Always can count on Nick for an honest and down to earth review instead of reading the HP figures, throwing diamonds everywhere and using every word in the thesaurus to make the car sound more than what it actually is. Still a beautiful car though, even though its "heaver"
The expression "damned with faint praise" springs to mind here. At least we have classical music playing in the intro / outro with this sport classic review... nice synergy!😊
Its a great investment, I think it's more geared towards older buyers who remember the "good old days" of the 911 who care more about the styling than the overall performance. It's only worth the price because it will not depreciate like other 911's.
@@GarthGoldberg yea seriously - just because it looks somewhat different and is a limited edition, but lacks any of the specific features that makes it actually unique, im not so sure about it holding value...
@@GarthGoldbergyou clearly don’t know anything about Porsche limited edition vehicles then if you think it it won’t keep its value at minimum but more than likely it’ll increase 😂😂
@@owerr66lol😂😂 well it’s very obvious that you don’t have any knowledge about Porsche 911 models then. If you did then you’d know there’s almost 200% certainty that this car won’t lose any of its value
I ordered a well optioned Carrera in the summer of 21. Couldn't get an S allocation w/o ADM so I snagged a Base allocation. It's my 3rd 911 in the last 10 yrs (964, 997). I've owned various British sports cars, sporty Japanese coupes in the 90's, an assortment of hot rods (e.g., K20 swapped X1/9), a Vette or two, some hot rod Audis, and a number of other interesting cars. The 992 - in base form - is the best car I've ever had. It has all aspects of the friction circle covered while being supremely comfortable. The 3 liter engine has lots of induction noise, pretty much sounding like an NA motor. Next week, I will have an APR Stage 1 tune installed. The new torque curve gets to 425ftlbs @ 2250 rpm staying above that figure until 5300rpm. From there it drops to 325lbft at red line. So a comparatively flat torque curve.
I think all of the 911s look fantastic especially the convertible models. However this classic aesthetically looks just that, ‘classic’ it reminds me of all those porsches’ from my childhood and beyond. The price is astonishing but to own a Porsche is exclusive so to be very exclusive you have to pay. Great vid Nick and look forward to many more ….. cheers 🇬🇧
When I traded my 991 turbo for a 992 GTS 4 I worried I would miss the torque . Definitely miss the “wall” of torque that the 991 turbo had but in the real world the GTS feels almost as quick. Imagine the beautiful sport classic with a PDK and the available torque increase. It would not only look great but feel special too.
It depends if you buy your P cars as an investment or to drive. Drivers will buy a GTS or GT3. Investors will buy a Sport Classic or GT3. Masochistic investor/drivers will buy a GT3RS
Collectors who buy pieces for speculating "investment" are easily the most boring part of any enthusiast following whether it's cars, watches, records, guitars, and on and on.
The Sport Classic is about going faster, its a GranTourer that comes with All the Style you could want from a 911, I like the overall package. Its great, but that price makes it unobtainable. Normally I dont go for watered down versions but that " Classic interieur" should be available on other models too, a Targa would wear this very well :)
I'd just get the GTS with the Heritage interior and add a duck tale after-market. These things are going for double that at $580 on the used market by the way. That seems nuts for a 6-speed, some trim, and a Turbo body with no vents on the rear quarter. A sport classic at $580 is the same as Leo the tile guy talking crypto at the gas station- a sure sign of the top and time to get out.
Cars are made for driving. And driving the sport classic isn't any better than driving a GTS . So let the collectors collect and let me drive my GT3. Thank you for your honest review. Great as always.
I'm over 50 I've not had a bump in my torque curve in years.. Harry's probably right. With the means it's easy.. buy both keep this one for sunday's and churning
Hi Nick, Thank you for a great video. A wonderful car, great lines and really interesting interior. But WOW that's some pice tag 300,000! to pricy for me. Thanks again
it's not 300k, it's actually 500+k in the real market. But great insight in this video! I have no idea on the unique torque levels. It's the car for the hardcore manual tranny guys, willing to compromise a whole lot over transmission choice (reduced power, 3x the price, increased lag, reduced sound). Suits my friend perfectly, he has a manual-or-nothing garage
It looks fantastic and I love the upholstery however in the U.K. reseller prices are in excess of £300k highway robbery. It would be cheap to do PTS and custom interior
Love the Classic, and GTS. But worth the $$$, if it's a second car for sundays and plenty of money, yes, but I wouldn't drive it daily. Great investment. But as a daily, I'd get a GTS, then put on an after market DB Carbon ducktail made in DE (OEM I believe?).
