Turkish "Enfauser" - Mauser/Enfield Hybrid Rifle
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In the mid 1930s, Turkey updated and overhauled the bolt action rifles in its inventory, to bring them all up to that same standard for sights, ammunition, sling configuration, etc. Most of the rifles overhauled were Mausers of various vintages, but some were other designs, like Gewehr 88s...and British Lee Enfields. Yep, the Turks converted Lee Enfield rifles (mostly Magazine Lee Enfields and Charger-Loading Lee Enfields, but also some SMLEs) to have Mauser sights and furniture and fire 8mm Mauser ammunition.
These hybrid rifles have no formal designation, and are usually called "Enfausers" or "Mausenfields" by people in the collecting community. Only a few hundred were brought into the US, apparently by accident among vast imports of Turkish Mauser rifles over the last few decades. They are made from rifles captured in the siege of Kut and the Gallipoli campaign - this particular one came from the 103rd Mahratta Light Infantry, which surrendered at Kut in April 1916.
Thanks to viewer Wyatt for providing the rifle for me to film!
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Mauser in the streets, Enfield in the sheets
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Turkish officer here! Thanks for the video very nice to see these things are still somewhere operating and doing their job.
On the magazine bottom plate shows the archaic ottoman style number 404. Possibly snatched from a G98 which was died for another reason. As Turkey changed the whole alphabet system in 1928 into latin, Ankara arsenal would not stamp them in ottoman script.
Also quite a number of indian bikaner camel troops served in Sinai and Palestine campaign might be one of those too.
Lastly they were THE rifles given to village guards as late as 1980.
lordanglachel Can you explain "Village Guards " please. A type of civilian community police force?
Sure, as PKK was born in late 1970's and started an armed insurrection in the Turkish southeast a government paid village militia was formed among the locals which still is operating today. They were paid less than ordinary policemen's wage, armed with bolt actions (like the ones above, and in extreme cases Mauser 1888s) and have been pretty decentralized. At first government was unsure where this would lead so they created such a force as an auxillary and handed them inferior weaponry to fight alongside Turkish army and gendarmerie. They did so due to the fear that village guards being mostly kurds themselves would donate their weaponry to the insurgents, or at worst personally join themselves. But they proved to be loyal indeed. On the other hand PKK was traditionally armed with AK's and DshK's so among the village guards fatalities were commonplace in 1980's. So having the possession of an assault rifle became a prestige for them in time. FN FAL was highly prized for example. After mid 90's they all had automatic weapons in one way or the other. Mostly captured stock so they either gave these bolt actions back to the arsenal or somehow keeping them for nostalgic purposes.
lordanglachel Thank you for that comprehensive reply.
Ekşi sözlükdeki anglachelm siz misiniz? Yorumunuzdaki üslubunuz ve nickinizden fikir yürüttüm. Bayılarak takip ediyorum sizi sözlükte. Özellikle ayrıntısını çok merak ettiğim, kafamı kurcalayan İran-Irak Savaşı hakkında araştırma yaparken entrynize denk gelip soluksuz okumuştum ve aydınlandım. Eski bir mekanize piyade tanksavar (MILAN) asteğmen olarak sizi selamlıyorum !
@@aldeniro6361 evet galiba o üslubu ve nicki birbirine benziyor
Hi Ian, the "T.C." marking stands for "Türkiye Cumhuriyeti" which translates into Turkish Republic. Turkish Army, actually more so Turkish Armed Forces, however is abbreviated as T.S.K. ("Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri").
+ "Ankara" is a city
Could have been an Arsenal there.
and Ankara isn't just any city......it's the capital.
Gavin Yong its in the middle of the country its pretty hard to get to there afaik big arsenals were in canakkale balikesir gaziantep samsun soo yeah (by the way i lack history knowledge big time fyi)
You studied your lesson all of this information is true and I am from Turkey well done.
TSK = Turkish Armed Forces
"Mauser/Enfield Hybrid Rifle"
But that's forbidden love!
