Thrones of Britannia - Is it Worthabuy?
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People complaining that this game is just a reskin of other TW games are totally missing the point, ofc it's a reskin, that is what I want with Total War, I don't want them to move away from a tried and tested formula that works so damn well. I actually don't want them to change much at all, I just want new settings, maps and armies to play with and that is exactly what I got. Total War games are about this kind of stuff, I am not sure what people are complaining about when they say it's a reskin, that is like saying my new car is a reskin of my old one as it's another car.
People are genuinely complaining in the comments that Total War still has battles. Can't win with these people.
Respect your opinion, I just don't understand why we getting this era when we just had a bunch of melee battle era and so close to the Attila era. If they upgraded their engine, like new cars does, and remaster Empire I would have brought it.
Because people are interested in this period of history. This is not even close to the Attila era in terms of geographical powers at play like the remnants of Rome and the hun threat.
I, personally, like this smaller scale for this time period. This era is essentially what defined modern Britain for years to come. It is more than just "melee".
Worth A Buy please have a try with Rome 1 and Medieval 2
no, i am criticizing that the focus is more and more on the battles at the cost of campaign features instead of enhancing both parts of total war.
I love how you get off track and then tell your self off for it. Very entertaining Mack, makes my day.
"I'm not going to list everything that's gone and everything that's new.." That's literally what I am here for.
I realize I am kind of off topic but do anybody know a good website to stream newly released movies online?
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Hi Mack... I'm an Aussie and I visited U.K. for work once. I worked in Derby for 10 days and had 2 days off. I chose to visit York (rather than London) because I wanted to see some proper old history - and I thought it was a really interesting place. Never saw the Harry Potter shop.
Mack, you deserve this like from me just for hating Harry Potter.
watman I don't really see what's so great about Harry Potter, but at the same time I don't really see why it's bad?
hate never deserves a thumbs up
has the "getting offended by everything"-faction arrived?
watman kinda asking for opinion, idk how to word it tho
Jack Harris I meant the other guy.
Mack I love ya, you're the reason that I'm a proper PC gamer today. That's why I've got to say, go play Medieval 2 Total War and get immersed in a proper Total War game.
Don't compromise, we shouldn't accept lazy reskins with fewer and fewer features each year where we have to pay another $60 for the rest of the game as DLC.
Yep I'm waiting for it to hit $20
Another 60$?? It’s 27$man!
DLC??
it is £10 on sale at the moment.
Seriously though, York is lovely
I think one of the greatest challenges with strategy games of this style is how to handle resources. Having an edge in resources over your opponents gives you a huge advantage. As you control more and build up your infrastructure you can field larger armies. Larger armies will flat out crush smaller armies (generally) which allows you to take even more land which increases your income and increases your ability to field even larger armies. At a certain point, you just start snowballing too hard to be stopped.
snowballing has been an issue in total war for a long time
It feels like they've been using the same engine since Shogun 2. I can't stand the squishy melees anymore and I miss the old Rome 1 and Medieval 2 grand campaign systems. The new provincial system is garbage and trade is worthless other than just boosting relations. I've bought enough Rome 2 reskins. I'll wait for a new engine with something different.
Its that floaty, weird, fake collusion detection.
Yeah, everyone's impressed by multiple layers to city battles now, even though they've been a thing in M2 and R1. Arguably better due to less choke points. It's sad how much more fun I have today playing the Warhammer mod for Medieval 2 than I do the new Warhammer, which killed sieges even more.
What's different about the campaign systems?
Agreed. I get much more out of playing a solid RTW mod over anything new to be honest.
Total war needs a kick in de ass. I thought mack would help with that, but nope.
They pretty much have a monopoly on the genre... Mack can't help that, only competition can.
Im certain theres a bit of british bias in his video. Im shocked he doesn't even mention how often they release the practically same games with reskin.
Yet one could argue that all TW games are practically the same game with reskins, without claiming bias.
All? I wouldn't go that far. What about Warhammer? It seems to put a spin on the game enough to not be a reskin. Flying units n all.
