@@anonymous-ix6sc yeaaa I'ma Play it on Monday after work I couldn't play cus I have girlfriend duties but I'm excited I beat this game like 6 times and have all platinum trophies but instead of me importing my old data I'ma re do the whole game! That's how much I love this game it's a masterpiece 🙌
Honestly if you changed it so that if Liv dying when playing as Yara wasn't an instant lose condition (and instead you just lose him for the rest of the run) she'd probably be A tier.
@@ChrisYorky Lev's wiki page literally refers to them as He/Him. So you're wrong. I assume you probably identify with the old grumpy guy at the beginning of the game who didn't like Ellie because she likes to kiss girls? Also they're video game characters so who the hell cares?
They should add an endless mode to this, would really help the games replayability even more, also you could easily have the leaderboards track the furthest wave people have got to.
If the intention is to ramp up encounter difficulty along the way, I doubt endless would scale very well. It already gets pretty crazy insane at the end of the run with waves of 6/7 enemies on assaults that start in combat.
@@bladechild2449 I mean I was more thinking that they could make it so there's multiple bosses per boss stage, or just make enemies more aggressive or faster, I thinking spamming enemies should only really happen further along if they were going to do this.
Joel is S tier for one simple reason - he gets shivs. Clickers are the only thing in the game that can just one shot you unless you have a shiv. And getting them with any other character is extremely RNG as you rely on the outpost. Don't even consider doing a run where the boss is the theatre infestation with any other character
Not being able to dodge is too much of a disadvantage. Clickers' walk speed is actually kinda slow compared to other infected of the same size. Their flails can be dodged, you can stun them with throwables, and they die instantly from environmental melee weapons, at least on moderate. They're also vulnerable when you feed them something, which you can do with both people and infected, they're not good against shotguns blasts - _and_ a Shiv costs resources that can be used to make melee upgrades _and bombs_ both of which have potential to kill clickers in one shot where shivs are not a guaranteed one hit kill mechanism, like they are in the first game. Don't get me wrong they're an invaluable resource, but perhaps more trouble than they're worth.
@@jenishmaharjan9655 Its bad if you depend on dodge, you literally play the game differently and getting backed into a corner with no shivs will get you stun locked to death.
feel like this coop would be sooo good…pairing up Joel + Tommy gives you a bonus in score or Ellie + Dina …missed opportunity but still excited to give this mode a go
Kinda funny hearing Dina being an “explosives expert” all I think of is Seattle day 1 when that clicker runs into a trip wire mine and Dina screams “WTF WAS THAT?!” And Ellie calmly says a trip mine and then Dina says confused “A WHAT!?!?” 😂😂😂😂
It's a great video, thanks! 🤛I already love No Return. Just start a few days ago to play NR, but Jesse is a "S" grade character too imo. +30% coins and the unlimired re-roll is very helpful after a completed level. In combat, the silencer and the pipe bomb are to be too op sometimes (on grounded). He is a great mixed character by Joel and Abby. He got only pros almost.
Hmm, a tier list with only S, A, B tiers…. .___. If I made this, it would’ve had a 2-person per tier rule to force variety: S Tier - Ellie, Abby A Tier - Manny, Lev B Tier - Jesse, Dina C Tier - Yara, Mel D Tier - Tommy, Joel * Yara I could see in B, but in higher difficulties, I constantly am babysitting Lev NPC from dying
Might wanna cover the weapons available and how good they are in the run. For instance I got the explosive arrows for the bow and they easily got me to the boss. Only to betray me when a zombie dropped right in front of me when I fired.
It does make sense, Owen didn't had a single fight section in the game, the rest of the characters did, also, he can't play the medic role, I think the only medics are Mel and Nora
Abby's Badlands costume isn't unlocking for me, I've done a dozen encounters with only melee and almost finished an entire run without even pulling the trigger of a gun
we need an endless mode with waves and a boss fight every like 5-10 waves. with recourses spawning in crates just like they already do at the end of each wave
We should of had 4 factions instead of 2 groups, remember we got jackson, wlf (wolves), seraphites (scars) and the rattlers that way we could have had more characters and different play styles as well as more dlc in the future for more
I would love if they put characters from part 1 as well as some more from part 2: Tess, Bill and Maria (for Ellie side), and Marlene, Isaac and Owen (Abby side).
Thank you for the guide man! I also wanted to ask how were you able to play the game early. For me here it comes out on Friday the 19th at 12am. I'm in the East Coast.
