Hikaru cheated Levon in 2016 candidates. That was OTB where there was security. Why wouldn't Hikaru cheat online where there's little to no security? That's more plausible than Hans' case: Hans cheated online and then all of a sudden Hans is expected to cheat OTB when there's so much security. Lol. --- Well to me personally someone's previous history of cheating is irrelevant as to whether or not I think they're cheating now - the only thing I care about is the tournament's level of security: If I were in the white house ( NUoCQ5A4w-A ) then I wouldn't care if, say, Ismail Haniyeh or whomever was there are as long as they were thoroughly checked. But if you really want to compare online to OTB, then be consistent.
@@nicbentulan Holy shit you are really stretching for that one. There are distinct differences between cheating and making an error. This happens in literally every sport, fouls, errors, whatever you want to call it. Hikaru accidentally touched his King which was correctly called out and a judge was called and it was corrected. I do judging for another game called Magic the Gathering where these things happen all the time and are easily resolved. It's when these things are done consistently and intent can be confirmed that it becomes an issue of cheating but misplays happen all the time. Don't grasp at straws just because you like one person over the other and want to make a case of cheating.
@@Mitsunari4Gunz 1 What's your opinion of when Garry cheated judit in 1994 Linares? 2 If it's not cheating then why did Levon call the arbiter? Cheating is the same thing as breaking the rules. We don't have fouls or yellow cards in chess or in 9LX. Cheating is cheating. 3 What's your opinion of when Magnus cheated Alireza in the 2019 blitz WCC? 4 And when Magnus cheated Anish in 2023 superbet blitz? 5 And when Garry cheated Alexei Shirov in 2000 PCA classical WCC? 6 How come chess players like Magnus, Garry, Hikaru, Liren, Daniil & Veselin are more evil than 9LX players like Wesley, Bobby , Hans , Nepo, Sergey & Vlad? Evil here is: - cheating - baselessly accusing - discriminating - betraying - or supporting those who do 7 How come the top 2 classical WCCs Magnus & Garry are cheaters, baseless accusers & traitors but the top 2 classical WFRCCs Wesley & Bobby never cheated, baselessly accused or betrayed? 8 Why do chess tournaments have cheating scandals while 9LX tournaments don't? 9 Why is it that Magnus Garry Hikaru have cheated in chess as adults while Wesley Bobby Hans never cheated in chess as adults? 10 What's your opinion of when Garry cheated Vishy in 1995 PCA classical WCC? 11 What's your opinion of when Magnus cheated Danya TWICE on lichess by getting help? 12 What's your opinion of when Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk in 2009 blitz WCC? 13 Have Wesley Bobby Hans Nepo Sergey Vlad ever cheated in chess as adults like even distracting opponents, touch move etc except possibly for A - the Wesley So writing notes thing B - When Bobby wrote down a move before making it Vs Mikhail Tal because at the time it was allowed ? Note: There's 'engine cheating' and then there's 'bullying cheating'.
@@nicbentulan Okay first things first, I'm not going into all your points because the reply here is about Hikaru and not all these other players you listed though I'm sure with some research I could debunk a number of those but I don't care much to do so. What I do care about is your definition of cheating as it is in chess and how you defend Hans who has been a PROVEN cheater yet when someone misplays you think it's the worse thing in the world. You change the argument to suit your needs, Hans cheated on multiple different occasions but because he was under 18 it's okay in your books. Hikaru made a human error which was corrected by a judge and no advantage was gained. This is nowhere close to using a cheating engine to literally tell you the best moves to make, you can't seriously put these on the same level and if you do then there is literally nothing I can say to you because you are that stubborn on your position. You call these guys bullies, but I can point out in many competitive sports that this is just how things are. For example in Basketball, a star player might over sell a play to get a foul call and because they are a star they get the call. Is this cheating? No it's playing the game and using every advantage to win. It's up to the refs, judges, arbiters or whoever in whatever sport that is to call these situations and punish them accordingly, be it a foul, yellow card or merely correcting the situation. You make every excuse you can for people you like or feel are ethical and offer no benefit of the doubt to those you don't. Thank god you are not a judge in these situations as you'd be fired instantly.
