when the doohickey first came out the radar allowed you to see the dot of everyone no matter where they were on the map, making it probably one of the best utility planes in the game
I remember like the second match I had in this plane, the game came down to me and another Sea Vixen vs. two Ariete's. As you can imagine, we decided to just strap on bombs and go after bomb targets while the Ariete's could do nothing but continue to fail at catching us. It was a very boring end to the match.
Sea vixen was immensely fun for the longest time. After the last major missile rework sadly the missiles are pretty useless. Red tops used to kill reliably at around 2 to 2.5 km. Now you have to slip them into the target right off the rail.
this is one of those planes that I feel is the absolute horror at 8.7. "it's extremely good at ruining other people's fun" i'm a g.91 r/3 player myself, and there is no worse feeling than ending a brilliant dogfight, about to get the shot, and then this thing appears on the radar 2.5km away... i hate it however. 1100% bonus SL is very tasty
And having the saab 105 having to face this thing that is near 2x the speed and has radar and missles that are good at the same br which is unfair aswell as 8.7 faces 10.0 90% of the time is entirely unfair
@@Sten05 Sea Vixen is as overpowered as the f-104 in the sense that it is near impossible to kill in a down tier but is dogshit in an up tier except the Sea Vixen is incredibly easy to counter. It is unfair but also shit at the same time.
Before matches were made larger the f3h would get downtiered in with this thing all the time and I would actively target them because of how annoying I felt they were, now in the f3h I never even see these things and fear for the teammates I left behind..
Sea vixen is one of the best of many planes in the british tree, it's just easy to get kills with even in an uptier unless the enemy has flares, which very few do
0:14 the Sea vixen prototype was originally meant to have four 20 mm ADEN cannons in the nose, But they were removed on the production model for what ever reason (probably so that they could fit in the radar).
would be cool to see screenshots of the post-game stats page after every game, just for a second or two so i can pause and see roughly what kind of rewards id be expecting
Sea Vixen was my first missile kill when I joined Missile Thunder in my F-100D. Not long after that, I gave up missiles entirely for grinding in my F-100 and stuck to base bombing, since it was just more reliably profitable.
Added this video to warch later and thought I might've found a cool new WT creator. Luckily I was recommended an old joala video so I went to his uploads to see if he'd uploaded any new content. Saved me a lot of time.
I struggle to get kills with it, mostly because it doesn't have a gun. The missiles are okay, but they struggle to hit a target that is moving AT ALL even if they are just slightly moving faster than you in a straight line. The gun problem though. I have been in SO many situations where if I had a gun I would have gotten the kill. So many pointless dogfights because I can't do anything about it. I don't play War Thunder anymore so it isn't a problem anymore.
This plane can actually dogfight 1v1. The thing is that nobody expects that and you get limited time to kill them once they overshoot. Very satisfying ☺️
@@IvanTre6 G, but yeah. Although I enjoy it. Easy plane to get easy kills in. Like you said if you have more than 3 functional brain cells it’s pretty much p2w. Just the way I like it. Also it’s 8.7. Know before you say anything, just sayin.
This plane is the biggest reason why I avoid 9.0 most of the time. It's not even the plane's performance itself, it's just that you can never afford to have your tail towards it. I find the F11 to be an alright counter, but in such fights the Sea Vixens go for the undershoot and pop a Red Top.
Yeah, it really has a flight model that is too good to be true sometimes. The Red Top though, that thing can get lost on an empty parking lot. I have it and it's fun to play most of the time.
I can remember a while ago i was getting chased by a sea vixen and it was 6km away and i could hear the missile sound and i looked behind and it was right there next to me. i thought i was safe but the missile almost got me. from that day on i always look back every 30 seconds.
To be fair it was a steaming pile of a hot take... goes on about how bad it is and how bad the RedTop is... all while he launches 4 and they all score kills...
If your take from the video is sea vixen bad and red tops suck, idk what to tell you man. that’s not at all what I said. I recommend rewatching the video
@@SeekerHead You list all the limitations of the jet/missile and then deliver a class in how to use it effectively... somehow using it in the rather obvious manner in which it is effective is "Ratty".
