Takes notes 60-minutes, *THIS* is how you do an interview. Pat hit her hard with questions that were rough, but worded very fairly. He conducted himself with very friendly and inviting body language and didn't make her feel alienated. Fantastic work, Pat. Keep it up.
I really appreciate the fact that MatPat didnt go easy because hes talking to the CEO. He said gamer channels feel like second class citizens, Creators arent a priority, etc? Loved the channel and all thats produced, but respect level for MatPat went up a lot!
“We looked at the stats on gaming, we act on behalf of advertisers” so when gaming RUclipsrs like Vanoss gets their video demonetized because he cusses in Minecraft. Is she trying to tell us that profanity, virtual gaming is violent for consumers? This is not good news for anyone because MOST BIG GAMES that are out today are centered around violence. Even games like SMASH BROS, Minecraft, fortnite, Legend of Zelda, PLANTS VS ZOMBIES, even CANDY CRUSH (wow you’re destroying candy isn’t that violent), etc. it’s like she either misguided on gaming in general or she’s always been on the notion of “video games cause shootings in the U.S”
I love when mat just goes "hmm" or makes a face whenever she brushes over something, or says something that contradicts the research/experience he has.
She should be a politician, she says so much of what my English teacher calls baseless supposition (BS) or basically saying nothing in about a thousand words
I love how whenever she says something that doesn't add up Mat has this look of "Honey don't lie to me. Every topic you've covered, I've covered more thoroughly and more times I can count" which is backed up by the videos he put in the info card. He has held RUclips accountable every step of the way and we love and appreciate him for that
Oh man, you could really feel how he switched gears when susan started pretty much blaming the viewers saying to matpat "yeah but you do lots of games right?" That was the one time he intervened during her answers and man did it feel like he was holding himself back hard from crushing her.
iota-09 he had to play nice. I mean, she has the power to destroy his career. I could tell he really tried to paint RUclips and Susan in a positive light while still getting the facts, because let’s face it, RUclips isn’t unbiased. He needs to keep them happy; and he more or less did that.
@@amyx231 man it felt so painful yet fun when he mentioned how susan "loss" nett30(or whatever that was called) as the only event of RUclips trying to hold creators on their platform. Susan might have the power to end his career, but matpat had the power to end RUclips's reputation for good in those 30 minutes if he wanted.
WOW. I just today found out that some of the craziest videos i managed to flag/report with success are JUST BACK. Holy Minecraft-Creeper, wow. Just wow. How the heck can deleted videos just come back later?!? I WAS SO PROUD i had these evil-doers stopped. And RUclips... bought them back later? Or something? I dont even know what's going on exactly, i only know it's bad and it has to be RUclips, i guess?! Before, i thought RUclips might get too much criticism but now i realize just how broken the System is. Guilty get free and Innocent get striked all the time - but now it reached a new level???? The Good will be reversed!?
I mean i find it insulting that she didn't prepare a proper story or lie preparedthey new the questions he was going to give unless he gave very simplified versions to them to throw them off because if he did *+respect*
I've seen a lot of interviews like this where the interviewer is afraid to ask hard questions for fear of repercussions. I'm glad that Matt held nothing back; answers are a valuable thing.
You can ask all the questions you want but is an AI cult figurehead puppet going to tell you that they trained bots to hate good content and or anything that is the truth they dont want to hear?
The fact that everyone thinks that these questions are "hard hitting" in nature is extremely alarming and telling on the state of our society as a whole.
1:55 - What's your history with gaming? 3:00 - Gamers feel like second class citizens on RUclips. What are your thoughts on that? 7:23 - Is RUclips still a platform for creators? Where do creators stand in the RUclips ecosystem? 10:17 - How will article 17 affect creators on RUclips? 17:25 - Where does virtual violence fall in RUclips's violence policy? 22:10 - In regards to violence levels, how do we help you help us? 23:29 - Are there hidden limits regarding mature content? Why can't we know the demonetization rules? 26:37 - Is the need for creators to cover trendy topics killing content diversity? (28:33 - Matpat points out GT can only do a variety of topics because the rules where different back then. ) 31:01 - Why would a creator choose RUclips over other platforms anymore? (35:41 - Matpat points out that celebrities do get verified easier while Susan insists it's equal.)
Matpat: What is the floor made of? Susan: We didn't make the walls out of chairs, but the floor was our primary concern. We fixed the floor. The floor is good now. Matpat: n e a t
This is painfully accurate she worded her way around the answer and beat around the bush that at the ended on her basically saying to frick off. She and so are her bosses are smart especially in making money as well as deflecting
@@wilwhy7354 i mean, it's not smart if everyone can see through it. there's a reason all of the videos on her channel are so heavily disliked; no one's being fooled by her.
@@vedantbhard I mean, whether she fooled us or not, the consequences remain the same. There is no one in this earth who can now change the big corps for the better.
In her defence he does talk as if she doesnt know anything. I mean you're gonna undermine someone who's professionally required to be the legal face of the company and they will become hostile to you. Also shes tired and bored
ngl, INCREDIBLY glad youtube gave this opportunity to matpat, he's probably one of the most if not the most qualified person to be asking these sort of questions that actually affect so many people
I strongly agree, and it's so interesting to see that he's acting like he usually does, this really shows lots about how he acts, he asks what he needs to and wants to, and makes it stay real and at the same time, reaching for heights
@@nobody--so-far I don't think the point of setting up this interview was to give answers. I see it as more of an attempt at open (though unaffective) communication, and a step in the right direction. If people like matpat (or you or me) keep speaking up about these problems, I think we'll eventually get our real answers.
@@liwendiamond9223 She'd be aweful, her talking without saying anything and trying to sound official made this interview very hard to watch, she was obviously trying to get her pre interview notes into her answers which made a lot of her answers sound very incoherent.
Well yes,true, But I also think she was kind of giving half-assed answers,or more clearly incoherent answers. I do not appreciate her going off topic in relation to a question.
I actually really appreciate Mat's questions that he asked! He was very respectful and he asked the hard hitting questions but he did it is a nice, gentle, but firm! Great job Mat!
She was being very dodgy she didn’t answer the answer directly she brought up things that weren’t exactly tied to the conversation and a lot of what she said were bs it was partly her fault also the team she works with cause gamers are still being attacked so now other gaming platforms are more useful for me rather than RUclips like Logan Paul is still making videos he’s still making money and Jake Paul’s channel is still up and other RUclipsrs who have negative impact on young viewers who target children and they aren’t stopped but gamers we have to label videos are either child friendly or not and strict rules are pushed much more on us and I feel that RUclips abandoned us quite a long while ago to let so many accounts on this channel is an issue
RUclips is aiming for a larger general audience and trying not to segregate the core as much as possible. The deal is convince, they can ignore the base to indulge everything else and are so big aka pre-installed on iso, android, Google devices they can easily get away with it because what are you going to do? Download another non pre-installed app like twitch and sacrifice 70+%of your viewers? If so we will just aquire it and squash the issue when it's profitable for us.
Matpat: here’s a problem Susan: yes that is a problem Matpat: are you going to fix it Susan: mmmm no... no i don’t think I will Matpat: mmmm interesting
Aren't most Women like that? That's one of their classic traits. Never takes responsibility, never wants accountability. Only benefits and entitlements.
I know right... I listened this interview unbiased and it just sounded like she was rambling, dancing around the topic and continuously implying how they try to enhance the experience of audience and the creators.
His opening question was brilliant to set the stage of what was to come. I'd hate to say he "left a trap", but it was very well executed to get all his pieces in place so to speak.