In that regard, fair enough. I haven't played the Warhammer games, i'm not into fantasy. But that's a pretty slim margin of difference considering the franchise as a whole.
So, even conceding that, I think my point still stands.
It's on steam for 14. I love this time period I'm going to pick it up. The reviews are bad and I dont know why
Any plans to do a gameplay review of Escape from Tarkov?
Yes soon hopefully
play it offline when you do mate for a few hours learn the maps and exit locations. the gameplay is really good but you need to take the time to learn it to appreciate it. go in like its cod your gonna come out with a serious thumb down lol
GuvnorDread no before you go into a raid you can select to play in offline mode and choose wether to throw the AI in or not. You will not lose your gear when you die but you cant gain anything either, its literally just for practice against the AI or to help you learn the maps. Absolutely invaluable but unfortunately most dont use it and go in blind and that can have a very negative effect on the experience, if you dont use it and go in blind without watching any kind of guides its almost a guaranteed death because you simply wont find your way out, you can imagine this pisses a lot of new players off. But the options are there for you to use and those that use it certainly benefit.
I was in a CS 1.6 clan with a geordie called Mack and I always wonder if it was you.
Mack play Rome 1 and see the difference in game play, music and effort that was put in that game compared to this or any later TW game.
This game is worth buying but for fans of Rome TW this game is not even close effort wise.
Wait for a sale
On sale for 10% off at the moment if you're anticipating it.
Wait for sale, then just buy Medieval 2 lol. Thats the TW game with collision detection.
Wait for a big sale.
+1 That is also why this game isn't 60€
Something really smells fishy here
Agreed. I'll get warhammer2 when it's 50% off.
TW is on the verge of being dangerously simplified. Saga could have been the playground of bold and new ideas, to bring the franchise forwards. Not the case sadly, hope they get their shit together for 3K. Great video, Mack.
Seems they aim to bring the franchise to console. That would be bringing it 'forward', for them.
segmentnext.com/2018/02/03/total-war-saga-thrones-of-britannia-could-arrive-on-consoles/
On the verge...?
Han Lockhart except that only magic is innovation, whilest there exist no abilities / loose formation and the empire / bretons / dwarfs can't even use formations like shield- / spearwall.
Even animations are lazy, ever took the time and watched a cannon reload? You can't, there is no animation for that in whtw.
They did innovate at hiding their poor fake collision detection though. They have the units fight and act like one thing, with individual soldiers dropping by the handfuls at certain "health bar" depletion. While thats piss poor mechanics compared to Rome1 Medieval 2, its freaking amazing compared to Rome 2 Shogun 2.
Acesahn it is sad though, as a fan of tw ( since rome i) and warhammer ( Chaos Army) this game could've been so much more.
Also don't forget that they nearly made Chaos warriors pre order dlc, basically holding a 5th of the basegame hostage.
I hate the Rome 2 engine... its fake collusion detection. They still have fake collusion detection in whatever their using for Total War Warhammer, but they hid it better. Seeing the units move and "pair up" for the combat is sickening.
Acesahn it’s not the Rome 2 engine it’s the Attila engine
i'LL SAVE YOU ALL THE TIME.
NO.
@Worth A Buy Mac.... MAAAAAAAAAC! Get the bells! Theres a sale on AEROSOFT games on STEAM right now! Autobahn Police, Bus driver, Bridge builders and loads of other garbage for you to review! :D :D :D
The only interesting Throne of Britannia is King Arthur's, and he's a fictional character. Pretty obvious that he's not in this game, nor are the other things that make his kingdom interesting, like Merlin, Guinevere, Sir Lancelot, Excalibur, the Holy Grail, witches, dragons, succubi, etc. Definitely not worth a buy.
Look at the units fucking running THROUGH one another! Ugh... how the mighty have fallen. How do people enjoy this game? At least Warhammer hid the fact they couldnt put real collision detection in their game.
