Hey Caleb, I noticed you haven't explored the Apple TV+ app for the theater experience. This is the best movie experience on Apple Vision Pro. Simply start a movie in the Apple TV+ app and locate the environment icon ⛰ at the top left corner. Select it, and you'll find three options: your current environment in light or dark, and a Cinema option. The first two options will expand your screen beyond what you could manually achieve and immerse it in the environment, giving you a sense of grandeur. As for the cinema environment, you can select your preferred seating position-front row, middle row, back row, floor, or balcony. To do so, just navigate to the media player bar. Give it a try for an enhanced movie-watching experience!
I agree! Very insightful and interesting point of view with a great balance of technical information and personal experience. Keep up the good work Caleb!
I doubt it could beat a Sony QD-OLED tv but that things cost like $4,000… so far Apple hasn’t sold me because I much rather spend that money on a high end tv or Alienware laptop . For that money I could get the laptop, QDOLED monitor and mouse and keyboard . Also a few basic questions most reviewers aren’t asking 1. Who do they expect to buy this ? 2. Who do they expect to pay the price ? 3. Is this a pro or customer market ? Because I get the feeling that this is a workstation device that will do with a high end MacBook Pro that for 3d modeling or something similar.
@@PatrickAdia Good points, thank you. One reviewer took his AVP into a movie theater. From a middle row position, the AVP large screen image more than covered the theater screen, which he showed by switching to pass through twice. Caleb didn't perceive it as big, but he is an experienced AV professional. He couldn't feel the illusion, even though most would. But in Cinema option, the basic illusion is enhanced by the familiar setting in photo-realist... 3d. I bet Caleb would immerse into the illusion then. Who would want a cinema size screen? People who have projectors or want 100+ inch tvs, for sure. Maybe anyone who experienced it too.
@@neubauerjoseph You hit the nail on the head. I ask myself what woudl I do with it, I alread have my iPhone, home theather, a MacBook pro and a playstation so what is the vision pro going to do that I cannot already do.
Hey Caleb, I noticed you haven't explored the Apple TV+ app for the theater experience. This is the best movie experience on Apple Vision Pro. Simply start a movie in the Apple TV+ app and locate the environment icon ⛰ at the top left corner. Select it, and you'll find three options: your current environment in light or dark, and a Cinema option. The first two options will expand your screen beyond what you could manually achieve and immerse it in the environment, giving you a sense of grandeur. As for the cinema environment, you can select your preferred seating position-front row, middle row, back row, floor, or balcony. To do so, just navigate to the media player bar. Give it a try for an enhanced movie-watching experience!
When I first got my AVP I thought I’d be watching movies in the nature environments. I’ve watched a few in there but my go-to is the Cinema environment now. It’s so convincing and immersive, I keep expecting to see an emergency exit when I look around.
@@acslater017 Agreed! It is 100% the best movie experience. I'm hoping Apple will make it standard for any video content like the media bar. Have you tried the environment cinema through the Apple TV+ app where Apple set a gigantic screen automatically in the middle of the environment? It's my close second.
@@PatrickAdia Yea I’m such a nerd I pick my environment to match the movie. Shogun = Mt Hood; Dune = White Sands 🤓. Can’t wait for the new beach and lake environments to come out. And yes, Apple should open up the environments to all videos, I’d also love to watch Disney+ or HBO in the Cinema.
@@acslater017 haha! Love it! I’m actually considering holding out on some Disney and Max movies until we get the cinema environment (or a better one on their respective apps).
When you talk about the screen feeling like it was too close, despite the space looking 3D, you're describing 'Vergence-Accommodation Conflict'. The focus point int he headset is fixed, despite the convergance giving the image 3d structure. In real life, focus and convergance are tied together. If VR, they're forcibly seperated, which accounts for a LOT of people's discomfort in them. and makes the content feel like it's at a fixed distance, despite looking 3D. I've seen a lot of VR reviewers talk about this issue but they put a name to it. I wish reviewers would talk about the need for verifocal lenses (lenses which allow focus and convergence to match) more so consumers could put a name to the phennomenon they experiance, so headset makers cna make it more of a priority. This one thing still puts a lot of people off playing VR fromt he strain and nausia.
This is interesting. I haven't noticed this at all, but I really don't use the AVP for anything other than a screen like a TV or monitor. I have had all the Quests and you do have to remind yourself you're in a game and you're not supposed to be moving, which I think helps your mind adjust. I've felt the nausea previously but now I don't really get it at all. One thing that helped me adjust was to just stop if you get nauseous, don't fight through it.
The theater experience is better than what Caleb described. I don't think he has used it in the Apple TV+ app where the best movie watching experience is.
If your considering spending 3500 for a headset to only watch movies your doing something wrong in life , the TV you could get for that price makes it blatantly clear this headset is a rip off
@@weplayvrgames If you watched the video you'll see that he says the video quality is comparable, if not better in some ways to to the TVs you are talking about, plus, as he mentioned, 3D is as good as it gets, and there are reasons, even if you can't think of any, why a person would want home theater quality video and sound, without wanting others to hear it, or without the ability to have a 100 inch screen. I'm not going to get one, but the future isn't always clear and there may come a day where I don't have the space for a full theater and these might be not only better, but also cost comparible. So, not for me, but also not a rip off to some people
and a lot of people now are doing "van life" or sharing a house with a ton of people because living has gotten so expensive. While it is expensive, if you really want a great movie experience with extremely limited space, this could be one of the very best options, and it is truly much cheaper than building a real home theater...which would be a giant waste if only one person wants that experience.
"Small screen close to my face", it's due to focal length. It pretends to have a large screen far away, but when your eyes try to focus far away, it doesn't quite work.
Pretty sure Caleb’s response is due to his using a device that wasn’t calibrated to his own eyes. So far I have only had the Apple Store demo but the calibration was spot on and the cinema screen legitimately looked like it was a way away, not anywhere near my face.
Hey man, just food for thought, but you don't have to insult others to compliment Caleb. I doubt he would even like that, not trying to be mean since you were trying to be nice but idk thought I'd say :)
Spot on review. I watched Mad Max Fury Road on the Vision Pro this week and aside from technical glitches brought on from laying in bed, it was an amazing experience. The 3D is top notch and I don't even have the prescription inserts yet (bought in in-store on Monday, inserts are out for delivery today which is Thursday). It's a really neat experience and while Meta has been building these headsets for a while, I think Apple figured out what problem it's trying to solve and they are doing a great job at solving it.
Gotta say, I almost rolled my eyes at the intro before talking about TrueCut motion, but you were so right to emphasize it. Jutter and stutter are my personal biggest issues left with my home theater experience. The possibility of that not being present makes my mouth (or eyes?) water.
I have one. Watching this review right now with it. I love having a movie theater sized screen that I can take with me everywhere I go. When was the last time you had a movie theater with you on an airplane? Or on the train? Or in your hotel room? If you have a theater room, then no, this won't replace that because there is a slight goggles effect. But everywhere else you go, my goodness it's nice to have.
