Clint Walker came to my restaurant one time. We got a phone call from his assistant saying "we have a major celebrity with our party and we do not want anyone to know that he's coming because sometimes fans will form huge crowds to see him. We will be visiting your restaurant today if you can accommodate a group of 20 in a private room." I explained that we could put them in a somewhat secluded area of the restaurant, but that it would not be private. They agreed to those terms but they wouldn't tell us who the celebrity was. So everyone in the restaurant was super excited expecting Denzel Washington or Tom Hanks, but instead an 80 something year old Clint Walker came in. He was very old, but he was still a very large man. The young lady that served them asked who he was and his assistant explained to her that his name was Clint Walker and that he had been a big movie star, then she listed off some of the more major movies he had been in. Of course none of the young millennials had ever heard of any of the movies or TV shows he had been in, but The Dirty Dozen has been one of my favorite movies since I was a child. Everyone was so disappointed that it wasn't a movie star they knew of, but I was very happy and proud to have served Mr Walker that day. RIP Cheyenne Bodie
Suicide Squad was a bunch of criminals who were captured strictly for the squad. The Dirty Dozen ( & sequels) was a bunch of soldiers who had all committed some serious crimes, were already sentenced and either imprisoned or awaiting sentences, and they were then 'convinced' to volunteer for the mission.
The Big Red One, The Dirty Dozen, The Longest Day, The Bridge on the River Kwai, The Guns of Navarone, Gallipoli, Midway, Sands of Iwo Jima, etc. . . . All hold a special place in my heart. My dad was always watching those, and old westerns, and thus, so was I.
This movie is one of my most favorite ones. My Dad took me & the family to the drive-in to see this & "Planet of the Apes". Back then you usually saw two to three movies at the drive-in. I own this as well on DVD. LOVE the "Big Red One" too. Anything with Lee Marvin in it is worth owning or going to see! Thanks again Jeff... Until next time!
That's exactly the way I feel anything with Lee Marvin in it especially before the 1970s including his TV roles and his two TV shows M Squad and Lawbreakers
Never get tired of this movie 🍿. The first third of the movie is my favorite as you begin to see the bonds of friendship developing between the characters.
There were lots of crap films and perhaps even more recycling back then than there is now. E.g. "Cat-women of the moon" from 1953 had two-three almost identical films made in the following 10 years.
Most movies think they have to throw in CGI special effects to make a good movie even comedy like were all children it turns me off what ever happened to good scripts Dialogue interesting plots character development that would hold the public's attention instead of the crap action every second and phoney TV situational comedy Dialogue where every second there's a smart ass comment that's just not real life conversation
Here are some other things about the movie: The scene where Donald Sutherland inspects the troops was filmed at Colindale, North London, on the site of the Royal Air Force Museum. The building in the background still stands and houses part of the collection. I used to live near it. Donald Sutherland and Al Mancini were cast in the film because it was shot in the UK and they hired American and Canadian actors who were living and working in Britain at the time. Sutherland was a supporting actor in many British TV shows in the mid-sixties and Kieffer was born in London shortly after The Dirty Dozen finished filming. And my mum was an extra in this movie. She was in the party scenes at the Chateau. Short blonde lady in a dark dress.
Donald Sutherland is absolute GOLD as Pinkley. Im glad they decided to us him for the inspection scene, he had made ROLLING 🤣 The Dirty Dozen is my dad's favorite film, and my favorite film is Kelly's Heroes- another great Donald Sutherland performance! THE MAN IS A LEGEND.
This film was just a great classic......funny, great script, acting...timing...direction...music...everything...very rare...all the planets lined up :)
But Marvin sucked in his role as a Marine in the movie 'Hell in the Pacific', with Toshiro Mifune. I expected more from him playing something he had actually been, a Marine in WW2.
Many of the tough-guy actors of that generation were the real deal. Lee Marvin was a Marine infantryman who saw combat in the Pacific, wounded during the invasion of Saipan. His costar Charles Bronson was a teenaged tail-gunner in the USAAF in a B-29 Super Fortress heavy bomber over Japan. He, too, was entitled to wear the Purple Heart for wounds sustained in action. Another costar, Ernest Borgnine, served a decade in the U.S. Navy before being mustered out in 1945 as a gunner's mate 1st class. He was entitled to wear the WWII Victory Medal in his fruit salad, amongst other awards. Fellow cast member Clint Walker joined the Merchant Marine sea service during the latter years of WWII. Telly Savalis served from 1943-1946 in the U.S. Army, winning a Purple Heart. George Kennedy also served in the U.S. Army. Robert Ryan served in the Marine Corps during the Second World War, but did not see service outside of the U.S. Point being, many of these men knew about life in uniform and life during hard times, not only because of the war but because of the Great Depression. They were "real" tough guys.... and it showed in their performances.
@@jeffburnham6611 I believe Lee Marvin felt uncomfortable in the role. Lee had a lot of bad experiences fighting the Japanese and kind of went off the reservation. A lot of his friends were killed in close battle with the Japanese. It effected him so much he REALLY did wear a necklace of ears from Japanese Army dead he fought. I would not screw with Lee Marvin. He was the real deal.
My favorite Lee Marvin movie is Cat Ballou, for which he won a much deserved Academy Award as Kid Shaleen. The horse was great too! However, his points went through the roof in my book when I found out that he really was a US Marine! In fact, he is buried at Arlington cemetery. RIP Lee Marvin!
Not his line, but Cat Ballou has one of the funniest lines. He’s drunk and trying to show he can still shoot. They put a target on the side of a barn and I think he ends up hitting the weathervane on top. One of the guys yells, “He did it! He missed the barn!”
Some great info I didn't know about, great research, you obviously have a great love of movies, just subscribed and looking forward to watching the rest, thanks for posting.
I htink it may have also inspired "The Devil's Eight", a 1969 movie with Christopher George, "A federal agent rounds up eight convicts to help fight a vicious moonshine gang."
I was privileged as a 10 year old Cub Scout to be present at the Aldbury location for the filming of the scene when the armoured column was moving through a Devonshire village. I was sat behind the duckpond adjacent to the church and next to a real stationary Sherman tank. Highlights of the day were when the Sherman was moving out it ran over a stack of camera equipment which had been left under the tracks, presumably as it looked like a safe place to put it! The second highlight was meeting some of the main cast including Lee Marvin, we sat in a jeep with him.
I don't like war or combat movies, but, The dirty dozen was all that! I think the standout performances are Lee Marvin, Jim Brown, and John Cassavetes I gotta be real all the acting was top-notch and outstanding!💯 Great movie facts! BTW, this was one of my father's favorite films!