I recently bought some old total war games being Rome 1, Medieval 2, and Shogun 2. (I know Shogun 2 isn't actually that old) I love politically resolving conflicts more than fighting battles, well unless it's a huge bunch of forces than I fight them. So them dumbing down the campaign sucks for me don't think I'm getting this one.
This is the best review I have seen about this game... welldone!! This was brilliant and actually convinced me to get it ....
Mack, please start a new channel: "Worth A Visit". You can review interesting places to visit (or not) around the UK.
Very disappointing that you gave this game a worth a buy seal of approval. It's the most uninspiring TW game ever made and it's taken the franchise in the wrong direction. I think the Steam reviews were 82% positive yesterday morning, down to 71% now - I can see it shooting down to around 60% in a couple of weeks. It's OK if you want to sit on the fence and give it a 50/50 but don't be a sheep like all these other reviewers and say this is a worthy TW game.
Too bad there is no tutorial. And they won't even let you replay battles even at the start so you can learn things. And the map and all that happens on it is an enigma. No help in the game, '(yeah, I know it's a tool-tip paradise, but it won't tell you anything useful in terms of what to do).
Best I could do was get massacred though I had managed somehow on y first playthrough to have a more than 1400 army, but some guy I didn't eve see was there and he massacred my army with an even bigger one. I was pissed. My keyboard won't be the same, now.
And I though I was doing good going all to the north trying to attack an enemy. Never even got to really get far.
And millions of things that I don't get happen every turn, nations get destroyed every turn, no, it's a fucking mess, actually.
Oh, and I apparently everyone was pissed because that micro army I raised and that got fucked (just added like 3 units to the only army they gave me at start was too expensive) was costing too much and I had to raise taxes... Though people were pissed even almost from the start for no reason, but when I clicked on the button that told me to do something about it, I never found what action was supposed to calm these people in some settlement or region I don't even know.
That game is the most confusing thing I've ever tried in my entire life. I was even more confused than that time I banged that girl in a mental hospital after I had a mental breakdown (don't even ask).
IMO this is not worth a buy. I saw the pictures of this game on steam, this shit looks exactly like Attila and that was just a rip off from Rome 2. You can see it in the fucking video, the exact same animations from Rome 2 that was released five years ago. CA, get your shit together, you're fucking worse than EA.
Every Total War game i have bought since Med 2 will not play on my rigs & the graphics have to be set to lowest levels & battles still grind to a halt. Do you need a very powerful pc to get this to look ok on a 42 inch screen? Reading comments on here it looks like TW is still broken so best sticking with Med2 mods including Game Of Thrones...
DUDE I JUST SAID IN MY HEAD WHAT YOU STARTED "Thrones of Britannia, is it worth a buyyye?" with that accent :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
reminds me of defender of the crown on the amiga .
I really want to like this game ......but after shogun 2 ,Rome 2 and the barbaric invasion remake Attila... I'm some what don with more of the same bow and arrow battles and tactics this not going to change in the future with the China fantasy title that's coming.... I want to see something new like Victorian total war on the scale of Empire (or bigger )with new units new land and sea tactics for world domination..... and all sorts of Dlc that bring us flash point in the time frame like American civil war or Boer wars ....
fuck was going to make a cod comment but mrNangle beat me too it... all I want is to be rid of this system of gen that rome started and back to medieval 2 style.. 3 units of archers should do it here.. few civ pike units to guard here and really split your army in whatever way you thought would work.. I think mack is getting on if he thinks the reskin and more graphics and less gameplay is what we want.. come on mack.. that's 2 this month your dead wrong about.
Game of Thrones Total War already you say. Just get Medieval 2 and get this www.moddb.com/mods/game-of-thrones
or any of the many submods.
The Seven Kingdoms www.moddb.com/mods/seven-kingdoms-total-warAttila isn't worth it in my opinion as it doesn't have a campaign.
I really enjoy the TW series, playing a lot of Warhammer 1 while I wait for the sequel to come down in price. This one will be a sale buy too if I get it, the battles look really good but the cutting of features makes me think it won't hold my attention so well. As always, thanks for the review man.
