I had a unique reverse experience with this song. It came out as I had just began chemotherapy for my cancer, and seeing myself as the one to be sick and pass away, consequently leaving my girlfriend with all the pain that remains was a heartbreaking thought. At a time in my life when I was so weathered and exhausted, and then being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, part of me believed death would not be such a bad option. The effort she made to take care of me as I began chemotherapy and her immense demonstrations of love for me inspired me to fight. I couldn't bear the thought of her being in the place of the man in the video, so I decided that I must push on at all costs. Lorna Shore helped me to visualize what being on her side of our relationship during this time must be like for her. Seeing how much my diagnosis and treatments effected her because of her love for me gave me something to cling to.
From Micro: Your testimony is absolutely beautiful. Through all the sorrow, the losses, through the hardships you've been facing lately, you have found a way to keep seeing LIFE where it is. Somehow, cancer appeared as this devastating fire that burned everything around you, and as you were walking around you've been tempted to lay down and stay there. But while you've been laying down on the ground, you've noticed the beauty of the sky again. You've seen that roots kept growing. And that love has never ceased to be directed your way. Even when it felt like your life stopped, even when you thought it would be better to surrender, you have learned to tilt your head on the side, and realized that this desolated picture can look very different when the point of view is changed. It rotates your perspective at 180°c. Life, love, her - they never left you. They have been *challenged*, but they have still been very strong and very real. The only piece it was missing was you. And it is such a beautiful renewal but to hold on to what you can see now not just with your eyes, but with your heart and soul. As you walk through the obstacles and challenges that life has put on your way, I wish you to keep fighting, to keep trying. Cry, scream, laugh, smile, doubt and sing. Experience it all. You are alived, you are loved, and you will kick this cancer out of your life. One day at a time my friend. There's a powerful fire in you that is yet to be extinguished. We'll all be rooting for you here.
I'm in a similar scenario, but on her side of the fence. I can't tell you how terrifying this all is, though I guess I probably don't need to. This has got me so fucked up. I hope you're doing well brother, wherever you are.
I long ago had to remove the Pain Remains opus from my playlists. I listen to music while driving, out on the motorbike, using machinery in my workshop, and to suddenly be crying my eyes out is damned dangerous
This trilogy broke me. I'm not one for deathcore, usually have to be in a specific mood but Lorna Shore changed that. Its insane to me that a deathcore would make me just sob like crazy
Such a weird thing with this band. I do like hard extreme metal but usually not that genre. first time listening.. yeah nice but way to loud for me. 3 times later... fan.
I absolutely love this whole trilogy but the lyric from part one, “But within the expanse, I finally see, a world without you isn’t meant for me.”, hits me the hardest. Also, I’m sure if you reached out to Will, he’d love to do a collab and also whitelist this video for unedited audio lol Thank you so much for reacting to this and I love what you do for strangers and clients alike.
I saw this just because i love lorna shore reactions to this masterpiece of a trilogy. But stayed for all the analysis of it. Ive been struggling with my LDR for these past few months, at the point that we havent talked for days or just very short questions and answers, at the point that she told me she doesnt know if we are still a couple anymore. When i ask for a reason i only get distance and this song kinda resembles that in a way that im not losing someone from passing but i am because of distance building up between and is a really tearing feeling 💔 Thank you for that insight on this song and hopefully you see the remaining 2 parts. it gets way more emotional and shows the different stages of grief
From Micro: Oh friend, I'm so very sorry that you've been experiencing this subtle, somehow silent, but very real and present type of loss. It is absolutely heartbreaking to be in a relationship and at the same time seeing this emotional distance that becomes more and more present, that gets in the way of the possibility to express your love and feeling loved in return. You pour your entire self in a relationship then there are obstacles at play that build up all of these walls. It's hard to feel like you can't control any of it, and that you're somehow losing your own presence in the relationship. It's like you are forced to somehow *witness* something you don't want to happen, and compose with this feeling of not having the possibility to reverse that tendency. I was myself in a long distance relationship at first, with someone who has been now my partner for about 13 yrs. The first 3 years, we were living in separate countries and there were definitely times when it was *challenging* to cope with the distance. Somehow, when you feel like the other person is fading away emotionally, it becomes even more difficult to not be with them physically. It feels as if an opportunity to work on the possible issues *together* is completely missing and removed from you. Because of its nature, it is the kind of relationship that definitely forces us to let go more often, and deal with our uncertainties/fears/doubts sometimes more individually. It's this constant dynamic between distance and closeness, which can be difficult to bear at times. For what it's worth though, it is absolutely possible to overcome these hurdles - even if sometimes it requires for one of the person in the relationship to take some distance and time to figure things out. I hope that, with time, your partner will see in you someone safe that they can come back to when they would feel more ready to talk. But even more, I hope you can find peace in the process, no matter the outcomes of this situation could be. A huge part of relationship building is also about communicating, and if one doesn't want to work on it, it cannot be forced either. There's no doubt that you have been manifesting to your partner that you care about them and would like to improve this situation. May they be willing to do it as well, and for you both to find some closure in times to come. What you are experiencing is indeed very painful, and you deserve peace.
@@HeartSupport yea, i dont know how to describe it. She doesnt talk about her feelings so i cant really understand what is going on. And when i show at least my emotional support for her in bad situations i only get "dont worry about me" or " i can handle myself alone". I want to give her distance to think and process her emotions but im pretty sure its beyond the point of no return. Thank you so much for your kind words and god bless ❤️
From Micro: Yes, it's so hard when the person in front of you doesn't seem to be willing to open up. On your end you want to help because you deeply care, knowing at the same time that it can't work if the help is not welcomed. You can express things the safest/caring way, you can try to show the example, but the decision of opening up remains their own at the end of the day. It sounds like you really have been displaying and expressing the care she needs, but she may have struggles she still has a hard time to talk about - even if it's "just" the very act of letting someone in when she feels vulnerable. You are a caring, supportive partner regardless. I'm sorry that this may leave to an end - it hurts especially when it's not something you can change directly. It sounds that you've been doing your best though, and that is truly beautiful, as well as worth being acknowledged. *You* have been doing what is in your control, and hopefully there could be some peace to find for you in this thought, little by little. Wishing you all the best, friend. :heart:
This trilogy honestly affected me in such a way. Especially the videos. The actor portraying the longing of just wanting to join his love in the afterlife. It takes me back to every time I have had a suicidal thought and I just stop and think about how many people would genuinely be destroyed if I did it. I always heard it was selfish and I never thought of it that way until I became an adult and now I understand it. It’d be selfish of me to hurt my whole family. The biggest thing that gets me to stop and breathe is thinking of my daughter not understanding why I’m not home anymore. I reached a point where I’d rather be miserable than to hurt them. This trilogy is such a strong reminder to me of what I have to live for by applying my own situation and putting my loved ones in his shoes.
You are awesome. All the commenter's, and our favorite RUclips therapist haha. You're all amazing and I appreciate how much you appreciate the music and the significance the lyrics can hold. 🖤 Lorna shore is something truly special
I'm stuck living with my ex for a year lease. I can see her all the time, but she's no longer mine. It's tearing me up inside. I'm sobbing as I listen to this song, feeling like she died yet her existence is just RIGHT THERE, but I can't be a part of it.
Man... I'm really sorry that this is your experience right now. I was in that situation about 7 years ago. I broke the lease. You'll likely look back at this as a time that really shaped you. We'll, I did. I know it hurts, but you can use this friction to make you a stronger person. Remember to have compassion for yourself and your ex, and try to respond in kindness instead of react out of emotion. ❤
From ManekiNeko: That’s so hard, god I can’t imagine how much your heart is hurting. It’s always hard getting over someone, but it must feel so much harder when they’re living in the same space. Is there any opportunity to move elsewhere or in with your family?
Did you decided to keep living together or is your situation such that you can’t move out? My ex and I broke up 3 years ago and we kept living in the same flats. But it was a decision we made together with rules to keep use safe from hurt. The first month/year was really hard. (I started therapy that year as well) Finding/doing thing you like help. Finding people to spend time with besides your ex helps. And being close/friends with your ex helps. When you can talk to her about how you feel can help you. Making sure that both your boundaries are in check is super important. Finding a new partner is important too. Knowing that your ex isn’t the only women out there helps over the grief of the break up.
From EvilGenius: Hey there! I want you to know that I do empathize with the immense emotional pain you're going through right now, even if I do not understand it. It's like a constant ache in your heart, isn't it? Living in such close proximity to someone you shared your life with, and now feeling that emotional chasm between you, can be excruciating. The analogy of feeling like she's still there but just out of reach, as if she's a ghost from your past, is incredibly poignant. It's a heart-wrenching experience to mourn the loss of a relationship while being forced to confront its remnants daily. I want you to acknowledge the strength it takes to express these feelings, even if it's through tears and the solace of a song. Your emotions are real and valid, and it's crucial to allow yourself to grieve this loss. It's okay to mourn the relationship that once was and the person she used to be in your life. During this challenging time, please consider leaning on your support network, friends, or a therapist if available. They can provide a lifeline of understanding and comfort. Remember, healing is a gradual process, and with time, the intensity of these emotions will start to subside, and you'll find your way toward a brighter future. Until then, be kind to yourself and allow yourself to feel and heal at your own pace. You're not alone in this journey. Hopefully this serves as some comfort for you!