One possible error: Lopez, Jiminez, was not to blow up the Chateau. He was to climb the rope. When Riker shoots the bottom of the rope with a machine gun, he scurries up. Then Riker tells Franco he was next. Franco says, 'I thought only Jiminez had to climb up to that Chateau'. 'But what if Jiminez gets killed and can't climb up to that Chateau?' When he's reported dead, Riker reminds Franco why all had to do it.
Whenever I watch this, I always tell Franco not to jinx things by saying they survived until after they get out, but he always does; and he gets killed for it every time...
John Casavetes and Lee Marvin are the soup that bring the DD 12 Off... the interplay and reactions as they make a point to get on each other's uncomfortable side are unforgettable... in particular the early scene where Lee Marvin Beats Victor Franco into the ground until he is unconcious. The scene which ends with Lee Marvin's boot in Franco's face... incredibly wild scene.
Bubba Holtzclaw I will never Never forget the fight scene between Lee Marvin and Clint walker!. Much the same as the fight scene a couple decades later in the first fast and the furious between the late Paul Walker and Vin Diesels best friend fight that Dominick Torreto had to break up.
@@michaelweizer7794 OH yes, another fav of mine also, he gets under his skin, because he has to know he will fight when the time calls for it... Great, thanks for bringing that one out too!
I thought you were going to say the fight scene in the movie Emperor of the North between A1 Lee Marvin and Shack Ernst Borgnine on the train that was a brutal fight scene
@@jameshuseby6290 So long as the subject is fight scenes on trains I still think it's pretty hard to top the James Bond classic from Russia with love!.And that was in 1963.
I felt that the dirty dozen was a good movie a very well written script amazing speical effects. Something that can never be recreated by cgi. New movies are easy to make old movies are so clever and good no bright lights just a well written story with good acting and the best casting choice for the roles of the dirty dozen.
I feel the same way they just can't get the gritty part down like in the older movies and they definitely don't have the same type of men to even get near filling the shoes of the men that were actors then
Dirty Dozen also Inspired a British Science Fiction Series Called Blake's Seven. As the creator of the show Terry Nation puts it, "It was a Dirty Dozen Set in Outer Space"
Lee Marvin's wife's Auto bio book mentioned in 1965 the Robert Aldrich, Robert Taylor, Earnest Borgnine and their wife's had dinner in Las Vegas discussing The Dirty Dozen movie. Two men came up to their table and wanted Lee Marvin’s Autograph. Lee said OK and signed their autograph, the two men said they were huge fans of his movies and mentioned The Wild One with Lee and Marlon Brando. Lee Marvin said thank you and then continued eating. The two men walked away. Ernest Bognine said to Lee Marvin do you know who those two men were. Lee said no just two kids. His wife said they were Paul McCartney and John Lennon a new sensation called the Beatles. Lee said yeah so what and continued eating. Earnest Borgnine shook his head and laughed. Side note in the movie The Wild One Lee Marvin's Motorcycle Gang was called the "Beetles"....
A friend of mine was in this film Tom Busby, he's shot in the head near the end of the film. He said he made more money playing poker than his wages for making the film. He was a real nice guy too.
I read a few years ago in this site from the combat TV show the actor that portrayed Little John in the TV show Combat saying how the whole cast and crew had such a great time on the set of Combat especially when Lee Marvin guest starred on the show and how they were so impressed by him
The TV show Combat came on the air in 1963 though 1967 Lee Marvin guest stars in Combat if I remember right in 1963 or at the latest 1964 The Dirty Dozen came out in 1967
@Mark Richards Hell In The Pacific was the next year. Dir John Boorman met Marvin on the set of The Dirty Dozen and persuaded him to play the lead in Point Blank. Then he did Boorman's next film, which was HITP.
@Mark Richards No problem. Marvin made Boorman. He was a British TV director who'd mainly done documentaries and one film, a Hard Day's Night rip off featuring the band The Dave Clark Five. But Boorman approached Marvin as he luckily was in England to film DD.
Acting in The Dirty Dozen was a canny move on Lee Marvin's part. He wasn't enthusiastic but knew it'd be "a dummy moneymaker" and give him leverage for 'Point Blank' which he REALLY wanted to make (also for MGM.) And it worked--'The Dirty Dozen' made a fortune and for 'Point Blank' Marvin got cast approval, script approval, and final cut..all of which he deferred to director John Boorman. 'Point Blank' is one of the finest films Marvin ever did.
The 1st Special Service Force, a joint Canadian-American unit of elite alpine/mountain troops and commandos, were most-assuredly not recruited from inside the military prison system. The selection process itself was open only to outstanding soldiers with excellent service records, and the force cadre took the cream of the crop for inclusion in the unit. The 1st SSF ranks amongst the finest special-operations units of the entire war.
... at the Cornell Theatre, Burbank, on a double bill one Saturday afternoon with 'Grand Prix.' Like six hours of movie because my Mom had a boatload of errands to accomplish and probably didn't want to wrangle my presence all afternoon. I was a happy camper.
@@jameshuseby6290 I didn't know he had been "on the Street" (what Marines call "being on the Trail" in Army terms: being a Drill). My father was a friend of Ryan's from the USMM. He said Ryan was a good guy and very quiet.
The primary technical advisor for the movie The Dirty Dozen, was named Duff Matson, if memory serves me correctly. If I remember correctly he was either a member of one of these groups in World War II always very closely associated with one of the groups. I do understand there may have been more than one. The story is roughly based on actual events of soldiers that they would release from prison because of their unique talents.
Here's a suggestion for a movie "The Nanny" starring Betty Davis. British film from the sixties. It terrified me as a child. I have copy and it still creeps me out.
A classic guy movie which guys can watch again and again just like there are chick flicks which women can watch again again. I can watch the dirty dozen again again.
My favorite stay in home during a storm/iced road day movie marathon is The Dirty Dozen, Patton, The Longest Day, and Kelly’s Heroes. That or just a Band of Brothers day.
There is a war film that was like a pre- dirty dozen in 1964 called the secret invasion. This very good war film also has a all star cast such as Mickey Rooney, Henry silvia, ed barnes, William Campbell and Stewart Granger among others, this film is well worth watching.
If you want me to blow your mind with another fact that was left out!! The movie Small Soldiers, all the Commando Elite Characters are played by the actors in the Dirty Dozen. Lee Marvin was cast for the roll of Major Chip Hazard but died before the movie was finished, so they recast Tommy Lee Jones for the roll
OMFG I HAD NO IDEA!!! I loved Small Soldiers before I even knew of The Dirty Dozen! I just looked it up and George Kennedy, Clint Walker, Ernest Borgnine and Jim Brown were voices of the Elite!!! Thats SO AWESOME!!!
