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What Was Jurassic Park: San Diego? - The Lost World: Jurassic Park
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
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All right guys in this video I go into detail about just what exactly Jurassic Park: San Diego was supposed to be. This theme park that was only shown in The Lost World, actually happens to be the earliest incarnation of the Jurassic Park resort. Jurassic Park 2 doesn't really elaborate on what it really is all that much but there is more than enough information given in the film for us to have an idea on how Peter Ludlow would've completed it! :)
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And now the entire world is John Hammond's theme park. Congratulations, john! 👍
Now all of the children of the world can see his dinosaurs.
In their bedroom in the middle of the night.
A safari on a continental scale
Cant blame John. His last acts were to preserve and isolate the dinosaurs. Its the greed in his company that led to this
I honestly believe Jurassic Park: San Diego is a little inhumane as I feel the Safari concept of the Isla Nublar attraction is not only more exciting, but beneficial for the Dinosaurs as they still had an entire Island to roam.
In the San Diego attraction, they’re just locked away in pens, with barely any space and are constantly surrounded by tourists, further building their stress. If JW Evolution has told us anything, it’s that Dinosaurs hate being held in enclosures
Until youmplay sandbox mode and force a brachiosauraus in a pin that a stegosaurus wouldn't be happy in
So, the pitfalls of a regular zoo
A LITTLE INHUMANE? Try extremely!
As a native San Diegan I have a realistic-ish theory as to why Jurassic Park San Diego was shutdown and moved to Isla Nublar. The book mentioned that Hammond and InGen would have more autonomy and not be bound by strict laws of the government, Costa Rica or the United States. San Diego is a lot like its own unique place but its still bound to the laws of America and is also a military city (right next to downtown is the Navy and Marine bases, two of many) so Hammond would have to have dealt with that in San Diego.
But I think the big reason operation moved was simple: space. California is big sure but the inner city is very contained and its very hilly to boot. The San Diego zoo for instance is a huge zoo and has space for its animals but even today they face the problem of having enough room. Their enclosures are smaller and literally atop of hills and constrained to those limits of San Diego. Theres also a statement by Hammond about “building in Orlando” so he had different locations in mind. I think he chose to move operations not just for political reasons but because practically he could make Jurassic Park however he likes and with enough space for his dinosaurs. By the coast where a lot of development is in San Diego (and where the Zoo and SeaWorld are) there just is not enough room for dinosaurs to roam and mentally be okay. Thats why Isla Nublar makes a lot more sense.
Oh god and also comic con! Like thats another big major world attraction. They mention the chargers footba team in the movie but the chargers have always fucking sucked. Comic con meanwhile is where the real money is at.
Also, Isla Nublar is a lot safer at the off chance that the dinosaurs escape, they are contained to the island.
I feel like the political issue of having a zoo of natural history's equivalent of dragons next to a heavily populated city was more of an issue. I remember some of my cousins who went to elementary schools in the hills had lockdowns due to cougars wandering onto their campus. Imagine the upheaval at a school board meeting after something like a velociraptor gets out. As someone who worked at a zoo, it's a matter of WHEN an animal gets out rather than IF.
"The book mentioned"
That's the book, not the movie. The vast differences in the lore between these two sources make them incompatible with each other.
"Hammond and InGen would have more autonomy and not be bound by strict laws of the government, Costa Rica or the United States."
Yes and no. Isla Numbla still fell under Costa Rican law, even if InGen bought the island 100%, it would still be territorial property of Costa Rica and would still be under Costa Rican law. InGen chose Costa Rica because the laws where... laxer one might say. Long story short, in exchange for money and having InGen transfer some of their gene sequencers and super computers to Costa Rican territory, Costa Rican authorities where more than happy to look the other way on a lot of the s**t InGen was doing. If we go by the book lore. Movie lore doesn't mention any of this, just that Hammond leased an island from the Costa Rican government. So it would still, in movie lore, fall under Costa Rican laws.
"so Hammond would have to have dealt with that in San Diego."
Only if things failed and at the time, Hammond was 100% confident nothing would go wrong. His only real concern was dinosaurs escaping.
