As a NZer!, (and a female too it must be said!) Of all the rugby podcasts and channels I watch, The Bok Office stands out as the best. Of course I enjoyed this episode, with the in-depth discussion about our team, and you are right --- England lost that match due to their top 2 inches rather than us defeating them convincingly. But what elevates The Bok Office in my opinion, is the caliber of its hosts. Their intelligence, fairness, and respectfulness make for insightful discussions, one of the many reasons why we respect and hold South Africa in such high regard. Wishing the Springboks the best of luck in the North. Up the Southern Hemisphere! 🖤🤍💚💛
They also seem to have so much fun! Very light hearted and great banter. Most other sports and podcasts are so serious and judgemental but this is good old fashioned fun!
These guys show way more respect to us (NZ/All Blacks) than our commentators like Jeff Wilson and JK. This has to be one of the best podcasts about rugby.
JdV is a master ‘manager’ of these discussions; good touches & one can see why he was such an incredible skipper of the Boks. Nice to see the respect shown for other countries & their players.
Great episode again boys. Can listen to Boks talk rugby allday..... such respect between our great countries and our rugby. South Africa honestly have the best shows about rugby and the best Commentary supportimg the Boks from NZ All Black everything UP THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE 🇳🇿🇦🇷🇿🇦🇦🇺
Best analysis Ive have seen. Three absolute legends who know what they are talking about. Refreshing. Get tired of the youtubers who have so much to say about nothing because they never made a first 15. I like that SB is wearing black!
Irish fan.. I've only seen clips of Nick Mallet doing punditry, never noticed how gigantic he is, imagine making Schalk look normal sized. Hands like shovels! I like these 3, no ego, its just like listening to guys chatting rugby down the pub for hours.
Excellent episode. Strong considered opinions make for good Boks Office eps. As much as I like current players joining, they just don’t weigh in strongly enough on the issues/conversations because they’re players not pundits. The back and forth between Nick and Schalla is what we need!!
Well done Nic, you’ve enhanced an already great show, but specifically for mentioning Franco Smith’s role as DOR in Italy for what has become a very competitive international side. He received almost no recognition for that, but just look at what he’s achieved in just two years with Glasgow Warriors: two years, two Finals. Lost the 2023 EPCR, won the 2024 URC. He’s proper! 🙌
Damn. Mallet, you broke many Natal boys hearts when you dropped Gary for the RWC1999. Hearing you say, it was a regret in that world cup. Massive respect.
England fan but love listening to these guys and their opinion of the games, i think they're on a whole very accurate. I didn't go to the game this time i had no idea tickets were £160. Even sadder than this was the fact that the game wasn't even available on free tv. A ENGLAND game at HOME you would expect it to be free and available to everybody at home to watch they put the game was behind a paywall. It wasn't even on Sky Sports, which is a popular channel in the UK because they have alot of live sports available, it costs £34.99 but you get some value for money because you can watch rugby, football, f1, golf and other sports. But this England game they didn't even show on Sky Sports, they put it on another channel called TNT Sports which is £30.99 a month... really pathetic. I don't know who's idea it is but it's very wrong. They sell out our stadium to a German insurance company Allianz which is suppose to benefit England then put the games behind a pay pall.
@@Stormer-Europa Not exactly sure what the government has to do with my comment but all of the West have been suffering with high cost of living and higher taxes, it's not just our government. Even countries away from Europe like America and Austalia.. most of europe all have inflation and high taxes.
Great show lads and Nick Mallett was a fantastic guest. A weekend of rugby to savour kicking off with Ireland v ABs - this will be really close but Ireland probably favourites to reinforce their 1 ranking.Strong squad plus experienced coaching team just gives them the edge imho. As for Boks v Scotland it will be a match which SA power and physicality will give them the platform for success. As a Scot I just look at the Bok forwards with huge envy - the strength in depth is amazing and now they have added some attacking flair they are an even more dangerous side. We have not had a forward pack which other nations fear for what seems like decades and are therefore doomed to struggle against the top teams . So probable wins for all home nations bar Scotland
Nice to see you boys back, thanks for the great show, don't know what I am going to do until the next internationals. Schalla for coach when Rassie gets tired ??
