Lee Marvin on Training For War Movies in The Marines | The Dick Cavett Show
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- American Oscar-winning film star Lee Marvin discusses his reflections on past interviews and the influence of Hollywood and war movies on his training in the Marines.
Date aired - October 9th 1970 - Lee Marvin
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
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Members of the "WW2 shot in the ass" club:
General Patton
half of Easy Co.
Lee Marvin?
And who knows how many others?! Wild . . . .
@@chadsknnr Patton was actually shot in the ass in World War One, Meuse Argonne.
@@michaeldailey3219 Fair enough
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@@chadsknnr James Gardner Koreon War !!!!!!!! 🙄
He actually lived the role he played. Lee Marvin, served with the 4th Marine Division at the battle of Saipan and was in the Pacific theater in 1944. He was wounded in battle. He was an actual war hero and didn't just play one on the big screen.
06:30 :-D
Is wounded heroic?
Just asking.
@@Kitiwake Just try being wounded in
Combat. Then You'll know.
@@Kitiwake Going into combat and risking being wounded certainly is.
@@Kitiwake Just being in combat where every moment could be your last is heroic.
Lee Marvin was a remarkable person in so many ways, a war veteran, a brilliant actor and a really interesting person when interviewed. I just wish I'd met him in a smoky pub somewhere and traded a few pints, bet he had some great stories to tell.
Lee Marvin was a brilliant man.He was my all time favorite actor,and prime example of what a real man is.Great video.
Dick Cavett was the best interviewer. I remember watching them when they were first broadcast, but on review they are still great. They are lessons for anyone who wishes to interview anyone else.
So true. There were others doing great work back then as well. Also, on the BBC. Today, very few but there is one amazing radio interviewer and that is Terry Gross on Fresh Air. She’s been doing it for decades and brilliant. Download her podcasts!
How did we get fewer and fewer Lee Marvin’s and more and more Dick Cavetts? No wonder we are in a world of hurt…
Truth
He was a real man nothing phoney about him. Him and Bogart were the two best actors to ever come out of Hollywood.
How can you not like Lee Marvin . . .
He could not act.
Lee Marvin was SO cool. What a dude.
Lee Marvin is in some of my favorite movies.
This kind of humility about sacrifice is gone forever.
You have just insulted just about every service men and women in the world.
@@phapnui Wow, I can see how you'd take it that way.
Sorry.
I should have said that it seemed to be in great abundance in that generation but today it is the exception.
But the military is someplace you'd always see it. In any generation.
I always admired Mr. Marvin as the "real deal".
Great guy and actor
Kids of today have the avengers, we had the Dirty Dozen!!
The Avengers in movies or television were a British guy with an umbrella and a woman in the 60s. I also read comic books with super heros by that name. I never saw the Dirty Dozen when it came out and two years later I was in boot camp. I assume the military made more sense and was more disciplined than it turned out in the real world. Our NCOs could not even maintain their OWN SELF-discipline, much less that of others. Some were meant for military service. They believe in following orders when they are senseless and crude. Of course, I only had six years in the USN, from 1969 to 1975, so my impression of professionalism during a time of slavery with a military draft could be tainted. My dad said, "It's not McHale's Navy." It was not comical. It was dangerously stupid and had a boring plot. There are no days off and you cannot resign just because the war is over or your President is an idiot and liar like Johnson.
the avengers super hero genre is bs and cg, The Dirty Dozen is men doing what men do!
@@dev-lx8lp the Dirty Dozen was fiction you twit.
Damn straight!!!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@JohnLloydScharf Good comment. People think Trump is a “liar,” and usually it’s the first thing Trump-haters say about Trump. But when Johnson lied, thousands of people died. Same with Bush. Trump RAN FOR OFFICE promising not to start Endless, Pointless Wars and Foreign Entanglements, and he kept his promise. Your comment illustrates that past Presidents lied, and their lies meant death and war. Thank you for your wisdom.
I could listen to Lee Marvin speak about his experience in the Marines and Movie's for hours. An intelligent and thoughtful man.
It would have been good for Dick to have explored that.....I think it would have made for honest television. Let's face it...Marvin is an unusual character and very forthright....it's like he is just waiting to be asked questions that get right into the man....Dick Cavett was perhaps a little in awe of Lee Marvin's alpha male masculinity?
Lee Marvin was being a little bit self deprecating in his answer. Yes, he was shot in the ass. But, as I understand it, his sciatic nerve was severed. This would have been an incredibly painful wound
he could have been on radio...great voice
You can tell Lee Marvin has nothing to prove, and doesn't care what others think about what he says. Being a Marine and surviving war tends to make a guy like him not sweat the small stuff that most people fret about.
Yes, he has the utter self-assuredness of a man who's already faced the most essential tests of self from deadly and ruinous forces, and passed said tests in a manner that lets him know he possesses mettle most others couldn't perceive, much less possess themselves
He has met with triumph and disaster and met those two imposters just the same.
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Lee Marvin is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Semper Fidelis.
A man's man. Respect.
My uncle is, too! He never even mentioned to anyone how many medals he had earned.
Hes reallly buried at Arlington?
@@suesjoy I had an uncle in ww2. He stayed in the army 20 years retired in 1960. He never talked about it either. I about 15 when I found out he had survived the battan death march and 3 years as a Japanese p.o.w . A really nice man .
MARVIN, LEE
Section: 7A
Grave: 176
Branch of Service: US MARINE CORPS
Birth Date: 02/19/1924
Death Date: 08/29/1987
Interment Date: 10/07/1987
A REALtough guy, seriously wounded during a brave assault in battle of Saipan. The Best generation are leaving us fast.