This is the video that have been waiting for. To finally see a indepth comparison between a home theater and AVP and even talk about truecut motion which I've never heard about before. This is the first video I've seen in a while that actually has something new to say about AVP and doesn't even have a click bait title either. Bravo sir🎉🎉🎉
Nailed it. I have an A95K (not L) and find myself reaching for the AVP when I’m going to watch a movie alone. It’s an incredible device (and it’s a good comparison, since my TV and the AVP cost a near identical amount.) AirPods Pro sound better with this device than they have any right to, but I have been meaning to experiment with sending audio to my ATMOS home theater, not sure if I’ll be able to get it to work. This is a fantastic device for watching movies. Avatar in D+ is indescribable. Looks better than I remember in the theater. This device has weaknesses, and isn’t very good for gaming… but I am so happy I own it. I was skeptical at the price, it now that I’ve owned it for a month I would pay $5k instead of $3500. It’s that good.
You can send audio to Vision Pro through Bluetooth to speakers/surround soundsystem, but it's hidden. On Vision Pro go to Settings > Accessibility > Hearing Devices and pair your speaker or speaker system there. Reportedly works fairly well but it will warn you that the implementation is not 'optimized for Vision Pro'.
In a word, EXCELLENT. I am one of your oldest fans at 81. This year I'm waiting for Black Friday to occur so that I can get the A95L and the quad/sub set up. We are social people, we like to have friends/family in for get togethers where we can share an experience together. But at my age you are more alone then in a social mode. To me this is peachy so I am more open to this Apple product then most. But it has to be a excellent combination of video and audio - and from your observations it seems that audio is not quite there yet -and tweaks to video needs some refinements. Still, I am outrageously close to leaping in on this idea and your comments are well received here. Keep on doing what you do !!!
11:52 Perhaps you’re not using the special movie mode? When you’re just in the immersive environment watching a video, it maxes out at an apparent size of about 10 feet wide, 10 feet away from you. The real immersion and scale comes when you click on the center of the video window (iTunes or AppleTV+) then click the environments that appear in the top left corner. If you’re in Mt Hood, you get options for Mt Hood Light, Mt Hood Dark, and Cinema. Those are absolutely convincing to me, my favorite is Cinema. There are 6 different positions you can view in the Cinema but if you’re in the Front Row watching I’d say it looks about 15 feet tall and 30 feet wide. It’s absolutely convincing to me, I keep looking for the emergency exit sign.
Yeah seems like he just tried the Disney+ app which makes the screen big but not like the IMAX app or the cinema mode on Apple TV+. Would like him to trie that and update his thoughts about it. Caleb is kind of old lol so we should give him time to get the hang this new tech. Hopefully he continues to test this device while keeping up with normal tv things.
Great video. One thing though....I don't know if you decided to omit or didn't have a chance to see it. Apple TV + has currently 3 TV shows (1 episode each so far) with immersive experiences (like this woman walking on the line in Norway) and some "animal planet" kind of things. I liked my AVP from the beginning.... but after watching these , made specially with some next level equipment by Apple.....that is the future of television ..and I want it NOW !!! Mind blowing.
Hello. You mentioned the brightness, the Vision Pro uses "Pancake" optics, these in themselves absorb a lot of light on their own, so the OLED panels in the headset are considerably brighter than the light making it to your eyes. Also, "Spatial Audio", another great way of experiencing this is a game on SteamVR called "Half Life Alyx", this is probably the best game ever made for VR, the audio is insane, in a darkened area in the game, you can hear little sounds (left say to the right rear of you) and you will turn around just to find out there is nothing there, it adds so much to the immersion and the experience. Great review of the Vision Pro by the way, I'm Canadian, it's not available here yet, but once it is, it'll be over $4700.00 Canadian before taxes, so this is one item that is forbiddingly expensive, I won't be getting this since I like keeping my body parts right where they are (none for sale)! LOL
I used to use a projector a lot for movie's and computer games that was great. VR headsets do the same thing very well, but the difference is unless you are in a R chat or horizons or something, VR tends to be for one person, but the projector is a shared experience.
u can calibrate the ipd when u unlock it tho ...5 times pressing the crown I think ...about getting sick after 10 min idk there might have been another issue maybe with the software version or who knows what else the lidar reflecting from a mirror .....with a static experience there shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority of people
People would still want a home theater for multi viewer experience, however, using the Vision Pro for 3D movies like James Cameron’s Avatar is what makes the experience truly shine.
Is TrueCut motion what James Cameron used for Avatar The Way of Water? I had very mixed feelings about it because for that film it was pretty much just a binary switch between 24fps and 48fps, and the constant switch on a shot-by-shot basis was distracting. I'd rather have the entire film 24fps or 48fps and not switch back and forth. I saw the film in IMAX twice and Dolby Cinema once and my feelings were the same about the HFR across formats.
"it enables you to exuberantly enjoy a deeper connection to something that you love when you are already isolated or alone" that sounds so depressing 😂
I know the vision pro is so expensive at this point that there is little focus on multiple people using it in the same room -- does it have tools/features for making it easy for multiple people in the same physical room to watch the same movie synched up in their vision pros to enjoy more of a collaborative experience?
This device has singlehandedly resurrected my love of movies. I have an above-average home theater complete with Atmos, over $12k invested, and it never gets used because it's such a process to use it. With the AVP I can sit on a plane and get superior visual quality and while audio isn't near as good as at home, convenience makes it worth it.
@12:00 sounds like user error. The scale is off the charts. Try playing a video in the photos app and placing the window way back in your room. Perhaps your room is too small? It sometimes feels like the walls of the room limit the screen size.
Public Service Announcement: You can send audio from Vision Pro through Bluetooth to speakers, but it's hidden. Go to Settings > Accessibility > Hearing Devices and pair your speaker or speaker system there. Reportedly works fairly well but it will warn you that the implementation is not 'optimized for Vision Pro'. I have the heralded Samsung Q990C Dolby atmos surround system. It upmixes everything including Bluetooth to near atmos quality. If/ when I get the Vision Pro I'll absolutely be connecting it to this when watching movies. Theater sized screen AND theater style sound!
Great Video - Look forward to learning more about TrueCut. Questions I have is who else is in the ecosystem? Disney is but is Apple? What TV vendors? Will it be like Dolby "inside"? Lightstorm and Dreamworks are involved. I know they have been talking about it for a while but it sounds like it's finally happening. The TV industry needs another catalyst to get everyone to upgrade. Looks like they finally found one. Fantastic overview of the AVP!
thank you. finally someone not trying to convince me that goggles are better than my TV. i have a G3 with the max Sonos setup and also own the Apple Vision Pro. watching Gravity in 3D on the vision pro on a plane was amazing, but at home I am never choosing the vision over the TV
Maybe this can help you. I too also couldn’t get over the idea of it being a small screen that was close to my eyes. But once I realized that’s not true because I can place the screen down in the room and when I walk up to it, it gets bigger so it’s not just a illusion like the Nreal Air or other video glasses.
Why not wait til version 4 or 5? We know version 4 will be better than 3. You do know that there will always be a better version right? As with any piece of technology
The answer is 100% yes. I've had this thing since launch weekend and I've learned how to wear it to fit me well. Whether you want to watch a movie in 3D (Apple TV has a ton and Disney has all the Avatar/Marvel movies and a bunch of animated ones) or even just enjoy streaming on anything it's awesome, insanely immersive with Spatial audio and a theater sized TV. The other thing I constantly use it for is when I use my Mac. Browsing RUclips or watching clips of anything is on a screen the size of your room. It's a delightful experience.
