My first pedal was the MXR Envelope. Its one of the best on the market. I agree that the filters are lacking. I managed to get one of them to be decent however after coming back to it. Ill take a look at that octave pedal that youre talkinf about in the video. I was stoked when i found out the "Boctaver" was coming but was sadened by the lack of bottom end. I tried sticking eq on it, and it just doesnt have any. Sometimes i want that sine wavy type sound but im stuck with the regular octave in the helix until i find something different. I just used the Manta Filter with the helix for the first time and got some really cool organ type sounds and was able to adjust the filtering better with the Manta
You've got to try the Walrus Audio Kangra filter/fuzz. Highly underrated and has got the warmest envelope filter. Switch the envelope off and turn the filter all the way counter clockwise with the fuzz on (vintage no mid boost) and you've got an epic sub synth. Took it off the board only to put it back on.
The MXR preamp is such a great tool. Simply super neutral and the EQ works great. It doesn't take up that much space on the board either. If I also get the HX Stomp, I'm having a hard time thinking about it, the MXR preamp with DI function will definitely be on the board too.
Thanks for going over the power for your HX stomp! I have that same "Y" power cable and I now see how I've been using it wrong, four minutes in and you're already solving my pedal problems😅😅
I too have gone with an HX Stomp into the MXR Bass Preamp. No need to use the HX Global EQ, knobs are so much easier, a good signal to the amp, plus a nice out to go to the sound board.
I believe that the HX Stomp’s outputs are actually TRS balanced outs, so you should be able to run a TRS-XLR adapter and not have noise, bypassing the need for a DI. I prefer a DI to an adapter cable every day of the week, but when trying to scale things down that’s always an option and then I just keep a couple spare adapters in my gig bag.
Love this style of content. Technique is great, but there’s so many other pieces to making music it’s great to see how you approach it. Also, would love to see footage from your Morocco journey! Would be cool to see how you tackle set-up/sound check in these types of gigs.
Love the Podcast Janek! Regarding your Temple pedalboards comment. I have 2 different Temple pedalboards and love them! But I am NOT a fan of their screw on pedal mounting system. Your comment wasn't specific but I assume you ruled it out because of the mounting system. Firstly I found the adhesive from the mount to the pedal is almost permanent so after almost ruining 1 pedal I immediately abandoned that system and I just use dual lock on top of the board. That also allows me to be a little more accurate of my pedal placement vs the mounts. The boards are lightweight and I'm a big fan of their patch bays for i/o and power, makes life so easy. On the other hand the Mono Tick is such a high quality convenient little bag, as you've done here it almost pays to build the board around how you are going to carry/transport it.
Totally right about why I chose not to use the Temple board. It's the mounting system that I'm not crazy about. Again, it's not that it doesn't work, it's a personal preference, and I feel I can be way more creative with the positioning and design with using dual lock. I can also see why Temple's add-ons like the I/O module are very attractive for people, it's a great idea.
Thanks for sharing all this with us Janek. I've never used pedals in the past, but you're giving me some great ideas. I think I'm slowly becoming a convert :-)
We have subtitles 🫶🏼🙌🏼! Some time ago I had the Seamoon Funk Machine thinking about that sound of the Brecker Brothers; Some Skunk Funk. But where the sound of the pedal is most prominent is in Roxy Music's song on Disco Avalon's The Main Thing track.
Hey thanks for the vid very cool small board! Quick question, I am thinking about buying an HX Stomp, is it possible to take a DI signal from the HX to FOH that would have any EFX blocks as well as an Amp and Cab sim while sending just the EFX blocks signal minus the Amp/Cab sims to an amp? Thanks!
34:52 just flip the placement of the first 2 pedals so the octave is on top with the input going up away from you instead. It would mean a slightly longer cable run from the filter to the stomp, but it's not too bad
I considered that, but I need to access the octave way more than the filter so it's a little more convenient to on the front. I'll use a right-angle instrument cable into the octave to avoid catching it with my foot.
