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Lost her throne, lost her father, lost her friend, lost her mother, lost her son, lost her daughter. She’s coming back with a hell lot of rage.
And more dead sons 😞
Got a lot more to lose too
And ending eaten by a dragon. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes....
deserved to lose throne
@@The_Bricklayer And still has her bloodline survived the Dance of the Dragons. Go cope.
Politics destroyed their friendship.
Otto did with his greed and betrayal
@@pixiedust1999so did Viserys with his favouritism and carelessness not to mention neglect
Men destroyed their friendship
Allison needed a back bone, she the type of friend who will mess with your husband
@@user-zf6xe5nj1wAlicent and she was 15 she was not messing with her friends husband her father pimped her out to her best friend pervy old dad for 50 bucks and a cool armchair.
It’s honestly insane that Alicent ever had the nerve to ask Rhaenys to betray her entire family for her.
What do you mean? Alicent's children are related to Rhaenys just as Rhaenyra is. As far as Rhaenys knows, her son was mysteriously murdered and immediately after his wife married Daemon, who also laughed at the funeral. The blacks also shame her legacy by posing 2 bastards as her grandchildren.
Alicent children are her family too, and she is half Baratheon, they declared for Greens.
@zenovirag4194 Tou forget that Rhaenys granddaughters via Laena Barla and Rhaena are DAMON'S children. The same ones Otto planned on slaughtering.
@@gonzommz1739Not as close as her granddaughters
@@Ashbrash1998 and Alicent offered her grandaughters Driftmark because of that.
In the books, Alicent was as grasping as her father was.
Facts 😂
She would be more sympathetic if she actually was a much older evil stepmother who always fought for her effectively disinherited sons than what they turned her into.
The show made her more sympathetic, book Alicent was straight up evil incarnate
@@user-ti5cw1ug6lbut in my opinion it's nice to see this friends to enemies dynamic tbh this "evil stepmother" trope has been done thousand times. Now there is more depth and history behind her being "the evil stepmother" gives more volume and depth to her character
@@deezing I was implying that the "evil step mother" in this case was not really so evil. Any woman in her position would do the same especially in a medieval context. Alicent's situation is realistic for a medieval queen because they are usually sent to live in a foreign land where they have no connections/allies and only have their children (Who are effectively disinherited). This could've been more compelling than the "friend sleeps with friend's dad betrayal" type of cheap drama that isn't worthy of GOT but ended up defining the show and Alicent to most fans anyway despite not being in the book. So many other possible interactions are sacrificed by making Alicent and Rhaenyra childhood friends and ultimate making the chief co-conspirator of the Greens just some victim all to for an even more basic narrative of everybody being oppressed.
Is sad to see how Rhaenyra didn't want to accept that Alicent have always betrayed her and only wanted to steal everything she had, she has never been her friend 😢
goes both ways
@@anikethchakraborty3238 In the books Alicent was just as bad if not worse then her father
@@felipin0709 yup she's still horrible even in the series but we know the reason what led to it.
@@anikethchakraborty3238 The reason being?
@@felipin0709idk for the book, but in the serie you can clearly understand they chose to show how his father alienates and manipulates her, and her female/young Maiden status to get power and his target.
Otto sent his daughter in Viserys's bed. I Still remember the Sex/rape scene between the 2 of them. I'm a rape survivor, to me this reading line was super obvious.
Doesnt mean that alicent is not guilty tho. Her adult choices are her own responsability, but her Child context may explain a lot.
And then she loses her baby girl and later her son because of Alicent and the Greens; for as much as the Greens claimed that Rhaenyra would have to hurt and kill them, they provoked and started the war.
None of Alicent’s line would survive to Danaerys stormborn’s time a blessing really.
Yh Otto only had those assumptions and thoughts of Rhaenyra because he thinks that way and wanted to do exactly that to Rhaenyra. Unlike the rest, Rhaenyra actually knows the duty which includes Aegon the conquerors prophecy of a song of Ice 🧊 & Fire 🔥
Technically Alicent son started the bloodshed. He should have used his brain and not chased after Luke. Arrax was scared and breathed fire as a possible normal act. Anyone being chased by a larger dragon or being would possibly do the same. Arrax may have breathed fire first but him and vhagar chasing them is the cause.
@@sarahpingxie2811 The main Cause is down to her and her bad parenting actually. Why the boys had issues and resentment for Rhaenyra & her kids from the beginning. Allicent has raised her boys on fear paranoia and hatred. Filling her boys with all that sh*t, hence why Aemonds words were so harsh, and cruel in ep 7. So if she had just raised he kids properly like Rhaenyra. Instead of focusing on bring Rhaenyra down so much, things could have been so much better and peaceful. Many times Rhaenyra offered olive branch and got rejected over jealously & prettiness. It's tragic really, Aemond is responsible yes but i do think this all could have been avoided if they were taught better and encouraged to love their nephews not resent them.