I guess we will need a new certified tv and a new avr for this truecut motion, aww man. I wish it could be like a upgrade, like windows dts and atmos license from the store. Me and a lot of folks already got a 120hz - VRR tv and avr, so why we need to purchase a new device only for a license or certification. Thanks for the video.
I tried the PS5 head set and wanted to love it but couldn't go for more than about 3 mins without feeling nauseous then had that feeling for about an hour and half more .... sent it back ... was wondering if I would have the same problem with this sort of device
I came here looking for an overview of the Vision Pro for watching movies and got *way* more than I expected. Pretty excited about the future for the product. Great video, thanks!
The PSVR2 could actually function as that especially if Sony didn't use the fresnel pentile OLEDs but used their own super micro OLEDs that I believe the Vision Pro uses. I don't know the cost of that but if it was a matter of $100, it should have been incorporated. Also Sony has some really good headphones with the Pulse Elite that are planar magnetic - they bought Audeze that made headphones that cost $4,500 so they can deliver sound that's second to none probably at this point. So this could theoretically be done for much less but Sony kinda screwed the pooch with the PSVR2's OLED.
I actually bought Ps5 with the VR2 for the movie experience and I absolutely love it. Particularly when compared to PS4 VR1. I have some minor complaints but honestly the PS5 VR2 already gives me an awesome movie theater experience and sometimes I even forget I’m at home and not sitting in a theater. I really love it as it totally works for me. So , now I’m really curious about VISION PRO for movies and I will buy it when the price comes down , but for now I’m more than happy with the movie experience I get on the PS5 VR2 , at least until I get one of these things.
I didn't read all the comments so I don't know if anyone else brought this up, but needs to be mentioned is that for people who do not have the space for a proper home theater setup, the Apple Vision Pro is a great alternative even if it can't match the real thing in all respects.
Agree, I'd like to have a home theater setup for certain types of movies, but don't want to devote the space to it (we tend to turn spare rooms to exercise spaces).
04:39 I got a Vive in 2017 and experienced the motion sickness effect exactly one time, and from then on it was only intentional because getting my VR Legs was easy enough so I noticed right away what was wrong in the game I was playing. In that case it was simply that the camera was slightly off center when turning L/R with the trackpads so your character doesn't quite move right.
Awesome, thanks for the different take! I like its future potential. I'll wait until it is more cost effective and ubiquitous, but I like what is on the horizon!
I own a Meta Quest 2. You can purchase this older version for under 300 now. I'm still in awe of how good the Video Playback inside the Big Screen app looks. Far better than the PlayStation 1st Gen PSVR. As you know, there is a significant cost difference between the Apple and Quest. Now that you watched movies on the Apple, it would be nice to see you do a quest review. I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't see such a difference in visual quality to justify the Apple cost.
I don’t quite understand what’s the problem with resetting the device and restoring it back after several weeks? Does the setup of Vision Pro take days of adjustment or I missed something?
I have no problems with mine I ordered my prescription lenses popped them in never had any eye fatigue or anything past that. I use it for all my work with my MacBook and keep an eye on the kids watching security cameras over on another window. It has insane potential just needs more apps to come out on it.
this was great!! i mostly see this as a media consumption device so your opinion was much appreciated! also, learned about a new technology (true-cut motion) which is exciting!
You can send audio from Vision Pro through Bluetooth to speakers, but it's hidden. Go to Settings > Accessibility > Hearing Devices and pair your speaker or speaker system there. Reportedly works fairly well but it will warn you that the implementation is not 'optimized for Vision Pro'.
I was hoping for more detail on how the video quality was. Did it look like you were watching 720P content, 1080P content or 4k content on that cinema screen? That's all I really care about. I'm used to my 4k oled now, I don't think I can handle going back to 1080P.
Thank you for this very nice explanation, I got a couple quick questions when you’re using this do you see a black line and a bottom black line so you can tell you’re looking at a screen or does it fully engulfed your vision second question what happened if you need glasses for reading and you use the Vision Pro is it blurry?
Just checking, @Caleb_Denison, you did check out Apple's own "Cinema" environment to check out the full sized 100-ft theater screen, right? That's what everyone is talking about. Your video only showed you looking at the Disney+ environments, and those don't have the same effect, even their "Theater" environment. The Apple version is the one that makes you feel like you're in a theater, and you can change where you are "sitting" -- Middle, front, back, or balcony.
It's easy to share the display of the AVP. Just Airplay it to the local smart tv. Everyone else will get a 4k HDR image with whatever sound system they have, including Dolby Atmos. It isn't antisocial for sharing movies or RUclips videos, etc. Or everyone could listen on AirPods for Dolby Atmos, for late night viewing.
I actually did a demo of this at my local Apple store and was blown away. But I do feel like there is an issue with it really feeling like a huge screen. One thing I think might help (and it may seem weird) but would be to put a thin frame around it. It may even be an option but I think it will make it feel more real than no edge to the screen.
Its portable. Thats going to be the deciding factor for most people if someone is thinking of getting this instead of a traditional home theater setup.
12:05 I definitely did not have that particular problem. You can make the screen look smaller-and-closer, or bigger-and-farther-away. Grab the handle under the screen and push it away. It will keep the same "angular" size (so it takes up the same field-of-view), but, because it's farther away, it will look bigger.
Great video! I had a Vision Pro for a couple weeks and ultimately returned it because the lens glare/flare was just too much for me. Not everyone seems to note this and it makes me wonder if this was a phenomena maybe I'm just very sensitive to, perhaps the individual unit itself was worse than others, or perhaps the particular fit on my face made it more noticeable. This was definitely internal pancake lens reflections and not light bleed. Did you notice this much in your viewing?
I returned mine for the exact same reason. I kept thinking it was external light getting in until I kept experiencing the issue in an entirely dark room. It completely ruined the experience for me and ultimately led to my returning the device.
@@jmg5369 interesting that you had the same experience. It feels like someone is shining a flashlight at the lenses at some off angle. The Meta Quest 3 has a bit of this as well but it’s far less severe for me. The lenses on the Quest 3 are also much larger so I wonder if that or some other property of those lenses helps mitigate that.
I also experience glare in my AVP but it is nowhere near a deal breaker for me personally. The Cinema environment is the best solo movie watching experience I have ever had.
Varies by facial geometry and other factors, and will be the toughest thing for future pancake optics to overcome. A less dark environment helps a lot, but removes a key advantage. I’m fortunate that it doesn’t hit me much, yet I find the Quest 3 almost unusable due to glare - just luck of the draw in terms my face fitting the AVP better. (trying different facial interfaces can help) You do get used to it, but it’s a huge problem (seems to be exacerbated slightly by prescription lenses, too) Source: been working on the engineering side in the VR space since 2012.
This is a really thoughtful review. You were wise to avoid an N+1 review of the speeds and feeds. Plenty of those as you said. This was a truly value-added review.
Really interesting deep dive into the Vision Pro! This video was very well done and Caleb’s commentary is thoughtful and intelligent, as always. I definitely think the Vision Pro will be an additional option in the pantheon of home entertainment offerings, but don’t think it will replace a great TV and sound system for me. For one thing, I don’t know how long I could take that thing on my face and strapped around my head! But I would sure like to try it sometime. Great job! Oh and love that album cover! Every jazz lover really should have an album cover with JAZZ emblazoned on it in turquoise and lavender! Hope the music is as amazing as the cover!!!🤣🥰🥳🔥
You can film things with it on and the person experiences those moments like they're doing it themselves. The Adult Industry is already counting their money.
