Sometimes we need a film where it’s just the characters having fun ! This is a such a lightweight film compared to the darkness and emotional last two films so it’s very refreshing.
I've always wondered if Shatner pulling Nimoy into the water was scripted or spontaneous. It looks like Kirk surprised Spock and everyone was laughing. What a Joyful moment🖖
I know. Even though they had been hunted to extinction the whales communicated with the probe and saved the world. They could have been silent, but they saved the world instead.
Yes, me too Scorpius1691; it is up to an extinct organism of the past to save the Earth and it's inhabitants. Quite heartwarming, hopeful, and touching if you ask me.
[Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?' They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well. The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.
I had no idea that they attached an actual conversation in the story. I mean it makes sense in universe, but that they fleshed it out for us the "reader" to know what was said, I had no idea.
34 years ago yesterday my brother and I went to see it at the cinema. He's not a Trekkie but he loves this movie. I am the only kid our parents raised who is a Trekkie
Official translation from the official novel of the movie: [Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?' They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well. The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.
Thank you for taking the time to film from TV then uploading. I cried as I viewed this marvelous footage. Now, if only Iceland, Japan and Norway would STOP whaling, earth could be free of such a future. Roddenberry was a visionary in the 1960's. Live long and prosper to those writers who carry his visions such as this! Never belittle this film. What Gene Roddenberry saw such as shuttles, tricorders, etc. have come to pass. Thanks again!
Roddenberry was a satan worshiper (truly, his personal associations were L Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley) and for all we know, the artificial future he envisaged was planted in his mind by the devil, to spread to the world for instance the concept of beaming from here to there implies there is no human soul ... think about how that impacts your subconscious why you think there's such a slavic like following by "trekkies"? trek is a religious cult
So this magnificent scene begs the question: Are humpback whales from another planet? 🐳 Great acting by Leonard Nimoy as Spock finally engaging his emotions when he observes his hunch and guess ultimately saved Earth. His mother the Lady Amanda must be proud. 🖖👩👦
Well Richard to answer your question as to whether whales are from another planet we may never truly know there are a lot of mysteries still out there in our world just as there are probably money that lie beyond our star system.....
We're fairly certain humpback whales evolved on Earth. The species that created the probe were likely very much like them though. Kinda like humans and Vulcans.
An accurate description of the whale's conversation with the probe, as written in the novelisation: Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?' They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well.
Yeah, they answered the Probe/Traveler's question. The answer saddened it that it and its creators didn't even consider their allies/friends were facing extinction and were unable to cry for help because they lacked the means to send an SOS. Their extinction was very much it's fault as much as the humans. It's why even though tempted, the Probe couldn't kill the humans: the probe would be no better than them. So it accepts that it needs to leave and make its report and this time be more readily available to the young whales because their children will have questions about their lost ancestors and only it has the answers. And as the novels would show...the humans have learned of its' mistake with the whales and show it that they aren't beyond saving too.
Now they Send specially equipped Star Ships back in Time to Collect more Whales for the Future and protect the Earth, whilst cunningly disguising them as Japanese Whaling Vessels.
@@Joshuajacobson95 Official translation from the official novel of the movie: [Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?' They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well. The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.
Alien ship: "Hey whales. Nice to hear from you. Why were you silent for so long? We were starting to get pissed off!" Whales: "The humans wiped out our entire species. Only we two survive, and that's only because of some magic we don't understand. Avenge us!" Alien ship: "We will eliminate the land mammal vermin. You can try to re-create your species. However, genetic limitations make it very unlikely that you will survive." Whales: "At least we will be avenged. Thanks you, space deus ex machina!"
Amber,why you did captions from both probe and George the whale on star trek 4 the voyage home? They not talk you saw on my ABC affiliate wfaa-tv Dallas in 89-90.
If you go to the book of this story or the audiobook, you can hear the conversation between the whales and the planet killing thing up in space. They conversed one with another.
I think it's funny when right at the end Gillian is talking to Kirk after he's demoted to Captain, and he stops her and says, wait where are you going? She says something about how she got aboard a ship and that she has "200 years of ketchup learning to do" That never makes sense to me. Why does she have to learn about ketchup for the next 200 years?
Let's face it......if Kirk had looked like he did in the 1960's version, she would've hung on to him. Kirk was 55 years old by this point. What good is a 55-year-old to a 27-year-old???
