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Ranking the Bosses of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance from Worst to Best
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Hey everyone, in today's video Alex ranks the bosses of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance based on their quality from worst to best! As always, we hope you enjoy the list. If you have an opinion make sure drop it in the comments down below. Lastly remember to like and subscribe!
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0:00-0:29 - Intro
0:29 - 11
1:14 - 10
2:05 - 9
3:44 - 8
5:17 - 7
6:53 - 6
7:59 - 5
9:35 - 4
11:40 - 3
13:26 - 2
15:50 - 1
19:40 - Outro
I respectfully disagree with your take that Sam wasn’t a coherent character.
The reason why Sam switches sides so easily is that he’s having a hard time believing in anything. After being defeated by Armstrong, he’s just accepted that the violence is the only thing he really cares about. It doesn’t matter who’s side he’s on anymore.
I think his goal wasn’t ever to make Raiden feel bad about killing, but the opposite. To bring out Jack the Ripper, and make Raiden lose his moral philosphy, his identity, just like Sam did.
In the end, he let Wolf give Raiden the sword because he didn’t harbor any loyalty for Armstrong. He didn’t care which side won. ”Let history decide who is right”
well put
Facts
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@@monsoon1529 🤡
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correction: you actually don’t have to use an emp grenade on monsoon. i didn’t even know you could, in fact. if you perfect parry one of his attacks (signaled by an automatic counterattack) you immediately stun him and get free damage
Ah, thats what it was! I did this once but didn't know what triggered it. Cool to know
On the flipside, you can use an EMP grenade on him? Huh. Never knew.
You can also use his sai on him
For that matter you can actually hit his head with a regular attack . Although with that being said it feels like luck wether or not you actually hit it
In the middle of the boss I tried using a emp grenade but couldn’t aim and throw it fast enough
I don't think it's possible to dislike Armstrong's fight
i found it hard as shit but as soon as i beat him i was sad it was over
Phase 2 is god boring on harder game modes
You cant . He is hard but every single times i lost i never felt rage (unlike other bosses like sam) . Every attack is perfect except the grab . He is not just the best MGRR but one of the best bosses i have ever faced
Unless it's Jetstream Sam dlc, great foght dont get me wrong, just frustrating
@@cat_the_e i am speaking about the story one , on the dlc he is really frustrating and annoying
I like Sundowner's fight, aside from Armstrong he's the only boss that requires you to use blade mode with precision instead of just slashing at a hitbox
Sundowner?
@@taktika4764 Woops, Monsoon is definitely the wrong boss
Honestly i like sundowners fight bc the second phase is really fun(sort of biased considering i love the ost) and it’s relatively easy to get to
@@Unclearrain Bro my dumbass didn't know there was a second phase so I thought the shield was a defensive maneuver
Or you can wait until it’s an horizontal slice needed to get him or wait until he charges at you with his shields
Another thing to consider for the bosses and something that makes Armstrong unique is that you slice and dice most bosses to pieces after their battle. However, Armstrong is defeated by slice his heart and ripping out his power source like you would do to most basic enemies. You literally put down the final boss like any basic enemy, and this shows how strong you are!
Same case with Sam, who destroyed you at the start, but later on he relied on you to finish his task.
I also like that it counts as a zandatsu.
Technically Sam is the only boss you don't slice up since with Armstrong you slice up his chest
@@vicentegongora1178 actually you dont remove his heart, he dies like that because of the respect from raideb
Sam is definitely the top for me, just because its a classic boss battle,
No Bs Moonsoons, no mini gekko, no shields, not too much qte, and no nanopaste/healing mid fight.
Just Raiden, Sam and the Sunset
and the soil
“No moonsoon telling me about fucking among us”-Max0r
Yknow i saw a comment similiar to this
@@thebestcerealbrand7345 eventually you knock his sword out of hands and just starts punching you like a heccing yakuza
@@gunnyisgoodboi4846 lol
I legit didnt know how to parry in this game till the Monsoon fight, I used the slide attack as a dodge up till that point. I couldn't beat Monsoon that way, and eventually learned that I could parry (although I got very close to beating him)
I think this happened to a lot of people actually, I didn’t figure it out till pretty late in my firsts playthrough also. Kinda unintuitive to piece together
it took me until my sec play though to know how to perry more than one time in a row
I got through monsoon the original monsoon fight by basically cheesing it with how much repair nano paste he gives you and ended up stuck on the repeat fight with him
same :D every friend of mine was "how did you kill bladewolf? its made so you learn it!" and I just said that I slide like a maniac, which helped me with metal gear excelsus.
The exact same thing happened to me
I love monsoon’s voice lines too. There’s just so much passion in the way he talks and yells during the fight.
''YOUR MEMES BEEN CUT OFF JACK!''
If you listen to the codec calls, it tells you about how excelsus was built to counter cyborgs with overwhelming force, hence the massive size.
@@soloamaro5605 no, that's Metal Gear Ray
@@soloamaro5605 indeed
Wish Sundowner had a bigger health bar, possibly more damage. Aside from that? His moveset is great, neat enough gimmick. The bigger health box would improve him a lot.
Good list, man.
Now, the real question: which boss has the best theme?
I vote for The Stains of Time, but A Stranger I Remain, Red Sun, and It Has To Be This Way are kinda in a 3 way tie for runner up for me. Real tough question
@@Cytonox Mine's probably The Hot Wind Blowing, Red Sun or The Only Thing I Know For Real. Just real bangers.
