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To me one of Furinas best teams is Kokomi Taser... Kokomi makes surebthe team has max stacks and you can build Raiden or Fiachl for Damage along with Kazuha...theres plenty of particle generation, healing and Damage especially when youre playing like against like 3-4 enemies at a time
I initially thought furuna was just a buffer and considered her e (still leveled up her e) useless but when i saw a 40k hydro damage on my screen (solo hydro) i was like "wait a minute"
And I thought the other way I was like buffs are cool but damage is better. Well might be because I got her signature weapon and some good artifacts. But her damage is pretty dope. You can just put raiden and furina together and then watch the overworld get burned to nothing just by walking.
She is a great edition in my exploration team, she obliterates any overworld enemies in a matter of seconds without doing anything because of her skill and she can infinitely walk on water. Also because of her wide range basic attack, it is soo much easier to collect wood while being protected by your skill if there's any hidden enemies.
?? Why bennett? Bennett is only buffing Noelle on this team because yelan and furina dont care about attack. Replace Bennett with gorou for double geo resonance and DEF buffing
@polychromaa "Bennett is only buffing Noelle" Well, given that she is being used as the on field DPS/driver, that doesn't sound too bad... We don't know if they have a built Gorou.
You've been playing since 1.8 (at least) and the most you've gotten was 33 stars? There were definitely abyss rotations that fit extremely well with Raiden, Nahida, Hyperbloom, or National. Even as full F2P, I've been able to 36-star the abyss every time after 1.5 years. Did you take a long break or something?
@@jyashin I tend to build and play supports instead of DPS characters, I don't pull or use many male characters, my artifacts are not that good, I don't use reactions because I use freeze, geo and physical instead.
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10:18 jamiekb9v has a video showing CN speedrunners using Furina's healing mode to get 2 extra healing ticks during her Burst animation. Charge Atk > E > Q > Charge Atk
15:07 Honestly I can see Cyno's issues being fixed, if we get a really good electro healer, because the reason why Cyno needs to be on field for a long time, is for recharging his burst, so having an electro battery will allow you charge his burst faster and swap early to Nahida to refresh her skill, if you need to.
She's definitely the best designed char so far. She give massive buff but unlike Bennet who just need stack ATK and ER (very linear), you must be more proactive with your build, teammates and rotation. She encourage us to learn more about how to use her the right way and that's very rewarding experience. Burst bot? She can do it. Of field DPS. Got it. Main DPS? Well need more investment but she can do it.
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May not be the best character.. but definitely the best support buffer in the game.. she singlehandedly revives all "dead" characters.. and with her off field damage and team damage buff, she can carry weak characters like Dehya..
Yes after all these circling around and pretending she revived dead characters the theorycrafting went back to Bennet and what do you know not max stacking fanfare doesn't matter because Bennet buffs so much that it's way stronger than any teamwide healer.
@@thebrigade7684 and here is a funny thing people dont play the game to max out damage or optimally coz thats not what the game is made for, more damage is good but having fun is the best. i for one use furina everywhere i can. and guess what furina can 36 star the abyss so the argument she is not crazy strong is already in the trash. and abyss is the only place where you actually care about the buffs. if you are caring about fanfare outside of abyss. man something is wrong these overworld die in a single shot from the crab summon. literally from a single shot. and as for bennet the best place to use bennet is with xiangling, xinque and kazhua. now if you want to keep playing the same old team do it who cares but i dont understand this, who do you care is she is better than bennet or any other character, like seriously why do you care as long as she is not a half baked disfunctional character that doesn't help you in any way.
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The Heal amount being insane is one thing but the range is what is amazing, I love kokomi in coop but getting people to stand near enough to it is pain while furinas is basically a nahida dome. And thats not talking about the 30 sec up time lol
@@someonesomewhere8658 I know, but you would be amazed at peoples ability to take too much damage in the 8 seconds or so downtime. I'm not saying kokomi isn't good (she's amazing in coop with onfield damage+healing+hydro ap) but furina's heal is braindead easy and completely constant.
And worth noting this applies to non-co-op as well. For a new player, that they can just plop down this healing, have it up 100% of the time, and it cover them anywhere in a domain, without caring about energy... Sure, not a consideration for us, but a very nice QoL addition for a new player, whose other options are Barbara (uptime, energy, and wet issues) or Noelle (energy issues, wants field time, needs gearing, a character that should not be on the novice banner). And for those of us more geared, it is nice in the Wanderer weekly, during the shield breaking part, and can be used to get some healing in during various boss stage changes during which we can't damage them.
