One thing to be aware of before buying one of these; some people (I'm one of them) are subject to severe skin irritation from exposure to naphtha (lighter fluid). I learned back in the 1970s when these were new that I couldn't carry a fluid type lighter in a pants pocket, and can't put one of these catalytic hand warmers even in a coat pocket; enough vapor comes off to produce a large, red, irritated patch on my skin under the device. Because of this, when I needed hand warmers occasionally, I'd get the ones with a catalytic coating on a charcoal stick; they don't warm as well or ignite as readily as the catalytic naphtha type as in this video, but they don't produce irritation in those sensitive to hydrocarbons (plus, they're cheaper and the fuel is a solid that ignites only with effort).
@@28AccountsRemoved Ronsonol or "lighter fuel" that these catalytic hand warmers burn is nothing more or less than naphtha. On the warning label it shows as "petroleum distillates" but that's what naphtha is.
I love my zippo hand warmer, my antique one is difficult to find the catalyst for. (From my great grandfather) my new one is fantastic, I take it ice fishing or hunting. Put it in the little bag and in the inner pocket of my coat. I’m never with cold hands. Zippo should make a pair of winter boots with this feature! Can collaborate with Baffin!
Some good tips there. And I must agree these are by far the best hand warmers I have ever come across easy to fill and last a long time, but knowing what to use for replacing the wick would be helpful.
You do not replace the wick as there is no wick, you replace the whole burner which are relatively inexpensive but they will last about 70 uses, approx 900 hours
@@nathanroberts4935 No you don't change the whole burner you change the catalyst which is ike a little biscuit they are not cheap but not overly expensive either. But they are very fragile.
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@@FrakkingCreations I think they might do that so that it showcases the product as more difficult to put out by nature, so as a great fit for outdoors use. I really like your method to put them off though, thank you.
I just leave my winter gloves on for heat protection, pull the top shield/cover off and use the edge to pop the catalyst off, it falls into the top shield then you can set the bottom seperate from the top holding the catalyst alone to cool. Once cooled a heavier mil spec poly bag will keep a good amount of the remaining fluid from escaping due to evaporation.
I also find wearing it around your neck inside your jacket keeps you toasty, so it rests on your chest either between two jackets but not directly on your skin it gets too hot that's how good they are, that's what I do while riding my bike or motorcycle, keeps your chest warm.
@@BIaccCat I have some other ideas for this little device but it will take time and space to try them out. They are fantastic little devices way better than the battery powered types. You just have to be aware of the CO2 levels, but out side this is not a problem, if you use it indoors be aware.
This begs the question, why Zippo themselves hasnt marketed some sort of airtight container tailor made to fit the hand warmer, as both an off switch and to keep fluid from evaporation. Im sure more people would buy them if that was the case
I can't recommend these enough for hunting and cold weather fishing. I light mine before the sun is up and it doesnt stop until it goes down. They work best in low oxygen environments like pockets or inside gloves, unlike disposables. They're also warmer than them too and temperature adjustable by letting it stick out of the pouch or pulling the string tight to control the oxygen.
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I'm surprised zippo doesn't mention this on their own website. I work as a lot attendant at Home Depot and I think I'm going to try one of these this winter.
Agreed. It's the easiest hack for this plus helps slow down the evaporation of the fuel when not being used. Hope you enjoy it. It really will help keep you warm.
An other way to extinguish the handwarmer is to place it into an air-tight char, like a canning jar. it is not quite as convienit to lug around, but the one big advantage is that one the oxigen in the jar has been consummed by the handwarmer, it will not dry out any remaining fuel that is in the handwarmer, becasue unlike the plasit bag approach, it is VERY air-tight and thus no place for the fuel to evaporate to.
@@skyler114 - so far that has not been a problem over the number of times that i have used this method. i do however see the potential of that being a possibility. But does not the same issue exist if the handwarmer is placed into a sealed plastic bag?
I also recently discovered, by accident, that you can simple use the upper half of the body to knock the burner portion of the handwarmer off of the body (on to a surface that won't get burned) and once the catalyic burner is removed from the fuel source, it quickly cools down.
to solve the storage issue, i got a small keyring fuel canister. a small extra step when i want to use the hand-warmer, to refuel it, but i never have to worry about the fuel evaporating and leaving me with a cold paperweight in the snow. it cant evaporate in an airtight enclosure.(ignoring diffusion, but with the chems at hand, that would take more than a lifetime) alongside a liquid-fuel lighter, its all on a keyring; so now its a "grab and forget and be warm" solution
zip-lock bags are good to have in the cold anyways. inflate them like balloons and stuff them into your jacket. its cheap, lightweight and effective insulation
some diesel selling gas-stations distribute plastic gloves, to not dirty the customers hands. put them over your gloves, and your hands will be protected from wind and water. just make sure NOT to sweat, or you will freeze (why im recommending to put them over gloves and not your bare hands)
Today is the first time I’ve ever heard about a zippo hand warmer!! Lmao and you’re video explains far better than a couple others I stumbled across first, I dunno why it’s such a shock to me but i been snowboarding my entire life and never seen one of these, it’s just odd to me 😂
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I'm referring to LRTs (Light Rail Trains) that operate within a city. When you have to walk 15 to 20 minutes outdoors in -30 or colder weather to the station, a hand warmer can help big time! In those conditions, even in a heated train it stays cold because every time the doors open at each stop it loses heat and doesn't have enough time to build up again. Depends on where you live I suppose.