The one person on Earth who wasn't celebrating was the Klingon ambassador who called for Kirk's head at the start of the movie as his people lost their chance to conquer the Federation when Kirk saved Earth and with it, the heart of Starfleet and the Federation. This made him even MORE determined to see Kirk pay for his "crimes" against the Klingon people by not letting them conquer and enslave the races of the Federation.....
The most spectacular and amazing element of this clip is that the glue holding William Shatner's wig can withstand the rigours of water (not to mention wig shrinkage when wet) the wonders of the modern age, ya can't beat it.
Raphael Perales it’s amazing to think he was bald irl when Star Trek started in the 60s, and they had to weave a hairpiece onto Shatner’s Head every day in the make up chair, and no one was the wiser.
Spock I think explained that Humpback Whales went extinct in the 21st century so it's likely that Earth's environmental conditions continued to deteriorate and this combined with World War III and the aftermath likely reduced their numbers to the point of no return. I get what you're saying though, blue whales and bowhead whales would be the ones more likely to die out.
it makes sense. I would say they need to follow it back to its owners and make peace with them. Just its power source alone was able to destroy live on earth if they didn't get back in time.
Interesting thought. There was a line of dialogue which never made it into the final film explaining why Saavik chose to stay behind on Vulcan. Apparently she was pregnant with Spock's child as a result of her mating with him during his Pon farr in the previous film. Saavik was originally slated to return in STVI, but her role was rewritten into that of Lt. Valeris.
@@pviveknair also you do have to remember one thing by that point I believe the five Xindi races had become part of the Federation so it wouldn't have been them that sent the probe.
when that other whale went on a nosedive, I was sad thinking it did not survive the trip or the polluted water. thank god i was just communicating with them
No, but the water must've been close to 90 degrees F., due to global warming, in which the temperature of the oceans didn't stop rising until the late 21st Century.
@@MrDavidh4another risk is kelp disappeared by the time they need them to remove itches and parasites unless a lab cloned the kelp they need to survive
Translation Probe - Hello , Helllo !!! Whales are you there ? Whale - huh , Hello . Ya gotta give me a sec , I have just gone through some crazy shit. Probe - We have traveled really far to tell you that Knight takes Pawn . Your move. Whale - What ???? Well huh ….,.. Rook to take Knight . Probe - Ok …..Be back in a bit. Whale - Nice talking to ya. ( Probe returning home humming a tune. )
#HEY They built a much more Vulcan Spock in the 2009 - 2013 films, whereas the classic Spock demonstrated human emotions like smile and happiness much more easily.
Did this movie have some subtitles, at the bottom of the screen; to show what the whale and the probe, were saying to each other??? Up until this point of time there wasn't Any Humpback whales, left in Any Oceans.
This is true although I will add this they did have to give the male characters sideburn extensions but yeah I think at that point Bill shatner still had real hair I don't think he had a toupee yet! 😊
In the Probe novelization when Spock mind-melded with the whale probe, he learned that the aliens who built it were of similar features to the humpback whales. The movie established that the race had been communicating with the whales 10 million years ago.
Subtitles were considered, but rejected. But there is a translation in the official novelised version: [Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders? They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well.
During the communication the probe was asking why the whales haven't been in contact with them for centuries. George(the male humpback) sadly explained that man was heavily hunting them down and their race went extinct. He and his mate, Gracie, came from the past to help save earth and speak on Kirk and his crew's behalf. Upon learning what happened to the whales, the probe asked if they wanted it to destroy humanity. George refused stating not all mankind are terrible people using Kirk, his crew and Dr. Gillian as prime examples. The probe accepts their request and deactivates it's probing device. Thanking George and Gracie for speaking to it, the probe leaves to restore the powers to the Space Dock and the ships.
@@Goodiesfanful The Probe and the Whales sound like they're fairly alien in mindset when compared to Humans and other Humanoid races, like they barely acknowledge the existence of Humanity and land dwelling lifeforms.....
@@ladyfire44 Yeah, the Humans of the 23rd century shouldn't be wiped out for the crimes of some of their ancestors and George and Gracie realized this which pleases me.
If Jumping the Shark represents the lowest point of a series, Time Travelling the Whale should represent an unexpectedly good late entry, as in: "That new X-Files really time travelled the whale".