Furinas healing mode does have a use. You do charge attack > E>Q > Charge attack at the beginning of the rotation and it gives 2 extra healing ticks for furina which helps your team get max stacks faster than doing E>Q. Chinese speedrunners have been using it on teams with single target healers and it helps ALOT.
I still believe that she’s the best Character in the Game. Being her the best character is existed; as far as I see; because the best DPS in the game is existed, and he’s Neuvillette; so there’s a chance of the existence of the best support in the game; also. And it’s Furina. She’s literally Neuvillette if he was a support-roled character. Her being able to do so much damage, even higher than Yelan in solo Hydro teams, and a lot higher damage than Xingqiu, especially in AoE; while giving 75% damage% to her teammates, and work with even the non-normal attack characters, while her skill is on 30s duration; to decrease the HP% of her teammates, after they got healed; so their HP% will be under 50%; so they will be very ready to get healed; to get the maximum amount of Fanfare stacks; in the next combo. And she also make the Maru Hunter Artifact, which’s a broken set; viable to all characters. While will make her the best character in the game; in my opinion…
Cyno could be fixed with one tiny change, letting his burst stay while he swaps out. Boom. Nahida, VV/Kazuha, and Fischl can be reset during his burst if needed. It would feel like a quick swap team just fluidly resetting his burst and his buffs during the windows between his endseers.
Furina - Hydro : arguably best and most flexible element - unlimited off field time - walk on water - high personal DPS - apply decent hydro - buffed literally everyone esp. with M. Hunter artf - makes heal all become useful buff (increase team survival while adding more dps) - all at C0 Yeah. I dont see anyone can outdone what Furina does in foreseeable future.
Key furina made my wrio c1 ditch 1.57m dpr per rotation with bennett and xiangling. Key changes so much for that vapemelt team with wrio being the major melt dps. She's a godsend for my beloved wrio, definitely worth it.
My gut feeling is that we're going to see the highest hp totals in the Abyss by a decent margin very soon, due to Furina. Her impact on the median damage is that impactful, and especially if the quantity of C2+ Furina havers is decent. Which is going to suck for those that skipped her and weren't comfortably clearing the Abyss currently.
The only two teams I consider switching to healer Furina in is Lyney and Wriothesley teams. More so Lyney because you can run three pyros, get his stacks easily and not worry about anything removing the aura
Oh boy my F2P Yelan: C1 with Aqva with C0 Furina (key) with C6 Fischl and of course Jean is my new strongest single Target team (but kill fast also in AOE one enemy by one) is my fav team with Furina and Yelan as Dps (Or less better team with Raiden) And honestly I don't have any ER sands on anyone or ER weapons and I don't have any problems
4:08 Furina helped me to push out every single 4 star in my teams I removed reliance on kazuha for god sakes. This abyss I ran Raiden furina sara and jean and hutao yelan mona and zhongli.
At C2+ the podcast wouldn't last 10 secs as there's not even a discussion, she becomes the absolutely best character in the game by VERY far, 100% bonus dmg or 124% at C3 which you get stupid easy not even requiring a healer as even a Prototype Amber maxes her stacks or even with a single target healer like Bennet you can max her 140% extra hp from C2 that provides her lots of extra pets dmg and of course at C6 she becomes one of the best DPSs with 6 hydro hits for 200-250k each or 3+ vapes of 600-800k each.
A C2 Nahida is about the exact same % of team damage increase as furina is at C2. Yet it seems like everyone is loosing their minds on this I guess being new means you are the best ?
@@thebrigade7684As a C2 Nahida owner she's only for dendro teams, even more niche at C2 and her value compared other dendro units depends on what's the team. That being said she's obviously amongst the best supports and as a F2P she's one of the only 3 characters I bothered to have at C2+
@@thebrigade7684 Furina C2 opens up even more teams while the contribution is similar to Nahida's. Also, C1 Furina >>> C1 Nahida, so you gain more relative power by getting 2 extra cons for Furina than Nahida. As an add-on bonus, Furina has better cons after C2 as well, so if you even remotely consider more cons on rerun...
@@Yanaro-pi8pt Furina C6 yeah sure you can ignore any upcoming healers if you get it yes. C4? 5 energy every 5 seconds is not "noticeably' better than 120-160 EM so you'll either stop C0 or C2 or C6. Though you have to really love her to go that far
I don't know if I'm using Furina wrong but she seems to wipe my team more than any enemies I encounter. I don't like the drain hitpoint mechanic. And yes, I run her with a healer (Jean usually) and she can't keep up. Jean is under geared a bit but in fights where I take 50% damage from a boss and Furina furnishes the other 50% I'm having to res alot.