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I do it differently. I just pull the catalytic part off, wait a little bit for it to cool (I dunno, 20 seconds? The platinum has to be very hot to carry out the reaction), and then put it back on. That's it, done
Did you try the battery-rechargeable hand warmer before? If yes, then how would you compare it to this zippo one? I’m debating which one to get since I only need hand warmer in short sessions only
Yes, I've tried all 4 types including electric ones. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. My favourite types are the Refillable ones and the Electric. This Zippo refillable one is good for consistent heat and fast refills. It can get very hot if you use it without the carry pouch, though Zippo doesn't recommend it. If you do that, you will have to be careful not to burn yourself and also put it in the case if it gets too hot. Lighting it can be tough if you use the butane torch (blue flame) style lighters so I would recommend using normal yellow flame lighters. You will have to buy lighter fluid and catalytic burners as the burners will eventually be used up. The electric warmers tend to take time to warm up and may not get as hot, but this depends if you get a good one or a low quality one. They are good for the convenience (Press a button and it turns on). Some can even be used as a power bank. It takes more time to recharge the electric hand warmers. Eventually, after 500 charges or so the battery will go out and you will need to buy a new electric charger. The number of charges will depend on the quality of the battery and how well you maintain the battery. In the end, which hand warmer that is suitable for you will depend on your needs and where you plan on using it. Zippo does make electric ones too so you can check theirs out too if electric is for you. Does this help?
That is a very detail explanation and I really appreciate that! I am looking for a hand warmer to use for short period of time (less than 2 hours), which one do you think would be reasonable to have?
For ease of use the short answer is electric one. But there are other points I would need to know for properly answering... * are you using it indoors or outdoors? * how hot do you need it to get? * how cold is the temperature where you plan on using it? * are you ok with using lighter fluid and a lighter? * do you mind buying lighter fluid for a fuel type one? * are you ok with waiting for an electric one to charge?
@@FrakkingCreations here are my answers for your questions: - I’m using mostly indoor, outdoor not very frequent unless commuting in a very cold day. - I’m living in a basement in Ontario, so it would be as cold as -10 Celcilus but my main usage is to keep my hand as warm as possible for gaming and typing etc. - I totally fine using a ligher fluid, the main concern I dont like the refillable is that it cannot be turn off safely, well until I watched your video :) - Lighter fluids are no problem, and for the electrical one as long as it does not take as much like 20+ minutes to warm up, I dont mind either.
I think the refillable one is for you. I like them for the good consistent heat. The thing with the electric ones is that they sometimes take forever to heat up. I'm currently trying to find another good one. Plus some don't even get that hot. just be careful with the lighter fluid and practice safety with it. Hope this works out good for you and improves your game play!
I just take off the catalytic converter thing and it goes out . Although I agree this maybe be a little dangerous.. Except you are removing the the fuel not oxygen. Freeze spray would complete the equation of the triangle and would be fun.
Though, i think removing the catalytic converter is actually removing the heat and chemical combustion part of the fire tetrahedron and not the fuel. But i guess it depends on your point of reference... The tank or the cap.
Have you ever used a solid fuel hand warmer? Each fuel stick lasts several hours and is compact enough that you can carry a bunch of them, and putting it out is as simple as opening up the clamshell case and dumping the fuel stick out into a bucket of water or non-flammable surface. I use them when camping in the winter because the fuel sticks transport better and are easier to use than lighter fluid.
Lol not bad, but I just tap it upside down on my palm until the burner grill detaches from the body. After a few refills the grill doesn't fit as tight so it's easy to just tap tap tap it loose. Ez pz no burns and no extra gear (no offense to the ziploc method)
With this solution to be able to turn off the hand warmer, i wouldn't think that anyone would want to only fill it to run half of the stated time. I believe in the manual it indicates how and if IRC it is about half of the filling bottle.
An Altoids tin or simalr would work better than a plastic bag. Or you can use the black bag as an insulator for your fingers and pull off the burner. Almost instant turn off. Just wait a minute or two for cooldown.
Dont compromise on the ziplocs, heat a butter knife with a smooth edge for 1 full minute on top of a flame then, on q wooden cutting board, slice the ziploc bag to the desired size. This will leave you with a smaller ziploc and a sealed plastic pouch. Make sure to let things cool before handling, this goes for the knife and bag.
Yes, but this is not a problem because the tent is not airtight. Please note that you don't need to crack open a vent in order to use it because the small amount of air that seeps trough the seams and the zipper is enough..... The rule of thumb is: if you have enough air to breath without the heater, you also have enough air to breath with the heater (your body needs much more oxygen and produce much more CO2 than this heater). Also, please note that the chemical single-used hand warmers also consume oxygen but they produce CO, which is even more toxic....
Yes. It is used up after about 70 cycles and you will have to get a new one. That actual number will depend on how you use it and how often. Make sure not to overheat the catalyst burner material whenever you light it. That will use it up faster. I used a blue flame lighter in the video but it is easier to light with a normal lighter without burning up the catalyst.