Dina I think should be A and Ellie should be A. Haven’t played enough as Abby. Dina’s smoke bombs saved my life multiple times and actually can get you back into stealth
Nice guide. I am personally excited for Lev as Ally. No matter the difficulty. By the way, any guide on how to get the PS5 version on sale if I have PS4 version? When trying to buy it says I already have the game..
After a while, I learned how the Tommy and Joel "perk" Sturdier to Melee is just misinformation. They are NOT at all any more durable to melee damage and they still get staggered as much. The devs should've just said: Cannot dodge because of age. Simple as that.
Can ellie/ellie like characters have abby/abby like weapons and vice versa? Like abby with a bow ellie with a cross bow. Dina with military pistol jessie with a bolt action rifle? Or is it locked to whether or not you have a knife?
@@Xerx3s1 After playing it I'm actually really disappointed that upgrades don't carry over _between_ runs as long as your character survives each encounter.
Am i the only one who finds no return really difficult? I finished both part 1 and 2 on grounded and it was easy. With NR i keep dying on hard difficulty, and haven’t yet finished a run
Joel not dodging isn’t a problem simply because you shouldn’t play as him the same way you would Ellie or the others, you should have shivs crafted all the time and at least a melee weapon all the time, he can also get kills using the bricks like in part 1 so that’s saving ammo and crafting. Also can’t let yourself get into a situation where your backed into a walled corner
Accessibility and post-game cheat codes both feature slow-motion options, and No Return is a singleplayer campaign. So I'm pretty sure you can use whatever you want. I would be surprised if they allowed cheats during daily runs though.
Ive tried playing on Grounded alot, and can get through some of levels, but I'm pretty much ready to give up. I get too angry and frustrated. I think i prefer just playing on Hard, i just don't find Grounded rewarding.
*Who do you think comes with the best starting loadout and skills?* -BoomstickAlex
Wen u unlock costumes will they transfer to story mode??
@@dairyontedecoteau673yea they do
@@k0jimbo that's awesome AF thanx man!!!
Abby is unfortunately the best character I think. The strike skill is soooo strong.
@@anonymous-ix6sc yeaaa I'ma Play it on Monday after work I couldn't play cus I have girlfriend duties but I'm excited I beat this game like 6 times and have all platinum trophies but instead of me importing my old data I'ma re do the whole game! That's how much I love this game it's a masterpiece 🙌
Honestly if you changed it so that if Liv dying when playing as Yara wasn't an instant lose condition (and instead you just lose him for the rest of the run) she'd probably be A tier.
You can turn off Allies get grabbed in combat accessibility
Getting Lilly killed sounds like a major win
"She"
@@ChrisYorky Lev's wiki page literally refers to them as He/Him. So you're wrong. I assume you probably identify with the old grumpy guy at the beginning of the game who didn't like Ellie because she likes to kiss girls? Also they're video game characters so who the hell cares?
@MrSupersonic2012 you know you can edite Wikipedia right? It's not facts. And to each their own bud.
This "No Return" mode is dope, but it would've been more dope if it had co-op 👊🏿
It would've been AMAZING as a co-op
I really think it was, in Factions. I already miss that game
@@TheGotta91 Me too
@@TheGotta91Factions wasn't roguelike but yeah
Playing as Ellie and Abby together would be pretty neat
I love how Dina, Mel, Lev, and Yara all have their own in-game knife models despite using Ellie’s scripts.
Well of course they aren't going to add special animations for each one it's just close range combat, not an anime
@@z_kokiiitoosso?? Other games do
honestly they should’ve made Mel into Nora instead since she’s also a nurse and we already know she’s super speedy lol
EXACTLY!!!! I was so confused, “Mel was preggers the entire time and Nora actually was fast AF while being a doctor!”
They should add an endless mode to this, would really help the games replayability even more, also you could easily have the leaderboards track the furthest wave people have got to.
If the intention is to ramp up encounter difficulty along the way, I doubt endless would scale very well. It already gets pretty crazy insane at the end of the run with waves of 6/7 enemies on assaults that start in combat.
@@bladechild2449 I mean I was more thinking that they could make it so there's multiple bosses per boss stage, or just make enemies more aggressive or faster, I thinking spamming enemies should only really happen further along if they were going to do this.
and maybe a special run you can select where your character is swapped each encounter and your guns and abilities are rerolled would be kinda cool
I think it would be neat if they just kept adding more and more gameplay mods if it was endless. Like round 5 difficulty just more and more volatile
or like an all boss ecounters runs expect you start with mats and materials and guns@@VivaBlackMesa
Just started playing this today, loving it so far. Tons of replayability
Abby is my favorite character to play as.
