In the days when all these watches were a little more affordable and including such classics like the Monster, Samurai, Turtle... I felt I needed at least one Seiko diver in my collection and I went with the Sumo. Nice middle ground.
Interesting comparison. I think I agree with your conclusion about the value, the days of Seiko being great bang for buck are long gone. I'd keep the SKX and probably look elsewhere for the kind of money they want for the other two.
Hi all, just wanted to mention something. So I’ve had all these, I even had an slao55 (which is a spectacular watch) and I’ve noticed something having tried many watches over the years. My current daily driver is a king sumo with the grey dial, and the sumo is hands down my favourite out of all of them. Why? Because it fits my wrist perfectly. None of the others ever felt quite right on my wrist. The sumo feels like it’s made to measure. It’s slim too, which makes it super wearable, and the king models look lovely. What I’m saying is, TRY THEM ON BEFORE YOU BUY. go into a shop and try them. It’s like clothing, you can pay more or less, but if it doesn’t fit you it doesn’t matter how nice it is, it will never look or feel right. I never thought I’d get a sumo lol, now it’s all I wear because of the perfect fit. It never annoys me. Lots of watches HAVE annoyed me on the wrist, but for me, it’s perfect. The slao55 is spectacular but even with the Seiko bracelet on the sumo (I hate Seiko mid range bracelets because of that divers extension- but for some reason because of the way the sumo fits it’s perfect) I still prefer the sumo. Just something I’ve noticed in all my years with watches haha. Try them on! I have a 7.5 wrist like everyone else, but even with the long lug to lug because the sumos lugs bend down it conforms to MY wrist perfectly. I think we forget about fit too often and how important it is. It can make a world of difference.
Awesome Seiko trifecta battle! Thanks WyW! Likewise love the query you shot about the vid (which one...). The adjective used for each pretty much represents their creds amongst watchnuts.
I have a 6.5in wrist and own a sumo spb101. It's thinner at 12.9mm thick and the case curves down a lot so it wraps around the wrist very well and there's no overhang.
I think you just got lucky with the SKX and the Sumo. My Sumo is 20-30s / day fast. Liked the video. I have the first two and now have a SLA023 on the way in the mail. Excited!
All three are awesome. If i was going to be stranded on an Island like Tom Hanks. I would probably choose SKX. Because the 7s26 is so basic. It can easily go 10-15yrs w/o. any issue.
All stunning, but for me the Sumo is the most beautiful and unique. Second the SKX as it's so iconic and comfortable. MM is incredible, but a little too thick and chunky for my tastes personally
@@M3LTUP I totally 💯 agree with you on the Sumo. I own the SBDC033 Sumo/Blumo. I added a Marine Master clasp to my stock bracelet and it takes it to another level . I also own the SKX009 and I have that on a Strapcode 3D super oyster bracelet. I don’t own the Marine Master as of yet but it’s definitely my Grail watch . To me outside of owning a Marine Master the Seiko Sumo especially the first or second generation Sumo is the best watch money can buy.
This are one of the best watches to have. I own 6 seiko divers namely skx007j1, spb103j1 sumo hulk, king samurai srpe35, Monster 3rd gen. Penguin Back, urban safari tuna, Lastly the King Turtle Dark Manta Ray. I did not have the cash yet to go to saturation diver category so MM300 is new milestone for me but it seems to be more bulkier all in all and heavier. Honestly having a 6.5-6 3/4 inch wrist. The 45 mm sumo hulk was the best fit overall. A little bit heavy but will get used to it after couple of hours. At times I am thinking to let it go but once I give it a try again, the wow factor just kicks in. As a matte of fact when a second hand sumo hulk was spotted on the market place, I did not hesitate to buy it given that I have already one. I was planning to swap it to another colorway or probably modd the dial and the bezel. Or gave it as a precious gift to love ones as it grow on me the easier than the other bunch. I am a g shock user and apple watch user prior and despite being fascinated with watches I couldn’t pick which one is a better choice up until I bought my first one which is an orient kamasu as it is the one I can afford at the time which I am planning to part ways now that I have 3 green tint dial on my collections. I would have keep it if it was the red one as I don’t have a red and orange dial yet. I bought a seiko 5 barcelona FC edition from my home country and is still not in my possession so waiting to have a personal look on it.