I accidentally worked this one out last week, I put the warmer in my waterproof pocket and it snuffed the warmer out. Good to know I can use a sandwich bag.
I got mine today and im kind of worried that it will open in my pocket etc. Because it is so easy to open. Do you know this issue and do you have any solutions to that?
Maybe take the cover off and press the middle flat part on both sides a little closer together. It will make the cover go on a little tighter. Also, use the hand warmer with the carry pouch and pull the draw string so that it covers the hand warmer. That will make sure the cover can't come off.
The foil should work on top of the burner but you would have to take the cover/top off first to reach the burner. As for between the converter and base, once you take the hot burner off it will stop the thermal reaction so there isn't a need for the foil between the catalyst and base.
If you didn't use up the fuel before you put the zippo handwarmer in the ziploc bag then when you take it out later it will still have fuel and light up. Also as long as you don't leave it in the bag for too many days. The lighter fluid will still slowly leak out over time when in the bag.
I haven't tried any other brands for fuel so I'm not sure. I would have thought that all lighter fuels are similar. Maybe not. Were you able to get it to work using Zippo fuel before? If you've only ever used non Zippo fuel then maybe something else is wrong and causing it not to work for you.
@@FrakkingCreations Thanks for the reply by the way but after keeping the flame long enough on it, it finally caught on and became really warm. Works as advertised!
Once you put it in the bag and close the zipper it doesn't take too long. A minute to a few minutes. You can use your hands to check. Just make sure to keep the Zippo handwarmer in the felt pouch still as well.
Thanks for sharing. That's pretty cool that they showed these on an anime show. I did a quick search and found a site talking about it... infinitemirai.wordpress.com/2021/01/28/what-are-you-buying-with-your-temp-job-money-yuru-camp%E2%96%B3-2-fourth-episode-impressions-and-review/
Usually when I use them they don't leak. The only time it leaked a little was when I over-filled it. Just follow the instructions and you shouldn't over-fill and it shouldn't be a problem.
@@FrakkingCreations it's been really cold here in Canada and I was thinking if I should get this or the electronic warmer ones. I forgot to mention, will it leak if I somehow placed it upside down in my pocket?
Yeah. No kidding. We were at about -40 with wind-chill. I like these if you need more heat and for that kind of cold these are really good. Just make sure to light it indoors as it can be harder to light outdoors in the cold. Letting it warm up a little while indoors helps too. Electric ones tend to take a while to heat up if really cold out. Sometimes they don't feel warm enough, though this is with regards to the electric one we have. Plus electric ones need a lot of time to recharge when used up. The fuel type can easily be refilled and you're up and running in no time. It really depends how you are planning on using it or where you plan on using it, though, so choose based on that. Hope that helps.
With regards to your last question, I'm not too sure as I haven't tried that for extended periods. When I did flip it upside down temporarily it doesn't leak. It's been a while since I needed to use one.
@@FrakkingCreations Thank you so much for sharing me your knowledge on these things! Definitely note taken. I think I'll go with the Zippos if the electronic ones don't heat up as much as I was hoping for. Getting older, my face really hurts these days from this cold outside with the same temperature we are getting of -40 and wind chill. The electonic ones are on sale from $50 to $19 on London drugs but I wasn't sure if it'll keep up. I bought a Zippo for my brother a long time ago, I'm not sure if he had ever used it for hunting. Again, I really do appreciate your respond here. Stay safe and warm! :)
Can be used indoors without issues..... but this is not a smart thing because: - they produces a little smell. - they requires specific fuel (which may seems inexpensive but in reality is VERY expensive if compared to the heat you get) - they requires maintenance If you have electricity, there are quite a lot of better options available (odorless, cheap and reliable), for example: - heat bags (either plain old bags that can be filled with hot water or sealed heat bags that can self charge using electricity or by putting into the microwave oven) - electric blankets / pads - space heaters (regular size one require quite a bit of energy and can put out quite a lot of heat, smaller ones are less powerful and requires less energy)
based on my chemistry knowledge, you should be able to "turn them off" by tipping it upside down for awhile and then putting it in the freezer for 5 min, maybe on its side. not sure i would feel comfortable doing this without a thermal camera lol. I like the glass jar/mason jar idea if youre at home since most plastic bags including ziplock are blown to a certian size or thickness that forms small pores in the bag that can let some air in slowly. glass or maybe even a bag of chips with that mylar aluminum coating should work better. maybe an empty bag of chips, roll the top up and clip it shut?
Yes, you can. There are multiple ways to "turn off" this hand warmer. I like the method I show because it's as easy as throwing it in a Ziploc bag and zipping is shut. No need to open up the hand warmer to take parts off. It also helps to slow down the loss of lighter fluid while stored. Use whatever method makes sense to you.
You could do that too as some people have suggested but it is hot and you will have to be careful. If you don't put it in a sealed bag it will also evaporate the fuel faster when not used or stored.