In HAWAII, whales are protected by the government because in the early years ships would hunt whales for their fat.Just like the great white sharks,because they have been found to go to HAWAII to have their babies.
I believe they did and they went into stasis so they probably survived. Although Jesus himself knows the guys that were in charge of starfleets tug ships probably earned a buttload of overtime pay hauling in all those disabled ships!
In the novel, the captain of the Saratoga had more sense than the others. She ordered all but her essential crew into stasis to wait out the crisis rather than risk further draining the reserves when she noticed that trying to communicate was costing power. Her ship was hauled in, but she had the fewest casualties.
Sometimes we need a film where it’s just the characters having fun ! This is a such a lightweight film compared to the darkness and emotional last two films so it’s very refreshing.
They were great sequels.
They wanted to lighten up after the darker tone of the second and third movies.
I love that George & Gracie were swimming happily in the Pacific Ocean on 23rd Century Earth, where no one will hunt them.
No whalers in the 23rd century.
@@Goodiesfanful Isn’t that what Mary just said?
Where no one will hunt them? Why aren't there any Japanese in the 23rd century?
@@samadams7224 bit stereotypical there bud
I realize it is pretty off topic but do anyone know of a good site to watch new series online ?
I’ve always liked this movie. Just a good lighthearted adventure where you get to hang out with the characters
If you recall, Gracie was pregnant. The calf she gave birth to was named Harpo (Star Trek novelisation).
You can see Spock having a good time! His human nature took over as he was filled with joy!
I was thinking the same thing!
I dont think thats joy. I think thats dealing with water all over your face. Thats not a smile thats more a grimace imo
@@philswaim392 I looked it up. Apparently he was laughing and smiling with the crew. As he was happy for the whales and for the world.
@@coolcucumber372 hmmmm weird
I've always wondered if Shatner pulling Nimoy into the water was scripted or spontaneous. It looks like Kirk surprised Spock and everyone was laughing. What a Joyful moment🖖
Spock is smiling, you see, he DOES have emotions.
Not smiling - just a grimace
Not only was he smiling he straight up threw Gillian into the water
@@klein2042 So?
Of course. He's half-human.
Yes, I noticed Spock smiling a lot.
*this is the best star trek movie ever made in all history,outstanding..i love that*
They say 4 was the funniest an the more funnest of them all loved star trek 4 voyaged home
Voyage home sssssssuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkkkkeeedddd.
Like watching 2 hours of filler.
this scene always brings a tear to my eye
I know. Even though they had been hunted to extinction the whales communicated with the probe and saved the world. They could have been silent, but they saved the world instead.
Yes, me too Scorpius1691; it is up to an extinct organism of the past to save the Earth and it's inhabitants. Quite heartwarming, hopeful, and touching if you ask me.
Ditto
I remember seeing this one an theaters people where cheering an everything especially when the saw enterprise A
seeing spock smile did the same to me. It really adds to the joy of the scene seeing him allow himself to be half human.
[Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long?
They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief.
Where were you? it asked.
We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us.
By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths.
Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?'
They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive.
Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families?
They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer.
The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea.
Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories.
Fare thee well.
The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.
From the novelization?
@@Timeward76 yes
I had no idea that they attached an actual conversation in the story. I mean it makes sense in universe, but that they fleshed it out for us the "reader" to know what was said, I had no idea.
Thanks for sharing; good insight into the story 40 years later!
34 years ago yesterday my brother and I went to see it at the cinema. He's not a Trekkie but he loves this movie. I am the only kid our parents raised who is a Trekkie
My, Spock sure seems happy and jovial at the end, he's grinning ear to ear
Star Trek IV was by far my favorite of the 80s star trek movies!
I always wondered if they said "so long and thanks for all the fish " at the end
Probe was all "Dudes I want a double che bacon side gravy" Whales were all, "Coming right up."
HAHA! Love that comment!
Hahahahahahaha. Good one. A fellow Douglas Adams (RIP) fan, obviously.
rj frame *We tried to warn you all, but oh dear* .
So sad that it has come to this!
This movie kicks the crap out of any JJ Abrams Star Trek!
Right! I can’t watch those new movies, so crap!!😟
It's a great time travel story and also the most FUN of all star trek movies!
One of the best Treks!
