Honestly, Burger is a very good resource to get a good wide overview of WoD. Others will go into more detail, but as i said, he is a good way to get a good overview.
46:40 Awnsering your question... Dragons for example. They we're basically censored out of existance, and we're one of the first victims of the New Consensus. They aren't extinct tho, they just moved into the umbra.
Actually that mechanism you thought about does exist it's why chantries (lab for technocracy) work they have a powerful localised reality. It's the place the sanctuary for mage players. The local reality consensus can actually be changed if the players are saavy and manipulative enough.
The “for every person that stops believing in fairies another fairy dies” storyline from peter pan is basically the kid knowledge version of the consensus effect…
Yep. In fact, they might even be more similar to Church and science faction from the "A Certain" series, given that their powers work by overriding the general perception of reality. Basically every esper is constantly projecting a reality marble outwards.
I can only follow the other people in the comments and also recommend Burgerkrieg if you want a short overview over one of the factions in the World of Darkness. And yes, over an hour is short. But if we are on recommendations, Lazar of Stygia also has a ton of lore-videos on just singular vampire clans or even characters, if that is something you want to learn about.
26:45 two things: One, it's called heavy water because it's water that is heavier than H2O. Heavy water is D2O, super-heavy water is T2O. Deuterium and Tritium respectively, which are isotopes of hydrogen with one and two neutrons, as opposed to just a single Proton. The increase in density is such that an ice-cube of heavy water will sink in water, and an ice-cube of super-heavy water will sink in heavy water. Two, Neutron Bomb, not Neutrino Bomb. Neutrons are the same size as protons, just with a neutral charge. Dose something with enough neutrons and you destabilise it on a nuclear level, case the atoms you've bombarded to become radioactive. Neutrino's are the one you need a laser for, neutrons just need high density and enough force behind them. Also a neutron bomb isn't what you think it is. In terms of nuclear weapons, it goes Fission, Fission-Fusion, Pure Fusion, Neutron. Most modern nukes are Fission-Fusion, using a small fission reaction to cause a fusion reaction. A Neutron bomb goes a step further, where the fusion reaction is so intense, that it fuses all the protons and electrons in the elements inside.
In my opinion at least the best way to play Mage is to have neither the Council nor the Technocracy be fully good or evil. Instead having them be different sides with positives and negatives. I feel like it adds a lot more nuance to the game that way. It can also lead to far more interesting stories.
I know you've probably had someone correct you already, but: 26:18 Nope. You're thinking of Neutrinos. Neutrons neutral charged particles in the nucleus of an atom with comparable mass to a proton. A neutron bomb is a scary thing, but it is also scary depending on your tech level, because in sci-fi there are multiple things that count as neutron bombs. The "simplest" is probably the "made of neutrons" bomb. In this case, what you have is the real life neutronium, the material a neutron star is made of. Where gravitational forces of the dense star have forced all the electrons and protons to combine together into neutrons, and all neutrons are lumped next to each other, turning the material into a macroscopic scale gigangtic atomic core. Remember how much space of an atom is filled up by electrons zipping around in their clouds? Well in neutronium, it's not - it's just solid neutrons. The reason this is so dangerous is because the neutrons DO NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THIS. They are actively pushing, and "winning" against gravity in order to not become a black hole. If you separate out a portion of neutronium for use without other clarktech, and take it away from the huge gravity of the neutron star, all those neutrons explode back out, "filling" up the space that they'd normally take up. The density of neutronium is 10^17Kg/m^3 (kilograms per cubic meter) The density of water is 10^3Kg/m^3 That neutronium explodes trying to fill up a space on the order of 10^14 times larger than it once was. How much is that? Well if you start at 1 meter condensed neutronium... and 1.7 x 10^13 is the distance from the sun to the voyager one probe. 17 billion kilometers. So, slightly more than 5 times that distance. And pure neutrons, without protons around, are among the most dangerous of nuclear radiation (because they're uncharged they can pass through material unless they literally hit an atomic nucleus, which is very *very* rare), but also, neutrons by themselves are unstable and will decay into a proton-electron pair. So it's double the nuclear radiation for the price of one. If you want to crater the Earth significantly, while also sterilizing it into a radioactive hellhole for eons, this is one bomb you can use.
