Is the debate with Simon Hill still happening? I was looking forward to that. Seemed like it would have been a very interesting conversation to witness.
I’m good with consuming carbs, just gotta make sure they’re responsibly sourced. Love some glyphosate-free watermelon when it’s in season! Delicious stuff over the summer
Hey DrCarnivore, love the podcast with special guest! I believe Dr Ken Berry would be a great guest to have on the show! You guys share very similar ideas about health diet and lifestyle!
Great Interview! I believe that you are also getting your magnesium and other essential electrolytes from your constant contact with ocean water through your skin with your daily surfing activities. There is a great amount of research and evidence too about the great benefits of drinking ocean water daily for getting all the essential minerals and other very valuable nutrients living in ocean water. I do it myself, and now at higher ratios than normal, being able to consume it directly without getting the purging effects of it most of the times. I also measure the electrical conductivity in my urine daily, which is something also very important to know, because that is the function of electrolytes in our body, and the more water we drink without electrolytes the more we dilute and lower the electrical conductivity in our system which can cause a lot of harm to our health. Great human, Dr. Carey Reams that discover that while working with plants. And also, if you can, research the work that Rene Quinton left for humanity throughout his life about the consumption of ocean water for humans, and the lives he saved with that during WWII. Great stuff!
I really think they're over-emphasizing hemoglobin A1c. HbA1c is really just a proxy for insulin resistance. Someone can be completely insulin sensitive and have an A1c of 5.8%, or even 6.2%. Multiple papers have shown that mortality doesn't increase until A1c reaches 6.0, and even 6.4 in some papers. There are better measures of insulin resistance: fasting insulin, Kraft test, HOMA-IR, and LPIR score (which is by far the best measure). They completely neglected to talk about how resistance training, increased gluconeogenesis, adaptive glucose sparing, and increased RBC lifespan can all raise HbA1c. The best use of A1c is for clinicians to measure how well a patient's diabetes is responding to treatment. Beyond that, maybe as a marker for early insulin resistance of a sedentary/obese person. But for low-carbers or highly active people, it completely loses its utility.
I started eating fewer carbs and my A1C went from 5.1 to 4.9. I think that's the danger of recommending a diet for everyone. Clearly humans aren't clones. That's why it's important to test. I seem to have a different threshold for a lot of things. My SHBG is in the high range (total test 875), which is common with low carb, so I asked my doctor should I have symptoms? And he said, yeah, low sex drive, difficulty retaining muscle mass, joint pain, brain fog, etc, etc. I feel the exact opposite of all of those things. Seems that population level ranges aren't always the best metric.
@@lilkira5579 yeah, it was more to illustrate Paul's point about someone eating just steak and butter having a higher A1c than his, when he eats a lot of carbs.
@@JasonFuhrman yeah I wouldn't advise eating lots of carbs, while eating steak and butter, it's a direct way to insulin resistance, and Paul is either a genetic outlier or exercising it out. I honestly don't think that carbs are bad, but in combination with saturated fat they become quite not beneficial.
@@lilkira5579 Yeah, but is eating lots of carbs, while eating steak and butter really causing insulin resistance???? That's the whole discussion... what really causes insulin resistance?!?!?!?! Is it seed oils, processed sugars, mineral deficiencies, etc... Thing is, we don't really know.
@@allenbrost9564 neither. It's the overall calorie overconsumption, lack of physical activity, some other underlying disease. If you think about it, Ice Cream, Donuts, Pizza, Chips are not high in carb, they have a quite high percentage of fat calories, so it's the combination of two macronutrients that causes calorie overconsumption. Neither seed oils or sugar cause insulin resistance, if the overall calorie consumption is low. The combination of steak and sugar makes it harder for the pancreas to produce insulin, because the fat intake in steak messes up carb burning, meaning our body is designed to handle one source of energy, not two, so combination of fats+carbs is not ideal for diabetics, but in isolation is better.
You can have BPH with normal PSA. I’m 70 and get up 1-2 times a night. PSA 3-4. Prostate 2-3x enlarged. Been that way for yrs. Had a TURP 10 yrs ago. You get up at night due to enlarged Prostate.
Matt Blackburn also has said that he was getting fat eating that way even though he was very active and that he was constantly having to eat all the time.
That guy is a complete idiot who jumps on every new trend each week, shilling products based on them, and bullies and insults anyone who calls him out about it
Dr Nic said that active people need to consume carbs otherwise they will have negative health consequences, Paul seemed to agree, but they didn't say why? what about the many athletes performing on carnivore?
I was a kid raw milk with honey mmmmmm that was very good, now i make often low carb, but i think in the future, this is very good idea after tour in mountains :D sometimes i ate dark chocolate with a little bit honey. Very good.
Two points left me very puzzled and unimpressed. 1) Why is James still at 14% body fat? Considering he calculates everything… 2) Why does he think it’s normal to wake up 2-3x per night to go pee? Science is interesting. But science is a process. Certainly not optimal in his case. Anyway thanks to both for experimenting and sharing the lessons about their process.
27:25 how can refined carbs cause insulin resistance? Doesn't make any sense.. If we have plenty of micronutrients that are needed for sugar metabolism like B1, potassium etc.. why would some extra sugar cause insulin resistance?? Google Kempner and rice diet. Obese people with diabetes were in calorie restriction eating nothing but white sugar, white rice, fruit juice and they drop to healthy body weight and had no diabetes. If refined carbs cause diabetes than basically all athletes like cyclists should have diabetes, becaues they consume up to 150g of refined sugars per hour during training/race. They consume basically daily like 300-800g of refined carbs from things like maltodextrin/fructose powder mixes etc...
