Georgie deserves all the respect in the world. No one ever emphasized with him but he always steps up when hes needed. When Mandy got pregnant, when George died. Mary only ever cared about herself.
Now that is not fair. She cared about her entire family always, all 3 kids. Sure, Sheldon more than others but she did care about all of them. Nowhere she was a selfish mother. You are absolutely right about Georgie but completely wrong about Mary.
@@godswillm575i mean her moral superiority was a big problem. she treats george quite poorly for a majority of the show. And if you watched Big Bang you see how she trashes him every chance she gets. That’s not a good person.
@@krishnareddy8256 big bang trashes everyone distastefully, even when a real actor died sp that is kinda unfair especially when Georgie character before the show was simply being the failed son, it was young sheldon writers that made him a entrepreneur
@@nettyperez7611 that was already after young sheldon made his character entrepreneur, all mention of him before young sheldon was about how hed had many divorces and other stuff
@@geraldineacfalle1172 Lol I'd say anymore Young Sheldon clips you see to just ignore them even if they're past episodes, you'll start to see episodes you haven't watched yet if you keep watching em That happened to me, I didn't even finish the last season I just skipped to the last episode because I couldn't wait tbh
Mary was freaking out over the joke that is baptism, a completely insignificant issue while completely ignoring her family, and that was the real issue. So what screwed with Mary's head so much that she became a blubbering imbecile? Fu**ing religion.
Honestly, it was the only way it could've ended. We all knew it was coming. It couldn't go out with a whimper, so they went out with a stake to the heart.
Those last two episodes gutted me. I knew it was going to be rough, but damn. Sad to see the show end. I'll probably check out the Mandy and Georgie spin off.
@@mitchelledwards3189 George sr death reminded me of my own father's death. He died of a heart @45. One minute he was ther the next he wasn't. I was only 19. Miss him every day.
I found out my daughter had died when the Police and the Chaplain came to my door. Six o'clock in the morning. She went out the previous night and never came home . She was 18.
I loved this scene so much. All of them are experiencing grief differently but they need to be there for each others more. Missy is lashing out and Sheldon is isolating from the problem. Mary needs to be there for them just as much as she needs it.
Mary's never been a good Mom. Or a good wife. Or a good person for that matter. GOOD Moms instinctually know how to control themselves - especially in front of their kids and ESPECIALLY when their kids need them to remain calm. Mary's never cared about anyone else. Just like here... she's more focused on getting what she wants, when she wants ut, HOW she wants it, than being there for her kids. So she decides to force them into a serious religious commitment. Sorry but you can't force someone into a serious religious commitment. That should be between you and your God. That should NEVER be done on someone else's time table. At someone else's whim. Heck, Sheldon doesn't even believe. So what good does she think that's gonna do? She may as well Baptise a Tree! But uts what MARY WANTS so all else be da**ed. 🙄🙄🙄
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582never said she was good in fact I’m with Connie 100% she’s focused so many years on thinking about church that she created a wedge between her family. That mixed with the coddling of Sheldon and the fighting with George. Losing someone can do two things, it can break you or bring you closer.
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 she wants the best for her children but she focuses so much on sheldon that missy is just left alone. Missy got ignored most of the time like the time they forgot to pick her up . Missy does have a rude attitude but its Mary 's job as a mother to love her equally too
Didn’t Mary turn to religion after Missy survived the birth complication? I definitely agree that she coddles Sheldon and Georgie and Missy aren’t treated nearly as well. But Mary’s unwavering commitment to religion is a byproduct of her love for Missy. And there was only one time where Mary was having troubles with her faith, which it was Sheldon who helped restore that faith. Mary isn’t a bad person, does she make mistakes yes but that just means that she is human.
"Everyone treats it like a joke and it's not!" Maybe because your faith and how it made you act was literally the _only_ problem the Cooper family ever had.
It seems like Georgie never got any support or empathy when his dad died. He was automatically expected to step into the role of father, with no one realizing he was young and also grieving
It was kind of like that when my parents got a divorced. I was 19, mom was over come with the years of my father's infidelity that she tried not to see. It was hard and I didn't have a new baby. Georgie I can relate to the most. He stood up to be a teenage father and trying fill his dad's shoes. Honestly, she was hateful for the majority of show to George. She doesn't improve on how she treats her children.
Poor Georgie once was a son then was a brother then a father and then a peace keeper he is the only reason his mother was comforted in front of her husbands grave
Its mentioned in TBBT. Because Sheldon was gone and The mother became a mess, Georgie had to take care of Missy. Its a huge reason to why Georgie hated Sheldon
@@ErlkingFreakcliff , I think he harbored that one for years before his father pasted. Just like Missy, they were treated as the back of the line to Sheldon. His lack of any emotion or even seemed care his dad was gone, just cemented both their anger at Sheldon. Missy also had her own feelings about not telling her dad how much she loved him and her anger at her mom for always putting her dad down and now is totally crying that he was gone. She became hyper sensitive about anything that was her dad's being taken away. Poor Georgie promised his dad he had this and did his best to do so.
Mary was a haphazard mother with the other kids she cared more about Sheldon and her religion than the family as a whole. George was a far better parent in my opinion she was so into Sheldon that she nearly ruined him bettering himself when she didn’t tell him he’d got into college because she wanted things her way all the time including the baptism. Been baptised.should have been a individual choice at their age and she forced her will on them
That's not true at all, she loved all them the same, When you have a kid who is different you tend to think the rest are ok it has nothing to with loving one more.
@@ross4050Disagree. If you have a "special child", then you need to SHOW more love to the others. This is when you have to overcompensate. Because kids don't know what's in your heart or on your mind. No one does. What they see is your ACTIONS. Are you there for them? Do you hear them out? Do you listen to their perspectives? Do you go out kf your way to spend just as much time, energy, effort, and money on them as you do the "special" child? You have to show them. Mind reading isn't real.
@@ross4050 Besides, Sheldon is only 'special' because Mary coddled him and created a self obsessed, self entitled monster! If she had been there for her other kids (NOT TO MENTION HER HUSBAND!!!) even half as much as she babied and coddled Sheldon, then they wouldve had a happy, healthy family.
