Chevy Chase wasn’t forced out by Dan Harmon, he wanted to leave and literally wouldn’t show up to set some days in season 4 so they had to work around it a lot. It was known he wasn’t gonna be in season 5 so he got a very quick exit in the finale of season 4. Him even having a cameo was because Dan Harmon reached out to him.
This. People need to know that Chevy would regularly call Donald racial slurs on set in order to mess up his rhythm in an attempt to sabotage someone he knew was talented.
@@colin2563 chevy and donald respected each other a lot. He made a lot of insensitive jokes sure but why is everyone so quick to jump on to harmons dick (a man who is known to be a shitty person who sexually harassed many women) call me crazy but id take a eccentric and slighty racially insensitive old man over a middle aged pervert.
@@colin2563 BULLSHIT. That's what Harmon(himself a recovering harasser) said that Chase said. There were no slurs, just non pc jokes, which a white liberal type, that Harmon was, perceived(read as-was offended on behalf of) it to be so, that Glover never took seriously and Chevy never intended any racism. Even back then people like yall were just looking for gossip.
Donald Glover was only going to be in the first few episodes of season 5 because he was leaving to pursue Childish Gambino 6:10. Dan the man back with the meta jokes
@@lRomez How could they pick up on it? They are watching the show for the 1st time(exluding Chris), so I'm pretty sure they have no idea that Donald is leaving.
@@fsdejf The same way they knew about Harmon leaving before season 4 before they started watching it... and knew he was back this season before watching it. Some info about the show reaches them beforehand.
@@cheekyboomboom8973 Well I guess that's different, cause everyone was vocal about season 4 specifically, but they didn't even know about Pierce here, so they probably don't know about Donald as well.
I'll try to say this without being mean like some of the other comments. To Marketa's point about it feeling forced... well, yes, it is forced. It's a re-pilot during the middle of a show's run... it can't not be forced. There's no natural way to have them all come back to school after 4 years of studies for the characters. But what the writers did was they embraced it and went hard with the jokes, both meta and non-meta, about the "restart". The overall writing is so much more clever than season 4.
The situation is not that forced I didn't mind that part at all, but the writing and jokes can be for large parts of season 5. As much as it is a little better than season 4, it is not an extreme difference by any stretch and has plenty of issues. The highs in season 3 were great, but it was already slowly declining from the first 2 as an overall series. And even if you cut season 4 out, that trend continues into 5. Season 4 was not as bad as the complaints it gets suggest. It was slightly worse, but also written very differently in some ways. Those who are hardcore fans, which is most community fans, were never going to embrace an entirely different and more laid back writing style at the core of the show. And so the backlash is vastly worse than the reality of the situation as a result.
One thing I noticed was season 4 was pretty light hearted compared to the other seasons. Most episodes ended on a happy we're a family note and there was no overarching plot besides changnesia that didnt really go anywhere. In this season Dan comes out guns blazing with the grim shit like Jeff failing and Shirley's family leaving her.
It was the first season with only 13 episodes, they were learning how to do the longer arcs. As for light hearted, I don’t know. The thanksgiving scene with Jeff and his dad is pretty deep.
''It feels forced.'' THATS THE JOKE. Dan Harmon came back with a bulldozer and threw all the shit ideas from season 4 away, very harshly and called it a GAS LEAK YEAR.
@@joevictor53 there were a few good moments of course (abed and Rachel, felt surrogacy, and I even didn't mind Halloween or the Germans episode mainly for the part about them always having the study room) but it was just pretty poorly written all around. Because of the shorter season and Dan Harmon getting fired, the show lost its footing and had to act like they had a plan. When in reality, the episodes have big problems like timeline continuity errors (Troy and britta relationship) and the characters just not being like themselves.
@@joevictor53 well they were more interesting in the wind up to a potential relationship, but then their relationship got no focus and didn't develop. Not to mention while they were great friends, their romantic chemistry wasn't all that great. I say continuity errors because Troy and Brittas relationship was building for a while but they didn't officially get together until the start of season 4. The season itself had a bunch of continuity problems and there was an episode later about their relationship having a 1 year anniversary, which would make no sense unless they technically got together the year before, but Jeff acknowledges that it didn't in the s4 premiere saying "thats progressed"
Connor Chmel fair enough. That makes sense. Although I do feel like part of the blame should be on Dan Harmon for that. He set up the whole them getting together while most fans I've seen say it was a mistake. These guys had to follow through with it and break it up to get back to normal. I just finished season 4 on my current run and in that episode you mention, they say it's the first anniversary of their first which did actually happen in season 3 in the Dreamatorium episode. One contuinity error that bothers me is Annie liking Jeff again. In that same episode of season 3, Annie basically accepts that she's not into Jeff anymore but season 4 has her do the whole Mrs Winger thing at the hotel and forget that character development
I get what Marketa is saying - it is an abrupt shift from S4 to S5 Repilot. However I will just point out that, regardless of the changes in the creative team behind the scenes, for this show to go past 4 seasons when its supposed to be about a bunch of people earning 4 year degrees, you need to somehow force them to stay together. Or else the show is over. If they've all graduated then they would be out there working or job hunting, maybe still hanging out but not as much. The show could have left Greendale and been centered around a shared apartment, but that would feel generic, as its one of the most common settings for sitcoms. Plus Greendale is this established, built out environment that enables a kind of magic realism. And it has great side characters. So coming back to campus just makes sense. Then the question is - how to do you get the characters to do that? A combination of professional and personal failures plus Jeff unintentionally serving as a rallying force to help them make the school a better place seems pretty natural to me.
