@@jeremyghunter I've read Marx. If his theory was correct, the wages of the ordinary people in the Eastern Bloc would've been higher than in the West. But the opposite was true.
"This effort was made in the same way as the extremely centralised and Jacobin endeavour of Babeuf. I owe it to you to say frankly that, according to my view, this effort to build a communist republic on the basis of a strongly centralised state communism under the iron law of party dictatorship is bound to end in failure. We learn in Russia how communism cannot be introduced” - Petr Kropotkin on the Bolshevik regime in a message to western workers
Oh did you by any chance also come across Petr Kropotkin's speeches in defense of the Provisional Government's policy of continuation of WW I participation ? What a pacifist and true anarchist he was 🤣🤣🤣Sending his fellow countrymen to kill and be killed by their class brothers at the front. You dont even know your idiotic icons
@@renatopereira2315 Kropotkin never claimed to be a pacifist. His position on WW1 was rightly very unpopular in the anarchist movement of his day (which mostly took the correct no war but the class war position). Despite Kroptokin's views on WW1 there remains much of value in his work, including his criticisms of fake, authoritarian 'communism'.
“We must raise the question of applying much of what is scientific and progressive in the Taylor system. The Soviet Republic must at all costs adopt all that is valuable in the achievements of science and technology in this field. We must organise in Russia the study and teaching of the Taylor system.” - Lenin
I would really like to know why Trotsky is well regarded. I'm asking because there are many accounts of him being a narcissist, master of theatrics, fond of conspiracies/intrigues, and 0 qualms about betraying/lying to his collaborators.
On what do you base those claims? What are the "accounts"? On your first question: Trotsky did alot of things that is well regarded, played the key role in the October revolution and the creation of the red army, dedicated his life to defend internationalism and bolshevism. His analysies have been proven correct, while menshevik and later Stalinist ideas such as two-stage theory and socialism in one country has been proven outright reactionary time and time again. Trotsky, Lenin and true Bolsjevism is a tool for marxists today to organize for revolution in all countries and more and more workers, especially young workers, are seeking answers and ideas on how we can fight for socialism. Trotsky, Lenin, Marx or Engels and other important marxists arent well regarded because of their personal squabbles, who outsmarted who, who "won", their personalities etc, but for their ideas, how they correspond with reality and because they are the best source to educate ourselves politically for class action.
@@Tetragrammaton22 Trotsky wrote in the early 1930's as fascism was advancing and gaining ground in Germany. Trotsky clearly spelled out how fascism could have been stopped in Germany. Trotsky proposed a united front between the German SPD party and the German KPD party. The SPD was the Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands. The KPD was the German communist party. Trotsky's idea was that the SPD and the KPD would put aside their differences and join forces in a United Front dedicated to fighting the Nazis. Had Trotsky's ideas been implemented, the Nazis could have been stopped. Trotsky's analysis of the true nature of fascism is unparalleled. Trotsky was writing this at a time when fascism was viewed favorably by millions of Americans and Europeans.
@@Tetragrammaton22 Some “marxists” seem to forget that the practice is the sole criteria for testing truth. They prefer to suppose that if Trotsky would not been taken out of power, he would’ve done all right. At the same time they are denying the merits of Stalin.
Really stupid, in my high school years in Soviet Union, I was studying the same, but at a much deeper level. We're living its history and laughing on soviet propaganda 45 years ago.
"The state as an institution is designed to protect and enforce oppressive class relations, such as that of the bourgeoisie over the proletariat, not erode them. Allowing the state to continue to exist will not assist in dissolving such relations, only in perpetuating them in new and equally destructive forms . Without the state, such classes will be unable to enforce their will on the populous, and thus will not be able to continue their existence." - Nestor Makhno.
“The dictatorship of the proletariat . . . in reality it would be, for the proletariat, a barrack regime where the standardized mass of men and women workers would wake, sleep, work and eat to the beat of a drum ; for the clever and learned a privilege, of governing : and for the mercenary minded attracted by the state bank, a vast field of lucrative jobbery.” - Mikhail Bakunin.
Anarchist let Franco and his fascists win because they couldnt let go of their ideals. Instead of fighting alongside the communists and the left , the anarchists died and led their people to death out of sheer stubbornness.. Maybe if they had adopted Leninism, Spainn would have achieved socialism instead of francoism
@@LAFC. I don't know what you're on about but if I were you I'd stay off the crack pipe. Lenin was a state capitalist tyrant who crushed the working class and had sex workers and other socialists executed. Dora Kaplan did nothing wrong.
@@LAFC. It was the Spanish 'socialist' government and the Stalinists who betrayed the revolution and allowed Franco to win, not the anarchists. As for Leninism, Lenin himself openly admitted that his ideology was not at all socialist but was infact "state capitalism."
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good to see an educated and intellectual perspective on Lenin and the Bolsheviks as opposed to the mainstream politics perspective we normally get.
I was lucky enough to be there and ask a question, which he responded to thoroughly! A great talk from comrade Rob as usual.
Please be aware that a lot of Marxism just isn't correct; especially the notion that profit is made by underpaying wages.
@@lochnessmunster1189 sure ok pal
@@jeremyghunter Where do you think profit is derived from?
@@lochnessmunster1189 read a book. I'm not debating you debatebro
@@jeremyghunter I've read Marx. If his theory was correct, the wages of the ordinary people in the Eastern Bloc would've been higher than in the West. But the opposite was true.
At the end, I reflexively clapped
good work
Yo that got me fired up!
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Advents? - Radio, TV the Internet?
The weeks preceding Christmas?
"This effort was made in the same way as the extremely centralised and Jacobin endeavour of Babeuf. I owe it to you to say frankly that, according to my view, this effort to build a communist republic on the basis of a strongly centralised state communism under the iron law of party dictatorship is bound to end in failure. We learn in Russia how communism cannot be introduced” - Petr Kropotkin on the Bolshevik regime in a message to western workers
Imagine thinking mutual aid is achieving anything.