Um. Nah. The abrams films were all better than this one. This is still a good film. But basically just a psa about whales
@Seth Thomas thats why i said its still good. But i reject the claim that this movie is vetter than the Abrams films.
I love all the original star trek programs and movies. One of a kind original.
I remember this part in the novel. You get to see the conversation between the Traveler and the whales.
Official translation from the official novel of the movie:
[Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long?
They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief.
Where were you? it asked.
We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us.
By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths.
Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?'
They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive.
Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families?
They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer.
The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea.
Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories.
Fare thee well.
The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.
Thank you for taking the time to film from TV then uploading. I cried as I viewed this marvelous footage. Now, if only Iceland, Japan and Norway would STOP whaling, earth could be free of such a future. Roddenberry was a visionary in the 1960's. Live long and prosper to those writers who carry his visions such as this! Never belittle this film. What Gene Roddenberry saw such as shuttles, tricorders, etc. have come to pass. Thanks again!
Roddenberry was a satan worshiper (truly, his personal associations were L Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley) and for all we know, the artificial future he envisaged was planted in his mind by the devil, to spread to the world
for instance the concept of beaming from here to there implies there is no human soul ... think about how that impacts your subconscious
why you think there's such a slavic like following by "trekkies"? trek is a religious cult
anon at least have the courage to sign your own name to your (poor) attempts to troll.
watch Roddenberry's son's documentary and you'll learn what I learned about the man ... facts r facts
Regardless, Star Trek has valuable lessons to be learned.
Also, FYI, Roddenberry wasn't that involved in the making of this film.
I only we could rid the world of hunters
Such a great scene, even Spock laughed
Fascinating
So this magnificent scene begs the question: Are humpback whales from another planet? 🐳
Great acting by Leonard Nimoy as Spock finally engaging his emotions when he observes his hunch and guess ultimately saved Earth. His mother the Lady Amanda must be proud. 🖖👩👦
Well Richard to answer your question as to whether whales are from another planet we may never truly know there are a lot of mysteries still out there in our world just as there are probably money that lie beyond our star system.....
Sorry about where I said money, it should have been many. Typo alert!
We're fairly certain humpback whales evolved on Earth. The species that created the probe were likely very much like them though. Kinda like humans and Vulcans.
An accurate description of the whale's conversation with the probe, as written in the novelisation:
Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long?
They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief.
Where were you? it asked.
We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us.
By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths.
Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?'
They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive.
Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families?
They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer.
The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea.
Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories.
Fare thee well.
Yeah, they answered the Probe/Traveler's question. The answer saddened it that it and its creators didn't even consider their allies/friends were facing extinction and were unable to cry for help because they lacked the means to send an SOS. Their extinction was very much it's fault as much as the humans. It's why even though tempted, the Probe couldn't kill the humans: the probe would be no better than them.
So it accepts that it needs to leave and make its report and this time be more readily available to the young whales because their children will have questions about their lost ancestors and only it has the answers. And as the novels would show...the humans have learned of its' mistake with the whales and show it that they aren't beyond saving too.
Thank you for taking the time to write this! I did not understand this (almost) final scene, even though I felt happy 😊
you all realize in the movie and at the 2:10 mark in this video.. the probe said "I love you". and then the whales said.. "we love you"
@Hendrix King Erie, (as in Lake Erie)??? lol
Now they Send specially equipped Star Ships back in Time to Collect more Whales for the Future and protect the Earth, whilst cunningly disguising them as Japanese Whaling Vessels.
Clever!
With Vulcan crewmembers, to mind-meld with the whales and get their permission. Otherwise, it's just whale-napping.
It wasn’t entirely hunting that made the species disappear. It was those cunningly disguised star ships taking them to the 23rd century century too.
i like this alot i love the whales and the sound the probe makes very interesting
I want this Star Trek back! I dont want today´s Star Trek... its sad and depressing. I cant stand it.
Indeed. So much so-called "inclusiveness." The visionary imagination is gone. All that's left is the action.
Me too.
@@ericburow6436 It sucks, doesn't it?
Alien Probe fronm the Cetus Constellation. Cetus meaning whale.
maybe posible but the thing im curious is what are the whales and the probe saying to eachother , is there a possible tranlation
@@Joshuajacobson95 I'm wondering that too.