Her family had to watch her poor so much into the church, even when it put the family into a tough spot, all for them to abandon them the moment Mandy got pregnant. How does she expect them to respect a practice from an institution they saw take and take from them when they barely had enough and kick them to the curb without a second thought?
@@FunPart-xr4jgin the show in which the OP and others are commenting on, was a shit church. Nobody said anything bad about god or churches irl. Get a grip.
Mary always expect everyone to be ok about this when all she was really worried about was Sheldon, everybody was grieving and she was only focused on the baptized and worrying about Sheldon when she has a whole family to worry about
Think for a sec instead of always bashing Mary. Her husband just died, she's a very religious woman in a time where religion was pushed down in your throat. She's thinking what if her children die unexpectedly like George and they're not baptized. It means they'll not go to heaven and they'll not get to see each other again. She just got a reminder of their mortality and this is her way to make sure a goodbye on earth is not a goodbye forever
Also she's clearly grieving too. Now if you expect her to be her old self 2 days after her husband died than it's a 'you' problem. You cannot help anyone until you help yourself
@@arya3193 i know she is also grieving I understand that, but in a episode after this she was talking to her mother saying she is worried about Sheldon and Meemaw said that she has a whole family to worry about not just Sheldon, Mary also said that Missy, Georgie will be fine while they weren’t fine, she was pushing them off only focusing on Sheldon, and I’m not bashing Mary I’m speaking the truth, many people don’t want the truth but the truth is the truth
@@tdsvultur3978 you're missing context. Sheldon lacked basic life skills despite his intelligence. He was also about to leave and attended school with much much older people. Any parent would be scared of that. Missy and George were street smart. They could communicate, so marry didn't have to worry that theyd get bullied and hurt by older students. Yes she over did it and forgot that her other children, despite being more capable, still needed her and I think the show does a wonderful job of showing each characters flaws. We are only human. Not a single character in the show was potrayed as an angel - it showed each of them as flawed humans doing the best they can. Yet people have chosen marry as the scape goat to bash
Poor Georgie it's tough seeing his mum in pain but he can't grieve his own dad because he has to keep the whole family together I can't imagine the weight on Georgies shoulders right now
@@hamdansaleemkhan8758He does have feelings, he just isolated himself from his family because in reality he was just as hurt but he doesn’t know how to process that hurt the same way as his family.
Is she surprised Sheldon treats it like it’s a joke that’s actually pretty consistent with who he is. He was not happy with how the church treated his mother and his family through the whole Georgie not being married to Mandy while having a baby thing.
Fr tho, the fact that Mary can still be religious after how she was treated baffles sheldon. He does not get it. She refuses to understand anyone's perspective but her own.
@helloitsjulesshe could’ve,and maybe should’ve, gone to a different church. There was no reason to go back to that uncaring and hypocritical congregation. She started watching church on tv, but was convinced to send them way too much money, so George convinced her to go back to the old place. Mary is psychologically disturbed, however, imo, and addicted to this church stuff.
@@Irk3dmy mom joined what my brother and I call an evangelical cult a couple of years ago, after her divorce... We have no parents now. Many things we used to do together, as a family are not allowed now. I'm a musician, a violinist, she suddenly hates it because it's music... We are not even allowed to play chess, she ransacked my closet and threw many things to the trash, didn't donate them because the sinful clothes shouldn't be worn by anyone else... It was mostly my black clothes, that I used mostly for violin concerts... all she does is pray pray pray.
@rai1879 I feel you. My mother is what you call a Fundamentalist Mormon. Pretty much all the things the LDS church has denounced they still believe. Lived like that for my entire childhood and into adulthood. Had to get away from that, none of my family talks to her anymore, she made her bed. She loves God more than her children and she can have him.
Dealing with grief is very difficult. Sometimes, it's hard to put things in perspective. Poor Mary is feeling desperate. Her kids are desperate as well dealing with their feelings, and missing their dad.
I loved my dad. And when he died, it just took the light out of my life. Somebody asked me how I’d managed to cope so well, and I looked at them like they’d turned green. Coped so well? I listed to his heart stop when the cancer killed him. Silence is the worst sound in the world when you have a stethoscope on the chest of someone you love. Coped well? I kept my mom’s power on, the mortgage paid, water and sewer, dealt with the death certificate and getting things moved into mom’s name. I went to the grocery store, the mailbox, and work. Mowed the grass, trimmed the yard, put food in front of mom. Coped? All I wanted to do was curl up in a ball and cry, but I didn’t have anyone to lean on. It’s amazing how your friends disappear when you’ve moved home to look after your dying dad. People act like I had a choice. I didn’t. And nobody asked if I was okay, and I wasn’t. I feel ya, Georgie. Hugs from one first born to another.
so sorry for your loss.i have been in your shoes as an only child.first i had to suck up the death of my only son then 6 months later my only brother.and now my dad.i didnt love him and he didnt love me but i had to be there for my mom as an only child left.now i learned that my only best friend is myself.noone cares.hope u're doing okay.
love and my wishes darling...you are really strong with dealing with that all..I too lost my mother when I was 15, and my dad never really cared about the guidence...infact i consider my 9th grade physics teacher as my father figure as he was the one who made me understand the reason and purpose of life and how unique I was from the rest of the world.
@@ShreeA-jc4xjshe only cared about Sheldon and her church She never truly cared for missy bc if she had she would have noticed how hard missy was dealing with the situation. She was a horrible egocentric mother
This is what happens when you have a devastating death in the family. George was the fabric that held everything together, and the fabric falls apart George Jr had to step up and sew it all back together. Georgie has the hardest burden
George is a real man. We need more men like that in America. We need more tv shows like this in America. Stop protesting oil, trans rights, praising hamas and hating Jews. God loves us all. Enjoy life and enjoy the small things like this great tv show.
Yes,and God wants all to become Christians so we can live with Him forever. I actually believe in climate change,but I agree with everything else you said
@@icantswim8657 I'm sorry, it's my duty as a Christian to spread the good word. It doesn't matter whether people believe it or not, God's word is true and he loves you.
