Thanks for checking out video 7 where we start framing our hip porch. I will be installing the metal and trim details in the next video hopefully in the next day or so
Not a criticism but you could save yourself a lot of time with roof framing calculations if you would invest in: Full Length Roof Framer By A.F.Riechers. Mine has a date of 1917- renewed 1944. I've been using it for over 40 yrs. Just a hint. All rafter measurements are on top and on center. I noticed you made a center mark on your 2x12 but the purlin wasn't on the center. The 2x12 you have in the center is not a hip. In a normal roof frame that would be a common rafter. You are a master carpenter for sure but you could learn a lot from the book I suggested. The forward says: "A series of tables giving the full length of all rafter for any span, for 48 different pitches. Cuts and bevels for common, hip, valley, jack and purlin rafters; also cuts and bevels for gable and cornice mouldings, accompanying each of the 48 pitches with illustrations"
you prolly dont care at all but does someone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account?? I somehow lost my account password. I would love any assistance you can offer me
@Imran Kasen I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im in the hacking process atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
Kyle, even when you make a mistake, your correction is even better and stronger than it was originally intended to be. That's the hallmark of a true professional.
With Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
Thanks for screwing up once and a while, because it makes us feel better when we try a job and it is not always 100%.Showing us how to over come sometimes has as much value as showing the perfect finished job. Thanks Teacher.
Everyone makes mistakes. However, the craftsman can fix his mistakes so that no one will ever notice that an error was made. You are a master craftsman, Kyle.
Nice fix on the mistake. Building is all about solutions And how to quickly resolve them. We all make mistakes as much as we try not to. We do things a bit different in West Australia but quick fixes are always things to remember. Cheers bud
Awesome video! I appreciate the fact that you are humble enough to show your mistakes and own them. Not everyone out there would and its nice to see even a pro can mess up the math makes me feel more confident to own my mistakes and more important learn from them.
Ok, you guys give me some encouragement, I have been working on a cabin for over a year. Of course it is just me most of the time and my wife comes up to the mountains on the weekends. Hope to be done with punch out very soon. I am amazed how accurate you are and can explain the process also. My next job is my shop and after watching you guys, it makes me more ready to start that in a few months. Thank you Kyle.
Ryan, as a framer who has done lots of multiple bastard hips, I am not sure that your solution isn't stronger. Lots of mistakes have created new and better solutions. Nice work brother.
I'm a second year apprentice in the carpenters Union and this work looks like so much fun. I wish I could learn under you. I have done a bunch of metal stud framing but wood framing seems so much more interesting
We have a saying here in Australia - Nothing's f*cked until it can't be fixed. The hip rafter is a fine example. Keep up the good work big fella, I've been enjoying your videos for well over a year now, very different process to here in Oz. You may well have inspired me to have a crack at making own youtube video.
That beam saw is a monster. I'm a finish carpenter and used this saw to cut 4.5" thick wood panels. Build my self a track to ride this saw on for more precision . And you can get semi finish blade for it. The results are pretty good. We have felstool track saw ts 75 but it will only cut 2 15/16 " deep. So i feel you there Its not your everyday saw but when you need one you need one. worth every penny. Good job on your builds! Subscribed.
I'm in Australia, a retired Carpenter. Love your work, do it right first time, has always been my way. I'm really impressed with your detail on all the jobs. Love the Speed square, haven't got that type here yet, I will get one once they come out. I'm always looking for the next episode. Merry Christmas to all.
A little tip on the post bases. We always drill and put tapcons in each corner to help keep the posts from twisting the bases. It really helps on pressure treated posts that get a lot of sun.
That's some complicated detail! I, for one, appreciate the effort you put in to explain exactly what you're doing and show the maths involved in achieving the desired outcome. 👍
Man you worry too much. Everyone knows laminated is stronger. Your customers getting more for his money. Everybody wins. Been watching your videos this evening and very impressed with your precision and conscientious approach with all your jobs. Good work.
