To Kyoto tourists: don’t touch the geisha
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Tourists have been largely supportive of the move to restrict visitors from entering the historic geisha district in the Japanese city of Kyoto. The ban will take effect
in April 2024, when tourists visiting Gion will not be allowed from entering private alleyways which serve as entrances for geisha. The measure came after incidents have been reported of the traditional entertainers being harassed for photos and being touched.
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❌ Don't touch the geishas
✅ Don't touch literally anyone without their consent
Yes, remember only their rich powerful clients can.
@@s._3560 Well, that's consent. If you pay you can watch them perform their skills in music, singing, dancing, playing instruments, even magic tricks, general knowledge and traditional japanese culture too. And not only men clients but women too and not only the "rich powerful" people btw.
Respect is cross cultural. It's common sense.
@@s._3560 Congratulations, you just invented prostitution all over again.
@@sweetbitterpink nah. In Japan you can treat people like literal slaves if you slap them with a large bill. That ain't consent, that's oppression built into the system.
I live in Kyoto. I see so many tourists, especially the American and Chinese ones, who harass and touch the Geishas without consent. One time, a tourist family came into our garden of our house to take pictures of our house. We Kyoto people are sick of tourists behaving this way. Kyoto is a city with living people, not your Disneyland.
That's such a shame. I'm sorry, man. Nobody should be treated like that.
As a American I and my family do not associate with those type of American tourists for us we are always polite and keep our hands to ourselves, but we do apologize for what our people do over there it is never okay to do that to anyone If only everyone can be appropriate and have manners
Of cause japanese can tell if the tourists are american or from the other english-speaking nations, and chinese or taiwanese by their looks or the accent. They never judge people for no reason. I completely believe you 999%
Feel the same way for Kyoto people too when visiting Gion. A lot of tourists are beyond cultural education.
You haven’t seen British tourists in Spanish land
Never understood why tourists would do such acts. Touching locals, defacing artifacts, not respecting local customs etc. Don't do unto others what you don't want others do unto you. What's so hard to understand about that?
I would understand that since some countries seen way worse actions by tourists than Japan.
Entitlement
@@UTTPOFFICEROFUTTPSUCKS Hagia Sofia is literally being eaten by tourists. Some people are just... weird.
@@aeg889I think it's from the media. You got goofs thinking Japan is some ultra anti woke right wing nation lol
World average IQ has been in consistent decline. I am not surprised really. But these tourists affect the image of long term/permanent foreign residents as well. Just ban these f4k3rs.
"Bullies are always the ones whinning about the consequences on the rules they broke."
Those Dutch tourists, very sensible! Cheers to them, if only all tourists could be so understanding.
Privacy is very important in the Netherlands
Definitely Smart and Sensible
ARE CHINESE
@@avamusic8176indian hater scammer
@@LalaDepala_00 As someone that works in hotels in Mallorca, I find ducth people the most rude, after the British.
Why are yall touching people you dont know in a foreign country lol
Entitlement. Mfs haven't ever felt the consequences
They do the same thing here in the states. They are always touching black folks' hair. 😑
Curiosity; like 1st time seeing a cat or dog for their life. 😅
This.
I don't even touch strangers in my own country, better yet, I don't even touch people I KNOW in my own country.
It's hard to imagine even wanting to touch a stranger in another country.
Wild that this most basic form of human decency has to be reinstated in the comments.
I'm shocked that tourists would harass them. I think it's basic manners to ask permission for photos, and then ask if they could touch their hair accessories (even tho they would say no, but decent courtesy). this is why we can't have nice things :(
@@R_1T8 "abused geishas verbally for not obeying the tourists commands. "???? twhat tourist commands -_- I think it's the visitors should obey the hosts rules, not the other way round. ugh, entitlement at it's finest.
As an American I cannot comprehend why anyone would think it was OK to touch someone else without their permission.
Because many people, influenced by social media, think Japan is some kind of theme park. It's like going to Disneyland and touching Mickey Mouse. Due in part to the weak yen, punks who are not familiar with and do not respect Japanese culture are now coming to Japan.