Oh did you by any chance also come across Petr Kropotkin's speeches in defense of the Provisional Government's policy of continuation of WW I participation ? What a pacifist and true anarchist he was 🤣🤣🤣Sending his fellow countrymen to kill and be killed by their class brothers at the front. You dont even know your idiotic icons
@@renatopereira2315 Kropotkin never claimed to be a pacifist. His position on WW1 was rightly very unpopular in the anarchist movement of his day (which mostly took the correct no war but the class war position). Despite Kroptokin's views on WW1 there remains much of value in his work, including his criticisms of fake, authoritarian 'communism'.
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5:52 wrong Lenin s grand father was slavery !!!!! 5:52
“We must raise the question of applying much of what is scientific and progressive in the Taylor system. The Soviet Republic must at all costs adopt all that is valuable in the achievements of science and technology in this field. We must organise in Russia the study and teaching of the Taylor system.” - Lenin
Ok CIA agent.
@@LAFC. 🤣🤣
@@LAFC. I think this is the opposite of a CIA take
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5:52 wrong Lenin s grand father was slavery !!!!! 5:52
I would really like to know why Trotsky is well regarded. I'm asking because there are many accounts of him being a narcissist, master of theatrics, fond of conspiracies/intrigues, and 0 qualms about betraying/lying to his collaborators.
On what do you base those claims? What are the "accounts"?
On your first question: Trotsky did alot of things that is well regarded, played the key role in the October revolution and the creation of the red army, dedicated his life to defend internationalism and bolshevism. His analysies have been proven correct, while menshevik and later Stalinist ideas such as two-stage theory and socialism in one country has been proven outright reactionary time and time again.
Trotsky, Lenin and true Bolsjevism is a tool for marxists today to organize for revolution in all countries and more and more workers, especially young workers, are seeking answers and ideas on how we can fight for socialism. Trotsky, Lenin, Marx or Engels and other important marxists arent well regarded because of their personal squabbles, who outsmarted who, who "won", their personalities etc, but for their ideas, how they correspond with reality and because they are the best source to educate ourselves politically for class action.
Baseless accusations from an agent provocateur. What next, a link to a Grover Furr pdf that isn't worth printing?
@@smalbeaste What ideas/analyses of Trotsky have been proven correct? Who proved them? How? I am entirely unfamiliar.
@@Tetragrammaton22 Trotsky wrote in the early 1930's as fascism was advancing and gaining ground in Germany.
Trotsky clearly spelled out how fascism could have been stopped in Germany.
Trotsky proposed a united front between the German SPD party and the German KPD party.
The SPD was the Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands.
The KPD was the German communist party.
Trotsky's idea was that the SPD and the KPD would put aside their differences and join forces in a United Front dedicated to fighting the Nazis. Had Trotsky's ideas been implemented, the Nazis could have been stopped.
Trotsky's analysis of the true nature of fascism is unparalleled.
Trotsky was writing this at a time when fascism was viewed favorably by millions of Americans and Europeans.
@@Tetragrammaton22
Some “marxists” seem to forget that the practice is the sole criteria for testing truth. They prefer to suppose that if Trotsky would not been taken out of power, he would’ve done all right. At the same time they are denying the merits of Stalin.
Really stupid, in my high school years in Soviet Union, I was studying the same, but at a much deeper level. We're living its history and laughing on soviet propaganda 45 years ago.
What’s really stupid?? And I’m worried this video is a apologia for ussr
5:52 wrong Lenin s grand father was slavery !!!!! 5:52
Толик ты заблудился 😂😂😂😂
one word : (khazarian jews) allah save me.
5:52 wrong Lenin s grand father was slavery !!!!! 5:52
"The state as an institution is designed to protect and enforce oppressive class relations, such as that of the bourgeoisie over the proletariat, not erode them. Allowing the state to continue to exist will not assist in dissolving such relations, only in perpetuating them in new and equally destructive forms . Without the state, such classes will be unable to enforce their will on the populous, and thus will not be able to continue their existence." - Nestor Makhno.
Would you prefer the rule of empire instead
@@jimgaston9863 🤣
@@jimgaston9863 Ofcourse. Anarchists are famous for their love of empire 🤣
@@AutonomousVoice They really are! So much so that they let Franco create one in spain
@@LAFC. 🤣
“When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called "the People's Stick." - Mikhail Bakunin
What a stupid quote. Imagine saying it and thinking youre adding insight to dialogue.
@@LAFC.So you think we the working should be beaten?
Stick to your student politics
“The dictatorship of the proletariat . . . in reality it would be, for the proletariat, a barrack regime where the standardized mass of men and women workers would wake, sleep, work and eat to the beat of a drum ; for the clever and learned a privilege, of governing : and for the mercenary minded attracted by the state bank, a vast field of lucrative jobbery.” - Mikhail Bakunin.
Anarchist let Franco and his fascists win because they couldnt let go of their ideals. Instead of fighting alongside the communists and the left , the anarchists died and led their people to death out of sheer stubbornness.. Maybe if they had adopted Leninism, Spainn would have achieved socialism instead of francoism
@@LAFC. I don't know what you're on about but if I were you I'd stay off the crack pipe. Lenin was a state capitalist tyrant who crushed the working class and had sex workers and other socialists executed. Dora Kaplan did nothing wrong.
@@LAFC. It was the Spanish 'socialist' government and the Stalinists who betrayed the revolution and allowed Franco to win, not the anarchists. As for Leninism, Lenin himself openly admitted that his ideology was not at all socialist but was infact "state capitalism."
A jew teaching us about communism lol