Thanks. Youre right. The skx isnt great, but for 100s of $ more you arent really getting a nicer design or thinner watch. It still looks similar. I will keep my skx 007 and go for Oris Aquis next, maybe an Omega aquaterra and rolex yachtmaster one day.
I love this video, three sacred monsters from Seiko.🥰 Personally, I have the two cheaper ones, but I prefer another one that you do not present. An Sbdc061 aka MM200 or babyMM, it exudes a superior sense of beauty.😉 The MM300 is legendary but a little bit too expensive for me.😥
I have the Blue Sumo too. I put it on a Yobokies anvil and it looks sharp. The OEM bracelet is nice but the watch does not achieve it's full potential on that bracelet.
I own 2 sumos for my over 7.5 inch wrist fits me perfect and I love the movement it’s good for the price and of course it looks more refine and expensive than skx 👍🏼 by the way sumo is 52 lug to lug
Agree on the thickness. The diameter isn’t that big of a „problem“. On the other hand: probably the dimensions are what make the MM300 the MM300. If you haven’t tried it on yet, do so. You’ll probably be surprised how small it wears. Thanks for your comment!
@@watchyouwant1617 i have an SPB077J (MM200) on a rubber strap, which I love, but the lug to lug is at the limit for my small wrist. If it was thicker like MM300 it would just be too much IMO. Besides, I cant see myself wearing a watch north of 2K. I would be too scared lol
@@jaycamacho8179 Congratulations in the MM200 beautiful piece! Regarding the money: sooner or later you’ll be comfortable to wear those watches. I also never saw myself wearing something over 1k.
@@watchyouwant1617 most expensive so far was the SPB143 but I ended up selling because it was running too slow and seemed a little underwhelming when not in direct sunlight. Lume wasn’t great either. But its the luck of the draw with these Seikos!
Yeah, totally understand/agree. A little bit of regulation would have been the icing on the cake. Mine is now 10 seconds per day. Nevertheless it’s really turning out to be my favorite Seiko and almost my favorite watch.
@@jdc3636 some people say that but I‘m not sure. Maybe it’s also because how I wear it (home office day with less movement; actively wearing it with more wrist-movement etc). I should cover it in one of the next videos.
@@StavrosEz in my case it slowed down a little bit from plus 16 to now just under plus 10 seconds per day. In the end it doesn’t bother me any more because I wear a different watch everyday and because the MM300 is such a joy to wear and to look at. It sounds annoying but you really have to experience this watch in the metal to appreciate it. Thank you very much for your question/comment! Greetings from Germany
Nice comparison of the watchs,skx is a winner on price. Sumo looks a very nice daily wear watch. Mm is in a different league as professional, strap is excellent for wearing over a diving suit with the extension. Any of these I'd use with a heavy duty zulu nato so no fear of losing a spring bar while in the water. If no watersport I'd stick with the bracelet.
There is 2 problems with the MM: first is the 8L35 movement. Seiko doesn't sell parts for it to local dealers. Herr in germany, you have to send it in to Seiko germany. They can fix nearly every problem. For some special issues it has to be send to Japan even by them. Before they got it from you, they don't let you know what servicing will cost at all. Which is sad and unprofessionell in my opinion. The second thing is, the MM300 for deep dive reasons has a monoblock case. Which means, there is no screw mechanism at the backside. Everything has to be done through the front. Only a very knowing mechanic will be able to handle it the right way. The risk is of course to damage something because you handled it wrong. Parts are expensive of course. In germany, search and go for Baris Özdogan in Dortmund. He is an absolute Seikofreak and good watchmaker for all Seikos outthere. Cheers!
I have not held an MM in person but I have an skx and have held a sumo. I can't get over that size. Even tho I do have a 7.5 inch wrist. I prefer something around a 38mm. 42mm is as big as I'll go
@@watchyouwant1617 I see that... I would like to check one out. It does seems to wear more like an skx than a sumo. Thinking of doing an MM mod actually. I like the look of the skx without crown guards. Namoki has a titanium case, bezel, and crown kit. But I kinda like the large crown look on the MM style case
Have you tried a sumo on your wrist? It wears much smaller so does the mm and I at first thought I'd want something around 39 or 40 but realized that 42 - 45 is my ideal size for a diver.