I get that she is broken because of the death of George but so are the kids and she really needs to be there for them in the point in their life. It's just not fair for the kids 😢
The part when meemaw was lecturing Sheldon and missy, and she started to break into tears... That broke my heart🙂↕️ Rest in peace George Cooper King of Brisket🕊️
She honestly prioritised her religion over the mental health of her kids, I know I was baptised but that was as a baby, I’m Christian and do not care if my future children would wanna be baptised or not, whatever they feel like is right should be supported healthily
I really. Did cry for the last 3 episodes.. i grew up in this show and it made me happy when im at the lowest.. i hope someone also cried knowing this show has ended
In a way I can relate with Georgie, when my Dad passed away, I felt like I needed to step up and be the emotional support, especially for my Mum, who took it the hardest, and then there was my older brother with autism who clearly didn't understand the concept of death. It all happened just 2 weeks before my 18th Birthday, and given how quickly everything happened, this left me with really only a day to mourn, because I was so worried about Mum, thus had to try and explain everything to my brother because Mum was too upset, and all his question were just making things more depressing.
Mary was always selfishly religious. Getting so upset and making people do things that they don’t believe just to make her happy. !!!! That’s what cultism does to a person. It makes you arrogant selfish. I don’t care what the religion.
I think a lot of people diss Mary's belief but take it from her perspective. She's worried about her childrens soul and its horrible when your panicked and everyone treats it as if you are being silly. Its real to her, she's trying to help her children.
even if christianity were right, her children are not gonna die tomorrow, but they are hurting today. if she's worried about their "soul" and not about their grieving process, she IS being silly. irrespective of her faith.
I don't think the issue was her beliefs.. No one told to stop praying for them.. But when everybody was grieving, she almost didn't bother about or care to even ask her kids how they were doing after losing their father.. All were hurt nd they needed to be there for each other.. Mary could have patiently nd lovingly spoken to them nd explained to them why it means so much to her instead of just forcing it on them nd then getting upset nd abandoning them when they said no! Yes she's falling apart nd it hurts more if your kids speak like that but her just leaving them there without even talking to them properly nd forcing her beliefs on them didn't help either!
@@quibble9003 measure it up. Her husband just died so the concept of the afterlife has become all the more real. She's not trying to ignore them intentionally throughout the episode she makes attempts but she's drowning in her own grief. She wants her children to have saved souls and wants it done quickly because as I just said death has become more real to her. Saving your children's souls vs their emotions isn't a hard one to choose from. I don't even believe in Christianity but Mary is trying her best and doing what she believes will save her kids. Death is unpredictable and sudden. Never assume your safe from it. George had a normal day before dropping dead.
@@Sanj193 I'm talking about the comments calling her selfish and stuff. They ignore what she was praying for...her children. They ignore why she wants the baptism...to save her children. They aren't very nuanced or understanding of a woman who dealing with grief which can make you act out. You can't control how you react to grief, she threw herself into religion.
@@Markus2E5I6 damn right, soul vs grief is not a hard choice. it should be grief 100% of the time. is that not what your argument is asking of her kids; to prioritize mary's griefing? how can you ask that for mary yet write off her failure in prioritizing her children's griefing? what a hypocrite.
At most, prayer helps the person who is praying feel calm and centered. To the ones she is praying about/for, it only helps when they know they are being thought of and wished nice things for. So, it helps them a tiny bit. Mary was grieving loudly and hysterically but had almost no strength to give to her children. She left them in the wilderness. And then the ridiculous demand for baptism was obnoxious. Sheldon only did it to humor her.
But Mary religion is a joke. Sure you can have your religion and believe in it, but you CANNOT Force your family members to accept and believe in it as well. That is not your job!!! And if your family members choose to not accept your religion, well you cannot do anything about it. Religion is supposed to be a PERSONAL belief, not a crusade!! IF you believe that I am going to go hell, well, that is YOUR opinion!! It is not my opinion or belief. This is whay I always hated Mary the religious Nutter in Young Sheldon. The rest of the cast was wonderful!!
Wrong. It is the responsibility of parents to raise their children with a belief in God. The children can decide when they're older whether to keep believing. And Jesus instructed his followers to spread the Gospel, which is how Christianity became the largest religion on the planet. Please educate yourself.
@@joan-annebross9217sure, but this isn’t the 16th century. This is the modern era where the people no longer appreciate being forced into things. Religion for me wasn’t forced it was a choice. I chose not to believe. In the case of the Coopers, Mary is forcing them to believe and they don’t want to because of this. If Mary wasn’t so forcing maybe her children would accept Christianity more. But that’s not what we see.
George's death is the biggest tragedy in the Cooper family. Everyone changed. Georgie became a father at a young age. It must be hard on Georgie being a father at a young age. And being the man of the house. 😢😢😢
@@iheartbillie y'all need to chill 😅😅😂 its a good show but hell 😂 in reality both need in each other even if one cheats on another or one likes Christ more than any other. It's no different really human or not
@@iheartbillie yes I'm an atheist but I'm someone who lost something dearly it's hurts yet it doesn't matter bc someone will treat it as a joke just so it makes you feel bad or feel good in a way ❤
@bluerose3627 girl what? seek therapy bcs you're randomly bringing up your loss into a conversation where this is abt baptising eg stupid splash of water that doesn't do anything 🤣 we KNOW it's a show, people make shows so we can have deep opinions abt it.
I feel for Georgie and Missy. Mary was just too focused on sheldon and saving his soul that she forgot about her family. Can't believe the show ended so as George said "See y'all later" 😢😢😢 Good bye George
My mom has always been like this. My entire life I’ve been raised as a Christian. And almost every time their was a problem she wasn’t their as herself to help with our problems but would instead say it’s in gods hands or be praying. Which helped in a religion standpoint but also made me resent it because she never took responsibility fully or stepped in as herself.
With the death of George and the Christianity faith, she just wanted to make sure they were saved so she won’t lose them forever. Not saying George wasn’t a Christian in the story, it’s the fear of her kids leaving her without the faith to be separated for eternity is what scares her and the lose of George makes her want to make sure that she doesn’t lose them.
