This fly press brings back memories. I actually worked at John Heine & Son (at Leichhardt, NSW) starting as an apprentice in 1971. I can remember machining the "six sided taper" as you called it, on the end of the main screw. It was done on a horizontal mill using a side and face cutter, with the screw held in a fixture similar to a dividing head. They had some great "old school" tradesmen in those days and I learnt heaps.
That’s really cool! Does that section have a proper name? I’m just calling it that because I haven’t really seen much of this kind of stuff before. I’m sure they would have had a system for making that part, but it’s impressive nonetheless
Definitely sad to see a quality Australian manufacturer close down, I do have a few of their other tools in my sights, but it’s all money 😂 appreciate the comment though, it’s really cool to touch base with someone who helped bring these cool tools to life
I love to see old tools and machines being brought back to use especially fly presses. The screw thread is actually a helix cut on a milling machine. The lead of the 3 start thread would be to great to cut on a lathe. It would be classed as a square thread though.
I couldn’t agree more! And I did think that, the tool pressure to cut that on a lathe would be a lot, completely makes sense. Thanks for letting me know!
The patina thing isn't for me, but the tool came out great regardless. My machines are like people to me and I know that if they could, most people would return to their youth without any residual 'patina' in a heatbeat. Different strokes for different folks, still subscribed. Great work!
I’d love a fly press to supplement my other presses. But I’ve not found a decent one for less than a small fortune, no matter what the shape it’s in. I’ve welded up weird wrench sizes. It works fine as long as it’s not used on a regular basis. Too bad about crushing liquid. Now you have to take the press off the table, clean the table and bottom of the press and spray with anti rust and put it back together.
I admit I did have to pay a little for this one, but I did get it with another machine and sort of got a discount on the package, so I guess that helps me justify the cost in my mind 😂 I did plan that one ahead well enough that it wasn’t bolted down before crushing the can 😂 so clean up wasn’t so bad, I did also seal the hole on the table top which is something I didn’t show in the video, but it wasn’t too bad. Thanks for checking it out!
If there was a choice to place the undamaged side of the wear plate against the ram, that's what I'd have done, to reduce further wear on the ram. Wear plates are easily fabricated and replaced, replacing the ram probably isn't something you'd want to do. The oil grooves on the ram suggest that grease is NOT the correct lubricant. You'll just be trapping filings and shop grime, and further wearing the sliding parts. Easily corrected
Yeah that’s completely fair, I probably will flip it over, I did get another comment about this and they suggested way oil which I think I’m going to give a go, but thanks for the feedback 👍 I love the support from the comments
I also think it looks better unpainted, the patina has a story to tell, and the marbled green & tan finish to the piece looks quite appealing. Its finish is a form of natural art over time.. don't wipe it's history 😉
Don't use grease on the ram. I've overhauled more presses than I can count. I use ISO 68 way oil . It has drilled points for dropping oil in and not grease. I have dealt with the aftermath of someone pumping grease in to a Toggle Press thinking they were doing the right thing, and it nearly wrote the thing off. Grease is just a carrier for oil and the thin film of grease there won't release enough oil to keep it lubricated. Just keep it oiled and wipe it up as it leaks out
That completely makes sense! I was thinking I needed something that would “cling” to the surface and didn’t think of anything else, way oil would definitely do it, thanks for the tip!
Yeah that’s a fair point, I was thinking that the further I went in, the more stable, but I can see what you mean. Not a big deal to move it if needed, but appreciate the feedback!
@@nomadhandcrafted Love that you kept the patina look too, Lot of history in all those marks and worn paint. Also would you happen to know if the 182A would be suitable to for forging knifes and other tools with? Being a 3ton press I'm not entirely sure if I'd need something larger or not 🤔
To be honest, I’m not sure, there’s guys out there that I’ve seen do smaller stuff with a press this size and it’s not a perfect comparison, but I have a 10 tonne forging press here and I really need to watch the size of billets I make when doing Damascus, if you put the work into figuring out some really small drawing dies it would probably move enough material to forge a monosteel blade etc, but I think Damascus would probably be a stretch. (Not impossible, just a huge amount of hard work)
For now I can’t resist the charm it has with all of those layers of paint, but maybe one day if it starts to look too ratty. But I did toss and turn on the idea a lot! But thanks for checking it out!
amazing that all the younger generations love the " Patina " but then scrub it all off during cleaning....my generation does a complete restoration and repaint and re-chrome parts after mechanical repairs .
I thinks there’s a time and a place for both, and I haven’t really thought about it that way, but I suppose you do see different generations tackle things like that differently
😂 yeah I did have a little one on hand I did try, but I did find it was inclined to flick muck everywhere. Thankfully this whole thing wasn’t too bad, but I would definitely be going that way on something that had that “hard” layer of muck. But thanks for checking it out!