There was "The Secret Invasion" which dealt with five criminals and a widow who try to save an Italian general which came out three years before "The Dirty Dozen".
The members of the Merchant Marine were not entitled to combat pay, combat decorations or awards, and other honors and recognition due members of the line navy who served in combat or in war zones. Yet, they were arguably the bravest of all since they sailed into harm's way aboard vessels largely unarmed and extremely vulnerable to attack by German aircraft and submarines. The regs were finally changed, and the Merchant Mariners got their just due recognition. They were brave men. Going into the water in the far north Atlantic was almost a death sentence, a man in the water would last only a few minutes before freezing to death.
That's was the most important thing in his life was his experiences in the USMC after he made it in Hollywood he couldn't get out of there quick enough he felt it was a phony place to live in
I enjoyed hearing the rarely mentioned information about the Dirty Dozen movie and actors. I did not know any of it. I love many of the movies made prior to the 1990s particularly 1932-1969. Would you feature unknown facts about Island In The Sun, The Heiress, and (1969's Slaves)? A Million Movies and Jerry Skinner's Star Biographies are a part of movie history in my opinion. During COVID-19 we cannot attend the Cinemas and A Million Movies was entertaining. I gave you a thumbs-up, a saved, and I subscribed. Thanks.
Lee Marvin actually took part in 21 landings on Pacific shores. He was shot up at Saipan, where most of his company was killed, and he got a Purple Heart. The memories haunted him for the rest of his life. He hated this movie because, he said, it's nothing like war at all.
Marvin was right; it WASN'T a "war" movie It was a "caper" flick! In essence, it was like "Ocean's Eleven"; a group of men planning, and conducting, an operation against a target, whether casinos or a German occupied chateau, with the intent of either robbery or assassination! One other thing, Mr Marvin; if the movie wasn't made to MAKE MONEY, then what the HELL was it made FOR! I don't remember Hollywood being so altruistic that they would throw away a few million dollars without the expectation of getting at least SOME of it BACK!
the film was made at little chalfont buckinghamshire and i visited the set and met clint walker, and charles bronson in the little thatched cottage. nice day out
13. In the movie "Small Soldiers", the soldiers serving under the commanding officer toy soldier (voiced by Tommy Lee Jones) were ALL VOICED by "members" of "The Dirty Dozen". Ernest Borgnine voiced Kip Killigan (Kill Again) Jim Brown voiced Butch Meathook George Kennedy voiced Brick Bazooka Clint Walker voiced Nick Nitro ruclips.net/video/Ls5834hbssM/видео.html even Dick Miller had an uncredited bit as an MP at the hanging.
#1) The unit was always called "The Filthy 13" even when the mission had up to 18 men.They were led by Private First Class (E-2 then) Jake "McNasty" McNiece and were hid in the 506th Parachute Regiment. They made 4 jumps into hostile territory. Two of the men, in the wartime film, putting camoflage paint on each other's faces are Pvt.Clarence Ware and Pvt. Charles Plaudo. A still shot of them is between pages 208 & 209 of George Koskimaki's "D-Day With The Screaming Eagles". PFC. McNiece survived the war. Stephen C. DeVito wrote "Fighting With The Filthy Thirteen: The World War II Story of Jack Womer, Ranger and Paratrooper". The 13 took part in Operation Market and was in The Bulge.
The _Filthy Thirteen_ were a Pathfinder platoon. They were supposed to go behind enemy lines and designate landing zones for the rest of the division. They were the inspiration for the "Filthy Few" in the Hell's Angels. The Filthy Few would ride ahead and clear the campsite the rest of the group would use when they arrived. They were not allowed to bathe or wash their gang cuts (a denim vest with the gang's colors on the back).
A gun club in Pennsylvania, just outside of Philly has a 200 yard range named after Jack Agnew, one of the 13, or 18...numbers are unsure it seems. I was a member there and maintained the range along with others. We took pride in caring for his work and legacy. He built the original.
Our Neighbour was Lee Marvins double.. I am going to inter him soon... I LOVE OUR NEIGHBOURS. STAY STRONG ❤️❤️❤️ I want to tell people about you P.. Xx
You didn't mention that The Dirty Dozen was made entirely here in England. With a virtually all British crew and a few British actors like John Hollis who later appeared in The Empire Strikes Back, Flash Gordon and For Your Eyes Only
WOW Jeff you really do your homework. I'm really impressed. You have a new subscriber. I love this channel. Because this was done three years ago I really hope this comment reaches you. I guess I'll never know... :( BTW I watched your vlog on It's A Wonderful Life and found it to be very informative plus it's my all time favorite Christmas movie. Thank you
My contributions: When the movie came out there were large posters on subway platforms in NYC with a glaring error. In the movie the mission was codenamed "Operation Amnesty" but the posters said it was "Operation Overleaf". This is from the line in the movie where Marvin is being briefed and told the full plan is described on the next page, "overleaf" There was also a T.V. ripoff called Garrison's Gorillas (1967-1968) based on the same idea.
You know, lots of videos promise new information on movies or television shows or whatever, but this video actually had some stuff I didn't know. Enjoyable. Suggestion: Pull your camera back and bit and give the viewer a little more of you. The screen is a little too much face for a 12-min. video. Other than that, well done.
A fun movie but having studied the "European Theater" with modest diligence at the hand of some experienced and learned Academic it a somewhat preposterous idea. That being said it is a terrific story. I would tend to stand in Mr. Marvin's corner and rate 'The Big Red 1' as a finer effort but consider all of the components... primarily Fuller. It is a considered, beautiful piece of cinema dismissed by snobs because of subject and cast. Certainly worthy, in some form, of one of your essays.
"The Dirty Dozen" is not the first movie of its type. Stewart Granger, Mickey Rooney, Henry Silva and William Campbell made the prototype "criminals into heroes" movie in 1964. It is titled "The Secret Invasion." Might be worth a look.
Yes, I remember that movie, and you're right. The reason why many moviegoers don't remember it is probably for two reasons: 1) It was a combined US-British movie effort; and 2) the team leader was a British Army officer leading the charged. The sad part is that Stewart Granger, a fine actor in costume drama, didn't exactly conveyed that toughness Lee Marvin managed to pulled off in "The Dirty Dozen". That just my opinion.
There was also an American military prison in Frankfurt, Germany that I toured enroute to my duty station at Field Station Augsburg (in the early 70's).