@@Phantasmlovecraft even they admit it suffers from not having the time they thought they'd have and losing both Donald and Chevy. But Meow Meow Beenz...BLACK MIRROR wishes it could milk a concept that good
23:30 I liked Scrubs season 9, but the reason it didn't work out is because the network insisted on pushing it as "season 9" when it was actually intended to be season 1 of a spinoff called "Scrubs: Med School" and that made the departure / minimized roles of so much of the original cast stand out that much worse.
Steve Nightfall if it was that loud from the hall, you would think they’d comment on it? It feels like they accidentally mixed in a sound channel from another reaction or something
@@@chrisjsewell @Brolog Sanctum - I might be wrong but to me it looks like they're in some kind of common room in a hotel or apartment or something? There might very well be more people in the room. I don't think it's audio from another reaction or one of the normies as there's a point at about 14:10 that you can clearly here someone call out the name Johnson. They maybe didn't realize how much the mic was picking up. The fact Suraj kind of held it up to everyone during the start leads me to think they probably thought it wasn't picking much up.
Another note. Notice when they are talking during the intro music (without the picture in picture), the music comes through quite loud. If the mic picks up that much from the TV I'd find it reasonable to say that it would pick up a fair bit from a somewhat noisy hall or room next door.
I don't feel forced personally , I think once you get boned with a place or a stuff , you'll stick to it even you don't realized , Jeff has changed and he can't be the person he used to be , the only way he survive both physically and mentally , he can't leave out Greendale , which a trash place but he love it . So I'm cool with this kind of change :)
So I stopped watching Community after season 3, and now that it's on Netflix I'm watching the rest. I always heard season four was bad. And it definitely did feel like something was off. Had its moments. I just watched this episode like 10 minutes ago, and I thought it was better than all of season four lol
Everyone did graduate, did you not see the season 4 finale? Everyone would graduate that year, Jeff just did it early. Every season is 1 school year so ofcourse season 5 doesn't take place still in their fourth year.
17:25 Did seriously no one recognize that Zach Braff from Scrubs was doing his traditional narration? It was a call back to earlier in the episode when they brought up Scrubs season 9, and how Zach Braff deserved to be in more than just a few episodes after everything the show has done for him.
Although I don't necessarily agree with her, I think some people are being way too hard on Marketa for voicing her opinion. Jeez guys, chill. She never said the show is trash. She just said she wasn't a fan of how this episode was handled.
Community has always been a bit nonsensical. It's at its best when it's absurd, I think. The fact that this episode doesn't make a lot of sense is part of what I think makes it great.
"Season 9 of Scrubs, Zach Braff was only in the first 6 episodes" "That SOB, after everything Scrubbs did for him?!" "Season 5 of Community, Donald Glover was only in the first 5 episodes" "That SOB, after everything Community did for him?!"
Dayum guys. This audio makes it almost unwatchable. usually throwing a mic on your coffee table is fine but Try adding another one pointing down at you as well if there is a party going on in the same room.
Guys, cmon. It's a bit forced. And some of ya'll are going "well duh OF COURSE its forced" and then still are annoyed with Martika. Her opinion is that it's forced. Be chill. No need to call her stupid and shit. I genuinely like pretty much every episode of this series but between the Chevy Chase stuff, Donald Glover leaving, the whole fact they got in this mess cause NBC kicked Dan Harmon, and to be frank Dan Harmon's own vices as a show runner during this whole ordeal, writing this show was kind of tough and trying to come back after season 4 was awkward. So yeah, Martika feeling like this episode was "forced" is far from a big sin guys.
A few remarks : "How they made paint ball cool again" ? How... demanding XD What were those loud noises, btw ? Were there animals in the next room ? Talk about awful conditions. How could you not look annoyed ? "How did you become the group's airhead ?" ---> Simple, Harmon. Your bad writing. Do better, now ! "You just described slavery" ---> That was a great line, though.
I feel like there's way too much idolising of Dan Harmon tbh. Season 4 was still a very good season of television, not as good as the first three but a hell of a lot more fun than season 5 or 6. Harmon sexually harassed his writers, abused alcohol when he should have been working, and essentially made himself a nuisance, which is why he got fired. I agree with Marketa about it feeling forced. This underhanded shit talking of season 4 by the characters is petty and infantile, just like Harmon.