Vampire (and werewolves and wraiths for that matter) vs Concessus: The concenssus among human is thus: we rule the earth and are on top of the food chain UNCONTESTED. So when vampire (or other things hidden in the night) appear in plain sight... well it wont create paradox because that's only a reaction from awakened magic usage, but it will trigger something in the back of the human psyke: the will to live. If you know that there is something in the shadow hunting you... you tried to flee. If you cant, you defend yourself. If youre too weak (vs vampire... yeah), you band together to defend each other's back. Eventually you calm down, you consider and ponder... and sometime fear is replace with anger... and then the hunter/hunted positions are reversed. This is not a matter of some cosmic law dicting how to react, its in mankind's nature on how to react to what's in the wild: some we tame, the other we track. Ho and nightkin is one of the term mage and technocrat use to refer to the other faction. human rule by day, but creature stalk the night. That term exclude them since they try to establish their rality in broad daylight.
- WoD cross-Faction: each setting is made independantly from one another... but they each have at least one faction somewhere that is more knowledgable about ''what else is there in the darkness''. From the POV of vampire; clan Gangrel live outside of society, so they come across werewolf mpre often, clan Tremere was once part of a mage tradition so they have... somewhat outdated info on mage (dont think they know much about technocrat though), clan Giovanni (bunch of necromancer those) know about wraith and specters... But overall, they wont know much about those because everyone play the big game with their card very close to their chest and if they come across one another, its usually young and negligable member of a faction. Technocrat might spot neonate trying to feed in the street, but contact with elder or vampire high sociaty will be rare beyond belief (even if looked for). The death of the Ravnos Antediluvian was a cross-over between every faction because it was the kick-off for the ''time of judegment'' end-game event. speaking of wich: - The death of the Ravnos Antediluvian: One of the 13th vampire god, founder of clan Ravnos, died in an open battlefield in the flood plain of Bangladesh. Facing him was 3... whatever was the title of 3 Kuei-jins elders. To not be bothered by something as silly as the ray of the sun (lethal to both side), Zarathustra summoned a typhoon over the entire country. That did made a beep on the technocracy's radar. The protocol to react to those guys allowed 100% civilian casuality, 100% technocrat personnel casuality, 100% technocrat asset losses... bottom line: throw E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G we have at the center of the storm. That battle lasted a week, it ended with the technocracy losing patience at their inability at clearing the storm and yes nuking the area until they broke Zara (for short) concentration. That did killed the 3 kuei-jin but Zara survived... barely, but that was step A, step B was using that superweapon from ''James Bond: die another day'': huge orbital deployable mirror to reflect and concentrate the light of the sun... they used like 7 of those on the poor old leech. Zara's death... was a first in the least 10k years. Most previous dead antediluvian that officially died was either diablerized (Brujah or Capedoce) or survived under another form (Saulot, Tzimizie). Never before did one died in such a definitive way. Never before was the mage population (traditions and technocrats) made so plainly and painfully aware of what exist at the top of vampire society... ...and then they learn that was one out of 13... plus Caine... plus maybe Lilith... Their order of priority was somewhat shuffle in the following months.
Check out his Shadowrun videos, I would love to see you face when you hear soon of that stuff. Edit: Shadowrun is a cyberpunk style RPG from the same people who made BattleTech.
not claiming to be a expert on the world of Darkness, but part of the reason the Technocracy is the bad guys is because you plays as people on the hit-list. The vampires the faeries the werewolves. The fact that Hunters are also kinda the good guys is part of the reason they give the Technocracy cluster headaches, cuz unlike the monsters they arent simply black and white so even if worse comes to worse, you cant solve the issue by killing it
It's been happening for a long time. Sometimes refreshing helps, sometimes it doesn't. And even weirder, sometimes it fixes itself made video. No idea how any of that happens at this point. 🤷♂️
The Technocracy started out as the good guys when they were initially the Order of Reason. Then they killed the Craftmasons to side with landowners over workers in a historical worker’s revolution and there went their good side. Nowadays they do that exact shit they were criticizing other mages of doing but they do it in a nice suit.
It might be a lot to add another thing for you to get into but I HIGHLY reccomend the CAIN videos made by Zacktact. Its a new TTRPG which is bassically a mix of SCP and JJK. Its also kinda depressing from what I've been told.
