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  • Опубликовано: 18 апр 2022
  • While filming orcas, Steve Backshall witnessed them hunting and killing prey, but not for food. He explains why they do this and how he’s processed this disturbing behaviour.
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  • @superfly19751
    @superfly19751 2 года назад +4156

    I found it incredibly fortunate and such a blessing l, and delightful that Orcas are incredibly intelligent, they recognize human and don’t prey on us. Otherwise they would be 100x scarier than sharks.

    • @Rizzbulla
      @Rizzbulla 2 года назад

      They're so smart they know they'll get fucked up if they eat humans. They know we'll hunt them to extinction.

    • @Hansulf
      @Hansulf 2 года назад +287

      But then they would already be extint and there would not be any video about orcas killing for sport.

    • @mikethescienceguy
      @mikethescienceguy 2 года назад

      I believe it might be because the orcas see us as a source of food rather than food itself. Orcas have been known for stealing fish caught by fishermen

    • @einseinstein572
      @einseinstein572 2 года назад +492

      Its not fortune, its smarts.
      If they predated humans theyd be dead.

    • @TTCS
      @TTCS 2 года назад +126

      @@einseinstein572 in theory, in modern times yeah, drop a depth charge on em and bam, whale oil. Back in 17-1800 eh, could go either way. We dont go unnecessarily killing sharks because there is 8 shark attacks a year.

  • @noneofyourbuisness1679
    @noneofyourbuisness1679 2 года назад +3462

    I think the reason people find this so "dark" or "disturbing" is because we're so use to distinguishing ourselves from other animals. For the longest time, we thought that we were something truly unique. But then we find animals using tools, displaying emotions, solving complex problems, developing cultures, and even languages. And we accept it because it appears so innocent on the surface, almost like watching a baby learn how to talk and whatnot; we see them as a counterpart to ourselves.
    But then we see things like this, killing for sport or education, and we're scared because it forces us to contend with a part of ourselves that we don't like or condemn. We lambast war and killing of others, and yet animals do this, too. And we're afraid because it's like learning that the aforementioned baby has some how killed someone when you weren't looking. We're so use to being set apart from the rest that finding another species - and on our own planet, no less - that shares so many parallels to us is truly unnerving to some.

    • @biokosmos
      @biokosmos 2 года назад +150

      I agree.. WE are all animals, so any sentient being is a individual can be bad, good, generous, stupid, curious etc etc

    • @L.P.1987
      @L.P.1987 2 года назад +24

      Like #100. Amazing comment.

    • @prishanitin1176
      @prishanitin1176 2 года назад +15

      So true..
      I've noticed this often.

    • @bigmoe9856
      @bigmoe9856 2 года назад +58

      People can't make up their minds, either they think humans are fools that have turned from Nature's Grace or that we're sheperds who're supposed to guide the _innocent_ animals because *we know better.*

    • @astick5249
      @astick5249 2 года назад +61

      But in reality we just have to accept the fact that we are animals, and that its quite useless to distinguish ourselves in the way we do

  • @nethravathidr
    @nethravathidr 2 года назад +41

    The way you narrated this video, I could totally see lot of emotions. I can listen your content even without any video/pictures. Just amazing how naturally it comes out!

  • @rottweilerfun9520
    @rottweilerfun9520 2 года назад +171

    If they don't train their young , they could starve to death someday. That's pretty rough too. The fish and crabs will feast on the dead , nothing goes to waste in nature.

    • @HughMorristheJoker
      @HughMorristheJoker 2 года назад +4

      Nothing goes to waste, except all life

    • @bradleywoods3742
      @bradleywoods3742 Год назад +2

      True, but why don't they eat it? Also this doesn't explain the videos of orca ive seen when they launch seals 40ft into the sky, they really are just having fun with their "food"

    • @Pedro_Le_Chef
      @Pedro_Le_Chef Год назад +6

      You can make the argument for humans needlessly killing other animals though
      "They are just leaving them to other organisms to nourish themselves!"
      Lets call it what it is: cruelty.
      And that's fine. We are cruel, chimps are cruel, orcas are cruel, it is simply reality.

  • @toradora1439
    @toradora1439 2 года назад +889

    During the Narrative of this video and how he was conflicted about the actions of the Orca killing for sport, it made me think how an extraterrestrial would observe Human behavior and the thought process they might have in that observation.
    Im glad that they were objective enough to admit it in the end.

    • @sarahmottramart
      @sarahmottramart 2 года назад +65

      Yes, imagine an objective observation on feedlock farms & slaughter houses.
      Industry of killing. child trafficing.
      Humans have the worst conduct

    • @Hansulf
      @Hansulf 2 года назад +2

      And imagine if after that they also thought about them beeing the master of sport hunting.

    • @barbm2375
      @barbm2375 2 года назад +3

      Well said, and I agree 1000%

    • @deecurt
      @deecurt 2 года назад

      Tora Dora what fucking Extraterrestrial? I need the name of that strain of gas you smoking

    • @Krosis_
      @Krosis_ 2 года назад +18

      @@sarahmottramart "Humans have the worst conduct"
      The worst conduct compared to what and according to whom?

  • @sphinxrising1129
    @sphinxrising1129 2 года назад +858

    My parents took me to a rather large zoo when I was small, & after viewing all the animals, near the exit was a group of peep holes where you could look at some of the smaller animals in their natural habitat without being seen by the animals. The last peep hole was listed as the most dangerous animal in the world. When I looked in it, I seen a reflection of myself.

  • @timp1293
    @timp1293 Год назад +664

    Orcas are highly intelligent and therefore have complex behavior. They kill not just for food, but also for teaching their young, and for playing, which we perceive as cruelty. And the fact that they sometimes let their prey go free could also mean that they have compassion when there’s no need for food. They are absolutely fascinating.

    • @lo-firobotboy7112
      @lo-firobotboy7112 Год назад +52

      I don't see it as cruelty. Also, the carcasses the orca leave behind go on to provide food for other animals in the eco-system. In fact, the off-shore orca the feed primarily on large sharks, eat only the livers and leave the rest of the animal to drop down through the water column providing nutrients to myriad creatures.
      The premise of this little snippet of a documentary is problematic.