Her close-quarter combat style is very brutal and satisfying, and I love it!
I can't convince myself to change the glam-rock getup. They did a really good job with that one.
HahahahahahahHahah geez
@@jha7623 Need some help there, bro?
Got a stroke there? @@jha7623
Joel is S tier for one simple reason - he gets shivs.
Clickers are the only thing in the game that can just one shot you unless you have a shiv. And getting them with any other character is extremely RNG as you rely on the outpost.
Don't even consider doing a run where the boss is the theatre infestation with any other character
Not being able to dodge is too much of a disadvantage. Clickers' walk speed is actually kinda slow compared to other infected of the same size. Their flails can be dodged, you can stun them with throwables, and they die instantly from environmental melee weapons, at least on moderate. They're also vulnerable when you feed them something, which you can do with both people and infected, they're not good against shotguns blasts - _and_ a Shiv costs resources that can be used to make melee upgrades _and bombs_ both of which have potential to kill clickers in one shot where shivs are not a guaranteed one hit kill mechanism, like they are in the first game. Don't get me wrong they're an invaluable resource, but perhaps more trouble than they're worth.
I used pipe bombs galore
ez
@futurestoryteller he don't need dodge when his revolver one hits runner with increased accuracy already there.
When you play on grounded everything can potentially 1 shot you 😂😂
I’m stoked for this mode and will for sure be playing it. Happy to see Ellie in S tier lol
They gotta add dodge to Joel and Tommy, seems to really hold them back.
Did u see the video, it clearly states can't dodge but takes less damage and deals from more damage to melee enemies
@@jenishmaharjan9655 ultimately I gotta play it but the reviews of them say they’d be as good as Abby and Ellie if they had dodge.
@@jenishmaharjan9655 Its bad if you depend on dodge, you literally play the game differently and getting backed into a corner with no shivs will get you stun locked to death.
@@ombra711I’ve been stun locked as Tommy at least 3 times on grounded
It’s probably because Joel and Tommy didn’t get dodge in the first game
Manny looks like a stranger with no beard. Great video, really informative, thank you 😊
I think that is supposed to be his look when Ellie was 14 in the fireflies hospital
He looks so bad ☹️
Manny seems like my type of character, the fact that you can craft bullets is nice and extra health
"questionable apocalypse snack" hahaha love it
I love playing as Lev. Explosive arrows are ridiculously fun
Right now, I'm playing as Jesse about to do the theater infestation. I'm scared but I'm gonna do that tomorrow lol
Gameplay has always been fun just wish they didn’t cancel the multiplayer
Same😭 we will always be left to wonder what if would’ve been like
feel like this coop would be sooo good…pairing up Joel + Tommy gives you a bonus in score or Ellie + Dina …missed opportunity but still excited to give this mode a go
Having an ally with you takes points away from you
Abby is extremely OP with the melee build
Nah Jesse is better, since he starts with the pipe bomb recipe, he basically has Abbys animations anyway.
Abby's special weapon should be a golf club 🙃
rofl good 1
Then she'd be OP since she always gets a Joel in 1.
@@MrSupersonic2012 Beauty 🤣
@MrSupersonic2012 it has been years but it's still too soon for jokes (laughing and sobbing at the same time) 😢😂😂
@@Kerazzy.That’s why I won’t play Part 2 😂
Great video, I think Manny looks really fun!
Why is Mel playable instead of Owen? Did anyone even like Mel?
we had no combat cenarios with Owen, we did with Mel
Probably because we needed a medic chracter, it was Mel or Nora
Probably alot easier. All the characters that are playable are characters that already have combat animations in the main story
Jesse is my fav character having 6 bomb basically insta kill all bosses
Does anyone else think you should have unlocked Owen instead of Mel ? If we are going by having the closest ally’s in each faction
Hope they add and I want to play as
Jordan, leah, Owen, Nora, and Nick
Would be dope it they add the characters Bill and Tess
And Riley
From all the missing characters I really miss Owen the most. He would have been fun to play as.
Idk why I find it funny that yaras “special” ability is labeled as “teamwork” when we all know it’s that she’s so bad that she’s codependent.
