I found it incredibly fortunate and such a blessing l, and delightful that Orcas are incredibly intelligent, they recognize human and don’t prey on us. Otherwise they would be 100x scarier than sharks.
I believe it might be because the orcas see us as a source of food rather than food itself. Orcas have been known for stealing fish caught by fishermen
@@einseinstein572 in theory, in modern times yeah, drop a depth charge on em and bam, whale oil. Back in 17-1800 eh, could go either way. We dont go unnecessarily killing sharks because there is 8 shark attacks a year.
*Human proceeds to lock 🐋 1 in the equivalent of a concrete broom closet for the rest of it's short, depressed life and force it to do tricks for food.
I think the reason people find this so "dark" or "disturbing" is because we're so use to distinguishing ourselves from other animals. For the longest time, we thought that we were something truly unique. But then we find animals using tools, displaying emotions, solving complex problems, developing cultures, and even languages. And we accept it because it appears so innocent on the surface, almost like watching a baby learn how to talk and whatnot; we see them as a counterpart to ourselves. But then we see things like this, killing for sport or education, and we're scared because it forces us to contend with a part of ourselves that we don't like or condemn. We lambast war and killing of others, and yet animals do this, too. And we're afraid because it's like learning that the aforementioned baby has some how killed someone when you weren't looking. We're so use to being set apart from the rest that finding another species - and on our own planet, no less - that shares so many parallels to us is truly unnerving to some.
People can't make up their minds, either they think humans are fools that have turned from Nature's Grace or that we're sheperds who're supposed to guide the _innocent_ animals because *we know better.*
The way you narrated this video, I could totally see lot of emotions. I can listen your content even without any video/pictures. Just amazing how naturally it comes out!
If they don't train their young , they could starve to death someday. That's pretty rough too. The fish and crabs will feast on the dead , nothing goes to waste in nature.
True, but why don't they eat it? Also this doesn't explain the videos of orca ive seen when they launch seals 40ft into the sky, they really are just having fun with their "food"
You can make the argument for humans needlessly killing other animals though "They are just leaving them to other organisms to nourish themselves!" Lets call it what it is: cruelty. And that's fine. We are cruel, chimps are cruel, orcas are cruel, it is simply reality.
During the Narrative of this video and how he was conflicted about the actions of the Orca killing for sport, it made me think how an extraterrestrial would observe Human behavior and the thought process they might have in that observation. Im glad that they were objective enough to admit it in the end.
There are a number of predator animals that sometimes “play” with their prey without killing it, or kill prey without eating them (at least immediately). Cat species, and mustelid species, are other prominent examples. Behavioral ecologists speculate that there may be a survival advantage conferred by behaviors that give animals opportunities to practice their own predatory activities, or teach them to their young. Accordingly, some animals seem to have evolved so that the bond between their instinct to hunt and attack, and their urge to kill and eat, has become somewhat attenuated. It’s not become so loose that the animals fail to eat altogether, and thus starve to death, but it’s become loose enough that at times the predators don’t kill immediately, and thereby give themselves those opportunities to practice, or teach.
I have to imagine any successful hunter doesnt get that way strictly by survival hunting. Imagine if the only time you cooked food was when you were starving. Your capabilites would be diminished compared to practicing while well rested and fed. Or a better analogy is if football players only every played while it was during a televised game. There is even more merit to practicing the thing that literally keeps you alive. And no food ever goes to waste in the wild something will happily come along and finish off an easy meal.
Ooooor... They could just enjoy doing it. To a predator a living being that reacts to your actions must be a fun toy. Remember that almost all of the species you named are explicitly species capable of engaging in games just for the sake of it. And I will bring it back to the point at the end. Humans as a predatory species are also able to enjoy killing for sport and taking their time with it. In fact a lot of people do even if they make up reasons to convince themselves otherwise because it's frowned upon in our society.
@@Salted_Fysh - It is less likely that the capacity to enjoy that activity arose randomly and gratuitously as a trait widely found among individuals of a species, than that it was selected for, because it conferred advantages in survival and reproduction.
Orcas are highly intelligent and therefore have complex behavior. They kill not just for food, but also for teaching their young, and for playing, which we perceive as cruelty. And the fact that they sometimes let their prey go free could also mean that they have compassion when there’s no need for food. They are absolutely fascinating.
I don't see it as cruelty. Also, the carcasses the orca leave behind go on to provide food for other animals in the eco-system. In fact, the off-shore orca the feed primarily on large sharks, eat only the livers and leave the rest of the animal to drop down through the water column providing nutrients to myriad creatures. The premise of this little snippet of a documentary is problematic.
I seen a documentary about preying on the seals on the beach. This particular documentary showed them playing and tossing a baby seal for a while. Then when they were done playing with it, they bought back to shore unharmed and just released it.
@@lo-firobotboy7112 Exactly. Just like humans used to decimate bisons in America and leave their carcass almost untouched so other little animals could profit from it.
The fascinating thing about these animals is that it recognizes that it isn't the apex predator. They taught their young pretty well that humans are the most dangerous and that they know that if they attack human, humans will see them as a threat. Surprisingly, orcas don't hold a grudge on the whole species when attacked but instead, they remember that single individual and they know that humans are different from each other.
All vertebrates are like that. I had a frog and a bird scared of other people but not scared of me. Orcas inherited the oceans so it's their turn to rule the blues. They still avoid adult bull sperm whales for whatever reason. The bull sperm whales are far larger than the females and are very aggressive so maybe that is the reason, or maybe it's genetic ptsd from when the mighty levyiatan [sperm whales cousin] and the mighty megaladons hunted orcas.
Well said. What the Orca loving doofuses commenting on this video don't understand is if humankind chose to make it a priority, we could wipe-out Killer Whales world wide in a short span of time. They are not deep divers and can be easily tracked on sonar. Then corraled just as the aquarium trade used to do, and finished off. I would never want to see that happen, but I am just fed-up with idiots who think Orcas are some kind super animal that can sink a navy destroyer with a few bites.
You did exactly what the guy speaking said was a mistake, in that you anthropomorphised their behavior. Orcas have been known to save humans in the wild. They do not fear humans, nor are humans "apex predators." Guns, maybe. But not humans.
“Ye may kill for yourselves, and your mates, and your cubs as they need, and ye can; But kill not for pleasure of killing, and seven times never kill Man!”
My parents took me to a rather large zoo when I was small, & after viewing all the animals, near the exit was a group of peep holes where you could look at some of the smaller animals in their natural habitat without being seen by the animals. The last peep hole was listed as the most dangerous animal in the world. When I looked in it, I seen a reflection of myself.
There's a video in Patagonia where grandma Orca is left with two baby Orca's and she takes them to the bay where they breach for seals. She used a clump of seaweed or kelp and brought it up to the sand, then sat in the swell timing the waves and breached catching the seaweed. She then brought the seaweed out further away from the beach but still close and the babies had turns with grandma next to them breaching and catching the seaweed. She brought the seaweed closer and closer until it was on the beach again but this time the baby male was too scared so they left. It's all training, I've also watched another video where different pods who hunt differently usually will teach each other how to catch their local prey and help each other out.
@@paddor If you're going to point out the error, at least provide the correction. That way you'd be doing something helpful, rather than looking like a jackass who gets off on pointing out small mistakes others make.
@@Park-vq1gn Is it really bullying though? If they were doing it to each other in the wild you could say as much - but as far as I am aware they only do this in captivity, and usually simply because the idiot water park managers mix and match the orcas that have been raised separately, which is as good as throwing complete strangers in prison together and hoping that they wont tear each other to pieces without guards capable of stopping them. Orca probably do not see it as bullying or cruel when it is not their own kind though. The fact that they seem to be somewhere between playful and curious with humans in the wild only goes to show that we are simply outside their natural order - they do not see us as food clearly, and the curiosity likely stems from our non native appearance in and around the water.
I feel like, when people go "Why would any Animal do X?" the first question should be. "Why would I do X?" Because, like other animals, we do things for reasons other than food.
I had just made a comment to my husband that we were the only species on the planet that killed for sport and not just food. And lo and behold not five minutes later scrolling through RUclips I come across this video and was proved completely wrong. Firstly I want to say that I really appreciate the hard work and everything that you guys have done tonight just a short video. It's such a learning experience and extremely valuable knowledge I feel in our quest as human beings to learn about the other species on the planet. It is absolutely insane to me that Orcas do such , for lack of a better term, cruel and evil-type of actions!!!! I've been fascinated by Killer Whales for years and so much has come out about them , doing things ( like precision surgery to Great Whites for their livers!!) We as humans , didn't think even POSSIBLE for animals to do!! This was a GREAT video and I thank u for sharing with the world such fascinating things!!
This was fascinating. I've seen a lot of video of orca seemingly just killing for fun, the concept that they stringently compartmentalize everything, including teaching their young to hunt is interesting.
Orcas are life long learners. They never stop even creating different ways to kill for the survival of the pod. The actual kill for food, the kill to teach the young, etc.Many animals besides humans are surplus killers. There are also quite a few that are not. They only kill for food. Sharks are part of that group. Whales too. All dolphins (besides Orcas) are surplus killers. Some countires have tried to ban house cats from going outside.Because they would kill birds, mice, etc. Anything they can grab. Just for the fun of it.