As we learned from Jurassic World: Evolution, you can build the perfect paddocks where all the dinosaurs are 100% content, and then a storm blows in and the Rex goes on a rampage and busts out. Or some disgruntled employees sabotage the park like petulant little children. Or in reality, Rexy just decides one day to have ago at the odd little hairless apes hanging around the other side of the fence. No joke, there's not a zoo in existence that hasn't had an animal escape. Hell, for that matter, there's not a farmer alive or dead that hasn't had at least 1 domesticated cow get out of the fenced in pasture. It happens to the best of them. Hammond knew this so he chose to give up on San Diego and instead invest on a site soooo far out into the ocean that even if a dino escaped it's paddock, it would be able to make it to the mainland without drowning.
I never knew how awesome Jurassic Park lore could get till I started watching your vids
You know, there is a potential thing for it in Jurassic World 3...any of the dinosaurs rounded up will need a storage facility...
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Yeah that would be cool! Even John Hammond knew San Diego would be a good fit.
You know, if you mix things in with the Jurassic Time excerpts, what if the plan was shifted to the "grander" option post cloning of a raptor on Sorna? We know the cloning started at Lockwoods estate with a trike, so what if the later production kind of made him realize that they needed space to up security there.
In the Lost World, it had only been abandoned for a few years. By the time of JW3, it would have been abandoned by at least a quarter century, assuming it wasn't demolished or used to make a normal zoo.
If it was the pit style one in the artwork, then it wouldn't take that long to bring it up to a workable level for the dinosaurs available. And that's if it was abandoned entirely.
Sure, you aren't going to have the nicely designed exhibits in the end, but a secure holding facility for animals...
Nice coincidence! was just looking up info on the San Diego park yesterday on Wiki's.
I have to say I am absolutely loving this channel.
Another fantastic video as always!
Hey thanks! :D
I would have loved to see a Jurassic Park San Diego. I absolutely love San Diego, I would love a Dinosaur Theme Park in that great city. Great Video, Klayton.
I hear they used to have a football team, but the owners selfishly moved them.
Goddamn Spanos family...
*I'm not making the same mistakes again.*
*No, you're making all new ones.*
Wait... The next movie might be the perfect opportunity to see this structure again ! We have escaped dinosaur, on the main land. What is the perfect structure ready to host potential capture dinosaur and is on the main land ? JP San Diego can be perfect for this.
It would be awesome if they did that!
The Tyrannosaurus is literally shown walking itself into the San Diego zoo in Fallen Kingdom. The dinosaurs are already mere miles from the old amphitheater, and the Tyrannosaurus is in San Diego itself. The original cloning lab under Lockwood manor being that close to San Diego can't be a coincidence.
KlingonCaptain Honestly, the makers of JW3 would shoot themselves in the foot if they didn't use this convenient plot-point
@@KlingonCaptain except for the fact that Lockwood Manor was confirmed to be in NORTHERN California not southern
I think it was crazy trying to bring dinosaurs to a city, that would have been much destruction
Malik Lander But then again, JP San Diego had actual moats like a real zoo that would've prevented the dinosaurs from escaping
@@manospondylus4896 Jurassic Park had actual moats as well, didn't stop Rexy one bit.
*Just saw Fallen Kingdom finally! Holy shit it was awesome! Watched it twice back to back!*
This is all Peter Ludlows fault. If he just watched The Lost World, he would have known that the T-Rex would break out and the San Diego Park won't work either.
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Hans Petrich. How could he watch a movie that he's in ?
He's not Deadpool
Next time i see a jurassic park/world employee im going to say "hey dont you work in that park they keep shutting down"
I clicked for some epic Jurassic Park talk not knowing it was new and once again I am more than pleased by a fantastic video! Also I was like 200 edit: the fact that you “loved” this comment Klayton Fioriti means a lot to me And I love your channel so much,thank you!
It's one thing putting dinosaurs on an island but bringing then to a city would be a complete disaster
As a San Diego resident, I am slightly touched at the mentioning of my rubbish town.