@@shannyd1 I think Alicent was petty and jealous but I believe she also assumed if Rhaenyra or Rhaenyra first kids became heir then they would have Alicent and her kids banished or killed which I don’t think true. But just how she acted when ever viserys mentioned Rhaenyra would be heir and told aegon to step up. I also think Otto could have told her that.
What I don’t get is. People didn’t want a bad heir right? A evil one? Cruel one? To me Rhaenyra gentle kids would suit best. They seemed like they would never do anything unless truly necessary to start a war. But Aemond definitely seemed like he would become a nasty king if he was heir. Aegon? Well I mean from what I seen (I haven’t read books yet) he wasn’t bad but I mean he was always a bully.
Sadly only one of Rhaenyra kids becomes heir but he will be so messed up after what he witness I doubt he will be fully clear ended.
I just blame Viserys, Like why tf marry her when Aemma was what he had. He lost her and couldn’t fill the void but had his daughter by his side. His blindness to the truth crippled Targaryen might and the almost extinction of the dragons. I am not saying he wasn’t a good king but his actions led to this
He was a shit king.
The main issue was him neglecting his sons and only caring for his daughter
@@ZollaREALthe main issue was him remarrying for lust rather than for advantages
@@tobyleigh2070 in what scene or part of the book did you interpret his marriage to alicent was the cause of lust? Literally he married her to create more backup heirs and to keep the Targaryen line so Rhaenyra's bastards do not inherit and cause instability to the realm
@@ZollaREAL mostly married her because she was just THERE. It was even said in the show by Viserys to the hand how he put his daughter as a pawn to aid his sorrows
Alicents younger and older actress really do look so alike
Honestly I like Corlys holding Rhaenyra :
Best Father and Daughter in law moment ❤️
Im so proud for Matt Smith! From the Doctor to Daemon what a journey!🥹
To Prince Phillip, Matt Smith is a sleeper. He has such a unique look but a huge aura. He can be sexy, silly, arrogant, noble, evil. He is powerful. What an amazing actor.
He was literally the one good thing about the movie morbius lol, the movie was shit but if HE had been cast as the main guy, and the movie centered around his story. It could have been SOOO much better.
I'm forever behind The Queen who never was. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The queen who should've been.
Rhaenys my Queen. ❤
Anyone who says Alicent didn’t do anything wrong is clearly wrong. They kept the kings death hidden for 2 or 3 days? So that no one could stop them from getting her son ready. Cause they knew if word got out some would try to stop it. Only a horrible person would do that. His FIRST born child aka Rhaenyra had ever right to know IMMEDIATELY yet it never happened.
Spoiler ahead everyone is going to die in this series. Be prepared, the only one to rule is Rhaenyra Youngest son with Daemon
@@ricky_0425 Actually both rule! Aegon the Third rules and then his sons each rule after him without heirs and then Viserys(the youngest son) rules Westeros
Greed breaks relationships...
Alicent was Rhaenyra's enemy for a long time. It's sad it took her that long to notice or accept that reality.
No she was and still isnt. Both of their enemies is Otto, Viserys mistakes and Rhaenyra's stubborness to realized that it was not the right time, the real wasnt prepare to allow a female rule. Viserys, Jaehaerys and even Aegon I had been Kings above older females. Rhaenyra should have married Daemon and rule with him, have heirs with him but... Visery's didnt realized this in time.
@@Alejojojo6 Actually Alicent is Rhaenyras enemy, i get the stance and Otto was definitely the maker of the conflict but NONE of it works without Alicent.
I would say your thought is slightly flawed. it is not that the Kingdom wasn’t prepared for a female ruler. The whole point is that the Targaryens are the biggest power in the world, they say in ep 1 “The only thing that can destroy the house of the dragon was itself”
If Alicent and Otto never pushed for Aegon there would be no war. Even if Aegon was alive, as long as he didn’t want the throne, there is no war. The Targaryens have 10 dragons even if ALL the lords of Westeros were sexist and didn’t want a queen, it wouldn’t matter. That conflict would last like a week, if they tried to overthrow Rhaenyra. Along with that, Oath/ Honor is such a big thing in Westeros, majority of the lords would never want to be seen as dishonorable and would support Rhaenyra.
As they say multiple times throughout the show, “what the people want is no consequence” THEY HAVE DRAGONS. The war is only a war because Aegon, a targaryen WITH dragons and a mother and grandfather who worked 20 years for him to take the throne.
If Aegon had been successful and fled or went off to tell Rhaenyra, there would be no greens or war. Baratheons and Lannisters would not have risked crowning a king who doesn’t want to be king. The biggest solution was if Viserys would have kept his family together even if Alicent hated Rhaenyra, he could’ve made sure Aegon and Rhaenyra had a better relationship. However Viserys was always trying to people please, best option was Rhaenyra marry anyone either Daemon or Velaryon and have their firstborn engaged to a Martell.
