They flew daily loaded with bombs, I was picking my kids up and just spotted one going over, but be fair if it dropped a bomb I might as well try to catch it, nowhere to run . Let us hope it never happens@@diane9656
The Avro Vulcan was an amazing plane. There's never been, and never will be, another like it. It had an amazing howl, which was unearthly and raised goosebumps whenever you heard it. Until 2015, there was still one flying, XH558. I had the pleasure of watching it at airshows and on it's farewell tour of Britain. I miss it.
I live in Lincoln and had the joy of seeing the Red Arrows, Vulcan and the odd Lancaster all flying about the skies of our City. In around 2013/2014 I was in the pub with some mates, one of them air bar/rooftop bar things at a place called the Cloud Bar in Lincoln (closed down now) and it has a great view of our Cathedral. Unbeknownst to me, there was a flyover happening that day of 3 planes over the Cathedral. It was a Lancaster, Vulcan and I forget the other. I tried to record it on my phone but they were too distant by the time I realised what I was seeing lol. I always took for granted the Red Arrows and whatnot because you see them every other day here. Now as an adult I appreciate how lucky we are in Lincoln!
@@trevorpaz3441 We'd been on holiday in Lincolnshire and were heading home when the traffic ground to a stop near the RAF base. Everyone was getting out of their cars and looking upwards so we did too. We were treated to the Red Arrows having a practice run for about half an hour. It was amazing, and I'll never forget it.
@@annettereynolds1995 We have so many RAF bases in Lincolnshire I'm not sure which you mean lol. As a guess I would say RAF Scampton or RAF Waddington? Glad you have such a great and fond memory of Lincolnshire. Such a hidden gem in England, but then, I love it here and I'm quite biased lol!
The Vulcan is a plane that evoked huge emotions in people of a certain age. And still does to this day. In a very similar way as Concorde does. It was a very, very special plane.
I remember back in the 60s and 70s The Cold War, looking up and seeing them flying in a V formation. Little white triangles in front of their vapour trails practically every day. Great yrs long gone now.
Russia never developed anything like the Vulcan. The UK has always had the best Air Force in the world. My father was in the RAF and although he never served on Vulcans, he still greatly respects them.
They didn't because there wasn't really much need for that as there was no reason to suspect US Airspace was penetrable by large, bulky bombers. That's why these events were classified. Not because of shame but because if the info leaked - USSR would know exactly what their weakness is. Russia had supersonic high altitude bombers too, so Vulcan is in no way unique. The only thing Vulcan had different was the jamming, which is not really that much of a requirement for such aircraft in most cases. It was an experiment - one that showed that it is. And still, as you saw in the second exercise - you don't need Vulcans as they successfully penetrated the airspace with traditional bombers aswell, just with higher casualty rate. Either way in an actual Nuclear War, USA would be fucked (Obviously as would USSR) - pair it with ICBM's which were almost entirely impossible to successfully intercept and the world is basically sterilized.
I would say America has the best air force due to there sheer number of planes \ drones ect. But we do have the best navy and elite special forces like the .S.A.S . Who trained the Navy seals for a time We are also the undefeated P4P Champions at war Because we have been fighting for over a 1000 Years.. 😉✌🏻🇬🇧
Dude. What should concern you more than anything else is that those simulated attacks happened in a sterile airspace environment. No civilian aircraft whatsoever. Imagine if the vulcans could hide themselves amongst civilian air traffic?
You can't really hide amongst civilian aircraft. All civilian aircraft are tagged and accounted for at all times. If a blob on radar comes up on radar that doesn't have an identifier - you shoot. Not really that difficult.
@@egonieser True, but on older radar, which didnt have the best range, you could get close enough to another civie plane thats heading for the US, the civie would be heading for a big city, and you just stay close and boom, 1 city gone. You do remember the hi tech ECM the Vulcan had right, it stopped the fighter plains from finding them, civilian planes dont stand a chance. Everything becomes harder when civilians are involved, thank god it was an exercise, shame the US didnt really do too much with the info they learned on the first attempt, whole point of an exercise is to learn and adjust.
The real surprise in this was the step change in defence for the second exercise making no difference 360 fighters plus sam sites v 330 bombers, and then 1800 fighters plus sam sites v 110 bombers and yet the result was the same. The Vulcan was a very special aircraft for it's time. It carried out the longest ever bombing raid ( at the time ) in 1982 during the Falklands war. It had been in the process of being retired and it was a real scramble to get enough that were still airworthy to use. Some parts were even sourced from one in an American air museum. If you want to know more about that raid ( and you really should), look up Operation Black Buck. There is a good video on if by Megaprojects, and a very good but rather long video for a reaction, by the Operations Room, which is approaching a million views.
If you think this was a strong mission. The Vulcans were deployed in 1982 to stage what became the longest bombing raid in history (8000 miles) from a single airfield and back (4k each way). Please look up operation Black Buck.
The thing that makes me laugh the most is unlike a real attack, they knew we were coming, shut down distracting commercial aircraft and still couldn't see us 🤣
The pine tree gap... It's a line of radar stations in Canada. That stretch from the east to the west coast of Canada. The pine trees gap is designed to detect and track intercontinental nukes launch from Russia... The shortest distance between Russia and America is a sight line over the north Pole. So the pine tree gap acts as an early warning system for America and Canada.... I think its still being used 😊
And that is why there is the 'Great' in Britain... The fact we were invited to take part a second time, and you knew what to expect, your armed forces still failed...
“The Pinetree Line was a series of radar stations located across the northern United States and southern Canada at about the 50th parallel north, along with a number of other stations located on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. Run by North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) (after its creation), over half were staffed by United States Air Force personnel with the balance operated by the Royal Canadian Air Force. The line was the first coordinated system for early detection of a Soviet bomber attack on North America, but before the early 1950s radar technology quickly became outdated and the line was in full operation only for a short time.”
@@christianking3915 …and I’ve acknowledged the fact I’ve copied and pasted by enclosing it in inverted commas. I hid nothing, so stop trying to be a smart-arse.