Pretty and due to limited run desirable, but yeah, pick a rwd gts and you'll have 95% of the experience for way less etc. Many SC will sit as locked investments sadly.
A friends Brother has one….sitting in a warehouse. He mention there was a recall and had to take it back to the dealer. He waited the 3 hours, wanted to make sure no one took it for a test drive.
Is it me or is there an audio desync? Edit: it was just a few scenes where you were narrating while showing your face, made it seem like there was a desync. Lovely car, it's a classic! More passion than reason!
I feel that my 981 Cayman GTS has the best value for money vs performance, handling, sound & sheer fun of driving, so I am not in any hurry to spend 8 times as much for a limited edition with moot advantages & so many negatives, especially turbo lag.
If you want a garage queen, or something for Saturday coffee shop runs, the Sport Classic is you choice. Investment? Harder call, but more dependent on plenty stupid money and credit which is now in a multi decade contraction. 😂. But, if you want an IC car that behaves like an IC car and is great fun to drive seems like a GTS or lower spec is the way to go. Personally, I want a Dakar.
@@ottomondo1368 even with the low rate fun money drying up, the number of people with money to spend on luxury car items has gone up much faster than the number of Porsche sports cars made. 911 production has gone up from about 23,000 units a year back in the late 1990s to about 38,000 a year now. However much of the production is now shared with China and other locations so that the number of 911s sold in the United States has actually been limited to about 10,000 a year since the around 2005. Tons of people in the US have high end tech jobs that didn't even exist 20 years ago... There aren't many direct competitors to Porsche either (car companies that make a high end, reliable, and usable sports cars). They have their niche market cornered, no wonder prices have gone up so much with slight supply curve disruptions...
It does look great and reminds me of the first 911 I ever saw. I think that giant whale tail is what captured my imagination the first time. Insane how the pricing goes up. As I make more money, the goalpost keeps moving. Starting to look like I will never buy a new 911.
If you have the purchase price readily available without financing then the first owner is basically getting to drive a 911 for free for the warranty period. That makes it a no brainer for people in that situation in my opinion.
Since allocation would be limited to a handful of people, no, not worth even considering compared to an obtainable GTS. Looks very nice but really only built to be a garage queen/collector car.
Wow I already wasn't a fan of this thing before I heard that the Sport Classic is supposed to cost $300,000. Porsche is really good at milking their fan base.
Porsche doing its supreme marketing again, targeting the investor/collector to reap huge margins. Is this the first time that Porsche has produced a higher cost 911 variant that doesn’t actually deliver significant driving/performance/handling/styling benefits for the huge amount of extra money?
It is not worth the price from a perspective of value. However, it is worth the price when you look at it from a cost perspective. If you have the oppertunity to buy this car it will likely be very inexpensive overall.
The 992 is a nice looking car, I bought a C2S new back in 2020 and liked it a lot. Bought a new M3 xDrive after that for $50k less and liked it just as much though. Nearly $300k for the “Sport Classic” is nuts. One reason I always loved Porsche is because they were different than Ferrari and Lamborghini. I no longer feel that way. They have become Ferrari and Lambo wannabes with price minus the great sounding engine (aside from the GT3’s). Driving a non GT3 911 at lower speeds is nothing thrilling because the engine sound is mediocre at best. The prices they are charging for 911’s now are insane but as long as people keep paying it, they will charge it. When I bought my C2S I had plans to move on to a GT3 but once corporate greed took over, I realized how overpriced 911’s have become and stepped away. Porsche made it easy not to miss the 911 with their prices increases.
I suppose when it comes to cars, if you're not going to lose money then the Sports Classic is worth it. But, one should look at where the $100K difference in price might be invested if not tied up in this car. For my money I'd stick to a GTS and put the $100K in the market. I think I would be just as happy and have money to spend! 😁
It's definitely NOT worth it if you're trying to buy a 911. However, it is worth it for car collectors who have a love for Porsche and want to buy something special which can duel as an investment.