The idea of mages is scary. People who can, at will, alter how the world works to fit their whims leaves me feeling vulnerable no matter where I am. The Technocracy beyond terrifies me. Because at least with mages, they are building off of reality. There is a concrete floor of what is real, that mages build off from to do what they will. Technocracy agents reveal that the laws of reality only exist because it's convenient that they do. There is no concrete, just writing in the sand.
Edit: Well shoot I should've just waited a couple minutes before I wrote this. Sorry xD 26:37 Airier, that's neutrinos. Neutrons are the other thing in an atom's nucleus besides protons. Also neutron bombs already exist and were invented in the late 1950s and were part of the US arsenal until 1996. They differ from typical nuclear weapons in that their goal is to minimize the actual explosive power of the bomb in exchange for maximizing the intensity of the radiation around its detonation area in order to penetrate heavy armor, bunkers, etc, and render an area utterly uninhabitable, but for a much shorter period- years instead of decades. Instead of, ya know, a regular nuke just making anybody near its crater have cancer for the next few generations.
All of the World of Darkness books, except for Mummy and Demon, have 6 editions: 1st, 2nd, Revised, 20th Anniversary, 4th and 5th. Mummy never got its Revised edition(what White Wolf called 3rd edition) because it was the least popular among WoD fans, and Demon came out so late in the original World of Darkness run(I don't know if Chronicles of Darkness had a Demon setting) that it only got a 1st edition and 2nd was scrapped ahead of Chronicles.
@Miron_Marnic Yes and no. Yes in the fact that when White Wolf was still around, it was the 4th edition. No in the fact that the company who acquired the rights to World of Darkness created their own 4th edition that (mostly) ignores the rule changes in the 20th anniversary edition.
@oldeskul The one you have been talking about, 4e that mostly ignores the changes made in 20e. Or were you referring to 5e? Forgive me if my comments are somewhat unclear, English is not my first language
You might want to change the name of the video. This was about Mage the Ascension. Mage the Awakening is the sequel game system and has completely different lore and mechanics. Both are amazing though
I wouldn't say it failed more like it was niche cause people got butt hurt over the change in the rules and metaplot. And sure the system was a bit flawed (fixed mostly in 2e) but it was definitely easier to scale up from local struggles to globe spanning fuckery XD.
@ No it wasn't failed. Just edition warring. The metaplot got too crowded with impending apocalypses and they had to make them all finally boil over because they couldn't be just over the hillside *forever* without any pay off. Then they did a reboot and old fans got mad that it wasn't the same thing. It's like if a WH40K fan got mad that Age of Sigmar existed and had fans.
@Gabe600 and you don't think that they would be there without the technocry doing what they did. And also, I said they caused all their problems, not the problem, but definitely are one if you look at the lore. That said, the technocry is a hidden organization in hidden organizations why wouldn't they be a part of pentex? Good way to keep tabs on werewolves.
Honestly, Burger is a very good resource to get a good wide overview of WoD. Others will go into more detail, but as i said, he is a good way to get a good overview.
46:40 Awnsering your question... Dragons for example. They we're basically censored out of existance, and we're one of the first victims of the New Consensus.
They aren't extinct tho, they just moved into the umbra.
Actually that mechanism you thought about does exist it's why chantries (lab for technocracy) work they have a powerful localised reality. It's the place the sanctuary for mage players. The local reality consensus can actually be changed if the players are saavy and manipulative enough.
Fun fact you can infact do bullet time and neo bullet stop as a mage XD you can also curve the bullet around corners too
The “for every person that stops believing in fairies another fairy dies” storyline from peter pan is basically the kid knowledge version of the consensus effect…
They're basically the Church from Fate. The Church uses Magecraft, but doesn't CALL it Magecraft, and therefore it's totally kosher.😂
Yep.
In fact, they might even be more similar to Church and science faction from the "A Certain" series, given that their powers work by overriding the general perception of reality.
Basically every esper is constantly projecting a reality marble outwards.
Both have yet to reach the levels of wod
I can only follow the other people in the comments and also recommend Burgerkrieg if you want a short overview over one of the factions in the World of Darkness.
And yes, over an hour is short.
But if we are on recommendations, Lazar of Stygia also has a ton of lore-videos on just singular vampire clans or even characters, if that is something you want to learn about.
