What's the EV Charging Infrastructure in Norway Really Like?

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  • @brandenflasch
    @brandenflasch  2 года назад +9

    What part of this would you like to see come to the US the most?

    • @JamesBrittonIRL
      @JamesBrittonIRL 2 года назад +4

      Ubiquitous urban charging on streets and in parking structures.

    • @ChrisLawrenceRebel
      @ChrisLawrenceRebel 2 года назад +2

      Pull-through stations would be big, along with filling in network gaps.

    • @busog97641
      @busog97641 2 года назад +1

      I would like to see more on street EVSE's.
      Here in Tacoma the city is installing in multiple locations.
      They are charging 50 cents a hour

    • @busog97641
      @busog97641 2 года назад +1

      No, now that I have almost finished watching this I have decided that what I want to see replicated here in the States is the 92% sells of EV's and the 25% EV's on the roads. That's what I want.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +1

      @@busog97641 It’ll take a bit to get there.

  • @ewawiman9007
    @ewawiman9007 2 года назад +12

    Q1 2022 in Norway 83% av all new registered cars were BEV, 7% were Hybrid and just under 10% was fossil-fuel-cars / ICE-cars. That is impressive. They have by law nowdays that new parking lots must be either prepared for charging infrastructure or built with chargers.
    Leading up towards this situation. For quicker adoption of EV:s. They had for a number of years tax exemption for EV:s, free parking in city centers, EV:s could use the carpool-lane/taxi-bus-lanes and other measures that promoted EV:s as vehicles for the future. Some of those measure are being dialed down or is going to be dialed down because of todays adoption of EV:s in Norway.
    I would like to see more charge-infratstructure all over the world and more solar-farms for charging purposes and more legislation that help promote EV:s like the laws and regulations of Norway has done. Tax exemptions, fee exemptions and more.

    • @Nill757
      @Nill757 Год назад

      I read that Norway offers incentives via city parking, HOV access, etc worth EUR 5000/yr, every year for the life of the car. They’re essentially buying a national EV fleet. Nice bankroll if you can get it.
      Don’t see point to solar PV charging at 60 deg N.

    • @KrustyKlown
      @KrustyKlown 10 месяцев назад

      What do they charge per kwh in Norway?? .. is it absurdly marked up like here in the USA, where it costs as much as gasoline.

  • @RNbiker57
    @RNbiker57 Год назад +5

    This is a great video, thanks for making it! I drive a 2019 Chevy Bolt since Feb 2020. In the last few years I've watched our infrastructure for electric vehicles go from barely detectable to "okay, we have some". Norway is way, way ahead of us. It's easy to see some of the reasons from your video. The rows of on-street level 2 chargers, apartment-friendly charging stations and numerous level 3 DCFCs all tell the story. Encouraging! If Norway can do it we can as well.

  • @joshmatlock1020
    @joshmatlock1020 2 года назад +11

    I think more Level II charging around apartments, work places and shopping areas would go a long way towards EV adoption in the US. Because right now people in apartments would have a very difficult time going EV...Even if shopping centers, apartments and work places just installed 240V outlets so people could bring their own charging units could be quite helpful.

    • @skyemalcolm
      @skyemalcolm 2 года назад +3

      9/50 states have laws called “right charge” which means as a renter you have the right to be accommodated to work with the landlord to install charging. This is actually what they have in Norway, not coincidentally. More states need to pass these laws to help change the mindset of renters/landlords.

  • @jonerzinger9873
    @jonerzinger9873 Год назад +6

    This is very impressive, it’s enough to make a person weep to see how far behind this we are in North America.

  • @Mobraks
    @Mobraks 2 года назад +3

    The Neo is frully automatic. Its really cool. It takes over the control of your car and parks it inside the booth for you. 5 minutes later you have a fully charged batteru innstaled

  • @SpaceCakeism
    @SpaceCakeism 2 года назад +7

    14:05
    Branden: E... 8... 18? ...
    Me: Dude, the sign is literally right in front of you, it says E134...

  • @sjokomelk
    @sjokomelk 3 месяца назад +1

    There is a law here in Norway saying that if you take payment or charge for parking, your parking lot has to have EV charging on at least 10% of the parking spaces. That is why there is so many Type2 charging stations in all the parking garages you visit.

  • @bobsande2463
    @bobsande2463 Год назад +2

    Branden. You say to tap the rfid card, easy. But where do you get the rfid card?? I’m going to rent in late July and mostly am concerned about card or app access and I don’t see anyone talking about how to get started with the proper card or account.

  • @BrandonDoyle.
    @BrandonDoyle. 2 года назад +2

    thats really cool, looking forward to when we have similar setups here in the US

  • @siasek
    @siasek Год назад +5

    That's absolutely amazing, I hear we can't do that! I guess they forgot about it in Norway. :D

  • @brianriebedriveselectric
    @brianriebedriveselectric 2 года назад +5

    Wow! I love how there seems to be charging (and variety of decent power levels) everywhere. Lounge areas seemed pretty welcoming too. Looking forward to this coming to North America.