@@myasuniverse1327all that for what she lied about her bastards that in itself would have started a war
@@kap2652claro que no.todo sabían que eran bastardos y al reino ,no le importo.no iba a pasar nada si ya subía al trono de hierro.
@@anajuliagomez878 they didnt care?? The whole dance happened I think they cared a lot the main story for game of thrones happened because of bastards they have no right to inherit if you think that would go peacefully your a fool
It's really hard to feel sympathy for Alicent when literally all she had to do was tell Rhaenyra that her father tried to set her up with Viserys. Rhaenyra, fighting herself against a marriage she doesn't choose for herself, would have understood and maybe even tried to talk some sense into her father. Alicent didn't, so why did she expect Rhaenyra to understand after the fact?
In the books she was far more dangerous and capable.
How can a 15 year old girl in Westeros go against her father, especially when her mother is dead? Viserys spent 15 years ignoring Nyra, why would Alicent think that she’d have the power to stop what Otto was planning? Why would she think that the King wouldn’t be upset with Alicent for making his relationship with Nyra more distant?
Viserys and Otto both said not to say anything to her so if Alicent told Rhaenyra she’d be going against a royal command and could be punished/killed
It's a difficult concept for anyone of the modern world to understand that women relied heavily on the words, action and financial status of a man to get them through life. Even Rhaenyra with her status as a Princess needed the support of Daemon to solidify her place as Queen. He was her enforcer 🤷♀️
People keep saying she lied abt Daemon, my question is what right does Alicent have to knw abt her sexual life? It’s non of her f..king biz who Rhaenyra sleeps with, it’s not going to affect her life in anyway, she getting upset over that while trying to climb into my girl’s father bed was the most stupid thing I have ever seen, she is the one who owned Rhaenyra the truth not the other way around.
Viserys literally told her not to tell Rhaenyra about their meetings
I think rhenyra would make a much much better queen than aegon and his grandfather would ever
The necklace Alicent is wearing while in the blue dress is stunning 😍
Viserys should have married daemon and rhanaerya
End
Alicent was never friends with Rhaenyra, she only used her to get closer to Viserys and once she did that she threw her away like a spoiled child abandoning her old toy because her dad bought her a new one.
And for all those who still believe that Alicent did everything she did to protect her children, know that this is just idiocies. Alicent never cared about them they were just a means to allow Hightower's bloodline to ascend to the Iron Throne, nothing more.
And to achieve this Alicent purposely subjected her children to repeated psychological abuse by telling them that Rheanyra would kill them to secure the throne, something she never did in the book, she says plainly.
And the truly worst thing is that not even after Aegon III's accession to the throne was Alicent able to admit to herself that the war had been exclusively her fault, rather she tried to convince Jaehaera, a frightened and traumatized 8-year-old girl to killing Aegon III a move that makes it clear how selfish Alicent was and if it had happened she and Jaehaera would have been the first people to be suspected of Aegon iii's death and Baela and Rheana would have both had them burned alive for it.
So Alicent no longer even cared about the fate of her last grandchild just to have the last word with Rheanyra what a pathetic woman.
And I'm convinced that Jaehaera was happy when her grandmother died, so she could never ruin her life again.
Alicent was a greedy and selfish woman who did nothing but blame others for her choices and who didn't even have that glimmer of dignity to end her miserable life because dying meant having to look Viserys in the eye and explain why all her children and most of his grandchildren are dead.
Alicent never loved anyone and died alone, abandoned, forgotten and hated by all even the Hightowers repudiated her, it is no coincidence that they built a statue in honor of Daeron I the young dragon the grandson of Rheanyra rather than Aegon II or of one of his brothers I think this was the Hightowers' way of telling Alicent to go f**k himself.
The writers and cast have all said that Alicent and Rhanenyra were genuinely friends.
But sure blame the child bride and not the 40 year olds man who wanted to bang her
all of it is a complete nonsense. you clearly didn't watch the show attentively enough.
it's true for the book alicent, but not for the show alicent.
atlast her succession continued as viserys told bloodline 😅😅😅 that’s rhaenyra 🔥🔥🔥💪🏻
Nice can't wait for more
Alicent could’ve denied whatever her father or anyone said. She should’ve done the right thing and kept what was stablished by Viserys decades before even if it was for the sake of her “love” for Rhaenyra.
You are too good blud
I hope this one doesn't end up like GOT, please be true to the source material. It's a kind request from every booklover. Season 2 is coming and as a book lover we will be hoping for an amazing experience. Dune has proved it. It's time for HOTD
What I will never fully understand is the bs claims to the thrones in the lore. Like Danaerys is a woman so “nobody supports her claim to the throne” so is Rhaynera’s claim but Cersei murders everyone and somehow she’s allowed to sit the iron throne even if just for a few. I yet can’t take it seriously, surely the man could be sexist but come on she’s a beast and rides a dragon how much more womanhood would you want in a queen.