I never watched this show but i always saw edits about it and ive always said ill watch it soon , never got to that point and even though i havent watched it , i find it very sad that its over
It's only when George Sr being gone is when we see how much Mary truly needed him! Figuratively speaking, falling into a billion pieces to the point where she can't function, Mary needs the most help! 😞😭
@@KnightOfBOS2287 Well, I wouldn't say it's her way. More like her understanding of the Lord's way. Sure I disagree with her and she should probably consider some critical thinking but other than that... I guess she's doing it cause she truly believes it's for their best. I can see a mother in her that's scared for her children and I like that her kids understand this and I'm kinda surprised that Sheldon understands this and even compromises where he can. Reminds me of my conservative Hindu mother.
@@saipranav9817there's a difference between a healthy and an unhealthy kind of faith. Mary's was unhealthy bc she used her faith as a way to not confront her emotional mess. 🤷🏻♀️ In essence she always put her comfort over everybody's well-being
And in that moment, "Georgie, became his dad."
He looks so mature.
They won't be gone forever. You will meet them again in heaven ❤️ 🕊 ✝️
Georgie became George
i just liked your comment and its 12k 😎
@@DavidaraXL Thank you 🤩
Georgie deserves all the respect in the world. No one ever emphasized with him but he always steps up when hes needed. When Mandy got pregnant, when George died. Mary only ever cared about herself.
Now that is not fair. She cared about her entire family always, all 3 kids. Sure, Sheldon more than others but she did care about all of them. Nowhere she was a selfish mother. You are absolutely right about Georgie but completely wrong about Mary.
@@godswillm575i mean her moral superiority was a big problem. she treats george quite poorly for a majority of the show. And if you watched Big Bang you see how she trashes him every chance she gets. That’s not a good person.
@@krishnareddy8256 big bang trashes everyone distastefully, even when a real actor died sp that is kinda unfair especially when Georgie character before the show was simply being the failed son, it was young sheldon writers that made him a entrepreneur
@@realislit8064 I think he was an entrepreneur in Big Bang, after all he was the King of Tires with many subsidiaries.
@@nettyperez7611 that was already after young sheldon made his character entrepreneur, all mention of him before young sheldon was about how hed had many divorces and other stuff
“They don’t need your prayers they need their mother…” 😢
God always help espiritual but naturally life is you need to control.
too bad mary is the dumbest person ive ever seen
I love this show I haven't gotten that far yet but I know water work's are coming
@@geraldineacfalle1172
Lol I'd say anymore Young Sheldon clips you see to just ignore them even if they're past episodes, you'll start to see episodes you haven't watched yet if you keep watching em
That happened to me, I didn't even finish the last season I just skipped to the last episode because I couldn't wait tbh
😢
The actress for Mary really crushed the emotional scenes here. Can we just take a second to appreciate that acting
“Mom was a mess! Missy was a Dumb teenager! I had to look after them both!”
Hit hard
While taking care of his wife and child.. He is a hero
"If you needed help then why didn't you tell me?" "Because I was protecting you too...😔"
Mary was freaking out over the joke that is baptism, a completely insignificant issue while completely ignoring her family, and that was the real issue.
So what screwed with Mary's head so much that she became a blubbering imbecile?
Fu**ing religion.
Sorry what happened to the dad in the end
The way Connie said, “they need their mother" was so soft and emotional.
The last two episodes didn’t even feel like a young Sheldon show. It was so sad that they made the finale have everyone fall apart especially Mary 😭
Honestly, it was the only way it could've ended.
We all knew it was coming. It couldn't go out with a whimper, so they went out with a stake to the heart.
Well, it does tie in to what Georgie tells Sheldon in TBBT, when he talks about how 'mom was a mess' and that 'Missy was a dumb teenager'
I like real life scenarios. Happy endings don’t happen but rarely.
Those last two episodes gutted me. I knew it was going to be rough, but damn. Sad to see the show end. I'll probably check out the Mandy and Georgie spin off.
Where can you watch season 7?
"They dont need your prayers they need
their mother" wise person
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meemaw line
Prayers are important to, bro
@@mcgrewforms5069not really
@@mcgrewforms5069 prove it
@@mcgrewforms5069 too* except Mary's a mom that has children to take care of but she's neglecting them.
Sad when death comes so fast. One moment they are in your life, the next moment they are gone forever
Very well said
I lost my daddy just like that...very sudden. He was only 59. Things haven't been right since🥺
@@mitchelledwards3189 George sr death reminded me of my own father's death. He died of a heart @45. One minute he was ther the next he wasn't. I was only 19. Miss him every day.
Lost a friend to cancer just a few weeks ago. They removed it but came back and spread fast she was only 35.
I found out my daughter had died when the Police and the Chaplain came to my door. Six o'clock in the morning. She went out the previous night and never came home . She was 18.
“They don’t need your prayers, they need their mother.”
That line hits hard 😢😭
I loved this scene so much. All of them are experiencing grief differently but they need to be there for each others more. Missy is lashing out and Sheldon is isolating from the problem. Mary needs to be there for them just as much as she needs it.
Mary's never been a good Mom.
Or a good wife.
Or a good person for that matter.
GOOD Moms instinctually know how to control themselves - especially in front of their kids and ESPECIALLY when their kids need them to remain calm.
Mary's never cared about anyone else.
Just like here... she's more focused on getting what she wants, when she wants ut, HOW she wants it, than being there for her kids.
So she decides to force them into a serious religious commitment.
Sorry but you can't force someone into a serious religious commitment. That should be between you and your God.
That should NEVER be done on someone else's time table.
At someone else's whim.
Heck, Sheldon doesn't even believe.
So what good does she think that's gonna do?
She may as well Baptise a Tree!
But uts what MARY WANTS so all else be da**ed. 🙄🙄🙄
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582never said she was good in fact I’m with Connie 100% she’s focused so many years on thinking about church that she created a wedge between her family.
That mixed with the coddling of Sheldon and the fighting with George. Losing someone can do two things, it can break you or bring you closer.
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 Sounds like someone whose mother isn't dead.
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 she wants the best for her children but she focuses so much on sheldon that missy is just left alone. Missy got ignored most of the time like the time they forgot to pick her up . Missy does have a rude attitude but its Mary 's job as a mother to love her equally too
Didn’t Mary turn to religion after Missy survived the birth complication? I definitely agree that she coddles Sheldon and Georgie and Missy aren’t treated nearly as well. But Mary’s unwavering commitment to religion is a byproduct of her love for Missy. And there was only one time where Mary was having troubles with her faith, which it was Sheldon who helped restore that faith. Mary isn’t a bad person, does she make mistakes yes but that just means that she is human.