I am a Porsche lover - but I would pass on this one, it's not pushing any buttons for me. Great review though as always. What is your planned next 911 Nick? you should have still the great classic convertible right ?
The interior is sublime so are the wheels. But I think at $280,000 plus of course the Mark Up that Porsche dealers will add to it. Will bump it to $350,000 so no way. Not worth that. Far better cars on the market for that money. I’d get a 911 T or S, and spec it to $200,000 with all the goodies like that Heritage interior, P.T.S paint, And save the money.
So essentially, you are saving $85k on an S or T vs the MSRP of this Sport Classic. The S or T will eventually depreciate, as things are returning to normal, whereas the Sport Classic will always be worth its MSRP, hedging the depreciation curve.
![My Week With The 911 Sport Classic [Better Than My GT3?]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eGEVEWgkvcE/mqdefault.jpg)
Always can count on Nick for an honest and down to earth review instead of reading the HP figures, throwing diamonds everywhere and using every word in the thesaurus to make the car sound more than what it actually is. Still a beautiful car though, even though its "heaver"
I have to throw in a few spelling mistakes so you know it is really me!
We miss u so much 😢
Seriously, I have dreams of riding with Nick every night
Yeah. Sort it out. I want more free content
@@obi-wankenobi7160riding with Nick or riding Nick?
Despite the drawbacks you pointed out compared to the GTS, the Classic is truly beautiful to look at.
The expression "damned with faint praise" springs to mind here. At least we have classical music playing in the intro / outro with this sport classic review... nice synergy!😊
Its a great investment, I think it's more geared towards older buyers who remember the "good old days" of the 911 who care more about the styling than the overall performance. It's only worth the price because it will not depreciate like other 911's.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that depreciation. There’s a lot of room for it to fall.
@@GarthGoldberg yea seriously - just because it looks somewhat different and is a limited edition, but lacks any of the specific features that makes it actually unique, im not so sure about it holding value...
@@GarthGoldbergyou clearly don’t know anything about Porsche limited edition vehicles then if you think it it won’t keep its value at minimum but more than likely it’ll increase 😂😂
@@owerr66lol😂😂 well it’s very obvious that you don’t have any knowledge about Porsche 911 models then. If you did then you’d know there’s almost 200% certainty that this car won’t lose any of its value
The above discussion based on the UK allocation is purely academic as 99.9% of interested enthusiasts won’t even get near an allocation slot.
"Whoring itself like an 80's pin-up girl."
Comedy gold as always Nick.
Best objective review of this car out there.
My uncle put that particular Mozart score into “A Spy Who Loved Me” James Bond movie.
I ordered a well optioned Carrera in the summer of 21. Couldn't get an S allocation w/o ADM so I snagged a Base allocation. It's my 3rd 911 in the last 10 yrs (964, 997). I've owned various British sports cars, sporty Japanese coupes in the 90's, an assortment of hot rods (e.g., K20 swapped X1/9), a Vette or two, some hot rod Audis, and a number of other interesting cars. The 992 - in base form - is the best car I've ever had. It has all aspects of the friction circle covered while being supremely comfortable. The 3 liter engine has lots of induction noise, pretty much sounding like an NA motor. Next week, I will have an APR Stage 1 tune installed. The new torque curve gets to 425ftlbs @ 2250 rpm staying above that figure until 5300rpm. From there it drops to 325lbft at red line. So a comparatively flat torque curve.
In the Uk that will unfortunately make the Porsche warranty invalid if you still have one.
@@hpman911 Invalidates the power train warranty in the States as well.
I became friendly with a salesman at one dealership, and a service manager at another. Both told me the base model is all you really need.
Harry is ALWAYS right. Even mrs M would say so
Finally ... another vid from our Kiwi wizard. Love you Nick!
not literally..
Our love is more a physical agreement...
Fantastic Nick - Awesome review ! ❤
Great summarized review
This car's value is in the fact that it'll be collectable, but to actually daily drive, I prefer the GTS for all the reasons outlined in this video.