The only ones that they could sit on the iron throne are Robert Bartheleon’s bastard children, the possible matrilineal blackfyre descendants as the patriarchal line of the Blackfyre’s were completely destroyed, the Valyrons who have fallen on hard times since Aenys death, and Danaerys. In this case Danaerys is the only remaining direct descendant whose claim no one can dispute or challenge. That and she has three overgrown lizards if she meets a Valyron one of them could easily mount one of her dragons and could probably provide the designs or even use one of the old dragon saddles they have. The other Valyrian house that is present in westeros is not of dragonlord descent are also very wealthy merchants, despite being unable to mount a dragon themselves. If she dies the throne itself will likely go to the Valyron’s if they are ballsy enough to take it.
Yeah it's always stupid for people to point Out who had a "right to a throne" because in the end the one with the "right" ist the one who can protect that right by force. People that are so hung up on gender or blood lines ignore that political leaders are not destined beeings but warlords that crowned themselves. The women we know ruled kingdoms/empires all came to power differently. Katerina, Maria-Theresia, Elisabeth, Adelheid, Zaharia, Brunechildis, Komata matsu, and the last Chinese Dragon. What they all had was the Power to defend their claim.
its a thing among ancient royalties that GRRM applied here. The male line need to completely-die-first before the female line get a chance. Jaeherys chose Viserys instead of Rhaenys. After his wife and son died, Visery's should have named Daemon instead of Rhaenyra as heir, then wed the 2 off if he really wanted his line to continue. His solution to a problem is creating another problem by marrying another woman and fathering children that will contest his daughters claim cause he's an idiot who did not bother to change the succession law. This is why he's a weak king. He should have put laws and rules into place before naming Rhaenyra as heir so her claim is strong and valid. Example of this is Aleksander II of Russia who's children from second marriage despite having noble status is barred from succession.
Although we know how this ends for her I want her to win so badd 😫😫❤️❤️
Sigo diciendo que todo este asunto empezó con Viserys y su necedad de tener un heredero hombre, y no quitar como mano a Otto desde el momento en que desposó a su hija, no ayudó.
Alicent it’s not a victim
Alicent is by all accounts even worse than her father
This whole story is devastating i dont even wanna watch anymore💔
I think if Rhaenys whispered to me like that I'd go full Halsey and follow her to the graveyard
nice one
Otto was the problem
But she changed her mind and made peace with Raenyra on the Throne but Viserys fuck up because he was sick and misinterpreted a this point it's not really Otto fault
Rhaenyra is the problem
Alicent had hurted Rhaenyra in every way...And then she acted so offended with her. 😒
Ali had that eye towards Rhae from the beginning like she wanted everything she had for herself
Dumb question. Alicent already fought for Aegon against her father. She already knew controlling her son meant that she is the Iron Throne.
Well... It's Rhaenys, the one who destroyed a whole sept with her dragon and killed tons of folks only to fly away when her ennemies were the most vulnerable😂😅
First she married her father, took her throne and then killed one of her kids.
First to see this nice edit❤❤
They wanted to be friends but political circumstances made it impossible. Even in adulthood they wanted to ammend their friendship but it was way too late... ;( A sad tale that of this 2 and what it could have been. I dont blame Alicent nor Rhaenyra at all... it was more Otto and Viserys and a chain of events and bad decisions.
Moi mure moi mure moi mure moi mure moi mure moi mure moi mure moi mure
Moje more
That means my sea 😊
Or my nightmares
Lai la lai la
By the time the third Moi more hits, i get goose bumps all over.
Spoiler ahead everyone is going to die in this series. Be prepared, the only one to rule is Rhaenyra's Youngest son with Daemon.
Alicent is just cuckoo
Beautiful
Well, if there is politics involve what can you expect it destroy the person and everything around it, leaving a vacuum of position to fulfil by others
Alicent is easily the most evil character in all of the series and books. Cersei at least loved Jamie and loved her children. Alicent loves nothing. She feels for nothing. She’s purely driven by taking power. Even Tywin and really loathsome characters like him (The Mountain, Little Finger, etc) had a devotion to someone or something else that made them human. Alicent is just full fledged out for as much power as she can and the worst part is she tries to hide it as her being honorable. She destroyed Rhanera’s claim out of jealousy that her friend would be ruler and she wouldn’t. Shes disgusting.
Wtf ? Alicent loves her children more than anything, how could you miss this information ? She want the Iron Throne to protect her children, how does that makes her evil ?
Are you watching with your eyes closed lmao
I will never understand why Alicent felt so entitled to Iron Thorne because she birthed a son, like has this girl forgot that her BEST FRIEND was supposed to be queen, why take that away from Rhaenyra Alicent is such a fake friend
Well, her father told her Rhae would kill her children to strenghten her claim to the throne, and at Driftmark, when her son has been maimed for life by Rhae's son, Rhae suggest Alicent's son (who has been maimed for life) to be tortured only to protect the legitimacy of her children.