Timestamps for the questions Matpat asks if you're interested: 1:55 - What's your history with gaming? 3:00 - Gamers feel like second class citizens on RUclips. What are your thoughts on that? 7:23 - Is RUclips still a platform for creators? Where do creators stand in the RUclips ecosystem? 10:17 - How will article 17 affect creators on RUclips? 17:25 - Where does virtual violence fall in RUclips's violence policy? 22:10 - In regards to violence levels, how do we help you help us? 23:29 - Are there hidden limits regarding mature content? Why can't we know the demonetization rules? 26:37 - Is the need for creators to cover trendy topics killing content diversity? (28:33 - Matpat points out GT can only do a variety of topics because the rules where different back then. ) 31:01 - Why would a creator choose RUclips over other platforms anymore? (35:41 - Matpat points out that celebrities do get verified easier while Susan insists it's equal.) These answers are a mess, by the way. She is really long winded in a legalese kind of way and clearly came unprepared for a REAL interview. And her stats on new creators, which she very strangely quizzes HIM on, probably include thousands and thousands of children who aren't welcome anymore.
question: "Gamers feel like second-class citizens. Thoughts?" her: "No." question: "Where do creators fit in the youtube ecosystem?" her: "We fixed the verification system. It was good. We broke it. Now we fixed it. It verifies." question: "How will article 17 affect youtube?" her: "We have content ID. It's gonna pay everyone what is owed to them." bruh.
They say a politician is someone who can speak a thousand words and say absolutely nothing. This woman could the president of the Galaxy in a month if she tried, the only competition would be Hideo Kojima.
she sounds just like my boss... always dodgy and a semi politician speech that tries to wrap you around and make you feel your question was answered at the time, but the more you think of it the more you realize it was all just a non explanatory belly rub.
I love the part where he goes "So, if a creator uses the platform, do they have to have 100K subscribers to get verified?" and then Susan goes "Yeah, so-" MatPat: "Ah ha ha!!! Yeah? Is that true?" And then Susan is in a bit of the predicament like 'Shoot, I'm gonna look bad'
She's a CEO, what do you expect? If she gives to firm an answer which she can't back up, then she will be held accountable and it could cost her her job or RUclips a fortune. She has to be that way. That being said, I thought she still gave some decent responses.
@Luke They say a politician is someone who can speak a thousand words and say absolutely nothing. This woman could the president of the Galaxy in a month if she tried, the only competition would be Hideo Kojima.
this is a literal boss battle. But with susan's limited knowledge of gaming, little does she know the boss of the game is always designed to be beatable and the protagonist/player is already equipped with all the tools and stats to beat the boss before the battle even beings.
WOW. I just today found out that some of the craziest videos i managed to flag/report with success are JUST BACK. Holy Minecraft-Creeper, wow. Just wow. How the heck can deleted videos just come back later?!? I WAS SO PROUD i had these evil-doers stopped. And RUclips... bought them back later? Or something? I dont even know what's going on exactly, i only know it's bad and it has to be RUclips, i guess?! Before, i thought RUclips might get too much criticism but now i realize just how broken the System is. Guilty get free and Innocent get striked all the time - but now it reached a new level???? The Good will be reversed!?
I just thought about it and this is what happens -Mat asks a question -Susan answers (dodges is a better word) -Mat stays silent -Susan keeps on talking and says more than she wanted because Mat isn’t talking -Susan drinks from her water bottle -Mat talks She’s using the bottle to not talk
Ironic how she's sitting on the red "youtube colored" couch and Mat's sitting on the orange "demonitization" colored one... But that's just a theory! A conspiracy theory! Thanks for watching.
Emma Brook it is a minecraft cactus yes, because little succulent shouldn’t be alone. :3 momma Square (i know it’s fake) Cactus looking out for baby succulent
That first question fucked her up lol, you can tell she wasn't ready even though he warned her he wasn't gonna softball, but to her credit after breaking the ice a bit she recovered.
@Bandit Baddies well literally speaking, the response given to you just said she didnt answer the question and not "shes talking giberish". Sure it may hint towards that but saying the response was just "shes talking giberish" is taking the response given to you out of context and gives a different meaning. So you should probally rewrite that. Also as the ceo of youtube, she should atleast be able to give a sufficient answer of some sort. Sure there was pressure but the point is,she as the ceo of youtube didnt answer the question which can suggest alot of things.
See how she avoided it too by making it about politicians instead and about "identify theft"....just because people might not be traditional cELeBRiTiEs, doesn't mean there aren't others pretending to be them.
@@ceuti Exactly. I remember when I got the email saying I was going to get unverified, less than a week after I was verified. I've been doing a video a day minimum for 8 years and THAT'S what I woke up to.
I get that. If you can land Billie Ellish you should. That’s an example or a rising tide that will raise all boats. However you shouldn’t make it so hard on your core content. Also I see no reason verification should be so difficult. You should be able to verify an account without a video or view. It takes so little effort
I want this lady to actually answer a question instead of talk about how “great” her platform is. She failed to admit major flaws in the system that Mat asked about.
You don't get to talk about that stuff publicly as the CEO of a company like RUclips. Alphabet is a really important stock in a lot of investors' and fund managers' portfolios. The employees of Alphabet Inc now have a fiduciary duty to do everything that they can to boost that stock price for the investors. She'd possibly be down to discuss these things behind closed doors with signed NDAs in place but she'd have to be a moron to publicly acknowledge that there are ongoing threats to the business and she has to act like RUclips is completely on top of any issues. Sorry, this is how capitalism works right now.
@@dahalofreeek that's not about capitalism. Capitalism is involved but it doesnt change alot of things with admitting mistakes. At least it isnt socialism or communism. That would be infinitely worse.
MatPat: "Can we have the rules on demonetization?" (You know, so we don't get demonetized for random things) Susan: "Videos are complicated...." As Mat Pat says, how can gamers play by the rules if they don't know them? How can they avoid demonetization of they don't know what causes it?
If I were to bet money, it is a machine learning AI with weights that constantly change as youtube pokes and prods at it, and probably has employees that look at a small sample that it accepted and demonized and use those to learn which then cause weights to change. Alot of companies consider the weights of their AI as highly proprietary as well so they likly wouldn't release them anyway.
One of the biggest advancements in many civilizations that propped up the lower class was the ability for all citizens to know the law before this advancement there was a divide that couldn't be passed at all it was revolutionary and I can't remember the exact details because I read about this a very long time ago however with the propagation of laws and the ability for all citizens to read them it allowed society as a whole to advance RUclips now and it's demonetization rules remind me very much of what is essentially feudalistic Europe whatever the highlord's the knights and the nobility (which technically the knights were nobility) it's weird a very clear example in history sure it's way bigger than the RUclips platform however it's still very much applies here with the lower peasants( content creators) being lorded over by the nobility( the advertisers RUclips itself and the celebrities)
She keeps saying "that's why we are here at this summit", let's see if she will be back next year to answer more hard ball questions, to see if she really means it
WOW. I just today found out that some of the craziest videos i managed to flag/report with success are JUST BACK. Holy Minecraft-Creeper, wow. Just wow. How the heck can deleted videos just come back later?!? I WAS SO PROUD i had these evil-doers stopped. And RUclips... bought them back later? Or something? I dont even know what's going on exactly, i only know it's bad and it has to be RUclips, i guess?! Before, i thought RUclips might get too much criticism but now i realize just how broken the System is. Guilty get free and Innocent get striked all the time - but now it reached a new level???? The Good will be reversed!?
MatPat had the best opening question. MatPat: "whats your history with gaming?" Susan: "my kids play games and I sometimes play with them and I see how its importent to them" with that one question the rest of the interview was now colourized. she is someone who does not play games and only sees games as a children activity.
I was also thinking of the way she was trying so hard to word the answer "So, yeah, uhm, so, I watch my kids play them, and uhm, sometimes I play with them, uhm... They play with each other... and... they tell me things" she knows perfectly that she has zero real connection with gaming, but she's trying to squeeze out every single minor, indirect experience she had to avoid admitting that she doesn't know a thing about the industry.