I thought that Victor Franco (John Cassavetes) was the one who was going to go crazy, at the Chateau scene at the end. Not Archer Maggot (Telly Savalas).
Fifty+ years later, and it's still the gold standard for the men-on-a-death-misson movie. And I don't care if Tarantino fans will get mad (they will), but Inglorious Basterds is no match for the classic. I know it was only used as an inspiration, and I know it wasn't an action movie, but was I disappointed in how little stuff the so-called Basterds got to do. Their leading man kills only one unarmed guy in the whole movie while half of their teammates disappear from the script after they just appeared in the movie. The Dirty Dozen gives its character the due they deserve. Every character is integral to the movie's climax. And Major John Reisman goes full-on Wolfenstein mode on Nazis and doesn't just sit on his ass while his men die. This is a classic.
the copy of Dirty Dozen 2 that i have, also has the special edition of the Dirty Dozen with cast interviews (those still alive) from the early 2000s. Trini Lopez said him quiting the movie was one of the worst mistakes he ever made. he said his agent thought he should get alot more money than what he was getting, and basically gave the movie company one option or Trini was gone. Trini said he was fine with the money and he knew at the time of the interview that if he had stayed he would of been more popular that what he already was.
You should be able to dig deeper into this, it was commented upon in the late 60s that disorderly soldiers sometimes were sent on missions or special tasks just to pay back but also because some officers realized that on some missions they just couldn't send ordinary soldiers, with that it was implied that in some circumstances soldiers who couldn't conform to normal regulations actually were perfectly suited for special service, but as I said it was common knowledge in historical research in the 1960s but I haven't heard anything about it or further details since then.
One other piece of trivia: Robert Ryan was the first choice to play the obsessed Commodore Decker in the Star Trek TOS classic episode "The Doomsday Machine". However, due to his commitment to the Dirty Dozen, he was unable to shoot the episode and William Windom was cast.
The Blue Max starring George Peppard and Ursala Andress was the movie that forced the movie industry to start using the rating system. While there was absolutely no nudity in this movie, Ursala was so sexy and sultry the industry was forced to start ratings. By the way, I don't say much here, I really enjoy your channel, you present really well. It is a movie about a world war one fighter pilot, with a very different plot of any fighter jock movie I have ever seen.
There is a Dirty Dozen film trailer that shows Lee Marvin on a rare filming day off spectating a British motocross. Marvin, who caught the motorcycle bug during the filming of the Wild One, in his younger years became an avid motorcycle racer.
Clint Walker came to my restaurant one time. We got a phone call from his assistant saying "we have a major celebrity with our party and we do not want anyone to know that he's coming because sometimes fans will form huge crowds to see him. We will be visiting your restaurant today if you can accommodate a group of 20 in a private room." I explained that we could put them in a somewhat secluded area of the restaurant, but that it would not be private. They agreed to those terms but they wouldn't tell us who the celebrity was. So everyone in the restaurant was super excited expecting Denzel Washington or Tom Hanks, but instead an 80 something year old Clint Walker came in. He was very old, but he was still a very large man. The young lady that served them asked who he was and his assistant explained to her that his name was Clint Walker and that he had been a big movie star, then she listed off some of the more major movies he had been in. Of course none of the young millennials had ever heard of any of the movies or TV shows he had been in, but The Dirty Dozen has been one of my favorite movies since I was a child. Everyone was so disappointed that it wasn't a movie star they knew of, but I was very happy and proud to have served Mr Walker that day. RIP Cheyenne Bodie
If he was still alive and much younger he would have made a great Jack Reacher.
He was awesome, he knew his responsibilities to the generation he grew up with..
What's the difference between the dirty dozen and suicide squad? The dirty dozen was a good movie.
Suicide Squad was a bunch of criminals who were captured strictly for the squad.
The Dirty Dozen ( & sequels) was a bunch of soldiers who had all committed some serious crimes, were already sentenced and either imprisoned or awaiting sentences, and they were then 'convinced' to volunteer for the mission.
Oh come on now. My 13 year old thought suicide squad was great, just like kids did with the dirty dozen so many years ago.
Oh now. ‘Suicide Squad’ wasn’t so bad. Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn is some really nice eye candy. 😍😜😂🤪🤣
@@GryphonArmorer But then, Margot Robbie is some really nice eye candy in anything.
So true.
The Dirty Dozen. One of those movies you turn on “for a few minutes” and next thing you know its late at night and you’re still glued...
The Big Red One, The Dirty Dozen, The Longest Day, The Bridge on the River Kwai, The Guns of Navarone, Gallipoli, Midway, Sands of Iwo Jima, etc. . . . All hold a special place in my heart. My dad was always watching those, and old westerns, and thus, so was I.
This movie is one of my most favorite ones. My Dad took me & the family to the drive-in to see this & "Planet of the Apes". Back then you usually saw two to three movies at the drive-in. I own this as well on DVD. LOVE the "Big Red One" too. Anything with Lee Marvin in it is worth owning or going to see! Thanks again Jeff... Until next time!
That's exactly the way I feel anything with Lee Marvin in it especially before the 1970s including his TV roles and his two TV shows M Squad and Lawbreakers
Never get tired of this movie 🍿. The first third of the movie is my favorite as you begin to see the bonds of friendship developing between the characters.
Back when films were good and not the same old recycled crap because hollywood doesn't have an original idea anymore.
I remember the good old days when films did not include super hero's, just real human beings.
There were lots of crap films and perhaps even more recycling back then than there is now. E.g. "Cat-women of the moon" from 1953 had two-three almost identical films made in the following 10 years.
Most movies think they have to throw in CGI special effects to make a good movie even comedy like were all children it turns me off what ever happened to good scripts Dialogue interesting plots character development that would hold the public's attention instead of the crap action every second and phoney TV situational comedy Dialogue where every second there's a smart ass comment that's just not real life conversation
Films used to be made by people with vision and passion - now they're scripted by committee and submitted to financial suits for their approval.
@robert beatty Normally you put actors *infront* of a green screen, not behind it.
Here are some other things about the movie:
The scene where Donald Sutherland inspects the troops was filmed at Colindale, North London, on the site of the Royal Air Force Museum. The building in the background still stands and houses part of the collection. I used to live near it.
Donald Sutherland and Al Mancini were cast in the film because it was shot in the UK and they hired American and Canadian actors who were living and working in Britain at the time. Sutherland was a supporting actor in many British TV shows in the mid-sixties and Kieffer was born in London shortly after The Dirty Dozen finished filming.