I don't think Alicent is entitled to the throne, she just has all these facts in front of her eyes, how could she not think Rhae capable of murdering her children after that ? She just tries her best to protect her children from the succession mess that will obviously happen
Alicent never cared about his children they were just a means to allow Hightower bloodline to ascend to the Iron Throne, nothing more.
@@sergioconsonni2174She literally stands in front of a dragon to defend Aegon
@@jaijoerik6233
That scene didn't make the slightest sense and it only happened in the series, not in the book. Alicent in the book is completely different from the one in the series. They tried to make her more likable but in doing so they ruined her character.
Spoilers
In the book he attempted to convince his latest granddaughter Jaehaera to kill one of Rheanyra's children a 9 year old boy and if he did so both Alicent and his granddaughter would be the first to be blamed for his death and would have them both burned he lives for this.
Proving that Alicent only cared about getting revenge on Rheanyra and was willing to sacrifice a traumatized and scared 8 year old girl to do so.
If Alicent had a backbone Rhaenyra would have fought for her tooth and nail.
When?
Moye Moye Moye Moye Moye moye😂😂
I neeeeeeed to watch this. I havent even watch got... i have to get some money and watch it all in a month. 😅
Mmmm😮😮
I hope we see her finally drowning in the power of the Iron Throne next season
Alicent is a victim card player 😂
I loathe Alicent. Absolutely hate her character. Not Queen by blood... so for me she's not a real Queen.
Anyone else prefer the younger actress as Rhaenyra? Just holds a lot more attitude.
🥶🥶🥶
It hits harder when the actresses confirmed Rhaenyra and Alicent were bi-best friends with benefits
Note moye moye
what's the song
I can't see how Rhaenyra is better than Alicent at anything except being a mother. About that, Alicent's mom died so it's hard for her to know how to be good at it.
She is the rightful hair
@@Meenakshi_min Aegon is the firstborn son of the king
@@Meenakshi_mintechnically speaking no she is not, no one accepted her as such, nor does she has any redeeming qualities to make up for her low claim on the throne
@ZollaREAL there is no low claim. She was NAMED HEIR. By their own laws she is the rightful ruler.
@zenovirag4194 that means nothing if the successor was chosen. It's not guaranteed to the first born son. Also technically he's the second born son.
Jesus, i cann't take all the Alicent Hate, Otto did for her what the Tyrells did for Margaery, and Rheanyra became resentful when Viserys married her
To each our own perspective, I guess.
@@whil-mariphiland8649That's literally what happened. It's not a perspective lmfao.
At least Margaery owned up to it. She never apologised for acting deceitful and she fully accepted and owned up to her and her grandmother’s actions. Alicent is quite content to let others rule over her and then act like she had no idea what was really happening when the ball dropped? Girl bye.
Oh my god literally shut up, she’s one of the worst characters in the show and supports her rapist baby
@MikeCoxmaul Alicent isn't some innocent sweet girl. She chose to disgrace her husband's will, she chose to start a war with her friend, she chose to betray her.
What is the name of this movie?
I just love this song. Is it like Serbian or Polish? A lot of common vocabulary with Ukrainian, so that’s why i assumed it’s definitely something Slavic.
ruclips.net/video/9vq0xLtiq40/видео.htmlsi=SZVed4BHvzwAUmE1
Definitely not polish, but really beautiful.
politics master 64 XD
Nobody hâte Alicent more than me
Or me
Alicent kinda caused the baby to be stillborn as well the shock put her into labor
If you want to play that game we can also say Rhaenyra caused Luke's death by sending him without any protection to Lord Borros 😂😅
All just chains of events~
@@chaperonrouge8309 nga shut up I like alicent I was just saying that pretty much is what happened.
@@Targaryens_ Why are you so agressive ?
My exemple is pretty much the same as yours, just with more links to the chain. As I said, all is just chains of events, nothing more
@@chaperonrouge8309 nga cuz you thought I was hating and you were very sarcastic about it nga
@@Targaryens_ So you insulted me just because of a sarcasm ? Your comment litteraly said Alicent had a part of responsability for Rhaenyra's miscarriage. I tried to make you understand my point with sarcasm, did it hurt you ?
I will reframe my sentence then : No, Alicent don't have any responsability in it. Just like if you tell someone to take the bus and he dies because of this bus you're not responsible. If you wanted to blame Alicent do it, there is much to blame about her actions, but this isn't. Or if you wanted to blame someone for Rhaenyra's miscarriage, blame the Small Council
i like Alicent 😇
😂😂😂
❤
@@ShadyQueenReads you need to rewatch.
I too ❤
Music?
Making Rhaenyra heir was the worst decision Viserys ever made. Prove me wrong.
TEAM 💚
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Alicent is to blame for everything
No rhaneyra should have been blamed she had 3 bastards
I think the writer is to blame
Rhaenyra should be blamed for everything.