It’s a shame not as many people know The Hot Wind Blowing due to it being hidden away in a dlc everybody probably made it through
I think the worst thing about sundowner is that his whole gimmick is optional. You don’t have to break the shields to beat him and by doing that won’t see his second phase. I didn’t even know about his second phase until I saw it in this video.
It also doesn’t help that he really only has 90 health since he falls off the building at around 10%
Great video, so much better than the garbage version of this that theDeModcracy made. Unlike him, I can tell you understand character action games. Earned yourself a new sub!
I AGREE. That video by demodcracy was cancer
@@alexandrumarin8981 but we can agree that senator armstrong is good
@@averymusicalperson bruh
@@Arunnejiro are you saying he isn’t good?
Bro I still can’t believe he said this game is mediocre. You kidding me? Metal Gear Rising Revenageance imo is easily the best Metal Gear game and one of the literal best video games of all time! Seriously, this game is a masterpiece! And to people who don’t agree that’s just their personal preference, but it’s pretty much a perfect game to people who really love these kinds of tough hack and slash action adventure games.
Wayyyyy better than the list the DeModcracy’s list, you love to see it 👏
we try our best🤙
One aspect you missed about Monsoon’s boss fight is that it teaches you to parry. I bet 80% of players didn’t know how to parry until they got to Monsoon. You could use evading easily up until then, but when Monsoon lobs those smoke grenades, it’s all over. The fight literally forces you to learn how to parry and helps you by doing so. Take Sundower for example, he’s supposed to teach you how to be precise with blade mode, but you can evade his shield moves so who cares? You don’t have to learn! And when you wake up fighting Armstrong you suddenly realize you cannot defend yourself from him lunging pieces of EXCELSUS at you. Monsoon however forces you to learn his niche, unlike Sundowner.
@Big Crunch idk wether to think of you as a fucking idiot for not parrying at any point in the span of the game or call you a highly skilled madman for the exact same reason
Blade wolf?
for me i had to learn how to parry to get past bladewolf lol
@@redsun832 fr
I think 80% of people didn’t play the tutorial or the tutorial VR missions then
Only thing I disagree with here is your opinion on Sam's theme. I think it is great.
sec best boss for me when I die I feel like I played bad not that I got one shot
Sams theme is amazing, but for me there are just better songs. Rules of Nature, Stains of Time, It has to be this way, Collective Consciousness are songs I prefer so I get what this guy means
Yeah plus he doesn't even understand Sam as a character.
15:28
Fun fact, he actually has another line of dialogue that he says here sometimes.
I’m not sure if it’s caused by something or random, but sometimes he says “Do as you please.” with a threatening tone like he isn’t scared of death (which makes more sense)
The “Stop! Stop it!” Line is actually triggered by fully using parrying to get through quickly and not using EMPs
@@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo I’ve heard lots of rumors about this but it’s not true. You can kill him the same way twice and he sometimes says different things
An interesting thing to note from the monsoon fight at 15:28: Monsoon actually has two different lines of dialogue here, one is the "stop it!" that you showed in the video, but there is an alternate line where he says "do as you please." Personally, I almost always get the second one, so I'm not sure if theres something specific that triggers it or if its entirely random
I’m pretty sure it has to do with the time you take to kill him or the amount of damage you take. If you really trash him I think he’s more freaked out but if it was a more even fight he’s calmer about it. I’ve never seen confirmation of this, but it kinda makes sense so I just assumed that was the case
UPDATE: I did some research into this and apparently it’s random, tested by reloading the checkpoint before the blademode finisher section a few times after the same fight
@@Cytonox if i remember correctly the second one is supposed to happen if you use emp grenades
c-b: do as you please
a-s: STOP, STOP IT
Basically, you style on him so hard you beat the nihilism out of him
@@godricktheminecrafted3113 That's wrong though. I beat him and the entire level on S-rank and he still said "Do as you please" so it's pretty safe to say that those two lines of his are random.
@@angryinternetperson6629 I’m pretty sure he says that if you don’t use the emp grenades
i think just a couple simple changes could make sundowner's fight much better.
make him actually "fuckin' invincible" when he his shield isn't broken, forcing you to cut it down to deal any form of damage
give him a larger health pool
have him fight mano-a-mano when his shield goes down
or even better,make him invincible and have more shields.
Grammar
@@torterra1826 punctuation
@@ungabunga1106 Life
@@torterra1826 death
funny thing about excelsus, it's not actually a metal gear, in one of the codec calls you find during the fight it's confirmed it's called Metal Gear Excelsus just so it sells better
$5 to whoever leaves the 100th comment about Metal Gear Excelsus not being a metal gear as cited by the codec entry. Let the games begin!
Current number: 73
I didn't knew that, but it makes sense. Great video, for me Monsoon is top 1 an Armstrong top 2, but i agree with all the others
Metal gear excelsus is not a metal gear it's a mining machine and had metal gear added to sell better as cited in the codec
They trample on buildings and commit property damage while middle fingering civillians
excelsus, more like excel sus
For Excelsus, it's actually explained in a Codec call that it is only has the label "Metal Gear" as part of a PR (Public Relations) thing. It is also meant to be used against cyborgs using overwhelming firepower (excluding Raiden, because he is a badass)
@Game Dude I mean, no Metal Gears in the series have character development, unless you include the weapon in Peacewalker based on the Boss. Also. I believe they are more of an ant, which fits into the boss song
Monsoon had a hard childhood as the song kind of says that, so when he says "stop it!" Or "do as you please." Might be a throwback to when he was a child and had a hard childhood. As he let's you kill him and also goes into peace after the fight. Truly implying that he was ready to go and never feared death.