I mean, he said he himself was surprised that Susan's team let him ask "some" of the questions in the first place, hence implying that he had far more aggressive and ousting questions that would further embarrass her.
You can feel a clear difference of interest and perspective during this interview. I sincerely appreciate MatPat for sticking to his guns and asking the questions that creators clearly deserve to have answered. Unfortunately, I've seen this dance too many times before to feel very comfortable about the future for creative minds on this platform.
If that happened that: - Would be impossible to cover up. - Could cause an uprising in a large section of the gaming community, with potential online riots/boycotts. - Could cause any company that wants to successfully be like RUclips to rise in popularity if MatPat agrees to work with said company. - Would give MatPat an easier chance to explain how he feels about RUclips, which wouldn't be beneficial to Susan since MatPat's fanbase is more logical in their information-gathering/decision-making. That's why she basically dug herself a substantial, non-removable grave by letting him set this meeting up since deleting it or forcing him to would make her actions shine the brightest xD
Matpat even threw in the gun violence of fortnite. He could have gone further and mentioned even minecraft has it. Swinging swords and shooting arrows from bows.
Shout out to MatPat for not holding back AT ALL - what a legend, willing to push back against the RUclips overlord herself, brave and necessary, thanks MatPat for going that deep.
He asked a throwaway question first, tries to make small talk in between each question, doesn't scrutinize anything she says (despite the fact that he claims to have researched these issues).... "not holding back AT ALL!!1!" yeah no. He is either bad at giving serious interviews or he pulled a great many punches. Neither option is good.
Lucious the notion that he is “bad” at giving interviews is absurd, he’s better and more fair and not trying to trap her with aggressive or confusing questions than most so called professional interviewers who solely do that as a career. He also had to represent us as a whole, so him being more mean spirited or trying to trick her into screwing up for “revenge” does not equal interview skill, that’s a lack of skill and professionalism. His polite yet pointed questions are what allowed her to answer comfortably for us. How many interviews have you given, or is this from a place of zero authority/experience?
the way she replied felt like how i’d avoid doing my school work and wait to get home to do it so i can take my time understanding, doing, and looking into the problems on the page... but then not do it, procrastinate and promise myself to do it the next day
MatPat was almost completely perfect in the interviewing here. Im surprised he was even allowed to ask a lot of these questions. But Susan dodged EVERY single question just by avoiding the larger issues that MatPat tried to bring up. It was kinda frustrating to watch
Susan when she said "it's great to be here" and "it's an important event" sounds like that friend who didn't really wanna come but it anyway to get you to stop asking
I love that she makes every attempt to look at the audience instead of MatPat, as if she wants to make herself look grand while using their potentially less-focused glares to help dodge MatPat's hard-focused glare.
I feel like mat handled himself really well for this interview and was highly professional. its only disheartening how we see susan dodge questions or just try to brush over them.
He became more confident every time she did because he knew he was proving there was a problem because if there wasnt she wouldnt explain for 5 minuets and awnser a whole different question
@Liam Dysart she tottaly avoided that questions point, he was talking about the EXPOSURE to the masses of yt viewers. She jumped into things the "royal ty courts do for their second class" Thats not talking about why there is a gamer class... And why the gamer class is treated differently than the classes he brought up in his question. Watch his video on the subject. Its a ways back. But not before 2016. That point got parried and she hit him with an akuma lights out ... The interview was over after that... It turned into a p.r. #QueenofRUclips :"We give you bread but here is the way we make the bread"... #Matpat: but i ask why can't we have cake...
"RUclips helps its educational creators" Tell that to the history channel's who are getting demonetised in every video for talking about WW2 or 'controversial' events
And any time a chemistry channel makes anything that sounds even remotely similar to anything even remotely dangerous they get demonized or even removed
@@doctorpurple5173 You made me think about the way I type and speak. I should be simpler and clearer and so should you. Many words can be removed from your comment without losing its meaning.
@@lucasrhan lol 😆 maybe you should just not read my comment if it's too complicated for you, I didn't say anything that was difficult to understand for anybody that is used to reading English
I felt the same way. To be fair tho I'm not clear on if Susan got to prep or not.It kinda sounded like her team got to look over the questions but not her.
its interesting towards the end when matpat was talking about billie eilish's verification and saying celebs and creators are treated differently and was sitting there all fine and realized, oh wait, i should probably deny that and *then* pitched in denying
Matpat: “Why isn’t there a list of what we should and shouldn’t say/do?” *susan proceeds to dance around the question w her voice shaking for like 5 minutes* Matpat: “interesting”
she didnt dodge the question at all, did you even listen ? they know if you swear or not, they know if you talk about "controversial" topic and its up the to advertiser to decide if they want to advertise on such content and she said that policies on virtual violence are coming "Soon" - completely separate from real violence
Takes notes 60-minutes, *THIS* is how you do an interview. Pat hit her hard with questions that were rough, but worded very fairly. He conducted himself with very friendly and inviting body language and didn't make her feel alienated. Fantastic work, Pat. Keep it up.
Exactly this.
Really, MatPat never ceases to amaze me with how smart he can be.
It is sad that a rando on the internet can interview someone better than 90% of the "professionals"
Until he went "AH-HAH!" near the end lol.That was hilarious!
tapewormrage nice
I really appreciate the fact that MatPat didnt go easy because hes talking to the CEO. He said gamer channels feel like second class citizens, Creators arent a priority, etc? Loved the channel and all thats produced, but respect level for MatPat went up a lot!
First
“We looked at the stats on gaming, we act on behalf of advertisers” so when gaming RUclipsrs like Vanoss gets their video demonetized because he cusses in Minecraft. Is she trying to tell us that profanity, virtual gaming is violent for consumers? This is not good news for anyone because MOST BIG GAMES that are out today are centered around violence. Even games like SMASH BROS, Minecraft, fortnite, Legend of Zelda, PLANTS VS ZOMBIES, even CANDY CRUSH (wow you’re destroying candy isn’t that violent), etc. it’s like she either misguided on gaming in general or she’s always been on the notion of “video games cause shootings in the U.S”
Only 2? Wow...
Only 3? Wow...
@@retr0cat866 Only 4? Wow..
I love when mat just goes "hmm" or makes a face whenever she brushes over something, or says something that contradicts the research/experience he has.
I know, especially when he starts laughing becouse he cant believe what he is hearing
Basically Ace Attorney, but youtube lol
TL note: “Hmm” means “You’re not a clown you’re a whole circus!”
Once you hear him go "hmmm" you know he could be a detective (I know thats what he was in escape the night but I'm talking in real life)
@@saechiru6750 OBJECTION! The meme actually goes "You're not a clown, you're THE ENTIRE circus"!!!
She should be a politician, she says so much of what my English teacher calls baseless supposition (BS) or basically saying nothing in about a thousand words
doesn't baseless supposition mean a belief or assumption held with no proof or evidence? i.e; To suppose baselessly
BS eh?
Seems fitting for all the bull shi- she is saying
Being a politician would be a step down
She's most likely speaking so much to run the clock down and/or dance around the question
She should run for president of the country because they dodge questions
I love how whenever she says something that doesn't add up Mat has this look of "Honey don't lie to me. Every topic you've covered, I've covered more thoroughly and more times I can count" which is backed up by the videos he put in the info card. He has held RUclips accountable every step of the way and we love and appreciate him for that
This is what I like about Mat, he doesn’t express his anger with his actions but uses his words and facts to show it.
I support you, Matt.
Oh man, you could really feel how he switched gears when susan started pretty much blaming the viewers saying to matpat "yeah but you do lots of games right?"