    • @ARod-br2ui
      @ARod-br2ui Год назад +13

      I seen a documentary about preying on the seals on the beach. This particular documentary showed them playing and tossing a baby seal for a while. Then when they were done playing with it, they bought back to shore unharmed and just released it.

    • @sheene71
      @sheene71 Год назад +2

      CALLED SURVIVAL !!!! ALL IT IS

    • @dan4461
      @dan4461 Год назад +6

      cats play all the time. are they intelligent?

    • @Pedro_Le_Chef
      @Pedro_Le_Chef Год назад +10

      @@lo-firobotboy7112 Exactly. Just like humans used to decimate bisons in America and leave their carcass almost untouched so other little animals could profit from it.

  • @nxva8726
    @nxva8726 2 года назад +11

    🐋 1= "Some human is telling us we have disturbing behaviour"
    🐋 2 = "That sounds human to me"

    • @macpheemusic4294
      @macpheemusic4294 2 года назад +1

      *Human proceeds to lock 🐋 1 in the equivalent of a concrete broom closet for the rest of it's short, depressed life and force it to do tricks for food.

  • @ColumbiaB
    @ColumbiaB 2 года назад +626

    There are a number of predator animals that sometimes “play” with their prey without killing it, or kill prey without eating them (at least immediately). Cat species, and mustelid species, are other prominent examples. Behavioral ecologists speculate that there may be a survival advantage conferred by behaviors that give animals opportunities to practice their own predatory activities, or teach them to their young.
    Accordingly, some animals seem to have evolved so that the bond between their instinct to hunt and attack, and their urge to kill and eat, has become somewhat attenuated. It’s not become so loose that the animals fail to eat altogether, and thus starve to death, but it’s become loose enough that at times the predators don’t kill immediately, and thereby give themselves those opportunities to practice, or teach.

    • @synbiosblade
      @synbiosblade 2 года назад +27

      I have to imagine any successful hunter doesnt get that way strictly by survival hunting. Imagine if the only time you cooked food was when you were starving. Your capabilites would be diminished compared to practicing while well rested and fed.
      Or a better analogy is if football players only every played while it was during a televised game.
      There is even more merit to practicing the thing that literally keeps you alive. And no food ever goes to waste in the wild something will happily come along and finish off an easy meal.

    • @Teekles
      @Teekles 2 года назад +4

      I think they might also be using the young to taunt the parents into defending it and getting a bigger meal

    • @rebeccanagawa3253
      @rebeccanagawa3253 2 года назад +8

      There's this cat that used to bring us half dead birds and lizards in the house. Blood everywhere. I think he was gifting.

    • @Salted_Fysh
      @Salted_Fysh 2 года назад +9

      Ooooor... They could just enjoy doing it.
      To a predator a living being that reacts to your actions must be a fun toy. Remember that almost all of the species you named are explicitly species capable of engaging in games just for the sake of it.
      And I will bring it back to the point at the end. Humans as a predatory species are also able to enjoy killing for sport and taking their time with it. In fact a lot of people do even if they make up reasons to convince themselves otherwise because it's frowned upon in our society.

    • @ColumbiaB
      @ColumbiaB 2 года назад +4

      @@Salted_Fysh - It is less likely that the capacity to enjoy that activity arose randomly and gratuitously as a trait widely found among individuals of a species, than that it was selected for, because it conferred advantages in survival and reproduction.

  • @saintsataniko2116
    @saintsataniko2116 2 года назад +72

    This was fascinating. I've seen a lot of video of orca seemingly just killing for fun, the concept that they stringently compartmentalize everything, including teaching their young to hunt is interesting.

    • @rachel8904
      @rachel8904 Год назад

      Orcas are life long learners. They never stop even creating different ways to kill for the survival of the pod. The actual kill for food, the kill to teach the young, etc.Many animals besides humans are surplus killers. There are also quite a few that are not. They only kill for food. Sharks are part of that group. Whales too. All dolphins (besides Orcas) are surplus killers. Some countires have tried to ban house cats from going outside.Because they would kill birds, mice, etc. Anything they can grab. Just for the fun of it.

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 Год назад

      Some Bottlenose Dolphins also seem to kill for purposes other than predation.

  • @nakayumoto2697
    @nakayumoto2697 Год назад +10

    Thank you for this eye-opening video. It's so educational and informative. I need a whole series of this team's work.

  • @tonybu7529
    @tonybu7529 2 года назад +15

    “I bet you don’t dare get on the shore and snitch that seal.”
    “Hold my pufferfish.”

  • @bettybunbun9664
    @bettybunbun9664 2 года назад +36

    Given how leopard seals will play with penguins before killing them, I don't feel sorry when Orcas do the same.

  • @WildlifeThroughLens
    @WildlifeThroughLens 2 года назад +488

    Orcas are highly intelligent, social and ferocious predators. Incredible creatures 💙

    • @user-fw2wg6rk6l
      @user-fw2wg6rk6l 2 года назад

      they're not ferocious. sharks are ferocious. orcas are sick and twisted, like serial killers.

    • @Salty0
      @Salty0 2 года назад +3

      @@Park-vq1gn that's as anthropocentric as it gets

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 2 года назад +6

      @@Park-vq1gn Is it really bullying though?
      If they were doing it to each other in the wild you could say as much - but as far as I am aware they only do this in captivity, and usually simply because the idiot water park managers mix and match the orcas that have been raised separately, which is as good as throwing complete strangers in prison together and hoping that they wont tear each other to pieces without guards capable of stopping them.
      Orca probably do not see it as bullying or cruel when it is not their own kind though.
      The fact that they seem to be somewhere between playful and curious with humans in the wild only goes to show that we are simply outside their natural order - they do not see us as food clearly, and the curiosity likely stems from our non native appearance in and around the water.

    • @0111mango
      @0111mango 2 года назад

      I hate them now

    • @LarryWater
      @LarryWater 2 года назад

      Any animals can be a bully.

  • @WestMountainWolf
    @WestMountainWolf 2 года назад +1

    I really loved the honesty of this man, great video.