Oh for sure, I used it for about 5 minutes and managed to spray gunk all over my filming lights and camera 😂 I definitely didn’t think it through at the time 😂
Ahh there you go, I do need to give the engine bay of my car a good clean, I’ll have to grab some and give it a go. That makes sense because the simple green was not very strong at all 😂 thanks for the tip!
"Patina" code for wear, tear, rust and allowing an object to deteriorate and fall apart but it's your press not really a restoration though just a through cleaning.
Luckily I didn’t have to do a whole lot, I guess I’d call it a light restoration 😂 with a lot of scrubbing. And the penetrol should stop/slow down the deterioration, and hopefully keep it looking like this for years to come, but I do get that the look isn’t for everyone, thanks for checking it out!
Yeah that seems to be a bit of a mistake on my part, I’ve gotten a few comments like this, I’m going to strip it off and live it up with way oil. Appreciate the tip though!
I have been known to customise a few of my old iron machines over the years .for sure they earn their history , nothing worse in my eyes than glittery over done old iron machinery .
I couldn’t agree more! I’m hoping to add a few oldies myself when the budget allows, and hoping I can find the right kind of age when the time comes. Appreciate you checking it out!
Your channel deserves so many more subs. Great work!
Hey mate Thankyou! I’m sure they will come eventually, appreciate you checking it out!
This fly press brings back memories. I actually worked at John Heine & Son (at Leichhardt, NSW) starting as an apprentice in 1971. I can remember machining the "six sided taper" as you called it, on the end of the main screw. It was done on a horizontal mill using a side and face cutter, with the screw held in a fixture similar to a dividing head. They had some great "old school" tradesmen in those days and I learnt heaps.
That’s really cool! Does that section have a proper name? I’m just calling it that because I haven’t really seen much of this kind of stuff before. I’m sure they would have had a system for making that part, but it’s impressive nonetheless
@@nomadhandcrafted It was just a tapered hexagon machined to suit the handle. Sadly, John Heine & Son closed down decades ago.
Definitely sad to see a quality Australian manufacturer close down, I do have a few of their other tools in my sights, but it’s all money 😂 appreciate the comment though, it’s really cool to touch base with someone who helped bring these cool tools to life
I love to see old tools and machines being brought back to use especially fly presses.
The screw thread is actually a helix cut on a milling machine. The lead of the 3 start thread would be to great to cut on a lathe. It would be classed as a square thread though.
I couldn’t agree more! And I did think that, the tool pressure to cut that on a lathe would be a lot, completely makes sense. Thanks for letting me know!
The patina thing isn't for me, but the tool came out great regardless. My machines are like people to me and I know that if they could, most people would return to their youth without any residual 'patina' in a heatbeat. Different strokes for different folks, still subscribed. Great work!
Hey! Thankyou! I guess I never thought of it that way, but you’re right, I’d probably grow my hair back given the option 😂 appreciate the sub!
Nice video, I believe the AP Lever 7N fly press was the biggest Australian made one. Worth keeping an eye out on marketplace for.
Thanks! I’ll add that to my new items searches on gumtree etc. appreciate you checking it out
I’d love a fly press to supplement my other presses. But I’ve not found a decent one for less than a small fortune, no matter what the shape it’s in. I’ve welded up weird wrench sizes. It works fine as long as it’s not used on a regular basis. Too bad about crushing liquid. Now you have to take the press off the table, clean the table and bottom of the press and spray with anti rust and put it back together.
I admit I did have to pay a little for this one, but I did get it with another machine and sort of got a discount on the package, so I guess that helps me justify the cost in my mind 😂
I did plan that one ahead well enough that it wasn’t bolted down before crushing the can 😂 so clean up wasn’t so bad, I did also seal the hole on the table top which is something I didn’t show in the video, but it wasn’t too bad. Thanks for checking it out!
Great work on saving this press. Nice video
Hey mate thanks very much, appreciate you checking it out!
If there was a choice to place the undamaged side of the wear plate against the ram, that's what I'd have done, to reduce further wear on the ram. Wear plates are easily fabricated and replaced, replacing the ram probably isn't something you'd want to do. The oil grooves on the ram suggest that grease is NOT the correct lubricant. You'll just be trapping filings and shop grime, and further wearing the sliding parts. Easily corrected
Yeah that’s completely fair, I probably will flip it over, I did get another comment about this and they suggested way oil which I think I’m going to give a go, but thanks for the feedback 👍 I love the support from the comments
Little hint for you- when using a hole saw, spin it in reverse to score the cut, then forward to cut through. This helps eliminate tear out.
Ah I didn’t know that! Makes sense! Thanks for the tip!
I also think it looks better unpainted, the patina has a story to tell, and the marbled green & tan finish to the piece looks quite appealing. Its finish is a form of natural art over time.. don't wipe it's history 😉
Hey thanks very much! I completely agree! Appreciate you checking it out!