@@PureLovable You have no proof that they are somehow morally above humans. The reality is, all animals can be cruel. Intelligence lends to this. Hence, smarter creatures seem more neurotic and evil in their violent actions. It's silly to demonize humans as somehow unique in this sense (or in any sense, honestly - we aren't so special in 99% of cases).
@@0ihatetrolls01 I think you misunderstood. the cruelness is merely one part of what makes them so similar to us, the similarity being the reason behind op‘s liking of them
Dolphins in general mostly all do surplus killing, sometimes just for fun it seems. They also use food to bait prey. It's pretty amazing how intelligent they are.
What's mind boggling is the fact that wild orca don't seem to attack humans. Ever. (Unless someone can find and source an orca attack on a human in the wild)
@@TheSquirrelbeast i'd imagine we're mostly attacked when wearing full black dive suits and gear which would taste awful. naked people would probably taste ok though tbh since orcas are fine with eating other mammals.
Victor Hausen -- agree 100%. The narrator is a PHOTOGRAPHER, not a marine biologist. Primates kill other primates, which even Jane Goodall was very reluctant to report. Like you said, projecting human values onto other life forms is silly. And irrelevant.
@@charliecrome207 ho ho! You're conflating subjective values with objective ones. Right and wrong depend on perspective. It is objectively "evil" to murder a mother of four, if you're looking to see how you can justify that, that will only contradict your opinion that good and bad are imaginary because you're using pre-established "rules" of morality, i.e "the mother deserved to die because she killed a person in her youth".
@@awepossum1059 lions also kill animals they don't eat. so does leopards, hyenas, and almost all predators. sometimes, they do it for practice, to teach the young, or just to control population
Uhh, I don’t know what planet you live on, but killing for sport is extremely unusual in the animal kingdom. There’s examples of it, yes, but the vast majority don’t. Orcas are terrifying, I would rather be bleeding in open water with a great white than be next to an orca
Very true…what I don’t understand is how our guilt is an evolutionary advantage. We literally guilt one another to the point of suicide and almost nobody feels bad about that but if I go out and shoot a buck and mount his rack on my door I’m the monster. Just because I killed him for sport doesn’t mean I didn’t keep the meat and distribute it amongst my friends and family…if these whales kill a sea lion something else will eat it
@@funfun5656 to some extent guilt is an evolutionary advantage. It acts as a deterrent to prevent us from doing things that we think are wrong, such as killing other humans which would be detrimental to our survival. Overtime however because of changing mentalities, quality of life and mental illness what causes people to feel guilt has also changed.
@@funfun5656 as has been pointed out in other comments the more intelligent you are the more your capacity for a wider range of emotions and thoughts. Humans just happened to be the most intelligent. This means we dominated the earth and formed societies that allowed us the opportunity to explore those thoughts and emotions such as guilt. That's why it's unique. Other animals may exhibit this to a lesser extent and we may not find out.
@@ch4z_bucks It's kind of counterintuitive if evolution truly is king so to speak, with more intelligence, and then more awareness beyond what the human brain is best suited for (we're still primally tribalistic as a species), that more and more people sort of "break apart" on a mental level, and societies face more and more instability because pretty much nothing works for everyone when it comes to social constructs.
It always amazes me that when we humans see our own behaviour in other species, we're horrified. Its almost like the orca are trying to teach us something.
pretty weird how you called them jerks and how he is calling the act very cruel and uncomfortable to watch when we as humans have been doing something far worse. you know its not because of orcas that so many animals are going extinct and whatnot horrible things are happening to the entire ecosystem
"killer whales"... because they are KILLERS of whales. They're dolphins who like to prey on whales, but by being a dolphin family, they are also a sub-family of the toothed whale taxonomy
@@BullShitThat Yes. The term 'killer of whales' was an epithet first attributed to them by sailors and whalers of old following observation of that very behaviour. It became condensed over time hence the more recent confusing moniker.
I saw a video yesterday that said weren't Orca named killer whales because people thought they were whales that kill, their name came from them killing whales (Orca asesina ballenas), it translated to Whale Killer then somehow it was inverted because it rolled off the tongue easier. I used to love these things but the more I find out about them the more like humans they seem and if you're not conflicted about humans then you're not paying attention
We’re privileged to be able to choose whether we indulge in unnecessary cruelty?! I find the use of the word privileged to be a strange choice. The word is most often applied to a reward system. To be privileged is to have attained some benefit. I can’t see unnecessary cruelty in this way. These Orca were choosing to teach their young how to survive and thrive by inflicting cruelty upon a different species who are ultimately prey to them. Man no longer needs to teach its young how to survive in the same way, therefore killing prey animals is done for sport and entertainment. Is it any wonder then that humans started killing other humans? Not out of any other reason than a difference of opinion! We don’t share another’s religion, we have massive stockpiles of food whilst elsewhere people are starving, we wage war to steal land and make others bow to our rule. I’m sorry but I don’t count myself as privileged to be human when man mercilessly kills his fellow man.
Unbelievable. I am reading comments saying Orca are as intelligent as humans, but unlike us they are not 'priviledged' to choose not to do unnecessary cruelty. So why do they get a pass and humans don't?
Orca's have that same ability... they interact with humans just fine in the wild so they obviously pick and choose when to get violent. Orca's have a very high IQ for animals, its odd how sometimes its "animals are smarter than we think" then its some bs like your comment.
I feel like with how intelligent they are they are doing some cruel acts on purpose. Like how some people are very nice and others comment horrible acts, maybe some animals like orcas have that same level of different personalities.
Being at the difficult place & providing us a deep knowledge of they interact & act together, is out of our league. Glad watching very meaningful & realising how life is important. Great work ❤️
They are so intelligent they can grasp death for food and playing with an animal for instruction to there off spring. Truly a brilliant animal, the best of the seas and oceans are Orcas.
I mean yes they are. In order to process the thoughts of doing something not based on an in built instinct you need higher intelligence. The smarter the species the more they can seperate wants and needs into seperate thoughts.
Those whales that find it enjoyable practice it and engage in it more often, becoming better killers and thereby more effectively passing their genes into future generations. Thus the question of whether it's immediately adaptive (e.g., training the young) versus a by-product of adaptation (e.g., enjoying hunting) is somewhat trivial. The fact that animal predators enjoy hunting should not be a surprising fact other than to those who believe that such amoral feelings only exist in humans.
Thanks for this very cool video! I always found this kind of behavior off-putting, because it struck me as cruel as well. But the video got me thinking and it's really not any different from what an average housecat will do to any bug unfortunate enough to cross its path.
They’re highly intelligent and of course they need to teach their young how to survive.. Even though the females remain with the pods their whole lives, they still need to learn how to function. They’re called the “wolves of the sea”,as they hunt as a pack. What exactly they were doing with the seal was odd. I think they were showing their youngsters how to hunt,and tire out your pray. Yet they didn’t eat it in the end. As they function as a group,they hunt as a group for bigger prey that will feed the whole pod. Their usual prey are small whales and whale calves, larger sharks, and elephant seals.
Smart animals like them are just like us. Dolphins do terrible things as well, sometimes to each other. Just goes to show that our cruelty probably comes from nature, as does theirs.
Orcas are so good hunters that they often have so much food left untouched after a hunt, they won’t just consider other animals as prey, they will also consider them as toys, they are just such great hunters that food and toys are the same thing to them, they don’t kill because they are desperate, they kill because it’s fun
Maybe they kill for the 'life energy', and when that's extinguished they leave the dead body. Serious. The ones that hunt on the beach are becoming a different species to the ones that don't, the first 'soul-eating' Orcas. Or life-energy eating.
@@alejandrob.4961 Yes. It’s the circle of life. The presenter seemed astonished that the sealion was not going to end up ‘as precious calories’ for the whales. Well so what? It’ll be precious calories for a scavenger or other marine animals.
@@Knappa22 but if you can apply a category for all things then the category lose is meaning; it would be ok if I kill 1000 elephants and rhinos because flies, worms and other insects and animals could eat those corpses?
Thank you for the efforts you put to deliver this material. We know so little about the life of whales. Thanks to such expeditions as yours we discover more and more interesting features of whales behavior.
It makes me laugh, we muddle ourselves over the terms; orca are dolphins , some cetaceans are dolphins, some are whales and at the top of it all, all cetaceans are whales 😅
What an incredible intelligent animal the entire whale family is. Events like these get me thinking how complex life is in this universe and we humans are so negligible yet we tend to think our being on this planet is the most important thing that has no end.
@@ch4z_bucks - "No." Dolphin is not a single species, and neither is whale. In the formal sense, dolphins belong to the whale family. You can look up the classification.
I was absolutely captivated by this video. Orcas are such incredible creatures, with their intelligence and complex social structures. It's fascinating to see how they exhibit behaviors that go beyond just survival instincts. This video truly highlights the intricate balance of nature and the harsh realities these animals face in the wild. It's a reminder of the complexities of the natural world and how every species plays a vital role in maintaining its harmony. Truly mesmerizing! 🐋🌿
No????? 90% of hunters despise the jerks who go to Africa and hunt things for sport, not to mention the shitloads of non-hunters hating it too. Most hunters eat what they kill. Very few people in modern society call sport hunting normal or ethical.
