Gorgc caught RED HANDED?!? - Not For Broadcast w/ Cap & SVG Episode 11
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- Not For Broadcast Episode 11
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Naughty naughty Mr Gorgc. Has he been caught red handed on stream? What do the guys make of his misdeed? Who are the lock in 100% SVG predictions for Riyadh Masters? How many games have the chaps had on 7.36? Are esports degrees worth the time?
All this and more discussed in the latest Not For Broadcast w/SVG and Cap!
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Can we get some appreciation for the editor? Woooot!
Editor is GOATED. Entire reason I actually watch the videos and don't just listen
You are the editor for sure ... Man its so obvious :DD
@@SammyLame Actually I am the editor 🙂
@@PriscillAAH_love your editing Priscilita ♥
@@PriscillAAH_Priscill aaaa Poggers
Gorgc 46:24
Editor carrying this podcast while old man avery yells at clouds.
Hey, format nerd/enjoyer here. I find a good format gets me much more involved in a tournament. As someone with not much free time, knowing the impact of a result of a match is where I get my joy, because I know I wont be able to set aside time for the entire group stages. Knowing that a teams place may place them into a matchup with x team from the other group is exciting to think about! Was hoping we might get some Swiss format but alas, maybe next time. Been loving that format, and the 4th vs 5th matchups were gonna get to determine the stronger group will be fun too.
So tournaments should use a format which cant even clarify who exactly are #1, #2, #3, etc. seeds going into playoffs, teams getting lucky easier opponents, no clear power seeding into playoffs, essentially compromising the playoffs quality and gives you worse dota as teams dont know who they are facing until the last moment, because people cant set aside time to watch? Group stages purpose is to understand where teams stand and every games matters for power ranking - playoffs is where you have the high stakes games.
Hey. I've had a complete change in life. I was sick of the corporate grind, started doing hobby woodworking which got me into a managerial manufacturing job and I'm slowly transitioning to what will be full time woodworking from home. I'm 41 years old. Career and life changes are always possible, but you have to be comfortable with the idea of being uncomfortable and possibly failing.
I keep getting distracted by the Dota game in the background and have to rewind 😭
This comment made me smile. I hope youre having a good day.
@@leomar8577 Same to you. Glad I could make you smile
Nice production value and excellent podcasting, thank you so much for this
For me, after many years of watching and going to tournaments, this is BY FAR, grade A content. I only found it a couple of weeks ago and look forward to Tues and Thurs every week now. Thank you for the hard work (amazing editor that makes these two dorks look great :) )
Ms Editor was out for blood this episode. I love it.
The new generation bit sticking is prety hilarious
Really enjoyed the discussion on the idea of Esports degrees and taking your career in new directions. Great episode.
It craks me up every time u use that pic of Avery 😂😂
Great thumbnail.
Hey Cap and SVG. Do organizations have people who are constantly scouting for top level pubstars or potential new players? The topson arc showed someone pays attention to the ladder, but for me when OG announced that new team years ago with bzm and atf most of us ‘casual’ viewers had 0 clue who they were. Thank you for the content!
Either their coach or the player itself. bzm and ATF were scouted by Misha
The thing is that these guys are top MMR players, meaning they play against all of these players and know them. Of course after that a coach can analyze replays and evaluate the player, but they already know the top 200 players of each region for sure.
that's quite literally what zai does
Hahahahaha yeah editor doing solid work. Uping hee game each episode. Loved this episode and hope that more questions can be squeezed in. Really value the discussions yall have on it. I think both svg n cap had good points about mid life career transitions. It really is a do what you need to i feel. Question for both SVG and CAP. If lets say dota continues. And is able to have a decently sustainable career. E.g. can maintain avg lifestyle within reason. But another esport comes along where u have the opportunity to dive into and make bigger bucks. Would u pivot?
We're esports guys ofcourse we have complicated formats normal viewers don't understand
Looks like ryan
Drinking game: drink a shot every time cap says "to be able to".