Legend of total war does not recommend this game .. Mac doesn't play the games long enough for a proper review, that's why he’s hidden his Steam profile ..!!!!
The new provincial system is not great...shogun 2 is the benchmark...I need my trio of ninjas, metsukes and geishas to end wars with any army before they even begin.
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Sorry to hijack this video with an unrelated comment but will you be doing any more VR reviews of worthy games? Have you tried Beatsaber yet?
they really need to stop with adding retarted portrets to the unit cards cuz im sick of it...just give me the old unit cards like in rome 1 total war where i actually could see how the units look like and which one i need to select, now i have to search for the right one cuz they all look the fukin same ffs !!
What this license needs is Total War : Empire 2.
Just imagine all the possibilities, the immensity of the map and the new kind of gameplay would give Total War a whole new interest for me.
Game of Thrones total war, fuck that would be amazing Mack, I would even buy the sell out super collector deluxe gold edition
Honestly I probably would have gotten this one even if you down thumbed it... Unless you down thumbed it for douchey business practices...
Worth a buy when it's 50% off. Until theres a new engine that goes for future releases.
I suggest others do the same.
Looks AI will once again blob all their units and charge front pikes with horses.
Absolutely. Fork over the goddamn money, CA, get the license, & make TW:GoT already.
too many total war games, time to come with a brand new concept, instead of milking it like EA soccor or cod, or battlefield!,this is nothing more than a old concept in new cloths.. brought nothing new to the gaming industry!, just milking the total war franchise.
TW players prefer the old concept. Just give us new settings and maps and new armies to control and we're fine. Not every title has to bring something new. Do you know how hard it is to come up with a unique thing in gaming? Go ahead, give it a try, present me with a new concept and I'll try not to find a game that hasn't already done that.
Quite a few thumbs up recently, what have you done with the real mack?!
How many factions can you play or do you have to pay 20dollars for another faction like the other ones?
hi mack can you check out amid evil its maid by the same pepole that maid dusk and it is an old school style fps.
Hey mack what's your internet speed's like?
You reported it was too easy as Alfred. What difficulty level were you playing?
Had a choice between this or Battletech this month and Battletech won!
Bloody glad I did as it's ruddy brilliant!
The #1 problem with TW is that the maps are ridiculous and the armies start too far apart and the AI wants to run around in all directions, and moving your own army is a huge chore, and when you are close enough the AI just runs around from behind your setup and all your work was for nothing. Then the rest of the game goes running after the underpowered AI units that run away, or being flanked unless you constantly pause and rearrange. The #2 is the constant AI skirmish mode, where his archers will run away as one like a school of mackerels, the moment your swordsmen reach close enough and where each mackerel is Usain Bolt. Then when you stop chasing and walk away, they start firing again. So it is a complete AI "run around the map and annoy with archers" setup. I kind of hate Total War. That is not how the battles in history went down.
even in this review, even though you do not mention it, you can see the AI either forced into choke points in very rare setups, or you can see the AI chow both ends of your lines. They will not meet in the middle, ever.
Those TW atilla mods are getting better and better....CA is lacking battle engine desperately
I just LOVE watching your vids while having my coffee and breakfast.... best thing in the world!!
GoT? How about LoTR?
Worst Total War game
I don't think i could ever go back to a historical based TW game after playing the two Warhammer games in the series. Once you play TW with dragons, dinosaurs bats and giant spiders it's hard to go back.
Disagree, personal taste of coarse but TWH2 is what made me purchase this game
Mack, There is a Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings 2, should review that even though it is free, also the dlc for the standalone copy of Crusader Kings 2 does add features to the mod. Don't play that ass one Seven Kingdoms, that's just Westeros, and takes place close to right after the building of the wall, just get the mod "A Game of Thrones" also there are several submods for extra bookmarks so you can play at where the show is currently with the "Winds of Winter bookmark tab" Can also play as ANY landed character in Westeros, a few in Essos (All with DLC)
Finally, a game I’ve been waiting for that you approve lol
anyone here hates total war games ?