@peter kerns yep, and for the past few years the longest lived population has been in Hong Kong. They eat rice at every meal, along with loads of vegetables and meat. Carbs, veg and meat are all beneficial.
Please don't eat carbs if you suffer from Candida. At least not until you heal and restore some balance. Fruit and honey wrecked me and made my Candida now almost impossible to get rid off. Stay strict for a while and then start introducing stuff like avocado, cucumbers.. But that's only when you heal and get past those cravings. Try not to introduce foods by following cravings. It never ends up good.
Yes. I say that as someone who had that issue and used to teach candida nutritional recovery. Don't listen to the fad anti carb candida approach. It's wrong. It's always temporary. Candida will come under control naturally when you're healthy, like parasites. Focus on overall health, not one messenger. I share this from bitter experience. Carbs are not the enemy, nor the cause of candidiasis.
You don't really need to drink a lot of water. Your body creates water as a byproduct of metabolism. It just looks like we need a lot because seed oils make your cells dehydrate and create thirst. The liquid that you get should be in the form that your body wants (magnesium, potassium, sodium rich). Water is more of a fallback.
I've eaten eggs all my life, now it makes my rosacea flair up after a few days of eating boiled eggs which sucks cuz it's a great thing to prep to take to work
Have you tried eggs raw? I always have found boiled eggs to be odd or unnatural, unable to eat more than 4. It also makes me thirsty. Raw yolk? I can eat unlimited amounts.
I have a rash under my eye on only the right side of my face that looks like rosacea. Sometimes it’s worse. Idk what’s causing it but I eat eggs everyday. Does yours go away when you stop eggs? And is it only boiled eggs? What about scrambled
Wouldn't it be better to say that fasting has no benefit for body composition for individuals below 14 percent body fat. There is still a benefit for autophagy for healing and overall best health.
After a kill in a traditional sense you would be depleted in liver glycogen which is then replenished without the physiological impact of raising you blood glucose for hrs.
Listening to the podcast of this right now. I have to take issue with your comments about having to have an a1c to diagnose pre or even T2! This, to me, is outdated! You get better info from a continuous glucose monitor than any a1c! A person who odd already experiencing blood sugar issues is going to appear totally normal with most fasting blood sugars and a1c’s for a long time, years or decades in some cases, simply because they are not T1. Their bodies can pull them into range for fasting because of time spent fasting. And a1c’s can appear normal because they still spend most of the time in a non diabetic numbers. Even T1 doctors are focusing more on this data from cgm and looking at time in range verses a1c. Besides the fact that many factors can affect an a1c. Looking at the data from a cgm can show in real time time struggle a persons body is having with their blood sugar!!! I’m T1, and although very different from pre or T2, and very low carb, and this is the first time in my life I’ve felt healthy! A1c from 5.0 to 5.5 now for 4 plus years. 😊
Have to also add that the years spent not knowing blood sugars are fluctuating. It even knowing that some fasting numbers were a little higher and being told by their doctors to just watch it for now is the reason that many T2’s experience complications so quickly. It’s decades of unknown bg disregulation doing damage before they are finally “diagnosed” and do something about it.
Our ancestors got salt from multiple sources such as salt licks, interstitial fluid and blood from fresh animal kills, aquatic animal consumption, etc.
with a1c, lower is not necessarily better. research shows there is a bell curve with a1c and optimal health outcomes. 5.1 to 5.3 is optimal. if mine was the same as either of these guys, i would think i had room for improvement, granted i am a perfectionist and granted, a1c can be misleading in some cases, also. i love these podcasts:)
I have found supplementing with magnesium citrate and glycinate leads to loose stools, yet is needed according to Sally for oxalate clearing. We have hard water as we have underground water sitting on top of limestone. Any advice? I am carnivore.
The carnivore diet (eating red meat/beef) has caused my husband a huge eczema flare-up out of nowhere. He has not had eczema in his life prior to starting with regular beef intake. After ruling out every other food for months now, red meat (ours is quality grass fed hormone-free too) was the culprit. Internet searches reveal that red meat is a common cause of eczema and flare-ups. I have not heard you discuss this nor would either of us have suspected such a side-effect. This has been a very painful process physically, only to find out that beef is hurting his health. Can you please advise people about this? I say it because the "carnivore diet" is catching on bigly and we love your content, but for some its literally causing painful burning eczema out of nowhere. We are very sorry indeed to have gone 100% beef (as our meat) in our diet. Hope you address this. Thank you for your content.
I find fasting or just meat can make symptoms worse temporarily worse because your body is realising toxins etc in your body and eating just meat is pure and clean! Don't give up!
@s E yeah I've heard this as well, even people who go on a fruit diet experience detox symptoms. If you read the book "Why we get sick' by Dr Ben bikman PhD who is a cell biologist, he says protein from good meat is the best thing for us the next best thing is fat. So my guess would be it's just the body detoxing and everyone does that differently and that's why everyone has different health conditions.
@@jberts3141 Yeah, that's why I asked about his prior diet. If there was a lot of vegetables and nuts in there it's probably oxalate dumping. Adding a bit of oxalate rich food back into the diet and slowly wean them off can help.
A1C is an average Paul and we all know you are very physical which reduces the average despite those massive glucose spikes and subsequent cellular damage.
Forgot to add, after that 100 blood sugar spike from OJ juice, it will come down within 1-2 hours but the whole orange itself may spike only 30 points. A1c currently at 5.2 & Fasting Insulin of 3.0. Has taken a low sugar, low carb diet to get it there & stay there only with the help of a CGM (Game Changer for me!)