The lifestyle of a Geisha is very hectic. From starting off as a maiko (a geisha in-training) to a full fledge geisha. They have little time to spare because they often are on a strict schedule going from one tea-house to another and if they are often booked, it means they're going for a full day's work.
It's great this law is being enforced because people often ignore the reality of what many of these girls go through. Last thing they want is an ignorant tourist being obnoxious and creepy towards them while they are trying to get to their destination on time. We need more tourists like that Dutch couple who are culturally conscience and less of ones like that group of Australians.
More Indians
I want to ask those tourists "why are you touching woman geisha without their consent?" This isn't Disneyland. Respect the local customs.
It's not ok to touch the mascots without their consent and harass them at Disneyland either 😮. But I know what you meann😊
@@bubblegumxo I haven't been to Disneyland since I was a kid but maybe because also I was a kid, I hugged most of the mascots back then. Plus they are wearing costumes. Now, I don't think I can afford it. But I know I cannot walk up to one of the princess and start touching their dress or hair.
I've been to Japan several times and you have to really do a little bit of homework and not just go do whatever you want. You are a guest. Respect their culture and customs.
I once saw a bunch of Americans harassing geisha while they're blogging. Another time, a group of Indian tourists too, while she was waiting for taxi, they wanted to put their hands around her shoulder, she just politely rejected them.
As an Indian, I'm so ashamed how Indians act like invasive species abroad.
We love touching
Spanish hotels and resorts that got filled by Brits: First time?
@@misterbig9025it's not appropriate. No matter what culture or people, nobody wants to be touched for no reason.
@@UTTPOFFICEROFUTTPSUCKSooh fck off with your whataboutism. I live in germany and I can assure you that american tourists are the worst.
I will never understand why people touch people they don’t know without permission 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
It’s always been bad but now, it’s worst than ever. I remember there used to be a foreigner who ran a RUclips channel and his content was just him stalking every geisha. He eventually started to remember their names and would narrate which geisha was who. Freaking creep.
That's terrible. Did RUclips take him down?
Yes that old blonde American guy if I remember correctly
@@EE-uj6tw are you talking about Logan Paul?
@@dangalati3722 LP be legit on everything lol (but fr he came to my mind while watching many of these similar videos)
@@dangalati3722 I don’t know if RUclips ever did but I remember reporting his channel and all his videos years ago, so hopefully RUclips looked into it.
Never touch any woman without her permission.
Never touch _anyone_ without permission for that matter. It goes without saying, everyone has personal space that needs respect.
Your mother didn't seem to mind though
@@subparticle8995 you sound very sensitive and thoughtful. i hope you continue to push forward the development of our entire world with your supreme sense of humor and pure intellectual prowess.
maybe you could get into nasa's future space program and be the first person to set foot on mars. then you should take off your spacesuit
This is embarrassing. Fellow westerners…..be respectful!! Why did they think a Geisha allows some stranger to touch them? Thats harassment!
It's the Chinese tourists
@@chechnya????
It's westerners
Its both @@cocaineminor4420
Probably because their guide don't rule out that?
Chinese
Yess!!! Dont call them, dont pull their clothes, dont shove your cellphone to their face, dont ask for pictures, dont follow them around... PLEASE!!!!...Give them their privacy, they are just trying to go to work...
“That is why we can’t have nice things”.
Fr though this is just embarrassing and it paints all of us in the west in a terrible light I'll never understand how people can go to other countries to experience another land and culture and not atleast try to learn and adhere to the cultural norms and traditions its downright shameful.
This is what happens when people can't behave by themselves and need others to set the rules for them.
As an American, I sincerely apologize on behalf of my fellow Americans… jeez. Some people are just too dumb to remember that they’re not in Disneyland.
Shouldn't do that in Disneyland either... it's not a cultural thing it is people literally being pos
Geishas & Maikos require privacy just like anybody else!!! They don't want their faces to appear in some random travel influencer's instagram page without their consent!!! REMEMBER that!!! Let alone touching their hair!!!
he's literally finishing her sentences when she is getting stuck on the english words..... and it is SO CUTE!!!!!! what a cute couple!!
who the F in the right mind will go around touching people?
creeps
@@kikoedano6861Drunk tourists also
Cambodian scammers.