My current favorite team is Ayato/Kazuha/Furina/Jean I call "Purifying Water" because of the constant hydro application which is enough to override pyro aura on Abyss Lector and cleanse while providing attack speed
i farked up BIGGLY for not getting her. I even love to use Noelle, why am I such a dumbass! yes I am saving primos for Clorinde. characters I still want NAHIDA , Raiden, and now Furina
C1 Yelan w/ fav + Furina has no energy issues w/o ER sands. I try Wrio as the main dps with Charlotte healer but I usually end up with Yelan as the main. Wrio is great when his skill is up but it drains his hp too fast. His C1 is much appreciated to main him w/ furina. Ayaka would be better but I mean, Raiden. So maybe her next banner lol.
Have you ever used mono hydro. Like only hydro. Kokomi, yelan , xq, and furina. It's pretty fun and no er issue ever. It's just burst after burst after burst and You can always add another element like electro or anemo grouper according to your needs.
So I think furina is a very good unit. But imo genshin isn’t about meta u don’t need to play meta to beat every aspect of the game so what does that mean? It means meta’s value just isn’t as important and you can consider other factors such as do u like the character? Are they fun to play? I think nahida is hands down the best unit in the game even though I dislike how she looks she enables more teams and more diversity in teams. She makes the game more fun to play dendro based teams and I really do not like nahidas looks cannot stress that enough but she does make the game more fun and enjoyable and imo that’s the most important aspect of genshin cause it is just a fun game not endgame focused. Also I think furina feels pretty bad to use for newer players and that’s something to consider while nahida early on I think is no question the best unit in the game.
Sorry for the unintended flex, but my C6 Furina (213 pulls total--my first and only limited 5 star!) doesn't use a team. Her best team comp is two empty slots and a fourth slot with, I dunno, a fire bow user for overworld puzzles? Just stupidly strong at >10 talents.
My brothers, you haven’t talked about how she’s viable to every Pyro character in the game, not like the others; without mentioning names… Hahahahahahaha. ❤️
I feel like you didn’t even answer most of the questions. The hyperbloom question for example literally didn’t get touched on after like one sentence. Double hydro strong is too vague. Does that not include some HB teams? Is it just better for baby accounts?
This is wrong regard Furina Charlotte and Ayaka, refer to Jamiekb9v for ayaka meta, details analysis of why its not so much better, takes from a real TC, guide writer for KQM and competitive speedrunner. Well at least half of the takes here I can agree and not all wrong, but overall half of it was abit misleading.
It’s not that I think it’s better. I don’t. I think it’s a nice alternative option for people who don’t invest into her premium team and it’s a nice alternative option.
@JelloImpact ah forgive me, if I misinterpret then, because there's too much misleading infos about her now, having played her since release I found her legacu team is still super strong thanks to Shenhe, Kokomi variant is more towards her burst while furina gives her more room for mistakes and Mona variant hits way harder than Furina ones. While this is good way to free Furina for the other team imo, overall If for Ayaka mains Shenhe is a much better investment as she allows Ayaka to go [Mono Cryo] against unfreezable opponents, as some may think investing c2 furina for Ayaka or Shenhe, If just for Ayaka there's not much contest here but in general C2 Furina will make more sense.
IDK, how big my opinion matters 😅, but yeah man... I admit Furina is actually better than all the charactere now... For example : she buffed the damage so high that its hard for the enemy boss to stay their for long. I used to killed #Azdaha in a minute.....but when i put furina in team ...I killed Azdaha, Childe, raiden shogun ...within 18 second. To the current scenerio ... #Furina is beast...(Awake and act as Archon of the most powerful Element in the Game tho). Yeah man....she is the best.... i dont regret pulling and investing into her.
furina is quite overrated, literally so boring to play and forces you to play with healers etc, plus ngl her buff runs out so quickly and judging her on the basis of abyss isn't very good way to look at things because abyss lately has been a joke
Her buff lasts longer than most offensive buffs, so not sure what you're talking about there. And yeah, she wants healers, but that sort of restriction isn't a new thing. Anemo DPSers want their Faruzan. Pyro, Hydro, Electro, and Cryo DPSers want their Kaz. Itto wants Gorou. Archers want Zhongli or at least a Zhongli-at-home. Xiangling wants her Bennett. With Furina, you at least get to pick from a list of possibles, and ones that have been a bit neglected for too long.