Nick Mallett’s understanding of the inner workings of rugby never ceases to amaze me. I would love to see what he could do as a coach for Sharks or Lions. I feel like we are missing out having him confined to commentary. Would love to see him on this podcast again, maybe with Jake White. Mind blowing expertise.
Thanks for the show gents. ✌️😎 It literally feels like I'm hanging with the boys. 🍻 In other news, 🗞️ Nick better coach the Barbarians 🐑 or Boks 🇿🇦 for one final swansong OR ELSE we're all going to protest Biltong. 😂🤣😂
Love Nick Mallet! Also, I do like the Haka. I just think both teams need to treat the situation with respect. We want New Zealand to come over to Ellis Park and do the Haka for example. But its also a privilege for them that they are allowed to do it on international land. The crowd should be allowed to sing as loud as they want and get behind their own team. We don't need NZ to come over and be too comfortable. I also enjoy it when teams challenge it respectfully as England have done a couple of times. Makes for a great spectacle.
was at WC final 95, and cardiff .... best interview/chat i've seen for years!!!!!! so good to listen to! ... and none of u were at ellis park? or were you, ou oom nick?:)
The 20min red is a crock. Schalk is right - the issue is that the red threshold is too low. Keep the red as it is and stop handing it out for non-malicious mistakes. That way the really naughty boys get properly punished, and the game benefits from less reds
You 100%right the problem with the English is that when they win small battles they go on like they won the game but then forget to make the right decisions in game planning.
Sadly I don’t go to games much to my sadness, simply not affordable anymore. £160 a ticket turns into much more after travel, food and dop. I can subscribe, have biltong, flings, dop and all sorts for a quarter of the price with my whole family - and it’s warm in my lounge
Nick Mallett did get fired for his comments on Ticket Prices - I have it on good authority. I'll never forget that - The 2003 Bok team would've been much more competitive had he stayed on.
Curious on your thoughts when a red card tackle takes your number 1 try scorer out of the game with a concussion rule… 20 minutes later they have 15 players, maybe 6 points down. Arguably a net gain for an opponent if you’ve lost a Cheslin.
I don’t think they lack the quality. They just lack the right head coach. He’s too conservative like most England managers in all sports. It’s a let’s not lose mentality rather than let’s go a win.
Likely because they are too honest like Kevin PIeterson was in cricket and the English Management would have to hear things they don't want to hear. The SA culture in that respect does not quite match the English culture where you have to watch what you say and be passive aggressive to a degree.
@@bunnychowmuncher the difference between success and failure. Legacy or infamy. This is what separates the Springboks with the All Blacks next to them vs the world, straight dominating every format of the game and tournament. The wannabee's argue about "We the new rivals, move over". Precious.
@sandorclegane3658 I commend Ireland and give them full credit for what they have achieved in the last 20 yrs but yes I agree with you. To expect two incumbents to stand aside and assume the podium is odd. It's like us taking up GAA and having success and telling them to stand aside when they've been doung it for a century. I welcome them to the party but no need to be cocky.
All Blacks need to be 110% for the Irish gents, we all know AB's can do it, but not like they played this 2024, to many errors, cards ext. We need to respect this Irish side. They well drilled and well coached even with old Mike Catt there.
If wr says a player cant go head first, like props do in the red zone, the game is over as it is. The whole reasons of head first is to get low gravety to make more meters. This has been happening since dawn of rugby, go watch 95' wc and you'll see this. Players purposely do this cause they know it will be harder for opposition to properly stop them and their momentum. Damian D.A does this tactic when going for a crash ball to make more meters. WR honestly needs to calm down, all the new changes has given us a nice fast spectacle now. But you cant take the physicality out of rugby, you'll never see this in boxing, yet they hit the shitw out of one another. Rugby is a contact sport just accept it.
Kiwi here. England should’ve won. Plain and simple 😂 AB’s set piece was horrible most of the game. Handling atrocious. Penalties everywhere.. but, the AB’s were bailed out yet again by their undeniable attacking prowess.