GTS in Irish Green with that Heritage interior is my dream set-up... The lines on the sport classic is brilliant 💎
Wow. Absolute stunner
Beautiful car. That ad Porsche did for the SC was so charming
He lives!
Lovely to see, cheers Nick 👍
I think all of the 911s look fantastic especially the convertible models. However this classic aesthetically looks just that, ‘classic’ it reminds me of all those porsches’ from my childhood and beyond. The price is astonishing but to own a Porsche is exclusive so to be very exclusive you have to pay. Great vid Nick and look forward to many more ….. cheers 🇬🇧
Thank you for another great review Nick! But it was too short… finished the video before I finished the dishes…😢
When I traded my 991 turbo for a 992 GTS 4 I worried I would miss the torque . Definitely miss the “wall” of torque that the 991 turbo had but in the real world the GTS feels almost as quick. Imagine the beautiful sport classic with a PDK and the available torque increase. It would not only look great but feel special too.
Porsche sales shakes in their boots when you review!
Brilliant review, thank you good sir
Kudos to your friend - first for being able to get an SC allocation and second for actually driving the damn thing (3200mi already)!
Nick, kudos to "tellin' it like it is."
You're fabulous Nick
It depends if you buy your P cars as an investment or to drive. Drivers will buy a GTS or GT3. Investors will buy a Sport Classic or GT3. Masochistic investor/drivers will buy a GT3RS
Collectors who buy pieces for speculating "investment" are easily the most boring part of any enthusiast following whether it's cars, watches, records, guitars, and on and on.
@@oidoglr amen
Ha! This reminds me of that video you did of the 996! 90% as good, I bet!
[Stunning photography, my friend. Brilliant video.]
Save $150k Get an S or a GTS with the heritage design package interior. And there are aftermarket companies who can fit a duck tail spoiler.
If you want a collector car it is worth it. If you want a fun sports car then get something cheaper and faster.
I think you either either buy the base model or a GT3.
It does looks awesome however. Really needs the GT3 engine in it.
The Sport Classic is about going faster, its a GranTourer that comes with All the Style you could want from a 911, I like the overall package.
Its great, but that price makes it unobtainable. Normally I dont go for watered down versions but that " Classic interieur" should be available on other models too, a Targa would wear this very well :)
The Heritage design interior is available on the Targa! It is a $16k USD option
Guess I'll keep my S and figure a way to duck out the spoiler. Thanks Nick
The most beautiful 911!
I'd just get the GTS with the Heritage interior and add a duck tale after-market. These things are going for double that at $580 on the used market by the way. That seems nuts for a 6-speed, some trim, and a Turbo body with no vents on the rear quarter.
A sport classic at $580 is the same as Leo the tile guy talking crypto at the gas station- a sure sign of the top and time to get out.
Cars are made for driving. And driving the sport classic isn't any better than driving a GTS . So let the collectors collect and let me drive my GT3. Thank you for your honest review. Great as always.
The limited number produced will allow it to hold value or appreciate but only if you keep the miles low. Cool looking for sure, though.
Worth from a collectors standpoint but a silly Choice for Those who want to Drive and have fun.
The Sports Classic is definitely worth it purely for the fact that it won’t depreciate in valve. You also get that gorgeous visual 😊
Gorgeous shape , review how great the standard Carrera , C2 .
Thanks Nick, maybe time to review a 992 C2
I'm over 50 I've not had a bump in my torque curve in years..
Harry's probably right. With the means it's easy.. buy both keep this one for sunday's and churning
Hi Nick, Thank you for a great video. A wonderful car, great lines and really interesting interior. But WOW that's some pice tag 300,000! to pricy for me. Thanks again
it's not 300k, it's actually 500+k in the real market. But great insight in this video! I have no idea on the unique torque levels. It's the car for the hardcore manual tranny guys, willing to compromise a whole lot over transmission choice (reduced power, 3x the price, increased lag, reduced sound). Suits my friend perfectly, he has a manual-or-nothing garage
I'd buy two
It looks fantastic and I love the upholstery however in the U.K. reseller prices are in excess of £300k highway robbery. It would be cheap to do PTS and custom interior
The biggest difference would be that Sport Classic is investment grade whereas GTS is a depreciating asset.
as long as you don't drive it. i guess being this limited they'll mostly sit in garages though and those people have 911s they can drive.