I have been to Saipan twice when I was in the Army. That place still sucks. The people are totally dependent on the USA. The Japanese still controlled the island through tourism from the Japanese visitors. We tried to get a room at the fancy hotel owned and run by Japanese and were turned away. It seems as though they only rented to Japanese tourists. There were still bones from the civilians that committed suicide rather than surrender to American forces here an there along the cliffs and beaches. As a combat veteran myself it is true about the experience. Every survivor has a different perspective of having been in a combat situation. I grew up with many heroes from the Greatest Generation and they are all now gone. I come from a mountain coal mining camp that provided more service members during WWII per capita than any other community in the USA. Pine Creek, WV.
@@nermlinger1941 A great documentary, The Straight Story, followed a real elderly man who rode his lawn mower to make a last journey (true story). This is one of the most unforgettable testimonies of WWII vets I ever heard. It starts after 4:10 on this youtube video ruclips.net/video/Dp_DnZkoVNY/видео.html
When a guy survives a horrifying brutal battle in Saipan, that’s how you know he’s a tough legend.
Baloney.
Meatloaf.
When I was growing up in Canada, there were so many dads (my own included), grandads (my own included), and their friends and business associates who had been in wars (mostly WW2, WW1, and Korea). They weren’t all Lee Marvin by any means, but I see that same quality of character of the men and women who lived through those times in Mr. Marvin in this interview. That “it’s not about me” attitude is rare today. I miss them all.
So true... these days it's "it's all about me, me, me" from people who have done _nothing_ in their lives.
Indeed we do. My grandmother was nearly the eldest of 13 siblings. She had 9 brothers, 6 of whom fought in WWII, one in Korea, and another in Korea and Vietnam. Her home was Family Central for Thanksgiving and Christmas. As a child I didn't fully understand it, but I felt joy being in the presence of those men. And being the son of a father, raised in the presence of these men. I am 57, and they are all gone now. And I pray that I have offered even but a spark to my own children, of the fire I felt from those great men.
One of my favorites
I was born in 1947 almost every adult male I knew was a WW II vet.
They're sometimes called the Greatest Generation for good reason. Not the other wars guys had it any better.
Lee Marvin is the real deal, no pretense, intense honesty and experience. Had a drinking problem but what a man's man. Perfect definition of the word cool without even attempting to be - the best kind.
I don’t believe his drinking was a problem.
Charles Bronson said he literally wanted to kill Lee Marvin because he was drunk and late on the set all
The time 😂
Does that remind you of somebody that? President Trump
And just remember back in the days you could smoke a cigarette and the courtroom while you were giving testimony, you were able to smoke a cigarette or do whatever I think it even though it was a bad thing we had more freedom with them
@@ohnoitisnt666 Post-Combat, who doesn't have a drinking problem? Regardless, Lee Marvin was the real deal.
Lee Marvin was a pacifist after the war. Towards the end of his life he did some advertising work for the Marines, so he may have changed his mind about it. He also insisted that any violence like gun fights in his movies be portrayed accurately so people could see just how horrible it was.
He said when he got back home from the Pacific he was riding on a bus when a middle aged lady looked him over and then scolded him for being young and fit but shirking his responsibility by not fighting somewhere. He said he wanted to drop his pants and shorts right there and show her exactly where he had been wounded. I suspect that would have shut her up! 😂👌😮
Sounds like a Forest Gump sort of moment but it would have been well deserved. First thing that struck me watching this interview was remembering the sound of his voice. Always takes me back to his various performances. I think he was a good bloke. RIP.
Very woman kind of thing. Why wasn’t she fighting at any point, being weaker doesn’t make your life more valuable.
@@ComeAlongKay Some people are just self-righteous and judgmental, regardless of their gender. Or race.
@@ComeAlongKay she was a OG Karen. Wow they had them back then too. That's a trip.
@@supershane1960 Yes I thought of the same thing at 06:30 :-D
Working as a waiter, I served Lee numerous rum and tonics Phoenix, AZ just a few years before he died.. He was a pleasant guy and an amazing actor. RIP.
BULLSHIT!!!!!
Rum and Tonic ?
@@jamesrey4275 Only that.
@@bobfarrell6785 Why is that bullshit?For all you know he really might have served Lee Marvin.Marvin did live in Arizona.
My late father-in-law crossed paths with Lee Marvin in Malibu, CA in the 1960s a few times, and when my father-in-law said 'hi' to him, he said Marvin would give a drunken grunt of acknowledgement in response.
A LOT of actors in the 50's and 60's were veterans, and the honesty and humility is in STARK contrast to todays Hollywood. God bless America.
That was a totally different era.... The punk-ass kids (fueled by the military & tech industrial complex) have taken over, and they know what's BEST of ALL of us... Crazy... God Help us ALL...
Oh, I don’t know. There were Hollywood jerks back then and now, good ones then and now.
@neogeomaster let us all know when you learn the English language.
One can also notice, the difference between the hosts then and now, so respectful even self-correcting themselves.
Yes they were not so much now.
This is masculinity. And America needs it back.
The world is a lesser place for Lee Marvin passing relatively young. His wit and wisdom is sorely missed and never been more needed in entertainment and Hollywood.
Smoked 2 Packs a Cowboy Killers a day...gone at 63..Cancer Sticks
Lee Marvin was my best man at my wedding years ago.
He was a customer at the Raft in Malibu and was very gracious, a class act.
Serious? Must have been a long time ago..not years.
@@GTOberfest Indeed, since he oassed in 1987.