  • @laurapei420
    @laurapei420 Год назад +21

    Thanks for this very cool video! I always found this kind of behavior off-putting, because it struck me as cruel as well. But the video got me thinking and it's really not any different from what an average housecat will do to any bug unfortunate enough to cross its path.

  • @atultripathi8014
    @atultripathi8014 2 года назад +63

    Being at the difficult place & providing us a deep knowledge of they interact & act together, is out of our league. Glad watching very meaningful & realising how life is important. Great work ❤️

  • @victor.hausen
    @victor.hausen 2 года назад +99

    narrator: do not project your moral values on animals
    also narrator: projects moral values on animals

    • @awepossum1059
      @awepossum1059 2 года назад +10

      Either orcas are good and humans are good, or orcas are bad and humans are bad.
      There's no other way to look at it.

    • @OceanSwimmer
      @OceanSwimmer 2 года назад +4

      Victor Hausen -- agree 100%.
      The narrator is a PHOTOGRAPHER, not a marine biologist.
      Primates kill other primates, which even Jane Goodall was very reluctant to report.
      Like you said, projecting human values onto other life forms is silly. And irrelevant.

    • @charliecrome207
      @charliecrome207 2 года назад +9

      Humans and ocras are neither good nor bad because good and bad are imagined concepts.

    • @theinfernoburns
      @theinfernoburns 2 года назад

      @@charliecrome207 ho ho! You're conflating subjective values with objective ones. Right and wrong depend on perspective. It is objectively "evil" to murder a mother of four, if you're looking to see how you can justify that, that will only contradict your opinion that good and bad are imaginary because you're using pre-established "rules" of morality, i.e "the mother deserved to die because she killed a person in her youth".

    • @bern9642
      @bern9642 2 года назад

      @@awepossum1059 lions also kill animals they don't eat. so does leopards, hyenas, and almost all predators. sometimes, they do it for practice, to teach the young, or just to control population

  • @MermaidMama360
    @MermaidMama360 Год назад +1

    Brilliant video and no false info provieded.

  • @annejones8777
    @annejones8777 Год назад

    Most fascinating video I've watched. Thank you

  • @deancaleb1741
    @deancaleb1741 2 года назад +16

    Imagine being a sea lion and getting ganged up by predator and when you except to die, they bring in their weakest and youngest to play with you.

  • @moanamaree
    @moanamaree 2 года назад +83

    Glad you’re still out journeying with nature and the wildlife Steve. Your growth throughout the years is tremendous 🌻

  • @FalconFastest123
    @FalconFastest123 2 года назад +62

    Killing for sport is not unusual in the animal kingdom. What is unusual is feeling bad about it. That is a uniquely human attribute.

    • @biggusdickus1792
      @biggusdickus1792 Год назад

      Uhh, I don’t know what planet you live on, but killing for sport is extremely unusual in the animal kingdom. There’s examples of it, yes, but the vast majority don’t. Orcas are terrifying, I would rather be bleeding in open water with a great white than be next to an orca

    • @funfun5656
      @funfun5656 Год назад +1

      Very true…what I don’t understand is how our guilt is an evolutionary advantage.
      We literally guilt one another to the point of suicide and almost nobody feels bad about that but if I go out and shoot a buck and mount his rack on my door I’m the monster.
      Just because I killed him for sport doesn’t mean I didn’t keep the meat and distribute it amongst my friends and family…if these whales kill a sea lion something else will eat it

    • @ch4z_bucks
      @ch4z_bucks Год назад +6

      ​@@funfun5656 to some extent guilt is an evolutionary advantage. It acts as a deterrent to prevent us from doing things that we think are wrong, such as killing other humans which would be detrimental to our survival. Overtime however because of changing mentalities, quality of life and mental illness what causes people to feel guilt has also changed.

    • @e-ben616
      @e-ben616 Год назад +1

      ​@@funfun5656 as has been pointed out in other comments the more intelligent you are the more your capacity for a wider range of emotions and thoughts. Humans just happened to be the most intelligent. This means we dominated the earth and formed societies that allowed us the opportunity to explore those thoughts and emotions such as guilt.
      That's why it's unique. Other animals may exhibit this to a lesser extent and we may not find out.

    • @Joppi1992
      @Joppi1992 2 месяца назад

      @@ch4z_bucks It's kind of counterintuitive if evolution truly is king so to speak, with more intelligence, and then more awareness beyond what the human brain is best suited for (we're still primally tribalistic as a species), that more and more people sort of "break apart" on a mental level, and societies face more and more instability because pretty much nothing works for everyone when it comes to social constructs.

  • @Lotschi
    @Lotschi Год назад

    What an excellent video!
    Thank you.

  • @jewelbowen2714
    @jewelbowen2714 2 года назад +6

    What a mysterious world we inhabit. Thanks to BBC for many invaluable lessons learnt

  • @bridge4
    @bridge4 2 года назад +41

    superb segment. food for thought, no pun intended. thanks as always

  • @cedarmanagement2343
    @cedarmanagement2343 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much, this is very educational. Please continue with your great work.

  • @Rolandais
    @Rolandais 2 года назад +25

    I feel like, when people go "Why would any Animal do X?" the first question should be. "Why would I do X?" Because, like other animals, we do things for reasons other than food.

  • @FatherManus
    @FatherManus 2 года назад +117

    This is why I love Orcas. They are just like us. Intelligent, powerful, playful, and sometimes cruel.

    • @defnot.emily_
      @defnot.emily_ 2 года назад +2

      Killers*

    • @PureLovable
      @PureLovable 2 года назад +2

      No not at all lol, they're just teaching their young lmao, nature is way more mature than humans are.

    • @jht3fougifh393
      @jht3fougifh393 2 года назад +39

      @@PureLovable You have no proof that they are somehow morally above humans. The reality is, all animals can be cruel. Intelligence lends to this. Hence, smarter creatures seem more neurotic and evil in their violent actions. It's silly to demonize humans as somehow unique in this sense (or in any sense, honestly - we aren't so special in 99% of cases).