And my mum was an extra in this movie. She was in the party scenes at the Chateau. Short blonde lady in a dark dress.
Watched some night time scenes at the old MGM studios in Borehamwood, so boring!
That's pretty cool to have your mom in any movie but to have her in one of the biggest and most popular movies of all time is quite something!
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Whoa whoa! Put the brakes on the "...any movie...", pal. LOL! There are some movies I'm sure you'd never want your mom in.
@@commentcopbadge6665 -fellow, keep your horses in the stable, the phrase IN ALL MOVIES just was a figure of speech
Great tidbits of behind the scenes, thanks!
Donald Sutherland is absolute GOLD as Pinkley. Im glad they decided to us him for the inspection scene, he had made ROLLING 🤣 The Dirty Dozen is my dad's favorite film, and my favorite film is Kelly's Heroes- another great Donald Sutherland performance! THE MAN IS A LEGEND.
R.I.P. Donald Sutherland
Great movie, great actors, good script and Lee Marvin WAS a true badass.
This film was just a great classic......funny, great script, acting...timing...direction...music...everything...very rare...all the planets lined up :)
And great actors don't forget them without them very specific actors it just wouldn't have been as great a movie as it was
Lee Marvin was a real life bad ass.
But Marvin sucked in his role as a Marine in the movie 'Hell in the Pacific', with Toshiro Mifune. I expected more from him playing something he had actually been, a Marine in WW2.
He was buried in Arlington national cemtery with full military honours--
He played a shot down pilot not a marine.
Many of the tough-guy actors of that generation were the real deal. Lee Marvin was a Marine infantryman who saw combat in the Pacific, wounded during the invasion of Saipan. His costar Charles Bronson was a teenaged tail-gunner in the USAAF in a B-29 Super Fortress heavy bomber over Japan. He, too, was entitled to wear the Purple Heart for wounds sustained in action. Another costar, Ernest Borgnine, served a decade in the U.S. Navy before being mustered out in 1945 as a gunner's mate 1st class. He was entitled to wear the WWII Victory Medal in his fruit salad, amongst other awards. Fellow cast member Clint Walker joined the Merchant Marine sea service during the latter years of WWII. Telly Savalis served from 1943-1946 in the U.S. Army, winning a Purple Heart. George Kennedy also served in the U.S. Army. Robert Ryan served in the Marine Corps during the Second World War, but did not see service outside of the U.S. Point being, many of these men knew about life in uniform and life during hard times, not only because of the war but because of the Great Depression. They were "real" tough guys.... and it showed in their performances.
@@jeffburnham6611 I believe Lee Marvin felt uncomfortable in the role. Lee had a lot of bad experiences fighting the Japanese and kind of went off the reservation. A lot of his friends were killed in close battle with the Japanese. It effected him so much he REALLY did wear a necklace of ears from Japanese Army dead he fought. I would not screw with Lee Marvin. He was the real deal.
This is one of my favorites. Didn't know that about Trini Lopez quitting the movie. Great video!
So that's why his character was killed off early.
All great movies. It brings back great memories watching the classics with my late GREAT DAD. :)
Donald Sutherland was also a tank commander in Kelly's Heroes too...
Odd ball
In Kelly's Heroes, he was a tanker in WWII, but he spoke in 60's hippie!
So, I wasn't wrong!
Arff, Arff, Arff...
And a Hospital Corpsman in The Bedford Incident. One of his first roles.
I love the dirty dozen, and it has always reminded me of The Guns of Navarone.
I saw this with my older brother in '67 when I was 11. Loved it then and have viewed it multiple times.
Amazing Movie.. Amazing Cast.. Beautiful Song The Bramble Bush 🎸 Sung By Unforgettable Brilliant TRINI LOPEZ (Pedro Jimenez)🎸👏👏👏🙏
My favorite Lee Marvin movie is Cat Ballou, for which he won a much deserved Academy Award as Kid Shaleen. The horse was great too! However, his points went through the roof in my book when I found out that he really was a US Marine! In fact, he is buried at Arlington cemetery. RIP Lee Marvin!
Not his line, but Cat Ballou has one of the funniest lines. He’s drunk and trying to show he can still shoot. They put a target on the side of a barn and I think he ends up hitting the weathervane on top. One of the guys yells, “He did it! He missed the barn!”
Steiger should have won that year in my opinion. Still love Marvin though!
The Dirty Dozen is one of two of my FAVORITE MOVIES of all times
what's the other one
Didn't want to have to admit Love Story was your other one eh!
Saw it at summer camp back in 67....just resaw it today on TV and it hasn't aged a bit...great cast, story and one of the best war movies ever made
Some great info I didn't know about, great research, you obviously have a great love of movies, just subscribed and looking forward to watching the rest, thanks for posting.
I htink it may have also inspired "The Devil's Eight", a 1969 movie with Christopher George, "A federal agent rounds up eight convicts to help fight a vicious moonshine gang."
During WWII, Charles Bronson served on a B-29 in the USAAF
ppsh43 balls of steel
Bronson, Steve McQueen were real life bad azzes
Telly Savallas as Maggot was an incredible performance!
I was privileged as a 10 year old Cub Scout to be present at the Aldbury location for the filming of the scene when the armoured column was moving through a Devonshire village. I was sat behind the duckpond adjacent to the church and next to a real stationary Sherman tank. Highlights of the day were when the Sherman was moving out it ran over a stack of camera equipment which had been left under the tracks, presumably as it looked like a safe place to put it! The second highlight was meeting some of the main cast including Lee Marvin, we sat in a jeep with him.
Is that Aldbury in Hertfordshire?
I don't like war or combat movies, but, The dirty dozen was all that! I think the standout performances are Lee Marvin, Jim Brown, and John Cassavetes I gotta be real all the acting was top-notch and outstanding!💯 Great movie facts! BTW, this was one of my father's favorite films!
All were good, but Cassavetes was the highlight for me.
One possible error: Lopez, Jiminez, was not to blow up the Chateau. He was to climb the rope. When Riker shoots the bottom of the rope with a machine gun, he scurries up. Then Riker tells Franco he was next. Franco says, 'I thought only Jiminez had to climb up to that Chateau'. 'But what if Jiminez gets killed and can't climb up to that Chateau?' When he's reported dead, Riker reminds Franco why all had to do it.
It's Reisman, not Riker.
Franco called Jimenez "Mayonnaise" when he said "I thought Mayonnaise was the only one climbing to the top of the chateau".
Sargent Riker told him that with a gay inflection which made it really funny
That's right he did
Loved the comments about The Dirty Dozen.Been going to movies since I was a kid. Lee Marvin was a real badass,loved it!