Kinda funny hearing Dina being an “explosives expert” all I think of is Seattle day 1 when that clicker runs into a trip wire mine and Dina screams “WTF WAS THAT?!” And Ellie calmly says a trip mine and then Dina says confused “A WHAT!?!?” 😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the settings for motion sickness!
Agree. I don't have a problem but my wife could not watch it for any length of time. May I ask you a question?
@@ChrisYorky Ask
A more jacked Wolverine is hilarious
It's a great video, thanks! 🤛I already love No Return. Just start a few days ago to play NR, but Jesse is a "S" grade character too imo. +30% coins and the unlimired re-roll is very helpful after a completed level. In combat, the silencer and the pipe bomb are to be too op sometimes (on grounded). He is a great mixed character by Joel and Abby. He got only pros almost.
Looks like they removed dodge for Joel and Tommy to handicap them a bit...
exactly what i’m saying. if they could dodge they would be too op
I think b for Tommy. My biggest issue is if you have your 4th or 5th encounters be hunted it’s easy to die
Hmm, a tier list with only S, A, B tiers…. .___.
If I made this, it would’ve had a 2-person per tier rule to force variety:
S Tier - Ellie, Abby
A Tier - Manny, Lev
B Tier - Jesse, Dina
C Tier - Yara, Mel
D Tier - Tommy, Joel
* Yara I could see in B, but in higher difficulties, I constantly am babysitting Lev NPC from dying
Might wanna cover the weapons available and how good they are in the run. For instance I got the explosive arrows for the bow and they easily got me to the boss. Only to betray me when a zombie dropped right in front of me when I fired.
"...when hugging simeone."😂😂😂
Weird that they chose to include Mel rather than Owen on the Abby side... doesn't really make sense
It does make sense, Owen didn't had a single fight section in the game, the rest of the characters did, also, he can't play the medic role, I think the only medics are Mel and Nora
Abby's Badlands costume isn't unlocking for me, I've done a dozen encounters with only melee and almost finished an entire run without even pulling the trigger of a gun
Looking forward to seeing some Prince of Persia combos!
They should have given Tommy and Joel a push or shoulder tackle at the very least but no return is actually fire
ellie and joel ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I feel like this is getting us ready for factions. Setting up these type of characters with these certain type of abilities
Factions got cancelled
we need an endless mode with waves and a boss fight every like 5-10 waves. with recourses spawning in crates just like they already do at the end of each wave
Good summary for every character, keep up the great work! 😎👏
We should of had 4 factions instead of 2 groups, remember we got jackson, wlf (wolves), seraphites (scars) and the rattlers that way we could have had more characters and different play styles as well as more dlc in the future for more
I would love if they put characters from part 1 as well as some more from part 2: Tess, Bill and Maria (for Ellie side), and Marlene, Isaac and Owen (Abby side).
@@Animechargeblog Keep Isaac, I want Jordan, Nora, Leah and Nick
I have a question any permanent unlocks for future runs for each character also, what about the custom mode
Another great video
Thank you for the guide man! I also wanted to ask how were you able to play the game early. For me here it comes out on Friday the 19th at 12am. I'm in the East Coast.
It was sent to me from Sony
Fantastic video thanks! I’m not sure this is how tiers work though, the idea is to spread them over all five tiers 😂
I wish you could choose what allie you can have but still looks pretty fun!
nice idea, or at least chose from a limited selection
Yeah! like a good old Joel and Ellie duo in this game would be epic! I don’t know seems like a missed opportunity to me.
I like playing manny aslong you know how to use his loadout then the whole game mode finna be hella fun
Is this game already out? Also love the gameplay I hope you can play co-op as well
Dina I think should be A and Ellie should be A. Haven’t played enough as Abby. Dina’s smoke bombs saved my life multiple times and actually can get you back into stealth
Nice guide. I am personally excited for Lev as Ally. No matter the difficulty. By the way, any guide on how to get the PS5 version on sale if I have PS4 version? When trying to buy it says I already have the game..
Wait until the 19th
After a while, I learned how the Tommy and Joel "perk" Sturdier to Melee is just misinformation. They are NOT at all any more durable to melee damage and they still get staggered as much. The devs should've just said: Cannot dodge because of age. Simple as that.
Yara is easily S tier aslong as you don’t do Holdouts
"Joel gets a 12 shot revolver."