Translation is in the novelization of the movie.
@@Joshuajacobson95 in the opening scenes of the movie, the probe's signal is supposed to be translated as "Where are you?"
@@Joshuajacobson95 Official translation from the official novel of the movie:
[Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long?
They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief.
Where were you? it asked.
We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us.
By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths.
Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?'
They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive.
Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families?
They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer.
The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea.
Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories.
Fare thee well.
The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.
The special effects man was at the top of his game when he made the whales and the probe
This and the Undiscovered Country were my favorite films with the original crew.
Alien ship: "Hey whales. Nice to hear from you. Why were you silent for so long? We were starting to get pissed off!"
Whales: "The humans wiped out our entire species. Only we two survive, and that's only because of some magic we don't understand. Avenge us!"
Alien ship: "We will eliminate the land mammal vermin. You can try to re-create your species. However, genetic limitations make it very unlikely that you will survive."
Whales: "At least we will be avenged. Thanks you, space deus ex machina!"
OMG perfect
Amber,why you did captions from both probe and George the whale on star trek 4 the voyage home? They not talk you saw on my ABC affiliate wfaa-tv Dallas in 89-90.
"Oh yeah, we also nearly vaporized the oceans, which is your home, searching for you. Hope you don't mind that."
Lol
The whales don't know that they traveled in time.
Rest in peace Admiral / Ambassador Spock the original Captain Spock USS Enterprise NCC 1701 AND NCC 1701-A
Live long and prosper to the original cast
I love how Kirk pushed a reluctant spock into the water.
That is one big tootsie roll
Looked like a pipe with some dirt inside.
Finding out what that ship was in space and it purpose will be one of the greatest Star Trek mysteries of all time.
Someone actually took the time to hold their phone up to their tv to record this for gootube
3:30
Spock is laughing?! Smiling?
I think he's grimacing because of the salt water. I don't know though. It looks a lot like he might be.
This had to be fun for the crew.
Good thing that all of them knew how to swim.
I think that's a little less of "Spock smiling" than it is Leonard Nimoy slipping out of character for a moment.
Best part of the movie. Celebration of the restoration of Earth
If you go to the book of this story or the audiobook, you can hear the conversation between the whales and the planet killing thing up in space. They conversed one with another.
Shatner's toupee held up pretty well in the water.
23rd century make-up technology.
I,liked this one best out of all the trek movies,,
God bless our whales
I think it's funny when right at the end Gillian is talking to Kirk after he's demoted to Captain, and he stops her and says, wait where are you going? She says something about how she got aboard a ship and that she has "200 years of ketchup learning to do" That never makes sense to me. Why does she have to learn about ketchup for the next 200 years?
It would take too long to learn about mustard.
Catch-up learning
Let's face it......if Kirk had looked like he did in the 1960's version, she would've hung on to him.
Kirk was 55 years old by this point.
What good is a 55-year-old to a 27-year-old???
Catch-up.
Ya insipid fuck.
The one person on Earth who wasn't celebrating was the Klingon ambassador who called for Kirk's head at the start of the movie as his people lost their chance to conquer the Federation when Kirk saved Earth and with it, the heart of Starfleet and the Federation. This made him even MORE determined to see Kirk pay for his "crimes" against the Klingon people by not letting them conquer and enslave the races of the Federation.....
Imagine a pool party with the TOS crew. :)
you realized how far star trek has fallen after watching this scene. how sad.
Interestingly, most people here would disagree with you.
Out of context, this is the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Sad that you ruin this discussion by a foul obscenity.. is that the best you can do?
@@TheRichardSpearman yes I agree. It's a beautiful scene that doesn't deserve that language
Dont feed the troll people!
So long and thanks for all the fish
best star trek ever
The most spectacular and amazing element of this clip is that the glue holding William Shatner's wig can withstand the rigours of water (not to mention wig shrinkage when wet) the wonders of the modern age, ya can't beat it.
Raphael Perales it’s amazing to think he was bald irl when Star Trek started in the 60s, and they had to weave a hairpiece onto Shatner’s Head every day in the make up chair, and no one was the wiser.
Maybe he got a Morrie brand wig like in Goodfellas!
Donald Trump is the most recent recipient of this technology.
Actually, Humpback whales are not the endangered ones in the modern era. It is blue whales and bowhead whales where the situation is dire.