The statistical change of getting a CS degree and getting into esports is much, much higher than getting a esports degree and getting into CS. That should tell you all you need to know.
It's good to see that the answers regarding college were on point. A lot of people get college education wrong.
sometimes its easy to get mood whiplash when you hear SVG madman ranting about stuff and then also give sage advice like in this episode lmao. Good stuff Cap SVG and Tundra
Question for one of your episodes:
In TI9, why was it hard to counter the Anna IO?
Pretty cool of you guys to do this live
i'm pretty sure this is not recorded live. it's a "live premiere", so the video just airs at a specific time. i guess the live chat does add an extra element, but personally i don't like seeing it in my feed and not being able to watch it, i don't like not being able to fast forward - and performance of the live platform on youtube is terrible...
Priscillah's edit's actually carry this podcast so hard lmfao
It’s never too late to go back for an education. There are a lot of good resources and online programs these days. I’m 31 years old and have a wife and baby, and I’m working on a second degree in a different field, and just got a new job related to it. There are some fields that are much harder than others to get into late (like medicine, because of the length of the process, and the cost), but you can do it. You find time for what’s important to you. I work full time, and I come home and do chores and play with and care for the baby until she goes to sleep, and then I spend ~2 hours on schoolwork.
wow they talked about gorp bug abuse, didn't mention that r/dota2 was deleting posts about it though
Hadn't happened at the time of recording
@@CapCasts oh, that checks out. thanks for clarifying. Looking forward to Riyadh casts!
how does cap know that I am nahaz and a redditor?
Ask SVG and Cap!
Why do you think the dota scene never grew competitively in Australia now that it’s one of the last regions with no representation.
Cheers 🇦🇺
Edit: another angle could be why esports are lagging behind in Australia as a whole.
Thanks
This is an oversaturated question, but why is SEA region is so weak despite their competitiveness? It always seems like SEA teams are a step behind other regions like CN and EU when it comes to competing in tournaments.
Less disciplined than other regions
the editor 😝
Ok hear me out: Not for broadcast + We say things + Og's monkeys show crossover in a future lan. I have a dream.
Beastcoast is gonna smash blacklist no doubt, blacklist is gonna disband before they even get ingame at the event
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on the topic of pursue pro vs pursue college, a lot of games already have this but collegiate esports is definitely a thing that dota could (and should) invest into. the tier 2/3 scene of dota is completely unsupported which is a real shame, although there are some cool casual leagues like ad2l/md2l that are mmr restricted
MAN, for the editor to find all-almost-relevant footage is tiring. Keep cooking!
Question for Avery: When you're in an overwhelmed mental state like you were mentioning, as a professional player, what did you do to get out of the funk and what are somethings you may have heard from others? I understand many teams have on-staff therapists for these big tourneys now.
U guys make me laugh 😂😂
I love Avery's reasoning process. Usually something along the lines of: Yeah Falcons would beat Spirit, 100%. 100%. Like you get Amar owning on one of his heroes, and yeah sure Collapse is a best too, and those high stakes situations bring out the best in Spirit. I wouldn't want to be the one going up against Yatoro there. So in conclusion it's pretty obvious that Spirit would win, no question.
ASK for AVERY n CAP:
-In this patch exclusively, what do you think it`s the best role to solo grind mmr?
I`m main pos1 but i feel like what you said about Lou is reflecting somehow in my games, you can't afk farm and then just kill everyone like old days.
W svg take on streamer drama !
If its in the game its fair game to use, you could say the same thing about people playing the obviously OP heros like tiny.
Cap surprised by format? Its the exact same format as last year Riyadh with 2 eliminations added in Playin stage. You even cast games there Cap!
Kuroky needs to retire.
They're telling me not to get an exports degree because they don't want the competition. Just get the degree and move abroad to a country that won't extradite you.
I care about the format!