100% agree. Well said and thanks for saying this! I can't believe how much disrespect he shows in-show for season 4 when they cared enough to keep the show going and did a pretty good job honoring what it's about. I think Dan Harmon has some clever ideas with his shows, but it always baffles me how many of the fans perpetuate his disrespect for season 4 and praise him as some kind of irreplaceable genius without acknowledging the fact that, by many accounts, he acted pretty terribly and it's solely his fault he couldn't be there. And they did a fine job continuing the show without him! Imo it's not as witty or joke heavy as some other seasons but it does have a lot of heart and a lot of good moments, and it's not without some moments that genuinely made me laugh as much as any other season .
I get the gas leak year thing, but to me it feels petty and dickish. It's funny, but spoilers season 4 still had SOME good stuff in it so, just rude to be like yeah it was ALL A GAS LEAK.
Eh, I think it's about the most diplomatic possible way of saying "that last season felt off, didnt it?" He could have easily gone harder on it, but Harmon liked and respected lots of the people that worked on season 4, even if both he and the fans hated a substantial majority of it.
Coming super late to this reaction as I just started watching the channel. As a rebuttal to Marketa's opinion, the show has done parodies throughout the four seasons, and this is another example. There are tons of shows that are restructured because of behind the scenes issues and this is a parody of that/actually happening behind the scenes. When you look at the episode in that light, it makes sense, especially when you remember that the show has taken a lot of liberties with realism in the past. Now for folks being assholes for Marketa having an opinion, grow up and go have conversations with real people.
I'd say the choice to have the protagonists return to Greendale is justified by the way the college functions as a purgatory metaphor. If you're tracking the characters' arcs based on their arrested development, as well as their attachment to the study group as a source of emotional security, it all tracks.
I'm with Micky... I'd rather them reset the show and go back to doing what they're best at, rather than trying to make use of other people's stories that are something they never wanted to do. Rip off the bandaid, move on, go back to the basics.
Meh, it's not as forced as other shows that retool themselves due to sudden cast changes like That 70s Show or complete overhauls like Scrubs. And the explanation they offer is really quite reasonable given what Greendale was already established to be, that it's kind of a crappy school. It makes sense that the graduates end up with flailing careers and broken dreams and an exploitative lawyer could manipulate some of them to sue the school. I'm surprised nobody mentioned that Repilot is a reinterpretation of the pilot episode. It's kind of impressive imo that Harmon managed to do that while resetting the characters and still made it make sense and be as funny and sharp as always.
The show is back to being clever again and meta in such a good way now that Harmon is back in charge. And in the dialogue he blames last season (which he hated) on a gas leak. So good. And Harmon needed to reboot everyone because he didn’t want the gang to graduate at the end of season 4. He had to get them back in positions that he wanted and kind of yada yada the stuff he didn’t like from last season like the Changnesia stuff.
The problem with season 4 was it messed up so many characters arcs it became aparody or homage to community. its became community trying to do community and at times it worked but most of the time it didnt. Some of season 4's episodes are great but they miss that harmon flare more often than not. My favourite season 4 episode is the freaky friday one it feels so community and it makes sense becuase it was written by The Dean ( Jim Rash )
I'm just so happy season 4 is done. It was a more bearable to watch with you guys, partly because you cut it down to the best 10 minutes, cutting out the crappy other 10 minutes, lol. But yeah, I think season 5's writing is just so much better. Iffy on season 6 though.
20:54 I actually agree with marketa for the first time. Season 4 wasnt bad at all in my opinion. The way all the arcs ended it didn't seem forced at all. It seems like it because they rebooted it. And because of that they had to create reasons to keep them at the school. Honestly the show could have ended in seasons 3 and/or 4 and nothing would have seemed forced but because Dan is back and they get more seasons they have to bring them back to greendale and I understand why. I will say that Dan shitting on all the progress of season 4 is gonna come off like him being a asshole but it's all part of being a realistic show. These are real problems and sometimes in life things don't happen as expected. They had to restart, hence the name of the episode. Also with him doing that he gets to end the show how he wants so it's a win-win
YES PLEASE WATCH SCRUBS...... that.... show.... is.... my..... JAM. I used to annoy all my coworkers by saying "oh that reminds me of season __ ep __ where...." ect ect...
If you've been watching from the start, you'd know that season 4 is mostly mediocre. The writing went downhill since Dan Harmon left that season but I do love season 5! Season 6 is good as well.
Ofcourse the guy that doesn't know anything that is happening and asks the dumbest questions in every reaction is the one that actually thought they made paintball cool again.
Aaaaaaaaand we're back! Sorry, had to miss a few weeks but I already saw season 4 when it first came out and I couldn't justify wasting another minute of my life on it.
I like you guys, but you were weirdly harder on this episode than any part of season 4, and I don't get it. Warts and all, this is still substantially better than 95% of season 4. It just had a difficult task in setting up a logical reason for people to stick around.