Jesus.. I was thinking "hm, fine plane for tech tree plane, as long as it's great for grinding" You: says "it's only a rank 5 premiu..." Me: gagged with my tea spoon while drinking Richard Tea
The missile knows where it is at all times! It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is - whichever is greater - it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviation to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
This was very helpful, thanks mate! I kept losing fights in this thing and you've given me some good ideas to run with. You mentioned it is not a good aircraft to grind out the British tree. Which would you say is?
It’s not a terrible option per se, but you’re limited by the lack of gun, it caps out quickly. Unfortunately the Brits really don’t have any great options in my opinion for grinding, I wouldn’t buy any of the expensive packs unless they’re on sale
@@SeekerHead Thanks for getting back to me. yes, I don't know if you mentioned it in the video but the Vixen does not do well when up-tiered. It can't really compete without countermeasures or guns against some of those more accurate missiles and maneuverable planes. If there are no other options for Britain in the premium selection, then I won't bother with them and just plod through with the tech tree ones. Patriotism does however preclude me from taking your advice from another video (I believe it was your Tornado one), where you said something to the effect of 'the best way to get through top tier Britain is to pick another nation.'
Just curious about what you think of this thing (look wise) vs the other British doritto aircraft in game: The gloscter Javelin. .3 of a BR lower, worse missiles and 4 adens in the wings
Arguing with chat in the city battle can all be explained by 'skill issue' Its funny arguing with these people because the lack of experience. Even shadow nerfs or shadow buffs are a hard topic sometimes because these people need the patch notes and if it aint on the patch notes they think it isn't true.
This plane is literally one of the worst I have ever played. People always know how to dodge missiles when I fire them, and even doing Mach, people easily keep getting hits on me. Absolutely NOT worth buying.
i would never say its the ugliest, for me it looks the best, i had this plane as a test drive, and i really thought that jet tier is as easy as that, but then the trial ended and it took me 2-4 months to get to jet tier, and its the hardest time ive had in my life :D sea vixen is playing the game on a easy mode
Shut up with that description gaijin already wont give us our experimental aircraft that acc flew, and the sea vixen is gorgeous my dad painted one zebra camo when he was in boarding school in the 1970s
How did you get the radar lock? I tried everything to change the radar scope and nothing helped. I'm usually using the settings wheel on Y by defoult. Thanks :)
theres a pay to win game braking plane at every fukin BR and past f5c 90% of teams are pay to win that crash taking off.... i was 2 years in the f104 with no flairs and now im f5e and still have to deal with pay to win 4 missiles mig21 or worse f4s with 6 missiles that can be shot from 6 km and i have 2 that can be shot at 2km also fight mig 23 mlt pay to win with missile that flaires do notthing and u cant dodge.... so now im building up just to have a pos stock f8 or whatever stock to get confronted with f16 to start the pain and ruin game ladder.............
i hate this plane with all my heart, it's just a low skill plane that just requires you to target already slow enemies (wich probably got slow because they are engaging a dogfight, making this the ultimate dogfight breaker, in a br where dogfights are still doable) and/or distracted enemies at range of up to 2 km sometimes even more if they have gravity by their side; and as a normal plane all you can do against these shitters, is just try to stick to their tail until they get bored and run away like rats, or in the worst of cases, turn off your engine about 10 secconds BEFORE they are on your six, wich ultimately brings to your demise as other enemies will of course try to pick you off, and your engine won't be turning on anytime soon... i can at least say it's so funny piloting a canberra at 2+ km altitude and turning off all engines just to leave a tailing sea vixen with the will to kill you, but no actual means other than ramming you
It’s ratty because nobody can catch you, so you run away until they have to fight someone else then get on their 6. and since you have 16G missies they’re forced to stop their other fight and completely turn into you. It’s just annoying
@@SeekerHead I could say the same thing about a properly flown P-51 vs a Zero... its just a case of not being an idiot that plays to the other guys strengths over your own.