I'd go with the opposite of everything you said. Are you from Commiefornia? Orcas are supposed to do this, by nature. We humans should not hunt for sport, only for food. Or in my case, if there are wasps, noisy mockingbirds, mosquitoes, houseflies, or grackles. Everybody else gets to live.
Actually nah. Usually it's adults who indulge in this behavior. They just like to play with their food. They also have been known to kill prey but only eat specific parts and leave the rest of the carcass. For example: Shark liver and baby sperm whale tongue. This earned them another nickname: the gourmets of the sea.
@@ChasehaWing - Maybe there's a problem with eating them, like how cats will leave certain organs of a mouse's body on instinct. Anyway, in this instance it seemed to be an exercise in survival against a rival species (which is a threat to their young).
Orcas are intelligent enough to never go for human kills since they know they might get wiped out ..... that's intelligence at a completely groundbreaking level ...... how they were playing with the humans in their kayaks and then suddenly became predatory for a seal ..... unbelievable .....
Not true at all. You have zero evidence for that and there's no correlation between human predation and the species being hunt by humans. Blue Whales never hunted humans and look how we almost drove them to extinction. Orcas killing humans wouldn't really change anything when it comes to their survival.
They don’t view humans as food. And they know we are intelligent. That’s why there is no recorded human death in the wild from an Orca. They even kill Great White Sharks for their livers!
The very first thing out of this guys mouth is that he thinks it's a mistake to compare humans to orcas, followed by a rant about how cruel they are to kill animals and not eat them and then finishes by stating that humans are the worst offenders in that regard, seemingly contradicting his first point.
It's called nature. Plenty of animals will kill for reasons other than food. Watching Orcas take down large prey is an awesome display for sure. Its certainly not a sight for the faint of heart.
Thank you! Steve Backshall is phenomenal, very interesting docu.! its always great to get more knowledge about animals and their behavor - until now i loved the Movie "Free Willy" 💕 Orcas are stunning, they are alpha predators and have the best killing strategie in groups. they can kill big white Sharks !
I'm not 100% on board with this guy's last statement regarding hunting for sport. Yes, there are people who hunt for sport, but even in the vast majority of these cases, they still haul in the kill and either process the meat themselves or have it processed somewhere. And even in places where hunting is very common, it is still a small subset of people who actually go hunting. I grew up in rural indiana and would estimate far less than 5% of people hunted once a year or more, even less than that actually making a kill. Trophies are usually made of heads, antlers, or skins because the rest of the body is being used for meat. Now there is a small subset of hunters who chase big game in a "predator vs predator" or "man vs beast" kind of thing. They will usually have the entire animal taxidermied, but these guys are far and few between, and only make up a tiny fraction of the hunting population. This of course is only speaking of modern day. In the olden days we used to kill for food, materials, and defense. I don't understand why people constantly try to demonize us as a species. Yes, own up to the things we actually did wrong like polluting the planet, or our involvement in deforestation, but you're talking about a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of the human population here, and you're going to put that blame on the entire species? By no means could that behavior be considered commonplace amongst humans.
This video is typical of the BS narrative whereas no species is worse than the horrible, wasteful cruel humans. Nothing is more cruel than wild nature!
tiny fraction? I dont know if you realize but just our consumption, most forms of packaging we use among a plethora of other things end up polluting the most critical ressources we have (Oceans, forests and the fauna and flora that provide us with all nutrients we need) and thereby killing an unkown number of lifeforms. I'm not a hardcore activist or anything however if you look at how our impact on earth's environement went into crescendo mode in less than a millenia, you can't help but go damn!! And if you think killing for sports and not consuming is what would "demonize" us, you're greatly mistaken. Humans have done, are doing and will keep on doing horrible things to the very ecosystem that allows us to live and "evolve" the way we do and one of the driving factors behind that is the cluelessness of each of us individuals regarding the daily habits and commodities we got used to and the price we are and will be paying for them. Ofc all I said would need data to back up the context of my answer but hey this is a youtube comment lmao, but I hope people will try to at least research this subject a bit even if it's in the hope of saying i'm wrong and just an alarmist.
@@Topway2 Not what I was talking about. My comment was purely regarding hunting/killing for sport, which was in reference to the claim the guy made in the video. I even mentioned owning up to pollution and deforestation in my comment.
@@robbnoble1509 I was basically answering your question on why put the blame on the entire species but i get your point and as i said hunting for sport is indeed not enough for that.
@@Topway2 Ah, reading back I see how I miscommunicated that. Indeed we do deserve the blame for harming the environment as a whole. The glove just didn't fit on this very specific issue.
I've seen the aftermath of a wolves pack attacking a sheep herd in a fenced spot at night. Sheep were apparently panicking, broke the gate and ran out. we found the next day about 20 of them killed (throat bites and/or disemboweled) an only one half-eaten. Some sheep alive had massive bite wounds in various places. One shepherd's dog was severely injured and died later. The other dog had manageable wounds. Talking the joy and rage of killing. Or put it nicely: surplus killing.
well that's a pickle. ouch! but rage, idk. i watch my cats and they don't hate the mouse, they love the mouse... too much for the mouses' good. the wolves probably were more happy and psycho than angry and psycho. like a food fight, a feeding frenzy except when it came to the dog, they were probably angry at the dog
@Sigrid Kaag wolves in central Asian steppes, as a matter of fact thousands of their generations, know very well sheep. The "semi-zoo" predator situation in the Netherlands, or even Germany, is not comparable. I thoroughly enjoy the attitude in western postmodern societies to humanize animals and to excuse and to justify "animalistic" behavior )))
Same story with a fox in a chicken coop. After it kills the first chicken, the wing flapping and movements of the other chickens will continuously trigger its killing instinct until all the chickens are dead.
It’s really cool to see the orcas behavior especially like this one with teaching youngsters how to hunt .Although it does leave carcasses that’s food for other animals to eat
Great point! That’s the way I see it when my cat catches small prey. Some people bury their “gifts” but I leave them for the other little animals who might be in need of a meal.
It's truly a sick means of teaching. The way that orcas hunt and learn is really wretched, but I mean that's what happens in the natural world when a species has such a surplus of intelligence, and because their hunting technique is so efficient they are able to squander as many opportunities as they wish. Leaving room for brutal things such as killing without nourishment in mind. Also with the idea of evolution in mind: it is peculiar to think about how intelligent species such as chimps, orcas, orangutans, and elephants would have developed without us (homo sapiens) taking the place of the dominant species. I mean most of the aforementioned can form tight social bonds, and work in family units well with the exception of orangutans which have a prolonged teaching period for the first 10 or so years of their lives. I mean it was theorized that dinosaurs given the time could have became rather humanoid. They were really some of the first species to sport bipeadalism effectively, so without the to drastic to adapt to weather fluctuations, and other extinction level threats they could have kept mammals in check and risen to take our place. So why could the same not be said of today's modern species? I mean it's just a wild thought...
Sick, wretched, brutal. All human concepts that don't apply to anything outside of our minds. You're being a little silly projecting all that onto a wild animal with a completely different mind and culture. 😏
@@Ki_Adi_Mundi yeah um okay but last time I checked orcas didn't have a specified culture which has a definition that is almost entirely in relation to human achievement, customs, and art. Sorry though I guess your right in some aspects I don't mean to strike up an argument. Also I strive to be silly so thanks for the validation lol😋
@@simpleman283 well it is just a figure of speech I'm saying that the definition of culture relates to human achievement, customs and art. Meaning that the word has no viable application in regards to orcas in the same way that sick, wretched, and brutal have no relevancy in regards to orcas sorry if this is perceived as me being annoyed or annoying its hard to slip a tone into a typed message 😅
For a species that not only "kills" for food, but also enjoys capturing animals to keep them in captivity, humans are a species that feels quite empowered to make moral judgments about cruelty.
I'm not sure who that man is but I thoroughly enjoyed that..thank you for your hard work and dedication to your craft to be able to bring such informative entertainment to the masses...
Poor sea lion he paid the price for family teaching! Nature is amazing but can be cruel, just like us humans, we are so much alike. Great video ~ he got it right!
@KAROON BOOMIE It is not cruel when they are starving, and also teaching their infants how to eat. That is the way they eat, unlike us humans. Sometimes, the infants don't want to eat it.
Humans used to do this thousands of years ago. And some tribes around the world STILL do… It’s a predatory instinct and game. That’s what top tear predators do.
The people who anthropomorphize these things to the point where they call them "Bad Natured" for being exactly what they're supposed to be seem like the same kind of people who anthropomorphize bears while completely ignoring the brutal things they do sometimes as well. Ignorant.
I just wish they hadn't used the title "Bad Natured." Again, it is us humans assigning our own values onto Nature. And, calling their behavior _bad_ can have devastating effects on the orca, as some humans will use the term as an excuse to harm them.
how does people come up with these feel good nonsense....I am sure you must have been laughing while u were writing these. some humans will use the term as an excuse to harm them"...like let's go to harm orcas nearby home.
