I have those black edition. Love them. Using them for low end mixing and reference,and i mix the rest on my Yamaha HS 50s monitors cause those are messing low end . Works every time. Sounds great everywhere.. Without Sonar or any equalization..
Had this exact same problem. Been using the M50x for years and music I made sounded great when listening on those headphones, but in the car or other speakers it sounded shit. Just ordered the 990 Pro and also a pair of monitor speakers.
I had both and they sound virtually identical to my ears. But when it comes to mixing with headphones, knowing the tendencies of whatever you use for monitoring is the whole game. You don’t have to have a perfectly flat response, but you do have to be able to compensate
Depends on what you mix to. Ive never heard something as unbiased as my sennheiser 560s but certain music is supposed to be played on higher bass devised which they dont lack but the tracks just sounds badly because they are so analytical.
Neither are necessarily “better.” It really just depends on your use-case. So for mixing and mastering, open-back headphones will give you more of a “natural” sound that will ultimately help you get more accurate mixes.
¡Ey! De hecho, me encantaría probarlos, así que gracias por hacérmelo saber. Sin embargo, tendré que investigar un poco más para ver en qué se diferencian de los originales.
let's say I have the budget for only one pair of headphones and I want to start doing everything on one pair as a beginner..... what model should I go for?
m30x's. the reason the music sounded different in the car is because the sound is able to freely flow out in the air. whereas when she was mixing and liking what she was producing THROUGH THE HEADPHONES, it sounded similar across other closed headphones/earbuds.
@aryankumar87771 quality is relatively the same minus the lower 79$ price tag. 50x does supposedly have deeper bass if that's what you like(although most closed-backs have better bass by design because sound waves bounce back when enclosed). I have the m30x's myself. What music do you like? Do you also like movies and video games through headphones too? What's your estimated budget?
I wouldn’t say that one is better, just applied differently. For instance, if you don’t have any sound restrictions, I’d say mix using speakers (the HS5’s). But if you have noise limitations, or are traveling, the DT 990’s are an amazing alternative. I hope this helps ✨
@@tokyoextra0rdinairei buy it these days it s amazing good quality But when mixing i like mixing with m'y dt990 and check the final result with my hs5
@@tokyoextra0rdinairebest all around is dt770 80 ohm I have mastered and mix with them combine with waves studio space emulation mimic studio large rooms and can use it for phones cause low impedance and no one can hear what you doing mad comfortable and cheaper where low level people like us with out high incomes can afford if your hobbist meaning not making full-time income off music
dont know how you folks keeps hyping all these headphones. tgis 990pro 250ohms especially lacks bass. why do i have to go pay for some apps like sonarworks to use them. like why. even had to buy an iD14 as people keeps saying it woukd bring out the bass
I can’t speak for anyone else, but it’s definitely not hype for me. In some cases, gear doesn’t matter, and in others, it literally hinders or obstructs your workflow. And that was genuinely the case for me. So I made this video simply to share with others a potential solution for a common mixing problem. When mixing, you actually want your listening source to be as true to sound as possible. So if it’s lacking bass or treble, that may be a sign that something needs to be corrected in your mix - so adding in a plug-in that falsely adds bass or treble will put you back in the same position, resulting in an inaccurate mix. I hope this helps ✨
@@tokyoextra0rdinaire well from others who’ve used it. They confirmed that I was right about it missing the 100hz region downwards. What have you been using to Mix those regions. I do Afrobeats mostly and so I must not joke with the bass. So I’d like to know if you have a special trick or tips that I can always use. I’d appreciate that a lot
@@tokyoextra0rdinaire You have been making a lot of great points throughout this comment section but I have to respectfully disagree with your very last point. Although it is true that you want your monitoring method to be as accurate and neutral as possible, the key part here is “as possible.” Creating headphones with a truly absolutely flat frequency response is near impossible. Manufacturers can get close, but every headphone will impart its own bias to some degree. It is not an uncommon practice for seasoned producers with well developed ears to create an extra, separate ‘master’ track with eq specifically for listening to the mix through their headphones. If you have an amazing pair of headphones (great soundstage, imaging, etc) but they have a bit of an an aggressive +2 db mid-high range curve then it might behoove you to counteract that with eq or you run the risk of trusting that your mid-high range is balanced well within the mix, but when you listen elsewhere it’s being buried because it was just the headphones exaggerating those frequencies. TL;DR: using the frequency curve chart of your particular headphones to dial in your headphones with eq (whether with sonarworks or otherwise) can be a great way to get as close as possible to a flat response since no headphones are truly neutral. I’m obviously not talking about anything extreme here. There are also those who choose to forego this in favor really learning a set of headphones or speakers through spending a lot of time with them and cross referencing with other listening sources and just being mentally cognizant of their behavior while mixing with them. Anyway, I hope this came across well. Nice vid!