Are you aware of the over all concept of the whole Pain Remains album? The concept of the whole album is of a guy that for whatever reason doesn't like living in the real world and starts lucid dreaming. The songs are about how he realizes that he is a "god" in this lucid dream and creates just to create but then realizes that doesn't make him happy. In the end he destroys the world and goes back to the real world. I would imagine that it could be a mental health discussion in itself about trying to escape the real world (I hope that makes sense I'm having a hard time getting points across with my concussion right now.) Also there is a trigger warning on part 2 because the male main character is not dealing well with his wife's death at the end of part 1 and cuts his wrists in front of her casket. (There are two stories going on in the three part trilogy this music video part of. Will's lyrics about the lucid dreaming concept that is throughout the album and the screen play written by their lead guitarist Adam.)
i wish you did all 3 at once there litrally all connected thats why it just endhow it dose thers a full length of them together but i guss this way it keeps others intrested coming back :D
@heartsupport The whole trilogy of Pain Remains struck so close to home for me. I lost both of my parents between 2020 and 2021, not to mention other family members and friends due to either covid, or cancer, or suicide, while also struggling with my own mental health problems with depression, suicidal ideations, and PTSD. Being able to hear the stages of grief in Pain Remains mirrored my own so closely, it was cathartic and let me get those emotions out in a healthier way than I had been doing previously.
From Micro: Hey friend, thank you so much for sharing all of this. It's beautiful to hear about how Pain Remains has been emotional crutch to you, especially as you have been navigating through the brutal waves of grief. It must have been such a heartbreak and shock to lose both your parents and other people you've been sharing your life with, especially during such a short amount of time. Navigating from one loss to another -- it's this kind of season in life that makes you wonder when you're going to have the opportunity to breathe again. Just that, to breathe, to have the possibility to slow down and feel the air in your lungs. But sometimes it surely feels like there's just nothing to anchor ourselves to anymore. It's so hard to compose with the absence of others, especially when they've been holding such a significant part in our life. Feels like losing grip on life most of the time. My heart goes out to you. Knowing that you've been leading your own battles on top of it, I truly want to commend you for holding on and for keeping on trying, even if it certainly feels like chaos most of the time. There are times when reality feels unbearable when it doesn't include our loved ones anymore, and it's okay to express it. Having my share of mental health issues like yours, and having lost a good amount of people in a short amount of time, I deeply relate to what you describe. Just how comforting and reassuring it can be to hear what you feel through music that resonate with your heart. It creates meaning around things that are difficult to describe. It gives this validation that you are not alone. And it's just as you said such a pure outlet to let emotions out. I can't count the amount of times I've had ugly cries while listening to music I would connect with - and there *is* something special when it reveals all the subtle layers of emotions surrounding grief. Even more in a world where losses and grief are difficult to talk about... It's challenging to find people (1) willing to listen, but also (2) able to. It must have felt for you like being caught in the middle of a storm ever since the whole covid outbreak happened. When reality becomes so brutal, we need time to process, mourn, and shed all the tears that are needed. I hope for you that you continue to let these emotions out, that you keep letting yourself feel as necessary, and that you seek support as well if you ever feel like walking on a fine line with your suicidal thoughts. I know it's a tough fight, one that doesn't say its name and remains invisible to most -- but you are so worth that fight, my friend, and by naming these just like you did here, you are owning more power over it. There are still so many roots to let grow, contemplate and support in this journey of yours. Roots that will give room for some beautiful flowers to grow. Yours, but also under the bright light of the ones you mourn. Even if they are not physically present anymore, they keep on living through this loving heart of yours. :heart:
@@HeartSupport Thank you so much, reading this got me a bit choked up. Even my closest friends and family don't...I can't say they don't care or don't understand, but maybe don't acknowledge, perhaps is the best way of putting it. They'll acknowledge when I fumble but not really the strength required to function some days.
From Micro: Your daughter is so lucky to have such a strong parent as you! And by strong, I do mean someone who embraces both sides of it - the good days when everything feels natural, and the bad days when the highest need is to huddle under a soft blanket and focus on self-care. You are not running away from your own vulnerability, but you also don't let it take over everything, which is truly beautiful. I'm so thankful for your willingness to open up and share here. Sometimes it feels easier to do it with strangers online - and that's okay! People closest to us know us differently, and sometimes their ability to be present or to understand is filtered by their own views and expectations. As you said, it doesn't mean they don't care. It's just that there is a right time and place for everything. :heart:
You should react to whispers of your death by counterparts. It’s not nearly as emotional as this song but it definitely still hits you in the feels. The song was originally written about the lead vocalists cat but could definitely apply to a person. It’s about someone’s loved one who has cancer and the lyrics are very broken hearted and are saying I wish I was the one dying not you because I can’t live without you. It’s such a good song!
Great trilogy, very heartfelt lyrics and exceptional emotion of gentle issues convied over "death core" due to beautify writing, playing, composition, musicianship and vocals. When I was younger I was so touched by Replica by Fear Factory due to the lyrics and not so much of the meaning of the song and how it made me fell in my family dynamic.
The literal meaning of the lyrics do not match the video but they certainly rhyme. People find the trilogy to be sad. Especially the video. I disagree. I lost my fiance 5 years ago. The love of my way too long life. She didn't die thankfully, but it feels like it because she is 10 time zones away. I have been depressed, for what is now almost 30 years with no relief. This was it. My sister decided I was a danger to myself, and took me to her home across the state. I missed my window. It is weird, every day I yearn for being unalive, but I have to be in a certain mindset to do it. I haven't been since, even though ideation still remains. The guy in the video did the right thing in my estimation. I have suffered through 5 years of pain, emptiness, cold, loneliness, and misery with no relief in sight. Since I am nothing, I guess I deserve to live decades longer alone and in pain, because that is apparently better than peace. Insert the tagline of Pet Semetary here.
From Lisalovesfeathers: I am so incredibly sorry for your loss friend, I seriously cannot imagine what you went through and the heartache you have felt. You are loved. x
From crazytrain116: Absolutely agree with this. Pain Remains is a trilogy that hits in every which way no matter and encompasses death and loss so emotionally. August Burns Red Ghosts was another song for me that hit home personally.
From ThriceTheThird: Loss of a loved one is one of the hardest things. Especially a parent. I lost my dad a couple years ago and the pain is still fresh for me too. Stay strong friend. <3
From jbro: As with Thrice, I also lost my dad a few years ago. Songs themselves can already be so captivating, but sometimes videos definitely provoke an even fresher reaction from the emotions. Hope the feedback from Taylor was a helpful light and encouragement! You're loved and not alone :heart:
I lost my fiancé to suicide on Dec 2, 2023. I liked this trilogy before that happened but now it is so bittersweet. I have sobbed to it countless times in the past weeks. @heartsupport
From ThriceTheThird: @thecannibal8108 Sometimes I think music helps us let out some of the pent up feelings and emotions that we have been bottling up inside. Losing someone you are so close to is an unimaginably painful life event. I also think that sharing with people is another great form of relief. As long as they are quality people, and in a safe space. If you ever feel you need/want to share more. Please feel free to do so. <3
From NateTriesAgain: @thecannibal8108 Damn. I am so sorry for your loss, friend. It is the worst feeling in the world - it is like living in a nightmare. I'm sure there are moments when your reality has been worse than the nightmare. That there have been moments of deep gut-wrenching sadness, but also moments of numbness - where it is just all too much, and your heart turns off because you just can't take it, and you go through life, and it feels like you're reaching through rubber gloves...you just can't feel anything, just the general outline of things and the fact that something's there. Relationships after something traumatic like this are so hard because no one can feel what you're feeling, no one can know the depth of your loss, it just feels like critically and utterly *alone*. You are without your person. Your life and the path you were on has been brutally severed. And it's hard to just...pick up the next day and "keep going"...to know where you are going...to feel like life is real without them. I'm so sorry friend. I can't imagine the depth of sorrow and pain you have been going through.
From Micro: @thecannibal8108 I'm so sorry for your loss, friend. This may sound dull as there is not enough or appropriate words to convey the pain of losing the very person who holds such a special place in your heart. Still, my heart goes out to you as you feel their absence and mourn what could have been. What you are going through is unfair, heartbreaking, and I can only imagine how much you must have been trying to rewrite the story in your mind or think about all the "what if's" imaginable. It's such a shock to lose someone you love in such a brutal, sudden way. It's hard to wake up in the morning facing this reality, and being forced somehow to figure out how your own path could unfold from there. It's not how it should have been, it's not how it was supposed to be. I hope that, somehow, the tears can be an asset in helping you breathe deeper at times, especially when it feels quite impossible to catch your breath again. Feel everything that needs to be felt, without any judgment, as there is no wrong way to be affected by your loss. It must feel like being full of an unbearable emptiness within and surrounded by silence all around. I'm so sorry. Sending a huge ton of hugs and love your way. We are in this with you. :heart:
I love this song but it kills me every time I see this video. My wife and I are still young but in the back of my mind I know that some day one of us will probably have to watch the other die and I really don't know how I'm ever going to handle that.