Mark Felton is really worth your time. A genuine historian and an excellent presenter. He can find things that seem to have been forgotten, he has recently done a few videos putting the Ukraine- Russia conflict into it’s historical context that are absolutely fascinating.
The thing is Britain has over 1000 years of almost unwinnable military experience and documents that they ended up winning to refer too. America has next to nothing. That's why this happened.
@@McNab1986 Yes we do. Where did I say aerial experience? Oh yeah, Nowhere! All military experience is valid not just air because it was done with aircraft, You pillock!
If you like the history between American forces and British, look up the battle of bamber bridge. It’s about how the British welcomed the black soldiers of WW2 and the conflict that rose from that. My favourite quote from that time was when the Americans demanded we segregate our pubs, the British put out a sign that said ‘Black soldiers only’.
It's hard to believe that there was less than 10 years separating the designs of the Avro Lancaster and the Vulcan, both designed by teams headed by Roy Chadwick!
another good one mate love from the uk, you should check out ''the greatest raid of them all'' is also known as the raid at st.nazzare the first royal commando's mission and its insane
Vulcan was one part of "V Force" the others were the Victor and Valiant this was the British Heavy Bomber Fleet we also had Canberra smaller but very versatile. If you want to know more about Vulcan, check out the documentary about the "Black Buck" missions carried out in the Falklands Conflict 1982 or the story of Vulcan 607 on the same subject. You can look up several RUclips videos about the Vulcan Howl an awesome sound.
Coffee? Should try a nice English breakfast tea, make sure kettle is boiled and the milk always go's in last. Oh I fancy a nice cup of tea now. 👍👊✌️🇬🇧. Of course it happened, Great Britain is a great teacher and the Vulcan was a tasty bomber, lol! We had three V bombers, Victor, Valiant and Vulcan, the good old days when Great Britain built the best aircraft, Rolls Royce still makes the finest engines. 😁👍👊✌️🇬🇧.
The noise of the Vulcan engines just oozed power & strength. Magnificent looking flying monster I can still remember seeing her fly over Duxford 25yrs ago that still feels like it was only yesterday, such was it's impression on me.
A few years ago an old Army Veteran I used to look after use to say, tongue in cheek, when talking about troops on the ground during WW2 on both sides, "When the British fly over the Germans duck, when the Germans fly over the British duck, when the Americans fly over we both duck!" 😉
The Vulcan so ahead of its time if you like history check out Jeremy Clarkson's the greatest raid of all times. It's about an hour long so would need to be done in at least two parts. But This documentary shows how hard it is to get a Victoria Cross and the type of people that managed to get one for their bravery.
Sadly missed indeed Catherine. I grew up not far from the Avro plant where Vulcans were built, and remember vividly when during one of its first test flights, one flew over my parents' house. The sound was like nothing ever heard before, and the whole neighbourhood ran into the streets in panic. My sister and I were mesmerised, it was flying so low it barely missed the chimneys, and it filled the sky above the cul-de-sac completely...rooftop to rooftop...an incredible sight. We've been hooked on planes, especially the Vulcan, ever since, and we're now in our 70s!
These exercises still happen in the US, called Red Flag exercises where occasionally overseas air forces are invited to participate. Some of the best Vulcan stories come from the Red Flag exercises of the 70s amd 80s. This video tells of Vulcans flying high but in the 70s, the UK also had a fighter/bomber called a Blackburn Buccaneer. The Vulcans would fly in low, the Buccaneers would fly in lower. Due to the shape of their belly, the plane created an air cushion for it to fly on. A commenter below mentions the USAF telling their pilots to watch for dust trails. The Buc pilots were told to fly higher than the 10-20 ft they were running at to reduce that dust. Best story for me though is the Vulcan attack from Canada. A single Vulcan travelled south and then came in at 50ft towards the "target" airfield. Because of it's size, it was picked up by radar and the pilot was instructed to abort as it had been spotted and deemed destroyed. As the Vulcan peeled off, two Bucs that had been flying under the wings shot out at 20 ft height and made a b-line to the target and were successful in "destroying" it before the air defences had chance to ping them. o7 to the lads and lasses of the RAF.
There are a couple of videos on YT concerning Buccaneers and these joint exercises. The Americans were getting so fed up with the Buccaneers beating them that their pilots were instructed to pick them off as they gained height immediately after take off. The Americans had been spotted, so to combat this tactic the Buccaneers started their take off runs, and on reaching take off speed simply raised their undercarriages and flew on no more than 10 feet in the air. In another exercise the Americans were practicing low flying and so-called terrain following, only to find that the Buccaneers were flying below them, in the gap between what they considered low flying and the ground. Absolute masters of their craft. ruclips.net/video/aIqjKEm6n3Q/видео.html&ab_channel=LeeGibson
When you consider that the Vulcan was designed in the late 1940's it still looks incredibly modern today. It had a rate of climb and the agility of a fighter.
I saw a fly over of Vulcans in the early 70s in New Zealand as my School was on the flight path to NZs main Airfoirce base. They were avsolutely awsome and incredibly loud.
I remember going to air shows at RAF Lakenheath (don't think I've spelled that right.) The Vulcan would do a flyover and set off all car alarms! 🏴
Imagine the affect on US economy with no flights just to be embarrassed by the UK a tiny little thing of an island 😂 🤣 “We are more than just an island” as one of our tv commercials say 🤣 that references out RAF and military
As a child, my parents were erecting our tent on a cliff edge whilst my brother and I ran between the car and tent carrying the equipment - suddenly a Vulcan rose from nowhere - it had flown in beneath the cliff height and with full throttle was increasing altitude to clear the cliff - it felt as though our mini was about to get blasted into the sea. Truly spectacular. Saw one again years later at an air-show - it was a magnificent piece of flying machinery, the pride of British engineering, perhaps only bettered by Concorde??
You missed hearing (because you talked over the commentary) that the Vulcan served as Britain's airborne nuclear deterrent from 1956 until it was retired in 1984.
Had the privilege growing up of not only watching but hearing the Vulcan at Leuchars Air Base up the road from me over the years. So beautiful in looks and manoeuvrability accompanied by the howl and roar. Wow.