No, Hitomi, it’s just beyond your comprehension!
It's Anglo-German...like the Queen or a BMW Mini.
Thomas Or the L85 A2
RGM 96X Is the Jesta your favorite Mobile Suit?
Thomas made me spit my coffee out
I asked my Turkish great grandfather '' What is the most beautiful thing in the world?'' He said ''Mavzer Rifle''. I was expecting him to say something like my family. He insisted mauser is the best thing in the world because you can use it at both close range with bayonets and long range. This guy fought in WW1
R u fully Turkish too or just ur great grandfather
@@kemalk3953 Check his pp. Nuf said🤣
I wish I had a great grandfather, hell I all settle for a grandfather, at least I got my father thank god.
@@Alpaslann ?
@@roskcity His pp was a Turkish actor from way back. 70s stuff.
The foster home rifle. A child of the fractured relationship between England and Germany so was adopted by Turkey.
If nobody's suggested it yet, I'd like to propose "Field Maus"
Field Maus! I had to scroll down way too far to find this comment.
Mausfield.
@@sill5876 better.
Me in a field?
@@MausOfTheHouse We all would love to see that, believe me :D
These are all scattered around Black Sea region of Turkey as wall hangers and ye ol gramps bear deterrent. Never truly understood what exactly they were but everyone calls them Mauser (mavzer in Turkish). Now I know. Thanks Ian.
@@TheAsheybabe89 well you know the black sea is mostly forrests
so yeah "bear detterent"
I know them from Giresun region as well. Funny that I find them here.
So Turkey, you want a Mauser or an Enfield
Turkey: YES
Ja
As bayrakları as as 🇹🇷 🇩🇪
😃 😄 😅
@EkemkArası Sucuk aynen
İm turkish
That mauser is a MONUMENT. That shows the standardization efforts of a new born republic, which has extremely limited source of simply any kind, after a great global economic depression, just few years before a world war breaks out. (WW2). (1930s).
Ian, special hearth-full of regards and thanks to your friend, who owns this piece of Turkish history. Thank you to show and share such important piece. Fantastic channel, matchless on its genre.
Since the “Enfield” portion was the barrel rifling and “Lee” was the action, this rifle might be better called a “Lee-Mauser” .
Lauser, Mausee?
And the Pattern 1913/P14/M1917 could be Mauser-Enfields!
Lmau
@@BioHazardra Lmauser
Mausalee
One of my local shops had a beat up Enfield that apparently was from Egypt. It had a detachable mag, complicated aperture sight, and was chambered for a Japanese round.
do you remember which one? 6.5 arisaka or 7.7 japanese?
Nobody:
RUclips: Let's recommend this video to Turks after 2 years
Harbiden oyle.
Lmao same
exactly hahaha
Google knows more about us than we know about us.
Vallah tam böyle oldu 😂
This rifle does have a name: It is called “Kirikkale”, which is the name of the town in central Turkey where they were built.
Tabanca değil mi o
@@TONYUKUK1881 Tabanca olarak da var
Kar98 Değil mi ks (kurtuluş savaşı)nda Kırıkkale Kar98'idi
@@aguyfrominternet2333 kar 98 alman silahı...
Abi adamlar Cahil işte baksana her şeyi biliyor ama ismini bilmiyor
Pretty cool to see, thanks for the info. My Great Grandfather (i never met him) apparently had a Mauser rifle and i always wanted to look it up and see what kind he had. But all the info i could get from my family was that he had a "Mavzer" (Mauser rifle) and that it was pretty short.
He fought in WWI and then owned his Mauser in civilian life after his service. He was a farmer and adventurer. Many breathtaking and impressive stories i've heard from my grandma and other family elders. Apparently he shot a wolf with it that had come into the village and hidden in a barn. Or he was the last survivor of his squad in WWI. And many other interesting stories like that.
Also he owned a revolver, but i couldn't get any detailed info on that one.
Eventually government officials went from house to house the village, collecting ALL weapons. I guess they just wanted to deweaponize the people for whatever reason. That's when my great grandfather gave up his Mauser to the government.
