New 2024 Sailing TECH - Motors, Props, Outboards, Rigging, Sails.
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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A cheeky break from building vans and boats to share with you some of the innovations and simply cool gear for sailors from the worlds largest show at the biggest boat show going; BOOT Dusseldorf!
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I have no idea how you guys don't yet have 250K subs. It's unfair.
Oh man, help us get there! So so hard this RUclips game! Still, we’re creeping up slowly thanks to people like yourself? Cheers to that! 👊😀
@@SailHubHave faith 28K subs in two years is quite respectable - for a ‘minority interest’ channel.😉⛵️ If you were doing nail painting or squeezing pimples you would be well over a 100K.🤣
@normanboyes4983 thanks Norman! Much appreciated 👍👊
You just picked up another full time sailing subscriber. Great content!
The reefing hook is clever and practical. Beyond it's reducing compression on the gooseneck, and weight aloft, but also from a reducing fatigue on the crew point of view. So then if one has three reefing points, one needs three reefing hooks? Am I seeing the correctly? Thanks for the cool vid!
Hi, yup, you got the reefing hooks right!
Thanks for the compliment. Hope to see you in the next one 👍
Thank you for publishing this, lots of interesting stuff. I realise there was a lot to present and get through in what was a short video. May I suggest you are bit more ‘searching’ with the technical bods when it comes to these high capacity generator systems and quiz them on the normal operating temp of the generator at maximum rated output, how output is regulated to prevent a burn out situation, what additional cooling is required (especially that 15KW monster). I am always very sceptical of brochure marketing hype (retired marine engineer) .Keep up the good work.😀👍⛵️
Sure I can ask those questions for you. In general for the large motors and the likes are measured as constant output (I.e 100% duty cycle) that given, the actual peak performance is usually way higher but are limited for saftey. So there’s no issue usually. Although, they are often water cooled which to be fair I’ve not talked about.
We will take that on board and improve for next time.
Cheers for you support too, it’s really cool if you! Thanks, Chris and Jenni 👍
I was there for an all week and did not see most of that amazing equipment! 😅
Hey Nuno! 😂 it’s no wonder the show is massive! Thanks for your comment, we are stoked we can highlight some of this cool kit for you! Not all of them are even new but definitely some gems that people may not have known about that we were keen to share 🤟🏼
Love your work and reporting..
Cheers Dirk, really appreciate that, next years gonna be a blast!
@SailingLaVagabond good explanation and demonstration of your Karver reefing hook system and its workings and advantages.
I didn’t know those guys were using the system, will have to have a nosey 👍
@@SailHub not sure if it's that exact system, but it looked very similar. In the videos right after launch they had some complaints about it and not knowing when it was engaged etc. looked like just a lack of understanding of the system and how it's supposed to operate coming from other reefing control systems.
Ah cool, thanks for that, I’m gonna take a look for the video on it 👍
Definitely worth looking into
Woohoo glad you found some interesting stuff 😜 that’s what it’s all about 👊🏼
Electric Hybrid - The Wynn's HH44 has a working hybrid electric add-on with - working regen. Works great/game-changer by reports, but it adds much to propeller complexity and efficiency in diesel, electric, and regen modes. One solution for everything is tough - but promising at the same time - if they can work out the perfect propeller.
The Hook - I'm recalling that the hook system failed for La Vagabond because the weight of wind on their sheet was so great they couldn't retreive the hook (pull the hook out again)
Sure, the wynns have a system that’s working for them. Our goal is to make monohull our build self sufficient… Thats going to be a mission for sure.
As for the hook, I’m really not so sure how they could struggle so much. A large number of imocas, class 40’s etc manage it short handed all the time? I imagine as with most things on boats you’ve got to figure it out. Mind you, it’s an expensive thing to figure out, I like the idea sonI think I am going to make something similar and give them a try before we buy.
Great selection of interesting products. Awesome!
Hey 👋🏼 Great to hear you found them interesting!! Which was your fave? I think for us it’s either the Karver reefing hooks (secret weapons) or the Integral! Thanks for your comment too!! Always appreciated!
@@SailHubI’m studying Electrical Engineering so I liked Integral and Remigo as the future is really interesting for electric propulsion, especially on sailing yachts.
@Chrish- well, one things for sure here, you will probably enjoy the boat build we have started, that’s should be right up your street!