    • @0ihatetrolls01
      @0ihatetrolls01 2 года назад +6

      Loving something because it's cruel is a weird take

    • @justsaying6341
      @justsaying6341 2 года назад +2

      @@0ihatetrolls01 I think you misunderstood. the cruelness is merely one part of what makes them so similar to us, the similarity being the reason behind op‘s liking of them

  • @jamesdooling4139
    @jamesdooling4139 2 года назад +7

    An amazing understanding of nature is presented here.

  • @Jdubayou
    @Jdubayou 9 месяцев назад +2

    Being in a kayak in waters filled with Orcas takes balls of steel.

  • @13thravenpurple94
    @13thravenpurple94 Год назад

    Great work 🥳 Thank you 💜

  • @WingedDynamite
    @WingedDynamite 2 года назад +46

    What's mind boggling is the fact that wild orca don't seem to attack humans. Ever.
    (Unless someone can find and source an orca attack on a human in the wild)

    • @blakeestes
      @blakeestes 2 года назад +7

      "So then they're perfect for our exhibits!" -SeaWorld

    • @TheSquirrelbeast
      @TheSquirrelbeast 2 года назад +20

      I think we taste awful to them

    • @mr.sudbury3856
      @mr.sudbury3856 2 года назад +5

      Maybe they have killed humans in wild, but there were witnesess 🤔

    • @JiantJames
      @JiantJames 2 года назад

      @@TheSquirrelbeast i'd imagine we're mostly attacked when wearing full black dive suits and gear which would taste awful. naked people would probably taste ok though tbh since orcas are fine with eating other mammals.

    • @blucat4
      @blucat4 2 года назад +4

      Yes it's an amazing thing, they see us and do not attack us. Who knows what they are thinking? I would love to know.

  • @grimeto7323
    @grimeto7323 2 года назад +192

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that in the cases where we find intelligence, we also find cruelty... I wonder if the two are related.

    • @invaderjoshua6280
      @invaderjoshua6280 2 года назад +38

      I mean yes they are. In order to process the thoughts of doing something not based on an in built instinct you need higher intelligence. The smarter the species the more they can seperate wants and needs into seperate thoughts.

    • @LarryWater
      @LarryWater 2 года назад +5

      Jellyfish are cruel.

    • @KD-sz5bx
      @KD-sz5bx 2 года назад +12

      @@invaderjoshua6280 Correlation does not imply causation.

    • @UUMRSN
      @UUMRSN 2 года назад +1

      Is it cruel when u eat also ? Wether it’s meat or veggies it was alive

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 2 года назад +2

      what was the IQ of the comet that hit Chicxulub Crater?

  • @ecor17
    @ecor17 Год назад

    What a fantastic way of explanation

  • @carolmartin3535
    @carolmartin3535 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for this commentary i have been a huge orca lover since a very young child and their behavior is truly their behavior and we need to leave it at that. They are constantly having to adjust and adapt to their worlds. So bravo!!!❤

  • @adriannalundasan7570
    @adriannalundasan7570 2 года назад +10

    He sugarcoated it with the human cruelty in the end. I respect that.

    • @prshntkumar0000
      @prshntkumar0000 2 года назад +1

      He asked us not to make orca a villain.

    • @goldreverre
      @goldreverre 13 дней назад

      @@prshntkumar0000 so he makes us sound like a worse villain... He's a gaslighter. Playing the guilt-trip card.

    • @prshntkumar0000
      @prshntkumar0000 13 дней назад

      @@goldreverre indeed

  • @whaletale4086
    @whaletale4086 2 года назад +50

    Thank you for the efforts you put to deliver this material. We know so little about the life of whales. Thanks to such expeditions as yours we discover more and more interesting features of whales behavior.

    • @invaderjoshua6280
      @invaderjoshua6280 2 года назад

      Dolphins.

    • @whaletale4086
      @whaletale4086 2 года назад

      @Quack 😅

    • @emmariley5514
      @emmariley5514 2 года назад +1

      It makes me laugh, we muddle ourselves over the terms; orca are dolphins , some cetaceans are dolphins, some are whales and at the top of it all, all cetaceans are whales 😅

    • @ShiningGalaxy01
      @ShiningGalaxy01 Год назад

      @@whaletale4086 Orcas are dolphins, not whales.

  • @agustindetlefsen6944
    @agustindetlefsen6944 Год назад

    Excellent video

  • @ericbruscoe5956
    @ericbruscoe5956 Год назад +2

    I'm not sure who that man is but I thoroughly enjoyed that..thank you for your hard work and dedication to your craft to be able to bring such informative entertainment to the masses...

  • @nswanberg
    @nswanberg 2 года назад +26

    They are called killer whales for a reason.
    Sea lions hunt penguins and don't eat them.

  • @nathansharma87
    @nathansharma87 2 года назад +216

    There's a video in Patagonia where grandma Orca is left with two baby Orca's and she takes them to the bay where they breach for seals.
    She used a clump of seaweed or kelp and brought it up to the sand, then sat in the swell timing the waves and breached catching the seaweed.
    She then brought the seaweed out further away from the beach but still close and the babies had turns with grandma next to them breaching and catching the seaweed.
    She brought the seaweed closer and closer until it was on the beach again but this time the baby male was too scared so they left.
    It's all training, I've also watched another video where different pods who hunt differently usually will teach each other how to catch their local prey and help each other out.

    • @ChicagoScorpion
      @ChicagoScorpion 2 года назад +8

      That's amazing

    • @p5eudo883
      @p5eudo883 2 года назад

      @@paddor If you're going to point out the error, at least provide the correction. That way you'd be doing something helpful, rather than looking like a jackass who gets off on pointing out small mistakes others make.

    • @spicyshizz2850
      @spicyshizz2850 2 года назад +1

      “It’s all training” the anime is still killed tho..

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 2 года назад +7

      wow!!! the mom is using multimedia to demonstrate job skills. home schooling A+

    • @strauss7151
      @strauss7151 Год назад

      Its Beaching, not breaching. It's called that because they come and lay on the beach to catch prey.

  • @garyezard7512
    @garyezard7512 Год назад

    Well put

  • @jackieholmes8098
    @jackieholmes8098 Год назад

    Very interesting video‼️. Thank you.