Ever since James emphasized the importance of wearing masks in his Mikhaila Peterson interview, I can't take him seriously. He has no problems making sh*t up.
I run 2-3 miles a day and strength train every day sometimes twice a day along with running on those days to and i work a full time job usually 48 hours a week very active job all on carnivore ive experimented with your diet before and my crp went up to 6.6 it destroyed me my mood issues came back to severe depression zapped my energy horrible sleep nothing changed besides the inclusion of fruit ill never understand why you dont belive carnivore can be optimal for at least some people
@Joseph B. the carb addiction has quite litteraly tainted his mind he'll go to hell and back to convince people they need to scarf down 2-3 pounds of fruit a day hes even tried saying if you have diabetes consume honey hes a fucking doctor and knows thats dangerous and he tries telling people he had electrolyte issues after years of saying carnivore is optimal he just got a lick of carbs and went completely off the rails with it hell have you seen his traveling videos he can't even fast cause he can't go just a little bit without carbs hes also aged ten years in just over a year he also seems way less articulate compared to when he was carnivore you just wait he'll either come back to carnivore or go fruit based with minimal amounts of meat hes already fruit based but he'll become more extreme
@@Pepi86753 where was this angry paul? i didn't see that. you want to see an hypercortisolemia (very angry) look no further than mr. cortisol himself bart kay
@@joerandom157 @joe random Plenty of examples of angry Paul. Check out his recent video on breakfast food. He’s seething with anger or maybe roid rage. I even agree with his point but dude needs to calm down. Fight or flight isn’t good for you.
@@Pepi86753 strange shot at the guy. I watched the whole thing, and he didn't seem very angry to me. He speaks passionately, and is constantly disappointed in the US medical/healthcare system as well as FDA guidelines and stuff, I'll give ya that.
Were you keto at the time when you tested this? This makes a huge difference. Ketosis makes you temporarily glucose intolerant (because of high cortisol). Slowly titrate up the carbs to get out of ketosis then have the orange juice. you'll have a MUCH different response.
Started with glucose monitoring 14 months ago. First eliminated sugars, helped alot. Then started cutting out carbs which to be honest had no idea what carbs were at the time. Also high stress, anxiety, & a Babesia infection finally sent my health crashing. Was always on thinner side & very active but ate a highly processed sugary diet. Now age 61 & almost down to my high school weight. Still dealing with lightheadedness, brain inflammation, heart palpitations, & anxiety. Am pleased with my progress but have never been able to measure ketones on a urine strip yet. Past 60 days leaning towards a more meat heavy diet, also eliminating high oxolate foods like almonds & my 85% dark chocolate which I thought was suppose to be good for me. Have had health issues over the last 7 years that no specialist or Doc out there could put their finger on so I have had to become my own doc & have spent over $60,000 of my own borrowed money above Insurance trying to get to the bottom of this. Podcasts like this have helped more than anything. Even my family doc has become interested again in my progress since taking matters into my own hands. (He wasn't concerned when my A1c was at 6.3 but I told him I was). Last time I saw him, he even called in a student doc to have me explain my results with the CGM. (So he must be thinking) Met with my Cardiologist 3 days ago. Everything checks out good but he had no idea what Oxolates were, never heard of a fasting insulin test, & "ASKED" me how to test for it. At least he was interested. Like Dr Ken Berry says, we might need to gently Re-Educate our Doctors. All I know is for me juices, 4 green grapes, a banana, bread & processed grains of most any kind almost guaranteed that blood sugar spike. It does come down quicker now than when I first started without crashing as low as 38 that I had measured. It only took me 4 months with the cgm to go from 6.3 to 5.6 & now 14 months later at 5.2 but....hard to keep it there. Be patient w me. I am still learning.
But you were long time carnivore? ?? Your book tell us something else... when I would eat 300 carbs pro day, sorry, i will sick. Orange juice? We will see your experiment in the future, you have told people something else in the past... orange ok but not juice... perhaps when you are healthy you can drink, but it is not beneficial, sorry.....
Just a little annoyed by your current attitude towards carnivore when it was you that convinced me that it was the path to a low A1C and next to freakin holy awesome for curing yourself of all kinds of things. That was July 12 2019. I ended up being carnivore longer than you were apparently. Now as a 76 year old woman I do still listen to your videos sometimes but feel your credibility has lowered now that you are "experimenting" with non-carnivore eating and seem to keep changing what you are saying about optimal eating. I cannot afford all the fancy testing that you guys do so I am left with guessing how different foods/activities are affecting my health and doing the best I can. Just wish you were not so condescending towards the people who chose to follow your advice on the carnivore diet and ended up less than healthy just as you did. It seems Dr Mercola was correct in 2019 when he told you it was unwise to do it 24/7. But I listened to you and not him.
Trust your body, it will let you know if something is off. Consider changing guru's instead of changing up your diet if it's working for you like it is for most of us.
@@katashley1031 But he ignores all the horrible reactions people experience when eating his fruit advice. I have never ever seen him address that and i have seen dozens and dozens of people with horrific relapse stories (mental illness, autoimmunity) when they tried to add fruit back in.
@@bianco215 That's because everyone has different needs, lol. That's not news and it's also not his responsibility to parse our a diet for everyone. He and everybothet cult diet guru share what works for them. That's it. Nothing more to it.
@@katashley1031 Uhh, he explicitly says that ketosis is dangerous and unhealthy for all people. That's the opposite of acknowledging individual needs. So no, not that simple and not okay.