Strange to hear that from a man who spends a lot of time in nature. I have grown up in mountains. We have an animal breeding business. The main enemy was a wolf, not a bear because the wolf will kill all sheep when he attacks without eating them. It can be 10-20 animals at a time. I love Orcas. Watched them in wild. They are beautiful and intelligent animals. I think they are doing it for a purpose like a wolf.
When animal do good things Animal lovers: Oh look! Animals have compassion too. How cute! 😍 When animals do bad things Animal lovers: It's not their fault! They don't know what is bad or good! 😠
Fr bro I hate those kinds of people who always think of animals as so much morally better than us and almost seem to have a hatred for humanity. They're in the comment sections of almost every animal-related video.
People would say this is a sick method to teach, but it's just another way of imposing anthropocentric values on animals. We might be cruel too in Orcan Law book😌
I feel like if you removed the context of what the two species were, you could easily assume this was about humans. Every time he mentioned the orcas I would replace it with human in my head, and nothing said is abnormal to our behaviour. Obviously the slapping your tails part but still. I personal dislike the idea of hunting for any other reason then food, I also believe if you are able to hunt less or stop hunting. Their are obvious excepts, such as indigenous peoples and people living remote unable to get a steady access of food to survive. We already take up so much space ourselves, including farms that are overly saturated with space and unnecessary livestock that could be replaced with plants which are overall better for you, and the environment and take less space and consume less. Livestock consume roughly 40% of our grains and cereals, yet don’t produce a quarter of our calorie intake. Went on a little tangent, but raising animals to be killed and eaten is uniquely human and uniquely cruel. “The animals don’t know better”, they don’t know because they were never given a chance to know, that justifies nothing. If someone is told all their life that something inhibits them, when in fact naturally it doesn’t exist, that is wrong. We need to stop treating animals and our environment as ours, it is not our possession, we did not make it, we weren’t here first, and we will not be here after it. It will surpass us, when there is nothing but a blade of grass left, we will have been gone for an unfathomable time.
Tell me please, what do you care if someone shoots a deer and eats it over a cow killed in the stall? The deer has a chance to outsmart the hunter. Serious hypocrites out there.
I have, with my father, been fishing in British Columbia, over on the ocean side of Vancouver Island, mainly the Barkley Sound area, it looks like some of the same area where your video footage was taken, beautiful place to fish. When the Orcas come into the sound we stop fishing because the salmon hide from the Orcas. We have had Orcas swim along and under our boat, makes your 22 foot boat look like a toy, they are magnificent creatures. I do have to disagree with one little comment you made towards the end of the video. You stated that the Orcas were not the only mammals to kill for sport, that man was worse. 0ne hundred percent of Orcas participate in such activities where only a few humans do, it looks like the Orcas are worse, of course you can't reason with a Orca.
Um, since we are attempting to measure the cruelty of these orcas by comparing them to human actions and reactions, I'd like to point out that most of the human population gets its food from means thousands of times more cruel than what is displayed in this video at the expense of other animals. I'd go so far as to bet the energy these scientists were operating on was produced by means of domestication of other animals which is inherently cruel depending on the perspective used to measure such things. We have an incredible capacity to ignore reality for the sake of a calm yet ignorant inner dialogue.
"domestication of other animals which is inherently cruel" Not in my opinion. Domesticated animals live longer, safer, more comfortable lives than their wild counterparts. Their deaths are instantaneous and much less terrifying than the deaths of their wild counterparts and they don't live their lives constantly on the brink of starvation.
If you've ever been in a kayak (this video appears to be from a tourist) - you know the Orca would eat you in 1 second if the wished. Me & my wife watched Orcas in WA state hunt at sunset. It was so fast (they were 10-25 mph) - the male orcas had fins 6' tall & you just went "whoooa. These cousins are closely related to us (in both biologic & mental components) - I truly hope they survive. Perhaps they will tell the story of those land-beings-turned-incinerated-wastelings.
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I found it incredibly fortunate and such a blessing l, and delightful that Orcas are incredibly intelligent, they recognize human and don’t prey on us. Otherwise they would be 100x scarier than sharks.
They're so smart they know they'll get fucked up if they eat humans. They know we'll hunt them to extinction.
But then they would already be extint and there would not be any video about orcas killing for sport.
I believe it might be because the orcas see us as a source of food rather than food itself. Orcas have been known for stealing fish caught by fishermen
Its not fortune, its smarts.
If they predated humans theyd be dead.
@@einseinstein572 in theory, in modern times yeah, drop a depth charge on em and bam, whale oil. Back in 17-1800 eh, could go either way. We dont go unnecessarily killing sharks because there is 8 shark attacks a year.
🐋 1= "Some human is telling us we have disturbing behaviour"
🐋 2 = "That sounds human to me"
*Human proceeds to lock 🐋 1 in the equivalent of a concrete broom closet for the rest of it's short, depressed life and force it to do tricks for food.
@@macpheemusic4294 Lmaoooo frr
U sound woke to me. And anti human
I think the reason people find this so "dark" or "disturbing" is because we're so use to distinguishing ourselves from other animals. For the longest time, we thought that we were something truly unique. But then we find animals using tools, displaying emotions, solving complex problems, developing cultures, and even languages. And we accept it because it appears so innocent on the surface, almost like watching a baby learn how to talk and whatnot; we see them as a counterpart to ourselves.
But then we see things like this, killing for sport or education, and we're scared because it forces us to contend with a part of ourselves that we don't like or condemn. We lambast war and killing of others, and yet animals do this, too. And we're afraid because it's like learning that the aforementioned baby has some how killed someone when you weren't looking. We're so use to being set apart from the rest that finding another species - and on our own planet, no less - that shares so many parallels to us is truly unnerving to some.
I agree.. WE are all animals, so any sentient being is a individual can be bad, good, generous, stupid, curious etc etc
Like #100. Amazing comment.
So true..
I've noticed this often.
People can't make up their minds, either they think humans are fools that have turned from Nature's Grace or that we're sheperds who're supposed to guide the _innocent_ animals because *we know better.*
But in reality we just have to accept the fact that we are animals, and that its quite useless to distinguish ourselves in the way we do
The way you narrated this video, I could totally see lot of emotions. I can listen your content even without any video/pictures. Just amazing how naturally it comes out!
If they don't train their young , they could starve to death someday. That's pretty rough too. The fish and crabs will feast on the dead , nothing goes to waste in nature.
Nothing goes to waste, except all life
True, but why don't they eat it? Also this doesn't explain the videos of orca ive seen when they launch seals 40ft into the sky, they really are just having fun with their "food"
You can make the argument for humans needlessly killing other animals though
"They are just leaving them to other organisms to nourish themselves!"
Lets call it what it is: cruelty.
And that's fine. We are cruel, chimps are cruel, orcas are cruel, it is simply reality.
During the Narrative of this video and how he was conflicted about the actions of the Orca killing for sport, it made me think how an extraterrestrial would observe Human behavior and the thought process they might have in that observation.
Im glad that they were objective enough to admit it in the end.
Yes, imagine an objective observation on feedlock farms & slaughter houses.
Industry of killing. child trafficing.
Humans have the worst conduct
And imagine if after that they also thought about them beeing the master of sport hunting.
Well said, and I agree 1000%
Tora Dora what fucking Extraterrestrial? I need the name of that strain of gas you smoking
@@sarahmottramart "Humans have the worst conduct"
The worst conduct compared to what and according to whom?
There are a number of predator animals that sometimes “play” with their prey without killing it, or kill prey without eating them (at least immediately). Cat species, and mustelid species, are other prominent examples. Behavioral ecologists speculate that there may be a survival advantage conferred by behaviors that give animals opportunities to practice their own predatory activities, or teach them to their young.
Accordingly, some animals seem to have evolved so that the bond between their instinct to hunt and attack, and their urge to kill and eat, has become somewhat attenuated. It’s not become so loose that the animals fail to eat altogether, and thus starve to death, but it’s become loose enough that at times the predators don’t kill immediately, and thereby give themselves those opportunities to practice, or teach.
I have to imagine any successful hunter doesnt get that way strictly by survival hunting. Imagine if the only time you cooked food was when you were starving. Your capabilites would be diminished compared to practicing while well rested and fed.
Or a better analogy is if football players only every played while it was during a televised game.
There is even more merit to practicing the thing that literally keeps you alive. And no food ever goes to waste in the wild something will happily come along and finish off an easy meal.
I think they might also be using the young to taunt the parents into defending it and getting a bigger meal
There's this cat that used to bring us half dead birds and lizards in the house. Blood everywhere. I think he was gifting.
Ooooor... They could just enjoy doing it.
To a predator a living being that reacts to your actions must be a fun toy. Remember that almost all of the species you named are explicitly species capable of engaging in games just for the sake of it.
And I will bring it back to the point at the end. Humans as a predatory species are also able to enjoy killing for sport and taking their time with it. In fact a lot of people do even if they make up reasons to convince themselves otherwise because it's frowned upon in our society.