It really isn’t. If you’re in a P51 you can play speed/energy without running away until the enemy turns around. With the sea vixen you have no choice but to run until the enemy has to do something else, and you always can because it’s ridiculously faster than everything. Then when they’re now caught up in something else, just your presence of being there forces them to have to disengage what they’re doing to counter the 16G missile. There is no running away from the sea vixen or leading the other opponents somewhere that it can’t go.
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Remember this "RATS" Multiply and I bet a high count will be after this video with this it gives out the information that MANY in WT had no clue about
@@farmcat9873lol
Def considering getting it now 😂
"it's good at ruining other people's fun"
the average war thunder player: "That's why I'm here"
when the doohickey first came out the radar allowed you to see the dot of everyone no matter where they were on the map, making it probably one of the best utility planes in the game
-VTE-Jblack_
Love to see you cover the Japanese premium BF-109, dollar for dollar the best SL grinding investment in the game.
It used to be better too
@@russell33313 yeah, when they pushed it from 2.3 to 3.0 I was kinda disappointed, went from clubbing seals to only dropkicking babies XD
I use the American premium 109.
Another good money maker is the f-105-D blowing up bases for 10k a piece 2 bases at a time without premium
I remember like the second match I had in this plane, the game came down to me and another Sea Vixen vs. two Ariete's. As you can imagine, we decided to just strap on bombs and go after bomb targets while the Ariete's could do nothing but continue to fail at catching us. It was a very boring end to the match.
The ugliest? Other than the cockpits, it looks cool imo. If you're looking for the ugliest jet, Lightning exsits in the same tech tree.
Lightning. > Sea vixen
@@TransportSupremo Lightning is the single ugliest jet I've ever seen. I have to replace my eyeballs every time I see that abomination.
@@Damian-03x3 sea vixen is worse fr fr
MiG-23s are pretty ugly
@@TransportSupremoincorrect idc how many sparrows u slap to it
Sea vixen was immensely fun for the longest time. After the last major missile rework sadly the missiles are pretty useless. Red tops used to kill reliably at around 2 to 2.5 km. Now you have to slip them into the target right off the rail.
this is one of those planes that I feel is the absolute horror at 8.7. "it's extremely good at ruining other people's fun"
i'm a g.91 r/3 player myself, and there is no worse feeling than ending a brilliant dogfight, about to get the shot, and then this thing appears on the radar 2.5km away... i hate it
however. 1100% bonus SL is very tasty
And having the saab 105 having to face this thing that is near 2x the speed and has radar and missles that are good at the same br which is unfair aswell as 8.7 faces 10.0 90% of the time is entirely unfair
@@Sten05 Sea Vixen is as overpowered as the f-104 in the sense that it is near impossible to kill in a down tier but is dogshit in an up tier except the Sea Vixen is incredibly easy to counter. It is unfair but also shit at the same time.
Bro the separate cockpit for the radar officer is so stupid
Imagine being stuck with sitting in that thing for 6 hours
Why don't you go back in time, ring up the Fleet Air Arm and tell them precisely that? Perhaps they will take notice in your infinite wisdom.
Before matches were made larger the f3h would get downtiered in with this thing all the time and I would actively target them because of how annoying I felt they were, now in the f3h I never even see these things and fear for the teammates I left behind..
swift F7 and Sea Vixen fighting like chicks trying to be the most undertiered rank 5 jet
Sea vixen is one of the best of many planes in the british tree, it's just easy to get kills with even in an uptier unless the enemy has flares, which very few do
0:14 the Sea vixen prototype was originally meant to have four 20 mm ADEN cannons in the nose, But they were removed on the production model for what ever reason (probably so that they could fit in the radar).
Fun fact the Sea Vixen uses the same radar as the F 3-D, the first American naval jet in its techtree
4:28 him just saying “ok.” In chat is the best
would be cool to see screenshots of the post-game stats page after every game, just for a second or two so i can pause and see roughly what kind of rewards id be expecting
Will do
@@SeekerHeadnice
Sea Vixen was my first missile kill when I joined Missile Thunder in my F-100D. Not long after that, I gave up missiles entirely for grinding in my F-100 and stuck to base bombing, since it was just more reliably profitable.