  • @NightShadow720
    @NightShadow720 2 года назад +144

    Orcas really do live up to their alternate names of killer whales. Although, they are technically the biggest members of the dolphin family. 🐋 🐬

    • @Simon-jw1ww
      @Simon-jw1ww 2 года назад +18

      and the dolphin family is part of the whales. So it's right isn't it?

    • @DemoWarlock
      @DemoWarlock 2 года назад +9

      @@Simon-jw1ww yep dolphins are just toothed whales

    • @BullShitThat
      @BullShitThat 2 года назад +14

      "killer whales"... because they are KILLERS of whales. They're dolphins who like to prey on whales, but by being a dolphin family, they are also a sub-family of the toothed whale taxonomy

    • @johnanthonyp
      @johnanthonyp 2 года назад +1

      @@BullShitThat Yes. The term 'killer of whales' was an epithet first attributed to them by sailors and whalers of old following observation of that very behaviour. It became condensed over time hence the more recent confusing moniker.

    • @Querencia7779
      @Querencia7779 2 года назад +1

      @@Simon-jw1ww same family, different species.

  • @user-th2cp8uh8r
    @user-th2cp8uh8r Год назад +208

    The fascinating thing about these animals is that it recognizes that it isn't the apex predator. They taught their young pretty well that humans are the most dangerous and that they know that if they attack human, humans will see them as a threat. Surprisingly, orcas don't hold a grudge on the whole species when attacked but instead, they remember that single individual and they know that humans are different from each other.

    • @trvth1s
      @trvth1s Год назад +25

      All vertebrates are like that. I had a frog and a bird scared of other people but not scared of me.
      Orcas inherited the oceans so it's their turn to rule the blues. They still avoid adult bull sperm whales for whatever reason. The bull sperm whales are far larger than the females and are very aggressive so maybe that is the reason, or maybe it's genetic ptsd from when the mighty levyiatan [sperm whales cousin] and the mighty megaladons hunted orcas.

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 Год назад

      Well said. What the Orca loving doofuses commenting on this video don't understand is if humankind chose to make it a priority, we could wipe-out Killer Whales world wide in a short span of time. They are not deep divers and can be easily tracked on sonar. Then corraled just as the aquarium trade used to do, and finished off. I would never want to see that happen, but I am just fed-up with idiots who think Orcas are some kind super animal that can sink a navy destroyer with a few bites.

    • @sudokuacrobatics
      @sudokuacrobatics 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@trvth1s same situation like you but inverted

    • @forallthestupidshit3550
      @forallthestupidshit3550 11 месяцев назад

      You did exactly what the guy speaking said was a mistake, in that you anthropomorphised their behavior. Orcas have been known to save humans in the wild. They do not fear humans, nor are humans "apex predators." Guns, maybe. But not humans.

    • @Goldstone93
      @Goldstone93 11 месяцев назад +1

      “Ye may kill for yourselves, and your mates, and your cubs as they need, and ye can;
      But kill not for pleasure of killing, and seven times never kill Man!”

  • @tranquilrabies
    @tranquilrabies Год назад

    This guy is an amazing storyteller!

  • @KingTrunkzdbz
    @KingTrunkzdbz 2 года назад +9

    They are so intelligent they can grasp death for food and playing with an animal for instruction to there off spring. Truly a brilliant animal, the best of the seas and oceans are Orcas.

  • @lestat6789
    @lestat6789 2 года назад +51

    Excellent point made. For us humans we can make the choice whether or not to indulge in uneccesary cruelty we are very privileged to have that choice

    • @lunarfaerie8552
      @lunarfaerie8552 Год назад +3

      We’re privileged to be able to choose whether we indulge in unnecessary cruelty?! I find the use of the word privileged to be a strange choice. The word is most often applied to a reward system. To be privileged is to have attained some benefit. I can’t see unnecessary cruelty in this way. These Orca were choosing to teach their young how to survive and thrive by inflicting cruelty upon a different species who are ultimately prey to them. Man no longer needs to teach its young how to survive in the same way, therefore killing prey animals is done for sport and entertainment. Is it any wonder then that humans started killing other humans? Not out of any other reason than a difference of opinion! We don’t share another’s religion, we have massive stockpiles of food whilst elsewhere people are starving, we wage war to steal land and make others bow to our rule. I’m sorry but I don’t count myself as privileged to be human when man mercilessly kills his fellow man.

    • @ch4z_bucks
      @ch4z_bucks Год назад

      If cruelty is unnecessary then surely it is a choice to indulge in it? Ergo the orcas also have the choice to indulge in unnecessary cruelty.

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 Год назад

      Unbelievable. I am reading comments saying Orca are as intelligent as humans, but unlike us they are not 'priviledged' to choose not to do unnecessary cruelty. So why do they get a pass and humans don't?

    • @A1Kira
      @A1Kira 11 месяцев назад

      Orca's have that same ability... they interact with humans just fine in the wild so they obviously pick and choose when to get violent. Orca's have a very high IQ for animals, its odd how sometimes its "animals are smarter than we think" then its some bs like your comment.

    • @-el_bandito
      @-el_bandito 11 месяцев назад

      @charlesmartin1121 libtards can’t wag their finger at orcas. If we had a translator for orca language I’m sure they would

  • @doomsday3455
    @doomsday3455 11 месяцев назад +53

    It always amazes me that when we humans see our own behaviour in other species, we're horrified. Its almost like the orca are trying to teach us something.

    • @mymy820
      @mymy820 11 месяцев назад +1

      The discount is real. So sad. :(

    • @SuperChavon
      @SuperChavon 11 месяцев назад

      They're not trying to teach us something they're just jerks

    • @SuperChavon
      @SuperChavon 11 месяцев назад

      And almost everyone already knows murder is horrible

    • @MemoMemo-xm3mw
      @MemoMemo-xm3mw 11 месяцев назад +1

      pretty weird how you called them jerks and how he is calling the act very cruel and uncomfortable to watch when we as humans have been doing something far worse. you know its not because of orcas that so many animals are going extinct and whatnot horrible things are happening to the entire ecosystem

    • @Polo22546
      @Polo22546 11 месяцев назад

      THIS!!