LOL. Which was he? This has got to be one of the better fictional comments I’ve read. Or perhaps just a bad troll job.
Some actors play tough guys, especially today. Marvin was a tough guy. Intelligent too. Like Bronson.
And both had good roles in The Dirty Dozen . Two thumbs up
There is NO tough guys these days. All are bunch of patsies compare to Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, ,,,,
@@biketech60 They were also great together in 'Death Hunt'. A must-see movie if you're a fan of either of those gentlemen.
Bronson did fought in WW2 as well.
@@Hunter7509 good movie, remember it well, another Bronson favourite is Hard Times
After his whole movie career, Lee Marvin was interred at Arlington National Cemetery... As Pfc. Marvin... USMC...
I was a Corporal with two years in nam 66-68. That's all I want on mine. Semper Fi brothers.
what greater honor could there be ?
The author Avram Davidsons greatest point of pride was his service as a corpsman in Okinawa.
@@raysnyder7512 exactly
SEMPER FI! LET'S FUCKING GO!
"Masculinity is what it is." -- Lee Marvin
DD-214 - America's Original Man Card.
My father in law was a tough Irishman from Round Rock Texas 6'2 a no frills stand up guy, he looked just like Lee. I miss him. Everytime his daughter gave me a hard time he'd get in there and make her peace out, he stepped in more than my dad for the sake of family being together. He was no saint at all but he was a sweet man with a cigarette and a Bush tall boy. His Irish family taught me more about belonging in a family circle than my own hispanic family. God bless him.
Marvin was from 100% New England/Anglo-Saxon 'blueblood' protestant stock, contrary to some assumptions, his dad a top NYC Surgeon........not a drop of Irish blood in him...
Respect to your father in law.
Lee makes light of his injury because he was that kind of guy, and the audience laughs on cue, but it was a serious wound. His sciatic nerve was severed and he spent 13 months recovering in the hospital. Nobody gets to choose where to be hit by machine gun fire. Great clip.
Too right. Shot in the arse is still shot, by a 7.7mm nambu round. A major wound. I believe his wallet in his back pocket of his trousers copped some of the force and possibly saved his life.
@@paulkeys175 Unlikely, don't carry your wallet in combat..
@@donlove3741 I am pretty sure I heard this from Lee Marvin himself during an early interview of his.
@@donlove3741 How would you know?
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@@BobSmith-dk8nw really ? A wallet in combat .
A source of info about you.. guess you'd need drivers license, credit cards,proof of insurance and personal photos..
All the stuff you'd need eh?
Combat's a very personal thing. That's a quote there.
Absolutely a great comment, I myself have never been In the Military or even close to War...but that comment gave me the chills.
Except for the fear. US Marine Corp 199-2006. In country 12/02/66-07/14/1969 Charlie Company/ Hotel Company 1St Battalion, 1st Marines . Only liars say they no fear
@@pepper13111 1980-1992 USMC...x3 Wespacs, x2 UDP's and x1 Combat tour...Oooorah!....Note: I did a tour with Wpns Company, 1st Bn 1st Marines from 83-86
You can have 6 combat vets all recounting their combat experiences and have 6 different versions of the war to them with some similarities . It’s been my experience . Vietnam/Cambodia 70-71 25th Infantry Division
@@benitomaldonado7080 Same thing even just being a contractor in an active warzone.. you get a bunch of guys on a truck driving in shifts, some handle it well and some can't relax.
Lee was sitting back smoking and then when talking about combat and the Marines he was on the edge of his seat. serious stuff in a real Man's life. no celluloid hero there. then it's back to movie talk and he sits back.
Good body-English catch there, Chuck.
I’m ex military, I noticed that, sat on. edge of seat and focused, hands on knees. Apparently it was a dreadful wound he received and quite debilitating. I think Marvin was a genuinely tough guy and an amazing actor.
He killed people and it preyed on him for the rest of his life - it's why he became a painter. He probably had what we'd called PTSD now.
You get the distinct impression Marvin really didn't like the interview but was classy enough to go along with it.
@@tooterooterville Part of the job. The dude is so damn real.
Lee Marvin is a GENIUS when you compare him to all the actors of today. He is head and shoulders above the rest in terms of modesty, honesty, intelligence, and an actual sense of humor. God Bless and Semper Fidelis!!!
Lee Marvin was very modest here. I read about his military life. He assaulted 21 beaches and was finally wounded so bad they sent him home. It wasn't just in the ass. He was always a great actor and man.
Terrence Popp was wounded too, then his wife divorced him back home. It's the 21st century ya know?
I can’t think of a gunshot wound that’s truly funny.
@@superfly2449 It's only funny if you eventually come out ok, and enough time has passed. Funny.....more like makes a good story
Real tough guy, not just a fake . Salute to an old Marine vet.
Thumbs up to Lee Marvin and Charles Bronson not John Wayne who was a fake.
Agree about Wayne. Big difference between him and Marvin in their movies. Wayne had to project his characters, Marvin didn't.
@@dalereed3950 I always liked Charles Bronson,Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood a lot more than Wayne.
@@johndavis9432 He Was Not A Fake, John Wayne was as great as any man could be and I Loved him for it...
God Bless You...
@@DAUGHTEROFBABYLON Bruce,you don't know what you're talking about and he was not as great as any man could be.You didn't know my Dad. And you didn't know Charles Bronson, Lee Marvin,Robert Howard,Norman VanCor or any other men who really were great.
When you (I...!) saw Lee Marvin in a movie you didn't see somebody acting; you saw the actual personality of the person.
He was vastly underrated.
Exactly
Considering how many times he played a villain, that isn't a very nice thing to say...