I know I'm late to this but I'm pretty sure it's explained in the codecs during Excelsus' fight that it was created specifically for head to head combat and it was given the name 'Metal Gear' specifically for fear tactics. They also explain many other advantages that it would have in a warzone; buildings in the way? Just walk over them, regular cyborgs that are commonly used for war? Just watch them try to destroy this thing. Excelsus could literally enter a warzone and destroy everything easily, Raiden was probably the only person in the world who could destroy it single-handedly just because of how insanely powerful he is and even then, he had to slowly tear it apart piece by piece and even use its own sword against it in the end to destroy it.
The sai makes most bosses so easy. You can just latch onto the hammerhead and hit it close up without doing any platforming or using any missiles, if you stun a GRAD and then use regular attacks while waiting for the sai to recharge its the perfect time for you to just stun it again and it can't fight back, it stuns Monsoon so you can hit his head instead of perfect parrying or using an EMP grenade, it goes through Sundowner's shield, they're broken
I really gotta try that thing sometime, I’ve always been partial to Sundowners massive ridiculous scissors for the insane charge attack damage they deal. Good stuff to know
@@Cytonox Yeah they're really good. Also in VR missions 9 and 15 there are enemies near ledges you can latch onto with the sai for shortcuts if you want better times to get the HF Longsword
Maybe the sai is good but the fox blade with its special ability and a maxed-out murasama in combo with ripper mode using infinite wig B (the electrolyte one) makes the game into an easy mode basically (not counting the first chapter, that one you can’t have your advantages)
Sundowner's pincer blades are absolutely fucking broken, who the HELL thought, "Hm yes, let's make giant scissors a weapon and also give them the highest damage in the whole series"?!
Fuck perfect parries, I'm on that Bloodlust Build
Not sure if this is well known, but you can basically cheese almost the entire Khamsin fight by doing a mid air heavy attack (the spinny wheel move) right before he attacks and then immediately follow up with three light attacks. You’ll stay in the air during his attack and almost always dodge it entirely.
The Hot wind blowing is honestly up as one of the top 3 themes in the game. I will die on this hill.
I definitely think it’s underrated
I may not personally agree with a lot of this list, but it was an entertaining watch and fun to see another perspective on the fights.
Him:”the fight constantly changes from Armstrong’s and Raiden’s favor” Very hard mode Senator fight: Well yes,but actually no
I remember one time playing the excelsus fight in the 360 version of the game and getting knocked out of his arena entirely and then I could kinda just run wherever but if I jumped the floor rose with me so I was effectively able to fly and see the entire area and excelsus off in the distance. I think I still have a picture of it somewhere on my phone but regardless it’s one of my favorite memories of this game because of how weird it was.
We require this data immediately, for research purposes and memes.
I despise Sundowner. It's because it took me an astonishing 8 hours (40ish minutes per run) of combined gameplay to S tier him and the entirety of his level on revengeance. You have to hold back so much to:
Not break his shields too fast so you can take out two helis so they dont trouble you in the 2nd phase
Not kill him before he can spawn atleast 1 set of enemies
Like no damage doesnt even get you an S tier because he just dies too fast that I often found myself switching to the wooden blade so he can just live a bit longer.
That sounds absolutely miserable, I was having enough trouble letting him live to get enough footage for the video let alone S ranking him
@@Cytonox oh it was. If you got hit during the first phase no biggie, just reset the fight. But if you got even as much as 2% dealt to yourself during the 2nd phase you literally had to start out from the begining of the entire level since each of his phases has a checkpoint...
i really hoped that when monsoon died his body parts would lose their magnetic power and he'll fall apart like a lego game
Great video! I was looking for someone that had done this and I wasn’t disappointed. Although I would have liked it even more if you ranked the Sam DLC boss fights too (MG Ray, Blade Wolf and Armstrong), even though they are very similar to the ones in the main game, they still have some differences (specially the Armstrong one) and they are played differently thanks to Sam’s more patience and heavy attack based move set. It would have been very interesting to see which of the two variants of the boss fight you prefered (which I guess would be the originals but still, you get the point).
Mistral is underrated af. Mechanically complex and the arena changes with each phase. I also like how she actually bothers to counter blade mode, unlike most other bosses.
The dwarf gekkos are definitely a bit annoying though. I don't mind them being there, but I wish they were less aggressive and wouldn't drop healing units. Would make S ranks less infuriating but normal fights more challenging.
Good video. My list would be
10. Sundowner:
EXTREMELY UNDERWHELMING. It's very, VERY easy. The only thing that could be kinda difficult is to cut the shields, BUT YOU CAN LITERALLY SKIP THAT PART. For a Character as treathening and important in the story as Sundowner, you would expect a much better fight, but they gave us this. This fight being so simple and easy would make sense if it was at the start of the game. BUT IT'S LITERALLY ONE OF THE LAST BOSSES. It's not even fun because of how easy it is.
9. Metal Gear EXCELSUS:
It's a decent fight, but it doesn't come close to the other ones. All the attacks are repetitive and boring. They are just "parry the shit out of this thing, then hit it" or "Run, then hit". At least it can be challenging in VH or Revengeance difficulty. Oh, and the vocals of the OST only play when you're Zandatsu-ing it. That shit made the fight a lot worse for me at least.