😂😂😂 England only played for 3 points,they had no idea how to attack New Zealand in their own half, instead of kicking for corner for a line out and driving maul for 7points,they instead opted the easy route and took easy points
Regarding the red card everyone talks about the 20 min no one acknowledges that the player doesn’t play and the impact that has on the bench. It still penalises the team. But at least now the game is a little more competitive.
Taylor Swift was £300-£600 FYI I though £160 for an England vs New Zealand international was reasonable. Tickets are usually £350+ at Twickers. Would be nice to see England play at different venues for once, to spread the game. If the RFU/Twickers issue tickets at £80, ticket touts/online sellers like TicketMaster always price gouge and charge double or more.
It depends , if you mean do England have the quality in players to beat NZ & SA yes absolutely, if you mean the quality in coaching than absolutely not.
England were doing real fine till borthdick benched Marco smith. The ABs looked flat footed and clueless in the last section and England were in ascendancy. Hopefully Ireland will give them a blood nose.
Guys, I have a question, if its all about player safety and the tackler has the responsibility to avoid head contact, why is there no responsibility on the ball carrier to avoid head contact? So many times theres head contact due to the ball carrier changing levels or direction last second thus making it dangerous for the tackler? Now in saying that, I do no want MORE red cards by officiating that, but surely if player safety is the issue, it should be reffed both ways?
As a NZer!, (and a female too it must be said!) Of all the rugby podcasts and channels I watch, The Bok Office stands out as the best. Of course I enjoyed this episode, with the in-depth discussion about our team, and you are right --- England lost that match due to their top 2 inches rather than us defeating them convincingly.
But what elevates The Bok Office in my opinion, is the caliber of its hosts. Their intelligence, fairness, and respectfulness make for insightful discussions, one of the many reasons why we respect and hold South Africa in such high regard.
Wishing the Springboks the best of luck in the North.
Up the Southern Hemisphere! 🖤🤍💚💛
Always unbiased in their assessment. Other podcasts can learn a thing or two.
I love the ABs. Good Luck against the Irish.
Well said!
Hear hear!
They also seem to have so much fun! Very light hearted and great banter. Most other sports and podcasts are so serious and judgemental but this is good old fashioned fun!
Nick is great value. Get him on the show more often!
These guys show way more respect to us (NZ/All Blacks) than our commentators like Jeff Wilson and JK. This has to be one of the best podcasts about rugby.
Schalla better be doing some coaching on the side. His game analysis and game knowledge, it's top tier.
As a New Zealander, I love watching these shows, Massive up to you all from Gold Coast Australia
Scallas rugby knowledge is astounding, the names the plays and his memory of games past is just brilliant.
JdV is a master ‘manager’ of these discussions; good touches & one can see why he was such an incredible skipper of the Boks.
Nice to see the respect shown for other countries & their players.
Schalk is an unbelievable intelligent commentator. Just love listening to these guys. I love the lack of ego's - which destroys the kiwi shows...
Nick is an absolute LEGEND!!! We're lucky to have him in South African Rugby circles.
Ohhhh, awesome to see Nick. He has so much to offer on these discussions and analysis. Great rugby man!
Tactically this show is a master class, the knowledge and insights just flow, no bashing anyone....just world class Manne.
WE NEED NICK ON BOKS OFFICE AND THE VERDICT , PLEASE!!!!
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Great episode again boys. Can listen to Boks talk rugby allday..... such respect between our great countries and our rugby. South Africa honestly have the best shows about rugby and the best Commentary supportimg the Boks from NZ All Black everything UP THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE 🇳🇿🇦🇷🇿🇦🇦🇺
We miss Shimmie🇿🇦❤
But glad to see Mr. Swing the ball around💪
Loved seeing Nick Mallet there. Such a legend!! Would like to see him more on the show.
Lovely to see the banter between these three. All legends on and off the field.
Never clicked so fast, welcome back boys!
Welcome back!
Best analysis Ive have seen. Three absolute legends who know what they are talking about. Refreshing. Get tired of the youtubers who have so much to say about nothing because they never made a first 15. I like that SB is wearing black!
Irish fan..
