho I never gonna use copilot.
Thanks
thanks so much
Looks like you prefer a single wsl ubuntu with multiple version managers installed over running separate docker containers. Any specific reasons for that?
Awesome video btw, thanks so much!
"Such is life" - Alex Ziskind😁
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤❤❤
After watching countless windows on ARM videos, I can say that the only thing standing in its way is Microsoft. Bloat teams were unable to port their SW in time for the release 😅
I can't wait for you to try Linux on that machine.
hey Alex, I recently stumbled upon your channel when looking at a new personal dev laptop for hobby / learning projects. This was just before these new ARM chips. Honestly the laptop market here is so polluted if you don't want apple devices, but I must say you make great device/chip specific videos and they are really enjoyable.
I have been looking for a premium, high quality device that has a good display and battery life and I must say this video has helped me to maybe just 'beta test' one of these things. It all looks very fun and exciting. I know both Intel and AMD have caught up in terms of efficiency/power but I think this has more potential in the longer run since its a new thing that requires a lot of improvement whereas the others keep fine tuning the same things.
Also, any idea if Ruby on Rails works nicely via Windows/WSL on both x86 and arm64?
And would you recommend the Surface laptop or the Lenovo Slim 7x, and how big of an issue do you think not having 32GB of RAM is / wll be? (Only Surface laptop 15 has that and it is crazy expensive)
Thanks a lot for these videos! You are a savior!
You don’t need to specify -id in winget, it will install by I’d on default.
Hey I hope you'll make a Linux compatibility review
Hey, great video! Will R and RStudio work on these Arm machines? Thanks!
1:46 or ctrl+shift+ESC
You can use Podman instead of Docker :)
The initial configuration you did for "performance" is insignificant apart from the power setting. I know the feeling of setting everything of my liking but turning off animations and pre-installed startup apps aren't really helping with performance.
I watched a lot of Snapdragon X Elite reviews, but that made me wonder more and more what reasons one might have for picking it up instead of e.g. an HP Spectre x360 14" with Ultra 7, or a similarly configured Lenovo Yoga 7 14". Or simply compared to an Asus Zenbook with OLED screen. Snapdragon seems to be priced premium across all manufacturers, but you get relatively similar performance for that + added compatibility limitations (with a bit more battery life I guess).
Not to do all the CLI tasks twice, just set WSL2 to use the same home directory as Windows. I was doing it on Win 10 and it worked with no issues. Unfortunately it was some time ago, and I don't remember the details - but, as far as I remember, it was quite straightforward. Then you'll need not to set up .ssh, git, gnupg etc separately.
Waiting for the comparison between ARM and X86