That was the one time he intervened during her answers and man did it feel like he was holding himself back hard from crushing her.
*The man spittin straight FACTS*
iota-09 he had to play nice. I mean, she has the power to destroy his career. I could tell he really tried to paint RUclips and Susan in a positive light while still getting the facts, because let’s face it, RUclips isn’t unbiased. He needs to keep them happy; and he more or less did that.
@@amyx231 man it felt so painful yet fun when he mentioned how susan "loss" nett30(or whatever that was called) as the only event of RUclips trying to hold creators on their platform.
Susan might have the power to end his career, but matpat had the power to end RUclips's reputation for good in those 30 minutes if he wanted.
r/mademesmile 😊
That last question was basically confirmation that they care more about celebs than creators.
@Andres Guerra obama mama
sound kinda funny am i right
WOW.
I just today found out that
some of the craziest videos i managed
to flag/report with success are JUST BACK.
Holy Minecraft-Creeper, wow. Just wow.
How the heck can deleted videos just come back later?!?
I WAS SO PROUD i had these evil-doers stopped.
And RUclips... bought them back later? Or something?
I dont even know what's going on exactly, i only know it's bad
and it has to be RUclips, i guess?!
Before, i thought RUclips might get too much criticism
but now i realize just how broken the System is.
Guilty get free and Innocent get striked all the time - but
now it reached a new level???? The Good will be reversed!?
@@slevinchannel7589 are you ok
@@slevinchannel7589 omg you commented on the charity video
Naruto explained. Your awesome. Love your videos
Susan was already regretting her decision of letting matpat speak in literally 3 minutes
Yeah she got super nervous super fast
"Gamers feel like second class citizens here on youtube. What are your thoughts on that?" "My answer would be no."
She was talking to someone who made the entirety of FNAF lore
1000th like
@@MariOmor1way too literally true 😬
MatPat : "I see you looking at the clock hoping that this ticks out faster"
Boi, that was kinda spicy.
*"Ouch"*
time stamp?
darwot - 17:30
Man matpat really read this and laughed you are in a video my dude congrats
Susan: no nO NO
*has a panic attack
They're never letting him back into anything after that
EeveeThe Everything Lmao you’re right but at least he has the respect and support from his fanbase
in all he was fairly soft on her
We will fight for him! We will request him back! We will raise him up! Viva la GAME THEORY! VIVA LA MATPAT!!
"This is something we have actually been working on"
I really hope they do
By the time she finishes explaining sometimes I’ve completely forgotten about the question pat initially asked.
That's a form of dodging questions, it's quite sad actually. She can't answer properly.
@@dasanibrack1687 She doesn't have a real answer, that's why.
Harrison M honestly same lmao
that's how you spot a _good_ politician
I mean i find it insulting that she didn't prepare a proper story or lie preparedthey new the questions he was going to give unless he gave very simplified versions to them to throw them off because if he did *+respect*
All I can say is, MatPat, you would make a really good interrogator.
Ikr
I would Love to see that..! 😂✌️
@Mizu Jaguchi yeah. He’s interrogating his own boss, you need to be careful what you say in that situation
matpat gets information from you: panik
"BUT THATS JUST A THEORY!!!": kalm
Or a lawyer and at the end say “But that’s just a theory, a game theory!”
Matpat: Do you like RUclipsRewind?
Susan: *rewinding matpats neck*
Almost 1000 likes..
Dam that was fast
@@eric.waffles r/cursedcomments
I've seen a lot of interviews like this where the interviewer is afraid to ask hard questions for fear of repercussions. I'm glad that Matt held nothing back; answers are a valuable thing.
You can ask all the questions you want but is an AI cult figurehead puppet going to tell you that they trained bots to hate good content and or anything that is the truth they dont want to hear?
#firesusanwojcicki
Amen to that my friend, amen
The fact that everyone thinks that these questions are "hard hitting" in nature is extremely alarming and telling on the state of our society as a whole.
@@yourmom4976 what would you have like asked
1:55 - What's your history with gaming?
3:00 - Gamers feel like second class citizens on RUclips. What are your thoughts on that?
7:23 - Is RUclips still a platform for creators? Where do creators stand in the RUclips ecosystem?
10:17 - How will article 17 affect creators on RUclips?
17:25 - Where does virtual violence fall in RUclips's violence policy?
22:10 - In regards to violence levels, how do we help you help us?
23:29 - Are there hidden limits regarding mature content? Why can't we know the demonetization rules?
26:37 - Is the need for creators to cover trendy topics killing content diversity?
(28:33 - Matpat points out GT can only do a variety of topics because the rules where different back then. )
31:01 - Why would a creator choose RUclips over other platforms anymore?
(35:41 - Matpat points out that celebrities do get verified easier while Susan insists it's equal.)
Thanks for timestamps
Thanks sir
Here king you dropped this 👑
@@thatgirl4652 lol
Thanks mate you deserve my respect.
Matpat: What is the floor made of?
Susan: We didn't make the walls out of chairs, but the floor was our primary concern. We fixed the floor. The floor is good now.
Matpat: n e a t
This is gold lol
This is painfully accurate she worded her way around the answer and beat around the bush that at the ended on her basically saying to frick off. She and so are her bosses are smart especially in making money as well as deflecting
@@wilwhy7354 more like defecating
@@wilwhy7354 i mean, it's not smart if everyone can see through it. there's a reason all of the videos on her channel are so heavily disliked; no one's being fooled by her.
@@vedantbhard I mean, whether she fooled us or not, the consequences remain the same. There is no one in this earth who can now change the big corps for the better.
If you watch her face, she constantly goes back and forth between the "happy to be interviewed" look and the "you dare question me, mortal?"
In her defence he does talk as if she doesnt know anything. I mean you're gonna undermine someone who's professionally required to be the legal face of the company and they will become hostile to you. Also shes tired and bored
@@meghanachauhan9380 Tired and bored seems to sum up what her and RUclips think of the gaming community and content creators in general.
that was a good meme, rip
Ningen.
The truth right here lol
Today on game theory: Matpat talks to his boss, boss isn’t pleased
and yet still obey boss rule
Roasted
Soul Gin 999 likes ummmm
Lmao
@PlanetNerdsTv i did.
ngl, INCREDIBLY glad youtube gave this opportunity to matpat, he's probably one of the most if not the most qualified person to be asking these sort of questions that actually affect so many people
I agree. I'm glad he's representing the community
Defenitly agree, but what is it worth if she doesnt actually answer the questions
I strongly agree, and it's so interesting to see that he's acting like he usually does, this really shows lots about how he acts, he asks what he needs to and wants to, and makes it stay real and at the same time, reaching for heights
Kealoha 14 fax
@@nobody--so-far I don't think the point of setting up this interview was to give answers. I see it as more of an attempt at open (though unaffective) communication, and a step in the right direction. If people like matpat (or you or me) keep speaking up about these problems, I think we'll eventually get our real answers.
30+ minute interview, over a dozen questions and she answered NONE OF THEM! Quite impressive!
I know, right? There should be an award for "Most Questions Avoided in 38 Minutes"
@@imkeybored1238 Yeah, pretty sure some politicians over here in Canada would win that unfortunately. But she comes pretty close!
@@amyness3452 Yeah, pretty sure some politicians here in all latin america would win that unfortunately.But those are pretty close!
@@spectrite4533 With a bit of training however, she could be a master at dodging questions!
30+ minutes over a dozen question and answer yet your still stupid :( quite sad, I pity you.
Susan is almost always speaking to the audience, like she’s advertising instead of giving a straight answer
Had to click 3 times to give a like. Hmmmmmmmm....
She'd make a fine politician. And you should be terrified of that reality.