Me:........*takes a deep breath*....If you're gonna do that ND, at least give us an AK with a 30 round magazine.
i was really hoping mel or mannu would get an s rank because
y'know
that'd be hilarious
so i'm proud of manny for making the cut!
I thought it would be beneficial to completely remove aiming acceleration, watched some tutorial on aim improvements
5:42 happed twice already and I’m almost done with her damn skill tree. lmao 😂
I like play like joel if you know how to play with him and addapt you can really make a damage on the run
Im stuck at hillcrest on grounded plus no point in paying 10 bucks.
Can ellie/ellie like characters have abby/abby like weapons and vice versa? Like abby with a bow ellie with a cross bow. Dina with military pistol jessie with a bolt action rifle? Or is it locked to whether or not you have a knife?
Yeah: every weapon, any character.
I'm a liar, sorry, didn't mean to be. Some remixing going on with the other characters
So when you die you lose your character upgrades but not your character cosmetics, right?
Only your upgrades and weapons. Character cosmetics get equipped before you start a run.
@@Xerx3s1 After playing it I'm actually really disappointed that upgrades don't carry over _between_ runs as long as your character survives each encounter.
I love how brutal this game is ..kinda reminds me of Manhunt.
Joel should have counter instead of dodge and instant kill melee
This is like the re revelation mercenary mode.
Am i the only one who finds no return really difficult? I finished both part 1 and 2 on grounded and it was easy. With NR i keep dying on hard difficulty, and haven’t yet finished a run
Yara will have both arms on no return mode.
Loving it so far, but a little annoyed Joel can't dodge not gone lie. He should be the strongest by far
Joel not dodging isn’t a problem simply because you shouldn’t play as him the same way you would Ellie or the others, you should have shivs crafted all the time and at least a melee weapon all the time, he can also get kills using the bricks like in part 1 so that’s saving ammo and crafting. Also can’t let yourself get into a situation where your backed into a walled corner
Impinge if this game mode had coop
Is there also a slow motion option?
There is a mod for slow mo when getting headshots
Accessibility and post-game cheat codes both feature slow-motion options, and No Return is a singleplayer campaign. So I'm pretty sure you can use whatever you want. I would be surprised if they allowed cheats during daily runs though.
Just hit a 5,604 score on Survivor
Manny is S, Joel is A, but Mel is B? Mel gets tanky as hell, I'd put her in S or A under under Abbie and Ellie.
Kinda disappointing that the best characters are the two you start out with
Manny tho!
No Owen?
Ive tried playing on Grounded alot, and can get through some of levels, but I'm pretty much ready to give up. I get too angry and frustrated. I think i prefer just playing on Hard, i just don't find Grounded rewarding.
Manny can’t be touched bro.
Even if he doesn’t craft bullets he also finds some. I would rather give him also no dodge cause this guy is a MENACE
this looks fun af
They should give Abby a golf club as a starting melee weapon
I hope this new mode is more fun than it looks
Not putting Joel in s is crazy
why tommy's rifle only have 2 shot
I’m also bad with explosives (except arrows) 😂
I saw you olaying with joel as elly, is there multiplayer?
No. You sometimes get random companions on some maps
@@BoomstickGaming Can MCs be allies?
Can anyone tell me why i cant fire with R1 instead of the R2 trigger? Like im use to playing it the original way
Does anybody j know what the random seed means in the custom options??? I couldn’t find any videos for this.
They did Joel dirty again
i need help how do u continue a run
If I could get it I would get lev I would play for hours to get this charcter
why would anyone wanna unlo9ck mel?
So you can unlock manny
@@feetheawkward1739but they suck
@@Bluis5445 Bro just said Manny was top tier
@@Bluis5445 I do like Manny
They shouldve given abby a golfer outfit.
Aren’t some guns missing from this mode
Can u change weapons????
I wish manny got traded for Owen lol I found manny to be easily the most annoying in my playthrough
Guess i wont be playing abbys side cause their is no owen,and owen is the only character i like in abbys side
Fir me,
Dina A Tier
Joel S Tier
Interesting to see Manny UNshaved. Perhaps it was so he wouldn't look like neil cuKman anymore??
The fact that you tools thought he looked like him in the first place is embarrassing.
It is his Salt Lake skin, it was at the time that Ellie was 14 years, he was also younger
Broo WHY manny dont have his beard !!!!?!
He does have it, the gameplay he showed he was using a skin of younger manny, in the firefly hospital
Only love Joel and Ellie ❤❤
Niel is manny