Magnesium and b vitamin requirements go way up with carb consumption and I'd venture that antioxidant requirements too, fat is a much cleaner fuel. Also 100g of salmon has 0.9g of creatine and other fish are similar, eating 500g of salmon a day is pretty easy. Eggs keep you full from choline ( just like brain ) and not from protein, go eat some chicken breast and tell me how full you gonna feel. Fresh healthy water has sodium in it, not the shit that is bottled, but even then you should drink based on how your body feel not a "recommended amount" suggested by idiots. Also talking abous insulin resistance without mentioning toxins ( bpa glyphostae etc ) or the effect of food on the microbiome is just stupid. No wonder people are not listening to both of you anymore.
@@IWorfare A lot of things are complicated, that's no excuse not to find the truth and my statements hold true. But there's plenty of incentive to "discover" new and new stuff, both of them profit hugely from the confusion. Most problems in todays age come from toxins, we have plenty of evidence for that, it's not the sugar or the potatoes or the rice or broccoli or meat. As humans we are highly adaptable, as you can see in the different tribes that eat whatever they can get. Toxins disturb your microbiome so then you can't digest/absorb stuff properly and your lining gets destroyed. That's why some people thrive on carnivore because they had the microbiome for that and they felt good, and some people thrive on vegan because they can't tolerate meat and some people thrive on anything and some on nothing. And you get dumbasses like Mickaila peterson that eats nothing but steak her entire life, instead of treating her root cause, a bad microbiome ( just like her dad ) she just "fixes" it by never having anything else. If you have a broken leg, don't fix your leg, just never walk again and you'll be fine. But hey, these guys will sell you 10 more books in the next 5 years and 100 supplements.
Most likely, the reason why carnivores A1C goes up is because their RBC's live longer than the average person. If you are not eating sugar, you are not creating inflammation so your blodd cells live longer
@@allenbrost9564 no, obviously not. Paul Mason talked about it a lot. It is a known phenomenon. Your rbc's get destroyed by sugar glycating them. Fructose causes 7x the damage in terms of glycation compared to glucose. Also fructose glycation DOES NOT show up on a A1C test. Thats specific to glucose. Think about it: A1C measures glucose stuck to a hemoglobin molecule. If you are not eating sugar you cannot have elevated A1C UNLESS your rbc's live longer so that the small, small amount of glycation they do get "builds up" overtime. Also, in pregnant women, rbc's have a SHORTER lifespan because the turnover is faster, cuz they have a growing human inside them. Im not making anything up 😊
They aren't thriving. I watch the show. They survive because fish are usually easy catches because they're dumb. But they are mostly getting by dry fasting (inadvertently keeping electrolytes in check). They survive, yes. Thrive? Not a chance.
This might be the best supplementation and nutrition video I’ve ever listened to . Thank you James and Paul.
Fantastic Interview! Thank you so much for having James on and I just ordered his new book too.
Paul, this was an amazing podcast. Thank you for sharing cutting edge science with us!
Excellent interview! Glad to hear you'll be interviewing Sally K. Norton next week... I'm really looking forward to hearing that.
I love both of these guys. They provide great information.
More meal prep ideas!!! Enjoyed this
excellent video, I can for sure tell when my sodium and electrolyte levels are low.
Good conversation.❤
Thank you for this great interview!
Love James. Read all of his books. Thanks for this!
My two favs!!!! So excited for this
Why does saladino give me such happy chill vibes lol.
Awesome podcast guys I learned a ton
Is the debate with Simon Hill still happening? I was looking forward to that. Seemed like it would have been a very interesting conversation to witness.
I’m good with consuming carbs, just gotta make sure they’re responsibly sourced. Love some glyphosate-free watermelon when it’s in season! Delicious stuff over the summer
Hey DrCarnivore, love the podcast with special guest! I believe Dr Ken Berry would be a great guest to have on the show! You guys share very similar ideas about health diet and lifestyle!
He had Ken Berry on the show recently
@@PieInTheSky9 oh wow I just found it! Thanks
Great Interview! I believe that you are also getting your magnesium and other essential electrolytes from your constant contact with ocean water through your skin with your daily surfing activities. There is a great amount of research and evidence too about the great benefits of drinking ocean water daily for getting all the essential minerals and other very valuable nutrients living in ocean water. I do it myself, and now at higher ratios than normal, being able to consume it directly without getting the purging effects of it most of the times. I also measure the electrical conductivity in my urine daily, which is something also very important to know, because that is the function of electrolytes in our body, and the more water we drink without electrolytes the more we dilute and lower the electrical conductivity in our system which can cause a lot of harm to our health. Great human, Dr. Carey Reams that discover that while working with plants. And also, if you can, research the work that Rene Quinton left for humanity throughout his life about the consumption of ocean water for humans, and the lives he saved with that during WWII. Great stuff!
Love dr nic
I follow him on IG! Great interview🎉
I take my creatine and electrolytes, mixed in water, throughout my workout as opposed to pre or post - is this a major issue?
I really think they're over-emphasizing hemoglobin A1c. HbA1c is really just a proxy for insulin resistance. Someone can be completely insulin sensitive and have an A1c of 5.8%, or even 6.2%. Multiple papers have shown that mortality doesn't increase until A1c reaches 6.0, and even 6.4 in some papers. There are better measures of insulin resistance: fasting insulin, Kraft test, HOMA-IR, and LPIR score (which is by far the best measure). They completely neglected to talk about how resistance training, increased gluconeogenesis, adaptive glucose sparing, and increased RBC lifespan can all raise HbA1c. The best use of A1c is for clinicians to measure how well a patient's diabetes is responding to treatment. Beyond that, maybe as a marker for early insulin resistance of a sedentary/obese person. But for low-carbers or highly active people, it completely loses its utility.
very informative comment!