“Podcast” but you don’t show the other guys, not ven a discord call, “I watch them all the time” not even subscribed to them, nor any videos marked as watched, nah fam, sure opinions were fine but that “quality “ was horrible, anyway, good luck
She's the best unit 100%. You just need a shitload of ER investment, certain team wide healers, and deal with a stressful quick swappy playstyle as your health constantly drains just to make her work. "But but! 75% dmg boost!" For like 3-5 seconds with non optimal team comps.. People need to stop the cap smh. Nahida, Kazuha and Zhongli listening to this be like 😬
She’s not stressful if you give her the team wide healer and archons are meant to make the experience smoother in the first place, which she does perfectly for well invested accounts ofc new players will take a while to reach her potential though. Also she doesn’t force you to quick swap, one of her main benefits is that she’s good for hypercarries. Zhongli is garbage compared to her so don’t try sneaking him into the discussion
@@Marz333 Zhongli is so bad, you are so right. All he does is invalidate the majority of enemy attacks by giving you the strongest shield with 100% uptime, petrify enemies for 5 seconds and reduce all elemental resistances by 15% without the need for any other character (unlike Furina). Yup, absolutely, a garbage character. If a new player had an option between Kazuha, Nahida, Zhongli and Furina. Which one would you recommend?
@@wits_end. bro I like Zhongli as well but what you are saying is ridiculous. Like I don’t know else to tell you except skill issue. Also a thing I’m starting to notice with a lot of the “Furina deniers” is that you all will completely ignore thats she is also a sub dps.
@@wits_end. Furina at the moment. She gives them a healer that doesn't care about energy for exploration. She's hydro, which is the most useful element. She can buff mediocre DPS to acceptable levels. She also does pretty good damage. With how she enables the hunter set, pretty much any new DPS character they get will be instantly ready. And long term, she'll retain value. After that, it would depend on the types of teams they like to play between Nahida and Kaz. Then the other of those. Zhongli might pop up earlier only if they want to play certain characters, like Yoimiya or Lyney, but other than that, he's 4th on the list.
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To me one of Furinas best teams is Kokomi Taser... Kokomi makes surebthe team has max stacks and you can build Raiden or Fiachl for Damage along with Kazuha...theres plenty of particle generation, healing and Damage especially when youre playing like against like 3-4 enemies at a time
I initially thought furuna was just a buffer and considered her e (still leveled up her e) useless but when i saw a 40k hydro damage on my screen (solo hydro) i was like "wait a minute"
And I thought the other way I was like buffs are cool but damage is better. Well might be because I got her signature weapon and some good artifacts. But her damage is pretty dope. You can just put raiden and furina together and then watch the overworld get burned to nothing just by walking.
She is a great edition in my exploration team, she obliterates any overworld enemies in a matter of seconds without doing anything because of her skill and she can infinitely walk on water. Also because of her wide range basic attack, it is soo much easier to collect wood while being protected by your skill if there's any hidden enemies.
My best Abyss was 33. Played since 1.x. Got Furina and 36 star no problem WITH NOELLE! Got her to buff Noelle. She is nutz. Furina+Ben+Noelle+Yelan
?? Why bennett? Bennett is only buffing Noelle on this team because yelan and furina dont care about attack. Replace Bennett with gorou for double geo resonance and DEF buffing
@polychromaa
"Bennett is only buffing Noelle"
Well, given that she is being used as the on field DPS/driver, that doesn't sound too bad... We don't know if they have a built Gorou.
You've been playing since 1.8 (at least) and the most you've gotten was 33 stars? There were definitely abyss rotations that fit extremely well with Raiden, Nahida, Hyperbloom, or National.
Even as full F2P, I've been able to 36-star the abyss every time after 1.5 years. Did you take a long break or something?
@@jyashin , I don't use reactions and my artifacts aren't the best.
@@jyashin I tend to build and play supports instead of DPS characters, I don't pull or use many male characters, my artifacts are not that good, I don't use reactions because I use freeze, geo and physical instead.
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Furina + any characters that can use mare hunter set + healer = insane
25:00 "Unconsolidates a Role" XD That's such a Great way to explain it.
I like to say she takes 1.5 team slots.
10:18 jamiekb9v has a video showing CN speedrunners using Furina's healing mode to get 2 extra healing ticks during her Burst animation.
Charge Atk > E > Q > Charge Atk
Tl;dr shes the best unit in the game
Yes
Kazuha
Kazuha is better he isn't limited to non-hydro enemies
@@traincore1955☠️
@@RikuGenshinNot even top 3
15:07 Honestly I can see Cyno's issues being fixed, if we get a really good electro healer, because the reason why Cyno needs to be on field for a long time, is for recharging his burst, so having an electro battery will allow you charge his burst faster and swap early to Nahida to refresh her skill, if you need to.
Or a dendro Yelan. That would free up Nahida for another team.