I couldn't disagree with her more. In what world was any of these seasons "natural"? How is this forced? She clearly doesn't understand what sheet is trying to say. Just say you didn't like it. Don't try to sound smart when your not actually saying anything of substance. She's always been the least fun to watch because she never gets the more subtle humor, and she gets offended or mad at things for no reason.
It's clear what she's saying. It was natural because they were going to school, to get a degree, and move on and do things in life. The characters all moved on, Jeff and Pierce graduated, they're all living different lives, and them coming back to Greendale was forced because there wasn't any real reason to. That's her opinion. Mine is different. I like the way they brought them back, the fact it was a bit contrived was funny. Even Abed pointed out earlier, about Jeff returning as a teacher and it being a sitcom trope and how lame it was, but as I said, I found that funny. You don't have to attack somebody because their opinion is different. Appreciate where they're coming from and that you both take away different things from the same material. That's what makes it great.
@@aznthy lol wow duck sauce just responding to every comment, constructive like this one, or not, with "incel". You really showing your idiocy on full blast
She actually does. The only problem is there is no other way to bring everyone back together to the same place without it being forced and the writers are not unaware of that. Maybe she was looking forward to seeing the aftermath of them living their lives and interacting with each other after graduation and that's why she doesn't know what to feel about it. There is no natural way to bring them back together, so forced is not inaccurate. I think she just missed that it was done purposefully or she was anticipating the show to go in a different direction instead of everyone conveniently needing to come back to school for whatever reason so she's iffy about it.
The funnies are funnier in Season 5 sometimes, but the characters are Flanderized, dumbed down, and turned bad more in this season than in any other, unfortunately. That said, I enjoyed this opening episode.
Season 4 was imo probably the weakest season overall but it had some great episodes. I quite liked Intro to Felt Surrogacy, Basic Human Anatomy, Heroic Origins, and Advanced Introduction to Finality.
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Chevy Chase wasn’t forced out by Dan Harmon, he wanted to leave and literally wouldn’t show up to set some days in season 4 so they had to work around it a lot. It was known he wasn’t gonna be in season 5 so he got a very quick exit in the finale of season 4. Him even having a cameo was because Dan Harmon reached out to him.
Also because he said the n word
This. People need to know that Chevy would regularly call Donald racial slurs on set in order to mess up his rhythm in an attempt to sabotage someone he knew was talented.
@@colin2563 100% a lie.
@@colin2563 chevy and donald respected each other a lot. He made a lot of insensitive jokes sure but why is everyone so quick to jump on to harmons dick (a man who is known to be a shitty person who sexually harassed many women) call me crazy but id take a eccentric and slighty racially insensitive old man over a middle aged pervert.
@@colin2563 BULLSHIT.
That's what Harmon(himself a recovering harasser) said that Chase said. There were no slurs, just non pc jokes, which a white liberal type, that Harmon was, perceived(read as-was offended on behalf of) it to be so, that Glover never took seriously and Chevy never intended any racism.
Even back then people like yall were just looking for gossip.
Donald Glover was only going to be in the first few episodes of season 5 because he was leaving to pursue Childish Gambino 6:10. Dan the man back with the meta jokes
Can’t believe they didn’t pick up on this joke. Also Donald did NOT leave to pursue Childish Gambino.
@@lRomez How could they pick up on it? They are watching the show for the 1st time(exluding Chris), so I'm pretty sure they have no idea that Donald is leaving.
@@fsdejf The same way they knew about Harmon leaving before season 4 before they started watching it... and knew he was back this season before watching it. Some info about the show reaches them beforehand.
@@cheekyboomboom8973 Well I guess that's different, cause everyone was vocal about season 4 specifically, but they didn't even know about Pierce here, so they probably don't know about Donald as well.
He left because they were always on the brink of being canceled and FX give him the green light for Atlanta
I'll try to say this without being mean like some of the other comments. To Marketa's point about it feeling forced... well, yes, it is forced. It's a re-pilot during the middle of a show's run... it can't not be forced. There's no natural way to have them all come back to school after 4 years of studies for the characters. But what the writers did was they embraced it and went hard with the jokes, both meta and non-meta, about the "restart". The overall writing is so much more clever than season 4.
That's all she was saying. So many of these comments insulting her are so stupid.
Dan Harmon... clever?
@TheKarlOshaughnessy "typical of people from her country"... case and point.
The situation is not that forced I didn't mind that part at all, but the writing and jokes can be for large parts of season 5. As much as it is a little better than season 4, it is not an extreme difference by any stretch and has plenty of issues.
The highs in season 3 were great, but it was already slowly declining from the first 2 as an overall series. And even if you cut season 4 out, that trend continues into 5.
Season 4 was not as bad as the complaints it gets suggest. It was slightly worse, but also written very differently in some ways. Those who are hardcore fans, which is most community fans, were never going to embrace an entirely different and more laid back writing style at the core of the show. And so the backlash is vastly worse than the reality of the situation as a result.
@@MegaJufy Good writers are clever??i never heard that.
"That's like me blaming owls for how much I suck at analogies" has to be my favorite line from the entire sow.