@@_XR40_ excellent point...!
Good of my favorite movies of his was paint your wagon. 😊
Yea mate he was never underrated , which is why he won a Academy Award for one of his roles.
and also why the ‘Son’s of Lee Marvin’ club was formed.
Could listen to, Lee Marvin, talk for hours. Wonderful voice.
He had wonderful long hands too, captured on film coming out of an underground tunnel. I think it was him, escaping from an army prison camp in the war. I'm not sure now. Getting too old.😷🤭😂😘🎭✨🔮☮️🙏🏽🙏🏻
And very interesting when he speaks
There is no lisp in his voice.
Yeah, he had a one-of-a-kind voice, didn't he?
@@josephpatrick2439 I realized after hearing this interview it is kinda strange but I like it. Certainly distinctive. I've been a fan for years.
I know most people remember him as the tough guy in a lot of movies, but my favorite role of his was Donovans Reef. Super funny role, excellent movie.
The fights in that were hilarious!
Donovan's Reef is a very enjoyable film to watch, but if I wanted to show somebody a film that highlighted how funny Lee Marvin could be it would be Paint Your Wagon, I just love that film...Though it would have been better if Clint hadn't felt the urge to talk to the trees.
When you upstage John Wayne, you know you did a great job!
Forgot all about that movie. Great flick.
Paint Your Wagon where he sang
Lee was the complete opposite of today's Hollywood SOYBOYS!
YOU SURE GOT THAT RIGHT,THE SMOKE FROM THE MATCH HE LIT,WOULD BE ENOUGH TO TAKE OUT HALF OF THEM!!
The candyass actors of today fall way short
Lee Marvin was a fantastic, natural actor, never forced just morphed into whomever he was playing. The men of his generation came by masculinity through just living. Men in Hollywood today put on masculinity like makeup...it isn't something you wear, it's something you own.
Marvin, Bronson, Brynner, Wayne, Peck, Gable, Bogart, they all owned it and the list went on for miles.
Well said.
Yes! Well said!
@Sooz Don't forget Mitchum.
Lee Marvin and many of the people four and five generations back survived experiences that put them in that position where they just didn't feel that they had anything to prove. "Been there, done that, let's get on with life!" I've heard it described as "comfortable in your own skin." I guess that's part of it. I just wonder if there will be another generation with comparable personalities on or off screen...
Does anyone besides me appreciate men acting like men, like Lee Marvin???
Actually, most of us are not homophobes and we're not obsessed with looking like tough guys and proving how fucking masculine we are every goddamn minute of the day because people come in all shapes and sizes because God fucking made them that way and if you've got a problem with men who don't have square jaws and bulging muscles and ten thousand guns the it's YOUR fucking problem.
@@Cryptonymicus WOW, you have a real problem and could use some intense counseling.
Whoa!! , did you just get dumped recently?!! So not cool, making an a** of yourself trying to prove a point. Start over man, start over!!
@@Cryptonymicus lighten up Francis
Someone has some self confidence issues so hates masculine men!!!!!!
Lee Marvin brought a wonderful presence. Everything about him was unforced: his intelligence, his great voice. His masculinity was not about being "not a woman", but effortlessly a man. They don't make them like him anymore. Something has been lost.
Well said. Not being not a woman just effortlessly a man.
Thanks for the comment...... probably correct : interestingly so... DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY.....SOMETIMES I LIKE. TO THINK:: “HIGHER POWER, FAMILY, COMMUNITY.....”!
Only 46 years old at this point but had already lived a lifetime. Such an interesting and cool dude.
A lot of WW2 vets aged prematurely because of the massive amount of stress in battle. My uncle was in his mid 20s and married when he joined the Marines and stormed Omaha beach. When he left his hair was jet black, when he came back it was pure white. I've seen the pictures, it's just unreal, and he ended up dying in his 40s. Same with Rod Serling of Twilight Zone fame. He was a WW2 combat vet fought a lot of battles, and died when he was only 50. When he had a heart attack, the doctors opened his chest and said his aorta crumbled in their hands. The hardening of his arteries was so severe they were like rotten hoses and they couldnt save him. Yes he was a heavy smoker, but stress does so so so much more damage
@@georgiethumbs2438 Just to set the record straight the Marine Corps were in the South Pacific and did not storm the beaches of Normandy.
I'm 44 and he looks way older than me. Could be 60 easily.
This was due too massive alcohol consumption, like dick van Dyke who didn't see war on Poppins.
My god I'm 46. I thought he was 86
I'm glad he didn't live long enough to be informed that his masculinity is now "toxic". My mother's favorite actor.❤
Now THAT'S a woman.
All part of that NWO crap. Being right & strong are wrong.
Who’s watching this after seeing the Late Night with Stephen Colbert Show interview with Tom Hanks?
all of us! we need more lee marvins 2day
me lol
It's strange but TubeYou coughed this up for me after the Colbert Questionert!
Colbert? Who's she?
Yup!
Marvin's military awards include the Purple Heart Medal, the Presidential Unit Citation, the American Campaign Medal, the Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal, the World War II Victory Medal, and the Combat Action Ribbon.
@@maxsmith695 completing basic training gets you a ribbon, everyone who makes it through the first part gets it. The rest of those listed are not handed out to everyone, two of those are quite rare, ribbons and medals signify what you did, where you were, and when. Some people go their entire enlistment with only the basic training ribbon. Some people end up travelling the world, doing things civilians only see in the movies, and many things not seen in the movies.