If there's something I've noticed it's that peoples car soundsystems vary a LOT. So saying it sounds good in the car doesn't really mean much. In her car maybe.@@thumbthumb5998
I was having the same problem yesterday!! Sounded great in the headphones but phone not so great. Excited to get myself a pair too ❤
Awesome! I hope they work out for you! 🫶🏽✨
I have those black edition. Love them. Using them for low end mixing and reference,and i mix the rest on my Yamaha HS 50s monitors cause those are messing low end . Works every time. Sounds great everywhere.. Without Sonar or any equalization..
Bright and harsh ones
Had this exact same problem. Been using the M50x for years and music I made sounded great when listening on those headphones, but in the car or other speakers it sounded shit. Just ordered the 990 Pro and also a pair of monitor speakers.
Nice! Congrats on your new gear; praying it adds increased production value for you! ✨
I literally just ordered these for the exact same reason. My mix sound muddy in the car but clear in the house..
M50x has more low end (boosted) so mixing on them might not be a good move. M40x are Way better in terms of Over-all sound quality and they are flat
That’s a lie, the m40x suck also.. Your mix sounds good while wearing them but doesn’t translate well to other sound sources..
I had both and they sound virtually identical to my ears. But when it comes to mixing with headphones, knowing the tendencies of whatever you use for monitoring is the whole game. You don’t have to have a perfectly flat response, but you do have to be able to compensate
SAME PROBLEM! do u have some more headphones which are flat and good? or are the 990 the only ones u tested ?
The 990’s are the only other headphones I’ve tried unfortunately :( I’ve seen a few recommendations in the comments though that may be worth a look!
Depends on what you mix to. Ive never heard something as unbiased as my sennheiser 560s but certain music is supposed to be played on higher bass devised which they dont lack but the tracks just sounds badly because they are so analytical.
Totally agree with this ✨🤝✨
So you’re saying closed back or open back is better?
Neither are necessarily “better.” It really just depends on your use-case. So for mixing and mastering, open-back headphones will give you more of a “natural” sound that will ultimately help you get more accurate mixes.
DT900 Pro X Estudio Que piensas acerca estos audifonos? esta es una nueva edicion añadiendole el X pero no sé si es peor que el 990
¡Ey! De hecho, me encantaría probarlos, así que gracias por hacérmelo saber. Sin embargo, tendré que investigar un poco más para ver en qué se diferencian de los originales.
Imma tell yall the vsx is the headphones i promise that system will change your mixes
LOL ok shill
let's say I have the budget for only one pair of headphones and I want to start doing everything on one pair as a beginner..... what model should I go for?
m30x's. the reason the music sounded different in the car is because the sound is able to freely flow out in the air. whereas when she was mixing and liking what she was producing THROUGH THE HEADPHONES, it sounded similar across other closed headphones/earbuds.
@@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai i see, why not m50's or m40's then ?
@aryankumar87771 quality is relatively the same minus the lower 79$ price tag. 50x does supposedly have deeper bass if that's what you like(although most closed-backs have better bass by design because sound waves bounce back when enclosed). I have the m30x's myself.
What music do you like? Do you also like movies and video games through headphones too? What's your estimated budget?
@@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai that's a lot of good info, thanks m8...i like to produce edm music and I have a budget of around $500 max i can spend
Sony mdr 7506
I have the dt770 80ohm plugged into apple Mac Studio ultra ...they are not loud but decent ..what should I add or not add to mix sound with these ?
plugged directly into the Mac or using a DAC?
its ok now I got it plugged into a dlz Mackie @@rossco7214
Which is more good mixing in dt990 or with hs5 and tell me the reason
Thanks
I wouldn’t say that one is better, just applied differently.
For instance, if you don’t have any sound restrictions, I’d say mix using speakers (the HS5’s).