Donald Glover at 6:04 after everything community did for him
One thing I noticed was season 4 was pretty light hearted compared to the other seasons. Most episodes ended on a happy we're a family note and there was no overarching plot besides changnesia that didnt really go anywhere. In this season Dan comes out guns blazing with the grim shit like Jeff failing and Shirley's family leaving her.
It was the first season with only 13 episodes, they were learning how to do the longer arcs.
As for light hearted, I don’t know. The thanksgiving scene with Jeff and his dad is pretty deep.
then there was the puppet confessions and origin story pretty depressing
@@bLuGhOsT_ 🤮puppet episode
''It feels forced.'' THATS THE JOKE. Dan Harmon came back with a bulldozer and threw all the shit ideas from season 4 away, very harshly and called it a GAS LEAK YEAR.
uchiha itachi best not all of season 4 was shit
@@joevictor53 there were a few good moments of course (abed and Rachel, felt surrogacy, and I even didn't mind Halloween or the Germans episode mainly for the part about them always having the study room) but it was just pretty poorly written all around. Because of the shorter season and Dan Harmon getting fired, the show lost its footing and had to act like they had a plan. When in reality, the episodes have big problems like timeline continuity errors (Troy and britta relationship) and the characters just not being like themselves.
@@WouldYouKindlyNot What exactly do you mean about the Troy/Britta relationship?
@@joevictor53 well they were more interesting in the wind up to a potential relationship, but then their relationship got no focus and didn't develop. Not to mention while they were great friends, their romantic chemistry wasn't all that great.
I say continuity errors because Troy and Brittas relationship was building for a while but they didn't officially get together until the start of season 4. The season itself had a bunch of continuity problems and there was an episode later about their relationship having a 1 year anniversary, which would make no sense unless they technically got together the year before, but Jeff acknowledges that it didn't in the s4 premiere saying "thats progressed"
Connor Chmel fair enough. That makes sense. Although I do feel like part of the blame should be on Dan Harmon for that. He set up the whole them getting together while most fans I've seen say it was a mistake. These guys had to follow through with it and break it up to get back to normal. I just finished season 4 on my current run and in that episode you mention, they say it's the first anniversary of their first which did actually happen in season 3 in the Dreamatorium episode. One contuinity error that bothers me is Annie liking Jeff again. In that same episode of season 3, Annie basically accepts that she's not into Jeff anymore but season 4 has her do the whole Mrs Winger thing at the hotel and forget that character development
I get what Marketa is saying - it is an abrupt shift from S4 to S5 Repilot. However I will just point out that, regardless of the changes in the creative team behind the scenes, for this show to go past 4 seasons when its supposed to be about a bunch of people earning 4 year degrees, you need to somehow force them to stay together. Or else the show is over.
If they've all graduated then they would be out there working or job hunting, maybe still hanging out but not as much. The show could have left Greendale and been centered around a shared apartment, but that would feel generic, as its one of the most common settings for sitcoms. Plus Greendale is this established, built out environment that enables a kind of magic realism. And it has great side characters. So coming back to campus just makes sense. Then the question is - how to do you get the characters to do that? A combination of professional and personal failures plus Jeff unintentionally serving as a rallying force to help them make the school a better place seems pretty natural to me.
Maaaan this season is crazy....Fincher parody...lava....And of course....MEOW MEOW BEANZ
Oh yeah mepwmeow episode was good but I really didnt like this season all that much
I might just be stupid, but which episode was the fincher parody?
@@limepie3025 I'm not entirely sure, but i think it's the one with the Ass Crack Bandit. 5x03 i believe.
@@limepie3025 Ass Crack Bandit is Greendales Zodiac Killer
@@Phantasmlovecraft even they admit it suffers from not having the time they thought they'd have and losing both Donald and Chevy. But Meow Meow Beenz...BLACK MIRROR wishes it could milk a concept that good
23:30 I liked Scrubs season 9, but the reason it didn't work out is because the network insisted on pushing it as "season 9" when it was actually intended to be season 1 of a spinoff called "Scrubs: Med School" and that made the departure / minimized roles of so much of the original cast stand out that much worse.
I'd definitely be okay with it if it was a spinoff, but either way, the protagonist of season 9 was not *nearly* as likeable as JD.
Also... Season 8 was like the best season. That, or I hated the weird ending of 7 so much that 8 just felt like a long awaited gift.
What's wrong with the sound? Are there people in the background screaming, partying? Wth?
@@LadyPumpkin204 It's clearly not...
You can see the open door reflection in the window. They're picking up audio from the hallway.
Steve Nightfall if it was that loud from the hall, you would think they’d comment on it?
It feels like they accidentally mixed in a sound channel from another reaction or something
@@@chrisjsewell @Brolog Sanctum - I might be wrong but to me it looks like they're in some kind of common room in a hotel or apartment or something? There might very well be more people in the room. I don't think it's audio from another reaction or one of the normies as there's a point at about 14:10 that you can clearly here someone call out the name Johnson. They maybe didn't realize how much the mic was picking up. The fact Suraj kind of held it up to everyone during the start leads me to think they probably thought it wasn't picking much up.