Ribbons are not for you or the civilians, or as a reward to the individual who earned them, they are for recognition between those who served. When in uniform their peers can see what they have done, where they went, and other commonalities. Some medals are worth promotion points, others are simply because you were there.
Its easy to point at the people who enlist and talk poorly about them, saying things like they support some repugnant regime or whatever. However, that ire is misplaced, and should be placed at the feet and bashed about the head and shoulders of politicians who send those men and women off to fight in for profit conflicts.
Its one thing to follow blindly or out of ignorance, its entirely another to accept the risk and responsibilities knowing full well what they could entail.
From my perspective people who deride military members are doing so to salve their own ego, to assuage the guilt they feel over doing nothing while others went in their stead. Their fear is propped up with timid rationalizations to justify their inaction and complacency. Thinking themselves smarter, or more of a rebel who is loath to follow anything of importance, preferring to avail themselves of fads and seeking out other weak minded individuals for attention and validation.
They are afraid to be the man in the arena, but will criticize and shout obscenities from a place of security afforded by the men at whom they scoff.
@@maxsmith695 The US military defends countless countries and people , we stand up for those who can't defend themselves.
@@SweatyFatGuy Best comment ever!🇺🇸
@@SweatyFatGuy I appreciate your articulate writing regarding why some of us serve.
Thank you for setting Civilian Boy straight.
I say, Hooah!
@@maxsmith695 Utter bullshit. You don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. Medals have been around long before 1915. Marvin saw combat in the South Pacific--you don't get medals like those mentioned for taking a stroll in the park.
Lee Marvin is one of my favourite actors. Nobody could put so much menace into a character or give you the biggest belly laugh.
Old school guys like Marvin, Bronson, Malden etc...were real " tough guys ". Most of them WWII vets with combat experience.
I love the fact those men never " virtue signaled " about their jobs as actors, they were actors, point blank.
Also Eddy Arnold... Green Acres
Good points Cy, the modern male leads are soft in comparison.
Don't forget Audie Murphy, I think he was the most highly decorated us soldier of WW2 , how he earned the medal of honor is awe inspiring
Truth Indeed AMEN
@Cy Brunel you forgot Klugman & Hackman.
PLEASE more Lee Marvin. And if you have any Peter Falk...
have you seen the one with Peter Falk, John Cassavetes and Ben Gazzara? It's notorious lol they were all drunk
shelby will search it , thanks for recommending
@@shelby8364 " are you guys smashed?" Cavett inquires at one point! Sly Stone & friends were even higher on another episode...
@@shelby8364 A " refreshed" appearance from Norman Mailer v Gore Vidal is, perhaps the most notorious!
I've been trying to get the RUclips Dick Cavett show I believe 1968 of Lee Marvin and can only get some of the show and it cuts off before Lee Marvin
Can you imagine how Lee would react today if someone complained to him that he wasn't using their preferred pronoun?
Now there is a real man! Great actor. Fought for his country. Left us too soon!
Watching him light up one cigarette after another I am not surprised he checked when he did.
Those damn cigarettes!
Truth Indeed AMEN
Cavett and Marvin are coming from such different viewpoints that they are having two different discussions here. Cavett's talking about masculinity as a pose & Marvin is talking about masculinity as a fact of life.
My comment made to this clip was as follows: I don't hate Cavett and still enjoy watching him but am always struck that, throughout his long career, he never lost his penchant for finding any excuse to bring up John Wayne with negative witticisms to otherwise emasculate, demean and defame him. He even went so far as to mention Wayne's sons, on at least one occasion, when interviewing Kirk Douglas in the 1980's, and implying it was a reflection upon Wayne (and his sons?) of hypocrisy for his sons not to have served in the military. Since Vietnam was THE issue of the day when Cavett's star first rose above the horizon, and Wayne forthrightly supported the war, it was as if Cavett somehow blamed him for the war or, at least, for any support the war had in America. Since Cavett had also not served in the military I assume his 'love of country' or courage should equally be in question? He fancied himself a "thinking man's" comedian, or he might prefer the term 'humorist', but his disingenuous manner, at times such as these, was more that of a wannabe intellectual.
@@12artman As a teen in the early 80's I found David Cavett to be a pretty smart guy and to be somewhat emulated. I didn't realize he had such a longstanding dislike of John Wayne. Now I find it hard to watch Cavett for any length of time. I will give him credit for having one of the few shows that would have lengthy conversations w/a celeb.
@@12artman Wouldn't say that Wayne fully supported the Vietnam war. I remember getting into endless high-school arguments because of defending John Wayne, who I agreed with. As I recall, he had said that he didn't believe that we should be there, that it wasn't our business - But that if we *were* going to be there, we should at least _try_ to win. This is what got him reviled by the left for the rest of his life.
That being said, Cavett was always just your bog-standard leftist...
@@12artman This is like watching a man vs a boy.
@@_XR40_ And maybe that Wayne was a chickenshit wannabe Hollywood soldier and John Ford openly mocked Wayne's cowardice during WWII. Or...maybe Cavett just didn't like Wayne's racism.
Marvin's voice seemed to come from the catacombs, so deep and rich. Marvin did several Twilight Zones, as well as stage and screen work. His portrayal of Liberty Valance was riveting. I loved his scene in 'Cat Ballou ', too. From drunk to sharpshooter and back in four minutes! When he spins his revolver and says, " Yeh," it gets me every time. ruclips.net/video/c1QGBNg1P14/видео.html
Speaking of Twilight Zone, Rod Serling was a combat vet as well
Don't forget his role in "Paint Your Wagon"!!!! Such a great actor, and I think he is the only ham on the planet that could have played that part so well. I believe they wrote that role with him in mind!! One of my favorite comedy westerns of all time!!!!
