1987 with an original ZF 6-speed? That would have had a Doug Nash 4+3 when it left Bowling Green. Someone had to have swapped it at some point in it's life if it is an 87. The wheels in the picture when he's talking about Facebook marketplace are 88-90 wheels. The offset changed due to some changes with the front suspension in 1988. So what year is this car? 89 would have been the first year of the ZF-6 transmission and would have had those wheels with the early style dash. Most likely this car is an 89.
Awesome combination. I want to re do my 85 gauges to something like your set up. The factory digital dash is terrible. I respect cars like this way more than any mid engine wanna be Ferrari.
The C4s IRS, suspension, and brakes are worth the price of admission. I just picked up a running and driving 84 with Crossfire Fuel Injection (that manifold with its twin single barrel tbi units is on my shop wall) and im tossing in an Iron LS1 (5.3 punched out with an ls1 rotating assembly) and i want to do something goofy for the transmission after the 700r goes kaboom, im thinking about the 4+3 if theres an upgrade kit for sale somewhere to make it reliable suggestions
C4 NICE SET UP, PUT IN BUILT MOTOR, NEW BUSHINGS, LOVE THE HOOD TOP YOU GET ALOT OF ROOM, BUILD UP THE TRANI. YOUL KEEP UP WITH MANY SUPER CARS..CARS WEIGHT IS AROUND 3K ..NICE COMBO..
As far as I know, anything that fits 89-96 will bolt on the earlier cars, the main differences are up front, the sway bar mount is different on the A arm, and the top of the bracket for the front strut will need to be lightly either cut for clearance or opened up slightly, I know people who have even used vice grips or channel locks to open it up a bit. You will also need to either move your front sway bar forward 3/4 of an inch by either cutting the brackets or getting a relocation kit for it. I opted to cut, and ran custom end links from Etwas Bauen. If you dont need a 3 way adjustable there are cheaper kits out there.
This is a 1989. The coil over kit will not work on the pre-89 cars without a bunch of work. The the Ridetech front bar will not just bolt up to the earlier cars (with the vertical radiator) you will modify a few things to make it work.
Scott I have to second Shae's request. Now running in South Texas would love to add the louvers for cooling to my set up. By the way the L98 actually runs pretty well. I won the BSP division championship SCCA Cal Club in 2012 one of the most competitive regions in SCCA autocross with the stock motor and suspension set up by Dick Gulstrand.
C4 an excellent platform, groundbreaking that set new standards in its days, and has stood the test of time. With some modern parts and resto-mods they can be made to make contemporary sportscars look stupid and lame.
Beautiful car! I’ve been looking for a C4 for a while to use as a daily, and for my first car, but unfortunately most of the ones in my area have drastically shot up in price. When I do find one, I hope to gradually build it up like this one.
@Vladimir Putin I didn't end up buying one because it didn't seem like a super practical first car especially since it only has 2 seats. I ended up getting an Acura TL instead, and it's been very reliable so far. I still do plan on getting a C4 somewhere down the road, but just not atm. It could be soon however, since this generation of TLs are known to have cursed transmissions, and mine has almost 300k miles.
The ~1987+ C4 L98 SBC engines have aluminum heads and cast iron blocks. An aluminum block saves about 100lbs, which is not nothing. LS swaps are cool and all, especially when they are someone else's project -- and their problem. When it's _your_ problem, the reality is that it'll be fairly expensive, complicated, and time consuming, to do properly. But Dart offers an aluminum SBC block for $2500, and the old SBC will make about 90% of the power an LS will make, with a similar setup. You can get so much power out of a SBC, anyway, it isn't likely to be an issue. I'm inclined to go that route for my 1988 C4. If weight savings under the hood is a big concern, there are a number of other things you may be able to do, like a lightweight battery, aluminum radiator, or removal of unnecessary components. Check out this C4 LS swap video. The guy says it's "easy", then proceeds to explain how it's really not so easy. He has a four-post lift, for one thing. Do you? Me neither: ruclips.net/video/rDLhoTz5zjc/видео.html
I agree LS swap is unnecessary. But regarding weight it's not either or. You need to skim off every pound you can so obviously you do all the weight reducing measures and not just some of them. 100 pounds off by switching to an alloy block is absolutely huge and will help your weight distribution to no end.
Nice Vette, great job making it yours!
You know how to drive!!!
1987 with an original ZF 6-speed? That would have had a Doug Nash 4+3 when it left Bowling Green. Someone had to have swapped it at some point in it's life if it is an 87. The wheels in the picture when he's talking about Facebook marketplace are 88-90 wheels. The offset changed due to some changes with the front suspension in 1988. So what year is this car? 89 would have been the first year of the ZF-6 transmission and would have had those wheels with the early style dash. Most likely this car is an 89.
The c4 is an incredible race car and street car
ZF6 Is not the original Trans on this Year of C4. Original Manual would have been the Nash 4+3.
Still though.. sweet car.
Awesome combination. I want to re do my 85 gauges to something like your set up. The factory digital dash is terrible. I respect cars like this way more than any mid engine wanna be Ferrari.
Looks like a blast to drive! I got a 1995 c4 dough rippie car DRM 400 package
Damn I want one.
Transmission isn't original in an 87 if it is a ZF6, unless you're trying to pass off an 89 as an 87 for Good Guys rules.
It is a 1989. I previously had a 1987.
Guess you totally didn’t notice the swap from the L98 to LS
@johnbrentonlll kinda hard to miss, still doesn't have any bearing on the original transmission it would have come with.
As a C4 owner, it's good to see the C4 getting some attention.
1:39 1987 did not have ZF6, it has the Doug Nash 4+3, I have a newer 1988 and it also has a Doug Nash 4+3, 89+ got the ZF6.