Love your work - a craftsman with the building material and tools AND with the video content and editing. Equally awesome how you explain and demonstrate even when it's freezing out! I'm in a completely different line of work yet watch every minute of these. Bravo!
Following along as fast as I can but I gotta be honest, I don't know what purlins are. So I wait for the final images and do my best to fill in the unknown quantity. Math and I have never seen eye to eye. Your explanations are clear, I just know what you are talking about half the time. Cheers.
Love your videos man! I'm doing contract work overseas, but looking forward to getting home and plying my trade on my own homestead. Nothing is better than working with your hands.
It's crazy how many different ways there is to build something n still come out with the same result. Definitely different than I would have done or what I have seen done but actually really cool looking that way
We always paint/treat the post bases with copper napthanate to help prevent rotting especially as the post bases have the lips up so they actually catch a little water.
I have no idea how I found this series, but now I’m a subscriber. Yes. The dude that can’t even hang shelves in his wife’s laundry room; the man that stopped checking his kids’ math homework when they hit 7th grade, is now a subscriber. Life is weird.
I hate math and I suck at it. This guy is a perfectionist hard to come by in this type of business. I don’t know why he didn’t just recur that 2x6 a little longer so it was the way he wanted it. I would have him build my garage anytime if he lived anywhere near Arizona lol.
Fantastic content. Thank You for all your video effort. Carpenter here in the UK. Wish I was in the US working on projects like yours. We don't get to do the great work that You do over here.
thank you Greg i love that saw that DeWalt drill is no joke and that drill bit too wow. your math work amazes me and i really love the way you explain everything
That rafter hip fix is definitely as strong or stronger than just running it as a buttjoint into the corner. It's grabbing the fascia over double the surface area, not loading up the same 1.5" butt edges with fasteners and potentially blowing it out, and the 12x rafter is putting the same equal load onto the column as it otherwise would have if you had done it the other way.
Mistake....? No sir that is called a "DSHRC" or a Double Sistered Hip Rafter Corner" these are usually added for extra strength in the corners in high wind areas..... (wink wink)..... Even when things don't work out just how you want it, you STILL teach us something Kyle, well done! Cheers from Tokyo
Give ya credit on the cut off the wall joining beam above but joint. Tricky cut. Only 5th hing I'd note myself is there shouldive been a 1 by in the center to stop the 2by from wanting to ride down the 2by12.. other then that.
S4S = Surfaced 4 Sides, not sanded 4 sides. They are run through the milling machine at a lower feed rate to give more knife cuts per inch which yields a smoother surface. Just a FYI, not busting balls ! Love your videos !
Great video as always. I'm not sure, but I was told that 4S lumber means "surfaced" and not "sanded" on 4 sides. Not that there's much difference in the end product.
Nice work on framing that roof, really. I know how challenging that can be. I actually think those 2x6 sisters on the corner rafter work just fine if not better than just the rafter by itself because it gives you better attachment from each facia...just some thoughts on it. I really appreciate your videos- thank you 🙏
Nice work. I noticed you didn’t put a ledger against the house to tie in your roof for edge nailing and what not. I would have done it with a ledger. Finishes out better for sheeting and drying the roof in. Good work tho man!
I've been thinking about doing a similar addition onto my house. It would be an open gable porch roof. The only thing I haven't quite figured out yet is how to tie the headers on either side into the existing wall of the house. I see that part was kinda skipped over in this video, but I'm curious how that was done? Any help would be appreciated!
Maybe I misunderstood the dimensions of the porch. Why would you not do away with the bastard hip by adding a one foot ridge instead of going to a point. Assuming 16” span and 9” long Like I said I might have misunderstood the dimensions. Your workmanship is appreciated. I am a perfectionist myself.