She's definitely the best designed char so far. She give massive buff but unlike Bennet who just need stack ATK and ER (very linear), you must be more proactive with your build, teammates and rotation.
She encourage us to learn more about how to use her the right way and that's very rewarding experience. Burst bot? She can do it. Of field DPS. Got it. Main DPS? Well need more investment but she can do it.
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May not be the best character.. but definitely the best support buffer in the game.. she singlehandedly revives all "dead" characters.. and with her off field damage and team damage buff, she can carry weak characters like Dehya..
She is especially powerful because she enables the M-hunter set on all teammates. It's cracked af. Even mid artifacts can be put to good use.
Yes after all these circling around and pretending she revived dead characters the theorycrafting went back to Bennet and what do you know not max stacking fanfare doesn't matter because Bennet buffs so much that it's way stronger than any teamwide healer.
@@thebrigade7684 and here is a funny thing people dont play the game to max out damage or optimally coz thats not what the game is made for, more damage is good but having fun is the best. i for one use furina everywhere i can. and guess what furina can 36 star the abyss so the argument she is not crazy strong is already in the trash. and abyss is the only place where you actually care about the buffs. if you are caring about fanfare outside of abyss. man something is wrong these overworld die in a single shot from the crab summon. literally from a single shot.
and as for bennet the best place to use bennet is with xiangling, xinque and kazhua. now if you want to keep playing the same old team do it who cares but i dont understand this, who do you care is she is better than bennet or any other character, like seriously why do you care as long as she is not a half baked disfunctional character that doesn't help you in any way.
sounds like the best character to me
I do sometimes use Furina Healing in Combo with Bennett Healing to speed up her stack build up as I rotate through my other units. It feels ok.
Fantastic podcast, thank you. I’m already subscribed to TGS, he’s great. Thanks for introducing me to Flip, going to check his videos out too.
love your content, huge respect for editing the podcast instead of doing minimal editing like most content creators
E before Q for Yelan is for energy funneling to ensure her Q gets her hydro particles
You can open and close the map to funnel particles immediately, I think.
@@givemeaworkingname u can but most people dont want to do that/know about it.
@@givemeaworkingnameyou can do this?!!!
This was a great idea!! So much fun to listen to.
3 of my favorite creators are in a collab ^.^ I always liked Jello for the great videos he makes but also because he introduced TGS to his viewers in one of his videos. It's all because of him I discovered TGS. And for Flip, I don't know how I discovered him but I've been watching all of his videos since the day I've found him and I especially love his Genshin Courts. Can't wait to see more! ^.^
Furina healing mode is broken in co-op domains, there's something for you.
Interesting
The Heal amount being insane is one thing but the range is what is amazing, I love kokomi in coop but getting people to stand near enough to it is pain while furinas is basically a nahida dome. And thats not talking about the 30 sec up time lol
@@satoutakamachi7186 Bruh Kokomi's burst healing doesn't have a range
@@someonesomewhere8658 I know, but you would be amazed at peoples ability to take too much damage in the 8 seconds or so downtime. I'm not saying kokomi isn't good (she's amazing in coop with onfield damage+healing+hydro ap) but furina's heal is braindead easy and completely constant.
And worth noting this applies to non-co-op as well. For a new player, that they can just plop down this healing, have it up 100% of the time, and it cover them anywhere in a domain, without caring about energy... Sure, not a consideration for us, but a very nice QoL addition for a new player, whose other options are Barbara (uptime, energy, and wet issues) or Noelle (energy issues, wants field time, needs gearing, a character that should not be on the novice banner).
And for those of us more geared, it is nice in the Wanderer weekly, during the shield breaking part, and can be used to get some healing in during various boss stage changes during which we can't damage them.
Furinas healing mode does have a use. You do charge attack > E>Q > Charge attack at the beginning of the rotation and it gives 2 extra healing ticks for furina which helps your team get max stacks faster than doing E>Q. Chinese speedrunners have been using it on teams with single target healers and it helps ALOT.
This is the perfect trifecta! Thank you for this! I can’t wait for more episodes
I still believe that she’s the best Character in the Game. Being her the best character is existed; as far as I see; because the best DPS in the game is existed, and he’s Neuvillette; so there’s a chance of the existence of the best support in the game; also. And it’s Furina. She’s literally Neuvillette if he was a support-roled character. Her being able to do so much damage, even higher than Yelan in solo Hydro teams, and a lot higher damage than Xingqiu, especially in AoE; while giving 75% damage% to her teammates, and work with even the non-normal attack characters, while her skill is on 30s duration; to decrease the HP% of her teammates, after they got healed; so their HP% will be under 50%; so they will be very ready to get healed; to get the maximum amount of Fanfare stacks; in the next combo. And she also make the Maru Hunter Artifact, which’s a broken set; viable to all characters. While will make her the best character in the game; in my opinion…
Cyno could be fixed with one tiny change, letting his burst stay while he swaps out. Boom. Nahida, VV/Kazuha, and Fischl can be reset during his burst if needed. It would feel like a quick swap team just fluidly resetting his burst and his buffs during the windows between his endseers.