Did you arrange the octave and envelope pedals so their switches were close to the Stomp for a reason? Like ease of getting power to them? Or keeping the switches close together? Having feet like flippers myself, I'd have been minded to arrange the octave and envelope switches so they were at the edge of the board so it'd be less likely to catch the Stomp's switches inadvertently. Would be interested to know the design decision on that front
The layout was all about the location of the power inputs plus the ease of using one small patch cable between the octave and the filter. It keeps the cabling neat.
Don't know if you already thought of this, but if you want a preamp you could start the signal from the hxstomp with the preamp you like and then use the send/returns for the octave and envelope, i use that exact setup and for me it works amazingly. The only problem i find is that i would like to use an analog compressor since i don't like the stomp ones, do you use in the stomp that works well for you?
There are major issues with the AD/DA conversion in the send/return on the HX Stomp. It destroys the natural sound of the bass when you have the block bypassed. I don't know why more bass players aren't experiencing this when they use the feature...
Hey Janek! Thanks for taking the time to show your build. Love your intentionality with everything you do. Just out of curiosity what camera set up are you using these days? Cheers!
Could you leave the subtitles option on your RUclips channel activated so that those of us who speak Spanish can better understand the content of your videos, greetings Janeck
Great video thanks! Im going to talk through with my therapist the lack of a Boss product on the board. In a few months i will probably be able to find a place of acceptance. 🤘😀👍😎
I love my ghost Fire board! It's the only board I've found that's actually reasonably priced! $100+ for a metal frame is a scam, but $30 for a metal frame and a bag is tolerable.
How does the HX Stomp screen do in direct sunlight? If you've run into this problem before, you know it can be more than just an annoyance, it can change your overall performance.
Great vid! I love small boards like this. Quick question about your Mattisson, do you think the 32” scale sacrifices anything in the lower positions? I love the idea of a more ergonomic instrument, and im curious if the 32” works well for all registers or if it’s just better for solo playing. You’re an inspiration man!
@@cdcgb1 my band mate has short cable TRS to female XLR on his HX Effect. The only thing is DI’s has ground button. I was contacting Line 6 about it, try to figure it out - they said you don’t need it, it will adjust your impedance and you already have balance output 🤷🏻♂️ But everyone on RUclips is using DI’s with their HX Stomps 🤷🏻♂️
Because I still need to rely on a DI pedal to go to the front of house, and I'd much rather have control over that, especially with the added bonus of EQ that the MXR Bass Preamp gives me. I could use the EQ in the Stomp, but that means using an EQ block on every preset. I like to have EQ separate from the multi fx, just like the octave and the filter. The Stomp is amazing for certain things, but in some areas it's still in its infancy.
@@janekgwizdala You can go straight from HX to FOH. HX has Di built in. The only difference - its TRS output (Stereo Jack) instead of XLR. You can get TRS/XLR adapter and your good.
Janek, if I may ask, why did you pick the MXR over the sushi box Finally V2 for this board? Given the similar size, dice thought it’d be an easy choice. Power requirements?
Because I don't own the Sushi Box. I also might still have chosen the MXR for this board even if I did though, just because it was such a rough stretch of traveling into a pretty hostile environment. I'm not sure how much I would have been into having a tube out in the middle of nowhere in Morocco for a gig.
@@janekgwizdala makes total sense. Wind-blown sand + electronics doesn’t sound like a great combo, for sure. Admittedly, when you mentioned not wanting to drag a tube through a hostile environment, the very first thing to come to mind was “stage juice” before I realized you were talking about Morocco 😂 I’m looking at putting a tube stage after my HX, Finally seems to fit the bill. I’m just a little cheap and lazy (the weight) to put the noble on my board. Anything else you’d recommend looking at in between the prices of the Noble/REDDI and the Finally for warming before putting it through a DI (if it isn’t a DI anyway)? I love my HX through my Mesa TT800, but as soon as I run direct it just sounds a bit sterile for my taste. Honestly, I’ve considered just sending a dry pre-EQ out of my Mesa (nice clean tube in the input gain stage). But it’d be great to get something on a board and not have to also carry around an amp. Have to say, I feel like a weenie for even insinuating that carrying an 8lb, small class D head is a “burden” when I think back to the glory days of 125-lb 2x10’s in the 90’s and 00’s haha
Why did you not place the foot switch of the envelope and octave to the outside of the board? Would that not make foot switching access easier? (As in octave on top, filter on the bottom of the board.) Or did that make the cable connectivity a mess?