I've only seen clips of Nick Mallet doing punditry, never noticed how gigantic he is, imagine making Schalk look normal sized. Hands like shovels!
I like these 3, no ego, its just like listening to guys chatting rugby down the pub for hours.
Great having the 3. Missed Shimmy really enjoy hin.
Good to see you Nick, great chat as always!! Miss Shimmi though!! Go Bokke!!
I missed the show. Great to have you guys back. One of the best rugby pods around.💯
Excellent episode. Strong considered opinions make for good Boks Office eps. As much as I like current players joining, they just don’t weigh in strongly enough on the issues/conversations because they’re players not pundits. The back and forth between Nick and Schalla is what we need!!
Best show to date!!! Loved the questions from Jean and the interaction, analysis and story telling by all 3!!!
First time viewer, fantastic. Loved all the hosts, so natural and great balanced opinions
Nick is pure class. Keep him on the show.
Thoroughly enjoy listening to a gentleman like Nick Mallet.
Welcome back guys. I really missed this show.
Well done Nic, you’ve enhanced an already great show, but specifically for mentioning Franco Smith’s role as DOR in Italy for what has become a very competitive international side. He received almost no recognition for that, but just look at what he’s achieved in just two years with Glasgow Warriors: two years, two Finals. Lost the 2023 EPCR, won the 2024 URC. He’s proper! 🙌
Damn. Mallet, you broke many Natal boys hearts when you dropped Gary for the RWC1999. Hearing you say, it was a regret in that world cup. Massive respect.
As a passionate banana boy, I was super pissed off. Remember the shirts that said F#@k Mallet that followed.
England fan but love listening to these guys and their opinion of the games, i think they're on a whole very accurate. I didn't go to the game this time i had no idea tickets were £160. Even sadder than this was the fact that the game wasn't even available on free tv. A ENGLAND game at HOME you would expect it to be free and available to everybody at home to watch they put the game was behind a paywall.
It wasn't even on Sky Sports, which is a popular channel in the UK because they have alot of live sports available, it costs £34.99 but you get some value for money because you can watch rugby, football, f1, golf and other sports. But this England game they didn't even show on Sky Sports, they put it on another channel called TNT Sports which is £30.99 a month... really pathetic. I don't know who's idea it is but it's very wrong. They sell out our stadium to a German insurance company Allianz which is suppose to benefit England then put the games behind a pay pall.
dude you have a gov, left and right, driving mad inflation and taxes. Nasty.
@@Stormer-Europa Not exactly sure what the government has to do with my comment but all of the West have been suffering with high cost of living and higher taxes, it's not just our government. Even countries away from Europe like America and Austalia.. most of europe all have inflation and high taxes.
"It will always be Twickenham to us"!
Understand your frustration have the same problem here in SA, any international game is only covered by multichoice, R 1000,00 per month.
Agree fully
Outstanding podcast 👏 great insights. What a pleasure.
Great show lads and Nick Mallett was a fantastic guest. A weekend of rugby to savour kicking off with Ireland v ABs - this will be really close but Ireland probably favourites to reinforce their 1 ranking.Strong squad plus experienced coaching team just gives them the edge imho. As for Boks v Scotland it will be a match which SA power and physicality will give them the platform for success. As a Scot I just look at the Bok forwards with huge envy - the strength in depth is amazing and now they have added some attacking flair they are an even more dangerous side. We have not had a forward pack which other nations fear for what seems like decades and are therefore doomed to struggle against the top teams . So probable wins for all home nations bar Scotland
I liked the referee telling the players that not all head contact is foul play. Spot on!
Loved the show - brilliant as always, Nick adds a nice dimension
Three of my favourite rugby Pundits.
Jean did well to redirect Nick when he was going down the SA ticket prices debate.
Welcome back guys. Top Tier entertainment.
The boys are back!!
Nice to see you boys back, thanks for the great show, don't know what I am going to do until the next internationals. Schalla for coach when Rassie gets tired ??
Nick Mallett’s understanding of the inner workings of rugby never ceases to amaze me. I would love to see what he could do as a coach for Sharks or Lions. I feel like we are missing out having him confined to commentary. Would love to see him on this podcast again, maybe with Jake White. Mind blowing expertise.