All Seiko divers with the exception of the Sumo and 1000m Tunas wear small. The MM300 is like a tall SKX and the Willard is tiny. I have big wrists and can’t live with anything under 44mm.
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Will always love the skx and what it stands for, but the mm300 is a BEAST
In the days when all these watches were a little more affordable and including such classics like the Monster, Samurai, Turtle... I felt I needed at least one Seiko diver in my collection and I went with the Sumo. Nice middle ground.
Somehow...of all Seiko divers...I owned the turtle, samurai, MM300 but not Sumo.....yet! Hahahahaha
Interesting comparison. I think I agree with your conclusion about the value, the days of Seiko being great bang for buck are long gone. I'd keep the SKX and probably look elsewhere for the kind of money they want for the other two.
Hi all, just wanted to mention something. So I’ve had all these, I even had an slao55 (which is a spectacular watch) and I’ve noticed something having tried many watches over the years. My current daily driver is a king sumo with the grey dial, and the sumo is hands down my favourite out of all of them. Why? Because it fits my wrist perfectly. None of the others ever felt quite right on my wrist. The sumo feels like it’s made to measure. It’s slim too, which makes it super wearable, and the king models look lovely. What I’m saying is, TRY THEM ON BEFORE YOU BUY. go into a shop and try them. It’s like clothing, you can pay more or less, but if it doesn’t fit you it doesn’t matter how nice it is, it will never look or feel right. I never thought I’d get a sumo lol, now it’s all I wear because of the perfect fit. It never annoys me. Lots of watches HAVE annoyed me on the wrist, but for me, it’s perfect. The slao55 is spectacular but even with the Seiko bracelet on the sumo (I hate Seiko mid range bracelets because of that divers extension- but for some reason because of the way the sumo fits it’s perfect) I still prefer the sumo. Just something I’ve noticed in all my years with watches haha. Try them on! I have a 7.5 wrist like everyone else, but even with the long lug to lug because the sumos lugs bend down it conforms to MY wrist perfectly. I think we forget about fit too often and how important it is. It can make a world of difference.
Thank you very much for this useful insight! And to all the others: please read this before buying one of these watches!
@@watchyouwant1617 thank you for the kind words!
i love my Sumo 2nd Gen.... The best!
Awesome Seiko trifecta battle! Thanks WyW! Likewise love the query you shot about the vid (which one...). The adjective used for each pretty much represents their creds amongst watchnuts.
Great review, I have been considering the sumo as I have a 7.5 inch wrist but I think I might also treat myself to a skx :).
Thanks man! Can’t go wrong with either of them
I have a 6.5in wrist and own a sumo spb101. It's thinner at 12.9mm thick and the case curves down a lot so it wraps around the wrist very well and there's no overhang.
Glad to hear that. It’s the typical Seiko magic making big watches really wearable. Thanks for commenting!
Love mine. Got for under 600 new from Japan. Its now my daily piece.
I think you just got lucky with the SKX and the Sumo. My Sumo is 20-30s / day fast. Liked the video. I have the first two and now have a SLA023 on the way in the mail. Excited!
Great to hear! Hope you’ll like it. I really adore mine. It’s such a stunning piece. I wish you a lot of fun with it!
Luck of the draw with accuracy. Some SKX are almost COSC and yet you can get a MM300 that runs +16s. My Sumo is +9 and my Turtle is - 11.
A very useful comparison. Thanks!
Thanks you very much!
All three are awesome. If i was going to be stranded on an Island like Tom Hanks. I would probably choose SKX. Because the 7s26 is so basic. It can easily go 10-15yrs w/o. any issue.
All stunning, but for me the Sumo is the most beautiful and unique. Second the SKX as it's so iconic and comfortable. MM is incredible, but a little too thick and chunky for my tastes personally
Yes, a few mm less wouldn’t have hurt the MM
For me. Definitely the Sumo is the best and most unique of the three. The Sumo case design is like no other watch.