  • @jenniferbailey2214
    @jenniferbailey2214 Год назад

    Well put ending👏👏👏

  • @tvaldez108
    @tvaldez108 Год назад +1

    Nothing like watching a video of a guy talking about Orcas.

  • @simmek4575
    @simmek4575 2 года назад +9

    Why not show these events if you were there filming it, instead of these generic shots of Orcas?? I really don't get it

  • @machomb
    @machomb Год назад +16

    Dolphins in general mostly all do surplus killing, sometimes just for fun it seems. They also use food to bait prey. It's pretty amazing how intelligent they are.

  • @Gorkhali_01
    @Gorkhali_01 Год назад +1

    That's a hell of a training session

  • @jessH090
    @jessH090 Год назад

    What he said about compartmentalising their lives was incredibly interesting.

  • @labreeskalies3546
    @labreeskalies3546 9 месяцев назад +5

    I had just made a comment to my husband that we were the only species on the planet that killed for sport and not just food. And lo and behold not five minutes later scrolling through RUclips I come across this video and was proved completely wrong. Firstly I want to say that I really appreciate the hard work and everything that you guys have done tonight just a short video. It's such a learning experience and extremely valuable knowledge I feel in our quest as human beings to learn about the other species on the planet. It is absolutely insane to me that Orcas do such , for lack of a better term, cruel and evil-type of actions!!!! I've been fascinated by Killer Whales for years and so much has come out about them , doing things ( like precision surgery to Great Whites for their livers!!) We as humans , didn't think even POSSIBLE for animals to do!! This was a GREAT video and I thank u for sharing with the world such fascinating things!!

  • @blackjacktaz
    @blackjacktaz Год назад +4

    Just like a cat!

  • @newman824
    @newman824 7 месяцев назад

    WOW! This song is undefeated ❤❤

  • @felixloveseat
    @felixloveseat Год назад

    Good lesson, thanks

  • @twinflowerfioretta
    @twinflowerfioretta 2 года назад +5

    Thank you! Steve Backshall is phenomenal, very interesting docu.! its always great to get more knowledge about animals and their behavor - until now i loved the Movie "Free Willy" 💕
    Orcas are stunning, they are alpha predators and have the best killing strategie in groups. they can kill big white Sharks !

  • @sagittariusbeauty
    @sagittariusbeauty 2 года назад +4

    This is why I'm terrified of these things

    • @FatherManus
      @FatherManus 2 года назад

      They don’t view humans as food. And they know we are intelligent. That’s why there is no recorded human death in the wild from an Orca. They even kill Great White Sharks for their livers!

    • @Ki_Adi_Mundi
      @Ki_Adi_Mundi 2 года назад

      There is not a single account of any Orca killing a human. Except in captivity. You _should_ be terrified of Sea World...

    • @maruchan458
      @maruchan458 2 года назад +1

      Same

    • @EvaFuji
      @EvaFuji 2 года назад

      they are harmless there are people who swim with them in the wild

  • @science4life486
    @science4life486 Год назад

    Well said sir.

  • @matchaqueen6541
    @matchaqueen6541 Год назад

    They're so beautiful!!

  • @indexwarrior6100
    @indexwarrior6100 2 года назад +48

    it's "awful" when orcas do it, but when human hunters do the same thing for sport it's "normal"

    • @rhetoric5173
      @rhetoric5173 2 года назад +2

      They do it for education. They even do it with seagrass. Orcas can get permanently beached.

    • @902-Mac
      @902-Mac Год назад

      I don’t think anyone believes what the orcas are doing is awful

    • @mosterchife6045
      @mosterchife6045 Год назад

      No????? 90% of hunters despise the jerks who go to Africa and hunt things for sport, not to mention the shitloads of non-hunters hating it too. Most hunters eat what they kill.
      Very few people in modern society call sport hunting normal or ethical.

    • @orange_cat
      @orange_cat Год назад

      I'd go with the opposite of everything you said. Are you from Commiefornia?
      Orcas are supposed to do this, by nature. We humans should not hunt for sport, only for food. Or in my case, if there are wasps, noisy mockingbirds, mosquitoes, houseflies, or grackles. Everybody else gets to live.

    • @techelitesareadisease8816
      @techelitesareadisease8816 Год назад +7

      I've never known a hunter in my life who would torture an animal and prolong its death. Efficient and quick deaths are the norm and what is practiced.

  • @davidsmith8997
    @davidsmith8997 2 года назад +97

    Those whales that find it enjoyable practice it and engage in it more often, becoming better killers and thereby more effectively passing their genes into future generations. Thus the question of whether it's immediately adaptive (e.g., training the young) versus a by-product of adaptation (e.g., enjoying hunting) is somewhat trivial. The fact that animal predators enjoy hunting should not be a surprising fact other than to those who believe that such amoral feelings only exist in humans.

    • @de_747_
      @de_747_ 2 года назад +3

      Actually they are dolphins

    • @joachimwalle3760
      @joachimwalle3760 2 года назад +1

      @@de_747_ Potato potato.

    • @flowerwht
      @flowerwht 2 года назад +7

      I believe cats hunt for fun as well

    • @strangenuts
      @strangenuts 2 года назад +10

      @@flowerwht so do birds. Killing for leisure is a common occurrence in nature but is not palatable on most nature documentaries.

    • @djfebrezee
      @djfebrezee 2 года назад +4

      @@de_747_ You know all dolphins are toothed whales, right? Calling them whales is not incorrect.

  • @hoi-polloi1863
    @hoi-polloi1863 Год назад +1

    I've found that when teaching my own young, they don't learn well when they're hungry. I wonder if the orcas picked up on the same idea.

  • @samuelboucher1454
    @samuelboucher1454 Год назад

    Finally, scientists were spot on with their naming.

  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 2 года назад +40

    The dead seal / sealion would end up being calories for some creature. Nothing in nature goes to waste.

    • @alejandrob.4961
      @alejandrob.4961 2 года назад +4

      what? you can say the same thing for any killing on this planet

    • @Knappa22
      @Knappa22 2 года назад +4

      @@alejandrob.4961 Yes. It’s the circle of life. The presenter seemed astonished that the sealion was not going to end up ‘as precious calories’ for the whales. Well so what?
      It’ll be precious calories for a scavenger or other marine animals.