@@Salted_Fysh - It is less likely that the capacity to enjoy that activity arose randomly and gratuitously as a trait widely found among individuals of a species, than that it was selected for, because it conferred advantages in survival and reproduction.
Orcas are highly intelligent and therefore have complex behavior. They kill not just for food, but also for teaching their young, and for playing, which we perceive as cruelty. And the fact that they sometimes let their prey go free could also mean that they have compassion when there’s no need for food. They are absolutely fascinating.
I don't see it as cruelty. Also, the carcasses the orca leave behind go on to provide food for other animals in the eco-system. In fact, the off-shore orca the feed primarily on large sharks, eat only the livers and leave the rest of the animal to drop down through the water column providing nutrients to myriad creatures.
The premise of this little snippet of a documentary is problematic.
I seen a documentary about preying on the seals on the beach. This particular documentary showed them playing and tossing a baby seal for a while. Then when they were done playing with it, they bought back to shore unharmed and just released it.
CALLED SURVIVAL !!!! ALL IT IS
cats play all the time. are they intelligent?
@@lo-firobotboy7112 Exactly. Just like humans used to decimate bisons in America and leave their carcass almost untouched so other little animals could profit from it.
“I bet you don’t dare get on the shore and snitch that seal.”
“Hold my pufferfish.”
The fascinating thing about these animals is that it recognizes that it isn't the apex predator. They taught their young pretty well that humans are the most dangerous and that they know that if they attack human, humans will see them as a threat. Surprisingly, orcas don't hold a grudge on the whole species when attacked but instead, they remember that single individual and they know that humans are different from each other.
All vertebrates are like that. I had a frog and a bird scared of other people but not scared of me.
Orcas inherited the oceans so it's their turn to rule the blues. They still avoid adult bull sperm whales for whatever reason. The bull sperm whales are far larger than the females and are very aggressive so maybe that is the reason, or maybe it's genetic ptsd from when the mighty levyiatan [sperm whales cousin] and the mighty megaladons hunted orcas.
Well said. What the Orca loving doofuses commenting on this video don't understand is if humankind chose to make it a priority, we could wipe-out Killer Whales world wide in a short span of time. They are not deep divers and can be easily tracked on sonar. Then corraled just as the aquarium trade used to do, and finished off. I would never want to see that happen, but I am just fed-up with idiots who think Orcas are some kind super animal that can sink a navy destroyer with a few bites.
@@trvth1s same situation like you but inverted
You did exactly what the guy speaking said was a mistake, in that you anthropomorphised their behavior. Orcas have been known to save humans in the wild. They do not fear humans, nor are humans "apex predators." Guns, maybe. But not humans.
“Ye may kill for yourselves, and your mates, and your cubs as they need, and ye can;
But kill not for pleasure of killing, and seven times never kill Man!”
My parents took me to a rather large zoo when I was small, & after viewing all the animals, near the exit was a group of peep holes where you could look at some of the smaller animals in their natural habitat without being seen by the animals. The last peep hole was listed as the most dangerous animal in the world. When I looked in it, I seen a reflection of myself.
I remember that. It was the Bronx zoo, no?
That's a great lesson.
how would you see a reflection of yourself if you were looking through a small peep hole?
Geez. You were just a kid.
Damn that’s deep
There's a video in Patagonia where grandma Orca is left with two baby Orca's and she takes them to the bay where they breach for seals.
She used a clump of seaweed or kelp and brought it up to the sand, then sat in the swell timing the waves and breached catching the seaweed.
She then brought the seaweed out further away from the beach but still close and the babies had turns with grandma next to them breaching and catching the seaweed.
She brought the seaweed closer and closer until it was on the beach again but this time the baby male was too scared so they left.
It's all training, I've also watched another video where different pods who hunt differently usually will teach each other how to catch their local prey and help each other out.
That's amazing
@@paddor If you're going to point out the error, at least provide the correction. That way you'd be doing something helpful, rather than looking like a jackass who gets off on pointing out small mistakes others make.
“It’s all training” the anime is still killed tho..
wow!!! the mom is using multimedia to demonstrate job skills. home schooling A+
Its Beaching, not breaching. It's called that because they come and lay on the beach to catch prey.
Orcas are highly intelligent, social and ferocious predators. Incredible creatures 💙
they're not ferocious. sharks are ferocious. orcas are sick and twisted, like serial killers.
@@Park-vq1gn that's as anthropocentric as it gets
@@Park-vq1gn Is it really bullying though?
If they were doing it to each other in the wild you could say as much - but as far as I am aware they only do this in captivity, and usually simply because the idiot water park managers mix and match the orcas that have been raised separately, which is as good as throwing complete strangers in prison together and hoping that they wont tear each other to pieces without guards capable of stopping them.
Orca probably do not see it as bullying or cruel when it is not their own kind though.
The fact that they seem to be somewhere between playful and curious with humans in the wild only goes to show that we are simply outside their natural order - they do not see us as food clearly, and the curiosity likely stems from our non native appearance in and around the water.
I hate them now
Any animals can be a bully.
I feel like, when people go "Why would any Animal do X?" the first question should be. "Why would I do X?" Because, like other animals, we do things for reasons other than food.
People forgot we're literally just another animal.
@@CANELA-cnm We're not, we're created in the image of God.
@@sitcomchristian6886 So you saying that God believing we are his best creation and we are not animals
I had just made a comment to my husband that we were the only species on the planet that killed for sport and not just food. And lo and behold not five minutes later scrolling through RUclips I come across this video and was proved completely wrong. Firstly I want to say that I really appreciate the hard work and everything that you guys have done tonight just a short video. It's such a learning experience and extremely valuable knowledge I feel in our quest as human beings to learn about the other species on the planet. It is absolutely insane to me that Orcas do such , for lack of a better term, cruel and evil-type of actions!!!! I've been fascinated by Killer Whales for years and so much has come out about them , doing things ( like precision surgery to Great Whites for their livers!!) We as humans , didn't think even POSSIBLE for animals to do!! This was a GREAT video and I thank u for sharing with the world such fascinating things!!
This was fascinating. I've seen a lot of video of orca seemingly just killing for fun, the concept that they stringently compartmentalize everything, including teaching their young to hunt is interesting.
Orcas are life long learners. They never stop even creating different ways to kill for the survival of the pod. The actual kill for food, the kill to teach the young, etc.Many animals besides humans are surplus killers. There are also quite a few that are not. They only kill for food. Sharks are part of that group. Whales too. All dolphins (besides Orcas) are surplus killers. Some countires have tried to ban house cats from going outside.Because they would kill birds, mice, etc. Anything they can grab. Just for the fun of it.
Some Bottlenose Dolphins also seem to kill for purposes other than predation.
This is why I love Orcas. They are just like us. Intelligent, powerful, playful, and sometimes cruel.
Killers*
No not at all lol, they're just teaching their young lmao, nature is way more mature than humans are.
@@PureLovable You have no proof that they are somehow morally above humans. The reality is, all animals can be cruel. Intelligence lends to this. Hence, smarter creatures seem more neurotic and evil in their violent actions. It's silly to demonize humans as somehow unique in this sense (or in any sense, honestly - we aren't so special in 99% of cases).
Loving something because it's cruel is a weird take
@@0ihatetrolls01 I think you misunderstood. the cruelness is merely one part of what makes them so similar to us, the similarity being the reason behind op‘s liking of them
Imagine being a sea lion and getting ganged up by predator and when you except to die, they bring in their weakest and youngest to play with you.
Sounds awful
Dolphins in general mostly all do surplus killing, sometimes just for fun it seems. They also use food to bait prey. It's pretty amazing how intelligent they are.
Thank you for this eye-opening video. It's so educational and informative. I need a whole series of this team's work.
Given how leopard seals will play with penguins before killing them, I don't feel sorry when Orcas do the same.
What's mind boggling is the fact that wild orca don't seem to attack humans. Ever.
(Unless someone can find and source an orca attack on a human in the wild)
"So then they're perfect for our exhibits!" -SeaWorld
I think we taste awful to them
Maybe they have killed humans in wild, but there were witnesess 🤔
@@TheSquirrelbeast i'd imagine we're mostly attacked when wearing full black dive suits and gear which would taste awful. naked people would probably taste ok though tbh since orcas are fine with eating other mammals.
Yes it's an amazing thing, they see us and do not attack us. Who knows what they are thinking? I would love to know.
narrator: do not project your moral values on animals
also narrator: projects moral values on animals
Either orcas are good and humans are good, or orcas are bad and humans are bad.
There's no other way to look at it.
Victor Hausen -- agree 100%.
The narrator is a PHOTOGRAPHER, not a marine biologist.
Primates kill other primates, which even Jane Goodall was very reluctant to report.
Like you said, projecting human values onto other life forms is silly. And irrelevant.
Humans and ocras are neither good nor bad because good and bad are imagined concepts.
@@charliecrome207 ho ho! You're conflating subjective values with objective ones. Right and wrong depend on perspective. It is objectively "evil" to murder a mother of four, if you're looking to see how you can justify that, that will only contradict your opinion that good and bad are imaginary because you're using pre-established "rules" of morality, i.e "the mother deserved to die because she killed a person in her youth".