Most foreigner related issues in Japan are due to communication issues. The geishas probably don't know how to assertively say "no" to the tourists without ruining their own reputation by breaking character.
Japan has a non-confrontational culture and English is not their first language... Visitors should learn their way of communicating and not keep going unless they hear an assertive no.
You are wrong. You are blaming the Geishas for the tourists actions. Its just common sense, you don't harass people...period. These idiots dont know how to read body language then. If a person is trying to walk away from a person trying to take a picture of them, that is MORE than enough to tell anyone with a functioning brain to stop right there. These folks push the envelope. I am completely in favor for Singaporean order. If Japan has that , then none of these bad behaving tourists would even think about misbehaving. If you know how Singapore rolls, you will know what I am talking about.
WAIT!! Touching strangers was NEVER OK!
That Kyoto area and Amsterdam red light district have something in common. No photography or video. Why would anyone touch other people without their consent. That is pretty much an universal no no.
Yep, violating their boundaries and autonomy. That's a big universal no no!
No free country interrupt Asian culture, so big no no
This is very true. People view the working women as an attraction.
Hindus
Someone being polite to you doesn't always mean they like you. It's a cultural difference that you need to accept if you decide to visit another country. If you can't accept that then it's better off for you to stay wherever you are.
The same way people make fun of Buckingham Palace Guards...
The same way British people harass Spanish locals too
Usually other British people.
Japan big cities are way too overcrowded with tourists. Time to make some tourist limitations
japan is in recession, they need the money. but, some restrictions are still okay.
@@balaclava23The Spanish government has been already doing this. So, it’s time Japan starts doing the stricter restrictions to stop tourists from doing such actions, as a Vietnamese tourist to Japan for a long time.
@@balaclava23 Not true. The tourists arent spending much of anything and cutting corners wherever they can. I can cite examples: Tourists are cutting corners by trying to stay outside and squatting in temples and shrines for free to avoid hotels to have food money, they bargain bin for their meals at conbini stores, tourists are cheating fares on bullet trains to ride for free and telling people on social media how to do it, and they frequent Ramen shops. These folks are not spending much of anything. The economy is breaking even but not getting ahead and this was just from the recent economic nationwide study two weeks ago. The tourists cost more to the country than what they put into it. Cleaning up behind these litter hounds. repairing damaged property, and disrupting the daily life of the locals who cant get to work due to overtourism. Yes they are contributing alright . Contributing chaos to a tranquil nation. The only entity making out like bandits are the airline industry. Not Japan. They spend everything on airfare and then live on a discount when here. With the USD overpowering the JPY, there is hadly any money being spent in Japan.That is why they are here, Its cheap.
Agreed, this is respect for the geisha that we do not touch them. But bend to visit the district that means we not longer can see those traditional housing and environmental. This is very sad. I fell in love with Kyoto since my first visit last mid-July. I would like to visit Kyoto again this year.
Could easily just make it by tour only so people are guided toward appropriate expectations.
Why are people touching other people without permission? People are annoying
Sad how a nice place to visit had to be spoiled by bellends who don't know how to behave like adults in public. I think it's worth remembering that people who'll harass strangers for pictures or touch their hair would likely be as equally dumb and disrespectful in their own home countries. It's depresses how this always seems to happen to countries that are as tourism friendly as Japan is, they really do want people to visit! I've never understood people's inability to conduct themselves in public.
We have the same problem in Amsterdam. Tourists think it is Disney land and don't view the people there as actual people.
Amsterdam is liberal filth.
Do we need to sit for an exam and take courses before travelling to other countries? It seems that some people thinks that they're privileged to be disrespectful and disregard of people cultures and personal space. I was there in Kyoto I didn't touch random people. When they say no photo, no touching or for food I remember - dip in sauce (Shin sekai if I remember correctly) just once etc. How is it that hard to understand? We are just visitors, we have to abide by their laws and rule.
Geisha aren't OF cosplayers. They are human too.
Weird to compare the two. They couldn't be more different
OF cosplayers, whatever that actually mean, should not be touched without their consent. We should not feel entitled to touch ANYONE without their consent.