Connectivity would have been a little bit more complicated that way, and I need access to the octave pedal way more than the filter so I like that one closer to my right foot on the bottom of the board.
i could not afford the "helloy duo" or whatever its called, so i had a friend 3d print one shaped like an L , and then i built it myself and but it on the side of the HX stomp so i still have the acces to the Send and return ports, coasted me like 3euro insted of 50 euro that the Duo coast :P
I’ve been looking to make a smaller pedalboard myself and was looking at the HX Stomp. Could you give the link for the aux switches for the Stomp? Thanks.
The bass studio closed its doors to new members some time ago now, but some of the courses are available at my website. You can find all the videos and play alongs at my website also.
The output of each power spot on the cioks is so powerful that using a splitter is way less of an issue than you might think. The DC7 is also significantly heavier and almost twice the size of the 4, so it's a space and weight saving thing too.
If I didn't need any other pedals outside of the Stomp, I could have chosen literally any DI in my collection. Anything from the MXR to the Noble. But there wasn't space for anything bigger than the MXR Bass Preamp on this board as I needed the octave and the filter.
It was a possibility, but it sits too high on the board to be comfortable, and kind of ugly looking too... The pedalnetics add-on for the Stomp is the highest I want to go.
Tell you what - you’re dead right about the PedalTrain flight case handle. It’s horrible and I’m concerned it’ll eventually bruise my hand on the way to a gig. I’m gonna drill it out and replace it.
Does it ever dawn on folks just how rich lots of people who make YT videos for music and art actually are? I view YT more and more as a way to show this divide. Sure, we do bridge this divide, but dang…some folks just seem to have endless supplies of cash and that happen to make YT channels and videos for it.
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 is that aimed at me? Or just a general statement? I’d love you to point out exactly where I have all the cash stashed if it was directed at me. I can’t find it anywhere.
My first pedal was the MXR Envelope. Its one of the best on the market. I agree that the filters are lacking. I managed to get one of them to be decent however after coming back to it.
Ill take a look at that octave pedal that youre talkinf about in the video. I was stoked when i found out the "Boctaver" was coming but was sadened by the lack of bottom end. I tried sticking eq on it, and it just doesnt have any. Sometimes i want that sine wavy type sound but im stuck with the regular octave in the helix until i find something different. I just used the Manta Filter with the helix for the first time and got some really cool organ type sounds and was able to adjust the filtering better with the Manta
You've got to try the Walrus Audio Kangra filter/fuzz. Highly underrated and has got the warmest envelope filter. Switch the envelope off and turn the filter all the way counter clockwise with the fuzz on (vintage no mid boost) and you've got an epic sub synth. Took it off the board only to put it back on.
The MXR preamp is such a great tool. Simply super neutral and the EQ works great. It doesn't take up that much space on the board either. If I also get the HX Stomp, I'm having a hard time thinking about it, the MXR preamp with DI function will definitely be on the board too.
Thank you for sharing your process.
Just made myself a small board with the HX Stomp, Cioks dc4, and and a Bass DI! Love how simple and nice it is. Great video btw
Thanks for going over the power for your HX stomp! I have that same "Y" power cable and I now see how I've been using it wrong, four minutes in and you're already solving my pedal problems😅😅
I too have gone with an HX Stomp into the MXR Bass Preamp. No need to use the HX Global EQ, knobs are so much easier, a good signal to the amp, plus a nice out to go to the sound board.
And i really hope you can do some more vlogs, loved those! Fizzy water, tennis, flights, good times!
I believe that the HX Stomp’s outputs are actually TRS balanced outs, so you should be able to run a TRS-XLR adapter and not have noise, bypassing the need for a DI. I prefer a DI to an adapter cable every day of the week, but when trying to scale things down that’s always an option and then I just keep a couple spare adapters in my gig bag.