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We don't care about dust resistant or water resistant. It should already BE crack resistant or it shouldn't be sold. I have two Ocoopa rechargeable handwarmers. They take 5 to 6 hours to charge, as I freeze waiting...even the fast charge version Ocoopa takes almost 3 hours to charge..Brrrrr!!! Zippo is instant on!...Ocoopa does not get nearly as warm as Zippo, Ocoopa runs no more than 4 to 6 hours maximum, then dies and goes cold. Zippo costs about $14.00 to $17.00 and runs for 18 to 24 hours on a thimble full of lighter fluid...Ocoopa costs $30 to $40.00. Where is the bargain in Ocoopa??? ....Not.
@@guitarlight3935 Thanks for your feedback. Our handwarmer could last up to 15 hours depending on the capacity of the different models and the heating level you set. Even our 118 model with the lowest capacity 5200mAh could last up to 8 hours. If the one you have could only last for 4-6 hours, there might be some problem and we would be happy to send you a replacement. Besides, it also doubles as a power bank to charge your phone and it is more environment-friendly. I believe every coin has two sides. Every product has its own merits and demerits as well. We value every voice from our customers and we are always ready and willing to improve.
That can work for at home or office storage but when on the go you will want to have the ziplock bags. Potentially, for longer storage, it may be better in the mason jar but i haven't tested this.
I prefer using those new USB power bank ones. I got a set of big ones that fill your entire hand and each have 14000mAh batteries. They last a LONG time, heat on both sides, and also have a little flashlight on them, and they also still work as a usb power bank.
From a legal point of view, it is probably safer for them to say there is no way to put it out than offer "methods to extinguish it". Someone could say they followed Zippos's instructions but it still burnt their house down. You can't idiot-proof the process.
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Maybe give it a try again. Make sure it is lit well and for the first few minutes, leave it out of the pouch to get more air to get up to proper temp. It can get to 80°C and up. Don't light it and go straight outside in the cold right after too. Hope you can get it to work better.
I don't understand how it actually works until watching your video. I saved it to remember when I need one. Thank you.
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There’s a rechargeable on that can also charge your phone but I have both
One thing to be aware of before buying one of these; some people (I'm one of them) are subject to severe skin irritation from exposure to naphtha (lighter fluid). I learned back in the 1970s when these were new that I couldn't carry a fluid type lighter in a pants pocket, and can't put one of these catalytic hand warmers even in a coat pocket; enough vapor comes off to produce a large, red, irritated patch on my skin under the device. Because of this, when I needed hand warmers occasionally, I'd get the ones with a catalytic coating on a charcoal stick; they don't warm as well or ignite as readily as the catalytic naphtha type as in this video, but they don't produce irritation in those sensitive to hydrocarbons (plus, they're cheaper and the fuel is a solid that ignites only with effort).
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure it will help others out there to select the best hand warming solution.
You should have ordered the gluten-free lighter fluid
@@alfonsedente9679 thats not funny.
Good thing it's not naptha
@@28AccountsRemoved Ronsonol or "lighter fuel" that these catalytic hand warmers burn is nothing more or less than naphtha. On the warning label it shows as "petroleum distillates" but that's what naphtha is.
I love my zippo hand warmer, my antique one is difficult to find the catalyst for. (From my great grandfather) my new one is fantastic, I take it ice fishing or hunting. Put it in the little bag and in the inner pocket of my coat. I’m never with cold hands.
Zippo should make a pair of winter boots with this feature! Can collaborate with Baffin!
Thanks for sharing. Agreed. They should make more warmers that use the same technique.
Some good tips there.
And I must agree these are by far the best hand warmers I have ever come across easy to fill and last a long time, but knowing what to use for replacing the wick would be helpful.
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You do not replace the wick as there is no wick, you replace the whole burner which are relatively inexpensive but they will last about 70 uses, approx 900 hours
@@nathanroberts4935 No you don't change the whole burner you change the catalyst which is ike a little biscuit they are not cheap but not overly expensive either.
But they are very fragile.
@@flitsiesthey're like $6 USD, fairly cheap
Just bought one. Was surprised instructions had no suggestions re how to stop. Thank you for showing us how.
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@@FrakkingCreations I think they might do that so that it showcases the product as more difficult to put out by nature, so as a great fit for outdoors use.
I really like your method to put them off though, thank you.
Good point and Thank you for the comment.
I just leave my winter gloves on for heat protection, pull the top shield/cover off and use the edge to pop the catalyst off, it falls into the top shield then you can set the bottom seperate from the top holding the catalyst alone to cool.
Once cooled a heavier mil spec poly bag will keep a good amount of the remaining fluid from escaping due to evaporation.
I also find wearing it around your neck inside your jacket keeps you toasty, so it rests on your chest either between two jackets but not directly on your skin it gets too hot that's how good they are, that's what I do while riding my bike or motorcycle, keeps your chest warm.
Good info. Thanks for sharing this!
This is a great idea actually, thanks for the tip I’m going to do this.
@@BIaccCat I have some other ideas for this little device but it will take time and space to try them out.
They are fantastic little devices way better than the battery powered types.
You just have to be aware of the CO2 levels, but out side this is not a problem, if you use it indoors be aware.
Thanks for the tip. 😊💪👊
That's the same way that I use mine as well.