8. Metal Gear RAY:
It's an epic fight, but can be kinda slow and boring in high difficulties because of how weak Raiden is at this point of the story. At least it's kinda difficult on higher difficulties. In revengeance, just one hit of this massive machine can kill you, making you start the fight all over again. Again, is not as near as great as the others but is a good start to the game.
7. Wolf:
I actually really like this fight, but i gotta say, it's actually nothing special. Is just a mini boss put halfway through the level so the player can learn how to parry. And that's it. It can be actually very difficult the first time you play of course, specially beacuse the difficulty of the game spikes when you reach this fight, but other than that is probably the easisest fight in the game (at least is more fun than Sundowner's fight).
6. Mistral:
Your first real boss fight in the game. It has 3 phases, each one of them with different moves, so repetitive attacks are not a problem here. My personal issue with this fight is that it isn't really spectacular, and it doesn't has a lot of weight in the story. Sure, Mistral's death is brutal and it's really cool to fight her in the burning refinery, but damn. It's not as spectacular as Armstrong's fight, and it doesn't have the weight that Sam's fight has (you don't know Mistral from anything. She's just a french chick that gives you a short uninteresting talk before her fight, then you kill her). And in terms of difficulty, the little Gekkos can be annoying in VH or Reevengeance but that's it. It's pretty meh and boring.
5. Armstrong (Sam DLC):
This is, BY FAR, the hardest boss. I can kill every boss on Revengeance difficulty, even no damaging most of them, and i still struggle to beat this guy on Hard. He does a lot of damage. He has A LOT of range. A TON of life. And he nevers give you a break. Really a hard boss. I enjoy it tho, and it's one of my favourites bosses, but i still think the other bosses are better. Really nice and fun boss nonetheless.
4. Khamsin (from now on, these are the top tier bosses):
Really fun and enjoyable boss. It's like MG RAY boss fight but in reverse. You don't chase the mech, NOW HE CHASES YOU! His attacks can be predictable, and most of them are parryable, but they still can be tricky to avoid, specially because he executes them in succession. Also, this shit is amazing. There's something really cool about this fight. Maybe it's the god tier soundtrack (my favourite in the game, i wish the lyrics kicked in earlier tho), or the really cool animations, or the fact that you're being chased by a big mech wielding a giant turbo axe controlled by a Guile looking soldier while he gives you speeches about freedom. I don't know man. It's just really cool and it maybe even be my favourite boss. Also, this boss could be as hard as DLC Armstrong if he didn't give you so many heal items.
3. Sam:
Just before the final boss fight, you have one last encounter with your rival. A duel to death between the two most skilled swordsmen in the Metal Gear universe (sorry Gray Fox). This is the fight with the most weight in the game, besides Armstrong, and besides, it's fucking awesome. It's really dinamic and requires you to be focused, because he loves to throw you a ton of attacks and counterattacking yours, so you need to choose really well the moment to get agressive, and the moment to get defensive. Amazing fight.
2. Armstrong:
This fight is really fucking epic. It's the climax of the game, where you finally face the big boss (no pun intended) of the game, and you both fight like animals, throwing punching at each others to determine who's right. The fight actually isn't difficult at all. In Revengeance it can be hard if you got no heals, but if that's the case you just need to survive and drop his healthbar to 150%, and then you geat a lot of cures. Still, even if it's not really hard, it's fucking awesome. And the cutscenes before and after this fights are the best ones in the game, and maybe even in the whole game industry.
1. Monsoon:
The best one. Period. If Wolf was the boss in charge of forcing the player to learn to parry, this boss is the one that checks how much you really have learnt. This boss fight is the real wall that determines if you can move forward to the game or keep stuck until you get better. This fight requires you to do a lot of things. Zandatsuing, parrying, dodging, and even throwing objects, all with a kickass soundtrack in the background. Also, i said Mistral was uninteresting because she was just a hot french girl who you barely knew, and felt just like an obstacle more than a character. Well, Monsoon is the opposite. Even if they never give you real context on who he is, he still makes a great job introducing himself and being a memorable character. Those cutscenes are just exquisite, like the man himself would say.
Cool list, fun to compare to my own. I also don’t understand how someone would dislike Monsoon, he’s definitely hard for people who aren’t good at the game (my friend tried fighting him at my house once and got pissed at how often he had to joystick jiggle) etc, but if you know what you’re doing he’s totally awesome. Also Stains of Time goes hard as hell
@@Cytonox I agree. I learned how to time my parrys in this fight. And i absolotely agree that stains of time bangs to fucking hard
Monsoon was really annoying for me because I didn't learn how to parry until my second playthrough, and the stunning is the worst in this fight
I think the reason sundowner is so easy is because he always preys on people weaker than him, so when he’s met with Raiden he doesn’t stand much of a chance
my list would be
10. mistral (fuck mistral)
9-3. all the other ones
2. jetstream sam (hes awesome)
1. monsoon-literally the perfect boss fight hes so fun, has a banger theme, is difficult and cool as fuck
The theory of "It has to be this way" actually being raidens theme makes a lot of sense once you put extensive thought into it. With every other characters theme, you'll notice it almost seems as if they would be singing the lyrics in reference to themselves. Mistral talking about "finding what I was looking for" or Sam not truly knowing what he's fighting for anymore, and even Sundowners beliefs that machines and war will prevail. Collective Consciousness makes more sense as the senators theme as it talks about controlling the masses as you'd expect from a corrupt political figure such as himself. Raiden realizing that both him and Armstrong are fostering eachothers violence without being able to stop without stopping thier own mission makes perfect sense when looking into the lyrics of the song.
this and the fact that collective consciousness plays in sam's fight against armstrong, instead of it has to be this way.
it's not even a theory and there are 2 voices in the song, implying it's BOTH their perspectives
My list:
9. MG Excelsus
8. Sundowner
7. Mistral
6. Khamsin
5. Bladewolf
4. MG Ray
3. Monsoon
2. Sam
1. Armstrong
The best part about the Blade Wolf DLC is that Blade Wolf sleeps whenever he goes idle.