@@awepossum1059 lions also kill animals they don't eat. so does leopards, hyenas, and almost all predators. sometimes, they do it for practice, to teach the young, or just to control population
Killing for sport is not unusual in the animal kingdom. What is unusual is feeling bad about it. That is a uniquely human attribute.
Uhh, I don’t know what planet you live on, but killing for sport is extremely unusual in the animal kingdom. There’s examples of it, yes, but the vast majority don’t. Orcas are terrifying, I would rather be bleeding in open water with a great white than be next to an orca
Very true…what I don’t understand is how our guilt is an evolutionary advantage.
We literally guilt one another to the point of suicide and almost nobody feels bad about that but if I go out and shoot a buck and mount his rack on my door I’m the monster.
Just because I killed him for sport doesn’t mean I didn’t keep the meat and distribute it amongst my friends and family…if these whales kill a sea lion something else will eat it
@@funfun5656 to some extent guilt is an evolutionary advantage. It acts as a deterrent to prevent us from doing things that we think are wrong, such as killing other humans which would be detrimental to our survival. Overtime however because of changing mentalities, quality of life and mental illness what causes people to feel guilt has also changed.
@@funfun5656 as has been pointed out in other comments the more intelligent you are the more your capacity for a wider range of emotions and thoughts. Humans just happened to be the most intelligent. This means we dominated the earth and formed societies that allowed us the opportunity to explore those thoughts and emotions such as guilt.
That's why it's unique. Other animals may exhibit this to a lesser extent and we may not find out.
@@ch4z_bucks It's kind of counterintuitive if evolution truly is king so to speak, with more intelligence, and then more awareness beyond what the human brain is best suited for (we're still primally tribalistic as a species), that more and more people sort of "break apart" on a mental level, and societies face more and more instability because pretty much nothing works for everyone when it comes to social constructs.
It always amazes me that when we humans see our own behaviour in other species, we're horrified. Its almost like the orca are trying to teach us something.
The discount is real. So sad. :(
They're not trying to teach us something they're just jerks
And almost everyone already knows murder is horrible
pretty weird how you called them jerks and how he is calling the act very cruel and uncomfortable to watch when we as humans have been doing something far worse. you know its not because of orcas that so many animals are going extinct and whatnot horrible things are happening to the entire ecosystem
THIS!!
Orcas really do live up to their alternate names of killer whales. Although, they are technically the biggest members of the dolphin family. 🐋 🐬
and the dolphin family is part of the whales. So it's right isn't it?
"killer whales"... because they are KILLERS of whales. They're dolphins who like to prey on whales, but by being a dolphin family, they are also a sub-family of the toothed whale taxonomy
@@BullShitThat Yes. The term 'killer of whales' was an epithet first attributed to them by sailors and whalers of old following observation of that very behaviour. It became condensed over time hence the more recent confusing moniker.
@@Simon-jw1ww same family, different species.
I saw a video yesterday that said weren't Orca named killer whales because people thought they were whales that kill, their name came from them killing whales (Orca asesina ballenas), it translated to Whale Killer then somehow it was inverted because it rolled off the tongue easier.
I used to love these things but the more I find out about them the more like humans they seem and if you're not conflicted about humans then you're not paying attention
Excellent point made. For us humans we can make the choice whether or not to indulge in uneccesary cruelty we are very privileged to have that choice
We’re privileged to be able to choose whether we indulge in unnecessary cruelty?! I find the use of the word privileged to be a strange choice. The word is most often applied to a reward system. To be privileged is to have attained some benefit. I can’t see unnecessary cruelty in this way. These Orca were choosing to teach their young how to survive and thrive by inflicting cruelty upon a different species who are ultimately prey to them. Man no longer needs to teach its young how to survive in the same way, therefore killing prey animals is done for sport and entertainment. Is it any wonder then that humans started killing other humans? Not out of any other reason than a difference of opinion! We don’t share another’s religion, we have massive stockpiles of food whilst elsewhere people are starving, we wage war to steal land and make others bow to our rule. I’m sorry but I don’t count myself as privileged to be human when man mercilessly kills his fellow man.
If cruelty is unnecessary then surely it is a choice to indulge in it? Ergo the orcas also have the choice to indulge in unnecessary cruelty.
Unbelievable. I am reading comments saying Orca are as intelligent as humans, but unlike us they are not 'priviledged' to choose not to do unnecessary cruelty. So why do they get a pass and humans don't?
Orca's have that same ability... they interact with humans just fine in the wild so they obviously pick and choose when to get violent. Orca's have a very high IQ for animals, its odd how sometimes its "animals are smarter than we think" then its some bs like your comment.
I feel like with how intelligent they are they are doing some cruel acts on purpose. Like how some people are very nice and others comment horrible acts, maybe some animals like orcas have that same level of different personalities.
Being at the difficult place & providing us a deep knowledge of they interact & act together, is out of our league. Glad watching very meaningful & realising how life is important. Great work ❤️
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@@sergiokaminotanjo - You don't know how to meme.
@@mokarokas-1727 ok boomer
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@@mokarokas-1727 NO U ;)
They are so intelligent they can grasp death for food and playing with an animal for instruction to there off spring. Truly a brilliant animal, the best of the seas and oceans are Orcas.
0:34 imagine aliens sitting and waiting to watch someone get hit by a car or something like this
He sugarcoated it with the human cruelty in the end. I respect that.
He asked us not to make orca a villain.
@@prshntkumar0000 so he makes us sound like a worse villain... He's a gaslighter. Playing the guilt-trip card.
@@goldreverre indeed
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that in the cases where we find intelligence, we also find cruelty... I wonder if the two are related.
I mean yes they are. In order to process the thoughts of doing something not based on an in built instinct you need higher intelligence. The smarter the species the more they can seperate wants and needs into seperate thoughts.
Jellyfish are cruel.
@@invaderjoshua6280 Correlation does not imply causation.
Is it cruel when u eat also ? Wether it’s meat or veggies it was alive
what was the IQ of the comet that hit Chicxulub Crater?
Those whales that find it enjoyable practice it and engage in it more often, becoming better killers and thereby more effectively passing their genes into future generations. Thus the question of whether it's immediately adaptive (e.g., training the young) versus a by-product of adaptation (e.g., enjoying hunting) is somewhat trivial. The fact that animal predators enjoy hunting should not be a surprising fact other than to those who believe that such amoral feelings only exist in humans.
Actually they are dolphins
@@alcatraz_444 Potato potato.
I believe cats hunt for fun as well
@@flowerwht so do birds. Killing for leisure is a common occurrence in nature but is not palatable on most nature documentaries.
@@alcatraz_444 You know all dolphins are toothed whales, right? Calling them whales is not incorrect.
Being in a kayak in waters filled with Orcas takes balls of steel.
Thanks for this very cool video! I always found this kind of behavior off-putting, because it struck me as cruel as well. But the video got me thinking and it's really not any different from what an average housecat will do to any bug unfortunate enough to cross its path.
superb segment. food for thought, no pun intended. thanks as always
What a mysterious world we inhabit. Thanks to BBC for many invaluable lessons learnt
They’re highly intelligent and of course they need to teach their young how to survive..
Even though the females remain with the pods their whole lives, they still need to learn how to function.
They’re called
the “wolves of the sea”,as they hunt as a pack.
What exactly they were doing with the seal was odd.
I think they were showing their youngsters how to hunt,and tire out your pray.
Yet they didn’t eat it in the end.
As they function as a group,they hunt as a group for bigger prey that will feed the whole pod.
Their usual prey are small whales and whale calves, larger sharks, and elephant seals.
I don’t understand how they said they were out there for so long and has this very detailed narration but don’t have video that shows any of it
Smart animals like them are just like us. Dolphins do terrible things as well, sometimes to each other. Just goes to show that our cruelty probably comes from nature, as does theirs.
Orcas are so good hunters that they often have so much food left untouched after a hunt, they won’t just consider other animals as prey, they will also consider them as toys, they are just such great hunters that food and toys are the same thing to them, they don’t kill because they are desperate, they kill because it’s fun
Maybe they kill for the 'life energy', and when that's extinguished they leave the dead body. Serious. The ones that hunt on the beach are becoming a different species to the ones that don't, the first 'soul-eating' Orcas. Or life-energy eating.
Orcas are serial killers 🤣🤣🤣
Why not show these events if you were there filming it, instead of these generic shots of Orcas?? I really don't get it
The dead seal / sealion would end up being calories for some creature. Nothing in nature goes to waste.
what? you can say the same thing for any killing on this planet
@@alejandrob.4961 Yes. It’s the circle of life. The presenter seemed astonished that the sealion was not going to end up ‘as precious calories’ for the whales. Well so what?
It’ll be precious calories for a scavenger or other marine animals.
@@Knappa22 but if you can apply a category for all things then the category lose is meaning; it would be ok if I kill 1000 elephants and rhinos because flies, worms and other insects and animals could eat those corpses?