@@captainobvious6070ok dog
@@captainobvious6070*except in emergency. You would want a helping hand in dangerous situations.
OF cosplayers are also human. Don’t touch anybody without their explicit consent, period.
Always respect local traditions.
While all those tourist harassing geishas may be true I also recall the people living in Kyoto as being the rudest and least welcome to visitors in Japan. I’ve been waved out of so many small shops and restaurants in Kyoto without explanation, never experienced being so unwelcome before.
Yet I’m going to visit again in April and it’s sad that I won’t be able to photograph a live performance
I've experienced something somewhat similar. Although I haven't been asked to leave many places like you did, I have encountered a few shops that clearly posted outside the restaurant/shop that there is no English menu as a more polite way of saying no foreigners allowed. While walking around the shopping district near Gion I've heard a Japanese couple (older man and a tall beautiful looking woman) talking about how Japan doesn't look like Japan at all and that he wants to kick out all the foreigners. I don't think they suspect that I know Japanese to some extent, but since I do, I was able to hear these xenophobic opinions in public. Surprisingly, Japanese people despite having a culture of respect and discipline aren't aware of how the world has changed and that it's not uncommon to find people who are multilingual visiting different countries and especially Japan. Kyoto is a nice city, but like you've noticed it's definitely one of the more conservative cities in Japan.
Most small bars and restaurants in Kyoto are reservation or regulars only. You shouldn’t feel too upset about it. On the other Kyoto is known as the least friendly of Japanese cities even by the Japanese themselves.
Better : don't touch people without consent.
Seriously. Just ask before touching.
Don't touch people without their consent. How hard is that?
This is social media's fault.
Social media has spread a lot of misinformation about geisha and maiko.
People who are influenced by that are harassing them.
True.
Plague of our time😮
yea people mix them up with Oiran, my grandma would say that Geishas were prostitutes, but i found out it was false. It's our job to be decent and educate ourselves.
Just imagine working and some strangers come up to you and wants a picture and start touching you.
Who the f*** would want to touch a geisha anyway?
Who the f*ck would touch you OR breath the same toxic air as you. EW
They should organize geisha photographing sessions for the tourists and the geishas who agree should be paid. IMHO, geishas are entertainers, so they should sometimes be accessible to tourists and Japanese fans. But, like other entertainers, they should be left alone when they want privacy.
Absolutely agree. They should be paid for their time, should they agree to participate
Shows you do not even realise geishas are dining companions for high class people traditionally.
You don't know me from Adam. Don't you have better things to do with your time besides trolling people online?@@tangt4860
Shows that you think that money solves everything. Why don't you suggest the same to the King's guards. I am sure they will receive you with open arms.
They are storytellers it's their talent and art and if movie stars are treated with so much respect then why can't they have that respect even they are artists.
Making this seem like a "Westerner" problem is dishonest and misleading - at least it is not as bad as SCMP last video where it tried hard to pin it on the Westerners even in the narration.
I'm a tour guide living in Kyoto for about a decade now. Whenever I have to do to a hanamachi tour I always instruct my clients to imagine their own female relatives in the shoes of the UNDERAGE maiko and that helps immensely.
After so many years, I can honestly say that it's overwhelmingly Chinese and Israeli tourists that are the worst offenders.
The only times I saw tour guides actually actively encourage vile behavior (e.g. "camping" outside okiyas at the door, closing off alleys so the girls can not pass, blocking them from getting in a cab etc.) was with Israeli tour groups. Chinese tourists are also quite bad, disrespecting private property, intruding into private premises of ochayas for a selfie, sticking their cameras into the doors and windows of local buildings regardless whether they are private residences or tea houses (both horrible), harassing the girls etc.
Now let's see how long before this comment gets silenced.
Sadly that's not surprising to learn. I was in an international boarding school as a teenager, and our absolutely worst behaved student was from Israel. He groped whichever female students he wanted to, threw objects at teachers, and would try to hurt people by either pushing them onto the sidewalk or by slamming sports stuff at them. I guess he was rich because the school completely allowed it, even the groping. He was never held accountable. It was so beyond the behavior of everyone else.