"Everyone treats it like a joke and it's not!"
Maybe because your faith and how it made you act was literally the _only_ problem the Cooper family ever had.
ikr. like would mary have preferred they confronted her instead? they all put up with her and here she is playing the victim.
Yeah so few people realize how selfish mary really was. Its become such a normal thing in today's world that its not even recognized anymore...
@@Xiallaciliterally everyone who watches the show as well as people in the show recognized it
Baptism is NOT a joke. And even if people think she's selfish,Jesus was never selfish.
@@HeartEllis she is selfish, and neglects her children. It’s not a joke, but it’s not that serious to everybody
It seems like Georgie never got any support or empathy when his dad died. He was automatically expected to step into the role of father, with no one realizing he was young and also grieving
It was kind of like that when my parents got a divorced. I was 19, mom was over come with the years of my father's infidelity that she tried not to see. It was hard and I didn't have a new baby. Georgie I can relate to the most. He stood up to be a teenage father and trying fill his dad's shoes. Honestly, she was hateful for the majority of show to George. She doesn't improve on how she treats her children.
Poor Georgie once was a son then was a brother then a father and then a peace keeper he is the only reason his mother was comforted in front of her husbands grave
Its mentioned in TBBT. Because Sheldon was gone and The mother became a mess, Georgie had to take care of Missy. Its a huge reason to why Georgie hated Sheldon
@@ErlkingFreakcliff , I think he harbored that one for years before his father pasted. Just like Missy, they were treated as the back of the line to Sheldon.
His lack of any emotion or even seemed care his dad was gone, just cemented both their anger at Sheldon. Missy also had her own feelings about not telling her dad how much she loved him and her anger at her mom for always putting her dad down and now is totally crying that he was gone. She became hyper sensitive about anything that was her dad's being taken away. Poor Georgie promised his dad he had this and did his best to do so.
@@awclark3 they gave more of a shit after sheldon grew older did you see what he was at like 8 years old
Mary was a haphazard mother with the other kids she cared more about Sheldon and her religion than the family as a whole. George was a far better parent in my opinion she was so into Sheldon that she nearly ruined him bettering himself when she didn’t tell him he’d got into college because she wanted things her way all the time including the baptism. Been baptised.should have been a individual choice at their age and she forced her will on them
It was so sad she cared about Sheldon so much more than missy 💔
Like he said, he doesn’t believe in God, he believes in his own mother at least Sheldon healed his mother’s heart
That's not true at all, she loved all them the same, When you have a kid who is different you tend to think the rest are ok it has nothing to with loving one more.
She is the joke.... A lunatic of religion is not helping the sincerity of the word of God...... Hate her character and sheldon 💀💀💀🤮🤮🤮@@ross4050
@@ross4050Disagree. If you have a "special child", then you need to SHOW more love to the others.
This is when you have to overcompensate.
Because kids don't know what's in your heart or on your mind. No one does.
What they see is your ACTIONS.
Are you there for them?
Do you hear them out?
Do you listen to their perspectives?
Do you go out kf your way to spend just as much time, energy, effort, and money on them as you do the "special" child?
You have to show them. Mind reading isn't real.
@@ross4050
Besides, Sheldon is only 'special' because Mary coddled him and created a self obsessed, self entitled monster!
If she had been there for her other kids (NOT TO MENTION HER HUSBAND!!!) even half as much as she babied and coddled Sheldon, then they wouldve had a happy, healthy family.
That’s the best meemaw ever said! “They need their mother”
Her family had to watch her poor so much into the church, even when it put the family into a tough spot, all for them to abandon them the moment Mandy got pregnant. How does she expect them to respect a practice from an institution they saw take and take from them when they barely had enough and kick them to the curb without a second thought?
God and church are different things.
@FunPart-xr4jg yes and you can believe in God and follow the world of Jesus and the Bible without ever stepping foot into a church or being baptized.
@@FunPart-xr4jgin the show in which the OP and others are commenting on, was a shit church. Nobody said anything bad about god or churches irl. Get a grip.
@@Tomohiko_Tatsuno but some people need fellowship
@@FunPart-xr4jg You do realize this ENTIRE comment was referencing why the family in the show didn't take the church as seriously as their mother did.
“They need their mother.” Omfg that hit me like a freight train! 😭
Don't use God's name in vain
Wise words
I'm a 60 year old truck driver...
All of these last episodes have me in tears..😢
I'm a 30yr old car driver and I cried like crazy.
I’m an 18 year old bike driver and I cried a lot during the last episodes
Real men cries brother 🥹
@@KheaysI'm a 5 year old unicycle driver and I'm crying like a river
May all of you be safe on the road.
we had 7 years to prepare but we never would have saw this coming😢😢😢
Mary always expect everyone to be ok about this when all she was really worried about was Sheldon, everybody was grieving and she was only focused on the baptized and worrying about Sheldon when she has a whole family to worry about
Think for a sec instead of always bashing Mary. Her husband just died, she's a very religious woman in a time where religion was pushed down in your throat. She's thinking what if her children die unexpectedly like George and they're not baptized. It means they'll not go to heaven and they'll not get to see each other again. She just got a reminder of their mortality and this is her way to make sure a goodbye on earth is not a goodbye forever
Also she's clearly grieving too. Now if you expect her to be her old self 2 days after her husband died than it's a 'you' problem. You cannot help anyone until you help yourself
@@arya3193 i know she is also grieving I understand that, but in a episode after this she was talking to her mother saying she is worried about Sheldon and Meemaw said that she has a whole family to worry about not just Sheldon, Mary also said that Missy, Georgie will be fine while they weren’t fine, she was pushing them off only focusing on Sheldon, and I’m not bashing Mary I’m speaking the truth, many people don’t want the truth but the truth is the truth
@@arya3193 and I understand being baptized and stuff but again she had to worry about HER WHOLE FAMILY first then talk about the baptize which she did
@@tdsvultur3978 you're missing context. Sheldon lacked basic life skills despite his intelligence. He was also about to leave and attended school with much much older people. Any parent would be scared of that. Missy and George were street smart. They could communicate, so marry didn't have to worry that theyd get bullied and hurt by older students.