From Micro: I hear you on that. Gosh it's so intimidating and frightening to have this consciousness of our finiteness, and to think about it when it comes to the people we share our life with...Your significant other is life ally, someone who gets to learn to know you in ways no one else will, someone you don't need to wear any mask with... It's a very special type of bond and authenticity. It's so precious, so strong, yet thinking about the inevitable time of when one would disappear, makes it seem so fragile suddenly. My partner and I have just reached our 13 yrs together, and to be honest the thought you have, as well as the fears that go with it, is something that often strikes me. I used to brush that thought off quickly, but somehow it's still there, no matter what. Just the thought of knowing that one day one would have to face the death of the other feels unbearable. It feels so distant - like it's about another life, some kind of bad nightmare, but not something that would happen right here in this life. Sigh. It's both a curse and a privilege, isn't it? To have that capacity of awareness, as human beings. A curse because it feels deeply frightening and paralyzing. Yet at the same time it holds power for movement - towards more love, more affection, more care, more *intention* in the time we spend with our significant other. When you think about it, there is also something absolutely beautiful and astonishing in the fact that you got to meet your wife and that you *do* share this very life together. What were the odds? Just pure magic and beauty. And somehow, maybe there's comfort to find in that. In cherishing and honoring the present moment with them, as much as possible, and especially because we never know what tomorrow will be made of. Oftentimes, when I fear the possibility of death and loss, I try to remind myself that it can also be seen as an invitation for more presence, and to live more intentionally - especially in connection with others. There is something beautiful in not taking anything or anyone for granted, and embracing the beauty that *is*, right now, in the present moment. After all, when I look at my partner, I also feel like his smile is an expression of an eternity. It removes the fears, the uncertainties, and ground me in the present - where we belong. <3
Returning to the dating scene has been nothing short of pain. As a short man with a low wage job I feel very much not wanted even though I feel like I live a life I want to. I have hobbies friends and I do all the things I want to but finding a partner to fill out that small void just seems very hard to do. Ghosting and very hollow conversations with some I pursue are very demotivating and the dates I go to just don't work out.
From ManekiNeko: It’s certainly hard opening up yourself to people to feel like there’s disappointment and heartache at the end of it. I’m so glad to hear that you’re living life as you want because changing for people means they don’t get to experience the real and genuine you
From EvilGenius: Hello there, friend! I’m truly sorry to hear that you’ve been experiencing such a challenging time in the dating scene. It takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there, and it’s understandable that you’re feeling discouraged. It’s important to remember that your worth is not determined by your height or your job. You seem to have a fulfilling life with hobbies and friends, which is fantastic! Dating can indeed be tough, with its fair share of disappointments. Ghosting and shallow conversations can be disheartening, but please know that these experiences are not a reflection of your value as a person. It’s often a result of the other person’s issues or circumstances. Finding the right partner can take time, but it’s worth being patient. Continue to focus on the things that make you happy and confident. When you do meet someone who appreciates you for who you are, it will be all the more special. In the meantime, remember that you’re not alone in facing these challenges, and there are support networks and communities out there to help you navigate this journey. Keep your chin up, and I truly hope you find the connection you’re seeking. Take good care of yourself!
From Micro: So hard to push yourself out there and muster the strength of navigating the dating scene. There's so many outcomes there and relational processes that can be daunting and discouraging. It takes a toll on your soul, and it makes sense to feel tired of hollow and superficial conversations. This is about a deep and personal need, and having it challenged over and over can lead you to question yourself, or even feeling like you just wouldn't fit. I can only imagine how the repeated deception can lead to questioning yourself, or even questioning your dream/expectations. Somehow, ghosting may be part of the process but the culture could be different, as it doesn't leave much space for closure. It's like being confronted to multiple hurts over and over - which simply piles up in the long run. Even if the scars are manageable at first, the accumulation makes it bigger and more impactful. My heart goes out to you as you navigate these fluctuations and sudden changes in the interactions you have through this process. I think it takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there, and that is something to truly celebrate and be proud of in itself. I hope that, with time and perseverance, you will find your person. The one that will see you for who you are, and loves you because you are you. You deserve to have the possibility to give and receive this type of love - and you are without a doubt doing what's necessary for it. For what it's worth from a stranger on the internet - I'm rooting for you.
I"m definitely a victim of ghosting. It has happened so much that my mental health dropped alot and my depression has increased because of it. And also my trust as well as significantly dropped and i feel likei just can't trust anyone anymore when it comes to friendships. It makes me feel incredibly hopeless and it's not something i ever wanted to experience but here we are. Just even one friend will be enough for me that i can talk to and connect with is enough for me but it just seems hopeless
From ManekiNeko: I’m extremely sorry that there has been this distance between your friends. Their actions do not dictate your worth and your value in the world and in other’s lives. I know it’s so hard because you don’t have answers. If you ever feel you need to talk more and share more. Or even if you feel like you want to be a part of a community, I’d like to welcome you to join the forum at forum.heartsupport.com
From Micro: Being ghosted is truly an awful experience to go through. Especially as you've been experiencing this not just once but multiple times. At some point it gets hard to not doubt yourself in this situation, to not wonder what you could have done wrong and why people keep pushing you away. I can only imagine all the what if questions you may have asked yourself, and the torment that this questions has created over time. It makes completely sense to feel like it has affected your mental-health and overall well-being, worsening your depression at the same time. Ghosting is this awful type of abandonment that leaves you with your own imagination, fears and worries. It's hard to not think about the worst or to not accuse ourselves of not being enough [insert anything here]. It just leaves us wounded and forced to deal with it as much as we can. It's so hard to not have even just a sense of explaination and closure - but to have to create it ourselves. My heart really goes out to you. It also makes sense to feel like your sense of trust has been completely shaken. You've been disappointed, hurt and felt betrayed by people you were close to. Having that level of connection being suddenly broken just makes you want to retreat away from everything and everyone. I know it does for me... it triggers some kind of urge to withdraw and stop giving others a chance, so that *at least* I feel like having some sense of control and safety. I may not control or predict others behaviors, but I can decide to cut off the roots of what ends up being hurtful... Trust feeling like being such a big piece of it. But on the other side it feels like such a curse as you end up isolating yourself, and prventing yourself from developing again meaningful connections. Trusting others with ourselves feels like such a gambling game sometimes, and when people ghost you, you just don't want to simply sit there and take the punches over and over... you want to have a say on it, share your voice, show that you EXIST and can't be treated like a disposable object. Through it all, I hope you can give yourself as much grace as possible, because regardless of the context with the people who ghosted you, the way they responded to the problem was *their* decision, but not the reflection of your worth. It's also not indicating how your relationships are going to be in the future, but to find some sense of restoration within takes time, and it's okay to take as much time as *you* need. I'm rooting for you.
From toastaintbad: Hi HeartSupport_Fans, I'm so sorry for you loss. I hope you feeling okay. I just lost my loved one this year. I totally understand how you feel. It's okay if take day or months or a year to grief. You have the right to cry when you lose someone that you loved. In heaven, your dad will always will be proud of what you accomplish in life. He doesn't want you to ever feel sad or be in a dark place. I'm here to support you if you need help! I hope some day you found peace with your father.
I lost my dad 2 1/2 years ago. I thought I'd collapse from the weight of it. I'm so sorry. You won't ever FULLY recover, but the pain will ease little by little. Music has been helping me immensely. So has therapy. I don't know what your views are about life after death. I don't know what my OWN views are. I finally figured that I'm his legacy... Even if only on a cellular level, he's with me - in genes, DNA & even personality traits. I hope that you're hanging in. And just know that you're not alone in that pain.
From Micro: Oh friend, I'm sorry you lost your dad. He must have been such a pillar into your life, and there is no doubt that being forced to compose with his absence must feel purely unbearable. It feels so unfair to share life with someone, to love them and care for them so very deeply, then to reach a point of having to keep going without them by your side. Even though death is a part of life, knowing it doesn't make it less hurtful once it hits us personally. There is something deeply shocking and confusing when it comes to feeling the void that one has left after being gone. I personally don't know if we can fully recover from it. To me, grief keeps hitting in waves - something unexpected, sometimes felt before it even takes over. Sometimes it hurts as if it was the very first time, sometimes it hurts as if it was the thousandth time. Time helps - even though it doesn't heal. The wound remains, but what we do learn is how to compose and live with it. How to give it room so it doesn't go unnoticed, but also doesn't prevent us from fully living our present life. There are times now when I am still stuck in the past, with the people I had to leave there, but there are also times when I manage to invite them into my present life and embrace what is. It still feels unfair, but not everything feels like a curse, or as if life itself was an undeserved gift that I had to deal with. Grief is so hard to exist with, although there is ultimately no right or wrong way to mourn the ones we miss with all our heart. If you need to cry, my friend, it's okay to let the tears be. If you need to scream, scream. If you need to share stories about your dad and good memories you have of him, please feel welcomed to do so. If you feel angry, that's a completely valid emotion too. If you need to seek more regular help/support to talk about it, to talk about how you feel, then there is no shame in doing that either. The love you have for your dad is very strong, very real, very present. Not even death will ever take that away from you or him. There is - and will always be - a special bond that unites you. :heart:
Loved these lorna reactions. On the other side of the spectrum, maybe check out Electric Callboy. They make people happy. (we got the moves / Spaceman / techno train)
When i've heard this song for the first time (the 3 parts) It broke me. At that time i was going thru a break up, and i felt like if the other person was dead, but it was worst because i've knew she was out there, literally she's out of my reach but not from my sight. It was a hard time, but at the end i accepted the fact that i never going to find someone like her, cause every human being is different. So maybe i find someone new, but not trying to fill the whole the other person left in me but to love her without any expectation, just because i feel that love. @heartsupport .