Spock I think explained that Humpback Whales went extinct in the 21st century so it's likely that Earth's environmental conditions continued to deteriorate and this combined with World War III and the aftermath likely reduced their numbers to the point of no return.
I get what you're saying though, blue whales and bowhead whales would be the ones more likely to die out.
Today another dire situation is the grey whale as well there are 14,500 individuals almost equivalent to the blue whale due to sea ice retreats
What i was like when I saw humpbacks in Juan de fuca
The alien race that sent the probe must have been whale-like!
it makes sense. I would say they need to follow it back to its owners and make peace with them. Just its power source alone was able to destroy live on earth if they didn't get back in time.
Acquatic Xindi
STRANGE title ~ "Whales Communicate Probe".
El lejos el mejor episodio de viaje a las estrellas !!!🐳🐳
I love this scene. Always wondered how saavik would have been in this scene.
Interesting thought. There was a line of dialogue which never made it into the final film explaining why Saavik chose to stay behind on Vulcan. Apparently she was pregnant with Spock's child as a result of her mating with him during his Pon farr in the previous film. Saavik was originally slated to return in STVI, but her role was rewritten into that of Lt. Valeris.
@@sephservant Just as well. The idea of Saavik framing Kirk and McCoy doesn't settle well with me.
So did starfleet send ships after the whale probe. I can’t believe they would of forgotten to.
Wonders if the signal came from the zindi aquatics
Even the Borg found it difficult to destroy the problem. I don't think xindi are that resilient. Nevertheless, a good question.
@@pviveknair also you do have to remember one thing by that point I believe the five Xindi races had become part of the Federation so it wouldn't have been them that sent the probe.
I found this whole movie funny because of Spock trying to use slang & the rest of the crew looking like idiots.
"One damn minute captain"
This movie is priceless. I'm glad Sarek was included off and on during the film
Such a fun feel good and gooey inside movie.
when that other whale went on a nosedive, I was sad thinking it did not survive the trip or the polluted water. thank god i was just communicating with them
In the 23rd century the water wouldn't be polluted anymore
No, but the water must've been close to 90 degrees F., due to global warming, in which the temperature of the oceans didn't stop rising until the late 21st Century.
@@MrDavidh4another risk is kelp disappeared by the time they need them to remove itches and parasites unless a lab cloned the kelp they need to survive
Translation
Probe - Hello , Helllo !!! Whales are you there ?
Whale - huh , Hello . Ya gotta give me a sec , I have just gone through some crazy shit.
Probe - We have traveled really far to tell you that Knight takes Pawn . Your move.
Whale - What ???? Well huh ….,.. Rook to take Knight .
Probe - Ok …..Be back in a bit.
Whale - Nice talking to ya.
( Probe returning home humming a tune. )
Probe: we missed the finale of Friends. What happened?
Whale: Ross and Rachel got back together. It was nothing you hadn't seen before.
#HEY They built a much more Vulcan Spock in the 2009 - 2013 films, whereas the classic Spock demonstrated human emotions like smile and happiness much more easily.
Why is a sequel in a franchise from a major motion picture corporation playing on the Independent Film Channel?
ForceMaximus84 lol because they too appreciate the classics. Big Hollywood or not
Did this movie have some subtitles, at the bottom of the screen; to show what the whale and the probe, were saying to each other??? Up until this point of time there wasn't Any Humpback whales, left in Any Oceans.
Whatever happened to Dr. Jillian Taylor after the events of Star Trek IV and was assigned to a science vessel?
0:20 Ghostbusters?! Fuck yes! Im calling in sick from work!
My favorite Star Trek movie!
For those who jokes about Shatner's hair. His so called toupee did not fall off in the water did it. Why because its his real hair.
This is true although I will add this they did have to give the male characters sideburn extensions but yeah I think at that point Bill shatner still had real hair I don't think he had a toupee yet! 😊
Thanks Friends.
See You.
Never take any creature for granted.
Shatner tires to dunk nimoy
A whale from another galaxy! OMG!!:-)
SPACE WHALES!
" t'sokey, man, t'sokey"
I'm surprised none of the crew caught colds from being in the water for that long.