Great show and spot on re England. Sad to hear you didn't take the England job back in 2011 or 2016. Would have been great to have you as our coach!
you snooze you loose :))
@@peterwomersley Can't argue with that!
Great show Gents from a Kiwi as
Kia Ora fellas..luv listening to SA views. Great conversation guys!👍😁
Thanks for the show gents. ✌️😎 It literally feels like I'm hanging with the boys. 🍻 In other news, 🗞️ Nick better coach the Barbarians 🐑 or Boks 🇿🇦 for one final swansong OR ELSE we're all going to protest Biltong. 😂🤣😂
Love Nick Mallet! Also, I do like the Haka. I just think both teams need to treat the situation with respect. We want New Zealand to come over to Ellis Park and do the Haka for example. But its also a privilege for them that they are allowed to do it on international land. The crowd should be allowed to sing as loud as they want and get behind their own team. We don't need NZ to come over and be too comfortable. I also enjoy it when teams challenge it respectfully as England have done a couple of times. Makes for a great spectacle.
Such a brilliant show. Well done.
Great conversation 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice to have Nick on!
Great show
Brilliant show
ahh man i missed the Boks office
Excellent
was at WC final 95, and cardiff .... best interview/chat i've seen for years!!!!!! so good to listen to! ... and none of u were at ellis park? or were you, ou oom nick?:)
Make Nick Mallet a permanent member of the Boks office
Massive difference between Nic on SS vs Nic here. He is much more natural here and feeds off the others.
Thanks lads.
Sasha will captain at some stage
Just starting the video... wonder how many times Nick is gonna slap Schalk on the leg
Now its getting on my nerves 😂😂😂
Take a shot every time time Nick hits that beef!
The 20min red is a crock. Schalk is right - the issue is that the red threshold is too low. Keep the red as it is and stop handing it out for non-malicious mistakes. That way the really naughty boys get properly punished, and the game benefits from less reds
You 100%right the problem with the English is that when they win small battles they go on like they won the game but then forget to make the right decisions in game planning.
Always great entertainment!
good show. enjoyed Nick
Thanks.
Great show❤
Guys am I the only noticing the silence of Warren Gatland 🤣🤣🤣.
Sadly I don’t go to games much to my sadness, simply not affordable anymore. £160 a ticket turns into much more after travel, food and dop.
I can subscribe, have biltong, flings, dop and all sorts for a quarter of the price with my whole family - and it’s warm in my lounge
check out the radio commentary its not bad
So too does the 99RWC Bok captain haunt me, Teich should never have been dropped, that team was as bonded as Rassie’s team today.
Nick Mallett did get fired for his comments on Ticket Prices - I have it on good authority. I'll never forget that - The 2003 Bok team would've been much more competitive had he stayed on.
always had a peoblem with authority Super inte;llectual doesnt tollefrate fools lightly
South African love Haka❤❤
Curious on your thoughts when a red card tackle takes your number 1 try scorer out of the game with a concussion rule… 20 minutes later they have 15 players, maybe 6 points down. Arguably a net gain for an opponent if you’ve lost a Cheslin.
I don’t think they lack the quality. They just lack the right head coach. He’s too conservative like most England managers in all sports. It’s a let’s not lose mentality rather than let’s go a win.
England turned down a coaching team of Mallet and Smith... That setup would have taken England deep into the world cup.
Likely because they are too honest like Kevin PIeterson was in cricket and the English Management would have to hear things they don't want to hear. The SA culture in that respect does not quite match the English culture where you have to watch what you say and be passive aggressive to a degree.
@@bunnychowmuncherThe English talk in circles never saying what they mean. Saffas total opposite, direct and crystal clear.
@emfairclough lol yip hence a bad fit.
@@bunnychowmuncher the difference between success and failure. Legacy or infamy. This is what separates the Springboks with the All Blacks next to them vs the world, straight dominating every format of the game and tournament. The wannabee's argue about "We the new rivals, move over". Precious.
@sandorclegane3658 I commend Ireland and give them full credit for what they have achieved in the last 20 yrs but yes I agree with you.