Another note. Notice when they are talking during the intro music (without the picture in picture), the music comes through quite loud. If the mic picks up that much from the TV I'd find it reasonable to say that it would pick up a fair bit from a somewhat noisy hall or room next door.
I don't feel forced personally , I think once you get boned with a place or a stuff , you'll stick to it even you don't realized , Jeff has changed and he can't be the person he used to be , the only way he survive both physically and mentally , he can't leave out Greendale , which a trash place but he love it . So I'm cool with this kind of change :)
I love the joke from Troy when he trashes Scrubs actor for 6 episode. Because Donald Glover does the exact same
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So I stopped watching Community after season 3, and now that it's on Netflix I'm watching the rest. I always heard season four was bad. And it definitely did feel like something was off. Had its moments. I just watched this episode like 10 minutes ago, and I thought it was better than all of season four lol
Same! This one made me laugh so much harder than anything in season 4
Everyone did graduate, did you not see the season 4 finale? Everyone would graduate that year, Jeff just did it early. Every season is 1 school year so ofcourse season 5 doesn't take place still in their fourth year.
At least Harmon got Pierce into this episode.
I love this episode so much. So many great callbacks
17:25 Did seriously no one recognize that Zach Braff from Scrubs was doing his traditional narration?
It was a call back to earlier in the episode when they brought up Scrubs season 9, and how Zach Braff deserved to be in more than just a few episodes after everything the show has done for him.
Although I don't necessarily agree with her, I think some people are being way too hard on Marketa for voicing her opinion. Jeez guys, chill. She never said the show is trash. She just said she wasn't a fan of how this episode was handled.
I'm not triggered about her being cold in Miami in a house with cold weather clothes on. What a joke, lol
@@Usurpationblitz What?
Community has always been a bit nonsensical. It's at its best when it's absurd, I think. The fact that this episode doesn't make a lot of sense is part of what I think makes it great.
I'm surprised no one mentioned that Zach Braff narrated the end of this episode.
The dean was doing ASBESTOS he could!
I actually laughed at this :’)
@@skyraven9079 :)
"Season 9 of Scrubs, Zach Braff was only in the first 6 episodes"
"That SOB, after everything Scrubbs did for him?!"
"Season 5 of Community, Donald Glover was only in the first 5 episodes"
"That SOB, after everything Community did for him?!"
To be farirrrrrrr, he did a lot for Community to. I'm glad it was a clean breakup.
k just remember that meow meow beans came before nosedive.
Only if time is linear.
@@existenceisrelative I'll make your ass linear!
@@evildeathcuddles886 that doesn't make sense
@@sinsei2165 i'll make your ass sense!
Dayum guys. This audio makes it almost unwatchable. usually throwing a mic on your coffee table is fine but Try adding another one pointing down at you as well if there is a party going on in the same room.
"That was his thesis" cracked me UP.
So awesome when you can keep watching on reflection
Guys, cmon. It's a bit forced. And some of ya'll are going "well duh OF COURSE its forced" and then still are annoyed with Martika. Her opinion is that it's forced. Be chill. No need to call her stupid and shit.
I genuinely like pretty much every episode of this series but between the Chevy Chase stuff, Donald Glover leaving, the whole fact they got in this mess cause NBC kicked Dan Harmon, and to be frank Dan Harmon's own vices as a show runner during this whole ordeal, writing this show was kind of tough and trying to come back after season 4 was awkward.
So yeah, Martika feeling like this episode was "forced" is far from a big sin guys.
So Chevy Chase got like banned from the set.
He even got banned from SNL.
We do not talk about that which they call ‘season 9 of scrubs’.
It’s a joke on Glover himself, who spoilers only does 6 episodes himself before he leaves community to focus on his music and new tv show Atlanta.
Does the reflection violate the fair use timer? Lol that would be a cool loophole. Bc it's reflected and even out of focus
A few remarks :
"How they made paint ball cool again" ? How... demanding XD
What were those loud noises, btw ? Were there animals in the next room ? Talk about awful conditions. How could you not look annoyed ?
"How did you become the group's airhead ?" ---> Simple, Harmon. Your bad writing. Do better, now !
"You just described slavery" ---> That was a great line, though.
They were paying homage to the Abed quote from the previous episode.
Season 4 wasnt even that bad it's still better than most other comedy shows' best seasons. Tho granted its still community's worst season
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A good series with a good foundation and characters
Makes sense why their worst season was still decent
"Chang was faking Changnesia?"
I feel like there's way too much idolising of Dan Harmon tbh. Season 4 was still a very good season of television, not as good as the first three but a hell of a lot more fun than season 5 or 6. Harmon sexually harassed his writers, abused alcohol when he should have been working, and essentially made himself a nuisance, which is why he got fired. I agree with Marketa about it feeling forced. This underhanded shit talking of season 4 by the characters is petty and infantile, just like Harmon.