In more recent years the Swedes have managed to do something similar when one of their diesel electric subs sank the USS Ronald Reagan in an exercise. However, this time the US Navy decided to use US Tax dollars to borrow one of the subs to work out how the Swedes managed to sneak in, sink an aircraft carrier and sneak back out.
The Swedes developed the Stirling Engine as it is silent running, minimal parts and can move quick enough when heated. That is how they managed to perform that task and get out without being heard or seen. It was so slow moving radar can not pick it up as it is near stationary in the water.
Australian Collins class diesel submarines have also done it they are enlarged versions of Swedish Vastergotland class fitted with a fast tracked version of the AN/BYG-1 combat system developed for the Virginia class at the time (now updated) with the same Mark 48 torpedoes as the Virginia's
I am 64 now but when I was about 9 My farther was in the RAF and where we lived there were 4 Vulcans parked abour 200 meters away from our back yard always on stand by
A really good video you should see is "What does it take to earn Britain's Medal of Honour". It's a mini-documentary about the Victoria Cross, the UK's highest military award and about some of the men who have been awarded it.
The Vulcan is a big plane, it could out manouver to evade Soviet interceptor jets at high altitude. Imagine a strategic nuclear bomber performing like a jet fighter.
Excellent review once again matey. The Vulcan was indeed an absolute beauty. Famous for the Vulcan howl. Check it out, it's in RUclips. It's the most spine tingling sound ever. Take care Buddy
The Vulcan was designed to penetrate the Soviet AA system. An excellent allied long range nuclear bomber to test the US defenses. They also didn't want the Soviets to know. Mind you the KGB probably found out fairy quickly.
a vulcan is based at York Air museum. I was there with my dad in the 90s with our classic truck. They was a old rally on. They started up the vulcan I shit my self what a scary sound they make
Me and my best mate had our pictures taken for the local paper at an airshow back in the day. We were both in the ATC and they wanted two cadets with their fingers in their ears for the article. The Vulcans were incredibly loud - arguably one of, if not the loudest jet at the time.
the Vulcan also holds the world record for the longest bombing raid in history, it flew 8000 miles during the falklands war to bomb Port Stanley Airport, also of note the vulcan wax designed by the same man who designed the Lancaster bomber in WW2
Held, it was beaten by a B2. USA to Afghanistan, 44 hours. Then land on Diego Garcia, change crews and 30 hours back. Of course the flight would have been easier, more room,less air defence,onboard toilet, knowing where your tankers are etc.
Two Mark Felton videos worth watching - Vulcan - "Black Buck"- Falklands. WWII Atomic Bomb - RAF Avro Lancaster was nearly used to drop the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I saw the Vulcan bombers in air shows back in the 1980's... The most wonderful and horrifying sounds you'll ever hear, truly awe-inspiring aircraft of all time.
The vulcan is held with similar regard in our UK hearts as Concorde, the Lancaster and Spitfire I would say. Here is another good mark Felton video that also put a UK cold War plane against the US, the English Electric Lightning interceptor vs U2. Well worth a watch ruclips.net/video/8DdUwIhI-ZA/видео.html
If your ever over in the UK. Two of the best air museums to visit are Duxford and RAF cosford. Another good museum is bovington for tanks and in London HMS Belfast is a must to visit.
Another good video and reaction. Another American RUclipsr's reaction to "When Britain nuked America twice" was to say "thank god the US is allies with the UK". Again another example of UK punching above its weight.
When I was a kid I saw the Vulcan for the first time at an airshow. The noise from the engines was so loud it set off all the car alarms in the car park. That was my introduction to the most awesome sounding plane ever!
Notice how the numbers change from sky shield one to two in the first it was 360 American planes against 310 the second time it was 1800 American planes plus 250 missile silo sights against only about 175 and yet again the USA answer is to throw numbers at it and it still didn't work LMAO numbers are not always the answer
Well, historically speaking, they've usually lacked the other option (intelligence and experience), but I will say their military are much better these days (in no small part due to working so closely with us for the last 20 years)
To be fair, the UK military have upmost respect for our close friends in the US military. It would be very Un-British to boast or show off. They would’ve just got on with the exercise. The Vulcan was a beautiful aircraft. It’s actually part of the V-bomber project in the Cold War where the UK government tendered 3 British aircraft manufacturers to each produce heavy nuclear bombers. All three types were built; the Vulcan, the Valiant and the Victor. The Victor is such a scary looking airplane, like a UFO. You might be interested to read about the V-bombers, especially during the Falkland war in 1982. You could easily do a great video about that. It’ll all be on Google. Next time you’re in the UK I’ll take you to the Imperial Museum at Duxford (it was a RAF/USAF base in WW2).They have a Vulcan, Concorde, B52 and loads of others. It’s actually got a huge dedicated American exhibition hanger where the B52 lives. There’s a memorial glass wall with every single name of American airman who were lost. It’s chilling to see the thousands of names.
Used to go to air shows before they retired them. engines almost the same as what was used in Concorde, low fly by, pull up and full afterburners. Amazing aircraft
Great review of this lesson sir. The Vulcan was an aerial anomaly. She was jaw dropping. Beautiful in every aspect of flight. More important is the repeated pregnability of an impregnable nation. Salute sir. Love your videos.
On one of its last flights, the Vulcan flew over the town where I live as we helped make the engines here. Wow, the howl was amazing. Had gone up a hill for a better view, but had to run home to check my windows were still intact!!
More recently the British SAS outwitted the US Navy Seals in a training exercise. This goes to show we may be a small island but we have a well trained military. 🇬🇧
Good Morning, and in case I don't see you later, Good Afternoon, Good Evening, and Good Night! (as Trueman once energetically said!) Learnt a lot from this, not to mention your interjections and the comments below! Fantastic. Thanks (all!)
My brother in law who was in the RAF told me about the exercise in the mid 60's but it wasn't common knowledge. The Vulcan was a fantastic aircraft way before its time, I've been under one when it flew vertically up, the heat and noise from the jet engine was something to be experienced.
1955 Farnborough Airshow , test pilot Roly Falk Barrel rolled the Vulcan. Try doing that in a B52!! None flying today unfortunately. Had the privilege to see one a few years ago. I say see, but you feel a Vulcan coming. Your chest reverberates. Wonderful aircraft. Great post, keep up the good work.