  • @inferno10
    @inferno10 2 года назад +5

    I wonder if having a detached cable standard like what’s used for the type 2 connector would help increase the amount of level 2 chargers on the street and in garages in North America

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +1

      It likely would, but it’s probably too late to switch.

    • @Nill757
      @Nill757 Год назад +1

      It has to happen. There’s no way to throw up many many two plug street side chargers as shown w 10’ attached cables each side. The cable management will stink which is a non starter street side.

  • @gothazoth5935
    @gothazoth5935 9 месяцев назад +1

    hi Branden, would I be able to use your drone footage of circle K in our university powerpoint presentation?

  • @trustinflames1022
    @trustinflames1022 11 месяцев назад +1

    That is very impressive. Here in the U.K. we have a handful of charging stations like the circle k at the end of this video. But the rest of our infrastructure is woefully behind when it comes to EV. As it stands I can’t charge at home so will be sticking with ICE until infrastructure has caught up.
    One thing I still find very ironic about Norways adoption of EV, is how a lot of it is subsidised by the government, what will most likely be paid for by the oil and gas that Norway produces.

    • @runear1
      @runear1 8 месяцев назад +1

      Partly true, max 4% of the annual surplus from oil & gas is available for public budget. The rest is invested in global stocks and property ( a pension fund ).
      UK has a large oil & gas sector - where does the money go?

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Год назад +1

    PV panels of the charging station canopy have a small tilt? Should be fixed at 60deg in Norway.

  • @pinkfreud62
    @pinkfreud62 7 месяцев назад

    I wanna visit Norway some day & I'm glad they still have fuel car rentals options. I don't wanna spend my vacation learning about how to use it or wait forever in a remote town while charging or hoping a small town motel has a charger. I'm not a big city person in big cities I don't know. I'm more of a nature sight seer. So I'm opting for gas while the option is still available. Just pump & go!

    • @catherineim2431
      @catherineim2431 7 месяцев назад

      I agree! I hope they will still offer fuel cars.

    • @jonhroarulstad5775
      @jonhroarulstad5775 27 дней назад

      You will always be able to drive a fossil car in Norway. You will just need to plan your trip. The gas stations are closing due to low demand in smaller places. The pumps are replaced with chargers.

  • @eivindhelle3985
    @eivindhelle3985 5 месяцев назад +1

    When I purchased my first EV in 2015, most of this infrastructure did not exist. So it is possible to build a lot of infrastructure in less than 10 years.

  • @stighelmer1265
    @stighelmer1265 2 года назад

    Just co driven a ID.3 58KW from Oslo to Bonn. Quite an adventure if you ask me.

  • @JosephHowes2003
    @JosephHowes2003 10 месяцев назад +1

    You would think that businesses would want to add level 2 charging. Most don't charge for parking now so even if they don't see it as a way to encourage people to use their business, they could at least profit off of people parking. I would think that they could negotiate lower rates with the electric company (maybe there could be a subsidy too) and they could charge a reasonable amount more than people pay at home for the convenience.

  • @rubiooibur8534
    @rubiooibur8534 Год назад +1

    Central Europe / West Europe and almost all Scandinavian Countries are like this these days

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Год назад +2

    The supercharger 40 stall, 100 KW a stall, that’s some 4MW. How do they get the power in there? I see no overhead lines I’m anywhere. They bury everything in Norway, which means digging up everything ?
    Same w that drone shot of the big outside charging near the gasoline station, no overhead utility cables at all.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад +2

      Underground lines are very common…

    • @Nill757
      @Nill757 Год назад

      @@brandenflasch Thanks. Nice video btw. Ok, buried for HV power means of lot of trenching of armored cable covered with concrete slab in any kind of parking area. I don’t see any trenching in the new construction scenes.

    • @jonhroarulstad5775
      @jonhroarulstad5775 27 дней назад +1

      We stopped hanging wires in the eighties, maybe even earlier.

  • @timoliver8940
    @timoliver8940 2 года назад +2

    I didn’t see any designated charger slots for disabled/ wheelchair using drivers - where I live the big charge hubs and many supermarkets have one or two bays marked as disabled driver accessible, any one can use them but they are prioritised for disabled drivers.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +2

      That’s just now becoming somewhat common in Norway but seemingly hasn’t been considered before.

    • @lemast11
      @lemast11 2 года назад +3

      We have designated HC charger slots in and around the town I live in (Horten, Norway) and have for maybe 2-3 years! So cool to see how fast Norway is changing👍
      Great vid btw, subed

    • @timoliver8940
      @timoliver8940 2 года назад +1

      @@lemast11 what a lovely place to live - I attended a weeklong training course at the Seagull training centre there in Horten in July 2015 - lunches and breaks were served outside on picnic benches overlooking the bay/harbour. We stayed in another small town a taxi ride away in a building that had once been a whaling station/ fish processing factory!