This is a 1989
@@alwaysracin Well he misspoke in the video. He says 1987. Obviously it’s not.
The C4s IRS, suspension, and brakes are worth the price of admission. I just picked up a running and driving 84 with Crossfire Fuel Injection (that manifold with its twin single barrel tbi units is on my shop wall) and im tossing in an Iron LS1 (5.3 punched out with an ls1 rotating assembly) and i want to do something goofy for the transmission after the 700r goes kaboom, im thinking about the 4+3 if theres an upgrade kit for sale somewhere to make it reliable suggestions
Great example of a home garage build
I have a 84 and a custom 85 too. LOVE THEM BOTH RED FLORIDA
Keep up the good work Scott, My STU C4 is also on Ridetechs.
C4 NICE SET UP, PUT IN BUILT MOTOR, NEW BUSHINGS, LOVE THE HOOD TOP YOU GET ALOT OF ROOM, BUILD UP THE TRANI. YOUL KEEP UP WITH MANY SUPER CARS..CARS WEIGHT IS AROUND 3K ..NICE COMBO..
how did did ridetech's coilovers bolt up? I thought they only fitted 89-96?
As far as I know, anything that fits 89-96 will bolt on the earlier cars, the main differences are up front, the sway bar mount is different on the A arm, and the top of the bracket for the front strut will need to be lightly either cut for clearance or opened up slightly, I know people who have even used vice grips or channel locks to open it up a bit. You will also need to either move your front sway bar forward 3/4 of an inch by either cutting the brackets or getting a relocation kit for it. I opted to cut, and ran custom end links from Etwas Bauen. If you dont need a 3 way adjustable there are cheaper kits out there.
This is a 1989.
The coil over kit will not work on the pre-89 cars without a bunch of work. The the Ridetech front bar will not just bolt up to the earlier cars (with the vertical radiator) you will modify a few things to make it work.
@alwaysracin I'm interested about your interior mods. Always felt the straightforward dash layout of the 80s cars better suited analog gauges.
Beautiful vette!
could you send a link to the hood louvers? i too have a 1987 would like to release heat from the headers
Scott I have to second Shae's request. Now running in South Texas would love to add the louvers for cooling to my set up. By the way the L98 actually runs pretty well. I won the BSP division championship SCCA Cal Club in 2012 one of the most competitive regions in SCCA autocross with the stock motor and suspension set up by Dick Gulstrand.
great job on an awesome car. can i ask what clutch set up you are using? did you use a quick time bellhousing ? thanks
Yes, it is a QuickTime bell housing with a Tilton throw out bearing and a Mcleod twin disc clutch
@@alwaysracin Thanks for answering, I had same question.
1987 Doesn't have a ZF transmission from the factory.
it is a 1989
Nice!
Love the hood vents👍👍👍.
Does anyone know the wheels?
what rear end gears are you running? Thanks!
I have 3.33, 3.45 and 3.73 for the car. Currently I am running the 3.45
10,grand in suspension and shocks alone, before the ls swap
The ridetech system should only be about 5k
Great 👍 vid! I have a modified C4 myself!
C4 an excellent platform, groundbreaking that set new standards in its days, and has stood the test of time. With some modern parts and resto-mods they can be made to make contemporary sportscars look stupid and lame.
C4ever!
Just how? Im also in CA, how do you Legally street drive it?
You can LS swap pre-OBDII with buying the LS3 EROD kit. The engine package comes with a sticker.
Are those C7 wheels?
They're from Flow One Wheels.
Beautiful car! I’ve been looking for a C4 for a while to use as a daily, and for my first car, but unfortunately most of the ones in my area have drastically shot up in price. When I do find one, I hope to gradually build it up like this one.
Recently picked up an 86 C4 and you’ll absolutely love it if you end up getting it
@Vladimir Putin I didn't end up buying one because it didn't seem like a super practical first car especially since it only has 2 seats. I ended up getting an Acura TL instead, and it's been very reliable so far. I still do plan on getting a C4 somewhere down the road, but just not atm. It could be soon however, since this generation of TLs are known to have cursed transmissions, and mine has almost 300k miles.
Build sheet?
,esculent job
The ~1987+ C4 L98 SBC engines have aluminum heads and cast iron blocks. An aluminum block saves about 100lbs, which is not nothing. LS swaps are cool and all, especially when they are someone else's project -- and their problem. When it's _your_ problem, the reality is that it'll be fairly expensive, complicated, and time consuming, to do properly. But Dart offers an aluminum SBC block for $2500, and the old SBC will make about 90% of the power an LS will make, with a similar setup. You can get so much power out of a SBC, anyway, it isn't likely to be an issue. I'm inclined to go that route for my 1988 C4.
If weight savings under the hood is a big concern, there are a number of other things you may be able to do, like a lightweight battery, aluminum radiator, or removal of unnecessary components.
Check out this C4 LS swap video. The guy says it's "easy", then proceeds to explain how it's really not so easy. He has a four-post lift, for one thing. Do you? Me neither:
ruclips.net/video/rDLhoTz5zjc/видео.html
My aluminum radiator in my ZR-1 weighs more than the plastic tank stock one it replaced.
Same in my 383 corvette, honestly though a 383 makes so much power you don't need an LS.
I agree LS swap is unnecessary. But regarding weight it's not either or. You need to skim off every pound you can so obviously you do all the weight reducing measures and not just some of them. 100 pounds off by switching to an alloy block is absolutely huge and will help your weight distribution to no end.
Needed to hear this 🙌. The secret to ranking > P R O M O S M!
I like that hood, anyone got an ID on it?
kind of looks like a carbon creations hood.
Looks like you’re right. Thanks 🙂
factory hood that had the reinforcements removed and added hood vents.
I have a 84 and a custom 85 too. LOVE THEM BOTH RED FLORIDA