Burger is probably the best jumping off point for WoD. His videos like this are great for giving you an idea of what to look forward to.
Back when WW took large player group events as canon, they actually used the consensus rules to decide if something was big enough to change the world
Burgerkrieg has good videos ,
Technocracy and mummy are personal favorites .
The Vampire Clans is also good
26:45 two things:
One, it's called heavy water because it's water that is heavier than H2O. Heavy water is D2O, super-heavy water is T2O. Deuterium and Tritium respectively, which are isotopes of hydrogen with one and two neutrons, as opposed to just a single Proton. The increase in density is such that an ice-cube of heavy water will sink in water, and an ice-cube of super-heavy water will sink in heavy water.
Two, Neutron Bomb, not Neutrino Bomb. Neutrons are the same size as protons, just with a neutral charge. Dose something with enough neutrons and you destabilise it on a nuclear level, case the atoms you've bombarded to become radioactive. Neutrino's are the one you need a laser for, neutrons just need high density and enough force behind them.
Also a neutron bomb isn't what you think it is. In terms of nuclear weapons, it goes Fission, Fission-Fusion, Pure Fusion, Neutron. Most modern nukes are Fission-Fusion, using a small fission reaction to cause a fusion reaction. A Neutron bomb goes a step further, where the fusion reaction is so intense, that it fuses all the protons and electrons in the elements inside.
Burger is very underrated goober. Good to see anyone recognize him.
In my opinion at least the best way to play Mage is to have neither the Council nor the Technocracy be fully good or evil. Instead having them be different sides with positives and negatives. I feel like it adds a lot more nuance to the game that way. It can also lead to far more interesting stories.
I know you've probably had someone correct you already, but:
26:18
Nope. You're thinking of Neutrinos. Neutrons neutral charged particles in the nucleus of an atom with comparable mass to a proton.
A neutron bomb is a scary thing, but it is also scary depending on your tech level, because in sci-fi there are multiple things that count as neutron bombs.
The "simplest" is probably the "made of neutrons" bomb.
In this case, what you have is the real life neutronium, the material a neutron star is made of. Where gravitational forces of the dense star have forced all the electrons and protons to combine together into neutrons, and all neutrons are lumped next to each other, turning the material into a macroscopic scale gigangtic atomic core. Remember how much space of an atom is filled up by electrons zipping around in their clouds? Well in neutronium, it's not - it's just solid neutrons.
The reason this is so dangerous is because the neutrons DO NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THIS. They are actively pushing, and "winning" against gravity in order to not become a black hole.
If you separate out a portion of neutronium for use without other clarktech, and take it away from the huge gravity of the neutron star, all those neutrons explode back out, "filling" up the space that they'd normally take up.
The density of neutronium is 10^17Kg/m^3 (kilograms per cubic meter)
The density of water is 10^3Kg/m^3
That neutronium explodes trying to fill up a space on the order of 10^14 times larger than it once was.
How much is that?
Well if you start at 1 meter condensed neutronium... and 1.7 x 10^13 is the distance from the sun to the voyager one probe. 17 billion kilometers. So, slightly more than 5 times that distance.
And pure neutrons, without protons around, are among the most dangerous of nuclear radiation (because they're uncharged they can pass through material unless they literally hit an atomic nucleus, which is very *very* rare), but also, neutrons by themselves are unstable and will decay into a proton-electron pair. So it's double the nuclear radiation for the price of one.
If you want to crater the Earth significantly, while also sterilizing it into a radioactive hellhole for eons, this is one bomb you can use.
Vampire (and werewolves and wraiths for that matter) vs Concessus: The concenssus among human is thus: we rule the earth and are on top of the food chain UNCONTESTED. So when vampire (or other things hidden in the night) appear in plain sight... well it wont create paradox because that's only a reaction from awakened magic usage, but it will trigger something in the back of the human psyke: the will to live. If you know that there is something in the shadow hunting you... you tried to flee. If you cant, you defend yourself. If youre too weak (vs vampire... yeah), you band together to defend each other's back. Eventually you calm down, you consider and ponder... and sometime fear is replace with anger... and then the hunter/hunted positions are reversed.
This is not a matter of some cosmic law dicting how to react, its in mankind's nature on how to react to what's in the wild: some we tame, the other we track.