This begs the question, why Zippo themselves hasnt marketed some sort of airtight container tailor made to fit the hand warmer, as both an off switch and to keep fluid from evaporation. Im sure more people would buy them if that was the case
I can't recommend these enough for hunting and cold weather fishing. I light mine before the sun is up and it doesnt stop until it goes down. They work best in low oxygen environments like pockets or inside gloves, unlike disposables. They're also warmer than them too and temperature adjustable by letting it stick out of the pouch or pulling the string tight to control the oxygen.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Very useful and common sense knowledge.
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I'm surprised zippo doesn't mention this on their own website. I work as a lot attendant at Home Depot and I think I'm going to try one of these this winter.
Agreed. It's the easiest hack for this plus helps slow down the evaporation of the fuel when not being used.
Hope you enjoy it. It really will help keep you warm.
Easy to answer. They want you to burn more fuel than nece$$ary so you have to buy more fuel than nece$$ary.
I love mine but I’m surprised no one has seemed to mention they do stink slightly.
Not a deal breaker but sometimes you get an unpleasant odor.
True. The smell isn't mentioned much and may annoy some people.
An other way to extinguish the handwarmer is to place it into an air-tight char, like a canning jar. it is not quite as convienit to lug around, but the one big advantage is that one the oxigen in the jar has been consummed by the handwarmer, it will not dry out any remaining fuel that is in the handwarmer, becasue unlike the plasit bag approach, it is VERY air-tight and thus no place for the fuel to evaporate to.
the concern though about that is that you have evaporating exothermic gas in an airtight container, so that could be a small explosion hazard
@@skyler114 - so far that has not been a problem over the number of times that i have used this method. i do however see the potential of that being a possibility. But does not the same issue exist if the handwarmer is placed into a sealed plastic bag?
I also recently discovered, by accident, that you can simple use the upper half of the body to knock the burner portion of the handwarmer off of the body (on to a surface that won't get burned) and once the catalyic burner is removed from the fuel source, it quickly cools down.
@@LarryCoates1948ziploc bags aren't 100% air tight, so the same issue won't occur as it could in a jar.
to solve the storage issue, i got a small keyring fuel canister. a small extra step when i want to use the hand-warmer, to refuel it, but i never have to worry about the fuel evaporating and leaving me with a cold paperweight in the snow. it cant evaporate in an airtight enclosure.(ignoring diffusion, but with the chems at hand, that would take more than a lifetime)
alongside a liquid-fuel lighter, its all on a keyring; so now its a "grab and forget and be warm" solution
zip-lock bags are good to have in the cold anyways. inflate them like balloons and stuff them into your jacket. its cheap, lightweight and effective insulation
some diesel selling gas-stations distribute plastic gloves, to not dirty the customers hands. put them over your gloves, and your hands will be protected from wind and water. just make sure NOT to sweat, or you will freeze (why im recommending to put them over gloves and not your bare hands)
Today is the first time I’ve ever heard about a zippo hand warmer!! Lmao and you’re video explains far better than a couple others I stumbled across first, I dunno why it’s such a shock to me but i been snowboarding my entire life and never seen one of these, it’s just odd to me 😂
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I would have incorrectly expected most outdoors people to have heard of these handwarmers before. I guess we all learn something new everyday!
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They been around for like 20 years, where u been?
I'm referring to LRTs (Light Rail Trains) that operate within a city. When you have to walk 15 to 20 minutes outdoors in -30 or colder weather to the station, a hand warmer can help big time! In those conditions, even in a heated train it stays cold because every time the doors open at each stop it loses heat and doesn't have enough time to build up again. Depends on where you live I suppose.
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I didn’t know a zippo hand warmer existed. But now I must have one.
Its works great now thanks for the pointers
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@@FrakkingCreations I already have.
Very helpful thank you. Isn't it funny how Zippo and other hand warmer makers.. "forget" to tell you this about putting it out and saving fuel?
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I do it differently. I just pull the catalytic part off, wait a little bit for it to cool (I dunno, 20 seconds? The platinum has to be very hot to carry out the reaction), and then put it back on. That's it, done
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Did you try the battery-rechargeable hand warmer before? If yes, then how would you compare it to this zippo one? I’m debating which one to get since I only need hand warmer in short sessions only
Yes, I've tried all 4 types including electric ones. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. My favourite types are the Refillable ones and the Electric.
This Zippo refillable one is good for consistent heat and fast refills. It can get very hot if you use it without the carry pouch, though Zippo doesn't recommend it. If you do that, you will have to be careful not to burn yourself and also put it in the case if it gets too hot. Lighting it can be tough if you use the butane torch (blue flame) style lighters so I would recommend using normal yellow flame lighters. You will have to buy lighter fluid and catalytic burners as the burners will eventually be used up.
The electric warmers tend to take time to warm up and may not get as hot, but this depends if you get a good one or a low quality one. They are good for the convenience (Press a button and it turns on). Some can even be used as a power bank. It takes more time to recharge the electric hand warmers. Eventually, after 500 charges or so the battery will go out and you will need to buy a new electric charger. The number of charges will depend on the quality of the battery and how well you maintain the battery.
In the end, which hand warmer that is suitable for you will depend on your needs and where you plan on using it. Zippo does make electric ones too so you can check theirs out too if electric is for you.
Does this help?