As soon as she started answering I knew this was gonna be a mess
@@liwendiamond9223 She'd be aweful, her talking without saying anything and trying to sound official made this interview very hard to watch, she was obviously trying to get her pre interview notes into her answers which made a lot of her answers sound very incoherent.
Well yes,true,
But I also think she was kind of giving half-assed answers,or more clearly incoherent answers.
I do not appreciate her going off topic in relation to a question.
"gamers feel like second class citizens, thoughts ?"
*"no"*
aspen ahmed LMAO literally
Same profile pic
100000 subs two videos Challenge 2 intellectuals then. Nice
I felt that
Gamers rise up.
“It’s almost like they’re trying to hide it, go figure”
The SHADE, you love to see it
Timestamp?
You called
The shaaade of it all...
Can someone give context? Shade on article 17 or RUclips? And why?
@@GohgoDerp I've never been so confused
She sounds like me explaining to my parents why I’m failing my classes
Lemme give you a script so its easier:
I lack knowledge and I have terrible memory
Literately the most relatable comment I’ve ever seen
so true, the roundabout way of not really answering the questions
Come on
We have given them better answers than this
Why is this so true?
I actually really appreciate Mat's questions that he asked! He was very respectful and he asked the hard hitting questions but he did it is a nice, gentle, but firm! Great job Mat!
@@pississippian i know right
Susan before the interview
“Why is boss music playing?”
I love it
Lmao
She wouldn't even know what boss music is.
" Where'd all these health packs come from?"
*starts raving to the Sword and Shield Gym Battle theme a la Jim Sterling*
You’ve heard of “we live in a society”
now get ready for
“we have a platform”
Pikachu: You're all a bunch of KNOCKOFFS!
Knockoffs: *We live on a platform...*
Amen sister
Huh?
in conclusion we like money - youtube
"RUclips is a company"
She’s not giving answers, she’s dodging questions.
Like a Real CEO
She's just like a politician
well played on her part i guess
@@lajbartek360 She should be president
Agreed
"We aren't invited to the gala."
"You want to go to the gala?"
"... Yes"
I expect to see Matt at the Gala now.
I mean why wouldn’t gamers be invited to the gala I mean cmon RUclips
I love the way he replied to Susan's response because her comment could have easily distracted the question away from the actual issue at hand
im unfamiliar with the gala, can someone explain it to me? or were they talking about the met gala.
@@mefaun Celebration of youtubers, more or less. Gamers often aren't invited, despite the fact that they make up lot of the creators of the platform.
"They're not invited to the met gala like vloggers are"
"do you wanna go to the met gala?"
"....yes"
Tristan Shelley this really got me because she laughed like her question was ridiculous, she doesn’t understand the gaming community at all
Look I don't like stuff like that that, but the Met Gala IS THE *MET GALA.*
THE GREAT GALLOPING GALA!?!?!?
@@HayabusaRyuu IKR I WAS THINKING THAAAAAT HAH
Bold of her to assume gamers didn't want to go to the met gala
Every time she mentions ‘stats’ or ‘science’ he looks so hopeful and excited that she’s actually going to answer the question this time
But her politician mode is too powerful. Answers are too difficult to decipher.
Mat pat asking those hard hitting questions and she putting on her even stronger politician mask
@Joe L'Horri that's what politicians do
Anyone notice the Minecraft cactus in the background
Please stop writing comments criticizing Susan, I can’t like all of them.
Omg are you matpat on a second account?
@@aryank8662 he might be
@@peperman9182 fr yeah
@@aryank8662 Omg hi matpat
Damn
She literally didn’t want to admit how they are segregating gaming away from the rest of youtube
Yup. Pewds is confined to trending for gaming on content totally unrelated to gaming
She was being very dodgy she didn’t answer the answer directly she brought up things that weren’t exactly tied to the conversation and a lot of what she said were bs it was partly her fault also the team she works with cause gamers are still being attacked so now other gaming platforms are more useful for me rather than RUclips like Logan Paul is still making videos he’s still making money and Jake Paul’s channel is still up and other RUclipsrs who have negative impact on young viewers who target children and they aren’t stopped but gamers we have to label videos are either child friendly or not and strict rules are pushed much more on us and I feel that RUclips abandoned us quite a long while ago to let so many accounts on this channel is an issue
Of course she didn't, that would look bad.
RUclips is aiming for a larger general audience and trying not to segregate the core as much as possible.
The deal is convince, they can ignore the base to indulge everything else and are so big aka pre-installed on iso, android, Google devices they can easily get away with it because what are you going to do? Download another non pre-installed app like twitch and sacrifice 70+%of your viewers? If so we will just aquire it and squash the issue when it's profitable for us.
I mean she's lucky the focus was mainly on gaming theres a slew of things non gaming related that you could question them hard about
Matpat: here’s a problem
Susan: yes that is a problem
Matpat: are you going to fix it
Susan: mmmm no... no i don’t think I will
Matpat: mmmm interesting
Susan: ok
MatPat: ok
Susan: no we wont fix that
MatPat: ok boomer
Therulerkai but that’s just a theory....
Literally the entire interview:
Fact
@@lolrofl9920 imagine matpat actually saying that.
Susan: *sees this*
Matpat: *on couch* Sorry guys I'm leaving youtube.
She is so good at saying nothing and talking in circles
trying to donceal information and hve to really honey coat or get straight to buisness without being too confronting
Aren't most Women like that? That's one of their classic traits. Never takes responsibility, never wants accountability. Only benefits and entitlements.
@@crimefighter5531 I mean...as the woman who said that I strongly disagree 👍
Crime Fighter Karen’s, not Women
Crime Fighter just karens
I'm suprised youtube themselves still haven't taken this down.
They would but if they did they would probably get a bunch of ‘attention’ for doing it
Yeah
if they did they’d just prove matpat right
Probably cause they liked her answers
They did this as a PR stunt, they ain't taking it down.
Mat: makes a passive aggressive joke
Susan: Chuckles uncomfortably
Is it bad that I empathize with her due to her awkwardness?
It's a little sad. She obviously wasn't prepared for matt to ask these types of questions
"We are doing lots of things"
Basically the whole interview
😁
I know right... I listened this interview unbiased and it just sounded like she was rambling, dancing around the topic and continuously implying how they try to enhance the experience of audience and the creators.
It true
Matt Pat: “What’s considered as violence?”
Susan: Clouds colliding
🤣
Clouds colliding?
Im trying to understand what you mean by clouds colliding
-Ermit the Hermit entered the chat
Thank you, for educating people!
Matpat really knows how to make someone uncomfortable by making them comfortable.
His opening question was brilliant to set the stage of what was to come. I'd hate to say he "left a trap", but it was very well executed to get all his pieces in place so to speak.
Timestamps for the questions Matpat asks if you're interested:
1:55 - What's your history with gaming?
3:00 - Gamers feel like second class citizens on RUclips. What are your thoughts on that?
7:23 - Is RUclips still a platform for creators? Where do creators stand in the RUclips ecosystem?
10:17 - How will article 17 affect creators on RUclips?
17:25 - Where does virtual violence fall in RUclips's violence policy?
22:10 - In regards to violence levels, how do we help you help us?
23:29 - Are there hidden limits regarding mature content? Why can't we know the demonetization rules?
26:37 - Is the need for creators to cover trendy topics killing content diversity?
(28:33 - Matpat points out GT can only do a variety of topics because the rules where different back then. )
31:01 - Why would a creator choose RUclips over other platforms anymore?
(35:41 - Matpat points out that celebrities do get verified easier while Susan insists it's equal.)
These answers are a mess, by the way. She is really long winded in a legalese kind of way and clearly came unprepared for a REAL interview. And her stats on new creators, which she very strangely quizzes HIM on, probably include thousands and thousands of children who aren't welcome anymore.