Ho and nightkin is one of the term mage and technocrat use to refer to the other faction. human rule by day, but creature stalk the night. That term exclude them since they try to establish their rality in broad daylight.
- WoD cross-Faction: each setting is made independantly from one another... but they each have at least one faction somewhere that is more knowledgable about ''what else is there in the darkness''. From the POV of vampire; clan Gangrel live outside of society, so they come across werewolf mpre often, clan Tremere was once part of a mage tradition so they have... somewhat outdated info on mage (dont think they know much about technocrat though), clan Giovanni (bunch of necromancer those) know about wraith and specters... But overall, they wont know much about those because everyone play the big game with their card very close to their chest and if they come across one another, its usually young and negligable member of a faction. Technocrat might spot neonate trying to feed in the street, but contact with elder or vampire high sociaty will be rare beyond belief (even if looked for). The death of the Ravnos Antediluvian was a cross-over between every faction because it was the kick-off for the ''time of judegment'' end-game event.
speaking of wich:
- The death of the Ravnos Antediluvian: One of the 13th vampire god, founder of clan Ravnos, died in an open battlefield in the flood plain of Bangladesh. Facing him was 3... whatever was the title of 3 Kuei-jins elders. To not be bothered by something as silly as the ray of the sun (lethal to both side), Zarathustra summoned a typhoon over the entire country. That did made a beep on the technocracy's radar. The protocol to react to those guys allowed 100% civilian casuality, 100% technocrat personnel casuality, 100% technocrat asset losses... bottom line: throw E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G we have at the center of the storm. That battle lasted a week, it ended with the technocracy losing patience at their inability at clearing the storm and yes nuking the area until they broke Zara (for short) concentration. That did killed the 3 kuei-jin but Zara survived... barely, but that was step A, step B was using that superweapon from ''James Bond: die another day'': huge orbital deployable mirror to reflect and concentrate the light of the sun... they used like 7 of those on the poor old leech. Zara's death... was a first in the least 10k years. Most previous dead antediluvian that officially died was either diablerized (Brujah or Capedoce) or survived under another form (Saulot, Tzimizie). Never before did one died in such a definitive way. Never before was the mage population (traditions and technocrats) made so plainly and painfully aware of what exist at the top of vampire society...
...and then they learn that was one out of 13... plus Caine... plus maybe Lilith... Their order of priority was somewhat shuffle in the following months.
Check out his Shadowrun videos, I would love to see you face when you hear soon of that stuff.
Edit: Shadowrun is a cyberpunk style RPG from the same people who made BattleTech.
If memory serves right people used it source book to study economics.
not claiming to be a expert on the world of Darkness, but part of the reason the Technocracy is the bad guys is because you plays as people on the hit-list. The vampires the faeries the werewolves. The fact that Hunters are also kinda the good guys is part of the reason they give the Technocracy cluster headaches, cuz unlike the monsters they arent simply black and white so even if worse comes to worse, you cant solve the issue by killing it
52:47 remind us of art for the player character from Slay the princess
TheBurgerkrieg. Nice. Love that dude.
I think that RUclips has been having a problem with video syncing lately. There's some more news videos that are also really desynced
It's been happening for a long time. Sometimes refreshing helps, sometimes it doesn't.
And even weirder, sometimes it fixes itself made video. No idea how any of that happens at this point. 🤷♂️
The Technocracy started out as the good guys when they were initially the Order of Reason. Then they killed the Craftmasons to side with landowners over workers in a historical worker’s revolution and there went their good side. Nowadays they do that exact shit they were criticizing other mages of doing but they do it in a nice suit.
It might be a lot to add another thing for you to get into but I HIGHLY reccomend the CAIN videos made by Zacktact.
Its a new TTRPG which is bassically a mix of SCP and JJK. Its also kinda depressing from what I've been told.
Thanks for Part 1. I still hope you'll end the video, and watch more of Burger's work about World of Darkness. Yes he did most of them.
Three conventions to go, and He will have watched the entire video.
@Miron_Marnic Oh. Were can I find it? Or I must wait?
@tomasrolter6729 He watches all the videos you see on streams. Give it a couple of weeks, and you will be able to watch them all.