Love this style of content. Technique is great, but there’s so many other pieces to making music it’s great to see how you approach it.
Also, would love to see footage from your Morocco journey! Would be cool to see how you tackle set-up/sound check in these types of gigs.
Janek, with your other-worldly playing, the pedals are just gilding the lily.
Janek. People don't know how well the M81 works with multiFX I've been using one for a year now and I'm really happy.
Love the Podcast Janek! Regarding your Temple pedalboards comment. I have 2 different Temple pedalboards and love them! But I am NOT a fan of their screw on pedal mounting system. Your comment wasn't specific but I assume you ruled it out because of the mounting system. Firstly I found the adhesive from the mount to the pedal is almost permanent so after almost ruining 1 pedal I immediately abandoned that system and I just use dual lock on top of the board. That also allows me to be a little more accurate of my pedal placement vs the mounts. The boards are lightweight and I'm a big fan of their patch bays for i/o and power, makes life so easy. On the other hand the Mono Tick is such a high quality convenient little bag, as you've done here it almost pays to build the board around how you are going to carry/transport it.
Totally right about why I chose not to use the Temple board. It's the mounting system that I'm not crazy about. Again, it's not that it doesn't work, it's a personal preference, and I feel I can be way more creative with the positioning and design with using dual lock.
I can also see why Temple's add-ons like the I/O module are very attractive for people, it's a great idea.
Can't wait to see you play at Essaouira with the Brecker Brothers Janek !
Thanks for sharing all this with us Janek. I've never used pedals in the past, but you're giving me some great ideas. I think I'm slowly becoming a convert :-)
JG It is a great encyclopedia of how to use pedals as musical tools for us bass players throughout all these years for free. I just thank you!
Love this style of video janek. You have kept me company while i polished my work shoes!
This is great, man. I am about to simplify my touring setup with an HX STOMP. Thanks for this video. Cheers 🥂✨
We have subtitles 🫶🏼🙌🏼! Some time ago I had the Seamoon Funk Machine thinking about that sound of the Brecker Brothers; Some Skunk Funk. But where the sound of the pedal is most prominent is in Roxy Music's song on Disco Avalon's The Main Thing track.
Hey thanks for the vid very cool small board! Quick question, I am thinking about buying an HX Stomp, is it possible to take a DI signal from the HX to FOH that would have any EFX blocks as well as an Amp and Cab sim while sending just the EFX blocks signal minus the Amp/Cab sims to an amp? Thanks!
34:52 just flip the placement of the first 2 pedals so the octave is on top with the input going up away from you instead. It would mean a slightly longer cable run from the filter to the stomp, but it's not too bad
I considered that, but I need to access the octave way more than the filter so it's a little more convenient to on the front. I'll use a right-angle instrument cable into the octave to avoid catching it with my foot.
Did you arrange the octave and envelope pedals so their switches were close to the Stomp for a reason? Like ease of getting power to them? Or keeping the switches close together? Having feet like flippers myself, I'd have been minded to arrange the octave and envelope switches so they were at the edge of the board so it'd be less likely to catch the Stomp's switches inadvertently. Would be interested to know the design decision on that front
The layout was all about the location of the power inputs plus the ease of using one small patch cable between the octave and the filter. It keeps the cabling neat.
Don't know if you already thought of this, but if you want a preamp you could start the signal from the hxstomp with the preamp you like and then use the send/returns for the octave and envelope, i use that exact setup and for me it works amazingly. The only problem i find is that i would like to use an analog compressor since i don't like the stomp ones, do you use in the stomp that works well for you?
There are major issues with the AD/DA conversion in the send/return on the HX Stomp. It destroys the natural sound of the bass when you have the block bypassed. I don't know why more bass players aren't experiencing this when they use the feature...
@@janekgwizdalaI haven't noticed any changes on my tone, but i might have to check again just in case. Thanks for the tip!
Yes, Neil Jason was very involved in the new Seamoon pedals... In fact, he's the owner of the company. Seamoon and Manhattan Basses, too.