Am I the only one who thinks the CGI and overall look of the TRex in the first two movies are so much better than the new ones? Rexy is just much more intimidating. Think about the scene where Rexy attacks the Gallimimus vs Rexy in Jurrasic World...
Mike Brown's Mother i feel you on that but i feel like she got that intimidation back in the opening of jwfk
Jayden Jackson Yeah that was one of the few scenes I enjoyed. (Sadly the trailers ruined any surprises Fallen Kingdom would have had on me)
Mike Brown's Mother yeah you could’ve easily predicted things after the opening
Mike Brown's Mother the t rex in fallen kingdom looks more like the t rex from the first 2 then the 4th Jurassic park
Rob Gray the T rex from JW and JWFK is the same from 1st JP
Wish Sorna to come back
Elemental Jedi. It's Barren
Majority of the dinosaurs are dead on that Island
That's what we've been told by a promotional website. Doesn't mean they couldn't be wrong.
Just came back from the Styx concert and I'm treated to another awesome video! You're the man Klayton!
It might have failed to secure the dinosaurs anyway
safe and boring
triceratops and stegosaurus have shown to be far from safe, particularly in that scene :P
dodo2208 I do know about that
Super Saiyan Gamer God. Not if build moats around the carnivores
Zoos have been doing that for ages
Frank0221 how would it be boring? They're Fucking dinosaurs.
That could be brought back in JW3.
The dinosaurs are all on mainland. Maybe they could round them up and then enclose them. Again.
The f2p Pyro. It could be where all the dinosaurs Masie let loose could be sent to as a mean of holding til someone figures out what to do with them
The ones that live that is
Or Jurassic Park IV
I was watching "The lost world: Jurassic park", last night!
"And so the facility sits unused. Unfinished. When it could be ready to recieve vistiors less then a month." *Triceratops crashes the tent*
Great vid! :)
#unpopularopinion the lost world was my favorite movie of the Jurassic Park series 🤭
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My too
#evenmoreunpopularopinion mine was JP3
Frank0221 ew
Ha
Jurassic park san diego is also a monumentally bad idea. with just the space needed to house these animals. imagine keeping a brachiosaurus in an area that small? itd be horribly unhealthy.
mike polsom At least with Nublar’s safari idea, the dinosaurs had almost the entire Island to roam. I can only imagine the amount of stress of a Dino trapped in that San Diego attraction.
DenotheFreak even something small such as a Gallimimus would require kilometres worth of land to freely roam. With large animals the waste clean up would be constant as well. imagine the logistic issues of a park combined with the constant need of cleaning animal waste. if there's even a slight schedule hiccup a raptor could become infected with Dysentry or Cholera.
Plus a T-Rex place in inside of a Small area at that park would of gone mad and broke out to cause havoc in San Diego anyway
edward Keich right? i couldn't imagine how a bunch of investors and experts would O. K the project. The san diego idea would go up in smoke nearly immediately.
I bet thats why the park moved. Although they could have put Jurassic Park like in east San Diego (like how in real life San Diego Zoo has the wildanimal park in east San Diego county) it was probably for capitalistic reasons they didnt do that. For one thing east SD is rural and full of racists who dont like wildlife as much whereas the coast is where you have higher population and businesses. Its also where youve got other attractions like seaworld, the zoo, wild animal park, downtown, and the comic con once a year. Jurassic Park san diego would bank off of that and really conveniently how the airport and port of san diego are literally right next to it all (the airport is like right in the middle and not a far distance so tourists in theory could land and then take a ten minute drive to JP San Diego if it was a thing).
This is a pretty great outside the box thinking video. Never realized the potential of Jurassic park San Diego driving a plot
Ack, I would have loved to see more of this explored!! Clearly, I'm not alone!
I'm using this video for reference as I'm making San Diego in Jurassic World Evolution! Thank you my friend!
*Alert: fence broken*
I am so addicted to your content. I have loved the Jurassic Park films since 2nd grade and in 7th grade fell in love with the novels. Great job! I come back to your channel everyday!
I always thought Jurassic park San Diego was too small for the dinossaurs.