Whenever I watch this, I always tell Franco not to jinx things by saying they survived until after they get out, but he always does; and he gets killed for it every time...
He just won't listen.
I call that the "Cassavetes Rule"; no early celebration!
you missed 1998`s "SMALL SOLDIERS" the voices of the small soldiers are clint walker, jim brown ,george kennedy & ernest borgnine......
My favourite thing about these videos - the honest title, it really is things I don't need to know! But I still enjoy hearing about them.
John Casavetes and Lee Marvin are the soup that bring the DD 12 Off... the interplay and reactions as they make a point to get on each other's uncomfortable side are unforgettable... in particular the early scene where Lee Marvin Beats Victor Franco into the ground until he is unconcious. The scene which ends with Lee Marvin's boot in Franco's face... incredibly wild scene.
Bubba Holtzclaw I will never Never forget the fight scene between Lee Marvin and Clint walker!. Much the same as the fight scene a couple decades later in the first fast and the furious between the late Paul Walker and Vin Diesels best friend fight that Dominick Torreto had to break up.
@@michaelweizer7794 OH yes, another fav of mine also, he gets under his skin, because he has to know he will fight when the time calls for it... Great, thanks for bringing that one out too!
Exactly
I thought you were going to say the fight scene in the movie Emperor of the North between A1 Lee Marvin and Shack Ernst Borgnine on the train that was a brutal fight scene
@@jameshuseby6290 So long as the subject is fight scenes on trains I still think it's pretty hard to top the James Bond classic from Russia with love!.And that was in 1963.
I felt that the dirty dozen was a good movie a very well written script amazing speical effects. Something that can never be recreated by cgi. New movies are easy to make old movies are so clever and good no bright lights just a well written story with good acting and the best casting choice for the roles of the dirty dozen.
I feel the same way they just can't get the gritty part down like in the older movies and they definitely don't have the same type of men to even get near filling the shoes of the men that were actors then
Dirty Dozen also Inspired a British Science Fiction Series Called Blake's Seven. As the creator of the show Terry Nation puts it, "It was a Dirty Dozen Set in Outer Space"
Lee Marvin's wife's Auto bio book mentioned in 1965 the Robert Aldrich, Robert Taylor, Earnest Borgnine and their wife's had dinner in Las Vegas discussing The Dirty Dozen movie. Two men came up to their table and wanted Lee Marvin’s Autograph. Lee said OK and signed their autograph, the two men said they were huge fans of his movies and mentioned The Wild One with Lee and Marlon Brando. Lee Marvin said thank you and then continued eating. The two men walked away. Ernest Bognine said to Lee Marvin do you know who those two men were. Lee said no just two kids. His wife said they were Paul McCartney and John Lennon a new sensation called the Beatles.
Lee said yeah so what and continued eating. Earnest Borgnine shook his head and laughed. Side note in the movie The Wild One Lee Marvin's Motorcycle Gang was called the "Beetles"....
Really enjoyed your show,thanks!
A friend of mine was in this film Tom Busby, he's shot in the head near the end of the film. He said he made more money playing poker than his wages for making the film. He was a real nice guy too.
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Lee Marvin believed that the film " Hell in the Pacific" best defined the horrors of battle in World War II.
Watch him in Combat the tv series...shoots his rifle as a WW2 vet...other actors like Vic Morrow look like boy scouts in comparison!
I read a few years ago in this site from the combat TV show the actor that portrayed Little John in the TV show Combat saying how the whole cast and crew had such a great time on the set of Combat especially when Lee Marvin guest starred on the show and how they were so impressed by him
The TV show Combat came on the air in 1963 though 1967 Lee Marvin guest stars in Combat if I remember right in 1963 or at the latest 1964 The Dirty Dozen came out in 1967
@Mark Richards Hell In The Pacific was the next year. Dir John Boorman met Marvin on the set of The Dirty Dozen and persuaded him to play the lead in Point Blank. Then he did Boorman's next film, which was HITP.
@Mark Richards No problem. Marvin made Boorman. He was a British TV director who'd mainly done documentaries and one film, a Hard Day's Night rip off featuring the band The Dave Clark Five. But Boorman approached Marvin as he luckily was in England to film DD.
Since you've segued into Lee Marvin, how about doing Donovan's Reef Staring Lee Marvin and John Wayne!
very funny movie
Acting in The Dirty Dozen was a canny move on Lee Marvin's part. He wasn't enthusiastic but knew it'd be "a dummy moneymaker" and give him leverage for 'Point Blank' which he REALLY wanted to make (also for MGM.) And it worked--'The Dirty Dozen' made a fortune and for 'Point Blank' Marvin got cast approval, script approval, and final cut..all of which he deferred to director John Boorman. 'Point Blank' is one of the finest films Marvin ever did.
Right behind Cat Ballou
Maybe The BIg Heat?
point blank is the FINEST film lee marvin ever did.
Little factoid... Richard Jeckel also served in the Merchant Marines.
There's "the Devil's Brigade" which is similar but I believe based on a real regiment.
My friend's dad was in that regiment and yes they were real and climbed that mountain as far as I know.
The 1st Special Service Force was real.
The movie glossed over a lot of their actions.
The 1st Special Service Force, a joint Canadian-American unit of elite alpine/mountain troops and commandos, were most-assuredly not recruited from inside the military prison system. The selection process itself was open only to outstanding soldiers with excellent service records, and the force cadre took the cream of the crop for inclusion in the unit. The 1st SSF ranks amongst the finest special-operations units of the entire war.
The Dirty Dozen was a good movie. I remember going to see it in the theater.
... at the Cornell Theatre, Burbank, on a double bill one Saturday afternoon with 'Grand Prix.' Like six hours of movie because my Mom had a boatload of errands to accomplish and probably didn't want to wrangle my presence all afternoon. I was a happy camper.
My twin brother and I did to when we were 13 years old
Excellent trivia. Thank you.
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.
Robert Ryan was BOTH USMC AND USMM in WWII.
Yes he was a Drill Sergeant stateside at Camp Pendleton in California
@@jameshuseby6290 I didn't know he had been "on the Street" (what Marines call "being on the Trail" in Army terms: being a Drill). My father was a friend of Ryan's from the USMM. He said Ryan was a good guy and very quiet.
The primary technical advisor for the movie The Dirty Dozen, was named Duff Matson, if memory serves me correctly. If I remember correctly he was either a member of one of these groups in World War II always very closely associated with one of the groups. I do understand there may have been more than one. The story is roughly based on actual events of soldiers that they would release from prison because of their unique talents.