9:18 taking cruelty to a whole new level men....that was meeeeeaaaan.
Added this video to warch later and thought I might've found a cool new WT creator.
Luckily I was recommended an old joala video so I went to his uploads to see if he'd uploaded any new content. Saved me a lot of time.
Lol, bye 👋
I struggle to get kills with it, mostly because it doesn't have a gun. The missiles are okay, but they struggle to hit a target that is moving AT ALL even if they are just slightly moving faster than you in a straight line. The gun problem though. I have been in SO many situations where if I had a gun I would have gotten the kill. So many pointless dogfights because I can't do anything about it. I don't play War Thunder anymore so it isn't a problem anymore.
This plane can actually dogfight 1v1. The thing is that nobody expects that and you get limited time to kill them once they overshoot. Very satisfying ☺️
If Red Tops bore you, take a loadout of unguided rockets. People don't expect it and it's really fun
The sea vixen is one of those vehicles which is both not fun to play and not fun to play against (cough cough half the 9.7 roster)
It's a disgusting P2W plane with some 20G IR missiles at 8.3. Snail business as usual.
@@IvanTre6 G, but yeah. Although I enjoy it. Easy plane to get easy kills in. Like you said if you have more than 3 functional brain cells it’s pretty much p2w. Just the way I like it. Also it’s 8.7. Know before you say anything, just sayin.
@@IvanTre
16G
8.7
Not P2W
This plane is the biggest reason why I avoid 9.0 most of the time. It's not even the plane's performance itself, it's just that you can never afford to have your tail towards it. I find the F11 to be an alright counter, but in such fights the Sea Vixens go for the undershoot and pop a Red Top.
the 9.0 premium f86 for japan also has the same sl multiplier and i think its a way better aircraft, dont think u can get it anymore tho
it is as a GE premium
@@franken0702 All Premiums are GE premiums.
@@RedTail1-1 F4-S, MiG23-ML, F1C-200, A6-E TRAM I could go on you know...
@@RedTail1-1packs véhicules? Event premium vehicles? Battle pass vehicles?
Yeah, it really has a flight model that is too good to be true sometimes. The Red Top though, that thing can get lost on an empty parking lot.
I have it and it's fun to play most of the time.
I can remember a while ago i was getting chased by a sea vixen and it was 6km away and i could hear the missile sound and i looked behind and it was right there next to me. i thought i was safe but the missile almost got me. from that day on i always look back every 30 seconds.
Mig-17as also has 1140% multiplier
0:11 you have made enemies with a great number of british mains for that take, asymmetrical cockpits are true enlightenment.
To be fair it was a steaming pile of a hot take... goes on about how bad it is and how bad the RedTop is... all while he launches 4 and they all score kills...
Comprehension problems from FallenPhoenix86
@@SeekerHead
Nah son, comprehension problems from yourself and you can't deal being called on it.
If your take from the video is sea vixen bad and red tops suck, idk what to tell you man. that’s not at all what I said. I recommend rewatching the video
@@SeekerHead
You list all the limitations of the jet/missile and then deliver a class in how to use it effectively... somehow using it in the rather obvious manner in which it is effective is "Ratty".
Jesus.. I was thinking "hm, fine plane for tech tree plane, as long as it's great for grinding"
You: says "it's only a rank 5 premiu..."
Me: gagged with my tea spoon while drinking Richard Tea
Its worth noting the red top is all aspect against anything with an afterburner within 2.5km
as a missile I can confirm, I have got no idea where I am
Thanks Seek, might have to pick this meme plane up in the next sale :D
I love the way the sea vixen looks haha, but I'm British so maybe that's why. It's ugly cute.
The missile knows where it is at all times! It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is - whichever is greater - it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviation to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
This thing has insane energy retention at 1000kmh, so if you have an f104 on your tail I just turn until my team mates rock up.
I think it looks awesome. The offset cockpit is very Gerry Anderson! F.A.B. Vixen!