I subscribed to your channel, I never realized there was so much more to Jurassic Park than meets the eye
Dude, I've been watching your videos for the past few hours. I've been sharing them with my brother, because we're big JP/JW fans. We love dinos in general. These videos are amazing. Well done! Please don't ever stop!
Little did Klayton know, 4 years after he made this video, Jurassic Park: San Deigo would be featured in Jurassic World Evolution 2
Very interesting video! I never even knew I wanted to know this, but I am sure glad I did😁 Love your content man!
You're still cool for liking The Lost World the most.
I still appreciate the lengths you go to to make people realize how well made that movie is.
I never realized the San Diego Rex was the Buck! I thought it was the mother!
He said Buck ONLY!
You know, it’s amazing how much lore Klayton has covered, and how it’s so important to understand the franchise. (By the way i love your vids
Hey thanks man! I really appreciate that! :D
You always find topics that I would’ve never thought about.
Great work!
Excellent job 👏🏽
Bro you are one of my favorite youtubers keep going man
Great video as always! I never knew there was someone else who thought this in depth with the franchise, I look forward to your videos each time, thanks!
Was just researching this park myself. Crazy that there is no complete model of this park. Good video
Love love love your videos! Keep up the good work ❤️ 🦖🦕
I know I'm late but congrats on over 100k subs. It's been awesome to see you grow. You deserve it.
Oh hey thanks man that means a lot! :D
Great video! Always learning new stuff from you man! I live in San Diego and I remember when I was a kid and saw this in theaters I was stoked to think of that park actually happening.
i actually enjoy these videos so much, they explain everything i want to know about jurassic park. thanks man!
To be real with you I always had a problem with this and can see why John got rid of it, it was freaking crazy from these concepts art alone and seeing the park itself there are so many factors that spell out trouble, one being dinosaurs escaping on the mainland, second being how small these inclosers are, these animals would crap in these places. Not only that animal rights group for how they were being treated and a butt load of paperwork. The one on the island seems more logical as you had more open spaces to give your animals to the illusion of them being able to walks where ever they wanted.
Im at the waterpark... but I sat aside for this. A Klayton video can't wait!
I feel like the JP: The Lost World deserves it own spin off series. This could include events happening on Isla Sorna between The San Diego incident, illegal cloning of Spinosaur, and the ultimate demise of Isla Sorna in general.
When the Jurassic World Series comes to a close, we will get the action adventure game we all deserve and have been waiting for. When that happens, Jurassic Park San Diego will be a part of it. I really feel like the creative teams at Universal feel is scratching at the doors for more Jurassic stories. So much potential has been revealed. The DPG files opened up a million story possibilities. We haven’t see the last of Jurassic Park San Diego.
Hey Klayton! Love your videos keep up the good work! I was wondering if you could do a video on the topic of the original Aviary in the O.G. Jurassic Park? That’s something that I think would’ve been an interesting scene to see in JP.
Just got the 1st Jurassic Park book! Can't wait to be on the same level as you.😁
The person who disliked the video must be Ludlow XD
😂 "Are you there?"
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The enclosures look kinda small...
Zoos are already small.
Kenneth Satria Since in-universe it's just concept-art it might not have reflected the actual size of the exhibits and was just there to give an idea of the project
Ooh...
Naw, not the zoo I've been going to
Plus animals nowadays aren't crazy large
Awesome video, very interesting.
Love your videos Klayton, amazing how far you’ve come in the past year. Keep up the great work mate 👍
Hey thanks dude! :D
You have to admire the temerity of The Lost World to not only feature its concept art as set dressing, like with the RVs, but to pass off a VFX miniature as in-universe concept art.
Could you do a video about the Jurassic Park planned to be built in somewhere in Europe? First time I’ve ever heard of this was someone proposing it as an possible DLC for Jurassic World Evolution.
Sure! I'll probably bring that up in the future! :D
Klayton Fioriti Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God! ITS HIM!!!!!!!!!!!
Vincent Nguyen I heard the same thing in the same video! It was from Gamer Empire.