Nice. An all-time favorite movie.
What a movie and cast. Lee Marvin top notch actor and war hero.
it is awesome some of the dirty dozen cast did voice overs in the film, "Small Soldiers". totally worth watching :D
Cool. Another great (Movie!)
Here's a suggestion for a movie "The Nanny" starring Betty Davis. British film from the sixties. It terrified me as a child. I have copy and it still creeps me out.
A classic guy movie which guys can watch again and again just like there are chick flicks which women can watch again again. I can watch the dirty dozen again again.
Im a chick, and Ive seen this movie at least a dozen times. Kelly's Heroes is the one I watch again and again and again!
My favorite stay in home during a storm/iced road day movie marathon is The Dirty Dozen, Patton, The Longest Day, and Kelly’s Heroes. That or just a Band of Brothers day.
There is a war film that was like a pre- dirty dozen in 1964 called the secret invasion. This very good war film also has a all star cast such as Mickey Rooney, Henry silvia, ed barnes, William Campbell and Stewart Granger among others, this film is well worth watching.
The secret invasion is from gean and roger corman.
If you want me to blow your mind with another fact that was left out!!
The movie Small Soldiers, all the Commando Elite Characters are played by the actors in the Dirty Dozen. Lee Marvin was cast for the roll of Major Chip Hazard but died before the movie was finished, so they recast Tommy Lee Jones for the roll
OMFG I HAD NO IDEA!!! I loved Small Soldiers before I even knew of The Dirty Dozen! I just looked it up and George Kennedy, Clint Walker, Ernest Borgnine and Jim Brown were voices of the Elite!!! Thats SO AWESOME!!!
There was "The Secret Invasion" which dealt with five criminals and a widow who try to save an Italian general which came out three years before "The Dirty Dozen".
Try not to forget the television series , called “ Garrison Gorillas “ made in 1966
Dirty Dozen, one my favorites...," Major Riceman...That's Right ! "
One of the first times I watched this with my dad, he recalled everyone in the theater clapping when Jim Brown was running to set off the explosives.
Thanks for mentioning the Merchant Marines ! 🇺🇸
Little extra... Richard Jeckel was in the Merchant Marines as well! & Thank You for your service!
The members of the Merchant Marine were not entitled to combat pay, combat decorations or awards, and other honors and recognition due members of the line navy who served in combat or in war zones. Yet, they were arguably the bravest of all since they sailed into harm's way aboard vessels largely unarmed and extremely vulnerable to attack by German aircraft and submarines. The regs were finally changed, and the Merchant Mariners got their just due recognition. They were brave men. Going into the water in the far north Atlantic was almost a death sentence, a man in the water would last only a few minutes before freezing to death.
Wonderfully interesting my fiend.
Thank you.
I wish you rainbows.
I would recommend the movie Matewan for you to review. It starred Chris Cooper, James Earl Jones, Bob Gunton and several other famous actors
Lee Marvins headstone reads PFC USMC
I believe he went ashore 23 times. I'm not sure..
That's was the most important thing in his life was his experiences in the USMC after he made it in Hollywood he couldn't get out of there quick enough he felt it was a phony place to live in
I enjoyed hearing the rarely mentioned information about the Dirty Dozen movie and actors. I did not know any of it. I love many of the movies made prior to the 1990s particularly 1932-1969. Would you feature unknown facts about Island In The Sun, The Heiress, and (1969's Slaves)? A Million Movies and Jerry Skinner's Star Biographies are a part of movie history in my opinion. During COVID-19 we cannot attend the Cinemas and A Million Movies was entertaining. I gave you a thumbs-up, a saved, and I subscribed. Thanks.
Thanks. I’ll keep those movies in mind.
@@AMillionMovies do the great escape
Great video! I would have loved to have seen those poker games!
One of my favorite movies. A great cast.
Lee Marvin actually took part in 21 landings on Pacific shores. He was shot up at Saipan, where most of his company was killed, and he got a Purple Heart. The memories haunted him for the rest of his life. He hated this movie because, he said, it's nothing like war at all.
Telly Savals also got the purple heart
Marvin was right; it WASN'T a "war" movie
It was a "caper" flick!
In essence, it was like "Ocean's Eleven"; a group of men planning, and conducting, an operation against a target, whether casinos or a German occupied chateau, with the intent of either robbery or assassination!
One other thing, Mr Marvin; if the movie wasn't made to MAKE MONEY, then what the HELL was it made FOR! I don't remember Hollywood being so altruistic that they would throw away a few million dollars without the expectation of getting at least SOME of it BACK!
the film was made at little chalfont buckinghamshire and i visited the set and met clint walker, and charles bronson in the little thatched cottage. nice day out
13. In the movie "Small Soldiers", the soldiers serving under the commanding officer toy soldier (voiced by Tommy Lee Jones) were ALL VOICED by "members" of "The Dirty Dozen".
Ernest Borgnine voiced Kip Killigan (Kill Again)
Jim Brown voiced Butch Meathook
George Kennedy voiced Brick Bazooka
Clint Walker voiced Nick Nitro
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even Dick Miller had an uncredited bit as an MP at the hanging.
#1) The unit was always called "The Filthy 13" even when the mission had up to 18 men.They were led by Private First Class (E-2 then) Jake "McNasty" McNiece and were hid in the 506th Parachute Regiment. They made 4 jumps into hostile territory. Two of the men, in the wartime film, putting camoflage paint on each other's faces are Pvt.Clarence Ware and Pvt. Charles Plaudo. A still shot of them is between pages 208 & 209 of George Koskimaki's "D-Day With The Screaming Eagles". PFC. McNiece survived the war. Stephen C. DeVito wrote "Fighting With The Filthy Thirteen: The World War II Story of Jack Womer, Ranger and Paratrooper". The 13 took part in Operation Market and was in The Bulge.
The _Filthy Thirteen_ were a Pathfinder platoon. They were supposed to go behind enemy lines and designate landing zones for the rest of the division.
They were the inspiration for the "Filthy Few" in the Hell's Angels. The Filthy Few would ride ahead and clear the campsite the rest of the group would use when they arrived. They were not allowed to bathe or wash their gang cuts (a denim vest with the gang's colors on the back).
A gun club in Pennsylvania, just outside of Philly has a 200 yard range named after Jack Agnew, one of the 13, or 18...numbers are unsure it seems. I was a member there and maintained the range along with others. We took pride in caring for his work and legacy. He built the original.
@@erswnn The number of men sent was set by the mission.