Furina
- Hydro : arguably best and most flexible element
- unlimited off field time
- walk on water
- high personal DPS
- apply decent hydro
- buffed literally everyone esp. with M. Hunter artf
- makes heal all become useful buff (increase team survival while adding more dps)
- all at C0
Yeah. I dont see anyone can outdone what Furina does in foreseeable future.
11:10 Had to throw in the "and she's hot" 😂
In the past 1-2 months we've gone from having no tc podcasts to having three. I'm loving it
On the subject of cryo with Wanderer, I always used Diona. Her and Faruzan spread it around then I reliably get the crit stat.
Pneuma form from furina can decrease the res of coppelia at 12-3. Altho very short but can be a good optimization for your rotation if you have time
Omg is that FlipGenshin from the Flipside?!?!?!! TGS and Jello too omg?!?!
My favs genshin creators collabing in a podcast? Truly the dream
Key furina made my wrio c1 ditch 1.57m dpr per rotation with bennett and xiangling. Key changes so much for that vapemelt team with wrio being the major melt dps. She's a godsend for my beloved wrio, definitely worth it.
As F2P, getting her signature weapon is heaven sent. Although I lost to Skyward bow, I got Furina's sword in just 3 draws after losing the 50-50.
MY THREE FAVORITE GENSHIN CHANNELS ON A PODCAST ARE YOU JOKING
My gut feeling is that we're going to see the highest hp totals in the Abyss by a decent margin very soon, due to Furina. Her impact on the median damage is that impactful, and especially if the quantity of C2+ Furina havers is decent. Which is going to suck for those that skipped her and weren't comfortably clearing the Abyss currently.
The only two teams I consider switching to healer Furina in is Lyney and Wriothesley teams. More so Lyney because you can run three pyros, get his stacks easily and not worry about anything removing the aura
Oh boy my F2P Yelan: C1 with Aqva with C0 Furina (key) with C6 Fischl and of course Jean is my new strongest single Target team (but kill fast also in AOE one enemy by one) is my fav team with Furina and Yelan as Dps (Or less better team with Raiden) And honestly I don't have any ER sands on anyone or ER weapons and I don't have any problems
4:08 Furina helped me to push out every single 4 star in my teams I removed reliance on kazuha for god sakes.
This abyss I ran Raiden furina sara and jean and hutao yelan mona and zhongli.
Can't believe 3 of my Favorite CC are in a podcast
My favorite theorycrafter, TGS! Please do more characters
At C2+ the podcast wouldn't last 10 secs as there's not even a discussion, she becomes the absolutely best character in the game by VERY far, 100% bonus dmg or 124% at C3 which you get stupid easy not even requiring a healer as even a Prototype Amber maxes her stacks or even with a single target healer like Bennet you can max her 140% extra hp from C2 that provides her lots of extra pets dmg and of course at C6 she becomes one of the best DPSs with 6 hydro hits for 200-250k each or 3+ vapes of 600-800k each.
A C2 Nahida is about the exact same % of team damage increase as furina is at C2. Yet it seems like everyone is loosing their minds on this I guess being new means you are the best ?
@@thebrigade7684As a C2 Nahida owner she's only for dendro teams, even more niche at C2 and her value compared other dendro units depends on what's the team.
That being said she's obviously amongst the best supports and as a F2P she's one of the only 3 characters I bothered to have at C2+
@@thebrigade7684 Furina C2 opens up even more teams while the contribution is similar to Nahida's. Also, C1 Furina >>> C1 Nahida, so you gain more relative power by getting 2 extra cons for Furina than Nahida. As an add-on bonus, Furina has better cons after C2 as well, so if you even remotely consider more cons on rerun...
@@Yanaro-pi8pt Furina C6 yeah sure you can ignore any upcoming healers if you get it yes. C4? 5 energy every 5 seconds is not "noticeably' better than 120-160 EM so you'll either stop C0 or C2 or C6. Though you have to really love her to go that far
It's hilarious, but c6 Baizhu fixes Cyno and always has. Which makes Furina on his team incredibly strong
i thought it was c2 baizhu.