Oh yeah the novel mentioned Hammond had plans for Jurassic Park Europe in the Azores (island chain off the coast of Africa in the Atlantic ocean) and Jurassic Park Asia or Japan somewhere in the south Pacific. The latter was important because Jurassic Parks key investors were Japanese and InGen wanted to tap into the Japanese tourism industry (also at the time Crichton wrote the novel there was economic tension between Japan and America but he acknowledged Japan was prospering with large corporations that extended into America like Sony or auto companies. The Japanese investors of InGen reflect that idea).
Personally while I love the Jurassic World movies I think wed have gotten a better ending in Fallen Kingdom if we had Jurassic World: Europe and Jurassic World: Asia exist and then those parks saw their dinosaurs escape. It would have felt even more like the worlds old human kingdom fell and became Jurassic World.
Jurassic Lion It's also in the movie canon. Not made, but planned. During the dinner scene in JP one of the projections in the background says "Jurassic Park Europe".
Imagine if the dinosaurs went to JP San diego after dominion and we would get a look of the old abandoned site
0:57 I assume you mean the real daughter, since that's going to confuse people as to the timeline when it happened. My assumption is that during this time Lockwood's actual daughter died and the subject of human cloning was brought up which cause Hammond to split with Lockwood. The actual cloning came later after the events of the first Nublar incident and maybe even TLW. I know is a whole different subject but this one of those events that is confusing people and bringing up a whole bag of debates, bigger than Claire's shoes.
Correct yes
What I like most about The Lost World is that the tyrannosaurus get the most screentime out of any of the franchise. Especially in JP3 and Jurassic World.
I don't know if this is canonically true, but in LEGO game, Peter Ludlow mentioned some of his attractions for the park:
1. Pachycephalosaurus Petting Zoo: Basically a petting zoo filled with these creatures. They compared them to goats, even though they are totally different thing.
2. Brachiosaurus Slide: They wanted to have Brachiosaurus themed slide, except they LITERALLY used Brachiosaurus as slides thanks to their long necks.
3. Triceratops Ring Toss: A ring toss game with added difficulty, as they have to toss the ring into a Triceratops horn which would constantly move.
4. Ghost Train: A haunted house attraction filled with LIVE Velociraptors. They said that they would muzzle them or trim their toenails
The problem with the attraction is, they treated the dinosaurs as an amusement park property rather than actual animals. And this can be dangerous to both humans and dinosaurs. Possible problems are:
1. Pachycephalosaurus can accidentally headbutt somebody or the other Pachys. They can be territorial, which increases the chance of damage to the guests
2. Brachiosaurus's neck is very weak. And not to mention Peter Ludlow mentioned that they would lose 1 guest every 1 thousand, which is somehow safe for them.
3. Triceratops would have such a small space, considering how big this guy can be. Not to mention, this would be a scam to the guest as it's nearly impossible to throw a ring at this guy's horns,
4. This ride would be fun for everyone except Velociraptor. They have to muzzle them, which would be very uncomfortable to them, especially since they are wild raptors. They also considered to trim their toenails, but this would be painful to them as their claw was made out of bone instead of keratin.
Kind of wish we saw what Jurassic Park: Europe looked like.
I was SO DISSAPOINTED that the San Diego Site wasn't in Dominion... they REALLY dropped the ball there.
I think that all this is very interesting.
If there is enough information you should do “what dinosaur was in John Hammonds mosquitoe staff” .Just a suggestion
This would be cool to see as a playable park in Jurassic World Evolution 2
Wish granted.
Its happening 😆
If this happend it would be cool like Dinos escape from San Diego including rexy like fallen kingdom. Great vid BTW bro
Jurassic Park: San Diego started construction in 1983 but then cancelled in 1985, to continue construction in 1996.
The lowered exhibits look pretty safe, cause you’d always be looking down on them and there would be little fear of fence breaks because of the pits they are in
That's amazing!
Now it makes me wonder what happened to the Pterodactyls from JP3 after they escaped
Now we can experience JP San Diego in Jurassic World Evolution 2, all thanks for Frontier 😁 It's a great game, I recommend it!
I think a San Diego Expansion would be awesome for Jurassic World Evolution possibly for the third Jurassic World movie!