First time commenting but I have watched almost every clip or video you have made! Awesome work great craftsmanship and superb results every time. One question. I just watched this when you opened the cedar posts they were stamped interior on the ends. Do they have exterior grade cedar posts? If so I’d assume they were treated or something. Thanks for the great motivation and education in the next couple years I will be building potentially three post frame houses on some property I have acquired. I’ve learned tons from watching you and Greg knockout some beautifully constructed works of art. Keep up the good work and work!
That corner is actually a saddle style corner and we see them regularly on post and beam. I’ve seen some people call them tenon corners also but I don’t feel that’s accurate as there isn’t a mortise that’s is weight bearing. Either way, we see lots of corner like that where exposed eves are the plan
I do enjoy your videos, Thankyou for the effort you obviously put into them and your work. Infact I'm from Eastern part of IA so I've possibly seen some of your work in my travels into/across Illinois...I digress haha, sorry. ***My question: Asume you'd want to make the ceiling of this porch into vaulted ceiling, how or can that be done? I find the issue in the removal of the ceiling ties (the bottom 3rd of the triangle as I see it in my head). The long joists that make up the angle of the roof do have the building structure to lean against and downward onto the structures wall supports so are the bottom ties/ceiling joists/rafter ties, (I'm not sure of the exact terminology) completely necessary or would removal of them want to push your outermost posts of the porch roof outward, or basically would the roof wanna kick out the wall bc there's nothing connecting that wall to the ledger board of the building. I hope I didn't confuse this too much to understand. I appreciate your viewpoint/answer to this. Thanks -
Kyle, you do the maths (I'm a Brit!) really well but honestly it is so much easier using the metric system. Have you thought about trying it? Love your videos!
Love your videos and if you want try a cordless Bosch rotary hammer you could ask them if they want to sent one over the have 18 Volt and 36 Volt Rotary hammers also with that soft grip
more super sawsquatch footage please!!! I was so sad when you started saying you didnt have the big saw with you hahaha!! Thanks for another great video!
Thanks for checking out video 7 where we start framing our hip porch. I will be installing the metal and trim details in the next video hopefully in the next day or so
I really want to see a review before I buy it
Not a criticism but you could save yourself a lot of time with roof framing calculations if you would invest in: Full Length Roof Framer By A.F.Riechers.
Mine has a date of 1917- renewed 1944.
I've been using it for over 40 yrs.
Just a hint. All rafter measurements are on top and on center. I noticed you made a center mark on your 2x12 but the purlin wasn't on the center. The 2x12 you have in the center is not a hip. In a normal roof frame that would be a common rafter.
You are a master carpenter for sure but you could learn a lot from the book I suggested.
The forward says:
"A series of tables giving the full length of all rafter for any span, for 48 different pitches.
Cuts and bevels for common, hip, valley, jack and purlin rafters; also cuts and bevels for gable and cornice mouldings, accompanying each of the 48 pitches with illustrations"
you prolly dont care at all but does someone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account??
I somehow lost my account password. I would love any assistance you can offer me
@Ralph Jagger Instablaster ;)
@Imran Kasen I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im in the hacking process atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
Kyle, even when you make a mistake, your correction is even better and stronger than it was originally intended to be. That's the hallmark of a true professional.
I have had my own construction company for 10 years, been doing it for 15. This guy has my respect. Craftsmanship in all that he does.
With Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
The world needs more craftsmen who are hacks like you
Love how quick you are getting this series up.
trying my best to keep consistent on my posts
i like it when you said we are not in a perfect world bt your work looks perfect.
It's called rough framing for a reason...your craftsmanship is outstanding!!
Thanks for screwing up once and a while, because it makes us feel better when we try a job and it is not always 100%.Showing us how to over come sometimes has as much value as showing the perfect finished job. Thanks Teacher.
Unbelievable carpenter. Love the fact that you take pride in your work and share it with the world
Everyone makes mistakes. However, the craftsman can fix his mistakes so that no one will ever notice that an error was made. You are a master craftsman, Kyle.
A. Mistake is not a mistake until you walk away then its a mistake
Nice fix on the mistake.
Building is all about solutions
And how to quickly resolve them.