I honestly think season 4 was better than season 5 probably because all the characters changed and it wasn’t really the same show anymore.
100% agree. Well said and thanks for saying this! I can't believe how much disrespect he shows in-show for season 4 when they cared enough to keep the show going and did a pretty good job honoring what it's about. I think Dan Harmon has some clever ideas with his shows, but it always baffles me how many of the fans perpetuate his disrespect for season 4 and praise him as some kind of irreplaceable genius without acknowledging the fact that, by many accounts, he acted pretty terribly and it's solely his fault he couldn't be there. And they did a fine job continuing the show without him! Imo it's not as witty or joke heavy as some other seasons but it does have a lot of heart and a lot of good moments, and it's not without some moments that genuinely made me laugh as much as any other season .
I just watched the reflection in both halves of the doors
I get the gas leak year thing, but to me it feels petty and dickish. It's funny, but spoilers season 4 still had SOME good stuff in it so, just rude to be like yeah it was ALL A GAS LEAK.
Eh, I think it's about the most diplomatic possible way of saying "that last season felt off, didnt it?" He could have easily gone harder on it, but Harmon liked and respected lots of the people that worked on season 4, even if both he and the fans hated a substantial majority of it.
0:50 I identify with Chris. I always carry a small tin of lotion with me at all times. You won't catch me ashy out in these streets lmao
Oh dang, yall were in miami? I wish I knew that. Woulda kept an eye out for you.
Im pretty sure gas leak year is a reference to how the show was off the air for a year
Nope, its a joke to season’s 4 mediocrity meta wise
Coming super late to this reaction as I just started watching the channel. As a rebuttal to Marketa's opinion, the show has done parodies throughout the four seasons, and this is another example. There are tons of shows that are restructured because of behind the scenes issues and this is a parody of that/actually happening behind the scenes. When you look at the episode in that light, it makes sense, especially when you remember that the show has taken a lot of liberties with realism in the past.
Now for folks being assholes for Marketa having an opinion, grow up and go have conversations with real people.
16:10 lmao Rana's face
I'd say the choice to have the protagonists return to Greendale is justified by the way the college functions as a purgatory metaphor. If you're tracking the characters' arcs based on their arrested development, as well as their attachment to the study group as a source of emotional security, it all tracks.
This is a beautiful video
I'm with Micky... I'd rather them reset the show and go back to doing what they're best at, rather than trying to make use of other people's stories that are something they never wanted to do. Rip off the bandaid, move on, go back to the basics.
Fuck the gas leak year, it was garbage.
Meh, it's not as forced as other shows that retool themselves due to sudden cast changes like That 70s Show or complete overhauls like Scrubs. And the explanation they offer is really quite reasonable given what Greendale was already established to be, that it's kind of a crappy school. It makes sense that the graduates end up with flailing careers and broken dreams and an exploitative lawyer could manipulate some of them to sue the school.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned that Repilot is a reinterpretation of the pilot episode. It's kind of impressive imo that Harmon managed to do that while resetting the characters and still made it make sense and be as funny and sharp as always.
Yes!!!!! Watch Scrubs you’ll love it
The show is back to being clever again and meta in such a good way now that Harmon is back in charge. And in the dialogue he blames last season (which he hated) on a gas leak. So good. And Harmon needed to reboot everyone because he didn’t want the gang to graduate at the end of season 4. He had to get them back in positions that he wanted and kind of yada yada the stuff he didn’t like from last season like the Changnesia stuff.
why does it sound like someone's playing a normie video on full blast in the next room?
All the ppl in the background were so loud that I had to skip this one. Yikes
The problem with season 4 was it messed up so many characters arcs it became aparody or homage to community. its became community trying to do community and at times it worked but most of the time it didnt. Some of season 4's episodes are great but they miss that harmon flare more often than not. My favourite season 4 episode is the freaky friday one it feels so community and it makes sense becuase it was written by The Dean ( Jim Rash )
I'm just so happy season 4 is done. It was a more bearable to watch with you guys, partly because you cut it down to the best 10 minutes, cutting out the crappy other 10 minutes, lol. But yeah, I think season 5's writing is just so much better. Iffy on season 6 though.
The audio is death.
20:54 I actually agree with marketa for the first time. Season 4 wasnt bad at all in my opinion. The way all the arcs ended it didn't seem forced at all. It seems like it because they rebooted it. And because of that they had to create reasons to keep them at the school. Honestly the show could have ended in seasons 3 and/or 4 and nothing would have seemed forced but because Dan is back and they get more seasons they have to bring them back to greendale and I understand why. I will say that Dan shitting on all the progress of season 4 is gonna come off like him being a asshole but it's all part of being a realistic show. These are real problems and sometimes in life things don't happen as expected. They had to restart, hence the name of the episode. Also with him doing that he gets to end the show how he wants so it's a win-win
So no one noticed that zach braff did the voice over at the end?