That is a very detail explanation and I really appreciate that! I am looking for a hand warmer to use for short period of time (less than 2 hours), which one do you think would be reasonable to have?
For ease of use the short answer is electric one. But there are other points I would need to know for properly answering...
* are you using it indoors or outdoors?
* how hot do you need it to get?
* how cold is the temperature where you plan on using it?
* are you ok with using lighter fluid and a lighter?
* do you mind buying lighter fluid for a fuel type one?
* are you ok with waiting for an electric one to charge?
@@FrakkingCreations here are my answers for your questions:
- I’m using mostly indoor, outdoor not very frequent unless commuting in a very cold day.
- I’m living in a basement in Ontario, so it would be as cold as -10 Celcilus but my main usage is to keep my hand as warm as possible for gaming and typing etc.
- I totally fine using a ligher fluid, the main concern I dont like the refillable is that it cannot be turn off safely, well until I watched your video :)
- Lighter fluids are no problem, and for the electrical one as long as it does not take as much like 20+ minutes to warm up, I dont mind either.
I think the refillable one is for you. I like them for the good consistent heat. The thing with the electric ones is that they sometimes take forever to heat up. I'm currently trying to find another good one. Plus some don't even get that hot.
just be careful with the lighter fluid and practice safety with it.
Hope this works out good for you and improves your game play!
Mine came with a small cap that extinguishes the catalyst. Although it has no lanyard and is easy to lose.
I just take off the catalytic converter thing and it goes out . Although I agree this maybe be a little dangerous.. Except you are removing the the fuel not oxygen. Freeze spray would complete the equation of the triangle and would be fun.
Though, i think removing the catalytic converter is actually removing the heat and chemical combustion part of the fire tetrahedron and not the fuel. But i guess it depends on your point of reference... The tank or the cap.
Have you ever used a solid fuel hand warmer? Each fuel stick lasts several hours and is compact enough that you can carry a bunch of them, and putting it out is as simple as opening up the clamshell case and dumping the fuel stick out into a bucket of water or non-flammable surface. I use them when camping in the winter because the fuel sticks transport better and are easier to use than lighter fluid.
No I haven't, but have heard of them. Thanks for sharing your experience.
They look oddly shaped, can't be inserted in gloves.
Lol not bad, but I just tap it upside down on my palm until the burner grill detaches from the body. After a few refills the grill doesn't fit as tight so it's easy to just tap tap tap it loose. Ez pz no burns and no extra gear (no offense to the ziploc method)
So much this. So easy, I assumed everyone knew it.
Hi , how much the 12h and 6h one needs to be filled if you want them to be burn half of their stated time ? thanks
With this solution to be able to turn off the hand warmer, i wouldn't think that anyone would want to only fill it to run half of the stated time. I believe in the manual it indicates how and if IRC it is about half of the filling bottle.
An Altoids tin or simalr would work better than a plastic bag. Or you can use the black bag as an insulator for your fingers and pull off the burner. Almost instant turn off. Just wait a minute or two for cooldown.
Dont compromise on the ziplocs, heat a butter knife with a smooth edge for 1 full minute on top of a flame then, on q wooden cutting board, slice the ziploc bag to the desired size. This will leave you with a smaller ziploc and a sealed plastic pouch. Make sure to let things cool before handling, this goes for the knife and bag.
Its actually a fire tetrahedron now: fuel, oxygen, heat, and chemical combustion (the new one)
That's right. Thank you.
Well ... fire IS Combustion of oxygen and any fuel so yeah.. the combustion is fire
It's actually a fire pentahedron now: fuel, oxidizer, heat, chemical combustion, and exhaust displacement.
I just set my on the counter and let it run through the fuel because in the bag it's fine set on stone or tile.
I just use my Multi tool to take the week off and set it on the ground for a little bit
If you sumerge the bag into water before closing it completely, you will have something like vacuum bag.
Weird-using mine for the first time right now, and this video shows up in my feed
Do you think these handwarmers emit harmful gases like if used in a small tent overnight
Yes, but this is not a problem because the tent is not airtight.
Please note that you don't need to crack open a vent in order to use it because the small amount of air that seeps trough the seams and the zipper is enough.....
The rule of thumb is: if you have enough air to breath without the heater, you also have enough air to breath with the heater (your body needs much more oxygen and produce much more CO2 than this heater).
Also, please note that the chemical single-used hand warmers also consume oxygen but they produce CO, which is even more toxic....
Thank you
You're welcome
Is it safe to put the warmer in a cotton sock?
I accidentally threw away the bag that came with it.
I just use the bag as a glove and remove catalytic converter hahaha
Great tnxs.
Thank you!
do i have to replace the burning part? or it'll last forever? if i have to replace it, how long is it gonna last?
Yes. It is used up after about 70 cycles and you will have to get a new one. That actual number will depend on how you use it and how often. Make sure not to overheat the catalyst burner material whenever you light it. That will use it up faster. I used a blue flame lighter in the video but it is easier to light with a normal lighter without burning up the catalyst.
@@FrakkingCreations are there's any indication when i need to replace it?
It wil get harder to light and the catalyst may look very worn.
@@FrakkingCreations thank you very much!
You're welcome.
I accidentally worked this one out last week, I put the warmer in my waterproof pocket and it snuffed the warmer out. Good to know I can use a sandwich bag.