But if you have noise limitations, or are traveling, the DT 990’s are an amazing alternative. I hope this helps ✨
@@tokyoextra0rdinaire the dt990 is open back that have not noise cancellation
@@elkingofficielchannel5265 correct
@@tokyoextra0rdinairei buy it these days it s amazing good quality
But when mixing i like mixing with m'y dt990 and check the final result with my hs5
Only problem with openback is thar you cant record on them
This is true. I still use my audio technica’s to record
@@tokyoextra0rdinairebest all around is dt770 80 ohm I have mastered and mix with them combine with waves studio space emulation mimic studio large rooms and can use it for phones cause low impedance and no one can hear what you doing mad comfortable and cheaper where low level people like us with out high incomes can afford if your hobbist meaning not making full-time income off music
We need to stop testing music in the car
I hope you’re telling the truth because you just convinced me to buy these today.. I can’t get a clean mix with my audio technicas for shii 😅
😆😂 I can’t make any promises lol, but they’ve been a game-changer for me. Let me know how they work out for you!
@@tokyoextra0rdinaire ima fa sho let you know, gonna try them out in a few.
I swear on everything I love I already hear a big improvement.. Shii is definitely night and day, thanks for this video.💯
@@GhostOfficial-0187 🙌🏽 that’s super dope to hear! You’re most welcome! ✨
dont know how you folks keeps hyping all these headphones. tgis 990pro 250ohms especially lacks bass. why do i have to go pay for some apps like sonarworks to use them. like why. even had to buy an iD14 as people keeps saying it woukd bring out the bass
I can’t speak for anyone else, but it’s definitely not hype for me. In some cases, gear doesn’t matter, and in others, it literally hinders or obstructs your workflow. And that was genuinely the case for me.
So I made this video simply to share with others a potential solution for a common mixing problem. When mixing, you actually want your listening source to be as true to sound as possible. So if it’s lacking bass or treble, that may be a sign that something needs to be corrected in your mix - so adding in a plug-in that falsely adds bass or treble will put you back in the same position, resulting in an inaccurate mix. I hope this helps ✨
@@tokyoextra0rdinaire well from others who’ve used it. They confirmed that I was right about it missing the 100hz region downwards. What have you been using to Mix those regions. I do Afrobeats mostly and so I must not joke with the bass. So I’d like to know if you have a special trick or tips that I can always use. I’d appreciate that a lot
@@tokyoextra0rdinaire You have been making a lot of great points throughout this comment section but I have to respectfully disagree with your very last point. Although it is true that you want your monitoring method to be as accurate and neutral as possible, the key part here is “as possible.” Creating headphones with a truly absolutely flat frequency response is near impossible. Manufacturers can get close, but every headphone will impart its own bias to some degree. It is not an uncommon practice for seasoned producers with well developed ears to create an extra, separate ‘master’ track with eq specifically for listening to the mix through their headphones. If you have an amazing pair of headphones (great soundstage, imaging, etc) but they have a bit of an an aggressive +2 db mid-high range curve then it might behoove you to counteract that with eq or you run the risk of trusting that your mid-high range is balanced well within the mix, but when you listen elsewhere it’s being buried because it was just the headphones exaggerating those frequencies. TL;DR: using the frequency curve chart of your particular headphones to dial in your headphones with eq (whether with sonarworks or otherwise) can be a great way to get as close as possible to a flat response since no headphones are truly neutral. I’m obviously not talking about anything extreme here. There are also those who choose to forego this in favor really learning a set of headphones or speakers through spending a lot of time with them and cross referencing with other listening sources and just being mentally cognizant of their behavior while mixing with them. Anyway, I hope this came across well. Nice vid!
In the car? That's the most sub-optimal place to listen to music lol!
But where most consumers listen to music.
If there's something I've noticed it's that peoples car soundsystems vary a LOT. So saying it sounds good in the car doesn't really mean much. In her car maybe.@@thumbthumb5998
The car is not only the ultimate test to see if your track is mixed there are specific plugins for DAWs to simulate a car because it’s so reliable.
Nice bait. I suddenly understand why so many artists music sound like crap. @@ErickMoye-yp6nd
You have no clue what you're talking about buddy! 😊
do u have a brain tumor usually when the eyes do different stuff its cause of brain tumor
Wtf is wrong with you?
u weird af