You know the game's got an amazing soundtrack when you are too busy singing along and have to re-watch parts to hear what you said haha
For monsoon I never got the “stop it stop it!” I always got “go ahead, do your worse!” So that’s surprising
Overall great video, surprisingly underrated. Your choices are almost 1:1 with mine, my only difference being that I'd swap Mistral and Blade Wolf - the Dwarf Gekkos were a bit of a pain in the ass to micromanage, but I'm more of a one-on-one fight kinda guy, so the difference in choice is understandable.
Also quick sidenote; you can also use Monsoon's Sai to immediately stun him once he enters his immunity phases after his Lorentz force throws! (By hitting the heavy attack button at a distance while locked onto him.)
Although I see you're a fan of the *Fuckin' Invincible* blades, which is a beyond respectable choice.
Glad you liked the video! Thats a fun little tidbit about the Sai, I had no idea you could do that either. It’s little things like that that make this game so cool, it’s like what I was talking about with Armstrong having a massive well of hidden QTE’s
Metal Gear Exelceus isn't actually a metal gear. Codec call downright says it was only called one for marketing purposes with it.
just a fun fact I felt if comment
That is a neat fact, the codec calls are full of cool info like that if you actually hear em all. Super impressive just how much dialogue they wrote, probably knowing full well very few people would ever listen to it. I heard a handful but haven't caught all of em yet.
Edit: Looked more into what you said and it's apparently also a joking jab at people who said Metal Gear Rising wasn't a true Metal Gear game and thought it just stole the name for marketing purposes, lol. Clever gag there
3:54 according to lore EXCELSUS was only given the metal gear title to sell better which I find funny. Also did you know you can parry EXCELSUS's giant sword.
Monsoon is definitely my favorite member of the winds of the destruction, but his fight has way to many slow bits that hurt the flow of the fight. I think they should of removed the trash wheel from it completely, it’s unbelievably easy to avoid and it just feels like pointless padding. The part when he throws vehicles at you goes on for to long and it’s way to easy to run away from it. Other then that his fight is perfect.
My biggest gripe so with the Armstrong fight is the part on top of the metal gear, trying to no damage him is nearly impossible because of that.
3:09 You can actually get 3 nanopastes at the beginning of the fight, One is inside a box near the stairs where raiden goes to continue the main game, the other two are closer to the steps inside the building (You collected one, but the 3rd is on the other direction)
15:04 The move that he uses in this ifase is actually pretty easy to parry but if you dont parry it then say goodbye to a GOOD PART OF YOUR HEALTH
Just so you're aware, Boris mentions that metal gear excelsus is not actually a metal gear and that calling it that is just a PR stunt
I think Monsoon being so high is interesting, also I used to think his name was "Monsoom"
Would've liked to see you fighting ray in very hard or revengeance to really showcase all of the places where you can use blade mode on him. Cutting his tail off is really cool.
I wish this game was on PS4 😭 the last time I played it was a WHILE man.
You can play it on ps4/ps5 if you get a psnow subscription and stream it, that’s how I recorded all my gameplay here actually
FINALLY someone who agrees that mg ray's boss fight is in the top 3, and tbh this has to be the first tier list that I can 100% agree on the placements of the bosses although the story reasons you stated for Sam's is kind of off in my opinion.
If you aren't aggressive/don't use an EMP in the Monsoon fight, he will say "Do as you please." Before you slice him to pieces.
13:32 finaly someone who understands monsoon is the best and 14:2 you may be my favorite mgr youtube dude
happy to hear it!
Cool vid man I would just personally swap sam with Ray but still great list
Imagine if Sundowner just blocks all your hits and you actually have to destroy the shields to progress, would be a really cool concept and would make a better use for his shields
The thing about Sundowner is that he plays into that Southern stereotype, as he is from Alabama; what he says and first seems to be is not what he truly is, as that is only a cover-up to the reverse - his bravado is meant to be hypocritical, he uses all these cheap tactics because he ain't actually that good at fighting, after all he runs away as long as he can because he fears you. Monsoon took Raiden head on, while Sundowner flew to the top floor where everything can come to his advantage - he has special gear in the form of those shields, helicopters, can call in extra enemies and he only pretends to having been beaten, to then surprise attack Jack with the Slider.