Pretty some right now homeless just lost my home working 15 hr days…..just so alone man…sitting in the side of my work…I know I matter but my brain is a powerful thing. I hate it…
From OmarM: @justinott2888 I'm so sorry you're going through this. It sounds like you're facing a lot right now, it's difficult to be working so hard and still feel like you're barely holding on. Being alone in this type of situation only makes it harder. I know it isn't much, but I am here to listen. You do matter and what you go through also matters. It's ok to hate it, it's ok to feel frustrated and overwhelmed, you're doing your best in a difficult situation and this takes strength, even if it doesn't feel like it right now.
@@HeartSupport thanks…idk I guess music is just so powerful. Just helps to watch reactions of other people as well to know they feel the same about certain songs
From Micro: @justinott2888 Man, I'm sorry you've been facing such obstacles friend. It must feel so disheartening to put so much of your time and energy into making a living, yet to be on the edge of losing your home regardless. It's like being caught in a cycle where you try and try but the results don't align with all your efforts and willingness to keep on trying... which is so frustrating. And exhausting too. To feel like what you do would almost be in vain. Your mind knows rationally that it's not, but when your heart is waiting for what you long and fight for for over and over, you also start to feeling the toll it takes on you. In the midst of this situatoin, your discouraging makes completely sense. Especially if you've been trying to fight for yourself essentially on your own. It's hard to keep one foot in front of the other when there isn't someone by our side who would try to remind us the things we need during moments of doubt. Who would encourage us and bring *hope* when everything around us make us feel helpless. Somehow, you have found that 'person' through this community here. By sharing here, you are allowing this connection to exist with people who will read and interact with you. Even if it's online, and even if we don't personally know you here, rest assured that we see you and we are rooting for you. From here, what I see is someone who is very courageous in the midst of unwanted adversity. Your mind might try to convince you otherwise sometimes, but there is no doubt that there is fierce fire in you that is not going to let these struggles get the best of you. I see someone who is braving the helplessness by opening up about their situation and how they feel. It might not change everything, but it's part of ensuring that you don't stay alone during this rough season of your life. If you have time and would like to have a volunteer peer supporter for a year - ie. a friend by your side who would listen to you and meet online -, maybe our mentorship program could be of interest? It's especially during these moments of vulnerability that we need allies by your side, and I would surely wish that for you. If you'd like, our webpage with more info on this program is available here: heartsupport.com/bts - it might take time to get matched with someone after you sign up, but maybe it could add just a bit of connection and needed support to walk through this rough time. :heart: -Marie-Anne
I‘m getting ghosted right now again. It‘s not the first time by this person. But she use her phone really rarely. Mostly we see each other on social events here and than the chemicals are all good. But after we parted ways it‘s like I don’t even exist sometimes
From ManekiNeko: I’m sorry that it feels distant with your friend at times. I know sometimes I’m not always the best at responding to people in a timely manner and at times my friends just send through a “hey thinking of you” text. It’s always so lovely to be reminded of that and it encourages me that if I haven’t heard from someone in a while it’s okay to just drop a line.
From EvilGenius: Hi Friend. First of all, I sympathise with you in regards to being left suddenly, especially given that it isn’t the first time this has happened to you. However I also see it on the other side, in that there is always a reason for someone becoming distant. Perhaps the person is struggling mentally, or maybe things were just getting too much and they needed a break. Whatever their reasoning is, it’s valid. You should try to talk to them after a few days of giving them space to see if you can deal with any issues they may have. I’m sorry to hear this is causing you to feel like you don’t exist, but I can assure you, you are loved and cared about by so many. Keep your head up!
From Mystrose: Hi friend, this is a very hard situation to be in and I'm sorry you're struggling with not talking to your friend as often as you'd like. I have issues with that too and I can relate to you on some level. I would encourage you to talk to your friend and let them know how you're feeling. They might not even realize that the length in between the time you talk is too long for you. I'm glad you do get to interact on social events sometimes and it looks like everything is fine when that happens. That's really good!
From Lisalovesfeathers: Hi, Thanks for posting, I am sorry that you are struggling in your friendship, Have you ever just spoken to your friend about how your friendship works? The reason I ask is because its difficult for someone to be available to another all the time so being patient with eachother is a must, we have our friends and we have our lives outside of our friends and that is ok however it is also ok to communicate that you struggle with that feeling of abandonment when your friend is not in contact, let them know that this is how you feel and perhaps you can come to an agreement to stop that from happening. relationships all have to be balanced and that comes with communication. See what you can do. Best of luck. x
From Micro: So hard to feel like expectations are not adjusted on both ends, that you care about someone and appreciate them but don't get to connect with them as much as you'd like to. From what you have shared, it sounds like this is likely to be out of habit - not using her phone - and not intentionally malicious or meant to hurt you, but it *does* hurt as a result, and that is completely understandable. It feels as if you're so willing to pour your heart into this friendship/relationship, but that there is no reciprocity at play - or at least, under specific circumstances only. It's frustrating when it seems to be the same pattern repeating over and over. Through all of this, I hope you and her can have some time to discuss about this together. At many times, relationships require open communication even about *how* we communicate with one another, as misunderstandings or frustration can build up silently. Hopefully, with some clarification and proactive communication, you and her could find some middle ground in order to communicate in connect without having to change your habits too much, and for both to find joy in the relationship itself. :orange_heart:
Try again! ruclips.net/video/WH3BOx1ppk4/видео.html It needs to be the entire trilogy! The one Im linking is with subtitles. It is seriously a masterpiece Listening to this for the first time, was the first time I felt grief after my mothers death, a couple of years ago (I was taking a rather large dosis of anti-depressants at the time of her death, so I didnt feel a damn thing).
I deleted Facebook because I found it difficult to see my ex-girlfriend getting married. We had a history in high school where I was her type, and she has always been attractive, even appearing on TV in Chicago and the Food Channel. I wanna die now, I read what I wrote it made me pathetic.
From HI_ImHappy: @andrewbrumagen3479 What you are feeling is a very normal human emotion and is by no means pathetic at all. Feeling hurt and betrayed by someone even though they objectively did nothing wrong adds guilt to the concoction. I can't imagine that it's enjoyable in the least. Unfortunately, people move on and have their own lives, and as much as we want things to stay the same, we can't, and that's okay. I think deleting Facebook is a reasonable response, and if that helps you, then you should do it, but I don't think you should sit with these negative feelings forever. Instead, you should focus on your own life and what makes you happy. You are not pathetic, I promise.
@@HeartSupport it was my fuck up. It was over 30 years ago and I got married and then got divorced and I have kids so she is 50 now but she is quite beautiful. Fuck I'm old as fuck. Sorry I swear a lot.
From Riri: @andrewbrumagen3479 Hi there, It's hard to let go of someone who meant a lot to us. When we are taken from the ending we were hoping to have with them, continuing to add memories to this life together, but unfortunately it happens that we can't be with those people anymore. And just seeing them moving forward, and it feels like we didn't mean much to them, when we still are stuck trying to heal ourselves from this break up. Then it adds the social media that still shows us their life events, and it hurts. It hurts because even if we want, we get those flashbacks and emotions regarding what we lived together and now we are forced somehow to see it. I think you did a good decision by deleting Facebook, in this way you won't have contact with her anymore and most probably it will make it easier to move forward, and to make your own love story too, you deserve to write new chapters that are worth remembering and be kept close to your heart. Feeling so much, and thinking now about why she moved on, and how she moved on, can come with this heavy feeling of wanting to die and disappear, to not feel all these emotions anymore, to not face them, but slowly it will pass, it's a lot of intensity now because it's so recent and with time it will be less and less. It can be scary to love again, but loving someone comes with the risk of suffering, but what is life if we won't try to love anymore because our past keeps us stuck. I hope that you will find easier each day to get over this situation and all the emotions that came with it. Hold fast!
Also, the video is not what the song is about. You should go read the lyrics to the album. It's a great concept album, but only minor-ly related to the video.
I had a unique reverse experience with this song. It came out as I had just began chemotherapy for my cancer, and seeing myself as the one to be sick and pass away, consequently leaving my girlfriend with all the pain that remains was a heartbreaking thought. At a time in my life when I was so weathered and exhausted, and then being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, part of me believed death would not be such a bad option. The effort she made to take care of me as I began chemotherapy and her immense demonstrations of love for me inspired me to fight. I couldn't bear the thought of her being in the place of the man in the video, so I decided that I must push on at all costs. Lorna Shore helped me to visualize what being on her side of our relationship during this time must be like for her. Seeing how much my diagnosis and treatments effected her because of her love for me gave me something to cling to.
From Micro: Your testimony is absolutely beautiful. Through all the sorrow, the losses, through the hardships you've been facing lately, you have found a way to keep seeing LIFE where it is. Somehow, cancer appeared as this devastating fire that burned everything around you, and as you were walking around you've been tempted to lay down and stay there. But while you've been laying down on the ground, you've noticed the beauty of the sky again. You've seen that roots kept growing. And that love has never ceased to be directed your way. Even when it felt like your life stopped, even when you thought it would be better to surrender, you have learned to tilt your head on the side, and realized that this desolated picture can look very different when the point of view is changed. It rotates your perspective at 180°c. Life, love, her - they never left you. They have been *challenged*, but they have still been very strong and very real. The only piece it was missing was you. And it is such a beautiful renewal but to hold on to what you can see now not just with your eyes, but with your heart and soul.
As you walk through the obstacles and challenges that life has put on your way, I wish you to keep fighting, to keep trying. Cry, scream, laugh, smile, doubt and sing. Experience it all. You are alived, you are loved, and you will kick this cancer out of your life. One day at a time my friend. There's a powerful fire in you that is yet to be extinguished. We'll all be rooting for you here.