The Pinetree Line was a series of radar stations located across the northern United States and southern Canada at about the 50th parallel north, along with a number of other stations located on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts.
The two things that stand out fr me is 1) It was not even a surprise, the Americans new that they were coming & 2) The Vulcan Airman who decided to land their aircraft at the very airfield that the defenders had came from. I would love to have seen the faces on the US Airman knowing that the aircraft that just landed could (potentially) have destroyed New York City... priceless
The vulcan is a beast! The vulcan's last mission in the 80s is well worth looking into when they bombed the Falklands to reclaim it from the Argentinians.
I too had the pleasure of seeing the Vulcan in action at various airshows here in the UK including its very last flight. The Vulcan howl was awesome and had to heard to be believed. I would recommend watching a film on the Vulcan and there is another one on the 3 "V Bombers" you should watch too.
3 Vulcans made a 16,000 mile round trip the bomb the Argentinian base in the Falkland war in 1982. The first time I saw a Vulcan close up was at an airshow at Barton, Manchester. It flew low and pulled away making them most frightening sound I ever heard. I sounded like a pack of wolves howling at night.
mark felton great channel if you wanna learn bout history very well produced you go down that rabbit hole you're stuck on it for days on end binge-watching his stuff
Saw the last flying Vulcan on it's very last flight. It circled Hastings Town East Sussex a couple of times, then flew low just up the coast at Fairlight cliffs, As it flew past we gave a wave (so low, we could see the pilot) and he gave the plane a waggle as it went past. PS..........Check out the Vid about how a Vulcan Bomber flew to the Falklands and bombed the runway at Port Stanley. That stopped the Argies from using the airfield .......and the rest as they say is History!
The Royal Air Force. The oldest Air Force in the world. Per Ardua Ad Astra. I served in the RAF 1980 to 1997. First posting was RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire. The aircraft based there were Vulcans. Happy days.
If you like History then I'd highly recommend The Greatest Raid on St Nazaire during WW2. The video is about 1 hour long, so you may need to split it if you were to cover it. The story is not well known, but is phenominal and most likely one of the key turning pionts in the fight in Europe during the war. Link to video: ruclips.net/video/SCMCr2Kh1wI/видео.html
They are long ones, but you would not regret checking out Jeremy Clarkson's documentaries 'What it takes to win the British medal of honour (Victoria cross)' and 'The Greatest Raid of All Time'. Jeremy Clarkson has a reputation for acting the fool but his history stuff is fantastic, amazing, serious and engaging.
You are one of three American RUclips react channels that I have seen that has respect for the UK 🇬🇧 thank you
He’s one of four that has reacted to this particular programme .
@@lordcharfield who?
The Natasha and Debbie Show , the same. Loves Americas allies
They flew daily loaded with bombs, I was picking my kids up and just spotted one going over, but be fair if it dropped a bomb I might as well try to catch it, nowhere to run . Let us hope it never happens@@diane9656
In the Army we always used to say about the American forces..." All the gear and no idea!" 😂
Don’t think that phrase would be unique to the army
The British army aren't much better.
@@michaelpurcell5508 But better! 🇬🇧
@@Paul-hl8yg what?
@@michaelpurcell5508 you said 'much better' . which mean slightly better
We Brits may be small, but we sure are mighty.
MY QUESTION IS---OUT OF THIS MINOR ? DISASTER , DID BRITAIN DIVOLVE ALL OUR HI-TECH RADAR GEAR, TO OUR CLOSEST ALLY ?
The Avro Vulcan was an amazing plane. There's never been, and never will be, another like it. It had an amazing howl, which was unearthly and raised goosebumps whenever you heard it. Until 2015, there was still one flying, XH558. I had the pleasure of watching it at airshows and on it's farewell tour of Britain. I miss it.
Yep sounds like a T REX and looks like a Moth.
I live in Lincoln and had the joy of seeing the Red Arrows, Vulcan and the odd Lancaster all flying about the skies of our City.
In around 2013/2014 I was in the pub with some mates, one of them air bar/rooftop bar things at a place called the Cloud Bar in Lincoln (closed down now) and it has a great view of our Cathedral. Unbeknownst to me, there was a flyover happening that day of 3 planes over the Cathedral. It was a Lancaster, Vulcan and I forget the other. I tried to record it on my phone but they were too distant by the time I realised what I was seeing lol.
I always took for granted the Red Arrows and whatnot because you see them every other day here. Now as an adult I appreciate how lucky we are in Lincoln!
@@trevorpaz3441 We'd been on holiday in Lincolnshire and were heading home when the traffic ground to a stop near the RAF base. Everyone was getting out of their cars and looking upwards so we did too. We were treated to the Red Arrows having a practice run for about half an hour. It was amazing, and I'll never forget it.
@@annettereynolds1995 We have so many RAF bases in Lincolnshire I'm not sure which you mean lol. As a guess I would say RAF Scampton or RAF Waddington?
Glad you have such a great and fond memory of Lincolnshire. Such a hidden gem in England, but then, I love it here and I'm quite biased lol!
Looks amazing and shocked that it was made back then. Looks before it's time to me.
Mark Felton is a legit historian with a postgraduate certificate in political science, an Masters in Native American studies, and a PhD in history.
The Vulcan is a plane that evoked huge emotions in people of a certain age. And still does to this day. In a very similar way as Concorde does. It was a very, very special plane.
i miss that howl. used to watch it down clacton air show
@@ragey666 It was the star of every air show it flew at. I get goosebumps everytime i even thinking about that plane.
They were stationed where I’m from and used to see many of them daily
oooh man concorde... miss hearing/seeing that plane... the king needs to do a reaction to the concorde too
I remember back in the 60s and 70s The Cold War, looking up and seeing them flying in a V formation. Little white triangles in front of their vapour trails practically every day. Great yrs long gone now.
Russia never developed anything like the Vulcan. The UK has always had the best Air Force in the world. My father was in the RAF and although he never served on Vulcans, he still greatly respects them.