    • @alejandrob.4961
      @alejandrob.4961 2 года назад +5

      @@Knappa22 but if you can apply a category for all things then the category lose is meaning; it would be ok if I kill 1000 elephants and rhinos because flies, worms and other insects and animals could eat those corpses?

    • @Knappa22
      @Knappa22 2 года назад +2

      @@alejandrob.4961 No because you are a human being, with a conscience and an awareness of concepts like extinction etc. A whale doesn’t.

    • @alejandrob.4961
      @alejandrob.4961 2 года назад

      @@Knappa22 excuses, both humans are other intelligent mammals are creations of nature, if we are bad and evil they are too when they do shitty things

  • @user-xw1zs7ed2w
    @user-xw1zs7ed2w 2 года назад +47

    I think the initial shock and horror of learning such things is just another reminder of our constant, unconscious anthropocentric judgements - from right or wrong to cute or ugly. All we can do is to learn to respect and protect nature as is, not as some rose-tinted “cute” or “good” version of our making.

  • @jhyrumgrant
    @jhyrumgrant Год назад +1

    I love how he turns it around and suddenly, humans are worse. You gotta love those generalizations.

  • @lavarball61
    @lavarball61 2 года назад +1

    Mom: don't play with your food
    Orca: hold my fins

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 2 года назад +15

    Orcas play with their food to teach the young how to humt same way we play with our children to teach themto walk, grab and talk.

    • @ChasehaWing
      @ChasehaWing 2 года назад +4

      Actually nah. Usually it's adults who indulge in this behavior. They just like to play with their food.
      They also have been known to kill prey but only eat specific parts and leave the rest of the carcass. For example: Shark liver and baby sperm whale tongue.
      This earned them another nickname: the gourmets of the sea.

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 2 года назад

      @@ChasehaWing - Maybe there's a problem with eating them, like how cats will leave certain organs of a mouse's body on instinct. Anyway, in this instance it seemed to be an exercise in survival against a rival species (which is a threat to their young).

    • @strangenuts
      @strangenuts 2 года назад +1

      @@mokarokas-1727 No they just like the liver and tongue the best. It just doesn't sit right with people that an animal could be wasteful.

    • @williamthelonelywasp4842
      @williamthelonelywasp4842 Год назад +1

      @Sigrid KaagI agree like how I only eat Bacon from pigs, brisket/beef from cows, and wings, legs, and thighs from chickens/turkeys. The rest goes somewhere else and I also read they eat it because it taste good but mainly it provides the most protein too.

  • @redoktober8164
    @redoktober8164 2 года назад +16

    Orcas are so good hunters that they often have so much food left untouched after a hunt, they won’t just consider other animals as prey, they will also consider them as toys, they are just such great hunters that food and toys are the same thing to them, they don’t kill because they are desperate, they kill because it’s fun

    • @blucat4
      @blucat4 2 года назад

      Maybe they kill for the 'life energy', and when that's extinguished they leave the dead body. Serious. The ones that hunt on the beach are becoming a different species to the ones that don't, the first 'soul-eating' Orcas. Or life-energy eating.

    • @taniredmi321
      @taniredmi321 Год назад

      Orcas are serial killers 🤣🤣🤣

  • @joeboyd8702
    @joeboyd8702 Год назад

    I will always remember the orca that we caught on a trawler when I was 21 back in 2001. He played dead and then tried to bite me after I tried to push him overboard. It did not work out well for him. It played on my mind for a long time until I watched some of their surplus killings.

  • @pikiwiki
    @pikiwiki 9 месяцев назад

    "and then it go even weirder" No something you expect to hear in a nature documentary

  • @Music-lx1tf
    @Music-lx1tf 2 года назад +4

    What's it like to encounter an animal that's actually smarter than you within its own environment

  • @A1Kira
    @A1Kira 11 месяцев назад +8

    Smart animals like them are just like us. Dolphins do terrible things as well, sometimes to each other. Just goes to show that our cruelty probably comes from nature, as does theirs.

  • @FrenchPrinceofBel-Air
    @FrenchPrinceofBel-Air Год назад

    Can’t wait to go fishing & catch & release it!

  • @griffinoluoch7804
    @griffinoluoch7804 2 года назад +1

    The orca PR team cannot recover from this

  • @robertabray-enhus3198
    @robertabray-enhus3198 2 года назад +34

    They’re highly intelligent and of course they need to teach their young how to survive..
    Even though the females remain with the pods their whole lives, they still need to learn how to function.
    They’re called
    the “wolves of the sea”,as they hunt as a pack.
    What exactly they were doing with the seal was odd.
    I think they were showing their youngsters how to hunt,and tire out your pray.
    Yet they didn’t eat it in the end.
    As they function as a group,they hunt as a group for bigger prey that will feed the whole pod.
    Their usual prey are small whales and whale calves, larger sharks, and elephant seals.

  • @wildrose5554
    @wildrose5554 2 года назад +3

    That’s what I was going to say when he said, what animal goes through all that trouble and then doesn’t even eat it?
    I was thinking… cats and people who hunt (who do it as an activity other than supplying food). Then at the end he reached that conclusion. Minus the cat part.

  • @rubyal9045
    @rubyal9045 8 месяцев назад

    I love the last sentence

  • @usernane3652
    @usernane3652 2 года назад

    it's like kids risking their neck to recover a ball from a tree or a roof

  • @Smasho8000
    @Smasho8000 2 года назад +5

    Well, even if they don't eat the animal being killed, something else will come along and eat it, so it doesn't go completely to waste.

  • @johnwayne6647
    @johnwayne6647 2 года назад +5

    It’s really cool to see the orcas behavior especially like this one with teaching youngsters how to hunt .Although it does leave carcasses that’s food for other animals to eat

    • @MissBlueEyeliner
      @MissBlueEyeliner 2 года назад

      Great point! That’s the way I see it when my cat catches small prey. Some people bury their “gifts” but I leave them for the other little animals who might be in need of a meal.