I don't know if I'm using Furina wrong but she seems to wipe my team more than any enemies I encounter. I don't like the drain hitpoint mechanic. And yes, I run her with a healer (Jean usually) and she can't keep up. Jean is under geared a bit but in fights where I take 50% damage from a boss and Furina furnishes the other 50% I'm having to res alot.
21:18 so that she catches her own particles and needs less wnergy
Three of my favorite Genshin people in the same call!
My current favorite team is Ayato/Kazuha/Furina/Jean I call "Purifying Water" because of the constant hydro application which is enough to override pyro aura on Abyss Lector and cleanse while providing attack speed
i farked up BIGGLY for not getting her. I even love to use Noelle, why am I such a dumbass! yes I am saving primos for Clorinde.
characters I still want NAHIDA , Raiden, and now Furina
C1 Yelan w/ fav + Furina has no energy issues w/o ER sands. I try Wrio as the main dps with Charlotte healer but I usually end up with Yelan as the main. Wrio is great when his skill is up but it drains his hp too fast. His C1 is much appreciated to main him w/ furina. Ayaka would be better but I mean, Raiden. So maybe her next banner lol.
Have you ever used mono hydro. Like only hydro. Kokomi, yelan , xq, and furina. It's pretty fun and no er issue ever. It's just burst after burst after burst and You can always add another element like electro or anemo grouper according to your needs.
does the #1 in the title indicate that there will be more of these?
yes?
i love how he updates his other youtube videos 😅
So I think furina is a very good unit. But imo genshin isn’t about meta u don’t need to play meta to beat every aspect of the game so what does that mean? It means meta’s value just isn’t as important and you can consider other factors such as do u like the character? Are they fun to play? I think nahida is hands down the best unit in the game even though I dislike how she looks she enables more teams and more diversity in teams. She makes the game more fun to play dendro based teams and I really do not like nahidas looks cannot stress that enough but she does make the game more fun and enjoyable and imo that’s the most important aspect of genshin cause it is just a fun game not endgame focused. Also I think furina feels pretty bad to use for newer players and that’s something to consider while nahida early on I think is no question the best unit in the game.
Sorry for the unintended flex, but my C6 Furina (213 pulls total--my first and only limited 5 star!) doesn't use a team. Her best team comp is two empty slots and a fourth slot with, I dunno, a fire bow user for overworld puzzles? Just stupidly strong at >10 talents.
There is no way you got C6 in only 200 pulls what, that's a Furina every 28 pulls????? Damn congrats.
213???? Wtf there's people that can get c1 with that if they're lucky, congrats
@@Dafydd4Yeah I call bs 😂
@@MO-zk8qs I have screenshots. Two Furina doubles in ten-pulls, no 50/50 losses, and every one of them was early. I didn't know what was happening.
@@georgemacdonald8667I wish I also get your luck on her next rerun. I have been saving for her cons
IM EARLY ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO THIS
My brothers, you haven’t talked about how she’s viable to every Pyro character in the game, not like the others; without mentioning names…
Hahahahahahaha. ❤️
how to play furina teams without a healer i dont really get that T-T
Furina is the best unit at C2 other units have higher spikes on other constellation levels
furina, raiden, nahida, bennet, kazuha...the best unit on genshin
She's good but not that broken, we are talking about C0
genshin scientist is kinda bad at expressing himself or the point he's making but i somewhat understand him in a way
It's not easiest thing to convey complicated thoughts quickly in a live discussion using language that's not your native one.
@@radcat4317 that's true
Yeah he also addressed this issue by saying he's way smarter in Italian
nice update dude
I feel like you didn’t even answer most of the questions.
The hyperbloom question for example literally didn’t get touched on after like one sentence.
Double hydro strong is too vague. Does that not include some HB teams? Is it just better for baby accounts?
Fair honestly. That probably shouldn’t be in the title
Mika I love you
This is wrong regard Furina Charlotte and Ayaka, refer to Jamiekb9v for ayaka meta, details analysis of why its not so much better, takes from a real TC, guide writer for KQM and competitive speedrunner. Well at least half of the takes here I can agree and not all wrong, but overall half of it was abit misleading.
It’s not that I think it’s better. I don’t. I think it’s a nice alternative option for people who don’t invest into her premium team and it’s a nice alternative option.
@JelloImpact ah forgive me, if I misinterpret then, because there's too much misleading infos about her now, having played her since release I found her legacu team is still super strong thanks to Shenhe, Kokomi variant is more towards her burst while furina gives her more room for mistakes and Mona variant hits way harder than Furina ones. While this is good way to free Furina for the other team imo, overall If for Ayaka mains Shenhe is a much better investment as she allows Ayaka to go [Mono Cryo] against unfreezable opponents, as some may think investing c2 furina for Ayaka or Shenhe, If just for Ayaka there's not much contest here but in general C2 Furina will make more sense.