My favorite part of this car are the green dials. :).
Power curve meant to reflect NA power delivery perhaps
Love the Classic, and GTS. But worth the $$$, if it's a second car for sundays and plenty of money, yes, but I wouldn't drive it daily. Great investment.
But as a daily, I'd get a GTS, then put on an after market DB Carbon ducktail made in DE (OEM I believe?).
It is a Porsche Manual Continental GT. Perfect!
Thanks Nick! Love your videos. What color is that? Looks like Ice Grey Metallic, or is it PTS?
It looks to be the launch color for the Sport Classic: Sport Grey Metallic.
Limiting the torque was likely more about keeping these things from wrapping themselves around telephone poles than it was protecting the 7MT
Another great video. Where are the dogs???
Nick you seem to have a liking for Mozart’s pieces. You do good reviews and I enjoy the Mozarts as well
My uncle added that piece to “The Spy Who Loved Me” James Bond movie (he was the sound producer of the first 20 years of the James Bond movies).
For that kind of money I can find a nicely equipped 1983 Chevy Citation 😀
Pretty and due to limited run desirable, but yeah, pick a rwd gts and you'll have 95% of the experience for way less etc. Many SC will sit as locked investments sadly.
I have a friend who owns an example of this car. The Sport Classic is simply a beautiful car.
A friends Brother has one….sitting in a warehouse. He mention there was a recall and had to take it back to the dealer. He waited the 3 hours, wanted to make sure no one took it for a test drive.
Is it me or is there an audio desync?
Edit: it was just a few scenes where you were narrating while showing your face, made it seem like there was a desync.
Lovely car, it's a classic! More passion than reason!
I feel that my 981 Cayman GTS has the best value for money vs performance, handling, sound & sheer fun of driving, so I am not in any hurry to spend 8 times as much for a limited edition with moot advantages & so many negatives, especially turbo lag.
I’ll keep my 991.2 Turbo S!!!
Snap !!
@NickMurray hi, I've noticed your recent car reviews are a bit shorter than usual, any reason why?
I look at it this way: the GTS is for driving, the Sport Classic is for investing. Now all we need is a modern 911 that is both those things.
Nick, any chance of a review of the Dakar?
Honestly, the torque limiter might be actually a good thing, nothing beats a smooth power delivery through such a wide rpm range!
If you want a garage queen, or something for Saturday coffee shop runs, the Sport Classic is you choice. Investment? Harder call, but more dependent on plenty stupid money and credit which is now in a multi decade contraction. 😂. But, if you want an IC car that behaves like an IC car and is great fun to drive seems like a GTS or lower spec is the way to go. Personally, I want a Dakar.
@@ottomondo1368 cool choice, personally i think a Carrera T would be the best bang for buck because I'd require a manual..
@@ottomondo1368 even with the low rate fun money drying up, the number of people with money to spend on luxury car items has gone up much faster than the number of Porsche sports cars made. 911 production has gone up from about 23,000 units a year back in the late 1990s to about 38,000 a year now. However much of the production is now shared with China and other locations so that the number of 911s sold in the United States has actually been limited to about 10,000 a year since the around 2005. Tons of people in the US have high end tech jobs that didn't even exist 20 years ago... There aren't many direct competitors to Porsche either (car companies that make a high end, reliable, and usable sports cars). They have their niche market cornered, no wonder prices have gone up so much with slight supply curve disruptions...
It does look great and reminds me of the first 911 I ever saw. I think that giant whale tail is what captured my imagination the first time. Insane how the pricing goes up. As I make more money, the goalpost keeps moving. Starting to look like I will never buy a new 911.
Here for the classical music
Collectible
Finally this man is seeing the GTS as a great car even if it is to knock down this legendary car
If you have the purchase price readily available without financing then the first owner is basically getting to drive a 911 for free for the warranty period. That makes it a no brainer for people in that situation in my opinion.
911 Sport Classic. It's a heaver!
Love my 992 Carrera S but 300K….Holy Hell!
I'd remove image stabilization in the camera (gopro?) and do it in post. the car gets squashed and wobbly right at the beginning. just my 2c
Just go away.