Space the final frontier These Are the Voyages of the Starship Enterprise to
seek out new life and new civilizations
I want to know how the message traveled so fast, and who built the ship
In the Probe novelization when Spock mind-melded with the whale probe, he learned that the aliens who built it were of similar features to the humpback whales. The movie established that the race had been communicating with the whales 10 million years ago.
ladyfire44 " Only human arrogance would assume that the message *MUST* be meant for man ". Spock was right.
@@danielappleton6382 Spock's always right
The whales' ancestors must have built the spaceship with their opposable thumbs and dexterous appendages.....
@@jenpeterson3712 Except for the part where he tells Gillian that he likes Italian.
To this day the probe noise scarese
Anybody who knows about the currents in sanfransico bay would be like dont throw in the water I might die.
At 1:25 you can see an eye in the middle of that blue sphere. At least on blu ray. Makes you wonder.🤔
My favorite part
It would be nice to have some subtitles, to know what the whales were saying to the probe, and vice versa.
Subtitles were considered, but rejected. But there is a translation in the official novelised version:
[Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long?
They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief.
Where were you? it asked.
We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us.
By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths.
Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?
They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive.
Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families?
They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer.
The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea.
Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories.
Fare thee well.
During the communication the probe was asking why the whales haven't been in contact with them for centuries. George(the male humpback) sadly explained that man was heavily hunting them down and their race went extinct. He and his mate, Gracie, came from the past to help save earth and speak on Kirk and his crew's behalf. Upon learning what happened to the whales, the probe asked if they wanted it to destroy humanity. George refused stating not all mankind are terrible people using Kirk, his crew and Dr. Gillian as prime examples. The probe accepts their request and deactivates it's probing device. Thanking George and Gracie for speaking to it, the probe leaves to restore the powers to the Space Dock and the ships.
@@Goodiesfanful The Probe and the Whales sound like they're fairly alien in mindset when compared to Humans and other Humanoid races, like they barely acknowledge the existence of Humanity and land dwelling lifeforms.....
@@ladyfire44 Yeah, the Humans of the 23rd century shouldn't be wiped out for the crimes of some of their ancestors and George and Gracie realized this which pleases me.
ryan macdonald you are not fat wrong. In the Star Trek wiki the probe and the aliens who built it regarded humans as “mites”.
HOLD STEADY !!!!!!.....AND DONT BACK DOWN !!!!!!!!!
...they say the sea is cold but it contains the warmest blood of all 🖖
Ghostbusters next!!? Hell ya!
Biollante 0:48 0:53 - 0:56
How about a ST movie version of "Rendevous With Rama"? Interesting to see them "sail the cylindrical sea"!
I wonder who sent the probe. Also wonder what happened to the lady who stays in 23rd century.
She studies the 2-300 years of science she missed and becomes a science officer, if I'm not mistaken.
SEEING YOU NOW !!!
It's amazing the whales don't say "Level this planet"!
If Jumping the Shark represents the lowest point of a series, Time Travelling the Whale should represent an unexpectedly good late entry, as in: "That new X-Files really time travelled the whale".
It's called Growing the Beard and it's all due to William Riker's beard in season 2 of TNG.
In HAWAII, whales are protected by the government because in the early years ships would hunt whales for their fat.Just like the great white sharks,because they have been found to go to HAWAII to have their babies.
Best part of the movie
Family guy referenced this in it's cruise ship episode
So humpback whales knew about aliens before we did. Why didn’t they tell us?! 😮
2020 and we get an 80s pirate copy of Star trek, thanks poster, you got any fuzzy clips of nightmare on elm st?
This is the only real whale 🐳 film in the entire movie. I wonder if thats Humphrey the lost whale in SF Bay.
3:14 Don't pretend this never happened!!!
YES SPOCK AND KIRK AND SCOTTY!
And to this day it is still unknown if the Saratoga survived on emergency power.
I believe they did and they went into stasis so they probably survived. Although Jesus himself knows the guys that were in charge of starfleets tug ships probably earned a buttload of overtime pay hauling in all those disabled ships!
In the novel, the captain of the Saratoga had more sense than the others. She ordered all but her essential crew into stasis to wait out the crisis rather than risk further draining the reserves when she noticed that trying to communicate was costing power. Her ship was hauled in, but she had the fewest casualties.
Their frozen bodies were revived in the 26th century and they became a bunch of terrorists, overtaking a spaceship in the future.