Actually you’re not the only person who said this. A person who lives in Kyoto said it’s the Chinese tourist too. But the Israeli tourist is new. But majority of ppl blame the western tourist and I assumed western too though I am western. But I was more mad at the fact that I won’t be able to see geishas now. I love geishas, the culture, the clothing, and I wanted to be a geisha when I was younger. Which is 1 of the main reasons of going to Japan. But now I’m reconsidering, I already watch videos of foreigners not being liked much (because some foreigners don’t know how to behave) in Japan and that there’s some places foreigners can’t go into. But that didn’t bother me cuz those places I didn’t care for but this is the one thing I wanted and it’s taken away from me. It’s not Japan fault, I get why they put the law there but it makes me hate Japan and being a foreigner. It’s making me bitter.
@@schrox2452 I am sorry to hear that, although not exactly surprising for me either. Not sure why but that weird entitlement or lack of fear of consequences or whatever it is seems to be a thing.
That said, I also had quite a few individual travelers from Israel who were absolutely amazing, so I'm not bashing the whole nation or ethnicity, just saying that as far as badly behaved tour groups go my experiences with them were really negative.
I'm a bit shocked. american's can't touch random women in their own country. why would they think they can do it in japan??!!
Entitlement
gov't: pictures are not allowed!
painter: my time has come
Thats why i hate Nouveau Riche , Main Character Syndrome Tourist and Youngling Tiktoker Teenager Type of Tourist
You mean also adults. 😑😒.
You hit the nail on the head. Couldn't have said better.
@@Inconstructionmaybe-x5v Adults acting like spoiled ten year olds*
Yeah, don’t touch the geishas you pesky gaijins.
Those tourists are a disgrace to all foreigners in Japan. Kyoto didn't have any of these problems, let alone litter, before the foreign tourist crowds. I hope that Japan craze eventually fades and Kyoto can be that lovely preserved gem again.
People still have the perception geisha are ktv girls. Geisha are stage performers and only engage in small talks with their customers.
Some tourists do not know how to respect geishas so it is just right to ban foreigners in that particular area.
Maybe they can have an extend "controlled" area nearby specially for tourists only? Where tour guide or "entertainer" dress as geisha just to promo their culture, photo taking & education purposes. So the real geisha wouldn't be affected..
It disgusts me that people from Western countries and China can't just be polite for once in their lives.
Well, ive never been, but if theres a rule and folks are disrespecting it, then they are at their will to do as they please. If the tourists don't like it, well, blame it on the tourist who ruined it for you
Tourists need to respect the local environment and economy.
Arrest all who do not obey another country's laws. Had japanese folks do something bad in the tourist country, they would definitely be mad at the japanese visitors. Respect whichever country you are visiting and if you do not know the laws, ask.
the australian karen
I don't have a problem with a country protecting a traditional part of their culture.
Its their country. Their rule.
What?.
Being a tourist is not a green light to break the country's rules. If you want to act the way you normally would, then stay at your own country or a country more similar to yours.
Give the Geisha girls concealed Santoku knives, in case they didn’t get the message
American tourists in other nation: Rules and traditions, what are those? 😅
Ok, but this isn’t about Americans specifically so it doesn’t help to single them out (if Americans are even doing this at all).
@@rezwhapBut people are saying it is specifically Americans and Chinese tourists
@@LalaDepala_00 That’s fair, but I’ve also seen other nationalities mentioned. (I’m not American so I’m not personally offended or anything!)
@@rezwhap If you aren’t American then stop acting offended in their stead xD
Social Media really ruined it for everyone ....The young generation today , they know nothing about respect the culture ,they just want to take that photo for tiktok to put on social media ! Freaking sad....
Oh yeah okay…. it’s never older people who have no concept of other cultures. Older people would NEVER be disrespectful 🙄I hate when people blame a certain generation. It’s not one group it’s anyone without common sense. Did you miss that older Australian lady saying she didn’t understand what the big deal was???? I’ve met some VERY rude and unaware old people.
just don't touch others period.... not just @ Kyoto but anywhere in the world...