I've had the AVP for a month and wish to take issue with your comment about the experience of watching cinema. I believe the issue was that you were watching cinema in an outdoor light immersive environment where the features of the environment helped you perceive the screen as small. If I watch a video in the room with my television, I turn immersion off and place the AVP window just in front of the plane of my TV, and expand it. I now have the illusion of a large screen there. The Apple TV, Max, and Disney+ apps all have custom immersive environments that make the screen appear large. Importantly, they also darken the environment when displaying the video, which again allows the window to appear large as you don't have other reference points.
agreed even on my Quest 3 in theater mode or skybox I never felt like I was watching a small screen close to me eyes, it actually feels like I'm sitting down in a theater
I wouldnt know I dont have a AVP, but from this video the guy says there is a dept problem where it looks like he is looking at a Big screen close to his face. I don't have that issue with Quest 3 and skybox app. @@SteelersHomer
I dont know , AVP have HDR and 4k but you can only play apple tv movies and netflex , while the Quest 3 you can play any video you want .@@SteelersHomer
I thought so too until I used the Apple Vision Pro. The theater experience is better than what Caleb described. I don't think he used it in the Apple TV+ app where the best movie watching experience is.
Yeah some people will hate having something wrapped around face others will be fine. Me personally owning the Vision Pro and a Samsung S90c tv would still prefer the Tv because the Vision Pro makes me feel chained and not free. Where I would probably prefer the Vision Pro is if I had to go somewhere besides my room. I guarantee tho that if Apple makes the Vsion pro more affordable less heavy and more comfortable it’s game over for TVs.
Only main reason I’d stick to a nicer tv if anything. Is for my games. While I don’t play it often. I would love for a way other than streaming to play ps5 or Xbox in the device.
I like how you can go to so many new places and experience them visually but I’d prefer to do it in person though. I know most you can’t visit in person like the moon and space but to actually visit a location is TOTALLY different to seeing it on a screen.
I certainly don't want to have to wear a heavy headset for hours while watching a movie. Even with VR gaming, it's a price I pay for the very special kind of entertainment and immersion, but I do have to take off my headset in regular intervals because it just becomes hot, sweaty and uncomfortable at some point. With VR, I have no other choice that wearing the headset if I want to be immersed in the virtual world. But for watching a 2D movie, there is really no need. I will always, ALWAYS much prefer an actual big screen with a surround sound setup over wearing any kind of glasses. As a crutch for someone who can't have a big screen due to any limitations (living-room or family-wise) it's a cool option, but that's about it.
I noticed LOTS of crass people making final judgments on something they haven't even used at all. Try the Vision Pro IN PERSON folks! It's 1000% a whole different experience unlike any other at this point!
Tries to use a Apple Vision Pro with the other users settings.. You can't make this up, there is a guest mode for a reason where it sets up everything for the new user. IPD, Eye tracking and hand tracking.
I would definitely love to try one of these out, and would likely buy one when they have a version out for around $1,000. I think the comment about 3D taking off when 3D video is shot for the Vision Pro is interesting - The two Avatar movies were made for 3D, and shot with 3D cameras, and obviously were wildly popular mainly due to the spectacle, but even then, 3D movie making has not taken off - most “3D” movies are still conversions. I’m guessing it’s a lot more difficult to do, and have it look good, than you (or I) think, and as you should know, there’s no real demand for it for home viewing since I don’t think anyone makes 3D capable TVs anymore. One thing I’d like to see is for Apple to allow this to work with PC VR software, like Steam VR, Open XR, or whatever. They’ve created the most high fidelity VR headset on the market, but they don’t even call it VR, and I haven’t heard of any popular VR games being adapted to the headset (lack of controllers doesn’t help). Without that, my only use case would be watching movies on vacation or something.
Hey everyone! Some of the best, most constructive comments I’ve seen on one of our videos in some time. Thank you! And keep ‘em coming!
Hey Caleb, I noticed you haven't explored the Apple TV+ app for the theater experience. This is the best movie experience on Apple Vision Pro. Simply start a movie in the Apple TV+ app and locate the environment icon ⛰ at the top left corner. Select it, and you'll find three options: your current environment in light or dark, and a Cinema option.
The first two options will expand your screen beyond what you could manually achieve and immerse it in the environment, giving you a sense of grandeur. As for the cinema environment, you can select your preferred seating position-front row, middle row, back row, floor, or balcony. To do so, just navigate to the media player bar.
Give it a try for an enhanced movie-watching experience!
I agree! Very insightful and interesting point of view with a great balance of technical information and personal experience. Keep up the good work Caleb!
I doubt it could beat a Sony QD-OLED tv but that things cost like $4,000… so far Apple hasn’t sold me because I much rather spend that money on a high end tv or Alienware laptop . For that money
I could get the laptop, QDOLED monitor and mouse and keyboard . Also a few basic questions most reviewers aren’t asking 1. Who do they expect to buy this ? 2. Who do they expect to pay the price ? 3. Is this a pro or customer market ? Because I get the feeling that this is a workstation device that will do with a high end MacBook Pro that for 3d modeling or something similar.
@@PatrickAdia Good points, thank you.
One reviewer took his AVP into a movie theater. From a middle row position, the AVP large screen image more than covered the theater screen, which he showed by switching to pass through twice.
Caleb didn't perceive it as big, but he is an experienced AV professional. He couldn't feel the illusion, even though most would. But in Cinema option, the basic illusion is enhanced by the familiar setting in photo-realist... 3d.
I bet Caleb would immerse into the illusion then.
Who would want a cinema size screen? People who have projectors or want 100+ inch tvs, for sure. Maybe anyone who experienced it too.
@@neubauerjoseph You hit the nail on the head. I ask myself what woudl I do with it, I alread have my iPhone, home theather, a MacBook pro and a playstation so what is the vision pro going to do that I cannot already do.
Hey Caleb, I noticed you haven't explored the Apple TV+ app for the theater experience. This is the best movie experience on Apple Vision Pro. Simply start a movie in the Apple TV+ app and locate the environment icon ⛰ at the top left corner. Select it, and you'll find three options: your current environment in light or dark, and a Cinema option.
The first two options will expand your screen beyond what you could manually achieve and immerse it in the environment, giving you a sense of grandeur. As for the cinema environment, you can select your preferred seating position-front row, middle row, back row, floor, or balcony. To do so, just navigate to the media player bar.
Give it a try for an enhanced movie-watching experience!
When I first got my AVP I thought I’d be watching movies in the nature environments. I’ve watched a few in there but my go-to is the Cinema environment now. It’s so convincing and immersive, I keep expecting to see an emergency exit when I look around.
@@acslater017 Agreed! It is 100% the best movie experience. I'm hoping Apple will make it standard for any video content like the media bar. Have you tried the environment cinema through the Apple TV+ app where Apple set a gigantic screen automatically in the middle of the environment? It's my close second.
@@acslater017 The emergency exit gave me a chuckle 😂. That would be a cool way to exit the environment.