    • @jonhroarulstad5775
      @jonhroarulstad5775 27 дней назад

      @@timoliver8940I worked at Seagull back in the day. 👍

  • @dontcopyme9820
    @dontcopyme9820 6 месяцев назад

    Do you need an account to charge a rental car? Or do you just pay & plug?

  • @MrDean-os2dw
    @MrDean-os2dw Месяц назад

    Can you charge the plug in car or it is just for ev?

  • @SunshineVocals
    @SunshineVocals Год назад +1

    Now that's how you get adaption of EVs

    • @Nill757
      @Nill757 Год назад

      Charging yes and a EUR 5000/yr every year subsidy life of the car.

  • @barryw9473
    @barryw9473 2 года назад +1

    1. Canopy 2. Minimum 150 kW. 3. Battery on site 4. RELIABILITY 5. At least 8 stations per site.

    • @Brandofviti
      @Brandofviti Год назад

      So.. I am norwegian. I live in this and actually.. I kind of disagree with you on some and wholehartedly agree on some.
      1: YES
      2: Actually: Owning an ev learned me one thing: I drove my diesel WRONG. There is so many cool places to see! Before for instance.. Eidfjord was a place I drove right past. Now I can't wait to stop there, talking to great people, visit the cafe.. just enjoy the trip in stead of trying to run as fast as I can get to the destination. Therefore.. I am not against 150 kw.. but then I have to run back because the car is finished way before I am. Enjoy the trip as much as the destination :)
      So.. how about many 22kw chargers with cars that can charge 22kw slowcharging (Mine does just that) and some fastchargers for those who wish that.
      3: do you mean battery swap.. not a bad idea, but not now. Reason being there is a LOT of research on batteries now. Restricting that to just one form is smart, but lets wait until we see the different format form out and see whats best to go for.
      4: YES
      5. how about three times that, but 8 fast and the rest 22kw due to reason 2.
      6 which the EU mandated now.. No more freaking apps needed to start a freaking charge.

    • @barryw9473
      @barryw9473 Год назад +2

      @@Brandofviti i am guessing 22 kW is three phase AC charging. This type of charging does not exist in North America. Yes, more than 8 stalls would be great, too. I am referring to stationary battery storage.

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Год назад

    Man, those dozens of long high amp cable runs in the parking garage are *expensive*

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад +1

      They’re lower current than you think due to 3P

  • @MrGeekGamer
    @MrGeekGamer 2 года назад +1

    1:48 My office is just round the corner from there :)

  • @aj_2W0
    @aj_2W0 9 месяцев назад +2

    It'll be, at least, 50 years before we see this kind of infrastructure in North America.

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Год назад

    If you have, what was it in the indoor office parking, a hundred 22kw chargers, that’s a 2 MW bump in the building utility electric service. That’s enormous. It’s the usual service for a skyscraper or a major league ball park. How are buildings seeing that kind of upgrade? I’d like to see what’s changed on the power *entry* to that building, and hear from the power utility how they do this for a hundred, two, of these buildings around a city without blowing out a city avenue to run power

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад +1

      There is not capacity for all of them to run at nameplate at the same time - load management is critical for large sites

    • @Nill757
      @Nill757 Год назад

      @@brandenflasch Ah. Meaning what, plug-in in a full ish office parking lot and get trickle charged for some hours? More importantly, not clear how one can predict charge state upon return to the car

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад +1

      @@Nill757 there are many different load management strategies, but a key factor is that it’s very unlikely all units will be in use at any given time.

    • @Nill757
      @Nill757 Год назад

      @@brandenflasch The purpose of installing more charging stalls than the building electrical service can support is unclear.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад

      Most vehicles are not taking even close to the charger rating. Average power from a DCFC is typically much less than nameplate,

  • @catherineim2431
    @catherineim2431 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for your video! Do they accept physical credit cards?

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  7 месяцев назад

      Most do not, but with AFIR now in place, it will be more common.

    • @catherineim2431
      @catherineim2431 7 месяцев назад

      Thanks, what about Wifi? I’m asking as I do not have access to data.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  7 месяцев назад

      @@catherineim2431 I would recommend getting data

  • @KhalilAmar
    @KhalilAmar 2 года назад

    7:19 you should have approached the truck :)

  • @SooperJeenyus
    @SooperJeenyus Год назад

    What is the cost of charging in these locations?

  • @tresvecesno7071
    @tresvecesno7071 Год назад

    Veldig interessant for å lade kjøretøyet. Generelt er de gratis, ikke sant?