1:02:00 AYAY
actually, playing on lower mmr is just lower quality games, y'know, it's less enjoyable. practically of course it's easier. but when i imagine games i had when i was 3k mmr lower than now (and i kept losing), it was just not enjoyable, so i couldn't really play in that environment, nobody listens, all play solo, griefers, etc. e.g. when i play with lower rated party, it's not enjoyable to win, bc all that happens in a game is a circus. but when i play in solo mm no parties of my mmr, it's much more enjoyable to win, when the game is more quality, everybody does his stuff. also every mmr bracket has its own micro/macro meta because of what your teammates pick and do in games and which heroes are more fun or more difficult to execute. but i'm not that high mmr ofc, so i might be wrong, but i feel that's my experience over different brackets. immortal players usually remember only immortal games, when these things are usually corrected already and they're in another dimension
I can't think of a more useless degree than esports. Dear lord, please no one ever get an esports degree.
tundra in top4 OmegaLUL😂😂
How do you think AI will impact esports in the future? Next 5 10 years?
Ask Avery who's is his dark horse for rhyiad and TI
Top 4 will be, spirit , falcons, xtreme and betboom cause stats dont lie, if betboom can pass the kryptonite falcons, i think they gonna take the dub cause they beat xtreme hard sometimes
the core of gpk/nightfall/save since ti10 is losing to spirit everytime it matters the most, they have horrible winrate against liquid and falcons so idk about that, in this season they have lost to liquid/falcons everytime they faced them in the playoffs, here is the scenario: betboom is top 3 becasue they met tundra/xtreme/gg then in the lower bracket gg/xtreme beats falcons + spirit and they got to fight betboom in the final and betboom wins
Where Sunsfan and Synderin? 😥
Single elimination is more fun for sports which are built around casual fans. Where the moment to moment drama is more of a draw than the actual gameplay. Dota is all about gameplay, it's much more basketball than soccer.
Thanks for the this video cap and svg, I have question and I will be happy if both of you would discuss it.
I am one of those usless MF you talked about in here that simply want to work in esport scene especially Dota2, just a little bit of my background, right now im in my 4th year of university majioring in international business mangement, like I said I want to be able to contribute to the dota2 proscene.
To put it short and simple, I want to try creating another environment where those that atleast want to give a shot as being a pro can be given a chance, as we know the only way for people to get a shot to play in competitive scene are through:
1. Climb the MMR rank, to reach unbelieveable height then finally get scouted
2. Having connection
However, each of these 2 methods has a huge disadvvantages being: the first one, you need unbelieveable amount of time to invest into the game and competing with actual pros, and in my opinion this way is every individual oriented, because there is no way that people can climb the rank with not soloing every single game. The other method is having connection, this way main problem is simply what if you dont have one ? I know you need to search for the connection, but I just feel like this method have too many flaws.
My question is, are these assumption of mine, do you think its correct ? If yes, can you tell me just based on both of your opinion and imagination what kind of method do you think will be better than these ?
In my humble opinion, creating an environment for those that want to give a shot to became pro is the best one, its still so vague, but Im thinking about an academy, but it needs to be different from the usual ORG Academy, like I said its still so vague, so I dont have clear explanation. I would be really grateful if you can answer this question and even give me some advices, anyway good luck with Riyadh, will try and watch all the games.
falkons gonna win, mark my worts
0 batchesting topson while employed by tundra, pls do your jobs lads, not that hard
I definitely feel like SVG is sleeping on gaimin. i truly believe they will top 4.
As they should, they can't even beat Team Spirit and they are not even playing they're best.
Bring on qojqva as a guest !!!
If your going to bug abuse just do it in unranked
I think in pretty bad taste to bring up this Gorgc drama, but I think SVG handled it well. And it wasn't Gorgc abusing the bug, it was his teammate abusing. he wanted to ban meepo in the pick phase.
Did you watch the replay?
timestamp for when they talked about it
@@zuko9876 46:30
>it wasn't Gorgc abusing the bug
So meepo forced gorgc to pick up two mantas and sell them both for free gold? Just because you give him money doesn't mean he is your friend.
@@zzzzzzz88 he lost his previous game because he didn't pickup and sell a manta and they're playing 4v5