For the electric outboards, do they have a XT60 solar dc input? Seems like when your dingy isn’t in use and sitting out in the sun, having one of those folding solar panel setups topping it off would be awesome! I have a panel which puts out 125 watts and holds up to the size of a briefcase. Thanks for all the content!
Hey, cheers!
A lot of the outboards can take solar directly, it’s usually their own connector though. Mind you, it’s best to check before you buy!
The reefing hook is interesting, but one of the biggest forces on a gooseneck is generated from the kicking strap, or vang. That is more than a reefing line.
I guess that depends on the boat. After all faster boats don’t need the kicker due to the apparent wind. But yes, your right, the kicker creates a lot Ioad mind you it’s not direct load to the gooseneck. Still, maybe better to relive as much compression as possible. Of course you could just pop a jammer on the boom too, I do like the jammer and the hooks too, not sure what we we will choose for the rig on new build though.
With that Integrel generator between engine and gearbox my old engine wouldn't have much left to turn the prop :)
Cool products, great show.
Yeah, that’s a shame. Their market is oem new builds which makes sense. Mind you, could you not move your engine mounts 10cm to accommodate, that’s how I presume most will be fitted.
@@SailHuband that means a new propshaft too.
@normanboyes4983 no, you should need a new shaft, your gearbox stays where it is, only the engine should move forward 👍
Thanks Lots of very interesting stuff
Hi Herbert! Thanks, glad it was interesting for you! 👍
Couldn’t agree more
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2:57 Why you got B-role of folks walking backwards right here???
😜 yay someone spotted it! Congrats! To be honest, I wanted the shot to play backwards to make it flow better which didn’t affect the product but obviously affected those people walking and I just thought what harm is it causing and it made be chuckle. So thought I’d leave it in to see if anyone else noticed 🤪 so credits on you! 👏
is there a close up video on the reefing hook?
Sure, I think Karver have some videos you could look at. Otherwise we could get another look at an upcoming show for you.
Came for the camper building......staying for a pro-level exhibition tour?!?!
Triple threat I say.
Hey! Thanks for that, great to have you on board! Not sure about the triple mind 😀
See you in the next one!!
Did I understand the Karver slab reefing hook correctly. For every reef I would need a hook and 2 lines led aft. So for our 3 reefs I end up with 3 hooks hanging from the boom and 6 lines led aft. I get no adjustment of distance from the boom or outhaul.
Alternatively, our system also has no compression onto the gooseneck as we reef at the mast and our reefing lines are cleated on the boom itself (so the compression forces are within the boom?). As the reefing lines are tensioned to the reef clew from further aft we essentially have a reasonably functional outhaul for each reef. A lot less complex ;-)
Yeah you got it right. The outlhaul on the hooks should be set and forget, if your reefing your not generally looking for any power from draft.
As for your reefing lines being locked at the mast, that’s great.
I guess you still have to go forward but more to importantly you still have a lot of weight on your leech form the lines. That being said if your not fighting for light air performance your all good 👍
I sort of get it.
Surely the leach line still has to be quite strong just to pull down / in the sail (the release can be very light) For most just using a slightly heavier Dynema leach lines would be enough.
If you had a clutch on the boom, with a line release, you could have no compression on the gooseneck and still have adjustable.
Thinking about it, when you may need to have a lower tension, it is light wind, so you can go forward to adjust
For sure, your right there. Dyneema lines are a great way to improve things.
The hooks are pretty cool I that you can use much smaller lines and it’s all ran back to the cockpit. Being able to to run them back to the cockpit without spoiling the light air shape is a real advantage of the hooks.
So..... Temo 1000 or Remigo? Maybe not enough end-user feedback yet? Just registered for next years show!
Cool! See you there!
Not sure which I would go with, most likely Remigo. It just feels ready for anything! Mind you, being able to remove a sensibly shaped battery from the Temo is a great advantage too!
The Remigo is very interesting. I wonder if it could do regeneration? Then with a simple mount on the stern of your boat could mean that your dinghy motor becomes a generation source when sailing plus an emergency rudder.
Just wondering too. When used on the dinghy can it be locked on to prevent theft?
Yeah they are pretty cool for sure. I believe you can hydrogenerate with them. Not sure about licking to the transom but I’m pretty sure you would find a way with your industrious mind!