Is taking creatine during non exercise days with a noon fast breaking meal an acceptable method? (A meal with enough protein and carbs of course.)
I started eating fewer carbs and my A1C went from 5.1 to 4.9. I think that's the danger of recommending a diet for everyone. Clearly humans aren't clones. That's why it's important to test. I seem to have a different threshold for a lot of things. My SHBG is in the high range (total test 875), which is common with low carb, so I asked my doctor should I have symptoms? And he said, yeah, low sex drive, difficulty retaining muscle mass, joint pain, brain fog, etc, etc. I feel the exact opposite of all of those things. Seems that population level ranges aren't always the best metric.
I mean 5.1 is still a good a1c.
@@lilkira5579 yeah, it was more to illustrate Paul's point about someone eating just steak and butter having a higher A1c than his, when he eats a lot of carbs.
@@JasonFuhrman yeah I wouldn't advise eating lots of carbs, while eating steak and butter, it's a direct way to insulin resistance, and Paul is either a genetic outlier or exercising it out. I honestly don't think that carbs are bad, but in combination with saturated fat they become quite not beneficial.
@@lilkira5579 Yeah, but is eating lots of carbs, while eating steak and butter really causing insulin resistance???? That's the whole discussion... what really causes insulin resistance?!?!?!?! Is it seed oils, processed sugars, mineral deficiencies, etc... Thing is, we don't really know.
@@allenbrost9564 neither. It's the overall calorie overconsumption, lack of physical activity, some other underlying disease. If you think about it, Ice Cream, Donuts, Pizza, Chips are not high in carb, they have a quite high percentage of fat calories, so it's the combination of two macronutrients that causes calorie overconsumption. Neither seed oils or sugar cause insulin resistance, if the overall calorie consumption is low. The combination of steak and sugar makes it harder for the pancreas to produce insulin, because the fat intake in steak messes up carb burning, meaning our body is designed to handle one source of energy, not two, so combination of fats+carbs is not ideal for diabetics, but in isolation is better.
Advice for pregnant women on carnivore diet.. ? Do you have any advice who feel depleted? Thank you
You can have BPH with normal PSA. I’m 70 and get up 1-2 times a night. PSA 3-4. Prostate 2-3x enlarged. Been that way for yrs. Had a TURP 10 yrs ago. You get up at night due to enlarged Prostate.
Matt Blackburn also has said that he was getting fat eating that way even though he was very active and that he was constantly having to eat all the time.
That guy is a complete idiot who jumps on every new trend each week, shilling products based on them, and bullies and insults anyone who calls him out about it
Dr Nic said that active people need to consume carbs otherwise they will have negative health consequences, Paul seemed to agree, but they didn't say why? what about the many athletes performing on carnivore?
I was a kid raw milk with honey mmmmmm that was very good, now i make often low carb, but i think in the future, this is very good idea after tour in mountains :D sometimes i ate dark chocolate with a little bit honey. Very good.
Two points left me very puzzled and unimpressed.
1) Why is James still at 14% body fat? Considering he calculates everything…
2) Why does he think it’s normal to wake up 2-3x per night to go pee?
Science is interesting.
But science is a process.
Certainly not optimal in his case.
Anyway thanks to both for experimenting and sharing the lessons about their process.
25:29 same. Fruits have been a life saver.
27:25 how can refined carbs cause insulin resistance? Doesn't make any sense.. If we have plenty of micronutrients that are needed for sugar metabolism like B1, potassium etc.. why would some extra sugar cause insulin resistance?? Google Kempner and rice diet. Obese people with diabetes were in calorie restriction eating nothing but white sugar, white rice, fruit juice and they drop to healthy body weight and had no diabetes. If refined carbs cause diabetes than basically all athletes like cyclists should have diabetes, becaues they consume up to 150g of refined sugars per hour during training/race. They consume basically daily like 300-800g of refined carbs from things like maltodextrin/fructose powder mixes etc...
@peter kerns yep, and for the past few years the longest lived population has been in Hong Kong. They eat rice at every meal, along with loads of vegetables and meat. Carbs, veg and meat are all beneficial.
@peter kerns yes and no.
I eat zero carb and had an a1c of 4.0 in February. 5.4 is high.
Are carbs/fruit still recommended for people who have candida or other fungal issues?
Please don't eat carbs if you suffer from Candida. At least not until you heal and restore some balance. Fruit and honey wrecked me and made my Candida now almost impossible to get rid off. Stay strict for a while and then start introducing stuff like avocado, cucumbers.. But that's only when you heal and get past those cravings. Try not to introduce foods by following cravings. It never ends up good.
Yes. I say that as someone who had that issue and used to teach candida nutritional recovery. Don't listen to the fad anti carb candida approach. It's wrong. It's always temporary. Candida will come under control naturally when you're healthy, like parasites. Focus on overall health, not one messenger. I share this from bitter experience. Carbs are not the enemy, nor the cause of candidiasis.
Please post the study on GC mass spectrometry and elevated calorie count
You don't really need to drink a lot of water. Your body creates water as a byproduct of metabolism. It just looks like we need a lot because seed oils make your cells dehydrate and create thirst. The liquid that you get should be in the form that your body wants (magnesium, potassium, sodium rich). Water is more of a fallback.