You've got me crying all over again. What a beautiful story. I'm happy that you fought & that you're still here. I hope that you're doing well.
From tarainutah: That's a beautiful insight to have. Thank you for sharing this. <3
Sad to see I wasn't the only one, I hope you're still around and doing well
I'm in a similar scenario, but on her side of the fence. I can't tell you how terrifying this all is, though I guess I probably don't need to. This has got me so fucked up. I hope you're doing well brother, wherever you are.
"A world without you isn't meant for me" - Every... damn... time...
I long ago had to remove the Pain Remains opus from my playlists. I listen to music while driving, out on the motorbike, using machinery in my workshop, and to suddenly be crying my eyes out is damned dangerous
feel you
Definitely check out the other 2 parts. The entire story is great
I don't think they will because it shows suicide
I don't think they will because it shows self termination
All 3 parts are connected. They're incredible
I was going to comment that: 6:45 is not the end!
This trilogy broke me. I'm not one for deathcore, usually have to be in a specific mood but Lorna Shore changed that. Its insane to me that a deathcore would make me just sob like crazy
Such a weird thing with this band. I do like hard extreme metal but usually not that genre. first time listening.. yeah nice but way to loud for me. 3 times later... fan.
@@themplar that's because they are blackened symphonic/melodic deathcore, not pure deathcore.
I absolutely love this whole trilogy but the lyric from part one, “But within the expanse, I finally see, a world without you isn’t meant for me.”, hits me the hardest. Also, I’m sure if you reached out to Will, he’d love to do a collab and also whitelist this video for unedited audio lol Thank you so much for reacting to this and I love what you do for strangers and clients alike.
This first part of the trilogy is the most powerful metal ballad I've ever heard in my life
When they played this song live it hit me sooo hard.
Goosebumps al over the place en almost tears in my eyes
I saw this just because i love lorna shore reactions to this masterpiece of a trilogy. But stayed for all the analysis of it. Ive been struggling with my LDR for these past few months, at the point that we havent talked for days or just very short questions and answers, at the point that she told me she doesnt know if we are still a couple anymore. When i ask for a reason i only get distance and this song kinda resembles that in a way that im not losing someone from passing but i am because of distance building up between and is a really tearing feeling 💔 Thank you for that insight on this song and hopefully you see the remaining 2 parts. it gets way more emotional and shows the different stages of grief
From Micro: Oh friend, I'm so very sorry that you've been experiencing this subtle, somehow silent, but very real and present type of loss. It is absolutely heartbreaking to be in a relationship and at the same time seeing this emotional distance that becomes more and more present, that gets in the way of the possibility to express your love and feeling loved in return. You pour your entire self in a relationship then there are obstacles at play that build up all of these walls. It's hard to feel like you can't control any of it, and that you're somehow losing your own presence in the relationship. It's like you are forced to somehow *witness* something you don't want to happen, and compose with this feeling of not having the possibility to reverse that tendency.
I was myself in a long distance relationship at first, with someone who has been now my partner for about 13 yrs. The first 3 years, we were living in separate countries and there were definitely times when it was *challenging* to cope with the distance. Somehow, when you feel like the other person is fading away emotionally, it becomes even more difficult to not be with them physically. It feels as if an opportunity to work on the possible issues *together* is completely missing and removed from you. Because of its nature, it is the kind of relationship that definitely forces us to let go more often, and deal with our uncertainties/fears/doubts sometimes more individually. It's this constant dynamic between distance and closeness, which can be difficult to bear at times. For what it's worth though, it is absolutely possible to overcome these hurdles - even if sometimes it requires for one of the person in the relationship to take some distance and time to figure things out.
I hope that, with time, your partner will see in you someone safe that they can come back to when they would feel more ready to talk. But even more, I hope you can find peace in the process, no matter the outcomes of this situation could be. A huge part of relationship building is also about communicating, and if one doesn't want to work on it, it cannot be forced either. There's no doubt that you have been manifesting to your partner that you care about them and would like to improve this situation. May they be willing to do it as well, and for you both to find some closure in times to come. What you are experiencing is indeed very painful, and you deserve peace.
@@HeartSupport yea, i dont know how to describe it. She doesnt talk about her feelings so i cant really understand what is going on. And when i show at least my emotional support for her in bad situations i only get "dont worry about me" or " i can handle myself alone". I want to give her distance to think and process her emotions but im pretty sure its beyond the point of no return. Thank you so much for your kind words and god bless ❤️
From Micro: Yes, it's so hard when the person in front of you doesn't seem to be willing to open up. On your end you want to help because you deeply care, knowing at the same time that it can't work if the help is not welcomed. You can express things the safest/caring way, you can try to show the example, but the decision of opening up remains their own at the end of the day. It sounds like you really have been displaying and expressing the care she needs, but she may have struggles she still has a hard time to talk about - even if it's "just" the very act of letting someone in when she feels vulnerable. You are a caring, supportive partner regardless. I'm sorry that this may leave to an end - it hurts especially when it's not something you can change directly. It sounds that you've been doing your best though, and that is truly beautiful, as well as worth being acknowledged. *You* have been doing what is in your control, and hopefully there could be some peace to find for you in this thought, little by little. Wishing you all the best, friend. :heart:
@@HeartSupport Thank you! My best wishes to you as well and to all that help others with their struggles ❤️
When will’s vocals come in, I get goosebumps every time.
This trilogy honestly affected me in such a way. Especially the videos. The actor portraying the longing of just wanting to join his love in the afterlife. It takes me back to every time I have had a suicidal thought and I just stop and think about how many people would genuinely be destroyed if I did it. I always heard it was selfish and I never thought of it that way until I became an adult and now I understand it. It’d be selfish of me to hurt my whole family. The biggest thing that gets me to stop and breathe is thinking of my daughter not understanding why I’m not home anymore. I reached a point where I’d rather be miserable than to hurt them. This trilogy is such a strong reminder to me of what I have to live for by applying my own situation and putting my loved ones in his shoes.
This is why metalcore, death metal and all sub genres became my outlet
Let’s go! Lorna Shore is so good!
You are awesome. All the commenter's, and our favorite RUclips therapist haha. You're all amazing and I appreciate how much you appreciate the music and the significance the lyrics can hold. 🖤 Lorna shore is something truly special
I'm stuck living with my ex for a year lease. I can see her all the time, but she's no longer mine. It's tearing me up inside. I'm sobbing as I listen to this song, feeling like she died yet her existence is just RIGHT THERE, but I can't be a part of it.
Man... I'm really sorry that this is your experience right now. I was in that situation about 7 years ago. I broke the lease. You'll likely look back at this as a time that really shaped you. We'll, I did. I know it hurts, but you can use this friction to make you a stronger person. Remember to have compassion for yourself and your ex, and try to respond in kindness instead of react out of emotion. ❤
From ManekiNeko: That’s so hard, god I can’t imagine how much your heart is hurting. It’s always hard getting over someone, but it must feel so much harder when they’re living in the same space. Is there any opportunity to move elsewhere or in with your family?
Did you decided to keep living together or is your situation such that you can’t move out? My ex and I broke up 3 years ago and we kept living in the same flats. But it was a decision we made together with rules to keep use safe from hurt. The first month/year was really hard. (I started therapy that year as well)
Finding/doing thing you like help. Finding people to spend time with besides your ex helps. And being close/friends with your ex helps. When you can talk to her about how you feel can help you. Making sure that both your boundaries are in check is super important.
Finding a new partner is important too. Knowing that your ex isn’t the only women out there helps over the grief of the break up.
Get over it move on
From EvilGenius: Hey there!
I want you to know that I do empathize with the immense emotional pain you're going through right now, even if I do not understand it. It's like a constant ache in your heart, isn't it? Living in such close proximity to someone you shared your life with, and now feeling that emotional chasm between you, can be excruciating.
The analogy of feeling like she's still there but just out of reach, as if she's a ghost from your past, is incredibly poignant. It's a heart-wrenching experience to mourn the loss of a relationship while being forced to confront its remnants daily.
I want you to acknowledge the strength it takes to express these feelings, even if it's through tears and the solace of a song. Your emotions are real and valid, and it's crucial to allow yourself to grieve this loss. It's okay to mourn the relationship that once was and the person she used to be in your life.
During this challenging time, please consider leaning on your support network, friends, or a therapist if available. They can provide a lifeline of understanding and comfort. Remember, healing is a gradual process, and with time, the intensity of these emotions will start to subside, and you'll find your way toward a brighter future. Until then, be kind to yourself and allow yourself to feel and heal at your own pace. You're not alone in this journey.
Hopefully this serves as some comfort for you!
Are you aware of the over all concept of the whole Pain Remains album? The concept of the whole album is of a guy that for whatever reason doesn't like living in the real world and starts lucid dreaming. The songs are about how he realizes that he is a "god" in this lucid dream and creates just to create but then realizes that doesn't make him happy. In the end he destroys the world and goes back to the real world.
I would imagine that it could be a mental health discussion in itself about trying to escape the real world (I hope that makes sense I'm having a hard time getting points across with my concussion right now.)
Also there is a trigger warning on part 2 because the male main character is not dealing well with his wife's death at the end of part 1 and cuts his wrists in front of her casket.
(There are two stories going on in the three part trilogy this music video part of. Will's lyrics about the lucid dreaming concept that is throughout the album and the screen play written by their lead guitarist Adam.)