@debamlyabanerjee4067 her husband wasn't able to perform and she had to produce heirs. What was she supposed to do?
@@desolationking7911 she didn't do that for the heirs she could have put aside the marriage and marry another man and another thing bastards are not heirs and already had trueborn heirs she had 3 brothers so there is no issue for her houses extinction
Well, I've officially watched enough clips of this show, that I want to watch the actual show 😢
Watch game of thrones first then this.
You don’t need to watch game of thrones first, it truly doesent matter which one you watch first because they are both completely different!😊
She was her friend then she wasn’t
Which season is this?
Season 1
Oh yeah, let's make Alicent the great traitor. After all, in the Middle Ages, a girl could not listen to her father or disobey the king, who asked not to say anything to Rhaenyra. Are you seriously?
It's refreshing to see a green comment, the black ones are awfully blind to some aspects of the conflict 😅💚
But she's a traitor. Rhaenyra never did Alicent wrong, she kept protecting Alicent and for what...? Alicent's only point as a Queen was to harass Rhaenyra. She understood nothing about politics. She had years to evolve as a queen but she only upgraded Criston who abused Rhaenyra's sons, harassed Rhaenyra's sons, and she protected the killer of their father....While raising her rapist of a son to usurp Rhaenyra. She's the og traitor.
@@LolLilol-uw3ou Alicent was forced to seduce and marry the king. After what Rhaenyra abandoned her and when they were in good terms again, Rhaenyra asked her father to send far away the only emotional support Alicent had.
You can see her as a traitor as you wish, but things are more complex than just "this one is wrong" or "this one is right".
"Alicent's only point as a Queen was to harass Rhaenyra" Are you talking about the time she asked to see the baby ? Rhaenyra could have refused or waited, she just wanted to see the baby, it's not harassment.
"She understood nothing about politics" Much more than Rhaenyra ever did if we see the alliances she tried to make after Aegon's coronation or how she handled King's Landing when her husband couldn't
"She had years to evolve as a queen but she only upgraded Criston who abused Rhaenyra's sons" She took the King's place in the Small Council, isn't that enough of an evolution ? And no, Criston just favored Alicent's sons, he didn't abuse Rhaenyra's sons and only suggested a fight when Harwin questionned his training abilities.
"she protected the killer of their father" Come on, who would have believed her ? She had no proof except what Larys said to her.
"raising her rapist of a son to usurp Rhaenyra" She just told him they have to be united as a family because Rhaenyra could see him as a threat and thus being close with the children of a potential enemy is not a good idea
@chaperonrouge8309 Lolllllll. Otto is the one who sold Alicent to Viserys lol. If anything, Alicent should be happy about him getting fired. And of course Rhaenyra had the right to be angry, anyone would have been. Also, Otto literally told Alicent that Rhaenyra would never become Queen. Alicent always knew about her father's plans, everyone knew. She was well aware that her father would make sure that Rhaenyra doesn't become Queen and she indulged him. After the death of Lyonel Strong, she gave him back the title of hand of the king. Thank you for confirming how much of a traitor she was.
Episode 6, Lyonel Strong literally explains that Rhaenyra and the children could die especially because Alicent was so keen in exposing the children's biological father even so no-one cared.
And No. Rhaenyra cannot just refuse anything she wants to the Queen. We saw that in episode 4 literally. So the baby had to be brought to Alicent and Rhaenyra was scared obviously because Alicent was trying to have them all killed ( episode 6 Lyonel Strong speech ). And asking to see a baby right after childbirth is just disrespectful and disgusting anyway. And she did it to pressure Rhaenyra, that disgusts me.
And denying that Criston abused the children really ???? He literally kept asking to Aegon to hit Jacaerys even when the latest was on the floor.
Also Alicent was useless as a Queen. She proved that in episode 6 during the council. She literally said " Let someone else deal with the conflict between the Brackens and Blackwoods " when it's literally Jahaerys who made both house stop their little feud... Alicent's words were all about letting people fight lol. And then she got angry because obvious Rhaenyra understood politics way better. Only thing she did as a Queen was to harass Rhaenyra, her children and protect her rapist of son while gaslighting his victims.
Oh and please... She literally told him that everyone knew that someday he would become king while Aegon didn't even care lol. Nah cause team green really ignores half of the show.