Yes she over did it and forgot that her other children, despite being more capable, still needed her and I think the show does a wonderful job of showing each characters flaws. We are only human. Not a single character in the show was potrayed as an angel - it showed each of them as flawed humans doing the best they can. Yet people have chosen marry as the scape goat to bash
“They don’t need your prayers, they need they’re mother..” that has me crying
Poor Georgie it's tough seeing his mum in pain but he can't grieve his own dad because he has to keep the whole family together I can't imagine the weight on Georgies shoulders right now
Sheldon has no feelings he just left for caltech while his family was in shambles
@@hamdansaleemkhan8758He does have feelings, he just isolated himself from his family because in reality he was just as hurt but he doesn’t know how to process that hurt the same way as his family.
Been there...I'm doing that right now.
@@phantomblade9167 I'm so sorry. I'm so so sorry
Memaw is a queen!! She is always there watching….thankful she’s there
I cried while watching this
Georgie is now the man of the house
yep
Love his character and acting❤
Georgie just trying his best. It’s sad that as soon as he starts getting used to being a dad he loses his own 😢
Im so sad young sheldon is over but im excited for the mandy and georgie spin-off in the fall
Wait there is gonna be a spin off of Georgie and Mandy in the fall??
@@IHEART_TayTay1989 ye its about their marriage an taking care of cee-cee i think
Will it just be them or will it include some of ys characters
@@anamelesshuman6491 idk
@anamelesshuman6491 I think so, it's called Mandy and georgies first marriage
I know she’s grieving but that gives her NO RIGHT to yell at her grieving son about children, who don’t want to get baptized, getting baptized.
A prayer may help one in spirit but being there in person makes it more meaningful.
The "okay....sorry to interrupt" he said that with so much sadness
Is she surprised Sheldon treats it like it’s a joke that’s actually pretty consistent with who he is. He was not happy with how the church treated his mother and his family
through the whole Georgie not being married to Mandy while having a baby thing.
Fr tho, the fact that Mary can still be religious after how she was treated baffles sheldon. He does not get it.
She refuses to understand anyone's perspective but her own.
@helloitsjules there is no god, so....
@@GriffintheBasedProof?
@@andreiboroianu946there is more proof that there isn’t a god
@helloitsjulesshe could’ve,and maybe should’ve, gone to a different church. There was no reason to go back to that uncaring and hypocritical congregation. She started watching church on tv, but was convinced to send them way too much money, so George convinced her to go back to the old place. Mary is psychologically disturbed, however, imo, and addicted to this church stuff.
They’re such talented actors
Being religious is your right. But don't let it ruin your family. Balancing is a beautiful thing to do here! 😎
So well said!!!
My mom is even worse than her, she went too far.
@@Irk3dmy mom joined what my brother and I call an evangelical cult a couple of years ago, after her divorce...
We have no parents now.
Many things we used to do together, as a family are not allowed now. I'm a musician, a violinist, she suddenly hates it because it's music... We are not even allowed to play chess, she ransacked my closet and threw many things to the trash, didn't donate them because the sinful clothes shouldn't be worn by anyone else... It was mostly my black clothes, that I used mostly for violin concerts... all she does is pray pray pray.
@rai1879 I feel you. My mother is what you call a Fundamentalist Mormon. Pretty much all the things the LDS church has denounced they still believe. Lived like that for my entire childhood and into adulthood. Had to get away from that, none of my family talks to her anymore, she made her bed. She loves God more than her children and she can have him.
Cult like behavior.
"They dont need yput prayers they need their mother" - CONNIE COOPER
this show peaked so much and im so sad its over . 😓
Dealing with grief is very difficult. Sometimes, it's hard to put things in perspective. Poor Mary is feeling desperate. Her kids are desperate as well dealing with their feelings, and missing their dad.
Praying without acting is like writing without publishing
Nice one
“They don’t neeed their prayers they need their mother”
I miss both the shows
same
It’s so crazy how people can come together and make such a compelling family story and friendship this show was awesome
I loved my dad. And when he died, it just took the light out of my life. Somebody asked me how I’d managed to cope so well, and I looked at them like they’d turned green. Coped so well? I listed to his heart stop when the cancer killed him. Silence is the worst sound in the world when you have a stethoscope on the chest of someone you love. Coped well? I kept my mom’s power on, the mortgage paid, water and sewer, dealt with the death certificate and getting things moved into mom’s name. I went to the grocery store, the mailbox, and work. Mowed the grass, trimmed the yard, put food in front of mom. Coped? All I wanted to do was curl up in a ball and cry, but I didn’t have anyone to lean on. It’s amazing how your friends disappear when you’ve moved home to look after your dying dad. People act like I had a choice. I didn’t. And nobody asked if I was okay, and I wasn’t. I feel ya, Georgie. Hugs from one first born to another.
so sorry for your loss.i have been in your shoes as an only child.first i had to suck up the death of my only son then 6 months later my only brother.and now my dad.i didnt love him and he didnt love me but i had to be there for my mom as an only child left.now i learned that my only best friend is myself.noone cares.hope u're doing okay.
love and my wishes darling...you are really strong with dealing with that all..I too lost my mother when I was 15, and my dad never really cared about the guidence...infact i consider my 9th grade physics teacher as my father figure as he was the one who made me understand the reason and purpose of life and how unique I was from the rest of the world.
Same.I'm so sad.I Wish the show was not over
Meemaw calling her out for always thinking about her self.
She didn't ALWAYS think about herself, she cared about everyone but didn't know how to show it.
@@ShreeA-jc4xjshe only cared about Sheldon and her church
She never truly cared for missy bc if she had she would have noticed how hard missy was dealing with the situation.
She was a horrible egocentric mother
god forbid a woman is sad over her husbands death oh my god
Even here she didnt go and just remain in denial and delusion
Uhm let the woman grieve 🤨✋️
One of the saddest episodes
This is what happens when you have a devastating death in the family. George was the fabric that held everything together, and the fabric falls apart George Jr had to step up and sew it all back together.