Dr Batmanghelidj would have begged to differ. Chronic dehydration is pretty common.
Is this real
I've eaten eggs all my life, now it makes my rosacea flair up after a few days of eating boiled eggs which sucks cuz it's a great thing to prep to take to work
Have you tried eggs raw? I always have found boiled eggs to be odd or unnatural, unable to eat more than 4. It also makes me thirsty. Raw yolk? I can eat unlimited amounts.
I have a rash under my eye on only the right side of my face that looks like rosacea. Sometimes it’s worse. Idk what’s causing it but I eat eggs everyday. Does yours go away when you stop eggs? And is it only boiled eggs? What about scrambled
Eggs are the single most common allergen that presents in blood panels for food allergies.
try to eat only yolk and see what happens. Eat liquid after 3 min boiled.
Raw egg yolks
Hows the ferritin going ?
What is endotoxin? What causes it?
Think theyre toxins created by some bacteria in our gut? Not a little sure
As I also listen to his podcasts, I just don't believe Matt Blackburn would ever go keto or carni...
"My body just craves orange juice", "It just makes me feel good"! Salt Tweaker 2023
Wouldn't it be better to say that fasting has no benefit for body composition for individuals below 14 percent body fat. There is still a benefit for autophagy for healing and overall best health.
After a kill in a traditional sense you would be depleted in liver glycogen which is then replenished without the physiological impact of raising you blood glucose for hrs.
Damn so I've been eating 2 pounds of meat and creatine supps 👀. I think im good 🤣
Listening to the podcast of this right now. I have to take issue with your comments about having to have an a1c to diagnose pre or even T2! This, to me, is outdated! You get better info from a continuous glucose monitor than any a1c! A person who odd already experiencing blood sugar issues is going to appear totally normal with most fasting blood sugars and a1c’s for a long time, years or decades in some cases, simply because they are not T1. Their bodies can pull them into range for fasting because of time spent fasting. And a1c’s can appear normal because they still spend most of the time in a non diabetic numbers. Even T1 doctors are focusing more on this data from cgm and looking at time in range verses a1c. Besides the fact that many factors can affect an a1c. Looking at the data from a cgm can show in real time time struggle a persons body is having with their blood sugar!!! I’m T1, and although very different from pre or T2, and very low carb, and this is the first time in my life I’ve felt healthy! A1c from 5.0 to 5.5 now for 4 plus years. 😊
Have to also add that the years spent not knowing blood sugars are fluctuating. It even knowing that some fasting numbers were a little higher and being told by their doctors to just watch it for now is the reason that many T2’s experience complications so quickly. It’s decades of unknown bg disregulation doing damage before they are finally “diagnosed” and do something about it.
There is a reason there are values that are diagnostic and they shouldn’t be ignored.
Fulvic humic acid?????? It is repairing my gut microbiome like nothing else
is RBC magnesium useless?
6:26 I would love that you to talk about the elephant in the room
You had self prescribed 'electrolyte derangements' and wouldn't cycle out of ketosis which is recommended.
Did our Ancestors have salt shakers?
Our ancestors got salt from multiple sources such as salt licks, interstitial fluid and blood from fresh animal kills, aquatic animal consumption, etc.
with a1c, lower is not necessarily better. research shows there is a bell curve with a1c and optimal health outcomes. 5.1 to 5.3 is optimal. if mine was the same as either of these guys, i would think i had room for improvement, granted i am a perfectionist and granted, a1c can be misleading in some cases, also. i love these podcasts:)
I have found supplementing with magnesium citrate and glycinate leads to loose stools, yet is needed according to Sally for oxalate clearing. We have hard water as we have underground water sitting on top of limestone. Any advice? I am carnivore.
The carnivore diet (eating red meat/beef) has caused my husband a huge eczema flare-up out of nowhere. He has not had eczema in his life prior to starting with regular beef intake. After ruling out every other food for months now, red meat (ours is quality grass fed hormone-free too) was the culprit. Internet searches reveal that red meat is a common cause of eczema and flare-ups. I have not heard you discuss this nor would either of us have suspected such a side-effect. This has been a very painful process physically, only to find out that beef is hurting his health. Can you please advise people about this? I say it because the "carnivore diet" is catching on bigly and we love your content, but for some its literally causing painful burning eczema out of nowhere. We are very sorry indeed to have gone 100% beef (as our meat) in our diet. Hope you address this. Thank you for your content.
Paul saladino used to have eczema or skin conditions I believe that he said was cleared up from the carnivore diet or animal based
I find fasting or just meat can make symptoms worse temporarily worse because your body is realising toxins etc in your body and eating just meat is pure and clean! Don't give up!
What was your husband's diet like prior to going carnivore?
@s E yeah I've heard this as well, even people who go on a fruit diet experience detox symptoms.
If you read the book "Why we get sick' by Dr Ben bikman PhD who is a cell biologist, he says protein from good meat is the best thing for us the next best thing is fat.
So my guess would be it's just the body detoxing and everyone does that differently and that's why everyone has different health conditions.
@@jberts3141 Yeah, that's why I asked about his prior diet. If there was a lot of vegetables and nuts in there it's probably oxalate dumping. Adding a bit of oxalate rich food back into the diet and slowly wean them off can help.
So juicing an orange with your hand changes the sugar content??!
A1C is an average Paul and we all know you are very physical which reduces the average despite those massive glucose spikes and subsequent cellular damage.