@@leondillon8723 Thank you for the clarification on the numbers I've read.
Our Neighbour was Lee Marvins double.. I am going to inter him soon... I LOVE OUR NEIGHBOURS. STAY STRONG ❤️❤️❤️ I want to tell people about you P.. Xx
You didn't mention that The Dirty Dozen was made entirely here in England. With a virtually all British crew and a few British actors like John Hollis who later appeared in The Empire Strikes Back, Flash Gordon and For Your Eyes Only
WOW Jeff you really do your homework. I'm really impressed. You have a new subscriber. I love this channel. Because this was done three years ago I really hope this comment reaches you. I guess I'll never know... :( BTW I watched your vlog on It's A Wonderful Life and found it to be very informative plus it's my all time favorite Christmas movie. Thank you
Thanks! I read every comment and appreciate the kind words. I’m glad you liked it.
nice one. very informative about one of my fav movies thanks
Don't forget that the Dirty Dozen scene in Sleepless in Seattle was ad libbed!
Did not know that.
That scene is so funny doesn't surprise me knowing how good at ad libing Tom Hanks is on talk shows
My contributions:
When the movie came out there were large posters on subway platforms in NYC with a glaring error. In the movie the mission was codenamed "Operation Amnesty" but the posters said it was "Operation Overleaf". This is from the line in the movie where Marvin is being briefed and told the full plan is described on the next page, "overleaf"
There was also a T.V. ripoff called Garrison's Gorillas (1967-1968) based on the same idea.
Those posters were in Philly too
You forgot to mention Devil's Brigade from 1968, which was practically a knock-off of The Dirty Dozen.
A great film for the whole family to watch together.
"Listen you slob you slob",#2 Sir","Everybodys slipping on the soap"
I saw the Dirty Dozen in the movie theater when I was 10. 1 of my favorite movies.
They don't make actors like that any more. What a cast..
You know, lots of videos promise new information on movies or television shows or whatever, but this video actually had some stuff I didn't know. Enjoyable. Suggestion: Pull your camera back and bit and give the viewer a little more of you. The screen is a little too much face for a 12-min. video. Other than that, well done.
A fun movie but having studied the "European Theater" with modest diligence at the hand of some experienced and learned Academic it a somewhat preposterous idea.
That being said it is a terrific story. I would tend to stand in Mr. Marvin's corner and rate 'The Big Red 1' as a finer effort but consider all of the components... primarily Fuller. It is a considered, beautiful piece of cinema dismissed by snobs because of subject and cast. Certainly worthy, in some form, of one of your essays.
very informative, thanks.
Lee Marvin said it wasn't real to war how ever he had a very specific experience
"The Dirty Dozen" is not the first movie of its type. Stewart Granger, Mickey Rooney, Henry Silva and William Campbell made the prototype "criminals into heroes" movie in 1964. It is titled "The Secret Invasion." Might be worth a look.
Never heard of it.
Yes, I remember that movie, and you're right. The reason why many moviegoers don't remember it is probably for two reasons: 1) It was a combined US-British movie effort; and 2) the team leader was a British Army officer leading the charged. The sad part is that Stewart Granger, a fine actor in costume drama, didn't exactly conveyed that toughness Lee Marvin managed to pulled off in "The Dirty Dozen". That just my opinion.
Another Stewart Granger movie you should check out is The Legions Last Patrol. A lost gem movie.
@@dennisholiday1868 Thank you. I will check it out.
There was also an American military prison in Frankfurt, Germany that I toured enroute to my duty station at Field Station Augsburg (in the early 70's).
I thought that Victor Franco (John Cassavetes) was the one who was going to go crazy, at the Chateau scene at the end. Not Archer Maggot (Telly Savalas).
Fifty+ years later, and it's still the gold standard for the men-on-a-death-misson movie. And I don't care if Tarantino fans will get mad (they will), but Inglorious Basterds is no match for the classic. I know it was only used as an inspiration, and I know it wasn't an action movie, but was I disappointed in how little stuff the so-called Basterds got to do. Their leading man kills only one unarmed guy in the whole movie while half of their teammates disappear from the script after they just appeared in the movie. The Dirty Dozen gives its character the due they deserve. Every character is integral to the movie's climax. And Major John Reisman goes full-on Wolfenstein mode on Nazis and doesn't just sit on his ass while his men die. This is a classic.
I was the girl Telly Savalas killed at the end of the movie. Still going strong at 82,
I don't know any girls with the first name "David"
@dbltrplx Sex change maybe?
Very pretty!
david weston - Well, I'm Telly Savalas. Nice to hear from you, Miss David.
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One of my favorite movies.
I saw this movie in 1967 with my father, I was 8. I bought this movies and a vcr, on his birthday, so we could watch it together.
the copy of Dirty Dozen 2 that i have, also has the special edition of the Dirty Dozen with cast interviews (those still alive) from the early 2000s. Trini Lopez said him quiting the movie was one of the worst mistakes he ever made. he said his agent thought he should get alot more money than what he was getting, and basically gave the movie company one option or Trini was gone. Trini said he was fine with the money and he knew at the time of the interview that if he had stayed he would of been more popular that what he already was.
You should be able to dig deeper into this, it was commented upon in the late 60s that disorderly soldiers sometimes were sent on missions or special tasks just to pay back but also because some officers realized that on some missions they just couldn't send ordinary soldiers, with that it was implied that in some circumstances soldiers who couldn't conform to normal regulations actually were perfectly suited for special service, but as I said it was common knowledge in historical research in the 1960s but I haven't heard anything about it or further details since then.
Fantastic and informative
One other piece of trivia: Robert Ryan was the first choice to play the obsessed Commodore Decker in the Star Trek TOS classic episode "The Doomsday Machine". However, due to his commitment to the Dirty Dozen, he was unable to shoot the episode and William Windom was cast.
The Blue Max starring George Peppard and Ursala Andress was the movie that forced the movie industry to start using the rating system. While there was absolutely no nudity in this movie, Ursala was so sexy and sultry the industry was forced to start ratings. By the way, I don't say much here, I really enjoy your channel, you present really well. It is a movie about a world war one fighter pilot, with a very different plot of any fighter jock movie I have ever seen.
I think Donald Sutherland's performance as an Anti-Establishment soldier in Kelly's Heroes also helped him get the part in MASH.
There is a Dirty Dozen film trailer that shows Lee Marvin on a rare filming day off spectating a British motocross. Marvin, who caught the motorcycle bug during the filming of the Wild One, in his younger years became an avid motorcycle racer.
Dirty dozen is such a great movie. I'm doing my own spin on it as well