I heard that the revolver still exists and is in the hands of some of my relatives in Turkey.
Seems like it would have almost been easier to build a new rifle. They changed so much of it.
Jeff England I guess they must've just had a lot of surplus so it'd be wasteful to just scrap them all.
Sell them to Britain?
Jeff England barrels and receivers are (or were) probably impossible to machine to the right quality in Turkey back then, only a few places had the technical knowledge to make large production runs of precise machined weapons back then
Twirlip Of The Mists hey England, you know those rifles we looted from you in war, yeahhh were thinking about selling them back to you, at a discount price of course.
Now let's see 'em converted to semi-auto!
Hey Ian, TC stands for Türkiye Cumhuriyet, Republic of Turkey.
ASFA is Ankara Silah Fabrikası, Ankara Weapons Factory and Ankara itself is the capital.
I remember your Berthier conversion TC Orman rifle vid from years ago, nice to see another Turkish weapon. Too bad our military industrial complex back then were shit so we cant see much Turkish rifles.
Dud why you say shit? Yes it was bad since the republic was new but cmon, at least dont say shit
It was not shit nor bad
It was *non-existing* back then
We won the war of liberation, got rid of all our enemies and saved the Anatolia with our military industry that you sad shit back then. This is the great accomplishment for the nation who fought WW1 and take a serious damage. We wrote the honorable history with inadequate resources. You should look in this way my pal. Bakış açını değiştir yani güzel dostum. :)
Nice to see Gun Jesus handling a “Turkish” gun, cheers from Turkey!
I think Mausfield fits better, but then again I am but a mere follower of Gunjesus. His word is always true and I now feel like I am a doubting Gunthomas
That would be my name for it as well.
Not a doubting Thomson?
I have a Turkish Mauser in 8mm. It's still accurate and I use it for hunting. It's got a long barrel on it. I was going to cut the barrel, but I decided against it. I love that rifle a lot. I just replaced the stock because I didn't want to tap the rifle for a scope. The stock came with a scope rail molded on it. It was an ATI mauser stock.
@@justforever96 8mm Mauser ammo ain't cheap, but it's got knock down power.
@@AndrewMartinez1776Redux 8mm Mauser is a lot less expensive than 303brit. Actually, other than Soviet surplus 7.62x54R or 308win/7.62NATO in bulk, the 8mm is about the least expensive of the full-power cartridges that are commonly available. It's certainly easier to get than 6.5mm Swedish. At least that's the case here.
Even though I am 64 years old and a lifelong "gunner" I learn things almost every day from Forgotten Weapons.
68, and I second that!
@@ashleysmith3106 I am 81, and I third that.
Ian- I've watched most of your videos and theyre all great. LOTS of cool guns, but as a Mauser and Enfield nerd, this thing has to be the coolest rifle you've shown, for my money. Keep up the good work, thanks!
About the modified magazine plate; those markings are Arabic numerals and i believe it is 404 but cant bet on it. But what i know for sure is Turkish Republic stopped using Arabic numerals and letters and begin to use Latin Alphabet in 1928. That means magazine plate marked before that date. Thank you very much for sharing this relic from my history.Also another trivia alone crescent was used by Ottoman Empire (or state i don't know correct terminology). Turkish Republic always used Crescent and the Star.
I think you are totally right. That plate must come from Ottoman times.
Well spotted!
Mausenfield sounds better to me. Neat gun.
I have waited 5 years (Turkish Berthier Carbine) to see another Turkish rifle in this channel. Keep up the good work and hope to see more Turkish made rifles since we don't get to use them here in Turkey but you guys do :)
Interesting to see... still sad that gunny r lee ermey passed away...
marlangelXXVIII did he? Oh that's a shame. I hadn't heard about that.
That’s interesting you know what makes me sad, you do, maybe we should chug on over to namby pamby land where maybe we can find some comfort for you ya jack wagon.
RIP Gunny I hope he’s bringing some hell to heaven.