Thank you m8
Ur amazing
Bless your soul🤧
She spends so much time dodging th questions that we practically needed this
Love you
question: "Gamers feel like second-class citizens. Thoughts?"
her: "No."
question: "Where do creators fit in the youtube ecosystem?"
her: "We fixed the verification system. It was good. We broke it. Now we fixed it. It verifies."
question: "How will article 17 affect youtube?"
her: "We have content ID. It's gonna pay everyone what is owed to them."
bruh.
They say a politician is someone who can speak a thousand words and say absolutely nothing. This woman could the president of the Galaxy in a month if she tried, the only competition would be Hideo Kojima.
@@GoogleRuinsAnythingItTouches ARE YOU CRITISIZING KOJIMA SENPAI ? ( if i wasn't on tablet, i would have made this writing glitched
@@jeanremi8384 how
@@fredthespear4923 what do u mean
I agree but the one thing you got wrong is the fact that you think that deserves a "bruh"...
*THAT DESERVES A 🅱️RUH*
Matt: *asks question*
Susan: *dodges question*
Matt: *repeats question*
Susan: hol’ up
MATT!
He should have ask souswasoski how to spill her name
This is not how this is supposed to go good sir
she sounds just like my boss... always dodgy and a semi politician speech that tries to wrap you around and make you feel your question was answered at the time, but the more you think of it the more you realize it was all just a non explanatory belly rub.
What time lapse was that
I love the part where he goes
"So, if a creator uses the platform, do they have to have 100K subscribers to get verified?"
and then Susan goes "Yeah, so-"
MatPat: "Ah ha ha!!! Yeah? Is that true?"
And then Susan is in a bit of the predicament like 'Shoot, I'm gonna look bad'
It's so funny because now food theory has over 2.5 million subs and still isn't verified. Revenge?
@@PMow-gm4hz You're right! I never really noticed that until now-
36:09
@@PMow-gm4hz revenge of the game theory sith!
Never before had I seen so many different ways to say nothing.
Lmao
Totally agree!
She's a CEO, what do you expect? If she gives to firm an answer which she can't back up, then she will be held accountable and it could cost her her job or RUclips a fortune. She has to be that way. That being said, I thought she still gave some decent responses.
@@Draidis Still, she said nothing
@Luke
They say a politician is someone who can speak a thousand words and say absolutely nothing. This woman could the president of the Galaxy in a month if she tried, the only competition would be Hideo Kojima.
I like how literally every time Matt asked Susan a question she gave the most indirect and neutral answer she could come up with
True
I'm pretty sure that she was the most politician-like non-politition I've ever listened too, and it kinda ticked me off a bit
@@jblakeplays2541 same
JBlake plays i literally thought the same thing
She spends her time kneeling in front of execs and politicians - that's literally all they want to hear. Can't really blame her for that conditioning.
this is a literal boss battle. But with susan's limited knowledge of gaming, little does she know the boss of the game is always designed to be beatable and the protagonist/player is already equipped with all the tools and stats to beat the boss before the battle even beings.
Unfortunately I cannot heart react this comment
Yeah, it's basically pheonix wright
Clearly one has not played Dark Souls
@@Noah-gv6zj dark souls ain't even a game its depression and anxiety on a screen
This comment is poetic
Ironic how she’s talking about RUclips trying to be more transparent to be less transparent
Is she trained in ballet, because the way she danced around those questions was astonishing
Cool Cool: What am amazing metaphors! Way to use your schooling!
@@katievoss1681 ok boomer
Cool Cool *Apply water to burn*
#firesusanwojcicki
@@katievoss1681 LMAFOOO
I love how MatPat cracked a big smile the moment she dropped the word “science”
lol same xD.. can u give timeline plz I'm too lazy to try and find it lol if not it's fine xD
Same with me
@@DaDerpyCarrot 33:49
@@cz3002 33:49
@Abdalla Kordeir 33:49 , My friend
I feel like she was like "if I say gamers and gaming enough it'll sound like I care and did research"
Pretty much
But I’ll forget what Minecraft is
I'll keep talking in a loop to avoid him and his questions
WOW.
I just today found out that
some of the craziest videos i managed
to flag/report with success are JUST BACK.
Holy Minecraft-Creeper, wow. Just wow.
How the heck can deleted videos just come back later?!?
I WAS SO PROUD i had these evil-doers stopped.
And RUclips... bought them back later? Or something?
I dont even know what's going on exactly, i only know it's bad
and it has to be RUclips, i guess?!
Before, i thought RUclips might get too much criticism
but now i realize just how broken the System is.
Guilty get free and Innocent get striked all the time - but
now it reached a new level???? The Good will be reversed!?
Mats questions were so hot she kept taking a sip from that tiny water bottle
I just thought about it and this is what happens
-Mat asks a question
-Susan answers (dodges is a better word)
-Mat stays silent
-Susan keeps on talking and says more than she wanted because Mat isn’t talking
-Susan drinks from her water bottle
-Mat talks
She’s using the bottle to not talk
Ironic how she's sitting on the red "youtube colored" couch and Mat's sitting on the orange "demonitization" colored one... But that's just a theory! A conspiracy theory! Thanks for watching.
UsagiTheRabbit and the succulent is sitting on the green mine... minecraft? castus like the monetisation logo, all hail succulent!
Emma Brook it is a minecraft cactus yes, because little succulent shouldn’t be alone. :3 momma Square (i know it’s fake) Cactus looking out for baby succulent
Eryk Steele I was making fun of Susan when she didn’t even know what Minecraft was
The fact that the monetization side is a cactus... it's a pain to even hold it for a while
UsagiTheRabbit
WOW
The only game she’s good at is dodging questions.
Ainsley Ross ohhh woah burn🔥danggg chill Ainsley but so true though😂
like every ceo
Same with all other RUclips interviews, they all avoid questions and say the same things in different ways
Ainsley Ross I’d say she actually gave some pretty good answers having in mind how vage the questions were
It's a trick, if you ever don't want to answer a question just change the subject etc.
That first question fucked her up lol, you can tell she wasn't ready even though he warned her he wasn't gonna softball, but to her credit after breaking the ice a bit she recovered.
E
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Sports
Did you watch the video or not? Are you ok are you sure you’re not mentally disable.
19:18 “RUclips as a platform acts on behalf of its advertisers.” Pretty much sums up the entire interview.
If it werent for the advertisers we would have to subscribe to use youtube
Matt Pat: So why do you segregate youtube gaming?
Susan: no.
Thank you Susan, very cool
@Bandit Baddies The point was that she didn't answer the question 🤦
@Bandit Baddies well literally speaking, the response given to you just said she didnt answer the question and not "shes talking giberish". Sure it may hint towards that but saying the response was just "shes talking giberish" is taking the response given to you out of context and gives a different meaning. So you should probally rewrite that. Also as the ceo of youtube, she should atleast be able to give a sufficient answer of some sort. Sure there was pressure but the point is,she as the ceo of youtube didnt answer the question which can suggest alot of things.
Idk what the guy said that everyone is referring to
But it seems he has deleted his comment
@@kazaha8669 nah nobody deleted their comment, the bandit guy just said that talking about the original comment
I love that he called out the fact that celebrities would for sure get instantly verified even if they don't have 100K subscribers yet
then you can see million subscriber channels unverified
See how she avoided it too by making it about politicians instead and about "identify theft"....just because people might not be traditional cELeBRiTiEs, doesn't mean there aren't others pretending to be them.
Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! Looking forward to your new video at 2:00 pm bro
@@ceuti Exactly. I remember when I got the email saying I was going to get unverified, less than a week after I was verified. I've been doing a video a day minimum for 8 years and THAT'S what I woke up to.