@@PatrickAdia Yea I’m such a nerd I pick my environment to match the movie. Shogun = Mt Hood; Dune = White Sands 🤓. Can’t wait for the new beach and lake environments to come out.
And yes, Apple should open up the environments to all videos, I’d also love to watch Disney+ or HBO in the Cinema.
@@acslater017 haha! Love it! I’m actually considering holding out on some Disney and Max movies until we get the cinema environment (or a better one on their respective apps).
When you talk about the screen feeling like it was too close, despite the space looking 3D, you're describing 'Vergence-Accommodation Conflict'.
The focus point int he headset is fixed, despite the convergance giving the image 3d structure. In real life, focus and convergance are tied together. If VR, they're forcibly seperated, which accounts for a LOT of people's discomfort in them. and makes the content feel like it's at a fixed distance, despite looking 3D.
I've seen a lot of VR reviewers talk about this issue but they put a name to it. I wish reviewers would talk about the need for verifocal lenses (lenses which allow focus and convergence to match) more so consumers could put a name to the phennomenon they experiance, so headset makers cna make it more of a priority. This one thing still puts a lot of people off playing VR fromt he strain and nausia.
SadlyItsBradley has spoken about those lenses coming in the future.
This is a great point. Thank you!
I was gonna comment but this eloquently sums up just about everything I wanted to say lol.
This is interesting. I haven't noticed this at all, but I really don't use the AVP for anything other than a screen like a TV or monitor.
I have had all the Quests and you do have to remind yourself you're in a game and you're not supposed to be moving, which I think helps your mind adjust. I've felt the nausea previously but now I don't really get it at all. One thing that helped me adjust was to just stop if you get nauseous, don't fight through it.
Varifocal lenses in VR are an active area of research.
Probably one of the most useful vision pro videos I've seen so far, thanks Caleb.
watching movies is the only reason I would buy one, so this is exactly the review I've been waiting for. Thank you so much.
The theater experience is better than what Caleb described. I don't think he has used it in the Apple TV+ app where the best movie watching experience is.
If your considering spending 3500 for a headset to only watch movies your doing something wrong in life , the TV you could get for that price makes it blatantly clear this headset is a rip off
@@weplayvrgames If you watched the video you'll see that he says the video quality is comparable, if not better in some ways to to the TVs you are talking about, plus, as he mentioned, 3D is as good as it gets, and there are reasons, even if you can't think of any, why a person would want home theater quality video and sound, without wanting others to hear it, or without the ability to have a 100 inch screen. I'm not going to get one, but the future isn't always clear and there may come a day where I don't have the space for a full theater and these might be not only better, but also cost comparible. So, not for me, but also not a rip off to some people
And it's portable so you can take it on business trips, camping/RV, boating/houseboat, etc.
and a lot of people now are doing "van life" or sharing a house with a ton of people because living has gotten so expensive. While it is expensive, if you really want a great movie experience with extremely limited space, this could be one of the very best options, and it is truly much cheaper than building a real home theater...which would be a giant waste if only one person wants that experience.
"Small screen close to my face", it's due to focal length. It pretends to have a large screen far away, but when your eyes try to focus far away, it doesn't quite work.
Pretty sure Caleb’s response is due to his using a device that wasn’t calibrated to his own eyes. So far I have only had the Apple Store demo but the calibration was spot on and the cinema screen legitimately looked like it was a way away, not anywhere near my face.
each time we waste hours watching useless reviews from one or another. each time you hit right the heart of the matter,. Great job my friend(s)
Hey man, just food for thought, but you don't have to insult others to compliment Caleb. I doubt he would even like that, not trying to be mean since you were trying to be nice but idk thought I'd say :)
Spot on review. I watched Mad Max Fury Road on the Vision Pro this week and aside from technical glitches brought on from laying in bed, it was an amazing experience. The 3D is top notch and I don't even have the prescription inserts yet (bought in in-store on Monday, inserts are out for delivery today which is Thursday). It's a really neat experience and while Meta has been building these headsets for a while, I think Apple figured out what problem it's trying to solve and they are doing a great job at solving it.
Gotta say, I almost rolled my eyes at the intro before talking about TrueCut motion, but you were so right to emphasize it. Jutter and stutter are my personal biggest issues left with my home theater experience. The possibility of that not being present makes my mouth (or eyes?) water.
Thanks for the shout ❤️
Loved the Jon Prosser call out. One of my favorite RUclipsrs being mentioned by another one of my favorite RUclipsrs is always a special moment!
I have one. Watching this review right now with it.
I love having a movie theater sized screen that I can take with me everywhere I go.
When was the last time you had a movie theater with you on an airplane?
Or on the train?
Or in your hotel room?
If you have a theater room, then no, this won't replace that because there is a slight goggles effect.
But everywhere else you go, my goodness it's nice to have.
This is the video that have been waiting for. To finally see a indepth comparison between a home theater and AVP and even talk about truecut motion which I've never heard about before. This is the first video I've seen in a while that actually has something new to say about AVP and doesn't even have a click bait title either. Bravo sir🎉🎉🎉
Nailed it. I have an A95K (not L) and find myself reaching for the AVP when I’m going to watch a movie alone. It’s an incredible device (and it’s a good comparison, since my TV and the AVP cost a near identical amount.) AirPods Pro sound better with this device than they have any right to, but I have been meaning to experiment with sending audio to my ATMOS home theater, not sure if I’ll be able to get it to work.
This is a fantastic device for watching movies. Avatar in D+ is indescribable. Looks better than I remember in the theater.
This device has weaknesses, and isn’t very good for gaming… but I am so happy I own it. I was skeptical at the price, it now that I’ve owned it for a month I would pay $5k instead of $3500. It’s that good.
You can send audio to Vision Pro through Bluetooth to speakers/surround soundsystem, but it's hidden. On Vision Pro go to Settings > Accessibility > Hearing Devices and pair your speaker or speaker system there. Reportedly
works fairly well but it will warn you that the implementation is not 'optimized for Vision Pro'.
Well said!
@@SteelersHomerI may be wrong, but I don't think you can reproduce surround sound with Bluetooth.
you reach the vision pro because of the guilt of wasting 3500$
In a word, EXCELLENT. I am one of your oldest fans at 81. This year I'm waiting for Black Friday to occur so that I can get the A95L and the quad/sub set up. We are social people, we like to have friends/family in for get togethers where we can share an experience together. But at my age you are more alone then in a social mode. To me this is peachy so I am more open to this Apple product then most. But it has to be a excellent combination of video and audio - and from your observations it seems that audio is not quite there yet -and tweaks to video needs some refinements. Still, I am outrageously close to leaping in on this idea and your comments are well received here. Keep on doing what you do !!!
this is the video ive been waiting for, thanks.
I haven’t turned my TV on in weeks since getting the Vision Pro.
makes two of us
Same.
Is the pass through not working so you can't find the remote?
@@danyunowork😂😂😂
Enjoy eating Ze bugs and living in the pod consumer
That conclusion at the end was truly awesome. Loved watching your take on the Vision Pro!
11:52 Perhaps you’re not using the special movie mode? When you’re just in the immersive environment watching a video, it maxes out at an apparent size of about 10 feet wide, 10 feet away from you.