The idea of mages is scary. People who can, at will, alter how the world works to fit their whims leaves me feeling vulnerable no matter where I am.
The Technocracy beyond terrifies me. Because at least with mages, they are building off of reality. There is a concrete floor of what is real, that mages build off from to do what they will. Technocracy agents reveal that the laws of reality only exist because it's convenient that they do. There is no concrete, just writing in the sand.
Yoooo girl genius mentioned??? I havent even thought of that comic in many years
Oooh could you react to the Shadowrun vids as well?? I adore that setting!!
38:35 not really , vampires do not get affected by paradox
Edit: Well shoot I should've just waited a couple minutes before I wrote this. Sorry xD
26:37
Airier, that's neutrinos. Neutrons are the other thing in an atom's nucleus besides protons. Also neutron bombs already exist and were invented in the late 1950s and were part of the US arsenal until 1996. They differ from typical nuclear weapons in that their goal is to minimize the actual explosive power of the bomb in exchange for maximizing the intensity of the radiation around its detonation area in order to penetrate heavy armor, bunkers, etc, and render an area utterly uninhabitable, but for a much shorter period- years instead of decades. Instead of, ya know, a regular nuke just making anybody near its crater have cancer for the next few generations.
All of the World of Darkness books, except for Mummy and Demon, have 6 editions: 1st, 2nd, Revised, 20th Anniversary, 4th and 5th. Mummy never got its Revised edition(what White Wolf called 3rd edition) because it was the least popular among WoD fans, and Demon came out so late in the original World of Darkness run(I don't know if Chronicles of Darkness had a Demon setting) that it only got a 1st edition and 2nd was scrapped ahead of Chronicles.
The 4th edition IS the 20th anniversary edition
@Miron_Marnic Yes and no. Yes in the fact that when White Wolf was still around, it was the 4th edition. No in the fact that the company who acquired the rights to World of Darkness created their own 4th edition that (mostly) ignores the rule changes in the 20th anniversary edition.
@@oldeskul Where can I read about this, then? I have never heard of such an edition
@Miron_Marnic Which edition?
@oldeskul The one you have been talking about, 4e that mostly ignores the changes made in 20e. Or were you referring to 5e? Forgive me if my comments are somewhat unclear, English is not my first language
The title is wrong (other than that, I am so happy to see the thing I have been asking for since October!)
Reaction recommendation: Jenny Nicholson
Specifically THE Vampire Diaries, Evermore, and the Brony Autopsy video
Add her Star Wars hotel video to that list as well (even if it would probably take Airier years to cover it all) and I am behind you 100%.
You might want to change the name of the video. This was about Mage the Ascension. Mage the Awakening is the sequel game system and has completely different lore and mechanics. Both are amazing though
Love from a BurgerKrieg and Vaush fan!
I enjoy this do the rest
Not mage the awakening but Mage the Ascencion. (Awakening is the failed relaunch of the game with new rules and lore.)
Was it actually failed tho?
I wouldn't say it failed more like it was niche cause people got butt hurt over the change in the rules and metaplot. And sure the system was a bit flawed (fixed mostly in 2e) but it was definitely easier to scale up from local struggles to globe spanning fuckery XD.
Hold on… *looks to my folder of 30+ Mage the Awakening books that were published across two editions* yeah. Failed. Gotcha.
@ No it wasn't failed. Just edition warring. The metaplot got too crowded with impending apocalypses and they had to make them all finally boil over because they couldn't be just over the hillside *forever* without any pay off. Then they did a reboot and old fans got mad that it wasn't the same thing. It's like if a WH40K fan got mad that Age of Sigmar existed and had fans.
Please Airier, react to more burgerkrieg
Please more burgerkrieg
Hey when do you plan to do epic the final saga came out over a week ago
hey airier can you react to helluva boss S2E12
Another funny thing. They have caused every problem in werewolf the apocalypse.
No, you must be thinking of Pentex, different organization
@Gabe600 and you don't think that they would be there without the technocry doing what they did. And also, I said they caused all their problems, not the problem, but definitely are one if you look at the lore. That said, the technocry is a hidden organization in hidden organizations why wouldn't they be a part of pentex? Good way to keep tabs on werewolves.
The Special Projects Division is a branch of the Technocracy that cooperates with Pentex, they do not control it