Can you please finish the trilogy? They're all connected and are absolutely amazing.
Glad you did this with lyrics.
I've been through this very thing. And the actor got it down perfect. The "thousand yard stare" i was like that for years.
I hope you're doing better these days, friend. I can't fathom the pain you went through.
@@earthscorcher worse actually. But I'm okay. I appreciate it.
@@Hobobillz I'm sorry to hear that. I wish you the absolute best, friend.
i wish you did all 3 at once there litrally all connected thats why it just endhow it dose thers a full length of them together but i guss this way it keeps others intrested coming back :D
Metal music and Rock music are the best therapy in the world, no matter the bands.
most i like the sound of in a sea of fire, but the lirycs of after all ive done, are hitting so hard and deep i just start to cry
@heartsupport The whole trilogy of Pain Remains struck so close to home for me. I lost both of my parents between 2020 and 2021, not to mention other family members and friends due to either covid, or cancer, or suicide, while also struggling with my own mental health problems with depression, suicidal ideations, and PTSD. Being able to hear the stages of grief in Pain Remains mirrored my own so closely, it was cathartic and let me get those emotions out in a healthier way than I had been doing previously.
From Micro: Hey friend, thank you so much for sharing all of this. It's beautiful to hear about how Pain Remains has been emotional crutch to you, especially as you have been navigating through the brutal waves of grief. It must have been such a heartbreak and shock to lose both your parents and other people you've been sharing your life with, especially during such a short amount of time. Navigating from one loss to another -- it's this kind of season in life that makes you wonder when you're going to have the opportunity to breathe again. Just that, to breathe, to have the possibility to slow down and feel the air in your lungs. But sometimes it surely feels like there's just nothing to anchor ourselves to anymore. It's so hard to compose with the absence of others, especially when they've been holding such a significant part in our life. Feels like losing grip on life most of the time. My heart goes out to you.
Knowing that you've been leading your own battles on top of it, I truly want to commend you for holding on and for keeping on trying, even if it certainly feels like chaos most of the time. There are times when reality feels unbearable when it doesn't include our loved ones anymore, and it's okay to express it. Having my share of mental health issues like yours, and having lost a good amount of people in a short amount of time, I deeply relate to what you describe. Just how comforting and reassuring it can be to hear what you feel through music that resonate with your heart. It creates meaning around things that are difficult to describe. It gives this validation that you are not alone. And it's just as you said such a pure outlet to let emotions out. I can't count the amount of times I've had ugly cries while listening to music I would connect with - and there *is* something special when it reveals all the subtle layers of emotions surrounding grief. Even more in a world where losses and grief are difficult to talk about... It's challenging to find people (1) willing to listen, but also (2) able to.
It must have felt for you like being caught in the middle of a storm ever since the whole covid outbreak happened. When reality becomes so brutal, we need time to process, mourn, and shed all the tears that are needed. I hope for you that you continue to let these emotions out, that you keep letting yourself feel as necessary, and that you seek support as well if you ever feel like walking on a fine line with your suicidal thoughts. I know it's a tough fight, one that doesn't say its name and remains invisible to most -- but you are so worth that fight, my friend, and by naming these just like you did here, you are owning more power over it. There are still so many roots to let grow, contemplate and support in this journey of yours. Roots that will give room for some beautiful flowers to grow. Yours, but also under the bright light of the ones you mourn. Even if they are not physically present anymore, they keep on living through this loving heart of yours. :heart:
@@HeartSupport Thank you so much, reading this got me a bit choked up. Even my closest friends and family don't...I can't say they don't care or don't understand, but maybe don't acknowledge, perhaps is the best way of putting it. They'll acknowledge when I fumble but not really the strength required to function some days.
From Micro: Your daughter is so lucky to have such a strong parent as you! And by strong, I do mean someone who embraces both sides of it - the good days when everything feels natural, and the bad days when the highest need is to huddle under a soft blanket and focus on self-care. You are not running away from your own vulnerability, but you also don't let it take over everything, which is truly beautiful.
I'm so thankful for your willingness to open up and share here. Sometimes it feels easier to do it with strangers online - and that's okay! People closest to us know us differently, and sometimes their ability to be present or to understand is filtered by their own views and expectations. As you said, it doesn't mean they don't care. It's just that there is a right time and place for everything. :heart:
Did the audio to the music video go silent for anyone else?
please please please do the other parts. Ive been waiting for your thoughts!
You should react to whispers of your death by counterparts. It’s not nearly as emotional as this song but it definitely still hits you in the feels. The song was originally written about the lead vocalists cat but could definitely apply to a person. It’s about someone’s loved one who has cancer and the lyrics are very broken hearted and are saying I wish I was the one dying not you because I can’t live without you. It’s such a good song!
"Captivate, hypnotized By the fire in her eyes you took me by suprise and than you disappeared in the blink of an eye"
Please do all 3!
that massive lyric hits me hard everytime. "a world without you isn't meant for me" . :`(
Great trilogy, very heartfelt lyrics and exceptional emotion of gentle issues convied over "death core" due to beautify writing, playing, composition, musicianship and vocals. When I was younger I was so touched by Replica by Fear Factory due to the lyrics and not so much of the meaning of the song and how it made me fell in my family dynamic.
The literal meaning of the lyrics do not match the video but they certainly rhyme.
People find the trilogy to be sad. Especially the video. I disagree.
I lost my fiance 5 years ago. The love of my way too long life. She didn't die thankfully, but it feels like it because she is 10 time zones away.
I have been depressed, for what is now almost 30 years with no relief. This was it. My sister decided I was a danger to myself, and took me to her home across the state. I missed my window. It is weird, every day I yearn for being unalive, but I have to be in a certain mindset to do it. I haven't been since, even though ideation still remains.
The guy in the video did the right thing in my estimation. I have suffered through 5 years of pain, emptiness, cold, loneliness, and misery with no relief in sight. Since I am nothing, I guess I deserve to live decades longer alone and in pain, because that is apparently better than peace.
Insert the tagline of Pet Semetary here.
This hits close to home for me when my mom got cancer and passed away after getting an infection
From djstarion: Same here! I hadn't gotten that emotional over a video since I saw the Spiritbox video for Constance
From Lisalovesfeathers: I am so incredibly sorry for your loss friend, I seriously cannot imagine what you went through and the heartache you have felt. You are loved. x
From crazytrain116: Absolutely agree with this. Pain Remains is a trilogy that hits in every which way no matter and encompasses death and loss so emotionally. August Burns Red Ghosts was another song for me that hit home personally.
From ThriceTheThird: Loss of a loved one is one of the hardest things. Especially a parent. I lost my dad a couple years ago and the pain is still fresh for me too. Stay strong friend. <3
From jbro: As with Thrice, I also lost my dad a few years ago. Songs themselves can already be so captivating, but sometimes videos definitely provoke an even fresher reaction from the emotions. Hope the feedback from Taylor was a helpful light and encouragement! You're loved and not alone :heart:
Gotta watch all 3
we wait.. :)
I lost my fiancé to suicide on Dec 2, 2023. I liked this trilogy before that happened but now it is so bittersweet. I have sobbed to it countless times in the past weeks. @heartsupport
From ThriceTheThird: @thecannibal8108 Sometimes I think music helps us let out some of the pent up feelings and emotions that we have been bottling up inside. Losing someone you are so close to is an unimaginably painful life event. I also think that sharing with people is another great form of relief. As long as they are quality people, and in a safe space. If you ever feel you need/want to share more. Please feel free to do so. <3
From NateTriesAgain: @thecannibal8108 Damn. I am so sorry for your loss, friend. It is the worst feeling in the world - it is like living in a nightmare. I'm sure there are moments when your reality has been worse than the nightmare. That there have been moments of deep gut-wrenching sadness, but also moments of numbness - where it is just all too much, and your heart turns off because you just can't take it, and you go through life, and it feels like you're reaching through rubber gloves...you just can't feel anything, just the general outline of things and the fact that something's there. Relationships after something traumatic like this are so hard because no one can feel what you're feeling, no one can know the depth of your loss, it just feels like critically and utterly *alone*. You are without your person. Your life and the path you were on has been brutally severed. And it's hard to just...pick up the next day and "keep going"...to know where you are going...to feel like life is real without them. I'm so sorry friend. I can't imagine the depth of sorrow and pain you have been going through.
From Micro: @thecannibal8108 I'm so sorry for your loss, friend. This may sound dull as there is not enough or appropriate words to convey the pain of losing the very person who holds such a special place in your heart. Still, my heart goes out to you as you feel their absence and mourn what could have been. What you are going through is unfair, heartbreaking, and I can only imagine how much you must have been trying to rewrite the story in your mind or think about all the "what if's" imaginable. It's such a shock to lose someone you love in such a brutal, sudden way. It's hard to wake up in the morning facing this reality, and being forced somehow to figure out how your own path could unfold from there. It's not how it should have been, it's not how it was supposed to be.
I hope that, somehow, the tears can be an asset in helping you breathe deeper at times, especially when it feels quite impossible to catch your breath again. Feel everything that needs to be felt, without any judgment, as there is no wrong way to be affected by your loss. It must feel like being full of an unbearable emptiness within and surrounded by silence all around. I'm so sorry. Sending a huge ton of hugs and love your way. We are in this with you. :heart:
The rest of the pain remains trilogy is amazing. It flows so well into each other.