The real immersion and scale comes when you click on the center of the video window (iTunes or AppleTV+) then click the environments that appear in the top left corner. If you’re in Mt Hood, you get options for Mt Hood Light, Mt Hood Dark, and Cinema. Those are absolutely convincing to me, my favorite is Cinema.
There are 6 different positions you can view in the Cinema but if you’re in the Front Row watching I’d say it looks about 15 feet tall and 30 feet wide. It’s absolutely convincing to me, I keep looking for the emergency exit sign.
Yeah seems like he just tried the Disney+ app which makes the screen big but not like the IMAX app or the cinema mode on Apple TV+. Would like him to trie that and update his thoughts about it. Caleb is kind of old lol so we should give him time to get the hang this new tech. Hopefully he continues to test this device while keeping up with normal tv things.
You're 100% right on the 48fps thing - I remember having this exact thought when the Hobbit films were released.
When I first entered the Disney+ immersive theater, I gasped. Absolutely stunning visuals.
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I would love an IMAX movie for the vision pro. Truly immersive experience.
there is an IMAX app for vision pro already. Its super good, its as if you are in IMAX itself
The IMAX app is shockingly good.
This kind of first hand experience with the device is really interesting. Great video
I’m glad I stuck with you… because you using a VP not setup for you made me kind of CRAZY.
Great video. One thing though....I don't know if you decided to omit or didn't have a chance to see it. Apple TV + has currently 3 TV shows (1 episode each so far) with immersive experiences (like this woman walking on the line in Norway) and some "animal planet" kind of things. I liked my AVP from the beginning.... but after watching these , made specially with some next level equipment by Apple.....that is the future of television ..and I want it NOW !!! Mind blowing.
Hello.
You mentioned the brightness, the Vision Pro uses "Pancake" optics, these in themselves absorb a lot of light on their own, so the OLED panels in the headset are considerably brighter than the light making it to your eyes.
Also, "Spatial Audio", another great way of experiencing this is a game on SteamVR called "Half Life Alyx", this is probably the best game ever made for VR, the audio is insane, in a darkened area in the game, you can hear little sounds (left say to the right rear of you) and you will turn around just to find out there is nothing there, it adds so much to the immersion and the experience.
Great review of the Vision Pro by the way, I'm Canadian, it's not available here yet, but once it is, it'll be over $4700.00 Canadian before taxes, so this is one item that is forbiddingly expensive, I won't be getting this since I like keeping my body parts right where they are (none for sale)! LOL
Do you still own the Nakamichi dragon 11.4.6 sound system?
Conventional reviews all echo the same stuff. This video was refreshing. Thanks!
I used to use a projector a lot for movie's and computer games that was great. VR headsets do the same thing very well, but the difference is unless you are in a R chat or horizons or something, VR tends to be for one person, but the projector is a shared experience.
Don't forget about BigScreen VR. Some of my favorite VR experiences have been watching movies with other people on their.
I've got it but never really used it..@@sonicsnake44
u can calibrate the ipd when u unlock it tho ...5 times pressing the crown I think
...about getting sick after 10 min idk there might have been another issue maybe with the software version or who knows what else the lidar reflecting from a mirror .....with a static experience there shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority of people
People would still want a home theater for multi viewer experience, however, using the Vision Pro for 3D movies like James Cameron’s Avatar is what makes the experience truly shine.
And Piranha 3D lol
You do such a great job at reviewing products. That’s all I have to say. Thank you.
Is TrueCut motion what James Cameron used for Avatar The Way of Water? I had very mixed feelings about it because for that film it was pretty much just a binary switch between 24fps and 48fps, and the constant switch on a shot-by-shot basis was distracting. I'd rather have the entire film 24fps or 48fps and not switch back and forth. I saw the film in IMAX twice and Dolby Cinema once and my feelings were the same about the HFR across formats.
"it enables you to exuberantly enjoy a deeper connection to something that you love when you are already isolated or alone" that sounds so depressing 😂
Sure, but did you type that while commuting or sitting on the toilet?
Being alone is very welcome for some people.
We found the extrovert y’all 😂😂😂
@@theklrexactly. Sometimes you have to turn off all of the attention.
@@whophd Are you not isolated and alone when you’re sitting on the toilet?
What’s your point? 🤡
I know the vision pro is so expensive at this point that there is little focus on multiple people using it in the same room -- does it have tools/features for making it easy for multiple people in the same physical room to watch the same movie synched up in their vision pros to enjoy more of a collaborative experience?
So far that is not a feature of Vision pro but they could add it in a update.
This device has singlehandedly resurrected my love of movies. I have an above-average home theater complete with Atmos, over $12k invested, and it never gets used because it's such a process to use it. With the AVP I can sit on a plane and get superior visual quality and while audio isn't near as good as at home, convenience makes it worth it.
Just got my set up and got the Apple Vision Pro a month ago and it’s better than my full theatre set up
Are the screen colors as vibrant on AVP vs your physical screen.
@@sonicsnake44 Dolby Vision HDR
@12:00 sounds like user error. The scale is off the charts. Try playing a video in the photos app and placing the window way back in your room. Perhaps your room is too small? It sometimes feels like the walls of the room limit the screen size.
Public Service Announcement: You can send audio from Vision Pro through Bluetooth to speakers, but it's hidden. Go to Settings > Accessibility > Hearing Devices and pair your speaker or speaker system there.
Reportedly works fairly well but it will warn you that the implementation is not 'optimized for Vision Pro'. I have the heralded Samsung Q990C Dolby atmos surround system. It upmixes everything including Bluetooth to near atmos quality. If/ when I get the Vision Pro I'll absolutely be connecting it to this when watching movies. Theater sized screen AND theater style sound!
Great Video - Look forward to learning more about TrueCut. Questions I have is who else is in the ecosystem? Disney is but is Apple? What TV vendors? Will it be like Dolby "inside"? Lightstorm and Dreamworks are involved. I know they have been talking about it for a while but it sounds like it's finally happening. The TV industry needs another catalyst to get everyone to upgrade. Looks like they finally found one. Fantastic overview of the AVP!
thank you. finally someone not trying to convince me that goggles are better than my TV. i have a G3 with the max Sonos setup and also own the Apple Vision Pro. watching Gravity in 3D on the vision pro on a plane was amazing, but at home I am never choosing the vision over the TV
Stunning review Caleb! Thank you!
Maybe this can help you. I too also couldn’t get over the idea of it being a small screen that was close to my eyes. But once I realized that’s not true because I can place the screen down in the room and when I walk up to it, it gets bigger so it’s not just a illusion like the Nreal Air or other video glasses.
Waiting for version 2, or 3, to come out...
Why not wait til version 4 or 5? We know version 4 will be better than 3. You do know that there will always be a better version right? As with any piece of technology
The answer is 100% yes. I've had this thing since launch weekend and I've learned how to wear it to fit me well. Whether you want to watch a movie in 3D (Apple TV has a ton and Disney has all the Avatar/Marvel movies and a bunch of animated ones) or even just enjoy streaming on anything it's awesome, insanely immersive with Spatial audio and a theater sized TV.
The other thing I constantly use it for is when I use my Mac. Browsing RUclips or watching clips of anything is on a screen the size of your room. It's a delightful experience.
I was waiting on this. Great job! Answered my questions. TY
I thought the exact same thing.
Can you airplay the sound to a physical multi speaker system ? Like a true (not virtual) 5.1 or a even an Atmos 7.1.2 ?