    • @kenik2023
      @kenik2023 9 месяцев назад +1

      Check taxes in Norway😂

    • @tresvecesno7071
      @tresvecesno7071 9 месяцев назад

      @@kenik2023 I know, but it worth pay taxes when you get that reflect on society, the culture, education, healthcare, happiness, safety and many more things.
      I don't get mad if I have to pay high taxes to me and my family can live good life

  • @u2b608
    @u2b608 2 года назад

    What charging company is most prevalent?

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +4

      Circle K, Recharge, Eviny / BKK, Tesla (open Superchargers)

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Год назад

    Toiletries at these roadside charging spots? I don’t see any … except possibly at the petro stations nearby.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад

      Were you expecting portapotties?

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад

      Most of the fast charging sites have amenities

    • @Nill757
      @Nill757 Год назад

      @@brandenflasch Some of the charging sites looked loaded with amenities and some looked a bit lonely. Maybe I missed in the cuts.

  • @mikebreen2890
    @mikebreen2890 2 года назад +1

    Lots of them, now how many apps, RFID cards, passwords and accounts do I need?

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +2

      There is actually a fair amount of interoperability and roaming

    • @bobsande2463
      @bobsande2463 Год назад

      Elsewhere I added a question along these lines. Where/how does a person get an rfid card? I’ll be getting an ev from a major car rental company this summer.

    • @mikebreen2890
      @mikebreen2890 Год назад +1

      @@bobsande2463 I think Hertz give you e Shell recharge card in the UK, not sure. In any case, the charging situation is ridiculous. "Ooh, found a charger! Oh shit, should have applied for a card 3 weeks ago and put cash on account."
      Pfffft!

    • @bobsande2463
      @bobsande2463 Год назад

      @@mikebreen2890 I'll give the rental company in Norway a call. But your comment illustrates my fear that I will get stumped trying to figure out how to get the charger started and not have a proper device, account, app, etc. Maybe you just tap your credit card and voila it starts. I keep looking for a youtuber to describe the process to prepare to be ready to charge. Many, like Branden, show many details but not how to really be prepared to begin with. Thanks for your response to my post.

  • @xeronimus6759
    @xeronimus6759 4 месяца назад

    invest in a gimbal, you'll feel dizzy while watching it

  • @MrMe1280
    @MrMe1280 2 года назад

    you so far have forgotten to mention how many of those are free to charge

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +2

      none of them.

    • @MrMe1280
      @MrMe1280 2 года назад

      @@brandenflasch well that sucks. I heard they had a bunch of free charges over there. Either way still wish the USA would get with installing more here. I don't have any near me and I live just outside of Chicago.

    • @MichaelEricMenk
      @MichaelEricMenk 2 года назад +4

      @@MrMe1280 no, that does not sucks.
      If it's free, people will use it even if they do not need a charge, blocking for the people that need a charge.
      Nice to se the free chargers dissappear....

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +5

      Exactly. Free charging is not sustainable

    • @asknor
      @asknor 2 года назад +2

      A lot of places with type 2 charging are «free» though, meaning you only pay for parking, which would be the same cost as parking for a fossil car.

  • @Lorwildrose
    @Lorwildrose 7 месяцев назад +1

    It’s almost like they want EV s to work. 😁 wouldn’t that be great in North America?

  • @rafmanansala1
    @rafmanansala1 2 года назад +1

    Come on america get it together 😒

  • @satansshadow2163
    @satansshadow2163 Год назад

    What happens in the Winter

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад

      What do you mean?

    • @satansshadow2163
      @satansshadow2163 Год назад

      @@brandenflasch what is it like in the cold

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад

      @@satansshadow2163 the exact same

    • @satansshadow2163
      @satansshadow2163 Год назад

      @@brandenflasch really? if i look up EV's in winter it says they lose a large portion of range.

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  Год назад

      This video is about charging.

  • @polaris1985
    @polaris1985 2 года назад +2

    Very poor camera handling, half the time we see blurry background, hire a cameraman

    • @brandenflasch
      @brandenflasch  2 года назад +14

      this is a small RUclips channel, not a cable network.

    • @norsenomad
      @norsenomad 2 года назад +3

      @@brandenflasch Your videos are great, your filming and narrating too, but some people just have to nit pick... Here's my attempt at some constructive input, regarding what Kumar said about blurry background: it is not about how you hold the camera, (your camera holding is all good), simply select another Autofocus (AF) Mode for some of the scenes. For example, where you point into the view with your other hand. When you plan the shoot, set the best AF Mode for that type of scene, and I bet the solution is as simple as that. Cause the A7 siii is a fantastic camera, and has a wide range of AF Modes. (I don't have this Sony model, just an RX100 V, but I trust what the most renown photography magazine test/review articles say about the A7 siii). Good work! Keep'em coming! 🇳🇴