We all make mistakes as much as we try not to.
We do things a bit different in West Australia but quick fixes are always things to remember.
Cheers bud
Awesome video! I appreciate the fact that you are humble enough to show your mistakes and own them. Not everyone out there would and its nice to see even a pro can mess up the math makes me feel more confident to own my mistakes and more important learn from them.
Ok, you guys give me some encouragement, I have been working on a cabin for over a year. Of course it is just me most of the time and my wife comes up to the mountains on the weekends. Hope to be done with punch out very soon. I am amazed how accurate you are and can explain the process also. My next job is my shop and after watching you guys, it makes me more ready to start that in a few months. Thank you Kyle.
Ryan, as a framer who has done lots of multiple bastard hips, I am not sure that your solution isn't stronger. Lots of mistakes have created new and better solutions. Nice work brother.
Dude. You're a great builder. I've never seen hips framed like that.
He really is. His attention to detail is crazy good. His math skills are at another level.
Your logo in the housewrap is badass thats awsome!!!!!
I am very happy about doing that.
I'm a second year apprentice in the carpenters Union and this work looks like so much fun. I wish I could learn under you. I have done a bunch of metal stud framing but wood framing seems so much more interesting
We have a saying here in Australia - Nothing's f*cked until it can't be fixed. The hip rafter is a fine example.
Keep up the good work big fella, I've been enjoying your videos for well over a year now, very different process to here in Oz.
You may well have inspired me to have a crack at making own youtube video.
That beam saw is a monster. I'm a finish carpenter and used this saw to cut 4.5" thick wood panels. Build my self a track to ride this saw on for more precision . And you can get semi finish blade for it. The results are pretty good. We have felstool track saw ts 75 but it will only cut 2 15/16 " deep. So i feel you there Its not your everyday saw but when you need one you need one. worth every penny. Good job on your builds! Subscribed.
I'm in Australia, a retired Carpenter. Love your work, do it right first time, has always been my way. I'm really impressed with your detail on all the jobs. Love the Speed square, haven't got that type here yet, I will get one once they come out. I'm always looking for the next episode. Merry Christmas to all.
A little tip on the post bases.
We always drill and put tapcons in each corner to help keep the posts from twisting the bases.
It really helps on pressure treated posts that get a lot of sun.
Not a bad idea at all!
Yes, we do too. We have demo’ed pressure treated joist floors that the twist has buckled the joist hangers, especially hangers with missing nails.
That was pretty cool seeing all the math that was involved in the porch. You definitely produce high quality buildings.
The math is over my head not being there and at least helping but let's just say I am IMPRESSED!!!!
That's some complicated detail! I, for one, appreciate the effort you put in to explain exactly what you're doing and show the maths involved in achieving the desired outcome. 👍
Great framing video. I'm a civil engineer so I enjoy the figuring part. Keep videos coming.
Man you worry too much. Everyone knows laminated is stronger. Your customers getting more for his money. Everybody wins. Been watching your videos this evening and very impressed with your precision and conscientious approach with all your jobs. Good work.
That hip porch looks perfect !!!
Love your work - a craftsman with the building material and tools AND with the video content and editing. Equally awesome how you explain and demonstrate even when it's freezing out! I'm in a completely different line of work yet watch every minute of these. Bravo!
Can’t get enough of your videos!
Following along as fast as I can but I gotta be honest, I don't know what purlins are. So I wait for the final images and do my best to fill in the unknown quantity. Math and I have never seen eye to eye. Your explanations are clear, I just know what you are talking about half the time. Cheers.
this was a mighty impressive video. problem solving and proper math done at the highest level. so great to see! love your work Kyle!
Love your videos man! I'm doing contract work overseas, but looking forward to getting home and plying my trade on my own homestead. Nothing is better than working with your hands.
Your hack is better than most people's normal work.
This is one of the best channels I have encountered on RUclips! Keep up the good work!