@@alejandrob.4961 No because you are a human being, with a conscience and an awareness of concepts like extinction etc. A whale doesn’t.
@@Knappa22 excuses, both humans are other intelligent mammals are creations of nature, if we are bad and evil they are too when they do shitty things
I never judge a nature. Orcas are intelligent and their intelligence is actually scary. Beautiful shoots.
Mom: don't play with your food
Orca: hold my fins
Thank you for the efforts you put to deliver this material. We know so little about the life of whales. Thanks to such expeditions as yours we discover more and more interesting features of whales behavior.
Dolphins.
@Quack 😅
It makes me laugh, we muddle ourselves over the terms; orca are dolphins , some cetaceans are dolphins, some are whales and at the top of it all, all cetaceans are whales 😅
@@whaletale4086 Orcas are dolphins, not whales.
What an incredible intelligent animal the entire whale family is.
Events like these get me thinking how complex life is in this universe and we humans are so negligible yet we tend to think our being on this planet is the most important thing that has no end.
Technically it’s not a whale
orcas aren't whales lol
@@CJ-eg4ok - Orcas are absolutely a form of whale, just like dolphins.
@@mokarokas-1727 no. Dolphins and whales are 2 different species, that's like saying octopus are a form of squid or vice versa.
@@ch4z_bucks - "No." Dolphin is not a single species, and neither is whale. In the formal sense, dolphins belong to the whale family. You can look up the classification.
An amazing understanding of nature is presented here.
I was absolutely captivated by this video. Orcas are such incredible creatures, with their intelligence and complex social structures. It's fascinating to see how they exhibit behaviors that go beyond just survival instincts. This video truly highlights the intricate balance of nature and the harsh realities these animals face in the wild. It's a reminder of the complexities of the natural world and how every species plays a vital role in maintaining its harmony. Truly mesmerizing! 🐋🌿
I've found that when teaching my own young, they don't learn well when they're hungry. I wonder if the orcas picked up on the same idea.
Well, even if they don't eat the animal being killed, something else will come along and eat it, so it doesn't go completely to waste.
it's "awful" when orcas do it, but when human hunters do the same thing for sport it's "normal"
They do it for education. They even do it with seagrass. Orcas can get permanently beached.
I don’t think anyone believes what the orcas are doing is awful
No????? 90% of hunters despise the jerks who go to Africa and hunt things for sport, not to mention the shitloads of non-hunters hating it too. Most hunters eat what they kill.
Very few people in modern society call sport hunting normal or ethical.
I'd go with the opposite of everything you said. Are you from Commiefornia?
Orcas are supposed to do this, by nature. We humans should not hunt for sport, only for food. Or in my case, if there are wasps, noisy mockingbirds, mosquitoes, houseflies, or grackles. Everybody else gets to live.
I've never known a hunter in my life who would torture an animal and prolong its death. Efficient and quick deaths are the norm and what is practiced.
Orcas play with their food to teach the young how to humt same way we play with our children to teach themto walk, grab and talk.
Actually nah. Usually it's adults who indulge in this behavior. They just like to play with their food.
They also have been known to kill prey but only eat specific parts and leave the rest of the carcass. For example: Shark liver and baby sperm whale tongue.
This earned them another nickname: the gourmets of the sea.
@@ChasehaWing - Maybe there's a problem with eating them, like how cats will leave certain organs of a mouse's body on instinct. Anyway, in this instance it seemed to be an exercise in survival against a rival species (which is a threat to their young).
@@mokarokas-1727 No they just like the liver and tongue the best. It just doesn't sit right with people that an animal could be wasteful.
This man seems to be a true human with a high morals in general ❤
The mental contortions people go through to minimize the simple fact that animals can be cruel. Turns out humans didn't invent cruelty either.
What's it like to encounter an animal that's actually smarter than you within its own environment
Orcas are intelligent enough to never go for human kills since they know they might get wiped out ..... that's intelligence at a completely groundbreaking level ...... how they were playing with the humans in their kayaks and then suddenly became predatory for a seal ..... unbelievable .....
Seriously, that shows a very high level of intelligence and cultural memory.
Not true at all. You have zero evidence for that and there's no correlation between human predation and the species being hunt by humans.
Blue Whales never hunted humans and look how we almost drove them to extinction.
Orcas killing humans wouldn't really change anything when it comes to their survival.
This is why I'm terrified of these things
They don’t view humans as food. And they know we are intelligent. That’s why there is no recorded human death in the wild from an Orca. They even kill Great White Sharks for their livers!
There is not a single account of any Orca killing a human. Except in captivity. You _should_ be terrified of Sea World...
Same
they are harmless there are people who swim with them in the wild
I really loved the honesty of this man, great video.
The very first thing out of this guys mouth is that he thinks it's a mistake to compare humans to orcas, followed by a rant about how cruel they are to kill animals and not eat them and then finishes by stating that humans are the worst offenders in that regard, seemingly contradicting his first point.
It's called nature. Plenty of animals will kill for reasons other than food. Watching Orcas take down large prey is an awesome display for sure. Its certainly not a sight for the faint of heart.
Thank you! Steve Backshall is phenomenal, very interesting docu.! its always great to get more knowledge about animals and their behavor - until now i loved the Movie "Free Willy" 💕
Orcas are stunning, they are alpha predators and have the best killing strategie in groups. they can kill big white Sharks !
I'm not 100% on board with this guy's last statement regarding hunting for sport. Yes, there are people who hunt for sport, but even in the vast majority of these cases, they still haul in the kill and either process the meat themselves or have it processed somewhere. And even in places where hunting is very common, it is still a small subset of people who actually go hunting. I grew up in rural indiana and would estimate far less than 5% of people hunted once a year or more, even less than that actually making a kill. Trophies are usually made of heads, antlers, or skins because the rest of the body is being used for meat.
Now there is a small subset of hunters who chase big game in a "predator vs predator" or "man vs beast" kind of thing. They will usually have the entire animal taxidermied, but these guys are far and few between, and only make up a tiny fraction of the hunting population.
This of course is only speaking of modern day. In the olden days we used to kill for food, materials, and defense.
I don't understand why people constantly try to demonize us as a species. Yes, own up to the things we actually did wrong like polluting the planet, or our involvement in deforestation, but you're talking about a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of the human population here, and you're going to put that blame on the entire species? By no means could that behavior be considered commonplace amongst humans.
This video is typical of the BS narrative whereas no species is worse than the horrible, wasteful cruel humans. Nothing is more cruel than wild nature!
tiny fraction? I dont know if you realize but just our consumption, most forms of packaging we use among a plethora of other things end up polluting the most critical ressources we have (Oceans, forests and the fauna and flora that provide us with all nutrients we need) and thereby killing an unkown number of lifeforms.
I'm not a hardcore activist or anything however if you look at how our impact on earth's environement went into crescendo mode in less than a millenia, you can't help but go damn!! And if you think killing for sports and not consuming is what would "demonize" us, you're greatly mistaken. Humans have done, are doing and will keep on doing horrible things to the very ecosystem that allows us to live and "evolve" the way we do and one of the driving factors behind that is the cluelessness of each of us individuals regarding the daily habits and commodities we got used to and the price we are and will be paying for them.
Ofc all I said would need data to back up the context of my answer but hey this is a youtube comment lmao, but I hope people will try to at least research this subject a bit even if it's in the hope of saying i'm wrong and just an alarmist.
@@Topway2 Not what I was talking about. My comment was purely regarding hunting/killing for sport, which was in reference to the claim the guy made in the video. I even mentioned owning up to pollution and deforestation in my comment.
@@robbnoble1509 I was basically answering your question on why put the blame on the entire species but i get your point and as i said hunting for sport is indeed not enough for that.
@@Topway2 Ah, reading back I see how I miscommunicated that. Indeed we do deserve the blame for harming the environment as a whole. The glove just didn't fit on this very specific issue.
Nothing like watching a video of a guy talking about Orcas.
Brilliant video and no false info provieded.
I've seen the aftermath of a wolves pack attacking a sheep herd in a fenced spot at night. Sheep were apparently panicking, broke the gate and ran out. we found the next day about 20 of them killed (throat bites and/or disemboweled) an only one half-eaten. Some sheep alive had massive bite wounds in various places. One shepherd's dog was severely injured and died later. The other dog had manageable wounds. Talking the joy and rage of killing. Or put it nicely: surplus killing.
well that's a pickle. ouch!
but rage, idk. i watch my cats and they don't hate the mouse, they love the mouse... too much for the mouses' good. the wolves probably were more happy and psycho than angry and psycho. like a food fight, a feeding frenzy
except when it came to the dog, they were probably angry at the dog
@Sigrid Kaag wolves in central Asian steppes, as a matter of fact thousands of their generations, know very well sheep. The "semi-zoo" predator situation in the Netherlands, or even Germany, is not comparable.
I thoroughly enjoy the attitude in western postmodern societies to humanize animals and to excuse and to justify "animalistic" behavior )))
Same story with a fox in a chicken coop. After it kills the first chicken, the wing flapping and movements of the other chickens will continuously trigger its killing instinct until all the chickens are dead.