I just use my handy multitool to remove the catalytic module. Goes out instantly.
I got mine today and im kind of worried that it will open in my pocket etc. Because it is so easy to open. Do you know this issue and do you have any solutions to that?
Maybe take the cover off and press the middle flat part on both sides a little closer together. It will make the cover go on a little tighter. Also, use the hand warmer with the carry pouch and pull the draw string so that it covers the hand warmer. That will make sure the cover can't come off.
@@FrakkingCreations did it and now its better thanks!
You're welcome. I'm glad it is working better for you now.
Clever
Thanks for commenting
Or you can simply use the pouch and remove the catylist. Separate the top part you ignite from the body. The catylist will stop ignition.
Thanks for sharing!
I think that counts as an "unsafe" way to stop it. At least in the parts of the US where people tend not to know that hot surfaces are hot.
How about some foil either on top of the burner or in between the catalytic converter and the base.
The foil should work on top of the burner but you would have to take the cover/top off first to reach the burner. As for between the converter and base, once you take the hot burner off it will stop the thermal reaction so there isn't a need for the foil between the catalyst and base.
Is this one of those "snuff films" I've heard so much about?
Can u tell me what milliliter is for 12 hours I lost my measure cup?
About 22 - 25 mL.
Hope that helps.
or pop off the catalytic cap
Thanks for the info. That should work too.
With some pliers. I use the ziplock method too
I search this heartwarmer after watching yuru camp season 2😁😂
Surprised they wanna sell you more zippo lighter fluid? Somehow I'm not. Selling this with a cap would've been their first scrapped idea. :)
Can I lay it down after it has been ignited? Or the lighter fluid will spill out?
Yes you can. Just don't lay it on anything that is flammable or could melt. If you don't overfill it, it shouldn't leak or spill out.
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I can put in on again without need to refil the fuel right?
If you didn't use up the fuel before you put the zippo handwarmer in the ziploc bag then when you take it out later it will still have fuel and light up. Also as long as you don't leave it in the bag for too many days. The lighter fluid will still slowly leak out over time when in the bag.
Does it have to be zippo fuel? I tried other brand of fuel and it’s not warming up.
I haven't tried any other brands for fuel so I'm not sure. I would have thought that all lighter fuels are similar. Maybe not.
Were you able to get it to work using Zippo fuel before?
If you've only ever used non Zippo fuel then maybe something else is wrong and causing it not to work for you.
@@FrakkingCreations Thanks for the reply by the way but after keeping the flame long enough on it, it finally caught on and became really warm. Works as advertised!
That's great!
Good tip 👍🏻
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How many minutes in baggie till there’s no heat signature?
Once you put it in the bag and close the zipper it doesn't take too long. A minute to a few minutes. You can use your hands to check. Just make sure to keep the Zippo handwarmer in the felt pouch still as well.
Saw this on anime Yuru Camp Season 2 episode 4
So this is how it looked like
Thanks for sharing. That's pretty cool that they showed these on an anime show.
I did a quick search and found a site talking about it... infinitemirai.wordpress.com/2021/01/28/what-are-you-buying-with-your-temp-job-money-yuru-camp%E2%96%B3-2-fourth-episode-impressions-and-review/
Yep Yuru Camp brought me here
@@P0LTAT0 same here😁
Does the fuel ever leak on these hand warmers?
Usually when I use them they don't leak. The only time it leaked a little was when I over-filled it. Just follow the instructions and you shouldn't over-fill and it shouldn't be a problem.
@@FrakkingCreations it's been really cold here in Canada and I was thinking if I should get this or the electronic warmer ones. I forgot to mention, will it leak if I somehow placed it upside down in my pocket?
Yeah. No kidding. We were at about -40 with wind-chill. I like these if you need more heat and for that kind of cold these are really good. Just make sure to light it indoors as it can be harder to light outdoors in the cold. Letting it warm up a little while indoors helps too.
Electric ones tend to take a while to heat up if really cold out. Sometimes they don't feel warm enough, though this is with regards to the electric one we have. Plus electric ones need a lot of time to recharge when used up. The fuel type can easily be refilled and you're up and running in no time. It really depends how you are planning on using it or where you plan on using it, though, so choose based on that.
Hope that helps.
With regards to your last question, I'm not too sure as I haven't tried that for extended periods. When I did flip it upside down temporarily it doesn't leak. It's been a while since I needed to use one.
@@FrakkingCreations Thank you so much for sharing me your knowledge on these things! Definitely note taken. I think I'll go with the Zippos if the electronic ones don't heat up as much as I was hoping for. Getting older, my face really hurts these days from this cold outside with the same temperature we are getting of -40 and wind chill. The electonic ones are on sale from $50 to $19 on London drugs but I wasn't sure if it'll keep up. I bought a Zippo for my brother a long time ago, I'm not sure if he had ever used it for hunting. Again, I really do appreciate your respond here. Stay safe and warm! :)
safer still is to use a ziploc silicone bag...
I didn't know about the availability of silicone Ziploc bags. Thanks for the suggestion.
Indoors ok? Or not?
Can be used indoors without issues..... but this is not a smart thing because:
- they produces a little smell.