They didn't because there wasn't really much need for that as there was no reason to suspect US Airspace was penetrable by large, bulky bombers. That's why these events were classified. Not because of shame but because if the info leaked - USSR would know exactly what their weakness is.
Russia had supersonic high altitude bombers too, so Vulcan is in no way unique. The only thing Vulcan had different was the jamming, which is not really that much of a requirement for such aircraft in most cases. It was an experiment - one that showed that it is. And still, as you saw in the second exercise - you don't need Vulcans as they successfully penetrated the airspace with traditional bombers aswell, just with higher casualty rate.
Either way in an actual Nuclear War, USA would be fucked (Obviously as would USSR) - pair it with ICBM's which were almost entirely impossible to successfully intercept and the world is basically sterilized.
I would say America has the best air force due to there sheer number of planes \ drones ect.
But we do have the best navy and elite special forces like the .S.A.S .
Who trained the Navy seals for a time
We are also the undefeated P4P
Champions at war
Because we have been fighting for over a 1000
Years..
😉✌🏻🇬🇧
Don't forget Intelligence.😊
Dude. What should concern you more than anything else is that those simulated attacks happened in a sterile airspace environment. No civilian aircraft whatsoever. Imagine if the vulcans could hide themselves amongst civilian air traffic?
You can't really hide amongst civilian aircraft. All civilian aircraft are tagged and accounted for at all times. If a blob on radar comes up on radar that doesn't have an identifier - you shoot. Not really that difficult.
@@egonieser True, but on older radar, which didnt have the best range, you could get close enough to another civie plane thats heading for the US, the civie would be heading for a big city, and you just stay close and boom, 1 city gone. You do remember the hi tech ECM the Vulcan had right, it stopped the fighter plains from finding them, civilian planes dont stand a chance.
Everything becomes harder when civilians are involved, thank god it was an exercise, shame the US didnt really do too much with the info they learned on the first attempt, whole point of an exercise is to learn and adjust.
The real surprise in this was the step change in defence for the second exercise making no difference 360 fighters plus sam sites v 330 bombers, and then 1800 fighters plus sam sites v 110 bombers and yet the result was the same. The Vulcan was a very special aircraft for it's time. It carried out the longest ever bombing raid ( at the time ) in 1982 during the Falklands war. It had been in the process of being retired and it was a real scramble to get enough that were still airworthy to use. Some parts were even sourced from one in an American air museum. If you want to know more about that raid ( and you really should), look up Operation Black Buck. There is a good video on if by Megaprojects, and a very good but rather long video for a reaction, by the Operations Room, which is approaching a million views.
and both times there were no other aircraft in the skies and the USAF knew the Vulcans were coming. Imagine if it was a total surprise
You should read up on the potential successor to the Vulcan the TSR 2. If it was built that is.
The impressive thing was all commercial traffic was grounded, you knew we were coming and we still got through !
"Thanks to the Brits they always keep us on our toes..."
TY. I can think of no greater compliment....
I went to an air show as a kid, they had a Vulcan fly, that howl still gives me goose bumps...even when I hear it on you tube...
Same, used to go to Biggin Hill airshow most summers as we lived pretty close. Always loved to see the Red Arrows as a kid
have to agree, unbelievable sound.
If you think this was a strong mission. The Vulcans were deployed in 1982 to stage what became the longest bombing raid in history (8000 miles) from a single airfield and back (4k each way). Please look up operation Black Buck.
The thing that makes me laugh the most is unlike a real attack, they knew we were coming, shut down distracting commercial aircraft and still couldn't see us 🤣
Not once but twice 🤣
The pine tree gap...
It's a line of radar stations in Canada. That stretch from the east to the west coast of Canada.
The pine trees gap is designed to detect and track intercontinental nukes launch from Russia...
The shortest distance between Russia and America is a sight line over the north Pole. So the pine tree gap acts as an early warning system for America and Canada....
I think its still being used 😊
Didn’t know that, thanks. At this rate the Western world might need it.
Thanks for the information.
The Pine Tree Line was closed down and dismantled in the 1980’s as technology in automation and radar capabilities had rendered it obsolete.
And that is why there is the 'Great' in Britain...
The fact we were invited to take part a second time, and you knew what to expect, your armed forces still failed...
“The Pinetree Line was a series of radar stations located across the northern United States and southern Canada at about the 50th parallel north, along with a number of other stations located on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. Run by North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) (after its creation), over half were staffed by United States Air Force personnel with the balance operated by the Royal Canadian Air Force. The line was the first coordinated system for early detection of a Soviet bomber attack on North America, but before the early 1950s radar technology quickly became outdated and the line was in full operation only for a short time.”
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…and I’ve acknowledged the fact I’ve copied and pasted by enclosing it in inverted commas. I hid nothing, so stop trying to be a smart-arse.
Mark Felton is really worth your time. A genuine historian and an excellent presenter. He can find things that seem to have been forgotten, he has recently done a few videos putting the Ukraine- Russia conflict into it’s historical context that are absolutely fascinating.
The thing is Britain has over 1000 years of almost unwinnable military experience and documents that they ended up winning to refer too. America has next to nothing. That's why this happened.
No we don't, we have the same amount of aerial doctrine experience as every other country that built an air force during WW1
@@McNab1986 Yes we do. Where did I say aerial experience? Oh yeah, Nowhere! All military experience is valid not just air because it was done with aircraft, You pillock!
Completely asinine comment. Bury your head back in the sand fella.
@@technationuk5802 It's the truth you bellend. Would have thought someone called TechNation would have a bit more sense.
@@thetruth6417 Keep your head in the sand, forget to breath and let natural selection remove another lost soul.
If you like the history between American forces and British, look up the battle of bamber bridge. It’s about how the British welcomed the black soldiers of WW2 and the conflict that rose from that. My favourite quote from that time was when the Americans demanded we segregate our pubs, the British put out a sign that said ‘Black soldiers only’.
What you have to realise is the UK produces more scientific papers than the US and is rated higher in science than the US.
The Sky Shield exercises may have cost a lot of money. But the cost of being found out for real by the likes of the USSR would have been way higher.
it shouldn't be seen as embarrassing that's what these exercises are designed to do, mind you there's no excuse for failing the second time.