Yes, I think he did two TZ episodes. The one I remember well is called "Steel." A very interesting episode.
Back in the day when masculinity was celebrated, not vilified.
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend EMPEROR OF THE NORTH (1973). It's one of Marvin's less remembered films but is quite good. It's about hobos riding the rails during the Great Depression & is directed by Robert Aldrich (THE DIRTY DOZEN). There is a fight scene between Marvin & Ernest Borgnine that takes place on a moving flatbed that ranks as one of the greatest movie fights ever. You genuinely believe these two guys want to kill each other. It also stars Keith Carradine in one of his earliest films. Give it a shot.
Absolutely!!!!! I was traumatized by the great Ernest Borgnine, I saw it when I was a kid , boy what a movie!
Went to a movie in San Francisco when I was in college and when it finished they raised the lights and an announcer said that they were going to show a sneak preview if we wanted to stay and watch it. It was EMPEROR and Ernest Borgnine came out and gave a great introduction and then answered questions from the audience. One of the best and most memorable evening I've ever had and I'll never forget it.
Also check out" Monte Walsh" with Marvin and Jack Parlance . You will thank me
Brilliant film, hadn't seen it in years but recently caught it on one of the minor satellite channels, they'd shown another forgotten classic from the same era the night before, Hard Times starring Charles Bronson.
I agree. Emperor of the North was superb. Marvin was great as always, and Borgnine was never so intimidating, except perhaps in "From Here to Eternity."
A real man being interviewed by someone who wishes he was a real man.
John Randolph +
You do know that Lee was one of Hollywood's biggest liberals, right? So in your eyes does that make him less of a man? Actually, that makes him more of a man then you will ever be.
@@kzinful Lee Marvin was a Marine, Dick Caveat was not. Better stay in the basement Dave.....
@FAB4 This is about Lee Marvin, not John Wayne..
Lee Marvin was one cool dude.
Not a thing like Cornpop lamo
Lee Marvin and the cast of The Dirty Dozen were GREAT 👍
Does it occur to anyone that Marvin looks, talks, and acts like a beefier Johnny Carson?
Lee Marvin was an intelligent well spoken man. I am a fan.
The term "palimony" came from his court case with his girlfriend in 1978
Now, that was a boost to MGTOW movement!
Because of that case, Marvin sold his small ranch in north Tucson to and Irish couple. In January 1983, I rented the quartermasters house on the property while attending the university. It had a basketball court, hourseshoe court, running /exercise stations and a swimming pool and acres of beautiful desert in the foothills. Unfortunately, also had lots of parties with many school friends that lasted all weekend. By June, I was asked to give up my scholarship and leave. I have zero regrets and a photo album of those great times.
@@michaeljensen2013 wow, but school actually did you good back then, not now, sorry to hear
Oh yes,I remember
Lee Marvin was from our greatest generation and used his Marine Training to endure the harsh experiences of life and we were all better for it.
Yes. The Greatest Generation. My parents, their friends and my aunts and uncles. I miss them a lot.
Lee Marvin is what a man is supposed to be !
Truth Indeed AMEN 🙏 Unfortunately, it's Not many Men like him anymore.
How does Hollywood go from Men like this to what there is now?!
Exactly!! I mean, look at at the Hollyweirdos now...pathetic when one compares the two. There is no comparison!
Theres an exception to this. Keanu Reeves.
I think the range of roles for men broadened. A male character could have more emotion and be defined by his character itself rather than by what he looked like. Also, in the 1960s and 70s movies and almost everything else started to be marketed to younger people, and young people don't want to root for a character who looks like their dad. I'm speaking generally of course. Just a thought
What are you talking about? There were effeminate men in Marvin's era, just like there are tough men today. Life repeats itself over and over.
@@jefweb5043 pathetic is your comment. There are men just like Lee Marvin today, just like there were effeminate men during his time....
Now 70, I miss actors like Lee Marvin. So tired of seeing dainty girl models beating up guys in action movies these days.
Making impossible moves too ,
Me Too
@@billlombard9911 Charlize Theron in "Atomic Blond" was so bad that she wasn't even trained to throw a punch properly or the director didn't care that she demonstrated no power at all.
That would sum up most Tarantino movies.
A lot of actors from the 50's-70's were veterans. Now a days, these men are more feminine,
Indeed, my friend! Indeed!
There’s a lot of confusion about masculinity. Lots of people may think T***p is a really masculine guy.
46 years old in this interview,
the same age than Leonardo di Caprio but looks and sounds like his father.
When did we lose men who acted like him. We have boys masquerading as men now!
I tell you what if you really think that you go take a walk up to Arlington National and go to an area called section 60 and tell those Marines and everybody else there that b*******. I got free friends buried there I was a hospital corpsman in Iraq and every single one of them are worth more than you will ever be.
@@navblue20 I actually knew that about Bronson and Marvin.John Wayne came up with one excuse after another for why he didn't enlist.He just didn't want to fight.
@@navblue20 She's not saying that all men act like that today and certainly not your friends and other servicemen who were in combat in the War on Terror.However,a lot of people do act like that now,especially actors.
Pretty tiny fluffy boys they parade now on the screen ! I mean beardless Matt fu..ing Damon for Christ sake ! Tom Cruse over acts all the time like a queen . Pitt is adored by all women and uses his body instead of acting . They all want to see his six pack oh my ....Clint Eastwood is the last man standing .
@@robertmanfredthurrigl9424 You're right on all counts.I've never liked Cruise.He's just a talentless pretty boy like Brad Pitt and so many others today.Clint is still around fortunately.