I agree with you 100 percent everything starts from the start and the rest goes smoothly , keeping it square.
Those Simpson concrete fasteners are fantastic. They bite like nothing else.
Favorite part of the videos; framing up the structure. Nice looking roof, and those posts look clean.
It's crazy how many different ways there is to build something n still come out with the same result. Definitely different than I would have done or what I have seen done but actually really cool looking that way
Kyle, really like your attention to detail. ATD. Great work.
Kyle the Mancave is coming along real nice! Super job on the porch looking forward to the next video! Thanks for the excellent content!
Beautiful framing, a true craftsman
We always paint/treat the post bases with copper napthanate to help prevent rotting especially as the post bases have the lips up so they actually catch a little water.
I have no idea how I found this series, but now I’m a subscriber. Yes. The dude that can’t even hang shelves in his wife’s laundry room; the man that stopped checking his kids’ math homework when they hit 7th grade, is now a subscriber. Life is weird.
I hate math and I suck at it. This guy is a perfectionist hard to come by in this type of business. I don’t know why he didn’t just recur that 2x6 a little longer so it was the way he wanted it. I would have him build my garage anytime if he lived anywhere near Arizona lol.
That looks the business! Awesome work
I think my brain just exploded!!! Nice job on all of them cuts!
Fantastic content. Thank You for all your video effort.
Carpenter here in the UK.
Wish I was in the US working on projects like yours.
We don't get to do the great work that You do over here.
thank you Greg i love that saw that DeWalt drill is no joke and that drill bit too wow. your math work amazes me and i really love the way you explain everything
I love the smell of cedar in the morning!
Great video. I see the guys doing the house Finally got to work on framing the house
So good at what you do. Keep up the good work.
Great video!!! Why the purlins?
That rafter hip fix is definitely as strong or stronger than just running it as a buttjoint into the corner. It's grabbing the fascia over double the surface area, not loading up the same 1.5" butt edges with fasteners and potentially blowing it out, and the 12x rafter is putting the same equal load onto the column as it otherwise would have if you had done it the other way.
Crazy math skills brother!!
Even from the Netherlands, very nice job....
Great information in this. Hip roofs can be a real pain.
Mistake....?
No sir that is called a "DSHRC" or a Double Sistered Hip Rafter Corner" these are usually added for extra strength in the corners in high wind areas..... (wink wink).....
Even when things don't work out just how you want it, you STILL teach us something Kyle, well done!
Cheers from Tokyo
Don't worry about that error, it was fixable....
Thanks for your videos
To notch stuff mate, precision work.
Oh shit I didn't know Camelo Alvarez did roof framing! Good video!
You inspired me to be a builder from Australia
Give ya credit on the cut off the wall joining beam above but joint. Tricky cut. Only 5th hing I'd note myself is there shouldive been a 1 by in the center to stop the 2by from wanting to ride down the 2by12.. other then that.
Man your badass. Love your work!!!
Nice job Kyle! Keep up the great work!
Love the videos and your attention to detail.
great job there greg i am learning a lot from you
Now this guy is a real framer..
Just a perfect shed building guide
S4S = Surfaced 4 Sides, not sanded 4 sides. They are run through the milling machine at a lower feed rate to give more knife cuts per inch which yields a smoother surface. Just a FYI, not busting balls !
Love your videos !
Bush fix at its finest. 👌🏽
Nice work, made my head hurt a little.
Great video as always. I'm not sure, but I was told that 4S lumber means "surfaced" and not "sanded" on 4 sides. Not that there's much difference in the end product.
You may have made a mistake, but everyone does. I'd say your fix is stronger than it would have been without a mess up lol Good work
That hip roof porch is going to look snazzy.
Nice work, I've got a hip roof on my shop, and I liked it so much it built on for my shed!