The Vulcan bomber is Iconic here in the UK .
The Vulcan bomber flew all the way from the uk to the Falkland Islands, blew up an airfield then flew back lol beast of an aircraft
it flew from Assention island for the mission
@Delta 1 no.
Left from Ascension with an in-flight refuelling matrix involving 11 Victors to get 1 Vulcan to Stanley.
It's hard to believe that there was less than 10 years separating the designs of the Avro Lancaster and the Vulcan, both designed by teams headed by Roy Chadwick!
another good one mate love from the uk, you should check out ''the greatest raid of them all'' is also known as the raid at st.nazzare the first royal commando's mission and its insane
You have to react to this mate....Jeremy Clarkson (Top Gear Fame) at his absolute best!!!
That and the how to win a Victoria cross, equally as good
Vulcan was one part of "V Force" the others were the Victor and Valiant this was the British Heavy Bomber Fleet we also had Canberra smaller but very versatile.
If you want to know more about Vulcan, check out the documentary about the "Black Buck" missions carried out in the Falklands Conflict 1982 or the story of Vulcan 607 on the same subject.
You can look up several RUclips videos about the Vulcan Howl an awesome sound.
Coffee? Should try a nice English breakfast tea, make sure kettle is boiled and the milk always go's in last. Oh I fancy a nice cup of tea now. 👍👊✌️🇬🇧. Of course it happened, Great Britain is a great teacher and the Vulcan was a tasty bomber, lol! We had three V bombers, Victor, Valiant and Vulcan, the good old days when Great Britain built the best aircraft, Rolls Royce still makes the finest engines. 😁👍👊✌️🇬🇧.
The noise of the Vulcan engines just oozed power & strength. Magnificent looking flying monster I can still remember seeing her fly over Duxford 25yrs ago that still feels like it was only yesterday, such was it's impression on me.
A few years ago an old Army Veteran I used to look after use to say, tongue in cheek, when talking about troops on the ground during WW2 on both sides, "When the British fly over the Germans duck, when the Germans fly over the British duck, when the Americans fly over we both duck!" 😉
You know the Black n white stripes on Aircraft used in DDAY ? It was for the Americans to identify the RAF and first used on Typhoons in 43
The Vulcan so ahead of its time if you like history check out Jeremy Clarkson's the greatest raid of all times. It's about an hour long so would need to be done in at least two parts. But This documentary shows how hard it is to get a Victoria Cross and the type of people that managed to get one for their bravery.
And likewise watch hacksaw ridge for astonishing US Bravery in ww2
Whats funny is those Vulcan bombers are so loud, you can here them coming from 50 miles away....but already too late if you can hear them.
She was a lovely aircraft, you first heard a howl followed by a wall of sound. Beautiful bird, sadly missed.
Sadly missed indeed Catherine. I grew up not far from the Avro plant where Vulcans were built, and remember vividly when during one of its first test flights, one flew over my parents' house. The sound was like nothing ever heard before, and the whole neighbourhood ran into the streets in panic. My sister and I were mesmerised, it was flying so low it barely missed the chimneys, and it filled the sky above the cul-de-sac completely...rooftop to rooftop...an incredible sight. We've been hooked on planes, especially the Vulcan, ever since, and we're now in our 70s!
IT WASN'T 2 NUKES,IT WAS MULTIPLE NUKES ON TWO SEPERATE OCCASIONS.
The "twice" in the title referring to those "two times," not the number of bombs.
These exercises still happen in the US, called Red Flag exercises where occasionally overseas air forces are invited to participate. Some of the best Vulcan stories come from the Red Flag exercises of the 70s amd 80s. This video tells of Vulcans flying high but in the 70s, the UK also had a fighter/bomber called a Blackburn Buccaneer. The Vulcans would fly in low, the Buccaneers would fly in lower. Due to the shape of their belly, the plane created an air cushion for it to fly on. A commenter below mentions the USAF telling their pilots to watch for dust trails. The Buc pilots were told to fly higher than the 10-20 ft they were running at to reduce that dust.
Best story for me though is the Vulcan attack from Canada. A single Vulcan travelled south and then came in at 50ft towards the "target" airfield. Because of it's size, it was picked up by radar and the pilot was instructed to abort as it had been spotted and deemed destroyed. As the Vulcan peeled off, two Bucs that had been flying under the wings shot out at 20 ft height and made a b-line to the target and were successful in "destroying" it before the air defences had chance to ping them. o7 to the lads and lasses of the RAF.
Had the nickname, at one time, Blackburn Bulldozer. One had clipped the top of a sand dune during a Red Flag exercise. it still completed the sortie.
Nothing says more about how good the Vulcan is than that story. Can you image the Oh shit moment of realising there were more planes.
There are a couple of videos on YT concerning Buccaneers and these joint exercises. The Americans were getting so fed up with the Buccaneers beating them that their pilots were instructed to pick them off as they gained height immediately after take off. The Americans had been spotted, so to combat this tactic the Buccaneers started their take off runs, and on reaching take off speed simply raised their undercarriages and flew on no more than 10 feet in the air. In another exercise the Americans were practicing low flying and so-called terrain following, only to find that the Buccaneers were flying below them, in the gap between what they considered low flying and the ground. Absolute masters of their craft.
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When you consider that the Vulcan was designed in the late 1940's it still looks incredibly modern today. It had a rate of climb and the agility of a fighter.
I saw a fly over of Vulcans in the early 70s in New Zealand as my School was on the flight path to NZs main Airfoirce base. They were avsolutely awsome and incredibly loud.
I often wonder how many UFO reports the Vulcans generated. Most Americans wouldn't recognise the profile, the weird delta shape.
We need to keep each other on our toes. Brothers in Arms 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
I remember going to air shows at RAF Lakenheath (don't think I've spelled that right.) The Vulcan would do a flyover and set off all car alarms! 🏴
The vulcan howl is a sound you never forget amazing compilations on YT as well.