Forgot to add, after that 100 blood sugar spike from OJ juice, it will come down within 1-2 hours but the whole orange itself may spike only 30 points. A1c currently at 5.2 & Fasting Insulin of 3.0. Has taken a low sugar, low carb diet to get it there & stay there only with the help of a CGM (Game Changer for me!)
bro really making it sound like his glycogen stores are depleted after running one mile 😭😭
Ikr😂 What a clown. Never heard of gluconeogenesis
Common Paul W
at this point, i dont know what food is right and wrong. im just going to go back to eating pizza and soda and chips.
Dr Paul, have you herd of molasses? Need to try it.
Yes, one step closer to table sugar. Approaching that standard american diet if it isn't already
Epic
Awkward when Paul essentially asks James to show his abs😂😂😂but then he doesn’t 🤣🤣🤣
Holy hell. I am in the top 1 percent...lol. I have visible abs.
😍🙌🏽🙌🏽
Ever since James emphasized the importance of wearing masks in his Mikhaila Peterson interview, I can't take him seriously. He has no problems making sh*t up.
Lol he did not?
@@perijon00 Yep, he did. Out of nowhere as well. Very odd, to say the least.
Literally no one cares
Omg thanks for this comment I will not be watching now , wow 🙄😷🤡
Yes, spitting unproven facts like they are realistic facts are harmful.
I run 2-3 miles a day and strength train every day sometimes twice a day along with running on those days to and i work a full time job usually 48 hours a week very active job all on carnivore ive experimented with your diet before and my crp went up to 6.6 it destroyed me my mood issues came back to severe depression zapped my energy horrible sleep nothing changed besides the inclusion of fruit ill never understand why you dont belive carnivore can be optimal for at least some people
i agree with you. its annoying
@Joseph B. the carb addiction has quite litteraly tainted his mind he'll go to hell and back to convince people they need to scarf down 2-3 pounds of fruit a day hes even tried saying if you have diabetes consume honey hes a fucking doctor and knows thats dangerous and he tries telling people he had electrolyte issues after years of saying carnivore is optimal he just got a lick of carbs and went completely off the rails with it hell have you seen his traveling videos he can't even fast cause he can't go just a little bit without carbs hes also aged ten years in just over a year he also seems way less articulate compared to when he was carnivore you just wait he'll either come back to carnivore or go fruit based with minimal amounts of meat hes already fruit based but he'll become more extreme
Paul, please show us your recent glucose tolerance test with congruent insulin over 5hrs with no exercise prior or during. I'll wait....... crickets.
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Which carnivore influencers have a1c of 6.2?
How about for girls? What body fat percentage are we talking?😜
Sudden death yup! Gee what was different? 😂
Wtf? I've never had to wake up and pee in the middle of the night.
I'm wondering why you live in Costa Rica?....
Why wouldn't he? Cheaper, good weather, good surfing. Quite a few of my colleagues did the same thing.
TMAO....🧐
Shirtless Paul to angry Paul. Nice transition, bro
Lol Wut
@@UberHummus he often seems worked up and angry at certain foods. I get that he’s roided up and single but jeesh he’s funny.
@@Pepi86753 where was this angry paul? i didn't see that. you want to see an hypercortisolemia (very angry) look no further than mr. cortisol himself bart kay
@@joerandom157 @joe random Plenty of examples of angry Paul. Check out his recent video on breakfast food. He’s seething with anger or maybe roid rage. I even agree with his point but dude needs to calm down. Fight or flight isn’t good for you.
@@Pepi86753 strange shot at the guy. I watched the whole thing, and he didn't seem very angry to me. He speaks passionately, and is constantly disappointed in the US medical/healthcare system as well as FDA guidelines and stuff, I'll give ya that.
The hydration stuff sounds like bs. Just listen to your body
Eat the orange, not the juice! 10 oz of liquid OJ will send my blood sugar up 100 points.
If you listened, the conversation was to NOT focus on the spikes, but area under the curve, A1c and fasting insulin.
Were you keto at the time when you tested this? This makes a huge difference. Ketosis makes you temporarily glucose intolerant (because of high cortisol). Slowly titrate up the carbs to get out of ketosis then have the orange juice. you'll have a MUCH different response.
@@joerandom157 Have you ever studied the Randle Cycle? Sounds like you haven't.
Started with glucose monitoring 14 months ago. First eliminated sugars, helped alot. Then started cutting out carbs which to be honest had no idea what carbs were at the time. Also high stress, anxiety, & a Babesia infection finally sent my health crashing. Was always on thinner side & very active but ate a highly processed sugary diet. Now age 61 & almost down to my high school weight. Still dealing with lightheadedness, brain inflammation, heart palpitations, & anxiety.
Am pleased with my progress but have never been able to measure ketones on a urine strip yet. Past 60 days leaning towards a more meat heavy diet, also eliminating high oxolate foods like almonds & my 85% dark chocolate which I thought was suppose to be good for me.
Have had health issues over the last 7 years that no specialist or Doc out there could put their finger on so I have had to become my own doc & have spent over $60,000 of my own borrowed money above Insurance trying to get to the bottom of this. Podcasts like this have helped more than anything. Even my family doc has become interested again in my progress since taking matters into my own hands. (He wasn't concerned when my A1c was at 6.3 but I told him I was). Last time I saw him, he even called in a student doc to have me explain my results with the CGM. (So he must be thinking)
Met with my Cardiologist 3 days ago. Everything checks out good but he had no idea what Oxolates were, never heard of a fasting insulin test, & "ASKED" me how to test for it. At least he was interested. Like Dr Ken Berry says, we might need to gently Re-Educate our Doctors.