@@LolLilol-uw3ou I can't remember a single moment where Rhaenyra defended Alicent. Initially, Otto ordered Alicent to visit the king, after some time Viserys asked Alicent not to tell Rhaenyra anything about their communication. Alicent tortured her hands and worried about it. She did not betray Rhaenyra, because... didn't owe her anything. After her marriage to the king, she sincerely tried to make peace with Rhaenyra, who rejected her. The father tried to convince Alicent to turn the king against his daughter in order to put Aegon on the throne, but the girl did not do this. She didn't set up the princess. Instead, she gave political advice to Viserys, such as helping Daemon in the war. At this time, the heir to the throne was not even aware that Westeros was waging some kind of struggle. It's funny... Finally, in episode 4, the friends "made a truce." Otto denounced Rhaenyra, Viserys tried to find the culprit, but Alicent defended her friend in front of the king. She believed Rhaenyra and decided that her father had lied. As a result, she was left completely alone at court and realized that she had been deceived. The friend lies, her father covers up the adventures of the prodigal daughter, and the price of this lie is the father of Alicent herself. Despite everything, she was a faithful wife to Viserys, honestly observed all customs and orders, and took care of the king. Rhaenyra herself ruined her reputation at court when she did not even try to hide her extramarital affair and gave birth to bastards. Then she fled the castle when the gossip reached enormous proportions. Realizing that she would lose her crown very quickly, she jumped into Damon's bed on the day of his wife's funeral, a few days after the funeral of her beloved.
When Aemond's eye was cut out, Rhaenyra accused Aemond of spreading rumors even though everyone knew the truth about the bastards. The princess knew that talking about bastards was punishable by death. And yet she blamed it on the child who was bleeding because of her son. Viserys took his daughter’s place even here, without even punishing the bastard. For Alicent this was a real betrayal. After all, the history of the past repeated itself. Otto was right. Rhaenyra could condemn Alicent's son to death, and the king would still support her.
Further, the princess did not visit her sick father, although she knew that he was under the supervision of the Hightowers. She was too carried away by the endless birth of children, forgetting that she was actually an heiress. At this time, the Hightowers ruled the capital. In your opinion, did they do their job poorly? The country prospered, Otto gave advice to the old king, and now to Alicent. Rhaenyra didn't care much. What made her a good queen? The fact that she didn’t kill the deer in episode 3?)) But when the question arose about the inheritance of her illegitimate children, she went to the capital once again to ask for her father’s help. Together with Damon, they accused Alicent of improper care, although they themselves did nothing for him. When the daughter came to her father at night to ask for help, he called her Alicent, because it was his wife who honestly did her job all these years, served the kingdom, maintained her honor and dignity. The Queen did not try to denigrate Rhaenyra; she dealt with it without Alicent. Finally, Alicent heard the last words about Aegon and thought that Viserys had changed his mind. This was not a betrayal, but an error of interpretation. She really decided that the king wanted a different heir. She was terribly tormented by her conscience even in this situation, which suggests that she didn’t give a damn about Rhaenyra despite their painful past.
Rhaenyra wasn’t exactly kind to Alicent either, don’t know why she’s so surprised.
Also Alicent genuinely believes that Viserys wanted Aegon on the throne. She was never told about the prince who was promised. So hearing aegons name, in the same sentence of saving the realm and being king, would obviously make her believe Viserys wanted Aegon on the throne. Remember that Viserys also told her he had a dream that his son would sit on the iron throne one day during Aegons name day (in front of the fire) , he even broke down to her about how he made a mistake and the only reason he supports Rhaenyra’s claim was because he feels he killed her mother.
Lastly: if Rhaenyra stuck to her word, she would’ve been crowned. She told Alicent she would see the children back home, and fly back on dragon back because they had just started to rekindle their friendship, yet after like a full day or two, Rhaenyra was seen chilling at home with no intention of returning to Kingslanding.
??????? LOLLLL. Rhaenyra had to burn her own mother and brother because she wasn't born a son and her best friend somehow end up marrying her father after the death of her mother. She had the right to be angry. Rhaenyra never harassed Alicent nor her children. Alicent abused Rhaenyra's children and Rhaenyra. She protected the killer of Harwin. Rhaenyra always protected Alicent, always tried to stand for peace... She went against her father and Daemon for Alicent. Rhaenyra would have made a good Queen but maybe she was too trusting.
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To be fair, I always supported that Rhaenyra was a good girl, but Alice sense was corrupted by her father. I lost, hoping her five minutes into the shower.
Its crazy how yall dont understand Alicent's actions make sense. Its realistic for her to fight like this, if she didnt there is little doubt Rhaenyra would have all of her children KILLED as they are competition for the throne. Should some courtiers decide they no longer like Rhaenyra, Aegon is a convienient alternative - literally the kings first born son lol. If Alicent is any type of mother at all she will always make these decisions to protect her children.
There is none so accursed as the kinslayer. Rhaenyra wouldn't kill her siblings just to shore up her claim. If they pledged to support her she wouldn't have touched a hair on their heads. In real life, Henry VII and Elizabeth I had to deal with this kind of thing and they tried very hard not to slay their kin.
This rhetoric was purposefully fed to Alicent by Otto to turn her against Rhaenyra. Please take a moment to think critically here.