Sadly no. The AirPods Pro work way better than expected though.
@@RickWilliams84 Thanks !
I read somewhere that Apple is working on Sharing the experience of watching movies together. Maybe in Vision OS 2.0
I guess we will need a new certified tv and a new avr for this truecut motion, aww man. I wish it could be like a upgrade, like windows dts and atmos license from the store. Me and a lot of folks already got a 120hz - VRR tv and avr, so why we need to purchase a new device only for a license or certification. Thanks for the video.
Oh my god! Imagine if you did a TV review of the big dome in Las Vegas! Inside and outside screens!!!!
I tried the PS5 head set and wanted to love it but couldn't go for more than about 3 mins without feeling nauseous then had that feeling for about an hour and half more .... sent it back ... was wondering if I would have the same problem with this sort of device
You're supposed to keep using the headset and the nausea will go away over time.
3 minutes doesn't mean anything.
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I suppose I could of kept going but it didnt feel worth it to feel that sick every time I put it on ... oh well guess its not for me @@PSYCHOV3N0M
3 minutes? 😂 What the heck.
the psvr2 is the worst headset i tried.
PSVR sucks. Try Vision Pro in an Apple Store!
I came here looking for an overview of the Vision Pro for watching movies and got *way* more than I expected. Pretty excited about the future for the product. Great video, thanks!
The PSVR2 could actually function as that especially if Sony didn't use the fresnel pentile OLEDs but used their own super micro OLEDs that I believe the Vision Pro uses. I don't know the cost of that but if it was a matter of $100, it should have been incorporated.
Also Sony has some really good headphones with the Pulse Elite that are planar magnetic - they bought Audeze that made headphones that cost $4,500 so they can deliver sound that's second to none probably at this point.
So this could theoretically be done for much less but Sony kinda screwed the pooch with the PSVR2's OLED.
I actually bought Ps5 with the VR2 for the movie experience and I absolutely love it. Particularly when compared to PS4 VR1. I have some minor complaints but honestly the PS5 VR2 already gives me an awesome movie theater experience and sometimes I even forget I’m at home and not sitting in a theater. I really love it as it totally works for me.
So , now I’m really curious about VISION PRO for movies and I will buy it when the price comes down , but for now I’m more than happy with the movie experience I get on the PS5 VR2 , at least until I get one of these things.
Just picked up my Vision Pro and am having it ISF calibrated.
How is that possible?
I didn't read all the comments so I don't know if anyone else brought this up, but needs to be mentioned is that for people who do not have the space for a proper home theater setup, the Apple Vision Pro is a great alternative even if it can't match the real thing in all respects.
Agree, I'd like to have a home theater setup for certain types of movies, but don't want to devote the space to it (we tend to turn spare rooms to exercise spaces).
04:39 I got a Vive in 2017 and experienced the motion sickness effect exactly one time, and from then on it was only intentional because getting my VR Legs was easy enough so I noticed right away what was wrong in the game I was playing. In that case it was simply that the camera was slightly off center when turning L/R with the trackpads so your character doesn't quite move right.
Awesome, thanks for the different take! I like its future potential. I'll wait until it is more cost effective and ubiquitous, but I like what is on the horizon!
Just 1 more thing ? Love it. The apple reference
Great review! However peak brightness only a few inches from the eyes may have unintended effects.
I own a Meta Quest 2. You can purchase this older version for under 300 now. I'm still in awe of how good the Video Playback inside the Big Screen app looks. Far better than the PlayStation 1st Gen PSVR. As you know, there is a significant cost difference between the Apple and Quest. Now that you watched movies on the Apple, it would be nice to see you do a quest review. I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't see such a difference in visual quality to justify the Apple cost.
you need to manually push the video back and enlarge it, a two step process that would give you the large screen feel.
What's the background music in the video?
This was such a great video. Maybe now I’ll stop asking you to tell the OLED and QD OLED OEMs to give me back my 3D.
I don’t quite understand what’s the problem with resetting the device and restoring it back after several weeks? Does the setup of Vision Pro take days of adjustment or I missed something?
I have no problems with mine I ordered my prescription lenses popped them in never had any eye fatigue or anything past that. I use it for all my work with my MacBook and keep an eye on the kids watching security cameras over on another window. It has insane potential just needs more apps to come out on it.
9:55 what are examples which people made with different dubbing?
Do you think true cut is a feature that will be coming to TV soon? Is it worth holding out on a G4 to wait for a generation that includes it?
this was great!! i mostly see this as a media consumption device so your opinion was much appreciated! also, learned about a new technology (true-cut motion) which is exciting!
can i hook up a couple JL audio fathoms to the vision pro to get the tactile bass?
You can send audio from Vision Pro through Bluetooth to speakers, but it's hidden. Go to Settings > Accessibility > Hearing Devices and pair your speaker or speaker system there. Reportedly
works fairly well but it will warn you that the implementation is not 'optimized for Vision Pro'.
I was hoping for more detail on how the video quality was. Did it look like you were watching 720P content, 1080P content or 4k content on that cinema screen? That's all I really care about. I'm used to my 4k oled now, I don't think I can handle going back to 1080P.
Thank you for this very nice explanation, I got a couple quick questions when you’re using this do you see a black line and a bottom black line so you can tell you’re looking at a screen or does it fully engulfed your vision second question what happened if you need glasses for reading and you use the Vision Pro is it blurry?
Their are prescription lenses you can have put into the headset.
Will there be a way to watch my collection of 3D Blu-ray discs? Can Air pods Pro be used with AVP?
I use my AirPod pro with my AVP all the time.
Worth the wait, thank you very much Caleb!
Just checking, @Caleb_Denison, you did check out Apple's own "Cinema" environment to check out the full sized 100-ft theater screen, right? That's what everyone is talking about. Your video only showed you looking at the Disney+ environments, and those don't have the same effect, even their "Theater" environment. The Apple version is the one that makes you feel like you're in a theater, and you can change where you are "sitting" -- Middle, front, back, or balcony.
Also, I found the Apple TV versions of the "Avatar" films had better motion than even the Disney+ versions.
Why weren’t you able to have your friend reset the device for factory settings to reset the device for your ipd?
It's easy to share the display of the AVP. Just Airplay it to the local smart tv.
Everyone else will get a 4k HDR image with whatever sound system they have, including Dolby Atmos. It isn't antisocial for sharing movies or RUclips videos, etc.
Or everyone could listen on AirPods for Dolby Atmos, for late night viewing.
I actually did a demo of this at my local Apple store and was blown away. But I do feel like there is an issue with it really feeling like a huge screen. One thing I think might help (and it may seem weird) but would be to put a thin frame around it. It may even be an option but I think it will make it feel more real than no edge to the screen.
Its portable. Thats going to be the deciding factor for most people if someone is thinking of getting this instead of a traditional home theater setup.
Traditional home threater main advantage is sound.
12:05 I definitely did not have that particular problem. You can make the screen look smaller-and-closer, or bigger-and-farther-away. Grab the handle under the screen and push it away. It will keep the same "angular" size (so it takes up the same field-of-view), but, because it's farther away, it will look bigger.