Georgie has the hardest burden
George is a real man. We need more men like that in America. We need more tv shows like this in America. Stop protesting oil, trans rights, praising hamas and hating Jews. God loves us all. Enjoy life and enjoy the small things like this great tv show.
Yes,and God wants all to become Christians so we can live with Him forever. I actually believe in climate change,but I agree with everything else you said
Georgie ..dont die..i miss your voice and expressions..they are best
I lowkey cry over small clips like these from this show
so I don't watch it much :(
It's so sad to see George's grave😭😭😭 I still can't believe he died
Connie was always right when it came to the kids!
“No matter if you believe in god or not, as long as you’re a good person nothing else matters.”
-my brother.
God is real though and we must believe in him for it is through Christ alone that we are saved
@@TheDbgtfan23 yeah sure whatever you say, not everyone believes in that stuff so just stop
@@icantswim8657 I'm sorry, it's my duty as a Christian to spread the good word. It doesn't matter whether people believe it or not, God's word is true and he loves you.
@@TheDbgtfan23 yeah tell that to every other religion that thinks the same
@@TheDbgtfan23
No one wants to hear about a religion if they don't follow it, even if you try your best 😕
I was literally crying while watching this😭
If Zoe Perry (Mary) doesn't win an Emmy award for her incredible acting skills on the last 2 episodes, then it confirms the awards are rigged!!
ure catching up with reality now?all awards rigged
Is it that hard to play a religious psycho? Some of the other acting is much more subtle.
I get that she is broken because of the death of George but so are the kids and she really needs to be there for them in the point in their life. It's just not fair for the kids 😢
The part when meemaw was lecturing Sheldon and missy, and she started to break into tears...
That broke my heart🙂↕️
Rest in peace George Cooper King of Brisket🕊️
Fr I was so sad when it was over I hope more episodes and seasons come out 😢
This phrase is so sad, growing up Catholic, it was so pathetic so the prayers and no real conversations that I needed at the time.
I wish more people of faith were like meemaw and knew prayers don't fix everything.... maybe I would still pray
False.. This show is written by hollywood anti Christian..
Don't be easily influence..
The finale was so sad without george😣
Missy is my favorite and the way Geogie acted was so kind
She honestly prioritised her religion over the mental health of her kids, I know I was baptised but that was as a baby, I’m Christian and do not care if my future children would wanna be baptised or not, whatever they feel like is right should be supported healthily
Infant baptism isn't Biblical,and you should care as a Christian, because you should want your kids to be saved
@@HeartEllisBy forcing yourself? No, sorry, but you're overstepping badly.
"They don't need your prayers they need their mother" really broke me.😢
In the last two episodes i kinda thought mary was going crazy.. 💀
I kinda feel like meemaw was the best character in the whole series and the most supportive one
MEEMAW SPEAKING FOR ALL OF US
I really. Did cry for the last 3 episodes.. i grew up in this show and it made me happy when im at the lowest.. i hope someone also cried knowing this show has ended
In a way I can relate with Georgie, when my Dad passed away, I felt like I needed to step up and be the emotional support, especially for my Mum, who took it the hardest, and then there was my older brother with autism who clearly didn't understand the concept of death. It all happened just 2 weeks before my 18th Birthday, and given how quickly everything happened, this left me with really only a day to mourn, because I was so worried about Mum, thus had to try and explain everything to my brother because Mum was too upset, and all his question were just making things more depressing.
Damn bro i'm sorry for your loss
I hope everything worked out with you and your family
Georgie jr had the best character development in the whole series
Mary was always selfishly religious. Getting so upset and making people do things that they don’t believe just to make her happy. !!!! That’s what cultism does to a person. It makes you arrogant selfish. I don’t care what the religion.
Thats basically fanatism. 🤷🏻♀️ In Mary's case its religious, but doesn't have to be.
Christianity isn't a cult. It's been proven multiple times
@@HeartEllisChristianity has several branches that are borderline cults and their beliefs are often used as such.
Why did this actually made me have tears…
I think a lot of people diss Mary's belief but take it from her perspective. She's worried about her childrens soul and its horrible when your panicked and everyone treats it as if you are being silly. Its real to her, she's trying to help her children.
even if christianity were right, her children are not gonna die tomorrow, but they are hurting today. if she's worried about their "soul" and not about their grieving process, she IS being silly. irrespective of her faith.
I don't think the issue was her beliefs.. No one told to stop praying for them.. But when everybody was grieving, she almost didn't bother about or care to even ask her kids how they were doing after losing their father.. All were hurt nd they needed to be there for each other.. Mary could have patiently nd lovingly spoken to them nd explained to them why it means so much to her instead of just forcing it on them nd then getting upset nd abandoning them when they said no! Yes she's falling apart nd it hurts more if your kids speak like that but her just leaving them there without even talking to them properly nd forcing her beliefs on them didn't help either!
@@quibble9003 measure it up. Her husband just died so the concept of the afterlife has become all the more real. She's not trying to ignore them intentionally throughout the episode she makes attempts but she's drowning in her own grief. She wants her children to have saved souls and wants it done quickly because as I just said death has become more real to her. Saving your children's souls vs their emotions isn't a hard one to choose from.
I don't even believe in Christianity but Mary is trying her best and doing what she believes will save her kids. Death is unpredictable and sudden. Never assume your safe from it. George had a normal day before dropping dead.
@@Sanj193 I'm talking about the comments calling her selfish and stuff. They ignore what she was praying for...her children. They ignore why she wants the baptism...to save her children. They aren't very nuanced or understanding of a woman who dealing with grief which can make you act out. You can't control how you react to grief, she threw herself into religion.
@@Markus2E5I6 damn right, soul vs grief is not a hard choice. it should be grief 100% of the time. is that not what your argument is asking of her kids; to prioritize mary's griefing? how can you ask that for mary yet write off her failure in prioritizing her children's griefing? what a hypocrite.
They did the last 3 episodes so well, so emotional and explaining.
This was what older georgie was talking about in the BBT about taking care of missy and mary. Oof. The feels when you see it actually happening
They need both their mom and her prayers. So many people don't understand what power prayers have.