Wtf 7:31
“I hope someone nuts in your soup”
“Thanks”
this has got to be one of my favorite planes in wt
This was very helpful, thanks mate! I kept losing fights in this thing and you've given me some good ideas to run with. You mentioned it is not a good aircraft to grind out the British tree. Which would you say is?
It’s not a terrible option per se, but you’re limited by the lack of gun, it caps out quickly. Unfortunately the Brits really don’t have any great options in my opinion for grinding, I wouldn’t buy any of the expensive packs unless they’re on sale
@@SeekerHead Thanks for getting back to me. yes, I don't know if you mentioned it in the video but the Vixen does not do well when up-tiered. It can't really compete without countermeasures or guns against some of those more accurate missiles and maneuverable planes. If there are no other options for Britain in the premium selection, then I won't bother with them and just plod through with the tech tree ones. Patriotism does however preclude me from taking your advice from another video (I believe it was your Tornado one), where you said something to the effect of 'the best way to get through top tier Britain is to pick another nation.'
I think the Vixen is gorgeous 🤷♂
When that thing chases me i turn my engine off and they never get me idk if that makes sense but works for me
crazy to think that it was 8.3 for the longest time
Doesn't the red top have limited all aspect capability?
Yes, less so 12 o’clock head ons but 1-2 11-10 can happen at close ranges. then ofc 3-9. This is for hot targets by though. afterburners and such
@@SeekerHead Ok
Just curious about what you think of this thing (look wise) vs the other British doritto aircraft in game: The gloscter Javelin. .3 of a BR lower, worse missiles and 4 adens in the wings
I hate fighting this thing in the skyhawk. Even though I have better armament, it sucks to fight against.
The a4 skyhawk is worst plane, the ayit is good.
Arguing with chat in the city battle can all be explained by 'skill issue' Its funny arguing with these people because the lack of experience.
Even shadow nerfs or shadow buffs are a hard topic sometimes because these people need the patch notes and if it aint on the patch notes they think it isn't true.
Sea Vixen? More like Wheelchair Vixen
Now they have buffed red tops it’s actually quite good
I think off center cockpit is kind of cool actually
all aspect inside of 1.5k as well, they can head on pretty reliably
The J35A also has a 1140% SL reward
Can you revisit it ? Cuz i rlly am lost on how to get kills with it nowadays
glad to make a guest appearance as the mig 15 lol
A fantastic sim plane
wow, this team colors, are u colorblind or u just prefer those colors?
i think its fun but i am pretty biased because i like watching missiles zip around
The missle doasnt know where it is at any time
These are usually free food for my F4D
they actually fucked the missiles up, i dont even know how i hit enemies anymore
I cannot get these missiles to work
How do you slave your missles to radar
Another certified seek banger
❤️
When i heard his voice i legit tought i missclicked on a spookston video
Please make a video on the f4f it got a br decrease and an agile eagle buff a while ago and it’s my fav plane
But it knows where it isn’t
Mig17AS also has the 1140% SL :D
Please make a video on the Mig-21S (R-13-300)
Nice title for the video Hey, that sounds like a majority of the WT players......
i’m gonna buy this thing next sale 😈😈😈
I pretty sure the premium draken has the higher sl gain at 1200% with premium I think but I could be wrong then again
The F-86-35 also has 1140% iirc.
super op in arcade goes against sub sonic jets at 8.0
Did I really see someone saying the 9B was better than the Red Top? Jesus christ...
The beloved fat man.
No way, I was in your first game. My user is BadgerJaguar in the sabre and I died instantly, nice game tho.
Idk how but I’ve consistently been placed with 10.0 jets in the sea vixen (and at one point, even a mig23?)
The javelin and harriers play almost similar to this het
if I'm on a 1v1 with a sea vixen I troll them by turning my engine off and just letting them chase me.. frustrating them in the process xD
Oh no!! Britain gets something thats good if not overpowered like every other nation! Oh no!
thanks for the video joob
This plane is literally one of the worst I have ever played. People always know how to dodge missiles when I fire them, and even doing Mach, people easily keep getting hits on me.