An actor’s actor.
Don’t see that anymore.
yes, many of us think the same
Yeah you do.
When I joined, I was told you age two years for every year you serve in a combat unit. From what I saw, they were right. For actual combat veterans like Lee Marvin, you could probably double that.
The infantry
Oh wow
who's here cause of Colbert?
One of the most respected war actors out there. When he worked together with Sam Fuller, another respected veteran, history was not only being portrayed, it was being made. We have The Big Red One to prove it.
My great uncle was a S/ Sgt in the Big Red one .they drove Rommel out of North Africa, Invaded Italy , DDay beaches , pushed the Germans outta France back to Germany
@@paulettegallagher6668 I don't know about Lee Marvin, but Sam Fuller was part of that. The movie was based on his experience.
The real greatness of these old school guys, is there is no doubt they stand up when things go down.
The point of youtube is that it isn't tv and that we can sit and watch for as long as a thing is. Upload whole shows! Upload them all.
Don’t be unfair. The clips on this channel aren’t only astoundingly good they also choose not to encumber their audience with RUclips ads ever 90 seconds. You’ll find no complaints here.
They’re like Lays potato chips, you can’t watch just one
You have to liscene the footage
Battle of Saipan vet.
Lee Marvin, when men were men👍
"Can I ask where you were wounded in combat?"
"Yeah. I Got shot in the ass" *lights cigarette*
He made light of his injury but it was a lot more serious than he let on and he served honorably during the war and like many who have served in the military before and since.Without all of them this country would not be free and safe like it is today.
@@provisionalhypothesis yeah, lee marvin needs to come back and take care of this.
@@hannah1948 I agree with you.Unfortunately,Lee Marvin,Charles Bronson and lot of other good men have passed.
He is 46 in this interview, my dad is 46 but Mr. Marvin looks easily 20 years older. I think this has to do with being a kid in the Great Depression and then fighting in WWII. I can only imagine the stress those times on life put on everyone who lived through them. I love the old movies and actors. They just seemed so much more real as people than the ones today. I am sure some of that is they are not around today so no bad press comes out about them and I hear my grandparents and parents talk about them as they remember them. But still, seems today’s stars could learn a ton from the stars from the Golden Age to the 1980’s.
;-) I'm sure the Great Depression and World War II didn't help, but the man's constant smoking and drinking is probably the main reason he looked like a very tired 65 year old in this interview.
@@Norvo82 that and he didn't dye his hair. Like a lot of older blokes do.
It was cigarettes and alcohol. He only lived to 63.
Jesus!.How could anyone say the "Dirty Dozen" was a bad influence,more to the contrary me thinks...A great film with a great band of actors .
"General inspection"; my favorite scene of his in the "dirty dozen", with such a great cast
@@davidr5961 Good choice,but I can't really pick one scene,they're were so many fantastic ones..A true classic!..
And just a thought it w/b great to watch this on the "Big screen"..
I read somewhere that the only complaint Lee Marvin had about "The Dirty Dozen " was that it wasn't realistic in the way it portrayed war. That being the case, it's probably more accurate to describe "The Dirty Dozen " as an action movie, rather than a war movie. Lee did star in a more "realistic " war movie in "The Big Red One". That film was written and directed by Sam Fuller, and is a semi-autobiographical telling of his own experiences during WW2. The part of the sergeant was written specifically for Lee.
@@albertchin1050 Thank u for that useful bit of info(unlike the many stupid comments u receive on YT-but I was not aware of that on as far as this topic is concerned thankfully)
Yes I can see LM thinking it wasn't made serious enough,but I assume u had a Director calling for and wanting more humourous and comedic scenes(perhaps for greater appeal?)..But it still remains a classic👍
Clint walker also great in the dirty dozen posy
Of all the “tough guy” actors I think Marvin was the best. He was much looser and self aware on screen. More malleable of a personality. Shame he didn’t have a long reign as a leading man.
Robert Mitchum is one of my favs. Top 3.
I liked Lee Marvin too.He was a real man like my Dad,a great Marine and a fine actor besides but the best one was Charles Bronson.
He was so amazingly cool.
Semper Fi, Marine. A life well lived.
Lee. Marvin was on the tonight show with Johnny Carson when asked who was toughest Marine he knew he said the guy that played Captain Kangaroo was a sargent
Bob Keeshan.
"Masculinity is what it is." Oh, what a sweet, innocent and much less annoying time it was.
Don’t know if this is true but while filming Point Blank, the director John Boorman was falling behind schedule and was facing pressure from studio suits visiting the set. To give Boorman more time, Lee Marvin pretended to be drunk on set and unable to film that day.
He wore his unit Jacket in that movie I Company, 3rd Battalion, 24th Marines, 4th Marine Division imgur.com/a/JPeRYp6
I'm not surprised. Lee was a fine man. If you have John Boorman doing your film, leave him alone & thank God for having him in charge.
I hope this is a true story... It's definitely something Lee Marvin would do.
@@Droodog127 droodog 127
Oh wow
46 years old ,could pass for 60 ez ,tuff ol guy no matter
Letterman famously asked Oliver Reed...
"so...i hear you can drink Lee Marvin under the table"...
oliver reed took his glasses off...ready to kill letterman...
'nuff said about lee marvin...
he could DRINK.....died young but MAN could he drink.
I'm a year older than him here and yet he could pass for my dad!
He had 16yrs left on the ol clock at this point
Well you can see he's a chain smoker I'm sure it added years to his life.
Try to catch The Big Red One sometime.