Don't use grease on the ram. I've overhauled more presses than I can count. I use ISO 68 way oil . It has drilled points for dropping oil in and not grease. I have dealt with the aftermath of someone pumping grease in to a Toggle Press thinking they were doing the right thing, and it nearly wrote the thing off. Grease is just a carrier for oil and the thin film of grease there won't release enough oil to keep it lubricated. Just keep it oiled and wipe it up as it leaks out
That completely makes sense! I was thinking I needed something that would “cling” to the surface and didn’t think of anything else, way oil would definitely do it, thanks for the tip!
Unc loved the old paint job. Im not a fan but what do I know.
😂 well at least I got a vote there, thanks for checking it out!
First sentence..... hmmm yes, i understand completely :)
Haha it took me ages to actually find one and pull the trigger. But I’m stoked I did! Thanks for checking it out!
It’s your choice, but i would have placed the press nearer to the table edge.
Now the table might be in the way when pressing a large object.
Yeah that’s a fair point, I was thinking that the further I went in, the more stable, but I can see what you mean. Not a big deal to move it if needed, but appreciate the feedback!
Just started looking up 182A presses for sale then come across this vid just being posted, Must be a sign 👀
I think it must be for sure 😂 I do like mine, it’s a really well made bit of kit 👍
@@nomadhandcrafted Love that you kept the patina look too, Lot of history in all those marks and worn paint. Also would you happen to know if the 182A would be suitable to for forging knifes and other tools with?
Being a 3ton press I'm not entirely sure if I'd need something larger or not 🤔
To be honest, I’m not sure, there’s guys out there that I’ve seen do smaller stuff with a press this size and it’s not a perfect comparison, but I have a 10 tonne forging press here and I really need to watch the size of billets I make when doing Damascus, if you put the work into figuring out some really small drawing dies it would probably move enough material to forge a monosteel blade etc, but I think Damascus would probably be a stretch. (Not impossible, just a huge amount of hard work)
@@nomadhandcrafted no worries, thanks for the info!
Anytime!!
You should paint it, I did mine and it looks great now.
For now I can’t resist the charm it has with all of those layers of paint, but maybe one day if it starts to look too ratty. But I did toss and turn on the idea a lot! But thanks for checking it out!
amazing that all the younger generations love the " Patina " but then scrub it all off during cleaning....my generation does a complete restoration and repaint and re-chrome parts after mechanical repairs .
I thinks there’s a time and a place for both, and I haven’t really thought about it that way, but I suppose you do see different generations tackle things like that differently
I know you didn't show, but all that scrubbing... :D you can get set of nylon brushes for drill. It helps a lot in cases like this
😂 yeah I did have a little one on hand I did try, but I did find it was inclined to flick muck everywhere. Thankfully this whole thing wasn’t too bad, but I would definitely be going that way on something that had that “hard” layer of muck. But thanks for checking it out!
@@nomadhandcrafted Yeah, it's "a little" messy attachment 😂
Oh for sure, I used it for about 5 minutes and managed to spray gunk all over my filming lights and camera 😂 I definitely didn’t think it through at the time 😂
I think it's called an " Acme " thread .
Ah, I don’t think it’s an acme as it dosent seem to have that trapezoidal shape, but it’s pretty similar!
It's not simple green that everyone uses, it's mean green but everyone calls it simple green, trust me, mean green will clean an engine very well
Ahh there you go, I do need to give the engine bay of my car a good clean, I’ll have to grab some and give it a go. That makes sense because the simple green was not very strong at all 😂 thanks for the tip!
"Patina" code for wear, tear, rust and allowing an object to deteriorate and fall apart but it's your press not really a restoration though just a through cleaning.
Luckily I didn’t have to do a whole lot, I guess I’d call it a light restoration 😂 with a lot of scrubbing.
And the penetrol should stop/slow down the deterioration, and hopefully keep it looking like this for years to come, but I do get that the look isn’t for everyone, thanks for checking it out!
Fly presses need to be lubricated with oil, not grease.
Yeah that seems to be a bit of a mistake on my part, I’ve gotten a few comments like this, I’m going to strip it off and live it up with way oil. Appreciate the tip though!
Thank you for leaving the patina, old tools have earned their scars, it always feels wrong to see someone deny a tools history by repainting it.
I just couldn’t do it 😂 I completely agree, all the character in these old tools is in the scars. Appreciate you checking it out!
I have been known to customise a few of my old iron machines over the years .for sure they earn their history , nothing worse in my eyes than glittery over done old iron machinery .
I couldn’t agree more! I’m hoping to add a few oldies myself when the budget allows, and hoping I can find the right kind of age when the time comes. Appreciate you checking it out!