hey love your review of bosses rank and mostly agree but
when it comes to the Sam rank
I mostly agree at least with gameplay , the main problem with his gameplay is that in his in phase 3 he can randomly shoot rocks from almost any distance and often is straight up an guarantee hit, (I am speaking from experience after fighting Sam on very hard, no upgrades with default sword,) outside of that, I think his fight I think was basically perfect,
however you did write say about how you dislike his character, and while it is fine to have that opinion, I have to disagree with you on this,( it been a while since I played it so I might miss something)
my interpretation of Sam was that he was like Raiden at the start of the main story, Sam denies the truth of the matter and believes he can stop World Marshall and stop the system, however when at first loses to Armstrong and the proganda that both him and Monsoon feeds Sam(much like how they did to Raiden in Denver prior to the Monsoon boss fight) however what separates him from Raiden is the difference in choice, when Sam was confronted by the fact he might not be able to stop World Marshall and such, he decides to join Armstrong and loses his sense of honor only fighting for self improvement in combat because in his mind, there is no significant change that is possible, so might as well join them to improve himself in fighting the only the "he knows for real", because of this, he and monsoon tries to show something that Raiden denies that he enjoys killing and the violence, however unlike Sam, Raiden comprises himself, and decides he may enjoy the violence but he will use it for good and won't comprise his ideals of fighting for justice and improvement of the world even it hurts some people, unlike Sam. moving to the Sam boss fight, when sam fights Raiden it is said in one of the codex calls " it is a battle of the wills" so when Raiden says "I have more enough cause for killing you" Sam realizes he will prob lose(this is why he says "good I like that", as the reason Sam won in the first time was due to Raiden's self conflict. In the end Raiden is given his sword, due to being the one Sam always wanted to be, the one who can make a difference in the world as Raiden fights a representative of government
Tl;DR
Sam and Raiden have their separate hero journies. Sam fails his, Raiden succeeds at what Sam failed at, keeping his ideals while accepting the problem.
it all suppose to parallel the whole issue with 21th century politics never ending stagnation, Sam is the people who believe no change is possible and stays obediently behind the politics, Raiden is the opposite is willing to change while also understand he is not an ideal person and such
that at least my interpretation, I would like to see an opposing view if you disagree with me.
That sounds pretty on the money to me. I hadn’t considered Sam functioning more as a part of Raiden’s arc as much, which definitely makes more sense than considering his story in isolation. Thanks for the explanation so long after I put this video out
@@Cytonox Thx for responding, and I am glad we can agree.
I also should mention. The whole Sundowner being pussy and being weak makes sense to me, he type of guy who thinks he would be top of the food chain when in reality he would one of the first to fall, he would say "We aren't creating war were are just profiting off it" then the first time you meet he is trying to cause civil war in africa and wants to start war with pakistan, his dishonorable actions and false idenity is why he uses things that have almost no connection to him, for example using samurai armor and using "Sundowner" when in reality he is Alabamian.
I won't fill entire comment section with explaining characters, but if you are intersted I recommend MangaKamen and Meti for their character studies
I love sundowner’s monologue way more than monsoon’s, sundowner just has so much charismatic douchebag energy it’s great but monsoon’s monologue feels like pointless rambling at some points, and I always payed attention to sundowner’s monologue, but yeah, his fight is underwhelming, he deserved so much more, my poor boy
Man, FAVORITE GAME, nah this is the only cannon game in the series
I'd give Khamsin a spot up, only for one reason. His line delivery is very good, and really hammers his motive in through it alone.
Actually, if you were to S rabk Monsoon, he has one more chip of dialogue after you beat his face in. "Do as you please!" Monsoon straight up says that you're top dog, slice him down as you like. You beat him good, so it's only natural to give respect to the top dog. You can dig into this a lot more than me, so speak away.
Edit:
My ranking goes as following, not including Grad and Hammerhead since we know those are the worst bosses.
9: Sundowner -
Sundowner might be a great marmonger with his "Give War A Chance" mantra, but he feels like he's at the bottom of the Winds of Destruction. He's just a warmonger, that's it.
8: Khamsin -
Khamsin isn't very far from Sundowner, as his "faceless soldier" persona mirrors the warmonger Sundowner is. The only reason why I put him higher than Sundowner is his similarity to Blade Wolf. Both being ready made killing machines, one quite literally and the other being made into such over time. Plus, Khamsin might be angry at Blade Wolf for attempting to defy superiors, because soldiers should not do that, so he fights Blade Wolf.
7: Mistral -
Mistral has a similar explanation to your take, but only reason why she's lower down is because of the soundtrack, which spams the "Here I come!" line way too much.
6: MG Ray -
MG Ray's "Rules of Nature" theme might be one of the reasons it's in the middle. Developed not too much but enough that it seems like a good character if it weren't a fvcking nuke robot.
5: MG Excelsius -
So uh, Fun fact: MG Excelsius is given the MG title to sell better! This fun fact fits with Collective Consciousness which talks about living in ignorance and purchasing your happiness. (That was intended. This boss was carried by the soundtrack and soundtrack alone, which is a straight up banger.)
4: Bladewolf -
He's a metal dog, wanting to experience freedom because his creators didn't grant him such a luxury. Why wouldn't I love this character?
3: Monsoon -
Literally your reasons.
2: Jetstream Sam -
He's a being resembling cowboys and samurai if they were combined. His body may be human, but his identity refers to him as a being. Love this character.
1: Senator Armstrong -
Your reasons. Also the fact that Armstrong actually cares for his people, with his mantra of "Let people fight their own wars."
You spelled "rank" incorrectly
The point of mg excelsus was for a more anti cyborg role rather than a nuke carrying or anti mg role, wich is why excelsus's main weapons are big swords, and two massive laser cannons.
It sounds more like excelsus is actually an USSR war machine than a USA anti cyborg weapon.