Love that movie. One of my very favorites.
Great movie, quite moving when the concentration camp kid dies.
Especially the restored version of Sam Fuller's director's cut, which explains some of the abrupt cuts in the general release version.
True! He speaks with modesty, no bravado... Sempre Fi!
Paint Your Wagon.
Best Marvin parody to this day
That is a great movie. Ben Rumson character was hilarious.
Someone i know was friends with Steve McQueen. McQueen said be at the hotel door at 9 in the morning and someone will pick you up. He was picked up by Lee Marvin.
@uncletigger At some point they visited that house where the bar pulls back to reveal a swimming pool. I think at that point that home was owned by a film producer.
MCQEEN WAS DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED FROM THE MARINE CORPS
bad conduct discharge i believe
@@MARKIEBANUNCE In 1947, after receiving permission from his mother since he was not yet 18 years old, McQueen enlisted in the Marines and was sent to Parris Island for boot camp.[2]:106[21][22] He was promoted to private first class and assigned to an armored unit.[7] He initially reverted to his prior rebelliousness and was demoted to private seven times. He took an unauthorized absence by failing to return after a weekend pass expired, staying with a girlfriend for two weeks until the shore patrol caught him. He resisted arrest and spent 41 days in the brig.[7] After this he resolved to focus his energies on self-improvement and embraced the Marines' discipline. He saved the lives of five other Marines during an Arctic exercise, pulling them from a tank before it broke through ice into the sea.[7][23] He was assigned to the honor guard responsible for guarding the presidential yacht of US President Harry Truman.[7] McQueen served until 1950, when he was honorably discharged.[2]:106[21][22] He later said he had enjoyed his time in the Marines.[24] He remembered the Marines as a formative time in his life, saying, "The Marines made a man out of me. I learned how to get along with others, and I had a platform to jump off of."[25]
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I recall his death was also related to his time in the Marines. I think he was assigned to a work detail that was responsible for prepping decommissioned WWII vessels for scrap. He and several others were repeatedly exposed to asbestos dust which decades later developed into asbestosis, greatly aggravated by his heavy smoking habit. A fantastic actor who died far too young.
@@MARKIEBANUNCE he was a knucklehead in the Marine Corps then redeemed himself by saving some Marines lives. I believe he left in good standing.
Cavett seems to struggle with this interview. It's as though he finds it difficult to relate to those who had significant lives outside of " entertainment ". Lee Marvin brings a level of gritty realism with him, I imagine that isn't encountered often in television.
Maybe he was trying to tread lightly having heard the stories about Mr. Marvin's notorious temper, especially when he'd been drinking -- not that he appeared to have been drinking here.
@@bholaoates1542 Perhaps.
also, Lee was a man of few words, so it would be a tough interview with someone who doesn't say much
Tortured guy. But very smart and one of the very best actors of his generation.
Glad that someone hasn't insisted that every actor smoking a cigarette be airbrushed out. Part of the power of image art is capturing a snap shot of history. Men (and women) smoked, drank and loved different than today.
2 in 8 minutes
damn right. And it didn't hurt a f****** thing, nor did it offend anyone. Lee Marvin had paid his dues, and if he wanted to smoke while relaxing and chatting on a talk show, WTF the prob? There's HIGH ceilings in those studios, the smoke rises, the ventilation is great, so WTF is the prob?
Lee Marvin.... wow. This is one of the best little interviews I've seen on Dick's show. Great find.
Yep, they weren't a bunch of girly men like we have today.
A friend of mine's dad was a friend of Lee Marvin. They used to do a lot of fishing off the coast of Ethiopia.
Cavett tried to get Marvin to knock actors, John Wayne in particular, but he didn’t take the bait. I loved his response to the pouring of gasoline on the German generals.
. He was smooth not falling for the bait
I met Lee back in 1970 in philadelphia when i was a kid very generous gracious and kind and a snappy dresser
My Dad was in the 4th Marines invading Saipan. Irish Marine. Very Lee Marvin-ish. He feared no man.
Saipan: 30,000 Japanese soldiers
Only around 1,000 prisoners left at the end.
75,000 Marines & soldiers invaded. About a week after D Day it isnt remembered alghough logistically it was similar. Dad sailed from San Diego and went directly into combat off the ship. Never done before.
My ex's uncle was on Saipan with the 27th Infantry, IIRC. He told me personally that they _never_ took prisoners. No one trusted the Japanese to actually surrender. Too much of the time it was a ruse so they could pull the pin on a grenade and die a glorious death for the Emperor by taking several GIs with them. So they shot them all quite dead. No muss, no fuss.
Respect your father.
Wow
The old man said they had a small POW compound on one of the islands he served on and that just about all of the prisoners fell into one of two categories: the first were wounded and captured because they were too weak to resist, and most of the rest were Japanese Christians who felt their religious objections to suicide outweighed their duty to the Emperor.
Love the pacing and the depth of the interview. Can we bring a bit of this back in the modern era? It would be great to hear more of something real like this.
Absolutely love Cavett's questioning method. He's not even trying...its just him being him.
Lee Marvin. Childhood Hero. Thank you sir for your service.
It’s because it wasn’t overly rehearsed
I was born in '72 so I dont remember Cavette from viewing, but having watched a bunch of youtube, he is an extremely watchable interviewer.
Intelligent, witty, genuine, humble.
Big Thumbs up
Yeah, DC had a way about how he got interviews to be great viewing.
A real guy. A real American.
As opposed to unreal ones?
@mr scorpian yeah, morons who think america is the worst thing that has happened to humanity, there are too many of them who think like that. And I'm not american