Most electric companies have a system to lock people out if there is no pass key (phone) for it so it renders it useless without the coded phone or password.
Could be worth giving them a call here in the UK, Nathan is the chap you want, he is super knowledgeable and knows everything about them👍
@SailHub re the security. I love that we can remove the battery of our epropulsion and lock it in the dinghy bow locker. I don't think electronic disabling on it's own is enough.
I love the idea of combining hydrogeneration with emergency steering and dinghy outboard (combining watt&sea, part of a hydrovane and outboard). Will keep them in mind for down the road.
Yeah, I think we need to secure motors well. Mind you, do you take it for a hike with you?
Generation isn’t likely to be ground breaking from it mind you, I’ve not tried it. I would imagine it will be on par to a spirit from ePropulsion. Which works enough to put it in a sales pitch.
@@SailHub We are able to use a standard outboard transom lock, wouldn't work with the Remigo as you can detach the expensive part from the transom mount. No hiking but with the engine locked to the transom without a battery and the battery locked away out of sight we feel it's a reasonable level of security.
I'm motivated by our very limited "real estate" on the stern of our Rival 38, at times a modern very beamy stern seems attractive, then I simply imagine beating off a lee shore in a gale and the lack of space for things on the stern seems minor ;-)
Despite the limited space I really want to find a way to get a boarding ladder, wind vane and emergency rudder on our stern. Significant hydrogeneration would be icing on the cake. I love stuff that works well together or has multiple uses.
We can't afford a Hydrovane or even a South Atlantic S500 so we have gone for a Hebridean Vane (got a great bargain recently). Our wheel steering at the forward end of the cockpit makes it a challenge. Beyond that I'm trying to design a way of having a boarding ladder, Hebridean wind vane and emergency steering (ideally that could be steered either by the Hebridean or a tillerpilot) that all works together - but it won't be a top priority for a long while.
I love you and I trust your reviews and shoutouts for new tech, but reviews from Dusseldorf should come earlier than the last day of August... just saying.
Maybe it’s from 2025 and they have used RUclips’s time advance feature to give us a preview. After-all we are closer to next years show than this years show. 😂
Cheers matey! Yeah, they should.. we’ve had a lot on our plate! I hope you understand. Basically we were not going to put it out as it’s too late but that seemed a waste.
For sure! We’re closer to next years but still, I think the Karver chat makes sense and to be honest there’s nothing really new in the video anyhow, it’s more about making folks aware of some products they may not have seen.
We’ve been so focused on the van and the boat that we have had to cut back this year, there’s just not enough time!! Hope you understand.
How is Integrel Solution's E-Drive going to be air-cooled and work efficiently inside an engine bay ? Has this been tested on water yet ?
Maybe you should ask them!
It has been tested, mind you there are ports on the bottom which would suggest liquid cooling to me.
I was looking to see a suitcase fresh water maker. Obvious but missing.
Hey, I’ve not hear of these Watermakers, maybe youare referring to the likes of the Rainman style?
In general, we try to find new things with a new style. Ocean spring made it in to a recent video for their Watermakers as they have a proven system, the new side of it is their dedication to sensible pricing. They could be worth a look, let them know we sent you too 👍
Mind you, do forward us to the brand you are referring too, it will be great to check them out!
@@SailHub I'm referring to anyone who puts a portable affordable system in the hands of the ocean masses.
Got ya, maybe check out ocean spring then👍
@@SailHub Suitcase water makers are glaringly obviously missing from boat shows. = no advancement for something needed.
I see, the rain man is a pretty well served piece of kit. The thing is, it’s going to be quite hard to innovate those things as the membranes are so small. Will keep my eyes peeled at the next shows for you
Temo sucks
Thanks for the comment, and that’s fair enough, everyone has their own opinion. How about the Temo 1000? Have you checked that out? I think with ref to the Temo450 it definitely has its place and really depends on your usage as to how you’d rate it. For example if you had cruising kids… I think it’d be a no brainer. It’s also ideal to nip to the market in dodgy anchorages as you can literally swing it over your shoulder rather than leave it to be stolen and for some it may simply take the anxiety away from petrol outboards. It’s not going to help you in a storm but then again that’s not what it’s designed for. Hope you found some of the other bits of kit interesting 👊🏼