I think this should be common knowledge. Who the f touches strangers on the street, even touching celebs is freaky
The Tatsumi Bridge is stone, not wooden.
I really can't blame the enforcement of this law considering that some tourists are morons
Who touches random people without asking? How can they live and work with people who touch, harass and take photos without asking. Leave them alone and let them work. Some people should not be tourists. If they are this rude please stay home.
I respect Japanese artist, they are not my photo prop.
Doesn't that go with anyone else anywhere you visit?
Don't go to other countries and tell them what and what not to do. Stay out
You Can't buy Respect and Common Sense through Academical Degree
Title: don't touch the geishas
Video: turists arguing of whether they could take pictures of the scenery
Taking pictures into touching geishas. Got it.
Geishas are not JAV idols.
Lol even JAV stars have standards....😂😂
@@aetius7139 It's the screams
**Chinese and Muricans Tourist Coming**
The Geisha : The Pain in the ketsu are strikes again
WHO WOULD IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD TOUCH A GEISHA??? They are such cool people. 😢😎
A full grown adult doesn’t need to be told that they shouldn’t touch other people without their consent. It’s extremely baffling how certain individuals get offended when you tell them this. Most tourists are full grown adults and it’s sad that most of them from various parts of the world do not understand basic consent. As an Indian myself, I am ashamed of other Indian tourists choosing to partake in this. In Indian culture, it is pretty common for people to touch the faces of other people especially when the person is youthful. This is quite common until today because of the Indian drama shows that always have those types of behavior. Regardless of where in the world you come from, let’s choose to respect other people’s boundaries and stop treating them like property or a toy doll. This is the modern era. Thank you.
To dear Kyoto, stop plastering and advertising Geishas like they are not a living being.
Its really not a Tourists fault.
Kyoto should do something to protect them.
I hate that how some people just take advantage and ruin it for others that are being respectful
Trying touching anyone here in US...😂😂😂 Ull get into a fight
Why does this even need to be reminded? Are people dumb?
Probably, they've read too much from the book memoirs of a geisha 😂
For touching, that’s some place else
Just start charging them
$50 per pic
They’ll start keeping their distance
On the downside This is make many people not come to those areas tbh, as tourists are fascinated by the geishas and sumos it's natural to ask for pictures,they're never going to see something like that again so yeah, but touching without consent is bad.
Most probems are americans and streamers. Stop annoy japanese locals
I had the opposite problem. But I don’t think it was a “real” one idk.
She kept feeling my shoulders and I was uncomfortable but also needed the confidence boost.
Kyoto residents are known for being notoriously exclusive, even toward other Japanese. Anyway, I think they have the right to ask visitors to respect their privacy.
Tourists must respect local rules or else pay the consequences.
WOuld oyu touch a random stranger on the street? No? Then you should not touch the geisha either
From arctic.
Privacy is polite.
And no touching people, any people.
I agree with Privacy. Eskimo do not even look in another's eyes . Definitely don't touch!! As visitor anyway.
You would think common sense would tell you not to touch someone without their consent.
Seriously guys??? You literally have no bounds you should be ashamed of yourselves for being so immature and childish! These women are trying to proceed their culture and you keep being highly disrespectful like your parents never taught you boundaries, that's all-
What kind of tourist takes photographs of the locals without their consent and disrupts their privacy???
Do not touch geishas without their consent. It can amount to battery, a criminal offence.
i wonder tho, how are they gonna differentiate other east asians (korean, chinese) from japanese people if theyre gonna ban tourists like are they gonna do an id check or sumthing? for example my friend is fluent in japanese and has lived in japan, but shes korean (born and raised in korea)
Because tourist being a biggest Kxnt as always....especially MAINLANDER!
NEVER stop geishas walking through the streets. Theyre on the clock as soon as they leave the house and cannot be late to their gigs
Just want to point out that SCMP is Chinese-owned these days and that the video refers to the Chinese behaving like animals every April in Japan. (but they cant say that)
And in London when the CCP members hassled Dr K’s piano livestream.
Do not harass gheishas, be respectful, but also do not start to make a private streets Japan VS a whatever Japan or the millions of tourists will go somewhere else... 😅