Great video! I had a Vision Pro for a couple weeks and ultimately returned it because the lens glare/flare was just too much for me. Not everyone seems to note this and it makes me wonder if this was a phenomena maybe I'm just very sensitive to, perhaps the individual unit itself was worse than others, or perhaps the particular fit on my face made it more noticeable. This was definitely internal pancake lens reflections and not light bleed. Did you notice this much in your viewing?
I returned mine for the exact same reason. I kept thinking it was external light getting in until I kept experiencing the issue in an entirely dark room. It completely ruined the experience for me and ultimately led to my returning the device.
@@jmg5369 interesting that you had the same experience. It feels like someone is shining a flashlight at the lenses at some off angle. The Meta Quest 3 has a bit of this as well but it’s far less severe for me. The lenses on the Quest 3 are also much larger so I wonder if that or some other property of those lenses helps mitigate that.
I also experience glare in my AVP but it is nowhere near a deal breaker for me personally. The Cinema environment is the best solo movie watching experience I have ever had.
Varies by facial geometry and other factors, and will be the toughest thing for future pancake optics to overcome. A less dark environment helps a lot, but removes a key advantage. I’m fortunate that it doesn’t hit me much, yet I find the Quest 3 almost unusable due to glare - just luck of the draw in terms my face fitting the AVP better. (trying different facial interfaces can help) You do get used to it, but it’s a huge problem (seems to be exacerbated slightly by prescription lenses, too) Source: been working on the engineering side in the VR space since 2012.
I've wanted something like this ever since I played with my old View-Master back in the 1970s with its stereoscopic slides on a round, cardboard disk.
This is a really thoughtful review. You were wise to avoid an N+1 review of the speeds and feeds. Plenty of those as you said. This was a truly value-added review.
True Cut Motion! You guys have fun with that.
Really interesting deep dive into the Vision Pro! This video was very well done and Caleb’s commentary is thoughtful and intelligent, as always. I definitely think the Vision Pro will be an additional option in the pantheon of home entertainment offerings, but don’t think it will replace a great TV and sound system for me. For one thing, I don’t know how long I could take that thing on my face and strapped around my head! But I would sure like to try it sometime. Great job! Oh and love that album cover! Every jazz lover really should have an album cover with JAZZ emblazoned on it in turquoise and lavender! Hope the music is as amazing as the cover!!!🤣🥰🥳🔥
You can film things with it on and the person experiences those moments like they're doing it themselves. The Adult Industry is already counting their money.
Is it better than quest 3 ?
No
I really do not understand how people accepted the introduction of color and sound in movies but reject higher frame rates.
did you tried the Bigscreen Beyond
I've had the AVP for a month and wish to take issue with your comment about the experience of watching cinema. I believe the issue was that you were watching cinema in an outdoor light immersive environment where the features of the environment helped you perceive the screen as small. If I watch a video in the room with my television, I turn immersion off and place the AVP window just in front of the plane of my TV, and expand it. I now have the illusion of a large screen there. The Apple TV, Max, and Disney+ apps all have custom immersive environments that make the screen appear large. Importantly, they also darken the environment when displaying the video, which again allows the window to appear large as you don't have other reference points.
agreed even on my Quest 3 in theater mode or skybox I never felt like I was watching a small screen close to me eyes, it actually feels like I'm sitting down in a theater
@@msg360is quest 3 theater mode better than psvr2 theater mode?
I wouldnt know I dont have a AVP, but from this video the guy says there is a dept problem where it looks like he is looking at a Big screen close to his face. I don't have that issue with Quest 3 and skybox app. @@SteelersHomer
I dont know , AVP have HDR and 4k but you can only play apple tv movies and netflex , while the Quest 3 you can play any video you want .@@SteelersHomer
I think I prefer TVS more than something wrapped around my head watching content.😊
I thought so too until I used the Apple Vision Pro. The theater experience is better than what Caleb described. I don't think he used it in the Apple TV+ app where the best movie watching experience is.
I have a nice 4k oled tv. But the Vision Pro is amazing for watching shows. And movies. Just use the other strap.
Yeah some people will hate having something wrapped around face others will be fine. Me personally owning the Vision Pro and a Samsung S90c tv would still prefer the Tv because the Vision Pro makes me feel chained and not free. Where I would probably prefer the Vision Pro is if I had to go somewhere besides my room. I guarantee tho that if Apple makes the Vsion pro more affordable less heavy and more comfortable it’s game over for TVs.
Only main reason I’d stick to a nicer tv if anything. Is for my games. While I don’t play it often. I would love for a way other than streaming to play ps5 or Xbox in the device.
Thanks, I wish to see top 5 along with this if you buy it.
I like how you can go to so many new places and experience them visually but I’d prefer to do it in person though. I know most you can’t visit in person like the moon and space but to actually visit a location is TOTALLY different to seeing it on a screen.
I certainly don't want to have to wear a heavy headset for hours while watching a movie. Even with VR gaming, it's a price I pay for the very special kind of entertainment and immersion, but I do have to take off my headset in regular intervals because it just becomes hot, sweaty and uncomfortable at some point. With VR, I have no other choice that wearing the headset if I want to be immersed in the virtual world. But for watching a 2D movie, there is really no need. I will always, ALWAYS much prefer an actual big screen with a surround sound setup over wearing any kind of glasses.
As a crutch for someone who can't have a big screen due to any limitations (living-room or family-wise) it's a cool option, but that's about it.
I noticed LOTS of crass people making final judgments on something they haven't even used at all. Try the Vision Pro IN PERSON folks! It's 1000% a whole different experience unlike any other at this point!
Hi Caleb, what stands are you using for the Samsung speakers? I've been trying to find a good stand for them.
Is it possible that the screen didn’t feel very large to you, because you didn’t see the light it emitted bounce around the room?
How do these work for those of us who wear eye glasses? That strap doesn’t look like it would work with a pair of frames.
They make them for your prescription.
Would much rather get a 65" Sony A95L or a 77" Samsung S95C for the same price so that an entire family could watch contents/movies.
Then you may aswell throw your handheld phone away too. watching movies isn't all it's used for lool
If you can only afford one, then I think the shareable choice is the best option.
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@@gadget5129 well yeah. But the use cases are different. The vision pro is closer to a laptop replacement than it is a TV
I have a 5 grand Sony Tv and I wouldn’t turn on that TV ever again now that I have The Vision Pro. Now even close
Tries to use a Apple Vision Pro with the other users settings.. You can't make this up, there is a guest mode for a reason where it sets up everything for the new user. IPD, Eye tracking and hand tracking.
I would definitely love to try one of these out, and would likely buy one when they have a version out for around $1,000.
I think the comment about 3D taking off when 3D video is shot for the Vision Pro is interesting - The two Avatar movies were made for 3D, and shot with 3D cameras, and obviously were wildly popular mainly due to the spectacle, but even then, 3D movie making has not taken off - most “3D” movies are still conversions. I’m guessing it’s a lot more difficult to do, and have it look good, than you (or I) think, and as you should know, there’s no real demand for it for home viewing since I don’t think anyone makes 3D capable TVs anymore.
One thing I’d like to see is for Apple to allow this to work with PC VR software, like Steam VR, Open XR, or whatever. They’ve created the most high fidelity VR headset on the market, but they don’t even call it VR, and I haven’t heard of any popular VR games being adapted to the headset (lack of controllers doesn’t help). Without that, my only use case would be watching movies on vacation or something.