AussieFanXCIV do i make you sad? Does my existence upset you? Maybe there is a reason why God put me into this world. Either way i can’t please everybody but its your opinion that i make you sad. In my opinion this video is very interesting because that rifle is rare to be seen by a filipino. There are no lee enfields here in the philippines but mausers. And hybrids like these have good stories to tell. Further more in my opinion if i make you sad then sorry i just wanna tell the news on what happened to gunny besides he is also respected in the firearm community.
AussieFanXCIV also i wanna add that calling me names will not solve problems in this world. Did you kiss your mother with that mouth?
marlangelXXVIII ruclips.net/video/APwfZYO1di4/видео.html I was joking it’s a quote from the greatest commercial of all time starring the Gunny himself. Trust me I’m bummed out too.
They usually used these guns or their replicas in Gallipoli War documentaries as far as I'm aware of. Not a single Mauser G98 or an Enfield, but these hybrids. I wasn't sure if it was a Mauser or Enfield or some different rifle. Thanks Mr. McCollum.
Thank you Turkish people for adding insight. I visited Turkey in 1990 and Izmir was my favorite.
My god that's gotta be the best analogy I've ever heard. "Its kinda like a mullet, Enfield in the back and Mauser in the front" . Fantastic
its a really unique one dude. thanks for info. i wondered how did you get it ? i mean my granfather was an officer in turkish gendarmee and they used gewehr 98 variations until mid 1950's. since mid 50's they used american garand rifles but this hybrid riffle is definetely unique one. probably this one maded in old riffle depots called ''baruthane'' in ankara. but probably asfa means ''ankara silah fabrikası a.k.a, ''gun factory of ankara'' nice video dude
Now that is one I’ve never seen or even heard of! 👍😁👏👏 Thank you Ian. 🙏🏻
I wonder if Turkey tried to do this mauserification with captured Mosin Nagants.
William Prince I wonder about lebels too. The French lost a lot at gallipoli too
You mean Mauser Nagants?
More like... Mosin Nausers!
Torin Jones I have no idea about Lebels but a Turkish Ministry of Forestry Berthier rifle to carbine modification program exits. Ian did an episode on those.
They just drove them in the ground, for fence posts.
Thanks Wyatt For Loaning This Cool and Unusual Rifle To Gun Jesus the Purveyor Of History To Share It’s Amazing Ancestry 😮😮😮😎😀👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I Still Can't Get Over The Unnecessary Capitalization And Emojis lol
It's only been an hour and a half. Give it time.
He does this on almost every video
My computer can't understand your emojis, therefore they are irrelevant.
I'm a big fan of both the Mauser and the Enfield rifles and variants and this was a super interesting video. Thanks Ian!
Nice presentation. Ishapore arsenal still exists to this day. Just 20 Kms north of my home. They make mordern arms and ammo for Indian defence forces and hunting rifles. Maratha light infantry still exists and is a regiment now.
5:58
(T)Türkiye (C)Cumhuriyeti
Rupublic of Turkey
(A)Ankara (S)silah (FA) fabrikası
Ankara gun factory
Hello Ian, I'm a big fan of your program. In particular, I like how you explain the technical details and functions of individual weapons. However, what I miss is, that you do not use ammunition (dummies) for more detailed illustrations when discussing detailed explanations of how to feed the bolt and eject the cartridge cases. I am convinced that you can then make a much more accurate picture of the breech, the shooting, repeating process and the cartridge case ejection. My request, please use dummies or practice ammunition in the future, in order to better visualize the described technical processes.
Greetings from Germany by Bruno Nickert
The fast action of the Enfield, combined with the cannon, the sights and the cartridge of the Mauser ... seems a superrifle!!!!
it's times like this when i really really want a longer video.
The Enfauser -- Wasn't that the name of a Clint Eastwood movie? Pre-spaghetti western era when he was doing makarna-westerns in Turkey?
Wasn't that Enforcer?
This is outstanding. Thank you for sharing.