Nice work on framing that roof, really. I know how challenging that can be. I actually think those 2x6 sisters on the corner rafter work just fine if not better than just the rafter by itself because it gives you better attachment from each facia...just some thoughts on it. I really appreciate your videos- thank you 🙏
Nice work. I noticed you didn’t put a ledger against the house to tie in your roof for edge nailing and what not. I would have done it with a ledger. Finishes out better for sheeting and drying the roof in. Good work tho man!
what a luxury of tools.,.,.,greetings frfom argentina.,.,
I believe you sir, are a reincarnated Egyptian pyramid engineer, now building power pergolas! Very nice!
No one is perfect. I like that 😁
Te invito a visitar mi canal, quiza te sirva.
I would love to know what square rafter is that you use ? The one with the level attached to it. Big thanks. Keep the amazing work uo
I follow you from your first video, and I'm glad to see your channel grow, good work and greetings from Italy 👍👏🏻👏🏻
thanks a ton
That’s it. Now I can’t follow you anymore with that mess up! Lol. Great video as always.
I've been thinking about doing a similar addition onto my house. It would be an open gable porch roof. The only thing I haven't quite figured out yet is how to tie the headers on either side into the existing wall of the house. I see that part was kinda skipped over in this video, but I'm curious how that was done? Any help would be appreciated!
Love it! As always amazing work!
Maybe I misunderstood the dimensions of the porch.
Why would you not
do away with the bastard hip by adding a one foot ridge instead of going to a point.
Assuming 16” span and 9” long
Like I said I might have misunderstood the dimensions.
Your workmanship is appreciated.
I am a perfectionist myself.
I was wondering about that myself. Turned out looking good though.
Dieresta told me to tell you If you can’t see it, it’s not there. But it’s nice to know you’re human, man.
I want that camo hat, and I want your team to come up to central MN in a few years to build my man cave shed. Love your videos
You are good my friend God bless
From Mexico like your video
First time commenting but I have watched almost every clip or video you have made! Awesome work great craftsmanship and superb results every time. One question. I just watched this when you opened the cedar posts they were stamped interior on the ends. Do they have exterior grade cedar posts? If so I’d assume they were treated or something. Thanks for the great motivation and education in the next couple years I will be building potentially three post frame houses on some property I have acquired. I’ve learned tons from watching you and Greg knockout some beautifully constructed works of art. Keep up the good work and work!
That corner is actually a saddle style corner and we see them regularly on post and beam. I’ve seen some people call them tenon corners also but I don’t feel that’s accurate as there isn’t a mortise that’s is weight bearing. Either way, we see lots of corner like that where exposed eves are the plan
I do enjoy your videos, Thankyou for the effort you obviously put into them and your work. Infact I'm from Eastern part of IA so I've possibly seen some of your work in my travels into/across Illinois...I digress haha, sorry.
***My question:
Asume you'd want to make the ceiling of this porch into vaulted ceiling, how or can that be done? I find the issue in the removal of the ceiling ties (the bottom 3rd of the triangle as I see it in my head). The long joists that make up the angle of the roof do have the building structure to lean against and downward onto the structures wall supports so are the bottom ties/ceiling joists/rafter ties, (I'm not sure of the exact terminology) completely necessary or would removal of them want to push your outermost posts of the porch roof outward, or basically would the roof wanna kick out the wall bc there's nothing connecting that wall to the ledger board of the building. I hope I didn't confuse this too much to understand. I appreciate your viewpoint/answer to this. Thanks -
I think it’s all In how it is fastened. Def could be done
you did a nice fix to that mistake
Kyle, you do the maths (I'm a Brit!) really well but honestly it is so much easier using the metric system. Have you thought about trying it? Love your videos!
Nice work GOOD JOB
Very very good great work bro
Wow nice lovely I like
Love your videos and if you want try a cordless Bosch rotary hammer you could ask them if they want to sent one over the have 18 Volt and 36 Volt Rotary hammers also with that soft grip
more super sawsquatch footage please!!! I was so sad when you started saying you didnt have the big saw with you hahaha!! Thanks for another great video!
Always lubricate an SDS bit when using a rotary hammer