- they requires specific fuel (which may seems inexpensive but in reality is VERY expensive if compared to the heat you get)
- they requires maintenance
If you have electricity, there are quite a lot of better options available (odorless, cheap and reliable), for example:
- heat bags (either plain old bags that can be filled with hot water or sealed heat bags that can self charge using electricity or by putting into the microwave oven)
- electric blankets / pads
- space heaters (regular size one require quite a bit of energy and can put out quite a lot of heat, smaller ones are less powerful and requires less energy)
Zippo and ziplock bag. Hmmm... :D
or just strongly tap the warmer so the converter falls off.
How much gas is needed to fully refill this hand warmer?
These Catalytic hand warmers take about 20 mL of lighter fluid to fill.
@@FrakkingCreations Thanks
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I've got an old "jon-e" and you just remove the part that holds the burner for 30 seconds and voilá
based on my chemistry knowledge, you should be able to "turn them off" by tipping it upside down for awhile and then putting it in the freezer for 5 min, maybe on its side. not sure i would feel comfortable doing this without a thermal camera lol. I like the glass jar/mason jar idea if youre at home since most plastic bags including ziplock are blown to a certian size or thickness that forms small pores in the bag that can let some air in slowly. glass or maybe even a bag of chips with that mylar aluminum coating should work better. maybe an empty bag of chips, roll the top up and clip it shut?
I use an empty penut butter jar with a tinfoil packed inside to form a small pocket
Can’t you just remove the burner from the unit and it will go out ?
Yes, you can. There are multiple ways to "turn off" this hand warmer. I like the method I show because it's as easy as throwing it in a Ziploc bag and zipping is shut. No need to open up the hand warmer to take parts off. It also helps to slow down the loss of lighter fluid while stored. Use whatever method makes sense to you.
@@FrakkingCreations thanks for the info👍🏾
You're welcome!
Or you just turn it upside down and bang it. The Heating part falls off and its off.
Why can’t you just remove the wick from the top?
You could do that too as some people have suggested but it is hot and you will have to be careful. If you don't put it in a sealed bag it will also evaporate the fuel faster when not used or stored.
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We don't care about dust resistant or water resistant. It should already BE crack resistant or it shouldn't be sold. I have two Ocoopa rechargeable handwarmers. They take 5 to 6 hours to charge, as I freeze waiting...even the fast charge version Ocoopa takes almost 3 hours to charge..Brrrrr!!! Zippo is instant on!...Ocoopa does not get nearly as warm as Zippo, Ocoopa runs no more than 4 to 6 hours maximum, then dies and goes cold. Zippo costs about $14.00 to $17.00 and runs for 18 to 24 hours on a thimble full of lighter fluid...Ocoopa costs $30 to $40.00. Where is the bargain in Ocoopa??? ....Not.
@@guitarlight3935 Thanks for your feedback. Our handwarmer could last up to 15 hours depending on the capacity of the different models and the heating level you set. Even our 118 model with the lowest capacity 5200mAh could last up to 8 hours. If the one you have could only last for 4-6 hours, there might be some problem and we would be happy to send you a replacement. Besides, it also doubles as a power bank to charge your phone and it is more environment-friendly. I believe every coin has two sides. Every product has its own merits and demerits as well. We value every voice from our customers and we are always ready and willing to improve.
You want to turn it off just knock the burner off the unit
Why not seal it up in a glass mason jar?
That can work for at home or office storage but when on the go you will want to have the ziplock bags.
Potentially, for longer storage, it may be better in the mason jar but i haven't tested this.
I prefer using those new USB power bank ones. I got a set of big ones that fill your entire hand and each have 14000mAh batteries. They last a LONG time, heat on both sides, and also have a little flashlight on them, and they also still work as a usb power bank.
All the different types of handwarmers will each have their strengths and weaknesses. Definitely go with what works best for you.
From a legal point of view, it is probably safer for them to say there is no way to put it out than offer "methods to extinguish it".
Someone could say they followed Zippos's instructions but it still burnt their house down. You can't idiot-proof the process.
I would like if my like section wasn't mostly a music Playlist
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Literally seen an Amazon review, not even five seconds ago begging not to puf it in a plastic bag
What was the reasoning for that?
the Whitby hand warmer is far better then the zippo.
Thanks for sharing. The Whitby warmer looks very similar to the Zippo handwarmer. What makes it better?
Still dafer than a lithium ion battery cooking off in your pocket!
Waste of Ressources. Just buy 5 buck wool gloves
Just buy a set of gloves from the Dollar store then stick your hands in your pockets. You're fine.
This whole thing is pointless.
I just bought one and its garbage don't waste your money or time. It heats up but not enough to keep yours hand comfortably worm
Maybe give it a try again. Make sure it is lit well and for the first few minutes, leave it out of the pouch to get more air to get up to proper temp. It can get to 80°C and up. Don't light it and go straight outside in the cold right after too.
Hope you can get it to work better.
Been using these for at least 20 years ....there is none better.....i can get 16 hours completely full
Totally agree. The amount of heat and how it lasts so long are just too hard to beat.
From the 6-hour or the 12-hour model? Sounds crazy but maybe you bought them in a time when they were made better :)
Do do I make them not stink.