At most, prayer helps the person who is praying feel calm and centered. To the ones she is praying about/for, it only helps when they know they are being thought of and wished nice things for. So, it helps them a tiny bit. Mary was grieving loudly and hysterically but had almost no strength to give to her children. She left them in the wilderness. And then the ridiculous demand for baptism was obnoxious. Sheldon only did it to humor her.
A baptism is definitely a joke, but it’s even funnier when Sheldon shows up in his scuba Steve outfit😂😂
It’s not a joke. But that part was funny haha
Not a joke only for you it is 💀
That's true a mother's Love is the most important thing to your child
TBBT George was right about his family
I legit bawled like crazy the last 2 episodes😭
But Mary religion is a joke. Sure you can have your religion and believe in it, but you CANNOT Force your family members to accept and believe in it as well. That is not your job!!! And if your family members choose to not accept your religion, well you cannot do anything about it. Religion is supposed to be a PERSONAL belief, not a crusade!! IF you believe that I am going to go hell, well, that is YOUR opinion!! It is not my opinion or belief. This is whay I always hated Mary the religious Nutter in Young Sheldon. The rest of the cast was wonderful!!
The religous nutter😂😂
Wrong. It is the responsibility of parents to raise their children with a belief in God. The children can decide when they're older whether to keep believing. And Jesus instructed his followers to spread the Gospel, which is how Christianity became the largest religion on the planet. Please educate yourself.
@@joan-annebross9217sure, but this isn’t the 16th century. This is the modern era where the people no longer appreciate being forced into things. Religion for me wasn’t forced it was a choice. I chose not to believe. In the case of the Coopers, Mary is forcing them to believe and they don’t want to because of this. If Mary wasn’t so forcing maybe her children would accept Christianity more. But that’s not what we see.
@@joan-annebross9217 accepting of Christ and faith should come after the person who chooses to believe is of sound mind.
What did u expect? Mary was a religious hypocrite from start to finish, both YS and TBBT revealed as much.
George's death is the biggest tragedy in the Cooper family. Everyone changed. Georgie became a father at a young age.
It must be hard on Georgie being a father at a young age.
And being the man of the house.
😢😢😢
Wow mary is so awful. Georgie comes out to try to be there for her, and she tries to manipulate him about the baptizing nonsense. Get a grip woman.
if only it had been her instead of George
@@iheartbillie y'all need to chill 😅😅😂 its a good show but hell 😂 in reality both need in each other even if one cheats on another or one likes Christ more than any other. It's no different really human or not
@@iheartbillie yes I'm an atheist but I'm someone who lost something dearly it's hurts yet it doesn't matter bc someone will treat it as a joke just so it makes you feel bad or feel good in a way ❤
@bluerose3627 girl what? seek therapy bcs you're randomly bringing up your loss into a conversation where this is abt baptising eg stupid splash of water that doesn't do anything 🤣 we KNOW it's a show, people make shows so we can have deep opinions abt it.
@@iheartbillie ok? but I guess I will but unlike you I'm not too sensitive about it like for example? Lmao
The fact Georgie has his own child to worry about but is takeing time to help his mom brother and sister out is heartwarming
I miss him im crying
This show will go down in history so sad to see it end it had me in tears😢
I feel for Georgie and Missy. Mary was just too focused on sheldon and saving his soul that she forgot about her family. Can't believe the show ended so as George said "See y'all later" 😢😢😢 Good bye George
"They don't need your prayers, they need their mother." - Meemaw
Mary not realising missy is not fine is sooo relatable. This is just what is happening with me and this ending really hit me hard .
Hope everything gets better for you) Even if you're being overlooked, you're still valid and deserve to be heard))
It is absolutely ok to be not fine. I have been there too...
This made me cry 😢 😭 🤧
Death only really comes in two flavors, it's either way too slow, degenerating, exhausting, withering. Or, sometimes it's way too fast...
My mom has always been like this. My entire life I’ve been raised as a Christian. And almost every time their was a problem she wasn’t their as herself to help with our problems but would instead say it’s in gods hands or be praying. Which helped in a religion standpoint but also made me resent it because she never took responsibility fully or stepped in as herself.
I cried so much while watching George’s funeral
God forbid Mary let them have their own faiths
she's grieving for her husband's death , i think she's just scared
It was part of the irony and stereotypes in the culture of the time and place, but in the end it became crazy-seeming and truly broken.
Why are you rendering to her as plural
With the death of George and the Christianity faith, she just wanted to make sure they were saved so she won’t lose them forever. Not saying George wasn’t a Christian in the story, it’s the fear of her kids leaving her without the faith to be separated for eternity is what scares her and the lose of George makes her want to make sure that she doesn’t lose them.
@@LewisTheBatin other words, she’s bonkers.
I never watched this show but i always saw edits about it and ive always said ill watch it soon , never got to that point and even though i havent watched it , i find it very sad that its over
this made me cry
Wish my mom had got this message
Much of the time problems can’t be prayed away some times you have to take action to make a miracle happen.
This is the only show that made me cry…
I that moment she asked for the 50$ back bc shes not working and would really need the Grocery Money
It's only when George Sr being gone is when we see how much Mary truly needed him! Figuratively speaking, falling into a billion pieces to the point where she can't function, Mary needs the most help! 😞😭
I'am a Christian but I always hated the mother, she is the most selfish person in the show
I'm an atheist and I think she's alright. High five! ✋
What about Audrey😅😅😅😅😅
@@saipranav9817 she's alright? Put your hand down boy she leteraly uses her religion to get her way
@@KnightOfBOS2287
Well, I wouldn't say it's her way. More like her understanding of the Lord's way. Sure I disagree with her and she should probably consider some critical thinking but other than that... I guess she's doing it cause she truly believes it's for their best. I can see a mother in her that's scared for her children and I like that her kids understand this and I'm kinda surprised that Sheldon understands this and even compromises where he can. Reminds me of my conservative Hindu mother.
@@saipranav9817there's a difference between a healthy and an unhealthy kind of faith. Mary's was unhealthy bc she used her faith as a way to not confront her emotional mess. 🤷🏻♀️ In essence she always put her comfort over everybody's well-being