Also, your stream-of-consciousness narration on this is actually quite entertaining.
Lots of videos lately ! So cool ! Thanks Janek
Hey Janek! Thanks for taking the time to show your build. Love your intentionality with everything you do. Just out of curiosity what camera set up are you using these days? Cheers!
Could you leave the subtitles option on your RUclips channel activated so that those of us who speak Spanish can better understand the content of your videos, greetings Janeck
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Great video thanks! Im going to talk through with my therapist the lack of a Boss product on the board. In a few months i will probably be able to find a place of acceptance. 🤘😀👍😎
hahahaha. Yeah, it's a weird one to look at, but quite functional.
Cheers Janek!! I just made a similar battery powered flyboard. The ghost fire board on the Bezo site was $50. So convenient!!
I love my ghost Fire board! It's the only board I've found that's actually reasonably priced! $100+ for a metal frame is a scam, but $30 for a metal frame and a bag is tolerable.
Thanks for sharing
Yep. Fits fine.
How does the HX Stomp screen do in direct sunlight? If you've run into this problem before, you know it can be more than just an annoyance, it can change your overall performance.
gee wiz gwizdala! moving again??!!
can u easily just copy any settings and patches u created on the white hx stomp to the black one?
My pedalboard consists of a Fishman Pro EQ & a UA 1176 Compressor. Sometimes use a Sansamp Bass Driver DI.
Great vid! I love small boards like this. Quick question about your Mattisson, do you think the 32” scale sacrifices anything in the lower positions? I love the idea of a more ergonomic instrument, and im curious if the 32” works well for all registers or if it’s just better for solo playing. You’re an inspiration man!
I think it's amazing in the lower register. I play all scales of basses on a regular basis and I never feel I'm lacking with low-end punch on the 32".
HX Stomp has balanced outputs, so why do you need a DI? For EQ, you can use hX stomp for that as well, just curios
XLR out I imagine, just easier for sound techs
@@cdcgb1 my band mate has short cable TRS to female XLR on his HX Effect. The only thing is DI’s has ground button. I was contacting Line 6 about it, try to figure it out - they said you don’t need it, it will adjust your impedance and you already have balance output 🤷🏻♂️
But everyone on RUclips is using DI’s with their HX Stomps 🤷🏻♂️
Because I still need to rely on a DI pedal to go to the front of house, and I'd much rather have control over that, especially with the added bonus of EQ that the MXR Bass Preamp gives me.
I could use the EQ in the Stomp, but that means using an EQ block on every preset. I like to have EQ separate from the multi fx, just like the octave and the filter. The Stomp is amazing for certain things, but in some areas it's still in its infancy.
@@janekgwizdala You can go straight from HX to FOH. HX has Di built in. The only difference - its TRS output (Stereo Jack) instead of XLR. You can get TRS/XLR adapter and your good.
Janek, if I may ask, why did you pick the MXR over the sushi box Finally V2 for this board? Given the similar size, dice thought it’d be an easy choice. Power requirements?
Because I don't own the Sushi Box. I also might still have chosen the MXR for this board even if I did though, just because it was such a rough stretch of traveling into a pretty hostile environment. I'm not sure how much I would have been into having a tube out in the middle of nowhere in Morocco for a gig.
@@janekgwizdala makes total sense. Wind-blown sand + electronics doesn’t sound like a great combo, for sure. Admittedly, when you mentioned not wanting to drag a tube through a hostile environment, the very first thing to come to mind was “stage juice” before I realized you were talking about Morocco 😂
I’m looking at putting a tube stage after my HX, Finally seems to fit the bill. I’m just a little cheap and lazy (the weight) to put the noble on my board.
Anything else you’d recommend looking at in between the prices of the Noble/REDDI and the Finally for warming before putting it through a DI (if it isn’t a DI anyway)? I love my HX through my Mesa TT800, but as soon as I run direct it just sounds a bit sterile for my taste.
Honestly, I’ve considered just sending a dry pre-EQ out of my Mesa (nice clean tube in the input gain stage). But it’d be great to get something on a board and not have to also carry around an amp.