Yeah exactly
Second? Probably
Bringing a declared simp to a discussion about doesn't really help its credibility. Every Flip's praise has to be divided by 10, at least.
20*
I'm already get bored with Furina and Neuvilette popularity tbh, especially in co op is full of them right now.
I’ll never get sick of furina on co-op teams but nuvi’s getting boring yeah
Furina is the reason your damage is good in coop💀
Let's go
IDK, how big my opinion matters 😅, but yeah man... I admit Furina is actually better than all the charactere now...
For example : she buffed the damage so high that its hard for the enemy boss to stay their for long.
I used to killed #Azdaha in a minute.....but when i put furina in team ...I killed Azdaha, Childe, raiden shogun ...within 18 second.
To the current scenerio ... #Furina is beast...(Awake and act as Archon of the most powerful Element in the Game tho).
Yeah man....she is the best.... i dont regret pulling and investing into her.
Raiden guide when
¡Shh, empezó mi novela! Lessgo new vidd
Not me 😅
imo yelan/shogun/kazuha/nahida way better
FIRST
i've seen you here before
@@JelloImpactyeah I'm subscribed to you and watch your videos. (My goal is to join a podcast with you when I grow my channel)
Last!?
Well, to me she is "worst character ever".
furina is quite overrated, literally so boring to play and forces you to play with healers etc, plus ngl her buff runs out so quickly and judging her on the basis of abyss isn't very good way to look at things because abyss lately has been a joke
Her buff lasts longer than most offensive buffs, so not sure what you're talking about there. And yeah, she wants healers, but that sort of restriction isn't a new thing. Anemo DPSers want their Faruzan. Pyro, Hydro, Electro, and Cryo DPSers want their Kaz. Itto wants Gorou. Archers want Zhongli or at least a Zhongli-at-home. Xiangling wants her Bennett. With Furina, you at least get to pick from a list of possibles, and ones that have been a bit neglected for too long.
She's overrated there's no denying that but what you're basically saying is underselling her.
Do you ever play with female gamers
“Podcast” but you don’t show the other guys, not ven a discord call, “I watch them all the time” not even subscribed to them, nor any videos marked as watched, nah fam, sure opinions were fine but that “quality “ was horrible, anyway, good luck
They didn’t want to be on video. You can harass them ;)
I don’t watch content on my official channel so I’m not subscribed to anyone on here
You’re weird
She's the best unit 100%.
You just need a shitload of ER investment, certain team wide healers, and deal with a stressful quick swappy playstyle as your health constantly drains just to make her work.
"But but! 75% dmg boost!" For like 3-5 seconds with non optimal team comps..
People need to stop the cap smh. Nahida, Kazuha and Zhongli listening to this be like 😬
She’s not stressful if you give her the team wide healer and archons are meant to make the experience smoother in the first place, which she does perfectly for well invested accounts ofc new players will take a while to reach her potential though. Also she doesn’t force you to quick swap, one of her main benefits is that she’s good for hypercarries. Zhongli is garbage compared to her so don’t try sneaking him into the discussion
@@Marz333 Zhongli is so bad, you are so right. All he does is invalidate the majority of enemy attacks by giving you the strongest shield with 100% uptime, petrify enemies for 5 seconds and reduce all elemental resistances by 15% without the need for any other character (unlike Furina). Yup, absolutely, a garbage character.
If a new player had an option between Kazuha, Nahida, Zhongli and Furina. Which one would you recommend?
this genuinely sounds like a skill issue
@@wits_end. bro I like Zhongli as well but what you are saying is ridiculous. Like I don’t know else to tell you except skill issue. Also a thing I’m starting to notice with a lot of the “Furina deniers” is that you all will completely ignore thats she is also a sub dps.
@@wits_end. Furina at the moment. She gives them a healer that doesn't care about energy for exploration. She's hydro, which is the most useful element. She can buff mediocre DPS to acceptable levels. She also does pretty good damage. With how she enables the hunter set, pretty much any new DPS character they get will be instantly ready. And long term, she'll retain value.
After that, it would depend on the types of teams they like to play between Nahida and Kaz. Then the other of those. Zhongli might pop up earlier only if they want to play certain characters, like Yoimiya or Lyney, but other than that, he's 4th on the list.
Disliked because flips in this
He’s still has valid points what’s the difference with or without him💀
Why?
I don’t like flip either but this is jello’s vid?