To expect two incumbents to stand aside and assume the podium is odd. It's like us taking up GAA and having success and telling them to stand aside when they've been doung it for a century.
I welcome them to the party but no need to be cocky.
All Blacks need to be 110% for the Irish gents, we all know AB's can do it, but not like they played this 2024, to many errors, cards ext. We need to respect this Irish side. They well drilled and well coached even with old Mike Catt there.
Mike Catt left after the SA tour. It's Goodie's 1st game as attack coach on Sat after leaving leinster 👍
Borthwick parked the bus too early… definitely had a big effect
Lukka, lukka gentlemen 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Legends
If wr says a player cant go head first, like props do in the red zone, the game is over as it is. The whole reasons of head first is to get low gravety to make more meters. This has been happening since dawn of rugby, go watch 95' wc and you'll see this. Players purposely do this cause they know it will be harder for opposition to properly stop them and their momentum. Damian D.A does this tactic when going for a crash ball to make more meters. WR honestly needs to calm down, all the new changes has given us a nice fast spectacle now. But you cant take the physicality out of rugby, you'll never see this in boxing, yet they hit the shitw out of one another. Rugby is a contact sport just accept it.
👏🏻⚡🥃
To quote Heyneke Meyer: "Ballet is a contact sport, rugby is a collision sport."
legends!!!!
Kiwi here. England should’ve won. Plain and simple 😂 AB’s set piece was horrible most of the game. Handling atrocious. Penalties everywhere.. but, the AB’s were bailed out yet again by their undeniable attacking prowess.
😂😂😂 England only played for 3 points,they had no idea how to attack New Zealand in their own half, instead of kicking for corner for a line out and driving maul for 7points,they instead opted the easy route and took easy points
@ exactly. They should’ve won, but they didn’t have the guts to go for 7 instead of 3 😂
@Lesssvav still won mate
@@nm86484 have the attention span to read past the first 2 lines mate
@@Lesssvav still won mate
Schalks Panerai looks pretty good on him.
Yes we do. We’re missing a decent front row, decent 9 and decent 12. We’re okay in some other positions, and excellent in a few
great show thanlks
Jean you are funny😆😆😆
And then Rassie surprised us with a 7/1 split 🎉🎉😂
Could you imagine a book being written on the outings of all rugby players it would be very funny
Up staps! 😁 lovit!
They can't even beat Australia for God's sake 😂😂😂
Rugby tickets were £225 pounds.
❤️❤️❤️
Nick Mallett is right, England need to stop forcing the fire by chest pumping 😂😂😂
Arent they playing Scotland next??
Galavanting - bloody hell - when last I heard that name Jean - lmk
Regarding the red card everyone talks about the 20 min no one acknowledges that the player doesn’t play and the impact that has on the bench. It still penalises the team. But at least now the game is a little more competitive.
In 1995,my ticket for the Nov test Boks vs England cost GBP 20. Exchange rate was 6:1 so ticket cost me R 120. A bargain at the price 😂
Taylor Swift was £300-£600 FYI
I though £160 for an England vs New Zealand international was reasonable. Tickets are usually £350+ at Twickers. Would be nice to see England play at different venues for once, to spread the game. If the RFU/Twickers issue tickets at £80, ticket touts/online sellers like TicketMaster always price gouge and charge double or more.
It depends , if you mean do England have the quality in players to beat NZ & SA yes absolutely, if you mean the quality in coaching than absolutely not.
Quantity in coaching? So they need 50 more coaches?
Yes
The simple answer is England does have the ability to beat the AB's and the Springboks.
England were doing real fine till borthdick benched Marco smith.
The ABs looked flat footed and clueless in the last section and England were in ascendancy. Hopefully Ireland will give them a blood nose.
Guys, I have a question, if its all about player safety and the tackler has the responsibility to avoid head contact, why is there no responsibility on the ball carrier to avoid head contact? So many times theres head contact due to the ball carrier changing levels or direction last second thus making it dangerous for the tackler? Now in saying that, I do no want MORE red cards by officiating that, but surely if player safety is the issue, it should be reffed both ways?
Posted this before they actually talked about this topic. Seems like they sort of agree.