@@M3LTUP I totally 💯 agree with you on the Sumo. I own the SBDC033 Sumo/Blumo. I added a Marine Master clasp to my stock bracelet and it takes it to another level . I also own the SKX009 and I have that on a Strapcode 3D super oyster bracelet. I don’t own the Marine Master as of yet but it’s definitely my Grail watch . To me outside of owning a Marine Master the Seiko Sumo especially the first or second generation Sumo is the best watch money can buy.
This are one of the best watches to have.
I own 6 seiko divers namely skx007j1, spb103j1 sumo hulk, king samurai srpe35, Monster 3rd gen. Penguin Back, urban safari tuna, Lastly the King Turtle Dark Manta Ray. I did not have the cash yet to go to saturation diver category so MM300 is new milestone for me but it seems to be more bulkier all in all and heavier. Honestly having a 6.5-6 3/4 inch wrist. The 45 mm sumo hulk was the best fit overall. A little bit heavy but will get used to it after couple of hours. At times I am thinking to let it go but once I give it a try again, the wow factor just kicks in. As a matte of fact when a second hand sumo hulk was spotted on the market place, I did not hesitate to buy it given that I have already one. I was planning to swap it to another colorway or probably modd the dial and the bezel. Or gave it as a precious gift to love ones as it grow on me the easier than the other bunch. I am a g shock user and apple watch user prior and despite being fascinated with watches I couldn’t pick which one is a better choice up until I bought my first one which is an orient kamasu as it is the one I can afford at the time which I am planning to part ways now that I have 3 green tint dial on my collections. I would have keep it if it was the red one as I don’t have a red and orange dial yet. I bought a seiko 5 barcelona FC edition from my home country and is still not in my possession so waiting to have a personal look on it.
mm300 for me
Mine is on its way!
Thanks. Youre right. The skx isnt great, but for 100s of $ more you arent really getting a nicer design or thinner watch. It still looks similar. I will keep my skx 007 and go for Oris Aquis next, maybe an Omega aquaterra and rolex yachtmaster one day.
Thank your for your feedback!
I love this video, three sacred monsters from Seiko.🥰
Personally, I have the two cheaper ones, but I prefer another one that you do not present. An Sbdc061 aka MM200 or babyMM, it exudes a superior sense of beauty.😉
The MM300 is legendary but a little bit too expensive for me.😥
I have the skx009 and the SBDC033 Sumo/Blumo but not a Marine Master yet but hopefully one day 👍🏻🙏🏻💯
The Blumo is one of the best Seiko divers👌🏻 You know that I bought it twice…
@@watchyouwant1617 yes brother I know the Sumo is king 👑 outside of the MM300 . I want a Marine Master so bad lol 😂
I have the Blue Sumo too. I put it on a Yobokies anvil and it looks sharp. The OEM bracelet is nice but the watch does not achieve it's full potential on that bracelet.
@@M3LTUP the Blumo is great! Probably Sumo at its finest
@@M3LTUP I added a Marine Master clasp to my Blumo stock bracelet and now it’s perfect 👍🏻💯
No!! Keep the SUMO! It’s a one of a kind with a unique shape!
It‘ll stay in the collection
My Sumo has stolen all my Turtles' wrist-time.
I own 2 sumos for my over 7.5 inch wrist fits me perfect and I love the movement it’s good for the price and of course it looks more refine and expensive than skx 👍🏼 by the way sumo is 52 lug to lug
Great to hear! I‘ve also owned two (sold the Blumo) but am tempted to get another iteration of this awesome watch soon.
I agree. I have the green and a black one. I LOVE THEM. Hell i love all 40 watches i have😂😂
Plus 3 secs for the skx is amazing my skx is plus 30 a day lol. Plus 3 is better than my speedmaster and on par with my Rolex root beer
My 11-year-old SKX173 worn 24/7 is -7 seconds/day.
If the MM300 was 13mm thick and 42.5mm it would be perfect.
Agree on the thickness. The diameter isn’t that big of a „problem“. On the other hand: probably the dimensions are what make the MM300 the MM300. If you haven’t tried it on yet, do so. You’ll probably be surprised how small it wears. Thanks for your comment!