Imagine the affect on US economy with no flights just to be embarrassed by the UK a tiny little thing of an island 😂 🤣
“We are more than just an island” as one of our tv commercials say 🤣 that references out RAF and military
Tiny? Britain ain’t huge but so what? We are the best bread on earth, that’s what counts
As a child, my parents were erecting our tent on a cliff edge whilst my brother and I ran between the car and tent carrying the equipment - suddenly a Vulcan rose from nowhere - it had flown in beneath the cliff height and with full throttle was increasing altitude to clear the cliff - it felt as though our mini was about to get blasted into the sea. Truly spectacular. Saw one again years later at an air-show - it was a magnificent piece of flying machinery, the pride of British engineering, perhaps only bettered by Concorde??
You missed hearing (because you talked over the commentary) that the Vulcan served as Britain's airborne nuclear deterrent from 1956 until it was retired in 1984.
Had the privilege growing up of not only watching but hearing the Vulcan at Leuchars Air Base up the road from me over the years. So beautiful in looks and manoeuvrability accompanied by the howl and roar. Wow.
The actual ceiling of the Vulcan bomber is actually 62,000 feet
In more recent years the Swedes have managed to do something similar when one of their diesel electric subs sank the USS Ronald Reagan in an exercise. However, this time the US Navy decided to use US Tax dollars to borrow one of the subs to work out how the Swedes managed to sneak in, sink an aircraft carrier and sneak back out.
The Swedes developed the Stirling Engine as it is silent running, minimal parts and can move quick enough when heated. That is how they managed to perform that task and get out without being heard or seen. It was so slow moving radar can not pick it up as it is near stationary in the water.
Australian Collins class diesel submarines have also done it they are enlarged versions of Swedish Vastergotland class fitted with a fast tracked version of the AN/BYG-1 combat system developed for the Virginia class at the time (now updated) with the same Mark 48 torpedoes as the Virginia's
@@nathanb8721 Is that the documentary where they play "Land of Down Under" when they get the US sub hunting them? Soo Aussie heh.
@@chewyfoks1840 That was a destroyer in that video the USS O'Kane
Mark Felton tells it as it was in a no nonsense unbiased report. BRILLIANT 😎👍👍
I am 64 now but when I was about 9 My farther was in the RAF and where we lived there were 4 Vulcans parked abour 200 meters away from our back yard always on stand by
A really good video you should see is "What does it take to earn Britain's Medal of Honour". It's a mini-documentary about the Victoria Cross, the UK's highest military award and about some of the men who have been awarded it.
The Vulcan is a big plane, it could out manouver to evade Soviet interceptor jets at high altitude. Imagine a strategic nuclear bomber performing like a jet fighter.
Excellent review once again matey. The Vulcan was indeed an absolute beauty. Famous for the Vulcan howl. Check it out, it's in RUclips. It's the most spine tingling sound ever. Take care Buddy
The Vulcan was designed to penetrate the Soviet AA system. An excellent allied long range nuclear bomber to test the US defenses. They also didn't want the Soviets to know. Mind you the KGB probably found out fairy quickly.
a vulcan is based at York Air museum. I was there with my dad in the 90s with our classic truck. They was a old rally on. They started up the vulcan I shit my self what a scary sound they make
The Avro Vulcan was one of 3 strategic strike bombers in that era. The Handley Page Victor was a mean looking bomber that broke the sound barrier.
Me and my best mate had our pictures taken for the local paper at an airshow back in the day.
We were both in the ATC and they wanted two cadets with their fingers in their ears for the article.
The Vulcans were incredibly loud - arguably one of, if not the loudest jet at the time.
the Vulcan also holds the world record for the longest bombing raid in history, it flew 8000 miles during the falklands war to bomb Port Stanley Airport, also of note the vulcan wax designed by the same man who designed the Lancaster bomber in WW2
Held, it was beaten by a B2. USA to Afghanistan, 44 hours. Then land on Diego Garcia, change crews and 30 hours back.
Of course the flight would have been easier, more room,less air defence,onboard toilet, knowing where your tankers are etc.
@@paulqueripel3493 but the Vulcan did it non stop there and back
a little bit of history you might find interesting about the Avro Vulcan is the raid on Port Stanley airport during the Falklands war in 1982
Two Mark Felton videos worth watching -
Vulcan - "Black Buck"- Falklands.
WWII Atomic Bomb - RAF Avro Lancaster was nearly used to drop the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I saw the Vulcan bombers in air shows back in the 1980's... The most wonderful and horrifying sounds you'll ever hear, truly awe-inspiring aircraft of all time.
The Soviet Union Complained about the Vulcan Howl calling it Psychological Warfare!
The vulcan is held with similar regard in our UK hearts as Concorde, the Lancaster and Spitfire I would say.
Here is another good mark Felton video that also put a UK cold War plane against the US, the English Electric Lightning interceptor vs U2. Well worth a watch ruclips.net/video/8DdUwIhI-ZA/видео.html
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If your ever over in the UK. Two of the best air museums to visit are Duxford and RAF cosford. Another good museum is bovington for tanks and in London HMS Belfast is a must to visit.
Another good video and reaction. Another American RUclipsr's reaction to "When Britain nuked America twice" was to say "thank god the US is allies with the UK". Again another example of UK punching above its weight.
Another example of bad grammar.
@@whitehorses460 - Grammar Nazi..
When I was a kid I saw the Vulcan for the first time at an airshow. The noise from the engines was so loud it set off all the car alarms in the car park. That was my introduction to the most awesome sounding plane ever!
Notice how the numbers change from sky shield one to two in the first it was 360 American planes against 310 the second time it was 1800 American planes plus 250 missile silo sights against only about 175 and yet again the USA answer is to throw numbers at it and it still didn't work LMAO numbers are not always the answer
Well, historically speaking, they've usually lacked the other option (intelligence and experience), but I will say their military are much better these days (in no small part due to working so closely with us for the last 20 years)
Here you go King Boomer. Got to love the howl. ruclips.net/video/H_ARSE8jEHQ/видео.html
To be fair, the UK military have upmost respect for our close friends in the US military. It would be very Un-British to boast or show off. They would’ve just got on with the exercise.