I would be curious of your breakdown of their song To The Hellfire
The story isn't finished. I'd love to see the other 2 parts.
Gotta get all 3 parts mai gai, incredible trilogy
I love this song but it kills me every time I see this video. My wife and I are still young but in the back of my mind I know that some day one of us will probably have to watch the other die and I really don't know how I'm ever going to handle that.
From Micro: I hear you on that. Gosh it's so intimidating and frightening to have this consciousness of our finiteness, and to think about it when it comes to the people we share our life with...Your significant other is life ally, someone who gets to learn to know you in ways no one else will, someone you don't need to wear any mask with... It's a very special type of bond and authenticity. It's so precious, so strong, yet thinking about the inevitable time of when one would disappear, makes it seem so fragile suddenly. My partner and I have just reached our 13 yrs together, and to be honest the thought you have, as well as the fears that go with it, is something that often strikes me. I used to brush that thought off quickly, but somehow it's still there, no matter what. Just the thought of knowing that one day one would have to face the death of the other feels unbearable. It feels so distant - like it's about another life, some kind of bad nightmare, but not something that would happen right here in this life. Sigh.
It's both a curse and a privilege, isn't it? To have that capacity of awareness, as human beings. A curse because it feels deeply frightening and paralyzing. Yet at the same time it holds power for movement - towards more love, more affection, more care, more *intention* in the time we spend with our significant other. When you think about it, there is also something absolutely beautiful and astonishing in the fact that you got to meet your wife and that you *do* share this very life together. What were the odds? Just pure magic and beauty. And somehow, maybe there's comfort to find in that. In cherishing and honoring the present moment with them, as much as possible, and especially because we never know what tomorrow will be made of. Oftentimes, when I fear the possibility of death and loss, I try to remind myself that it can also be seen as an invitation for more presence, and to live more intentionally - especially in connection with others. There is something beautiful in not taking anything or anyone for granted, and embracing the beauty that *is*, right now, in the present moment. After all, when I look at my partner, I also feel like his smile is an expression of an eternity. It removes the fears, the uncertainties, and ground me in the present - where we belong. <3
Returning to the dating scene has been nothing short of pain. As a short man with a low wage job I feel very much not wanted even though I feel like I live a life I want to. I have hobbies friends and I do all the things I want to but finding a partner to fill out that small void just seems very hard to do. Ghosting and very hollow conversations with some I pursue are very demotivating and the dates I go to just don't work out.
From ManekiNeko: It’s certainly hard opening up yourself to people to feel like there’s disappointment and heartache at the end of it. I’m so glad to hear that you’re living life as you want because changing for people means they don’t get to experience the real and genuine you
From EvilGenius: Hello there, friend!
I’m truly sorry to hear that you’ve been experiencing such a challenging time in the dating scene. It takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there, and it’s understandable that you’re feeling discouraged. It’s important to remember that your worth is not determined by your height or your job. You seem to have a fulfilling life with hobbies and friends, which is fantastic!
Dating can indeed be tough, with its fair share of disappointments. Ghosting and shallow conversations can be disheartening, but please know that these experiences are not a reflection of your value as a person. It’s often a result of the other person’s issues or circumstances.
Finding the right partner can take time, but it’s worth being patient. Continue to focus on the things that make you happy and confident. When you do meet someone who appreciates you for who you are, it will be all the more special. In the meantime, remember that you’re not alone in facing these challenges, and there are support networks and communities out there to help you navigate this journey. Keep your chin up, and I truly hope you find the connection you’re seeking.
Take good care of yourself!
From Micro: So hard to push yourself out there and muster the strength of navigating the dating scene. There's so many outcomes there and relational processes that can be daunting and discouraging. It takes a toll on your soul, and it makes sense to feel tired of hollow and superficial conversations. This is about a deep and personal need, and having it challenged over and over can lead you to question yourself, or even feeling like you just wouldn't fit. I can only imagine how the repeated deception can lead to questioning yourself, or even questioning your dream/expectations. Somehow, ghosting may be part of the process but the culture could be different, as it doesn't leave much space for closure. It's like being confronted to multiple hurts over and over - which simply piles up in the long run. Even if the scars are manageable at first, the accumulation makes it bigger and more impactful.
My heart goes out to you as you navigate these fluctuations and sudden changes in the interactions you have through this process. I think it takes a lot of courage to put yourself out there, and that is something to truly celebrate and be proud of in itself. I hope that, with time and perseverance, you will find your person. The one that will see you for who you are, and loves you because you are you. You deserve to have the possibility to give and receive this type of love - and you are without a doubt doing what's necessary for it. For what it's worth from a stranger on the internet - I'm rooting for you.
Had me fooled with the no sound, other than that, love it :)
I"m definitely a victim of ghosting. It has happened so much that my mental health dropped alot and my depression has increased because of it. And also my trust as well as significantly dropped and i feel likei just can't trust anyone anymore when it comes to friendships. It makes me feel incredibly hopeless and it's not something i ever wanted to experience but here we are. Just even one friend will be enough for me that i can talk to and connect with is enough for me but it just seems hopeless
From ManekiNeko: I’m extremely sorry that there has been this distance between your friends. Their actions do not dictate your worth and your value in the world and in other’s lives.
I know it’s so hard because you don’t have answers.
If you ever feel you need to talk more and share more. Or even if you feel like you want to be a part of a community, I’d like to welcome you to join the forum at
forum.heartsupport.com
From Micro: Being ghosted is truly an awful experience to go through. Especially as you've been experiencing this not just once but multiple times. At some point it gets hard to not doubt yourself in this situation, to not wonder what you could have done wrong and why people keep pushing you away. I can only imagine all the what if questions you may have asked yourself, and the torment that this questions has created over time. It makes completely sense to feel like it has affected your mental-health and overall well-being, worsening your depression at the same time. Ghosting is this awful type of abandonment that leaves you with your own imagination, fears and worries. It's hard to not think about the worst or to not accuse ourselves of not being enough [insert anything here]. It just leaves us wounded and forced to deal with it as much as we can. It's so hard to not have even just a sense of explaination and closure - but to have to create it ourselves. My heart really goes out to you.
It also makes sense to feel like your sense of trust has been completely shaken. You've been disappointed, hurt and felt betrayed by people you were close to. Having that level of connection being suddenly broken just makes you want to retreat away from everything and everyone. I know it does for me... it triggers some kind of urge to withdraw and stop giving others a chance, so that *at least* I feel like having some sense of control and safety. I may not control or predict others behaviors, but I can decide to cut off the roots of what ends up being hurtful... Trust feeling like being such a big piece of it. But on the other side it feels like such a curse as you end up isolating yourself, and prventing yourself from developing again meaningful connections. Trusting others with ourselves feels like such a gambling game sometimes, and when people ghost you, you just don't want to simply sit there and take the punches over and over... you want to have a say on it, share your voice, show that you EXIST and can't be treated like a disposable object.
Through it all, I hope you can give yourself as much grace as possible, because regardless of the context with the people who ghosted you, the way they responded to the problem was *their* decision, but not the reflection of your worth. It's also not indicating how your relationships are going to be in the future, but to find some sense of restoration within takes time, and it's okay to take as much time as *you* need. I'm rooting for you.
I've lost my dad recently and can't recover from it
From toastaintbad: Hi HeartSupport_Fans,
I'm so sorry for you loss. I hope you feeling okay. I just lost my loved one this year. I totally understand how you feel. It's okay if take day or months or a year to grief. You have the right to cry when you lose someone that you loved.
In heaven, your dad will always will be proud of what you accomplish in life. He doesn't want you to ever feel sad or be in a dark place. I'm here to support you if you need help! I hope some day you found peace with your father.
I lost my dad 2 1/2 years ago. I thought I'd collapse from the weight of it. I'm so sorry. You won't ever FULLY recover, but the pain will ease little by little. Music has been helping me immensely. So has therapy.
I don't know what your views are about life after death. I don't know what my OWN views are. I finally figured that I'm his legacy... Even if only on a cellular level, he's with me - in genes, DNA & even personality traits.
I hope that you're hanging in. And just know that you're not alone in that pain.
From Micro: Oh friend, I'm sorry you lost your dad. He must have been such a pillar into your life, and there is no doubt that being forced to compose with his absence must feel purely unbearable. It feels so unfair to share life with someone, to love them and care for them so very deeply, then to reach a point of having to keep going without them by your side. Even though death is a part of life, knowing it doesn't make it less hurtful once it hits us personally. There is something deeply shocking and confusing when it comes to feeling the void that one has left after being gone.
I personally don't know if we can fully recover from it. To me, grief keeps hitting in waves - something unexpected, sometimes felt before it even takes over. Sometimes it hurts as if it was the very first time, sometimes it hurts as if it was the thousandth time. Time helps - even though it doesn't heal. The wound remains, but what we do learn is how to compose and live with it. How to give it room so it doesn't go unnoticed, but also doesn't prevent us from fully living our present life. There are times now when I am still stuck in the past, with the people I had to leave there, but there are also times when I manage to invite them into my present life and embrace what is. It still feels unfair, but not everything feels like a curse, or as if life itself was an undeserved gift that I had to deal with.
Grief is so hard to exist with, although there is ultimately no right or wrong way to mourn the ones we miss with all our heart. If you need to cry, my friend, it's okay to let the tears be. If you need to scream, scream. If you need to share stories about your dad and good memories you have of him, please feel welcomed to do so. If you feel angry, that's a completely valid emotion too. If you need to seek more regular help/support to talk about it, to talk about how you feel, then there is no shame in doing that either.