Have to say, I feel like a weenie for even insinuating that carrying an 8lb, small class D head is a “burden” when I think back to the glory days of 125-lb 2x10’s in the 90’s and 00’s haha
Why don't you use the DI function on the stomp as it would be last in the signal chain without the DI option you use now?
Because there is no DI option in the stomp… no XLR out.
Why did you not place the foot switch of the envelope and octave to the outside of the board? Would that not make foot switching access easier? (As in octave on top, filter on the bottom of the board.) Or did that make the cable connectivity a mess?
Connectivity would have been a little bit more complicated that way, and I need access to the octave pedal way more than the filter so I like that one closer to my right foot on the bottom of the board.
@@janekgwizdala gotcha - I guess you are a more experienced and nuanced pedal dancer than most! 😄
Why not put the TDI on it's side??
Looks like it would have fit almost perfectly?
Besides being pretty ugly... It actually sits a little too high on the board.
Janek Please leave the Spanish subtitles activated, your videos are the best
Subtitles/Auto-Translate/Spanish
Man, love your content! Just needed to point out that those little phrases in spanish sounding surprisingly native 👀👀
😂 my wife is half Cuban and I try and speak to my daughter in Spanish as much as possible in the house.
i could not afford the "helloy duo" or whatever its called, so i had a friend 3d print one shaped like an L , and then i built it myself and but it on the side of the HX stomp so i still have the acces to the Send and return ports, coasted me like 3euro insted of 50 euro that the Duo coast :P
Yep, the details underneath, that's the tricky part!
I’ve been looking to make a smaller pedalboard myself and was looking at the HX Stomp. Could you give the link for the aux switches for the Stomp? Thanks.
pedalnetics.com/product-tag/hx-stomp/
@@janekgwizdala thank you!
Ho, where can we find the playalongs videos linked in your books? The Janek studio doesn't exist anymore right?
The bass studio closed its doors to new members some time ago now, but some of the courses are available at my website. You can find all the videos and play alongs at my website also.
Great Janek !!
I use the Temple Duo 17 with the 3m dual lock
could you not fit the dc7 under that board? Yes you'd have 2 unused spots but at least then you don't have to use a splitter
The output of each power spot on the cioks is so powerful that using a splitter is way less of an issue than you might think. The DC7 is also significantly heavier and almost twice the size of the 4, so it's a space and weight saving thing too.
Show us some cable soldering!
What about the Hx with the TH/DI by Aguilar ?
If I didn't need any other pedals outside of the Stomp, I could have chosen literally any DI in my collection. Anything from the MXR to the Noble. But there wasn't space for anything bigger than the MXR Bass Preamp on this board as I needed the octave and the filter.
Would you try putting the teletronix on its side. It would be tall on the board but not that tall.
It was a possibility, but it sits too high on the board to be comfortable, and kind of ugly looking too...
The pedalnetics add-on for the Stomp is the highest I want to go.
Why the MXR Bass Preamp?
Did you watch the video…? I’m guessing not
@@janekgwizdala i've missed that moment ;)
I genuinely started to feel anxiety watching you get the Velcro off; just waiting for another hand injury. The relief was palpable . . .
Tell you what - you’re dead right about the PedalTrain flight case handle. It’s horrible and I’m concerned it’ll eventually bruise my hand on the way to a gig. I’m gonna drill it out and replace it.
Does it ever dawn on folks just how rich lots of people who make YT videos for music and art actually are? I view YT more and more as a way to show this divide. Sure, we do bridge this divide, but dang…some folks just seem to have endless supplies of cash and that happen to make YT channels and videos for it.
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 is that aimed at me? Or just a general statement?
I’d love you to point out exactly where I have all the cash stashed if it was directed at me. I can’t find it anywhere.
Why such the fascination with pedals?!
Because they’re a huge part of my live sound and are very creative tools.
Insupportable !! Arrête de t écouter parler
EP Booster taped to the Bass?
Can't someone make you a signiture Bass WITH the EP Booster/Echoplex preamp circuit built in?