Awesome
I just finished watching TLW for the first time in many years. Like or hate that movie, one can't deny that there is some good acting in that film. Roland and Peter are so well acted and believe it or not, I actually like Peter's character.
Good job keep it up
I still love to re visit this video for inspiration on JWE and JWE 2, also JURASSIC PARK EUROPE!
As a San Diego resident I'm really curious where Jurassic Park San Diego would've gone, or if the writers even thought about it in that much detail. From the movie/concept art it almost looks like it's on the site of the former Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley, but that wouldn't make sense given the movie itself acknowledged the San Diego Chargers who still actively played there. Downtown isn't flat like what we saw in the movie, nor is there anywhere near downtown with that much open space. They mention it being near a waterfront facility, but most coastal spots don't have large open spaces nearby either. Half the city is and was occupied by military bases like the Top Gun school, which would presumably be a no-go, and most of the rest of the city was already built up by the 90's. That pretty much leaves north county and Santee, but both of those are pretty far away from the core of the city or the water.
I was always under the impression that Jurassic Park: San Diego was designed to be some throw away thing. Like a design template or a prototype. The facility itself was too small in scope to handle one animal, much less a dozen or so. So I couldn’t picture Ingen placing a bunch of animals inside a building that wasn’t that much bigger than a football stadium or a large concert hall. It just didn’t seem plausible enough. The second issue I have with it is comfort. Jurassic Park: San Diego is more akin to a dinosaur kennel and far more alien to the island sanctuary that these animals are used to. When you put a bunch of very large, migratory animals in tiny little enclosures like this one, the first instinct they’re going to have is the desire to break out. These animals have a territorial range of thousands of miles, not a 60 x 80 foot pen, so yeah more space is obviously needed.
do a video about the history of troodon in jurrasic park. i remember it form jurrasic park the game and i am interesed why its in their!
I always thought the idea didn't make sense as San Diego is a heavily populated city and having so many huge dinosaurs with little room would be a recipe for disaster.
Interesting how the audience section of the amphitheater seems to consist almost entirely of VIP booths.
Unlike the island, the zoo was apparently designed to cater only to the super rich.
I think Universal needs to make games that are just tours of Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park: San Diego, and Jurassic World. Maybe even Site B
Good vid
Quite interesting..
Thinking about it they could have still used it as a big promotional showing for the Island. Like a preview for people. "Think this is cool, go check out the island!" I could see them doing a rotating thing where they ship some dinosaurs over for a month to show off to the public who can't afford t go to the island.
I'd love to see Rexy or Blue wandering through the decommissioned JP San Diego in the next Jurassic World.
Interesting as always! 👍🏻 And in a way, we've *kind of* come full circle with "Fallen Kingdom's" second half taking place in California: the same state where, 20 years ago, the Bull T-Rex rampaged.
Said less than a month like there was about to be Triceratops run through your house😂
Never knew this was John Hammond's idea. Always thought the San Diego park was his nephews idea.
Hey Klayton, I have an idea you might be interested in. Follow along.
Jurassic World was the realization of John Hammond's dreams of a dinosaur theme park where people could experience these legendary creatures up close like never before. Unfortunately this dream came crashing to reality when the Indominus Rex escaped it's paddock, causing mayhem and forcing Jurassic World to close it's doors. What happened afterwards is history, but my question is....
What if Jurassic World never closed?
What if the 2015 incident never occurred, either by way of the park never going through with the Indominus project, or they do and the hybrid either dies young or is held long enough for it's paddock to be finished and for the monster to be kept under control? How would a still open JW respond when Mount Sibo's eruption? Would there still be internal corruption that would have interfered?
I'd like to get your take on this.
Thank you, and have a good evening.
To be fair it makes sense in many ways. To have multiple Jurassic Park's set up in different places of the world like Hammond brought up in the book.
Love the vids keep it up!!
San Diego Zoo SeaWorld San Diego Chargers
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Cool video
I have a feeling they’ll dig this idea up for a later installment and we’ll eventually get to see it in some functioning form.
Damn. The one time I take 5 hour nap