The love you have for your dad is very strong, very real, very present. Not even death will ever take that away from you or him. There is - and will always be - a special bond that unites you. :heart:
I agree
Loved these lorna reactions. On the other side of the spectrum, maybe check out Electric Callboy. They make people happy. (we got the moves / Spaceman / techno train)
When i've heard this song for the first time (the 3 parts) It broke me. At that time i was going thru a break up, and i felt like if the other person was dead, but it was worst because i've knew she was out there, literally she's out of my reach but not from my sight. It was a hard time, but at the end i accepted the fact that i never going to find someone like her, cause every human being is different. So maybe i find someone new, but not trying to fill the whole the other person left in me but to love her without any expectation, just because i feel that love. @heartsupport .
You should try therapy session by soldier hard. The whole album, it might help someone out there.
Did you ever react to the other 2 part's?
Please please do the other 2 parts without cutting out the audio
Pretty some right now homeless just lost my home working 15 hr days…..just so alone man…sitting in the side of my work…I know I matter but my brain is a powerful thing. I hate it…
From OmarM: @justinott2888 I'm so sorry you're going through this. It sounds like you're facing a lot right now, it's difficult to be working so hard and still feel like you're barely holding on. Being alone in this type of situation only makes it harder. I know it isn't much, but I am here to listen. You do matter and what you go through also matters. It's ok to hate it, it's ok to feel frustrated and overwhelmed, you're doing your best in a difficult situation and this takes strength, even if it doesn't feel like it right now.
@@HeartSupport thanks…idk I guess music is just so powerful. Just helps to watch reactions of other people as well to know they feel the same about certain songs
From Micro: @justinott2888 Man, I'm sorry you've been facing such obstacles friend. It must feel so disheartening to put so much of your time and energy into making a living, yet to be on the edge of losing your home regardless. It's like being caught in a cycle where you try and try but the results don't align with all your efforts and willingness to keep on trying... which is so frustrating. And exhausting too. To feel like what you do would almost be in vain. Your mind knows rationally that it's not, but when your heart is waiting for what you long and fight for for over and over, you also start to feeling the toll it takes on you.
In the midst of this situatoin, your discouraging makes completely sense. Especially if you've been trying to fight for yourself essentially on your own. It's hard to keep one foot in front of the other when there isn't someone by our side who would try to remind us the things we need during moments of doubt. Who would encourage us and bring *hope* when everything around us make us feel helpless.
Somehow, you have found that 'person' through this community here. By sharing here, you are allowing this connection to exist with people who will read and interact with you. Even if it's online, and even if we don't personally know you here, rest assured that we see you and we are rooting for you. From here, what I see is someone who is very courageous in the midst of unwanted adversity. Your mind might try to convince you otherwise sometimes, but there is no doubt that there is fierce fire in you that is not going to let these struggles get the best of you. I see someone who is braving the helplessness by opening up about their situation and how they feel. It might not change everything, but it's part of ensuring that you don't stay alone during this rough season of your life.
If you have time and would like to have a volunteer peer supporter for a year - ie. a friend by your side who would listen to you and meet online -, maybe our mentorship program could be of interest? It's especially during these moments of vulnerability that we need allies by your side, and I would surely wish that for you. If you'd like, our webpage with more info on this program is available here: heartsupport.com/bts - it might take time to get matched with someone after you sign up, but maybe it could add just a bit of connection and needed support to walk through this rough time. :heart:
-Marie-Anne
Next react will ramos one take vocal
please fix your video there is a whole section that has no sound. 3:27 - 3:55
I thought it was my damn Bluetooth lol
I‘m getting ghosted right now again. It‘s not the first time by this person. But she use her phone really rarely. Mostly we see each other on social events here and than the chemicals are all good. But after we parted ways it‘s like I don’t even exist sometimes
From ManekiNeko: I’m sorry that it feels distant with your friend at times. I know sometimes I’m not always the best at responding to people in a timely manner and at times my friends just send through a “hey thinking of you” text. It’s always so lovely to be reminded of that and it encourages me that if I haven’t heard from someone in a while it’s okay to just drop a line.
From EvilGenius: Hi Friend. First of all, I sympathise with you in regards to being left suddenly, especially given that it isn’t the first time this has happened to you. However I also see it on the other side, in that there is always a reason for someone becoming distant. Perhaps the person is struggling mentally, or maybe things were just getting too much and they needed a break. Whatever their reasoning is, it’s valid. You should try to talk to them after a few days of giving them space to see if you can deal with any issues they may have. I’m sorry to hear this is causing you to feel like you don’t exist, but I can assure you, you are loved and cared about by so many. Keep your head up!
From Mystrose: Hi friend, this is a very hard situation to be in and I'm sorry you're struggling with not talking to your friend as often as you'd like. I have issues with that too and I can relate to you on some level. I would encourage you to talk to your friend and let them know how you're feeling. They might not even realize that the length in between the time you talk is too long for you. I'm glad you do get to interact on social events sometimes and it looks like everything is fine when that happens. That's really good!
From Lisalovesfeathers: Hi, Thanks for posting, I am sorry that you are struggling in your friendship, Have you ever just spoken to your friend about how your friendship works? The reason I ask is because its difficult for someone to be available to another all the time so being patient with eachother is a must, we have our friends and we have our lives outside of our friends and that is ok however it is also ok to communicate that you struggle with that feeling of abandonment when your friend is not in contact, let them know that this is how you feel and perhaps you can come to an agreement to stop that from happening. relationships all have to be balanced and that comes with communication. See what you can do. Best of luck. x
From Micro: So hard to feel like expectations are not adjusted on both ends, that you care about someone and appreciate them but don't get to connect with them as much as you'd like to. From what you have shared, it sounds like this is likely to be out of habit - not using her phone - and not intentionally malicious or meant to hurt you, but it *does* hurt as a result, and that is completely understandable. It feels as if you're so willing to pour your heart into this friendship/relationship, but that there is no reciprocity at play - or at least, under specific circumstances only. It's frustrating when it seems to be the same pattern repeating over and over. Through all of this, I hope you and her can have some time to discuss about this together. At many times, relationships require open communication even about *how* we communicate with one another, as misunderstandings or frustration can build up silently. Hopefully, with some clarification and proactive communication, you and her could find some middle ground in order to communicate in connect without having to change your habits too much, and for both to find joy in the relationship itself. :orange_heart:
please react to the other 2 songs in the trilogy!!!!
Try again! ruclips.net/video/WH3BOx1ppk4/видео.html
It needs to be the entire trilogy! The one Im linking is with subtitles.
It is seriously a masterpiece
Listening to this for the first time, was the first time I felt grief after my mothers death, a couple of years ago (I was taking a rather large dosis of anti-depressants at the time of her death, so I didnt feel a damn thing).
Why can I not donate she been blocked.
I deleted Facebook because I found it difficult to see my ex-girlfriend getting married. We had a history in high school where I was her type, and she has always been attractive, even appearing on TV in Chicago and the Food Channel. I wanna die now, I read what I wrote it made me pathetic.
From HI_ImHappy: @andrewbrumagen3479 What you are feeling is a very normal human emotion and is by no means pathetic at all. Feeling hurt and betrayed by someone even though they objectively did nothing wrong adds guilt to the concoction. I can't imagine that it's enjoyable in the least. Unfortunately, people move on and have their own lives, and as much as we want things to stay the same, we can't, and that's okay. I think deleting Facebook is a reasonable response, and if that helps you, then you should do it, but I don't think you should sit with these negative feelings forever. Instead, you should focus on your own life and what makes you happy.
You are not pathetic, I promise.
@@HeartSupport it was my fuck up. It was over 30 years ago and I got married and then got divorced and I have kids so she is 50 now but she is quite beautiful. Fuck I'm old as fuck. Sorry I swear a lot.
From Riri: @andrewbrumagen3479 Hi there,
It's hard to let go of someone who meant a lot to us. When we are taken from the ending we were hoping to have with them, continuing to add memories to this life together, but unfortunately it happens that we can't be with those people anymore. And just seeing them moving forward, and it feels like we didn't mean much to them, when we still are stuck trying to heal ourselves from this break up.
Then it adds the social media that still shows us their life events, and it hurts. It hurts because even if we want, we get those flashbacks and emotions regarding what we lived together and now we are forced somehow to see it. I think you did a good decision by deleting Facebook, in this way you won't have contact with her anymore and most probably it will make it easier to move forward, and to make your own love story too, you deserve to write new chapters that are worth remembering and be kept close to your heart.
Feeling so much, and thinking now about why she moved on, and how she moved on, can come with this heavy feeling of wanting to die and disappear, to not feel all these emotions anymore, to not face them, but slowly it will pass, it's a lot of intensity now because it's so recent and with time it will be less and less.
It can be scary to love again, but loving someone comes with the risk of suffering, but what is life if we won't try to love anymore because our past keeps us stuck.
I hope that you will find easier each day to get over this situation and all the emotions that came with it. Hold fast!
Are you calling his wife dying ghosting?
Pretty sure ghosting doesn't relate here
Bro writes a song about a guy losing his wife to terminal illness, and this RUclipsr relates it to ghosting and social media lmao
You obviously didn't watch her analysis. Their comment is exactly what she was asking for.
Also, the video is not what the song is about. You should go read the lyrics to the album. It's a great concept album, but only minor-ly related to the video.
Please do all 3!