Absolutely NOT worth buying.
i recommend trying to launch from closer range
i would never say its the ugliest, for me it looks the best, i had this plane as a test drive, and i really thought that jet tier is as easy as that, but then the trial ended and it took me 2-4 months to get to jet tier, and its the hardest time ive had in my life :D sea vixen is playing the game on a easy mode
Excuse me, No vixen hate please. How dare you call her ugly! #JusticeforVixen
Hi seeker you were in my pals game and you got a sweet 3 kill game
Shut up with that description gaijin already wont give us our experimental aircraft that acc flew, and the sea vixen is gorgeous my dad painted one zebra camo when he was in boarding school in the 1970s
CAUTION: DO NOT SEARCH THE NAME ON GOOGLE, FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY
Red tops make me sad
Also the Lightning F.53 . Mig 17AS SHENYANG F5 G91 R/4 Ariete G91 R/4 have 1140% SL
Yes, I said it’s the highest % + multiplier possible. Not that it’s the only one with that %. 🤙🏻
@@SeekerHead oooh my bad G
Am I the only one who thinks the sea vixen looks good?
How did you get the radar lock? I tried everything to change the radar scope and nothing helped. I'm usually using the settings wheel on Y by defoult. Thanks :)
Just bind “lock radar on target” to a easy to reach button
Just turn Engine off.
SEEK why cant i see the japanese bf 109 video
Say it "private"😮
I had issues with it, I privated it after 1 minute
Using the ariete since the new silverlions buff is amazing i average 200k for a ace wich is very easy in the Ariete
Should've been TT
Why dont people like the sea vixens looks
theres a pay to win game braking plane at every fukin BR and past f5c 90% of teams are pay to win that crash taking off.... i was 2 years in the f104 with no flairs and now im f5e and still have to deal with pay to win 4 missiles mig21 or worse f4s with 6 missiles that can be shot from 6 km and i have 2 that can be shot at 2km also fight mig 23 mlt pay to win with missile that flaires do notthing and u cant dodge.... so now im building up just to have a pos stock f8 or whatever stock to get confronted with f16 to start the pain and ruin game ladder.............
i hate this plane with all my heart, it's just a low skill plane that just requires you to target already slow enemies (wich probably got slow because they are engaging a dogfight, making this the ultimate dogfight breaker, in a br where dogfights are still doable) and/or distracted enemies at range of up to 2 km sometimes even more if they have gravity by their side; and as a normal plane all you can do against these shitters, is just try to stick to their tail until they get bored and run away like rats, or in the worst of cases, turn off your engine about 10 secconds BEFORE they are on your six, wich ultimately brings to your demise as other enemies will of course try to pick you off, and your engine won't be turning on anytime soon... i can at least say it's so funny piloting a canberra at 2+ km altitude and turning off all engines just to leave a tailing sea vixen with the will to kill you, but no actual means other than ramming you
Yak38 but not yak38 plane
So using it properly by maintaining your speed and not being an idiot is "Rat like behaviour"...
It’s ratty because nobody can catch you, so you run away until they have to fight someone else then get on their 6. and since you have 16G missies they’re forced to stop their other fight and completely turn into you. It’s just annoying
@@SeekerHead
I could say the same thing about a properly flown P-51 vs a Zero... its just a case of not being an idiot that plays to the other guys strengths over your own.
It’s not the same concept
@@SeekerHead
It kinda is...
It really isn’t. If you’re in a P51 you can play speed/energy without running away until the enemy turns around. With the sea vixen you have no choice but to run until the enemy has to do something else, and you always can because it’s ridiculously faster than everything. Then when they’re now caught up in something else, just your presence of being there forces them to have to disengage what they’re doing to counter the 16G missile. There is no running away from the sea vixen or leading the other opponents somewhere that it can’t go.
i won a dodgefight against a mig23ml on my 6 with it so i'd say it's pretty potent (i have a video about it)
That is possibly the worst mig23 pilot I have ever seen