@@hackerman203 I..it was created by world marshal in order to deal with the more prevalent threat of cyborgs such as raiden, I have no idea how it is even related to the ussr, and besides there are other ussr mg's such as rex but no excelsus isn't ussr
I agree with the MG Excelsus rank, but one thing that’s stated in game is the fact that it’s only called a “Metal Gear” for the sake of marketing (military companies might be more willing to buy and pay more for them) and inciting fear.
#10 - #2 - honestly doesn’t matter, your opinions are each as valid as one another
#1 - Senator Armstrong. It is illegal to disagree with this.
Finally I found someone who likes monsoon, also I like this tier list, keep on the good exquisite videos
I 100% agree with your take on Sundowner deserving a better fight, his actual fight was so disappointing to me I'd actually rank it as my least favorite unless you include the helicopter
Grad (boss vers) is still worse tho. But yea sundowner tbh is my favorite mgr character but God the fight was way to easy and easily cheesable even if you don't mean to cheese it. I Beat sundowner like 5 times because I knew there was a 2nd phase, but I kept killing his phase 1 and got all confused on how to activate phase 2 lmao
When I was fighting blade wolf i didnt know how you heal using electrolites yet so I Just tried to survive
5:37 spot. on.
I learnt really quickly that I could beat him by just running circles around him in ninja mode and going for quick cuts. Was it slow? Yes. But it was soooo easyyy. I'll have to go back and beat him 'the intended way', but since I've upgraded so much now, I expect a shoveover.
Funny thing about the "MG" Excelsus, It isn't classified as a Metal Gear, it's just called one for namesake.
The sundowner fight kind of disappointed me. Especially after the huge build up. But I really liked the music playing and the fact that I get to chop him up at the end
My list would be:
#11: Hammerhead
#10: Sundowner
#9: Grad
#8: Monsoon
#7: Metal Gear Excelsius
#6: Khamsin
#5: Mistral
#4: Sam
#3: Metal Gear Ray
#2: Blade Wolf
#1: Senator Armstrong
It's been a while so correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the whole point of excelsis was not to be effective, rather it was supposed to cause extreme collateral damage and be threatening. Though I may be mixing up a few games so take it with a pretty hefty pinch of salt.
I really disagree about monsoon, but I'm talking from a revengeance no hit perspective. In my first hard mode playthrough, he was a really solid B+ tier boss but the amount of randomness in his attacks is infuriating when trying to nohit.
The attack where he throws helicopters at you becomes inconsistent once you get to the third barrage so running is more reliable but it's not perfect, and if you skip phases by abusing the pincer blades his attack patterns become incredibly unpredictable if you don't play perfectly by staggering him enough.
Sam definitely deserved the number 2 spot imo, the ONLY problem with his fight is the rock attack as it's almost impossible to predict if he does it when you're at close range. You have to parry, realise the parry didn't work and then dodge all in half a second to avoid being hit
It's a thunderstorm right now and as soon as I saw "2. Monsoon" some thunder suddenly came up, the best entrance by monsoon by far
thats totally kickass
As awesome as armstrong is, i gotta say, the move where he charges his fist and hits the ground is pretty bullshit. That move can lead to the ground exploding in a line (which he sometimes immediately does a second time), the ground exploding in the shape of a circle, the ground exploding in a line but lava keeps bursting from the ground forming some sort of deadly wall or he can form cracks in the ground that burst out lava for a moment after a few seconds. All those different moves have the exact same tell and you can never know which one it is except for the very first one at the start of the fight which is almost always the single line version (usually he does it twice). While all the versions of this move are very cool, when playing on revengeance where everything one shots you they feel very poorly designed. Also when he charges at you with his fist for the qte cutscene, to me it seems like its random which one youll get (tho it might be based on the parry timing)
I know this video is relatively old but i gotta vent. Armstrong is not the most difficult boss fight in the game. It also ties into what i believe is the truly worst boss fight in the game. I'm talking about Grad. Between hard and very hard it goes from kinda pointless boss fight to introduce an enemy type to the biggest roadblock that is based on annoyance rather than skill. The environment is filled with destructible objects that will explode on impact (except for when they don't and explode on collision with you). If you get hit by 1 shot of its cannon than there is a good chance that it will hit you with the rest of its barrage (depending on distance and even than you must be very far). Camera is especially fucky since there are 2 giant metal zoomers on roller skates so it might just give up and throw itself into a wall. God protect you if you are forced to play this on mouse and keyboard.
Every major boss in the game: I have a real long explanation on why I’m doing this!
Sundowner: I just wanna murder
So bassicly I’m pretty sure mistral wanted to kill khamshin because he didn’t accept blade so,f into the mission which some how pissed off mistral to kill him with blade wolf, so she took blade wolf to the place khamshin would be said to bring “freedom” but she wanted blade wolf to go rouge to kill khamshin just for “not accepting blade wolf first try”.
I like sam the best because if you play well enough you can get no damage which you cant really do with other bosses because of their cheese, but hes still really hard which i like.