It’s really cool to see the orcas behavior especially like this one with teaching youngsters how to hunt .Although it does leave carcasses that’s food for other animals to eat
Great point! That’s the way I see it when my cat catches small prey. Some people bury their “gifts” but I leave them for the other little animals who might be in need of a meal.
It's truly a sick means of teaching. The way that orcas hunt and learn is really wretched, but I mean that's what happens in the natural world when a species has such a surplus of intelligence, and because their hunting technique is so efficient they are able to squander as many opportunities as they wish. Leaving room for brutal things such as killing without nourishment in mind.
Also with the idea of evolution in mind: it is peculiar to think about how intelligent species such as chimps, orcas, orangutans, and elephants would have developed without us (homo sapiens) taking the place of the dominant species. I mean most of the aforementioned can form tight social bonds, and work in family units well with the exception of orangutans which have a prolonged teaching period for the first 10 or so years of their lives. I mean it was theorized that dinosaurs given the time could have became rather humanoid. They were really some of the first species to sport bipeadalism effectively, so without the to drastic to adapt to weather fluctuations, and other extinction level threats they could have kept mammals in check and risen to take our place. So why could the same not be said of today's modern species? I mean it's just a wild thought...
Sick, wretched, brutal. All human concepts that don't apply to anything outside of our minds. You're being a little silly projecting all that onto a wild animal with a completely different mind and culture.
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Yeah they should just pull up a youtube video of how to do it... wait.
@@Ki_Adi_Mundi yeah um okay but last time I checked orcas didn't have a specified culture which has a definition that is almost entirely in relation to human achievement, customs, and art. Sorry though I guess your right in some aspects I don't mean to strike up an argument. Also I strive to be silly so thanks for the validation lol😋
@@buckalbert5212 Exactly how much research did you put in, checking orcas culture? You said you checked.
@@simpleman283 well it is just a figure of speech I'm saying that the definition of culture relates to human achievement, customs and art. Meaning that the word has no viable application in regards to orcas in the same way that sick, wretched, and brutal have no relevancy in regards to orcas sorry if this is perceived as me being annoyed or annoying its hard to slip a tone into a typed message 😅
For a species that not only "kills" for food, but also enjoys capturing animals to keep them in captivity, humans are a species that feels quite empowered to make moral judgments about cruelty.
I'm not sure who that man is but I thoroughly enjoyed that..thank you for your hard work and dedication to your craft to be able to bring such informative entertainment to the masses...
Poor sea lion he paid the price for family teaching! Nature is amazing but can be cruel, just like us humans, we are so much alike.
Great video ~ he got it right!
@KAROON BOOMIE It is not cruel when they are starving, and also teaching their infants how to eat. That is the way they eat, unlike us humans. Sometimes, the infants don't want to eat it.
Yes truly we, human being are masters of killing surplus.
We're the masters of the energy surplus
I think he’s kinda humanizing orcas when he just goes with a kayak into the water and thinks they won’t see him as the next toy to play with 😅
Though I agree with you that it's dangerous but orcas don't really attack humans in the wild for some reason
If the Orcas ever get together and decide to extract revenge for Sea World, humans will never be able to enter the ocean again.
2:18 Bro lost me at "...and we went out on our sea kayaks and paddled alongside them." Oh hell no.
Humans used to do this thousands of years ago. And some tribes around the world STILL do…
It’s a predatory instinct and game. That’s what top tear predators do.
The people who anthropomorphize these things to the point where they call them "Bad Natured" for being exactly what they're supposed to be seem like the same kind of people who anthropomorphize bears while completely ignoring the brutal things they do sometimes as well. Ignorant.
Almost all nature documentaries are like that
I just wish they hadn't used the title "Bad Natured." Again, it is us humans assigning our own values onto Nature. And, calling their behavior _bad_ can have devastating effects on the orca, as some humans will use the term as an excuse to harm them.
how does people come up with these feel good nonsense....I am sure you must have been laughing while u were writing these.
some humans will use the term as an excuse to harm them"...like let's go to harm orcas nearby home.
Thank you very much, this is very educational. Please continue with your great work.
2:19 maybe for training purposes? as it’s very difficult to go out of water to the beach and then come back?
Strange to hear that from a man who spends a lot of time in nature. I have grown up in mountains. We have an animal breeding business. The main enemy was a wolf, not a bear because the wolf will kill all sheep when he attacks without eating them. It can be 10-20 animals at a time. I love Orcas. Watched them in wild. They are beautiful and intelligent animals. I think they are doing it for a purpose like a wolf.
When animal do good things
Animal lovers: Oh look! Animals have compassion too. How cute! 😍
When animals do bad things
Animal lovers: It's not their fault! They don't know what is bad or good! 😠
Fr bro I hate those kinds of people who always think of animals as so much morally better than us and almost seem to have a hatred for humanity. They're in the comment sections of almost every animal-related video.
@@mosterchife6045 This.
People would say this is a sick method to teach, but it's just another way of imposing anthropocentric values on animals. We might be cruel too in Orcan Law book😌
Most fascinating video I've watched. Thank you
The BBC is amazing when it's not producing the news.
I feel like if you removed the context of what the two species were, you could easily assume this was about humans. Every time he mentioned the orcas I would replace it with human in my head, and nothing said is abnormal to our behaviour. Obviously the slapping your tails part but still. I personal dislike the idea of hunting for any other reason then food, I also believe if you are able to hunt less or stop hunting. Their are obvious excepts, such as indigenous peoples and people living remote unable to get a steady access of food to survive. We already take up so much space ourselves, including farms that are overly saturated with space and unnecessary livestock that could be replaced with plants which are overall better for you, and the environment and take less space and consume less. Livestock consume roughly 40% of our grains and cereals, yet don’t produce a quarter of our calorie intake. Went on a little tangent, but raising animals to be killed and eaten is uniquely human and uniquely cruel. “The animals don’t know better”, they don’t know because they were never given a chance to know, that justifies nothing. If someone is told all their life that something inhibits them, when in fact naturally it doesn’t exist, that is wrong. We need to stop treating animals and our environment as ours, it is not our possession, we did not make it, we weren’t here first, and we will not be here after it. It will surpass us, when there is nothing but a blade of grass left, we will have been gone for an unfathomable time.
Tell me please, what do you care if someone shoots a deer and eats it over a cow killed in the stall? The deer has a chance to outsmart the hunter. Serious hypocrites out there.
I have, with my father, been fishing in British Columbia, over on the ocean side of Vancouver Island, mainly the Barkley Sound area, it looks like some of the same area where your video footage was taken, beautiful place to fish. When the Orcas come into the sound we stop fishing because the salmon hide from the Orcas. We have had Orcas swim along and under our boat, makes your 22 foot boat look like a toy, they are magnificent creatures. I do have to disagree with one little comment you made towards the end of the video. You stated that the Orcas were not the only mammals to kill for sport, that man was worse. 0ne hundred percent of Orcas participate in such activities where only a few humans do, it looks like the Orcas are worse, of course you can't reason with a Orca.
Just like a cat!
In my humble opinion, it sounds like a school lesson for young Orcas. They educating their youngsters.
It's like an open university in the sea.
"Hey guys, we got another customer: PLAY BALL!"
Um, since we are attempting to measure the cruelty of these orcas by comparing them to human actions and reactions, I'd like to point out that most of the human population gets its food from means thousands of times more cruel than what is displayed in this video at the expense of other animals. I'd go so far as to bet the energy these scientists were operating on was produced by means of domestication of other animals which is inherently cruel depending on the perspective used to measure such things. We have an incredible capacity to ignore reality for the sake of a calm yet ignorant inner dialogue.
found the vegan
@@todgerino3475 *Sigh* Takes the time to reply to a comment but doesn't actually discuss anything. Just pumps out meme after meme.
@@marcbehringer8977 vegan intensifies
@@todgerino3475 Domesticated human makes more noise.
"domestication of other animals which is inherently cruel" Not in my opinion. Domesticated animals live longer, safer, more comfortable lives than their wild counterparts. Their deaths are instantaneous and much less terrifying than the deaths of their wild counterparts and they don't live their lives constantly on the brink of starvation.
Orcas to humans…”Mind your f’ing business” 🤣🤣🤣
Mammal cousins? My ass. That’s not my cousins 😆
Maybe yours. 😂
Orcas are absolutely beautiful and intelligent. Next to Grizzly Bears they are my favorite.
If you've ever been in a kayak (this video appears to be from a tourist) - you know the Orca would eat you in 1 second if the wished. Me & my wife watched Orcas in WA state hunt at sunset. It was so fast (they were 10-25 mph) - the male orcas had fins 6' tall & you just went "whoooa. These cousins are closely related to us (in both biologic & mental components) - I truly hope they survive. Perhaps they will tell the story of those land-beings-turned-incinerated-wastelings.
my dog digs up gophers, plays around and eventually kills it but doesn’t eat it
RUclips be like do you wanna see a disturbing a video of orcas killing a baby seal
I love how he turns it around and suddenly, humans are worse. You gotta love those generalizations.
Humans ARE worse. Lmfao
What an excellent video!
Thank you.
Very interesting video‼️. Thank you.