The turkish have been bubba'ing rifles before bubba.
its nice to see beautifully conserved piece of history. Thanks.
I saw a commission rifle converted my the turks last week. Didn't know of how it came about but i guess you learn something every day.
This piece is fantastic. It's creation, History, and probable provenence.
A frankenstein child of my two favorite bolt action rifles, damn i want one now.
I'm surprised they just didn't sell off (or scrap) and replace them entirely, given the amount of rework it took. Great video BTW
A gun that's strict business (German) in the front, and drunken pirate party (British) in the back... interesting.
Only one end knows victory comrade
im a simple turk i read turkish, i click on it
That is a cool rifle with an interesting history
I'd love to own one of these rifles. They have a LOT of history.
You see son, when mommy Mauser and daddy Enfield love each other very much.....
Hey! Cool! I held and fiddled around with one I found in the gunshop near me. I still regret not just buying it, but it was still pretty cool. Hell, it might still be there when the shop opens up again when the ownership chamge finishes.
It was dated 1936 with 1908 Enfield parts. The pictures I have are a little fuzzy, but I think it says Mk 1** on the right side and CLLE with what I guess is a capital E below it and it also has an SMLE muzzlecap.
Finally something appears here that I have handled!
Wow! you just read the rifle's resume by just looking at it man. Damn! Bravo.
A boltmanteau, if you will.
I'd like to thank Wyatt as well for loaning his "Mausenfield" to Ian for this video. This is so bizarre and cool that this exists.
Excellent overview of a very interesting rifle.
This was the most Antiques Roadshow video Ian's done since the Louis XV rifle! Very interesting.
I’d propose “Mausfield” as a hybrid word for what we’re looking at. Sounds confusingly realistic.
Yes! a Forgotten Weapons Video!!!!!
You know there is a new one every day, right? :)
Yep but If I am one of the first ones to watch it it makes my day. :)
I have a suggestion can you do a Groza 4? would love to see a video on that gun.
@@ForgottenWeapons do mpt 76
This is not just a rifle. There is a history in it. dozens of manufacturers came together in a single gun.
I must see more of these Frankenstein guns!
I actually have a Turkish mauser with the year 1940 stamped on it I think a karbiner version because it's a karabiner bolt and barrel pattern
I never knew this, as a Turkish person, this is batshit crazy.
Such a cool piece with great history, I have several C&R rifles that I wish could speak and tell their horrific story.
I had a few opportunities to shoot with this mauser, it was really great feeling. Mine had some Arabic letters on it. Out of it, was exactly the same.
hi, for a number of corrections about Turkish part:
1.T.C is republic of turkey (Türkiye Cumhuriyeti), neither Turkish army (Türk Ordusu) nor Turkish armed forces (Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri)
2.ASFA stands for Fired Arms Factory (Ateşli Silahlar Fabrikası)
And here I'm sitting and watching this video from my home about 5 miles from Ishapore (or Ichhapur, if you pronounce it like us).
Underrated Names of the History :-
*Enfielausers*
*Mausenfield R-lee*
Just saw your vice news interview, it was interesting but they said Forgotten Weapons was Karls channel as well, just thought it was funny.
That's some high-level reporting on Vice's part! s/
Welp, they almost got it right. What was the VICE special like? I know they're pretty hit-or-miss depending on the subject and the individual journalists.
Whats the name of the video?
ruclips.net/video/MejYLJZ72rw/видео.html
Literally when I’m thinking of rifles they are on forgotten weapons the next day :)
Wowser(in a Christopher Walken voice)
Derek S nope, he's got a video on a Wouser already.
Très bonne video , j en ai appris beaucoup, merci pour votre travail, en espérant que cette chaîne perdure . Un français qui regarde vos vidéos
Can’t think of a word for this nice hybrid rifle.
Just when I thought I thought I've heard it all....damn now my collection is incomplete (again)......
Thanks for the story of the rifle! Really enjoyed your video as a Turk who lost both of his great grandfather in WW1
Very cool. Thanks Ian.
As to the origin of the CAI "1893"...