Sam is a lot harder to no-damage than some other bosses imo, especially stuff like his rock hurling attack in phase 2. Tricky guy
There are some mods out there that make Sundowner a genuinely terrifying enemy.
problems i have with each boss fight:
hammerhead: this fight is just boring really, airborne enemies just don't work very well in this game
grad: not all that bad normally, but in the harder difficulties having two can be a bit annoying at times, main issue is that sometimes they just start running away for ~20-30 seconds which is really annoying, the way that they can't hit you most of the time when you get close also means it kinda just is a button mash most of the fight
khamsin: i haven't actually done blade wolf yet, so i can confirm it is one of the bosses of all time, it was certainly made
excelsus: takes a while, since you cant really parry anything to make it go faster, but is also really easy, so it kinda is just boring, hardest part was when it spawned in some enemies
sundowner: second phase is actually pretty fun but since he dies so quickly you don't get to play very much of it, and first phase is one of the fights of all time
blade wolf: actually just good, sometimes he spams the knife attack like 4 times in a row but it isn't that bad, also just not cutting him at the ending blade mode causes him to just kinda randomly explode at the end of his speech, and its pretty funny
mistral: the little guys are annoying, but their ai most of the time just sits and watches so not much of an issue, they block so many attacks before you're legally allowed to do anything, and the spin move lasts so long and they do it so often, but parrying kinda just says no to their everything and you just skip the annoying parts, so it's fine
jetstream sam: very epic and cool, i only fight it with hf blade, and it's just a really good fight mostly, only problem is when he loses his sword the gameplay just stops, it kinda just devolves to: wait for him to dash at you, block it, then get your one light attack in before he dodges everything, repeat, however i found that with thunderstrike you wont cause him to dodge, and it has more range than he has with his attacks so it can just cheese him to third phase, which is also just epic
ray: it's kinda just an ok fight, there's a lot of chasing it around which can be a bit annoying, but the way blocking it lets you do a blade mode section is pretty cool, in second phase the jumping over the laser hitbox is a little scuffed sometimes, and the part where you run down the tower has some visibility issues sometimes, which caused me a few deaths in my first playthrough, but if you just spam jump there's not much of an issue
monsoon: the theme is my favorite, the song just feels faster than the other ones which is nice, but with the actual fight: the smoke attack lasts a really long time and is comically easy to block, so it gets a bit annoying, in the part where he throws stuff at you sometimes you just can't see them coming because the smoke from the other ones exploding covers them up, and the parry timing feels a bit unintuitive for a lot of the attacks, but overall just a good fight
armstrong: the speech is an absolute classic, but it absolutely saves the first "phases" of the fight, since they kinda just are run away until next cutscene starts, and armstrong does very little during it, main problem being how long it lasts, in the actual fight, the attacks are a bit slow which makes it kinda easy, except for a few attacks that are kinda hard to tell when you have to dodge it since armstrong doesn't move very much during his attacks, qte is fun, blade mode sections also fun, my main problem is the attack where the large walls of lava or fire come up from the ground, because a lot of the time the ai will just sit in the walls and do nothing, so i just have to sit there and wait for it to go away, and it lasts way longer than it should, which really interrupts the flow that the rest of the fight gets you into, kinda ruins the fight for me since he uses it pretty often, the move where he heals can be slightly annoying if he uses it while far away from you but it's not too much of an issue
I specifically waited to damage Sundowner until after I destroyed his shield, and then I beat him flawlessly by spamming quick attacks and auto-parrying. At least Excelsus took more than spamming one button.
I would put ray below sam and mistral but thats why we have opinions, great vid
If you play on very hard difficulty, you have to fight 2 Grads, at the same time, super fun.
0/10 you’re not a fan of Sam’s theme
In all seriousness great list! I agree with almost everything on the list, and the commentary was pretty interesting.
Damn, I am wondering who's gonna be in the first place, can't wait to see the result
My friend’s favorite wind of destruction is monsoon,but mine is sundowner
The only thing I'd change, for my list, would be to slide Sam up to the top, but that's about it.
fun fact that I'm pretty sure you won't see: metal gear excelsus isn't even a metal gear, it's confirmed by codex calls that they named it that for marketing purposes
If you wanna get to the 2nd phase faster with sundowner its easy because cutting the 2 first shields is relatively easy enough but the last shield he takes forever to bring it out just run at him and use a heavy attack and raiden will slide right at him yhis will immediately get him to pull out his shield and if you got enough time use blade mode and cut the shield
Don't forget Armstrong fucking punting Raiden like a kickball
I didn't learn how to truly parry until either Armstrong or LQ-84I on the Sam DLC up until then I was just guessing that pressing some buttons between WASD and Click did it.
only thing i dislike about Armstrong’s fight is how much damage the QTEs do, though i can hear the bones getting fucking obliterated so i guess it makes sense.
3:54 fun fact: MG Exelcius (I don’t know if I spelled that word right) is not actually a metal gear, the people in cannon who made it just called it a metal gear to make it sell better.
MG excelsus was actually just given the title metal gear so it would sell better
BRO...RANKING SUNDOWNER THAT LOW, AND BELOW BLADE WOLF!??!!??! oh my lordy this man is satan
i hate to be the bearer of bad news but im hardly alone in ranking sundowner down in the pits
@@Cytonox 😭
rankings are cruel jack!
@@Cytonox You're ranking are bat-shit insane!
one of the rare things i really agree with about MGRR. very good
Some more evidence for it has to be this way being raiden's theme is when you fight armstrong with Sam the song that plays is collective consciousness
Yep, this is an amazing list. By the way, I wonder what your opinion on GaMetal's covers of "It Has To Be This Way" and "The Stains of Time" are?
I love GaMetal, I listen to that dude all the time
If monsoon have exploding meta shield :💀
You included the unmanned gear bosses too? Noice.
monsoon is honestly my favourite character other than raiden, hes cool, the voice is so great, and oml, the character designer i am is going feral. his whole "quirk" is just so well made.
I love Monsoon’s voice so much for some reason I’m glad it’s not just me. Awesome special ability he has too