I get that. If you can land Billie Ellish you should. That’s an example or a rising tide that will raise all boats. However you shouldn’t make it so hard on your core content. Also I see no reason verification should be so difficult. You should be able to verify an account without a video or view. It takes so little effort
I want this lady to actually answer a question instead of talk about how “great” her platform is. She failed to admit major flaws in the system that Mat asked about.
Yeah susan is pretty trash
You don't get to talk about that stuff publicly as the CEO of a company like RUclips. Alphabet is a really important stock in a lot of investors' and fund managers' portfolios. The employees of Alphabet Inc now have a fiduciary duty to do everything that they can to boost that stock price for the investors.
She'd possibly be down to discuss these things behind closed doors with signed NDAs in place but she'd have to be a moron to publicly acknowledge that there are ongoing threats to the business and she has to act like RUclips is completely on top of any issues.
Sorry, this is how capitalism works right now.
@SHY SHY there is no point of admitting a mistake
@@dahalofreeek that's not about capitalism. Capitalism is involved but it doesnt change alot of things with admitting mistakes. At least it isnt socialism or communism. That would be infinitely worse.
dahalofreeek Um the sonic animators admitted it why can’t Karen (I mean Susan whoops)
MattPat: So what did you eat for breakfast?
Susan: Well, we believe that it's unfair to judge...
MatPat: "Can we have the rules on demonetization?" (You know, so we don't get demonetized for random things)
Susan: "Videos are complicated...."
As Mat Pat says, how can gamers play by the rules if they don't know them? How can they avoid demonetization of they don't know what causes it?
Someone actually figured out the title words to insta demonetise a video.
If I were to bet money, it is a machine learning AI with weights that constantly change as youtube pokes and prods at it, and probably has employees that look at a small sample that it accepted and demonized and use those to learn which then cause weights to change. Alot of companies consider the weights of their AI as highly proprietary as well so they likly wouldn't release them anyway.
One of the biggest advancements in many civilizations that propped up the lower class was the ability for all citizens to know the law before this advancement there was a divide that couldn't be passed at all it was revolutionary and I can't remember the exact details because I read about this a very long time ago however with the propagation of laws and the ability for all citizens to read them it allowed society as a whole to advance RUclips now and it's demonetization rules remind me very much of what is essentially feudalistic Europe whatever the highlord's the knights and the nobility (which technically the knights were nobility) it's weird a very clear example in history sure it's way bigger than the RUclips platform however it's still very much applies here with the lower peasants( content creators) being lorded over by the nobility( the advertisers RUclips itself and the celebrities)
Maripili López look up nerdcitys video on this matter!
HoppyHob -DEMONIZE-
She keeps saying "that's why we are here at this summit", let's see if she will be back next year to answer more hard ball questions, to see if she really means it
nope. Also I am from the future
@@atomicpuppyyt1934 I'm from even more future, yeah still no 🤣
Summary: Pat roasts Susan with an actual interview and she responds with the words "um" and "and" for nonsensical ramblings as answers
WOW.
I just today found out that
some of the craziest videos i managed
to flag/report with success are JUST BACK.
Holy Minecraft-Creeper, wow. Just wow.
How the heck can deleted videos just come back later?!?
I WAS SO PROUD i had these evil-doers stopped.
And RUclips... bought them back later? Or something?
I dont even know what's going on exactly, i only know it's bad
and it has to be RUclips, i guess?!
Before, i thought RUclips might get too much criticism
but now i realize just how broken the System is.
Guilty get free and Innocent get striked all the time - but
now it reached a new level???? The Good will be reversed!?
@Maddox Spangler They’re just spamming this everywhere
Oh took political lessons from Biden did she? 😂
@@slevinchannel7589 My dude, please don't spam it.
At least she didn’t stutter like a pig when Matt was proven wrong. There was no roast just stupid comments that lowlifes like you keep writing.
17:27 timestamp for people who wanna see susan getting roasted by matpat after looking at the clock
You can ask me as many questions as you want mat pat next time YOU FOOL YOU SHALL SUFFER
Matpat: "What's considered violence"
Susan: "Yes"
"Well yes... but actually no."
Just replace Yes with Derp there and things should be fine.
Did you just say yes that s very violent
Yes
I love how nervous she gets when mat calls out her looking at the clock (in a nice way)
XD oh HE KNOWS
When
Omg yah. When I saw that I burst out laughing!
Katie Voss but when though?
17:25
MatPat had the best opening question.
MatPat: "whats your history with gaming?"
Susan: "my kids play games and I sometimes play with them and I see how its importent to them"
with that one question the rest of the interview was now colourized. she is someone who does not play games and only sees games as a children activity.
Yeah. And she clearly does look down on gamers.
Such a smart way to start the interview is with her firsthand experience.
Smit Shilpatul it’s non-american spelling. We spell normal words with ou instead of just o. Example: colour, odour
I was also thinking of the way she was trying so hard to word the answer
"So, yeah, uhm, so, I watch my kids play them, and uhm, sometimes I play with them, uhm... They play with each other... and... they tell me things" she knows perfectly that she has zero real connection with gaming, but she's trying to squeeze out every single minor, indirect experience she had to avoid admitting that she doesn't know a thing about the industry.
I also like the fact that she doesn't even mention a single game that she "played" with her kids
MatPat was probably trying really hard not to fully go off on her every time she dodged a question
I mean, he said he himself was surprised that Susan's team let him ask "some" of the questions in the first place, hence implying that he had far more aggressive and ousting questions that would further embarrass her.
“I play games sometimes with my children”
Playing games with children: “so children ready to play some monopoly?”
Thank you. Thank you so much. That is too perfect.
69th like. *NICE*
I love that you said children instead of kids
Probably with real bill's
Monopoly gamer
You can feel a clear difference of interest and perspective during this interview. I sincerely appreciate MatPat for sticking to his guns and asking the questions that creators clearly deserve to have answered. Unfortunately, I've seen this dance too many times before to feel very comfortable about the future for creative minds on this platform.
exactly!
Her answers are kinda all just like: Well actually, no
She just couldn’t own up to RUclips’s mistakes
Well no but actually yes
@@pixelhavoc4950 well no but actually yes but no but actually yes.
She sounds like a politician
Well yes but actually noooo
You know what the worst part is, he CAN'T directly call her out on everything cause she could, AND WILL, have his channel DELETED
she doesn’t want this to be spread that’s why
@@theabominator2152 #FIRESUSAN
If that happened that:
- Would be impossible to cover up.
- Could cause an uprising in a large section of the gaming community, with potential online riots/boycotts.
- Could cause any company that wants to successfully be like RUclips to rise in popularity if MatPat agrees to work with said company.
- Would give MatPat an easier chance to explain how he feels about RUclips, which wouldn't be beneficial to Susan since MatPat's fanbase is more logical in their information-gathering/decision-making.
That's why she basically dug herself a substantial, non-removable grave by letting him set this meeting up since deleting it or forcing him to would make her actions shine the brightest xD
@@thelordofthelostbraincells Hello There
@@theabominator2152 oh hey again
Matpat: “so what are your opinions on that?”
Susan: “no”
Elise Barry underrated comment
Trsnslations:
MY opinion is no, but my corporation's opinion is yes.
OR
YOUR opinion is no, so I'll say my opinion is no.
Wait where was that?
I think they edited out a question before she said that but I still thought that was funny
CS Johnson 4:25 - 4:49
Mat: You gonna fix any problems?
Susan: Yesn’t
Ynet
@JUAN CRUZ you beat me to it. Lol
Procrastinate
i spat out my tea oml
yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no but...
Mat Pat: "What's considered violence?"
Susan: **confusion 100**
ruclips.net/video/BXnLams68lE/видео.html new theory?