  • @TheKingdamm
    @TheKingdamm 4 дня назад

    Incredible

  • @olgowska666
    @olgowska666 6 месяцев назад +1

    I never judge a nature. Orcas are intelligent and their intelligence is actually scary. Beautiful shoots.

  • @1life_Only
    @1life_Only 2 года назад +49

    What an incredible intelligent animal the entire whale family is.
    Events like these get me thinking how complex life is in this universe and we humans are so negligible yet we tend to think our being on this planet is the most important thing that has no end.

    • @olliec1429
      @olliec1429 2 года назад +2

      Technically it’s not a whale

    • @CJ-eg4ok
      @CJ-eg4ok 2 года назад +1

      orcas aren't whales lol

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 2 года назад +3

      @@CJ-eg4ok - Orcas are absolutely a form of whale, just like dolphins.

    • @ch4z_bucks
      @ch4z_bucks Год назад

      ​@@mokarokas-1727 no. Dolphins and whales are 2 different species, that's like saying octopus are a form of squid or vice versa.

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 Год назад +1

      @@ch4z_bucks - "No." Dolphin is not a single species, and neither is whale. In the formal sense, dolphins belong to the whale family. You can look up the classification.

  • @angeninetytwo
    @angeninetytwo 2 года назад +5

    I think he’s kinda humanizing orcas when he just goes with a kayak into the water and thinks they won’t see him as the next toy to play with 😅

    • @abdulmoid267
      @abdulmoid267 2 года назад +3

      Though I agree with you that it's dangerous but orcas don't really attack humans in the wild for some reason

  • @davewarrender2056
    @davewarrender2056 2 года назад

    I'm not surprised , I remember watching a doc about a pod of dolphins that had been watched by researchers for about a decade. They said that they had observed many characteristics of behaviour similar to humans

  • @AshtonOrtega
    @AshtonOrtega 2 года назад

    I love on Vancouver Island. This pod is well known to the locals . Amazing sub species here in Canada! Working hard to rebound :)

  • @AbdulRahmanKhan
    @AbdulRahmanKhan 2 года назад +12

    Yes truly we, human being are masters of killing surplus.

    • @Monaleenian
      @Monaleenian 2 года назад

      We're the masters of the energy surplus

  • @Tout-Le-Monde02
    @Tout-Le-Monde02 2 года назад +22

    Orcas are intelligent enough to never go for human kills since they know they might get wiped out ..... that's intelligence at a completely groundbreaking level ...... how they were playing with the humans in their kayaks and then suddenly became predatory for a seal ..... unbelievable .....

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 2 года назад +7

      Seriously, that shows a very high level of intelligence and cultural memory.

    • @Pedro_Le_Chef
      @Pedro_Le_Chef Год назад

      Not true at all. You have zero evidence for that and there's no correlation between human predation and the species being hunt by humans.
      Blue Whales never hunted humans and look how we almost drove them to extinction.
      Orcas killing humans wouldn't really change anything when it comes to their survival.

  • @BK-uf6qr
    @BK-uf6qr Год назад

    There’s a lot of “levels” to this conversation.

  • @emmariley5514
    @emmariley5514 2 года назад

    After the short began with Anthropomorphising, I was about to say “they’re teaching” & “ without that, they don’t eat = they die” & again when anthropomorphism was introduced when discussing the seal, I felt the need to defend the orca. SO I’m very pleased the short did explain it is done as teaching, their young have to learn or they will die. I was also pleased to hear Steve explain that we’re the ones who kill for fun, torture for reasons I don’t understand, capture & incarcerate etc. Just a shame the srkw aren’t currently able to get enough food to have many teaching experiences or to thrive like the transients.

  • @deongarth333
    @deongarth333 2 года назад +3

    It's been EONS since I've last seen Orca! My mother and I used to travel to Orcas Island back in the early 00s as she was a nanny at the time to babysit a very old best friend I had that lived in Eastsound and they're known for Orca Whales! 🐋 I never knew they had that evil side to them as they seem so harmless yet so friendly to us but aren't that way when it comes to catching their prey as though they have that shark-like type of instinct which I found very fascinating! Makes me wonder how far they travel as a group as they're practically one of my favorite whale breeds beside the Great White Shark along the Hammer Sharks as well. ☺

    • @jacobv3396
      @jacobv3396 2 года назад

      Hopefully the Southern Resident orcas can make a comeback!

    • @kyleenglot9184
      @kyleenglot9184 Год назад

      Except those orcas are southern residents. They only hunt salmon, and are picky to be exact where they go after the Chinook which are the largest salmon species and give enough energy the orcas need. The transients or "Biggs" orcas are the mammal hunters. The two populations are fully separated, they don't have genetic relations to one another and never seem to interact with eachother even if they cross the same territories. I think one thing orcas have is a non aggressive understanding and mutual civility between non related orca clans. They may share the same territories but they don't kill or go to war against one another. Maybe because they don't compete for the same kind of food, so there's no reason for them to have aggression between different orca pods.

  • @harpermarmont9035
    @harpermarmont9035 2 года назад +68

    They are highly intelligent and complex creatures. They have developed their own patterns depending on the areas they live in. Their structure in matrilines and pods (extended families) shows how the family bond is necessary for them to survive. Transmitting and teaching are key (hunting needs teaching). We should take them as an example. That would make our lives in society much nicer.

    • @LarryWater
      @LarryWater 2 года назад +5

      We humans also live in families and have close ties.

    • @Ribsi
      @Ribsi Год назад +11

      That is literally how we function as a species, what do you mean?

    • @ch4z_bucks
      @ch4z_bucks Год назад +4

      ​@@Ribsi just more self loathing talk really. Find them a lot in nature doc comments sections where people in an attempt to sound higher up morally or more intelligent than others will bash on humans or make some ridiculous comparison.

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 Год назад +1

      Yeah if only we humans were capable of 'transmitting and teaching.' Duh.

  • @augustawind69
    @augustawind69 Год назад

    Welp that was incredibly depressing

  • @jacquelinemanzano9328
    @jacquelinemanzano9328 2 года назад +1

    Orcas are absolutely beautiful and intelligent. Next to Grizzly Bears they are my favorite.