I played total war rome 2 after watching plenty of tutorials but lost a lot of battles even when I had big advantage in the easiest difficulty possible so deleted after 5 hours
tried shogun 2 but same story deleted twice in short time because I could not get along with it
how can I learn this game ?
i want to love total war games but i always fail XD
@badrech - try and get the original shogun (shogun 1) working or a trickier one to get working is Medieval 1. Rome introduced a different system. The first two were better games and all over easier and more straight forward to understand. Good luck
HOW is this a thumbs up when there are no scottish units in kilts lobbing porridge, irn-bru, buckfast and haggis at tue english?!?!??!??!
Josh Paul 900 years too early for kilts lol.
you vids are hilarious mate, love the newcastle accent.
why cant they just do a Lord of the rings total war. War hammer is good, but no need for 3 of them. i am excited for Sagas though. dont see why everyone s bashing it so much
isn't CA under EA?
EA fucking ruins games, you can see by the amount of bullshit DLC are in total war games now
Worth a Buy is a shill for any title in the ''Total War'' series.
Is mackscorner coming back soon?
He's moveing it to the other corner Rabbit was getting a bit out of hand
Which other corner is that?
Look in the description, it's a new channel
Kyle Gregory thanks
Hey Mack, "The Forest" Just left early access today. Any plans to review it again?
Sounds like they're going back to the mechanics set they had in Atilla, at least as far as generals and such.
Although if you're saying it's too easy, LOL, that's a direct opposite of Atilla, imo the hardest in the series thus far.
Oh well, definitely grabbing this and three kingdoms. I'm glad they haven't decided to put these on console yet because they'd break all the mechanics trying to do so.
I'm glad sieges are back as well. I really like the unit diversity and gameplay in Warhammer, but Holy hell I wish they'd add good sieges to the warhammer titles.
I visited York last year. Heed his advice: it’s dope as fuck
Last 6 games mack has reviewed are worth a buy(thumbs up) . Wow. Waiting for a thumbs down game now because those reviews are the best.
Thank god its a thumbs up, I was hoping it would be good.
Love you guys....looks like the first TW game I may buy since Napoleon. Been boycotting them ever since the fantasy crap warhammer. Yes Harry Potter was a rubbish. I hope they do Medieval 3 so I can beatup the French, Spanish, Welsh, Scots, Irish, the Pope again...all of them basically...
I believe they should tone down on the paired animation fighting just a bit (not remove) and just continue to add as much historical immersion as much as possible. If they do that any TW game will be amazing. Then you have something to reskin and would never matter. Hell I'd love a now a day version. Being able to be the "great American Empire" or oppressed middle East countries, new rising strength iron curtain Russia, secret corporation countries putting presidents in place being able to use intelligence agencies such as CIA KGB or Interpol to manipulate countries bringing a whole new point of view and use to spies. Funding extremist groups being caught creating worldwide diplomatic effects and having religion and multiculturalism a whole different level of issue. However a game like that would get so much controversy. Plus I'm sure creating the ballistic aspect would be hell. Plus explosions you'd need a damn good computer to run it. It'd come out like a strange mix of TW and Civilization V. And my Lord the amount of little dlc side countries you could pump out for that thing....a man can dream
How would this be as an entry point into the Total War Series of games?
I don't recall ever playing one, although a long time ago I loved some similar type of games. I used to love all sorts of games, but once I got on broadband there was a long stretch where the games I played became more limited, I played tons of fps, and of course was majorly addicted to Counter Strike, and then online multiplayer became the thing with Planetside, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Eve Online (this and Counter Strike are the two games I wish I knew how many hours I had played the, it had to be well over 10k hours each.)
So here I sit a couple decades later and I've been more and more into games I never thought I would enjoy, from Ark, Factario, Rimworld, Subnautica, and many others, many of them thanks to your recommendations here on WAB, and I thank you for that, between you, and a couple other RUclipsrs you turned me onto so many smaller games, that I would never have even considered but I've ended up loving them and of course those led me to others of the same/similar type. In fact, when I find myself wanting to try something I don't have, I've been known to just open your WAB playlist with games you've recommended and shopped around on it for something new to play.
what do you mean formations are back, they were never removed
When the siege towers open, why do the soldiers just fucking stand there and take the arrows to the face?