The Vulcan was a beautiful aircraft. It’s actually part of the V-bomber project in the Cold War where the UK government tendered 3 British aircraft manufacturers to each produce heavy nuclear bombers. All three types were built; the Vulcan, the Valiant and the Victor. The Victor is such a scary looking airplane, like a UFO. You might be interested to read about the V-bombers, especially during the Falkland war in 1982. You could easily do a great video about that. It’ll all be on Google.
Next time you’re in the UK I’ll take you to the Imperial Museum at Duxford (it was a RAF/USAF base in WW2).They have a Vulcan, Concorde, B52 and loads of others. It’s actually got a huge dedicated American exhibition hanger where the B52 lives. There’s a memorial glass wall with every single name of American airman who were lost. It’s chilling to see the thousands of names.
Vulcan crews for this type of thing.were a fairly exclusive little club
Used to go to air shows before they retired them. engines almost the same as what was used in Concorde, low fly by, pull up and full afterburners. Amazing aircraft
The Vulcan is much less popular in Argentina, but very popular in Falklands.
Great review of this lesson sir. The Vulcan was an aerial anomaly. She was jaw dropping. Beautiful in every aspect of flight. More important is the repeated pregnability of an impregnable nation. Salute sir. Love your videos.
On one of its last flights, the Vulcan flew over the town where I live as we helped make the engines here. Wow, the howl was amazing. Had gone up a hill for a better view, but had to run home to check my windows were still intact!!
Everybody in the UK weapons industry knew about this.
Have a look at the Falcon raid on the Falkland Islands in 1982 after Argentina invaded the islands. The British sent a task force to recapture them
More recently the British SAS outwitted the US Navy Seals in a training exercise. This goes to show we may be a small island but we have a well trained military. 🇬🇧
Good Morning, and in case I don't see you later, Good Afternoon, Good Evening, and Good Night! (as Trueman once energetically said!)
Learnt a lot from this, not to mention your interjections and the comments below! Fantastic. Thanks (all!)
It was kept secret at the time because if the Soviet union had realised it could be done then they would have come for real
Nah don't put your people down
You guys have helped us many times,
That's why we Brits and Americans have the special relationship
My brother in law who was in the RAF told me about the exercise in the mid 60's but it wasn't common knowledge. The Vulcan was a fantastic aircraft way before its time, I've been under one when it flew vertically up, the heat and noise from the jet engine was something to be experienced.
1955 Farnborough Airshow , test pilot Roly Falk Barrel rolled the Vulcan. Try doing that in a B52!!
None flying today unfortunately. Had the privilege to see one a few years ago. I say see, but you feel a Vulcan coming. Your chest reverberates. Wonderful aircraft.
Great post, keep up the good work.
You've never heard about the Vulcan?
Fascinating.....
Seeing a Vulcan slowly rolling around the sky with her Olympus engines howling like a banshee is an eerie, slightly unnerving sight.
It's just that the UK 🇬🇧 is in a different league. Lucky we're friends with the USA 🇺🇸.
Mark Felton's stuff is always good.
The Pinetree Line was a series of radar stations located across the northern United States and southern Canada at about the 50th parallel north, along with a number of other stations located on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts.
The two things that stand out fr me is 1) It was not even a surprise, the Americans new that they were coming & 2) The Vulcan Airman who decided to land their aircraft at the very airfield that the defenders had came from. I would love to have seen the faces on the US Airman knowing that the aircraft that just landed could (potentially) have destroyed New York City... priceless
When you find your ally punches well above their weight and can keep their mouths shut about it.
And you find your defences need updating.
The vulcan is a beast! The vulcan's last mission in the 80s is well worth looking into when they bombed the Falklands to reclaim it from the Argentinians.
I too had the pleasure of seeing the Vulcan in action at various airshows here in the UK including its very last flight. The Vulcan howl was awesome and had to heard to be believed. I would recommend watching a film on the Vulcan and there is another one on the 3 "V Bombers" you should watch too.
Cool video, I had watched it before. It’s amazing what you don’t know sometimes Have a good one pal 😉👍
Never, ever forget mate. 85% of us Brits love you Americans with all our hearts. Forget the loony left, they just shout loudest? 🙂👍🍻🇬🇧🇺🇲
3 Vulcans made a 16,000 mile round trip the bomb the Argentinian base in the Falkland war in 1982. The first time I saw a Vulcan close up was at an airshow at Barton, Manchester. It flew low and pulled away making them most frightening sound I ever heard. I sounded like a pack of wolves howling at night.
The vulcan was used in 1982 Falklands war , Watch Black buck , most daring raid .... its shows how my little country can punch well above its weight
mark felton great channel if you wanna learn bout history very well produced you go down that rabbit hole you're stuck on it for days on end binge-watching his stuff
Saw the last flying Vulcan on it's very last flight. It circled Hastings Town East Sussex a couple of times, then flew low just up the coast at Fairlight cliffs, As it flew past we gave a wave (so low, we could see the pilot) and he gave the plane a waggle as it went past.
PS..........Check out the Vid about how a Vulcan Bomber flew to the Falklands and bombed the runway at Port Stanley. That stopped the Argies from using the airfield .......and the rest as they say is History!
Good afternoon / evening, from the glorious & early spring warm weather of England.
The Royal Air Force.
The oldest Air Force in the world.
Per Ardua Ad Astra.
I served in the RAF 1980 to 1997.
First posting was RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire.
The aircraft based there were Vulcans.
Happy days.
If you like History then I'd highly recommend The Greatest Raid on St Nazaire during WW2. The video is about 1 hour long, so you may need to split it if you were to cover it. The story is not well known, but is phenominal and most likely one of the key turning pionts in the fight in Europe during the war. Link to video: ruclips.net/video/SCMCr2Kh1wI/видео.html
The Vulcan has a haunting howl at certain angles it would be a new underwear moment just before you'd see a second sun
They are long ones, but you would not regret checking out Jeremy Clarkson's documentaries 'What it takes to win the British medal of honour (Victoria cross)' and 'The Greatest Raid of All Time'. Jeremy Clarkson has a reputation for acting the fool but his history stuff is fantastic, amazing, serious and engaging.
Also; the Victoria Cross video has a twist at the end that will leave you open-mouthed.