Why does the thumbnail have images that aren’t from this episode?
Y'all DO need to watch scrubs.
YES PLEASE WATCH SCRUBS...... that.... show.... is.... my..... JAM. I used to annoy all my coworkers by saying "oh that reminds me of season __ ep __ where...." ect ect...
"I want to kill myself."
"Use that."
Bad audio loop
If you've been watching from the start, you'd know that season 4 is mostly mediocre. The writing went downhill since Dan Harmon left that season but I do love season 5! Season 6 is good as well.
3:57 AUTOTUNE
Pls watch scrubs!
Hey Normies , careful on over 10 minutes of footage due to seeing the show off the glass in the background ! Not sure if that would count.
S4 > S3 overall, imo
Miami reactions ftw
Pop pop
Loved this reaction lol and did Pierce die ?
Ofcourse the guy that doesn't know anything that is happening and asks the dumbest questions in every reaction is the one that actually thought they made paintball cool again.
Love Miami
wtf is up w the awful muffled shouting in the background???? its srsly annoying
Aaaaaaaaand we're back!
Sorry, had to miss a few weeks but I already saw season 4 when it first came out and I couldn't justify wasting another minute of my life on it.
as of today. im in love with Rana....
I listen to the podcast but whoever posts them up does so a month late.
The last season of Scrubs was more of a spin off then another season.
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Oh that's why Annie was BLEEP cuz of forensic science, I get it nnow
Irony: the least funny person on this channel complaining about "forced comedy" 😉
Well their channel it's not a comedy show
I like you guys, but you were weirdly harder on this episode than any part of season 4, and I don't get it. Warts and all, this is still substantially better than 95% of season 4. It just had a difficult task in setting up a logical reason for people to stick around.
KINGDOM HEARTS BLANKET!!!
in stupid Miami and one of you still is wearing a blanket
I thought Rana was going to say "I apologize for 9/11" lol
I couldn't disagree with her more. In what world was any of these seasons "natural"? How is this forced? She clearly doesn't understand what sheet is trying to say. Just say you didn't like it. Don't try to sound smart when your not actually saying anything of substance. She's always been the least fun to watch because she never gets the more subtle humor, and she gets offended or mad at things for no reason.
Stfu incel
Like you that is getting offended and mad for no reason
It’s her opinion. Stop taking this show so seriously.
It's clear what she's saying. It was natural because they were going to school, to get a degree, and move on and do things in life.
The characters all moved on, Jeff and Pierce graduated, they're all living different lives, and them coming back to Greendale was forced because
there wasn't any real reason to.
That's her opinion.
Mine is different. I like the way they brought them back, the fact it was a bit contrived was funny.
Even Abed pointed out earlier, about Jeff returning as a teacher and it being a sitcom trope and how lame it was,
but as I said, I found that funny.
You don't have to attack somebody because their opinion is different.
Appreciate where they're coming from and that you both take away different things from the same material. That's what makes it great.
@@aznthy lol wow duck sauce just responding to every comment, constructive like this one, or not, with "incel". You really showing your idiocy on full blast
She has no idea what forced means. It's so cringy watching her try to act like she has any intelligent analysis of this shows writing.
Stfu incel
@@aznthy Why does that comment make this person an incel exactly?
@@aznthy Saying something negative about a woman doesn't make someone an incel.
Seems a bit drastic for what was just and opinion but ok
She actually does. The only problem is there is no other way to bring everyone back together to the same place without it being forced and the writers are not unaware of that. Maybe she was looking forward to seeing the aftermath of them living their lives and interacting with each other after graduation and that's why she doesn't know what to feel about it. There is no natural way to bring them back together, so forced is not inaccurate. I think she just missed that it was done purposefully or she was anticipating the show to go in a different direction instead of everyone conveniently needing to come back to school for whatever reason so she's iffy about it.
oh No Suraj is back, damn :(
This episode was so bad that I've stopped watching Community after it. Didn't even know that it had a season 6 (TIL).
The funnies are funnier in Season 5 sometimes, but the characters are Flanderized, dumbed down, and turned bad more in this season than in any other, unfortunately. That said, I enjoyed this opening episode.
This is an insane opinion.
This is really wrong.
I need examples, which characters specifically turned bad?
UGHHH just one more season till the best season in my opinion! #sixseasonsandamovie
Excuse me, nobody said bless you to Marketa lol
Edit: Not even two minutes in and already commenting again. Gorram I love the vacation Normies
Marketa, I also think it's forced.
Yay! Season Garbage is over! 😀
Season 4 was better than this season. This 1st ep was the worst ep 1 to me.
@@wisewillow7530 Season 4 is much worse than this season although S5 is definitely the 2nd worst season
Season 4 was imo probably the weakest season overall but it had some great episodes. I quite liked Intro to Felt Surrogacy, Basic Human Anatomy, Heroic Origins, and Advanced Introduction to Finality.
I agree with you Markeeta, S5 is the worst season by far..