Agree. Cars these days really could use more waterfowl styling
That's what she said.
Looks great, but that seems scant compensation for 300k.
SIR BLAU TO THE RESCUE
I have also a 928 S4 with the same interior and no need for a 911 with also this interior.
Looks like 4K camera
Is that Meissen Blue?? 👀
The GTS is quicker and half the price? 😮 2:46
Since allocation would be limited to a handful of people, no, not worth even considering compared to an obtainable GTS. Looks very nice but really only built to be a garage queen/collector car.
I call it a missed opportunity, imagine the 🦆 tail beauty with a GT3 powertrain , GTS suspension, and same interior
Except for the limited edition, I think even the Carrera S is better than the Sport Classic in all areas at less than half the price.
Wow I already wasn't a fan of this thing before I heard that the Sport Classic is supposed to cost $300,000. Porsche is really good at milking their fan base.
The quack in Porsche here isn't the spoiler, it's the driver.
Porsche doing its supreme marketing again, targeting the investor/collector to reap huge margins. Is this the first time that Porsche has produced a higher cost 911 variant that doesn’t actually deliver significant driving/performance/handling/styling benefits for the huge amount of extra money?
It is not worth the price from a perspective of value. However, it is worth the price when you look at it from a cost perspective. If you have the oppertunity to buy this car it will likely be very inexpensive overall.
I guess it has to be worth it as it effectively cost’s nothing to own except fuel, insurance and servicing. Not many cars can offer that !
The 992 is a nice looking car, I bought a C2S new back in 2020 and liked it a lot. Bought a new M3 xDrive after that for $50k less and liked it just as much though.
Nearly $300k for the “Sport Classic” is nuts. One reason I always loved Porsche is because they were different than Ferrari and Lamborghini. I no longer feel that way. They have become Ferrari and Lambo wannabes with price minus the great sounding engine (aside from the GT3’s). Driving a non GT3 911 at lower speeds is nothing thrilling because the engine sound is mediocre at best.
The prices they are charging for 911’s now are insane but as long as people keep paying it, they will charge it. When I bought my C2S I had plans to move on to a GT3 but once corporate greed took over, I realized how overpriced 911’s have become and stepped away. Porsche made it easy not to miss the 911 with their prices increases.
I suppose when it comes to cars, if you're not going to lose money then the Sports Classic is worth it. But, one should look at where the $100K difference in price might be invested if not tied up in this car. For my money I'd stick to a GTS and put the $100K in the market. I think I would be just as happy and have money to spend! 😁
My wife said Nick is a god-like combination of Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise.
That woman needs to say no to drugs
It's definitely NOT worth it if you're trying to buy a 911. However, it is worth it for car collectors who have a love for Porsche and want to buy something special which can duel as an investment.
Very nice & exclusive, but not for me at nearly $300k.
The price difference (in Europe) between T and S is so tiny that it’s not even worth considering the T.
Nick, I saw some news Boxster will be all electric starting 2025. Is that correct?
Nick, I'll choose a lighter car over a "heaver" one every time. Cheers!
I am a Porsche lover - but I would pass on this one, it's not pushing any buttons for me. Great review though as always. What is your planned next 911 Nick? you should have still the great classic convertible right ?
He does, I live two houses away, and the convertible is still in the garage.
Yes I am considering a 992.2 Carrera S next year but happy with 993 at the moment.
@@NickMurray Well I thought you would chose the GTS after this review ;)
@@cheemomugdoo799 Thank you neighbor. :)))
@@NickMurray When will we see the 992.2 configurator and accompanying video? :)
I prefer the 997 Sports Classic.
The interior is sublime so are the wheels. But I think at $280,000 plus of course the Mark Up that Porsche dealers will add to it. Will bump it to $350,000 so no way. Not worth that. Far better cars on the market for that money.
I’d get a 911 T or S, and spec it to $200,000 with all the goodies like that Heritage interior, P.T.S paint, And save the money.
So essentially, you are saving $85k on an S or T vs the MSRP of this Sport Classic. The S or T will eventually depreciate, as things are returning to normal, whereas the Sport Classic will always be worth its MSRP, hedging the depreciation curve.