@@watchyouwant1617 i have an SPB077J (MM200) on a rubber strap, which I love, but the lug to lug is at the limit for my small wrist. If it was thicker like MM300 it would just be too much IMO. Besides, I cant see myself wearing a watch north of 2K. I would be too scared lol
@@jaycamacho8179 Congratulations in the MM200 beautiful piece! Regarding the money: sooner or later you’ll be comfortable to wear those watches. I also never saw myself wearing something over 1k.
@@watchyouwant1617 most expensive so far was the SPB143 but I ended up selling because it was running too slow and seemed a little underwhelming when not in direct sunlight. Lume wasn’t great either. But its the luck of the draw with these Seikos!
@@watchyouwant1617 This comment sums the MM300 up perfectly. Great video, thanks.
The Sumu wins clearly.
Seiko Top ,
My brand new mm300 is 12+ seconds per day, a little disappointed
Yeah, totally understand/agree. A little bit of regulation would have been the icing on the cake. Mine is now 10 seconds per day. Nevertheless it’s really turning out to be my favorite Seiko and almost my favorite watch.
@@watchyouwant1617 interesting. That is a six seconds improvement from what you initially described in the video. Does watch have a break in period?
@@jdc3636 some people say that but I‘m not sure. Maybe it’s also because how I wear it (home office day with less movement; actively wearing it with more wrist-movement etc). I should cover it in one of the next videos.
@@StavrosEz in my case it slowed down a little bit from plus 16 to now just under plus 10 seconds per day. In the end it doesn’t bother me any more because I wear a different watch everyday and because the MM300 is such a joy to wear and to look at. It sounds annoying but you really have to experience this watch in the metal to appreciate it. Thank you very much for your question/comment! Greetings from Germany
Nice comparison of the watchs,skx is a winner on price.
Sumo looks a very nice daily wear watch.
Mm is in a different league as professional, strap is excellent for wearing over a diving suit with the extension.
Any of these I'd use with a heavy duty zulu nato so no fear of losing a spring bar while in the water.
If no watersport I'd stick with the bracelet.
This hurts because I just ordered the green sumo. 😂
🤣 don’t get me wrong: I love the Sumo. Stilll got it and think that it’s the most underrated Seiko. Hope you’ll get yours soon! Thanks for watching!
The MM has to go to JAPAN for service. It'll cost you half of what it cost new.
I‘ll service it here at my local Seiko/Grand Seiko dealer. Movement isn’t complicated
@@watchyouwant1617 as I've been told by my GS AD, they'll sent it to Japan. Perhaps you live in Japan.
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@@jonirwin7316 My German AD told me, that they’ll could service it here as well. Hope he was right
There is 2 problems with the MM: first is the 8L35 movement. Seiko doesn't sell parts for it to local dealers. Herr in germany, you have to send it in to Seiko germany. They can fix nearly every problem. For some special issues it has to be send to Japan even by them. Before they got it from you, they don't let you know what servicing will cost at all. Which is sad and unprofessionell in my opinion.
The second thing is, the MM300 for deep dive reasons has a monoblock case. Which means, there is no screw mechanism at the backside. Everything has to be done through the front. Only a very knowing mechanic will be able to handle it the right way. The risk is of course to damage something because you handled it wrong. Parts are expensive of course.
In germany, search and go for Baris Özdogan in Dortmund. He is an absolute Seikofreak and good watchmaker for all Seikos outthere.
Cheers!
I have not held an MM in person but I have an skx and have held a sumo. I can't get over that size. Even tho I do have a 7.5 inch wrist. I prefer something around a 38mm. 42mm is as big as I'll go
The MM really wears way smaller than its measurements would suggest. You should definitely try one, if possible
@@watchyouwant1617 I see that... I would like to check one out. It does seems to wear more like an skx than a sumo. Thinking of doing an MM mod actually. I like the look of the skx without crown guards. Namoki has a titanium case, bezel, and crown kit. But I kinda like the large crown look on the MM style case
Have you tried a sumo on your wrist? It wears much smaller so does the mm and I at first thought I'd want something around 39 or 40 but realized that 42 - 45 is my ideal size for a diver.
All Seiko divers with the exception of the Sumo and 1000m Tunas wear small. The MM300 is like a tall SKX and the Willard is tiny. I have big wrists and can’t live with anything under 44mm.