The New Magazine Floorplate is a Deep 1893 TM type ( note the Arabic script numbers).
LOOKING at an Enfauser from underneath, a Warehouse Gumby will easily mistake it for a True M1893,hence
the mistaken Import Stamp.
"GUMBY"...Aussie name for a Film Set roustabout, with little or no firearms knowledge...except which end goes Bang...( ie, Untrained Field Hand).
Doc AV
I have heard only 37 were imported. In any case I've always wanted one and know of only 1 person on all of the forums who has one. I'm 27 and started collecting at 15 when Turk mausers were still 90 dollar rifles.
This gone has traveled more countries than i ll ever be able to
Holy shit, Wyatt is my name! I'm not the one that loaned Ian this gun (I wish I was) but still, that's pretty cool.
5:51 ''TC'' means Türkiye Cumhuriyeti which means '' Republic of Turkey'' not Turkish army.
Aynı
We sometimes call it kırıkkale rifle. Kırıkkale is the place that they made these guns
Can I recommend a video: explanation of various styles and terminology of iron sights. leaf/peep, barley corn etc.
AS FA which we also see on bayonets means "ASKERI FABRIKA" which translates as Military Factory.
The markings on the magazine are numbers in the Arabic script, I think. That magazine bottom might be from another, scrapped Mauser in the Turkish inventory. Actually, most parts used probably came from scrapped Mausers.
A small tip: AS FA means Ankara Silah Fabrikası/ Ankara Weapons Factory
How can any one go dig deep about it history very brilliant of you. The 103 maratha light infantry was captured at siege of kut.
I would have added the Enfield Magazine to the Mauser 98 Action.
Turkey was one of the earliest adopters of Mauser rifles, 1890. Why they bought other manufacturers rifles is up to conjecture, but the Turks eventually recognized their error.
"Enfield in the back, Mauser in the front." 👌
8mm out of an Enfield. Yeah, while you fire that, I'll just be hiding behind that cinder block wall. You won't see me shouldering that thing. The problem is this: while 8mm Mauser's max pressure is only around 10% higher than that of an Enfield, the bolt thrust is around 20% higher. The Enfield's weakness is a tendency for the receiver to stretch and headspace to open up when fired with anything heavier than what it was designed for. Basically, a rifle like this only has a finite number of shots before it becomes unsafe to shoot and, from the bolt's perspective, each shot is basically a proof load. I suspect these saw very limited service and weren't really shot much in Turkish hands, as around that time K. Kale started producing NEW Mausers indigenously, negating the need for these unsafe conversions.
Ah, but that is what the reinforcing bar is for on the right side of the receiver. The Turks went through some trouble to install that so, I think, they were quite aware of the problem. You can come out from behind the cinder block wall and fire it if you come across one.
In theory it should accept the German 25 rd trench magazine. 😮
*Cough* He means British Empire troops at Gallipoli, not just the British themselves.
He means, winston churchill ;) he failed big. Ottomans (a.k.a. Turks) won Gallipoli, period.
Benokan Ruzgar the French were there too...
Don’t forget the ANZACs!!!
Alex Pickering who could! Popular history has it the entire operation was ANZACs
Benokan Ruzgar ....ahem......they lost the war........period. Then the Ottoman Empire completely collapsed. Churchill became prime Minister. Seems everything worked out well.
That is so fucking cool you know exactly where the rifle came from. I have some old milsurps that I would love to know the stories behind.
i don't know why this was recommended to me,i'm not even into guns...Probably because i'm Turkish tho.
Sen kafayı sıyırmışsın
same
Channel is pretty good, really has interesting weapons of ww1 and 2
meanings of the turkish markings:
T.C.--------> Republic of Turkey
AS FA-----> Military Factory
ANKARA-> City where the rifle manufactured, and also capital city of Turkey.
A lot of history in that rifle.
Ian! You gotta find us a Persian 98/29 mauser to take a look at!
Any weapon that can be deemed "kinda like a mullet" is worth owning, without a doubt.