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As a retired Navy corpsman, I'd agree with Mr. Marvin. Hollywood is first concerned with money-making, never expect accuracy, just go for vacant entertainment.
Love Lee Marvin and his movies but I can understand feelings about the Dirty Dozen. PTSD was not recognised at the time and many thousands of service men suffered from it. As for the film itself it was poetic licence, even I know the cast were over 30 plus though some had military experience, front line service men were aged between 18 to 30. I still love watching this film and respect for their portrayals, I even read the book by Cornelius Ryan most of which never made it to the screen.
Basically, you’re never gonna have basic training with your final deployment team dirty dozen is a lot like basic training but the team realistically should’ve been split up and only one member should’ve gone on the actual mission
SPOILER******** Well it would have taken more than one member of the team to have wiped out that massive number of the German High Command in that one chateau with grenades and gasoline at the movie conclusion. It’s not like The Dirty Dozen is all that realistic but it’s still a memorable film IMHO.
Only one member would be on that team because the other 11 were too dirty that’s why it’s called the few in the proud because only one can cut the mustard, This is not how units are created. They are trained and then Decimated then deployed. You could see 11 soldiers could pass training, but one person is not gonna make it, my training was 55 guys and 52 graduated, we wanted those 3 guys to fail that’s real life
even as a 7 year old seeing the film when it first came out back in '67, I thought of the film as nothing more than exciting entertainment (still do). It seemed too silly to be real to me. I got a completely different reaction when I saw The Green Berets the following year. Though it was also an over-the-top war actioner, I felt the often extreme violence was too jarring to be entertaining. I had more respect for A Bridge Too Far and especially The Big Red One, which I consider to be the best movie about actual war ever made.
I think people want to see a sensationalized the war, or movies with Rambo and Schwarzenegger? The movie called Blackhawk down was very true to the facts. They won several Awards for how real it was . I was a Ranger in the 90s. I was in that Attack, which turned into a lot more then we expected . The men we lost were he real names at the End. I’ve been military for 30 years. I went through an ROTC and came in as a Second, Lieutenant. That was some scary times. But we we’re brothers. We had each others back. I’m in the Guard now. I keep myself n the game .
a lot of the follywood WW-2' Veterans all had the same issues richard burton was accused of the same behavior during the filming of where eagles dare . and marine scout / snipers don't go through para military training i don't think the video host knows the meaning of the term
The mission would have been unrealistic even with a dozen crack army Rangers or Navy Seals. To accomplish that with a bunch of criminals is silly. One of the dozen,(Maggott) the Telly Savalas character was useless to the cause.
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Not really a war movie fan...but I appreciate the video and learning more about Lee Marvin and his personal life and career.
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As a retired Navy corpsman, I'd agree with Mr. Marvin. Hollywood is first concerned with money-making, never expect accuracy, just go for vacant entertainment.
I agree, but I enjoy entertaining movies as well. If you should know how an actual battle goes in detail, it would get an adults only or X rating.
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Lee was certainly a very versatile actor from tough guy roles to comical roles such as Donavins Reefe with John Wayne or Cat Balou to name a few
I enjoyed Dirty Dozen. Its not suprising that some actor hate their most famous movies.
Love Lee Marvin and his movies but I can understand feelings about the Dirty Dozen. PTSD was not recognised at the time and many thousands of service men suffered from it. As for the film itself it was poetic licence, even I know the cast were over 30 plus though some had military experience, front line service men were aged between 18 to 30. I still love watching this film and respect for their portrayals, I even read the book by Cornelius Ryan most of which never made it to the screen.
Basically, you’re never gonna have basic training with your final deployment team dirty dozen is a lot like basic training but the team realistically should’ve been split up and only one member should’ve gone on the actual mission
SPOILER********
Well it would have taken more than one member of the team to have wiped out that massive number of the German High Command in that one chateau with grenades and gasoline at the movie conclusion. It’s not like The Dirty Dozen is all that realistic but it’s still a memorable film IMHO.
Only one member would be on that team because the other 11 were too dirty that’s why it’s called the few in the proud because only one can cut the mustard, This is not how units are created. They are trained and then Decimated then deployed. You could see 11 soldiers could pass training, but one person is not gonna make it, my training was 55 guys and 52 graduated, we wanted those 3 guys to fail that’s real life
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Witnessing war first hand was scary and frightening and no joke and does cause one to drink
you can cook up any excuse you want, Marvin was a drunk because he liked to drink.
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even as a 7 year old seeing the film when it first came out back in '67, I thought of the film as nothing more than exciting entertainment (still do). It seemed too silly to be real to me. I got a completely different reaction when I saw The Green Berets the following year. Though it was also an over-the-top war actioner, I felt the often extreme violence was too jarring to be entertaining. I had more respect for A Bridge Too Far and especially The Big Red One, which I consider to be the best movie about actual war ever made.
I think people want to see a sensationalized the war, or movies with Rambo and Schwarzenegger? The movie called Blackhawk down was very true to the facts. They won several Awards for how real it was . I was a Ranger in the 90s. I was in that Attack, which turned into a lot more then we expected . The men we lost were he real names at the End. I’ve been military for 30 years. I went through an ROTC and came in as a Second, Lieutenant. That was some scary times. But we we’re brothers. We had each others back. I’m in the Guard now. I keep myself n the game .
a lot of the follywood WW-2' Veterans all had the same issues richard burton was accused of the same behavior during the filming of where eagles dare .
and marine scout / snipers don't go through para military training i don't think the video host knows the meaning of the term
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The mission would have been unrealistic even with a dozen crack army Rangers or Navy Seals. To accomplish that with a bunch of criminals is silly. One of the dozen,(Maggott) the Telly Savalas character was useless to the cause.
I like him. 😂