@@allypally1768 If you chose to be naive and lack critical thinking that's fine but don't accuse me of it. Real people have killed their own siblings to shore up their claims to thrones but sure, a fictional character like Rhaenyra who has been shown to make countless bad decisions and show little accountability for them is suddenly above such actions lol
@@allypally1768 Also the main reason Elizabeth I was truly against murdering Mary of Scots was because it meant one monarch could pass judgement on another and that she herself could be put on trial and would no longer be untouchable. Her actual siblings were already dead so she didn't have to worry about disposing of them but her own sister Mary had her imprisoned and was seriously considering executing her for much of her reign lol
@@celestielsigh and why didn't her sister execute her? Because kinslaying is frowned upon. In the ASOIAF universe, kinslaying is even more serious. People accused Robb Stark of being a kinslayer for executing a Karstark. If Rhaenyra could avoid killing her family, she would. If her siblings swore fealty to her, she would've spared them. It's really that simple. Aegon offered Dragonstone to Rhaenyra to prevent her allies from fighting him and also to keep himself from being a kinslayer. If you really think Rhaenyra wouldn't do anything she could to avoid killing them you're an idiot.
@@allypally1768 She would ne dumb to not kill Alicent's children tbh.
And to Alicent's POV, Rhaenyra already killed Laenor to marry her newly widowed uncle and wanted to torture Alicent's injured son over an insult towards her kin
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This is no queen 😢
Technically vicerys had to take out whole family of rehnarya becoz she had sons with strong.....
So technically vicerys and renyera are bad guys
Her mother, brother, friend, her children's father, her father,her throne,her daughter, her son and now the loyal Erryk.. she almost lost everything and greens calling her cruel😶
Nobody's going to even remember this show by the time they finish 2nd season
Season 2 is already filmed and will come up in early summer. Trailer most likely January or maybe even December if we are lucky.
It's coming out in June 2024. It gives you time to rewatch it lol
Как называется сериал?
@@Alejojojo6trailer has been released 🎉
It comes out next summer. Anyone who can’t remember season 1 just has a shit memory
in reality Alicent wanted to protect her children. Rhaenyra was a mad woman who could do anything for power she even got her own husband killed , had many bastards , was a spoiled daughter’s
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You watched the show with your feet. Rhaenyra was so privileged that she had to burn her own mother because she wasn't born as a male.
@@LolLilol-uw3ou It's a Targ tradition (and OP is talking about after that, when Viserys cared only about her and not about his wife or other children)
@chaperonrouge8309 And it doesn't make in any better so your point ??? Viserys sold Rhaenyra to the Velaryons to make up for his own refusal to marry Laena. He stood up for Rhaenyra once, that's it. Out of that, he literally let Alicent abuse her and her children for years. He even let Alicent attack Rhaenyra, the heir to the Iron Throne.
ALICENT WANTED HER TRUEBORN CHILD, SON OF VISERS TARGARYEN ON THE THRONE. RHAENYRA SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT DRAGON STONE ALONG WITH DAEMON, AND LEAVE THE THRONE TO AEGON.
What's wrong with fighting for your birthright?
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Nobody care what alicent wanted to be😂
The most stupid Targeryen King...
iron is so rusty
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man i don’t like alicents father.
I’m team green, Rhaenyra shouldn’t have married Daemon.
From what I’ve seen of house of dragons so far.
The women aren’t as nice to look at as GoT.
You’re gross
@@ollieno971you're grosser
Fuck the Targaryen line, let’s go Bobby B .
Alicent>Rhaenyra in every way
Alicent>Rhaenyra in a sense of selling feet pics, covering up rapes and being a complete and utter hypocrite? Yes.
@@Dreamfyre the greens too blind for this, or i could say too stupid
@@Dreamfyre Rhaenyra literally raped Criston Cole. Alicent atleast didn't commit rape herself.
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They’re both
@@Dreamfyre The “cover up” was the best Alicent could do for her. What else was she supposed to do? Let people know so that they could all take Aegon’s side & blame & ruin Dyana? Let’s not forget that Daemon & Nyra are both murderers. + they both made stupid decisions due to their superiority complex which helped lead to their downfall
i feel sorry for alicent.shes just a victim of her own father's greed to power
Rhaenyra is not a damsel in distress, she is cunning and sly but pretends to be the victim. The real victim in the story is Alicent who got played in the name of love.
Хрень, весь сериал нытьё двух идиоток.
Весь сериал не могла понять почему эти курицы не померились и Рейнира после пятой серий сликом вся ниччасная, всеми прошенная, и почемуто её показываю как положительного персонажа хотя у ниё омаральные поступки и опсолютно не понятно зачем ей трон ей же насрать на него, даже два раза пыталась от него откозаться.
Алисента и вовсе совершила самый тупой перевород, она прикрасно знала что Визерису сильно срать на её детей. Неужели она настолько тупая и подумала что он говорит о её сыне.
Rhenyes is dumbest character ever , just take your granddaughters and make them your future heir and take revenge from daemon and rhanyara because like they are kinda reason your children are dead ( her daughter wanted to come to driftmark but daemon said no, lanoer is not dead in the show but she thinks his dead)