That's to show they're real men, seriously I don't know they could be a bit more snappy getting out
The following game review is a promotion for the tourism industry of York. Also brought to you in part by: Harry Potter.
Remember, Mack mentioned us, for some reason. This video probably increased York's pop. by ten. gj Mack lol.
Did they ever fix the melee system which was broken since Empire because the new engine was only intended for musket warfare? People phasing through each other, only fighting 1 on 1, locked into canned animations instead of fighting like a unit.
Wow... So there are no agents anymore? No ambush battles? Why don’t they just warp right to the end state they want this series to be, two factions that march on a rail guided path towards each other, collide and fight a five minute battle.
That’s hyperbole but seriously why can’t games just be complicated and fiddly sometimes? Streamlining sucks.
MACK
Can we have some rant reviews on those shitty games, just like in the old days? I just love Mack ranting about stuff. It calms me down. But we haven't got any recently. It's all thumbs up. Sad
I agree I fuck'n want GoT: Total War.
This will be a buy once it's cheap in a sale. The AI seems to be a bit stupid - as always - so patches will do this game good. Another good reason to wait. Also because Broketober this year is early, in April / May, too many good games already. :D
will wait for a few months for patches and mods to be made.
As a die hard fan of Total War, this game might be a step in the right direction. The older games all had broken campaigns unless you modded them to be whatever you wanted them to be. This "dumbing down" might actually fix it.
This is NOT a bad game at all, expections were maybe too high but this was supposed to be smaller sage series. Still a good game with recent major patches. And if you fan of Last Kingdom its almost must buy.
Mack, you the man, Well if you like this game for the most part, then must be good. I trust your insight. I have watched all your reviews. When I need a laugh you are the go to. Thank you for your detailed work. I watched how editing is done, man its time and work. You the man||||
I like where their going with this. Personally, I don't care much for all the squabbles in England, but different games highlighting pivotal times in history across all parts of the world is a nice break from warhammer. I'm enjoying my DEI Campaigns in rome 2 quite a bit and three kingdoms sounds exciting even if they cut features u can mod them back in and finally we can play in china.
can confirm: backstabbing is a motherfucker in this game
If this was full price I wouldn't dream of buying it. At £25 I'm half-tempted, but still feel I might as well go back to a previous game I already own, as the experience looks so similar.
Mack i see that you like this one and i can see why but... Its so dumbed down compared to the previous games in the series.. Bad sieges, zero politics, nonexistent diplomacy, almost nothing to build... You are right when you say that everything is streamlined here but its a bad thing mate... Its basically not a game for anyone who played previous games especially those older games in the series ^^
Total war: the game of thrones. Must include Westeros & Essos.
Total War Saga: A Clash of Kings #MakeItHappen
10:12 Which to your mind is the best TW game? Personally I liked Total War: Warhammer II best (though the Bretonnian campaign in the first Total War is my favorite campaign)
Mack you should give a warning if your video is sponsored
even if it is by the York tourist board
Let's not promote York, there are enough tourits as it is and I'm sure that being recently awarded the "Best City to Live in" award or something won't help the housing situation.
OMG Total War Game of Thrones......now I need this in my life.
Mack please revisit Conan Exiles for launch 🚀
G V To be fair it's recent reviews are fairlu positive (At least last I checked)
remember that minecraft-esque survival thing? you said that you will show what happens when that meteor hits. well?
One question Mack. I want a new total war game. Should I get War-hammer 2 or Britannia? and go!
I like them both but I think Warhammer is the best
I would have to agree. I just finished a Dwarf campaign on War-hammer I and watched your review again so I think i am going to get War-hammer II.
Thanks again Mack.
Mack got review copy :D, just strange that publisher takes a risk like that