All I know is for me juices, 4 green grapes, a banana, bread & processed grains of most any kind almost guaranteed that blood sugar spike. It does come down quicker now than when I first started without crashing as low as 38 that I had measured.
It only took me 4 months with the cgm to go from 6.3 to 5.6 & now 14 months later at 5.2 but....hard to keep it there. Be patient w me. I am still learning.
Doesn’t do it to me
But you were long time carnivore? ?? Your book tell us something else... when I would eat 300 carbs pro day, sorry, i will sick. Orange juice? We will see your experiment in the future, you have told people something else in the past... orange ok but not juice... perhaps when you are healthy you can drink, but it is not beneficial, sorry.....
Just a little annoyed by your current attitude towards carnivore when it was you that convinced me that it was the path to a low A1C and next to freakin holy awesome for curing yourself of all kinds of things. That was July 12 2019. I ended up being carnivore longer than you were apparently. Now as a 76 year old woman I do still listen to your videos sometimes but feel your credibility has lowered now that you are "experimenting" with non-carnivore eating and seem to keep changing what you are saying about optimal eating. I cannot afford all the fancy testing that you guys do so I am left with guessing how different foods/activities are affecting my health and doing the best I can. Just wish you were not so condescending towards the people who chose to follow your advice on the carnivore diet and ended up less than healthy just as you did. It seems Dr Mercola was correct in 2019 when he told you it was unwise to do it 24/7. But I listened to you and not him.
It's called learning and evolving. It's literally how science works.
Trust your body, it will let you know if something is off. Consider changing guru's instead of changing up your diet if it's working for you like it is for most of us.
@@katashley1031 But he ignores all the horrible reactions people experience when eating his fruit advice. I have never ever seen him address that and i have seen dozens and dozens of people with horrific relapse stories (mental illness, autoimmunity) when they tried to add fruit back in.
@@bianco215 That's because everyone has different needs, lol. That's not news and it's also not his responsibility to parse our a diet for everyone. He and everybothet cult diet guru share what works for them. That's it. Nothing more to it.
@@katashley1031 Uhh, he explicitly says that ketosis is dangerous and unhealthy for all people. That's the opposite of acknowledging individual needs. So no, not that simple and not okay.
The only benefit of carbs is their taste.
Incorrect.
Magnesium and b vitamin requirements go way up with carb consumption and I'd venture that antioxidant requirements too, fat is a much cleaner fuel.
Also 100g of salmon has 0.9g of creatine and other fish are similar, eating 500g of salmon a day is pretty easy.
Eggs keep you full from choline ( just like brain ) and not from protein, go eat some chicken breast and tell me how full you gonna feel.
Fresh healthy water has sodium in it, not the shit that is bottled, but even then you should drink based on how your body feel not a "recommended amount" suggested by idiots.
Also talking abous insulin resistance without mentioning toxins ( bpa glyphostae etc ) or the effect of food on the microbiome is just stupid.
No wonder people are not listening to both of you anymore.
i mean sabin. nutrition is just very complicated. i am concerned about james dinicolantonio drinking orange juice though
@@IWorfare A lot of things are complicated, that's no excuse not to find the truth and my statements hold true. But there's plenty of incentive to "discover" new and new stuff, both of them profit hugely from the confusion.
Most problems in todays age come from toxins, we have plenty of evidence for that, it's not the sugar or the potatoes or the rice or broccoli or meat. As humans we are highly adaptable, as you can see in the different tribes that eat whatever they can get. Toxins disturb your microbiome so then you can't digest/absorb stuff properly and your lining gets destroyed. That's why some people thrive on carnivore because they had the microbiome for that and they felt good, and some people thrive on vegan because they can't tolerate meat and some people thrive on anything and some on nothing. And you get dumbasses like Mickaila peterson that eats nothing but steak her entire life, instead of treating her root cause, a bad microbiome ( just like her dad ) she just "fixes" it by never having anything else. If you have a broken leg, don't fix your leg, just never walk again and you'll be fine. But hey, these guys will sell you 10 more books in the next 5 years and 100 supplements.
Most likely, the reason why carnivores A1C goes up is because their RBC's live longer than the average person. If you are not eating sugar, you are not creating inflammation so your blodd cells live longer
Lol, keep telling yourself that.
nope. it's cortisol rising and making you insulin resistant
Did you just make that up????
@@allenbrost9564 no, obviously not. Paul Mason talked about it a lot. It is a known phenomenon. Your rbc's get destroyed by sugar glycating them. Fructose causes 7x the damage in terms of glycation compared to glucose. Also fructose glycation DOES NOT show up on a A1C test. Thats specific to glucose.
Think about it: A1C measures glucose stuck to a hemoglobin molecule. If you are not eating sugar you cannot have elevated A1C UNLESS your rbc's live longer so that the small, small amount of glycation they do get "builds up" overtime.
Also, in pregnant women, rbc's have a SHORTER lifespan because the turnover is faster, cuz they have a growing human inside them.
Im not making anything up 😊
@@joerandom157 Guess that must be why my a1c is 4.0 🙄
Naked and afraid people don't add salt and they're thriving as long as they have access to unlimited fish and other protein sources. End of lesson.
They aren't thriving. I watch the show. They survive because fish are usually easy catches because they're dumb. But they are mostly getting by dry fasting (inadvertently keeping electrolytes in check). They survive, yes. Thrive? Not a chance.
No, they aren't. No one thrives without electrolytes and sodium is crucial.
waste of time talking about abs.
hahaha, no way! 🤡