_BlaDe mIx_ *visible confusion
Could you give a timestamp please. I'm too lazy. Lol.
Matpat even threw in the gun violence of fortnite. He could have gone further and mentioned even minecraft has it. Swinging swords and shooting arrows from bows.
Matpat used confuse: It was super effective!
As soon matpat said “I’m glad you Segway to the big issues “ her face changed
Can you guve me a time stap i means shes just blah blah blah obuos lie
@@T_K82 02:50
The way Susan is talking about it like, when she says, “ with content creators (pause) and gamers. It feels like she’s intentionally separating it
Remember when this channel was about if Mario was a communist , it’s really nice to see matpat doing well
He is a commie.
@@theaaron1844 you say that as if it's a bad thing...
@@SonsOfLorgar 😂
Mario will lead the revolution
I think you mean **Comrade** Mario shall lead the glorious revolution against the RUclips bourgeoisie
Shout out to MatPat for not holding back AT ALL - what a legend, willing to push back against the RUclips overlord herself, brave and necessary, thanks MatPat for going that deep.
It was like the parry this you Demonatized causal meme for 36 minutes
He asked a throwaway question first, tries to make small talk in between each question, doesn't scrutinize anything she says (despite the fact that he claims to have researched these issues).... "not holding back AT ALL!!1!" yeah no.
He is either bad at giving serious interviews or he pulled a great many punches. Neither option is good.
Lucious the notion that he is “bad” at giving interviews is absurd, he’s better and more fair and not trying to trap her with aggressive or confusing questions than most so called professional interviewers who solely do that as a career. He also had to represent us as a whole, so him being more mean spirited or trying to trick her into screwing up for “revenge” does not equal interview skill, that’s a lack of skill and professionalism. His polite yet pointed questions are what allowed her to answer comfortably for us. How many interviews have you given, or is this from a place of zero authority/experience?
*Mat:* We feel like second class citizens- *Susan:* Will you shut up if I invite you to the Met Gala?
the way she replied felt like how i’d avoid doing my school work and wait to get home to do it so i can take my time understanding, doing, and looking into the problems on the page... but then not do it, procrastinate and promise myself to do it the next day
MatPat was almost completely perfect in the interviewing here. Im surprised he was even allowed to ask a lot of these questions. But Susan dodged EVERY single question just by avoiding the larger issues that MatPat tried to bring up. It was kinda frustrating to watch
I agree. Frustrating is a bit of an understatement. Enraging is my thought
"Why should we game on RUclips?"
"Um, well, uh... We have a platform..."
idontcaroline kreecraft ?
Cus you can play Fort......Forknife?
Susan when she said "it's great to be here" and "it's an important event" sounds like that friend who didn't really wanna come but it anyway to get you to stop asking
Mat pat just doesn't look angry, he just disappointed at her
Matpat- "I'm not mad, just disappointed"
RUclips- 😥
Lol that sounds like what my dad before he left to get milk....
He’ll probably be home soon..
@@treelynx5487 Your dad says hi
@@JeanneHamada
🦁
I am glad we have educated individuals.
@@treelynx5487
Oh *SNAP*
When the smartest kid in class calls out the teacher
MatPat it definitely the whole class allowing the teacher to continue their boring story to waste time...
Thats me with the english teacher (im portuguese) and i litteraly have better pronunciaton than her
Thats me in french
Duncan McLeod UNDERRATED COMMENT OMG
@@iitsmeromii ikr😂
I love matpat and that he tries to help this community in any way he can even though he doesn't personally know all of them
I love this channel too
But i think im not the only one thinking this
We are heading into the dark ages of RUclips
@@theconductoresplin8092 Buddy...we already were when they sided with Google.
@@Flashguy4826
That was the beginning of the end
@@theconductoresplin8092 Exactly.
I love that she makes every attempt to look at the audience instead of MatPat, as if she wants to make herself look grand while using their potentially less-focused glares to help dodge MatPat's hard-focused glare.
I feel like mat handled himself really well for this interview and was highly professional. its only disheartening how we see susan dodge questions or just try to brush over them.
He became more confident every time she did because he knew he was proving there was a problem because if there wasnt she wouldnt explain for 5 minuets and awnser a whole different question
Susan: *mentions the word "science"*
MatPat: *tries his best not to smile*
Matpat: you fell into a classic Blunder!
Time stamp plz
Parkito 33:45
Matt pat: omae wo Mou shindeiru
@@kroh7742 n a n i ? ? ?
“How do u respond to gamers feeling like a 2nd class citizen on RUclips”
Susan: THATS JUST A THEORY
A GAME THEORY
thx for watching
@Liam Dysart she tottaly avoided that questions point, he was talking about the EXPOSURE to the masses of yt viewers. She jumped into things the "royal ty courts do for their second class"
Thats not talking about why there is a gamer class... And why the gamer class is treated differently than the classes he brought up in his question.
Watch his video on the subject. Its a ways back. But not before 2016.
That point got parried and she hit him with an akuma lights out ... The interview was over after that... It turned into a p.r.
#QueenofRUclips :"We give you bread but here is the way we make the bread"...
#Matpat: but i ask why can't we have cake...
99999/10
aaaaaaand CUT !
Who get paid millions of dollars
33:45 it's so funny to me to see matpat trying his hardest not to laugh at the non-sense susan just said
She's literally like Neo dodging bullets in the matrix with these questions.
It's actually impressive
Neo wishes he could doge this good
@@Bailey_Dreamfoot ahaha
its cos shes a psycopath
BananaKingHaze That’s why she’s got the job
cowman mancow lets get Shane Dawson onto this
"RUclips helps its educational creators"
Tell that to the history channel's who are getting demonetised in every video for talking about WW2 or 'controversial' events
And any time a chemistry channel makes anything that sounds even remotely similar to anything even remotely dangerous they get demonized or even removed
@@doctorpurple5173 You made me think about the way I type and speak. I should be simpler and clearer and so should you. Many words can be removed from your comment without losing its meaning.
Exactly
@@lucasrhan lol 😆 maybe you should just not read my comment if it's too complicated for you, I didn't say anything that was difficult to understand for anybody that is used to reading English
@@doctorpurple5173 i had to read your comment twice. Sorry
Susan: “You can ask as many questions as you want!”
Also Susan: Stalls for 30 minutes*
@@goodlandschugs2727 because she didnt want to seem like she was stalling
kungmee yeah because that makes sense
😂
I felt the same way.
To be fair tho
I'm not clear on if Susan got to prep or not.It kinda sounded like her team got to look over the questions but not her.
@@FMFF_ I don't believe Susan knew what Matpat was going to ask, this was legit her going in "blind" I believe
its interesting towards the end when matpat was talking about billie eilish's verification and saying celebs and creators are treated differently and was sitting there all fine and realized, oh wait, i should probably deny that and *then* pitched in denying
Matpat just broke her "deflect deflect" pattern with that last one.
Their team are sure "looking into" a lot of things but never actually acting upon anything they do find
Yup I and celebrities get Insta verification even tho you know were treated the same.
Matpat: “Why isn’t there a list of what we should and shouldn’t say/do?”
*susan proceeds to dance around the question w her voice shaking for like 5 minutes*
Matpat: “interesting”
That had me facepalm.
The main reason is they do something that youtube said they can do and then get sued by some company they can sue RUclips for a pretty penny
she didnt dodge the question at all, did you even listen ?
they know if you swear or not, they know if you talk about "controversial" topic
and its up the to advertiser to decide if they want to advertise on such content
and she said that policies on virtual violence are coming "Soon" - completely separate from real violence
@@JetBen555 ......its a joke...calm down bro
A question that all of RUclips would like to know so we can abide by the platform rules.
MatPat:”how will article 17 affect RUclips?”
Susan:*starts talking about paying creators back*