@@Mitsunari4Gunz Hans cheated as a kid and then apologised. Magnus Garry Hikaru cheated as adults but didn't apologise. So why aren't Magnus Garry Hikaru more evil than Hans? Breaking the rules is the same thing as cheating. Good job on being a hypocrite and a defender of cheaters. I am a defender of FORMER cheaters. You are a defender of CURRENT cheaters. Hans WAS a cheater because Hans apologised. Magnus Garry Hikaru ARE cheaters because they DIDN'T apologise. 9LX players are more honest than chess players.
It is common in eastern europe. You get some a sip of the beverage, and then you do something like this and you feel the taste longer with less sips so you have beverage longer or you you drink less beverage. This is what children learned. It's because of poverty.
Great to see high level London in action. Ive played this thing so many times, that i can fool myself to believe to understand what they are doing.. 80% of the time
Hikaru cheated Levon in 2016 candidates. That was OTB where there was security. Why wouldn't Hikaru cheat online where there's little to no security? That's more plausible than Hans' case: Hans cheated online and then all of a sudden Hans is expected to cheat OTB when there's so much security. Lol. --- Well to me personally someone's previous history of cheating is irrelevant as to whether or not I think they're cheating now - the only thing I care about is the tournament's level of security: If I were in the white house ( NUoCQ5A4w-A ) then I wouldn't care if, say, Ismail Haniyeh or whomever was there are as long as they were thoroughly checked. But if you really want to compare online to OTB, then be consistent.
@@santiagomorales9899 I am honestly convinced this guy is a troll. I read on one of his comments somewhere here in RUclips that Wesley So is related to Bobby Fischer. 😅😅
![Gata Kamsky Vs International COMPUTER [CHEATING TUESDAY]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jiTZxe1PV9A/mqdefault.jpg)
You won't BELIEVE For How long I was waiting for this match to happen!! Finally The two ANTI-CHEAT GOATS Face each other in CHEATING TUESDAY!!
lmfao
They're the online anti-cheating living GOATs you mean? Bobby Fischer was the anti-cheating GOAT.
why do you give your own comments a heart? you are like the 60yo uncle that's now using facebook
@@santiagomorales9899
Why does YT allow own comments to be liked & hearted?
@@nicbentulan Hey Nic! When are you going to become a Hacker?
What a nice no cheating game😌
Kramnik& Kamsky: everybody is cheating!
Hikaru cheated Levon in 2016 candidates. That was OTB where there was security. Why wouldn't Hikaru cheat online where there's little to no security?
That's more plausible than Hans' case: Hans cheated online and then all of a sudden Hans is expected to cheat OTB when there's so much security. Lol.
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Well to me personally someone's previous history of cheating is irrelevant as to whether or not I think they're cheating now - the only thing I care about is the tournament's level of security: If I were in the white house ( NUoCQ5A4w-A ) then I wouldn't care if, say, Ismail Haniyeh or whomever was there are as long as they were thoroughly checked.
But if you really want to compare online to OTB, then be consistent.
@@nicbentulan Holy shit you are really stretching for that one. There are distinct differences between cheating and making an error. This happens in literally every sport, fouls, errors, whatever you want to call it. Hikaru accidentally touched his King which was correctly called out and a judge was called and it was corrected. I do judging for another game called Magic the Gathering where these things happen all the time and are easily resolved. It's when these things are done consistently and intent can be confirmed that it becomes an issue of cheating but misplays happen all the time. Don't grasp at straws just because you like one person over the other and want to make a case of cheating.
@@Mitsunari4Gunz
1
What's your opinion of when Garry cheated judit in 1994 Linares?
2
If it's not cheating then why did Levon call the arbiter?
Cheating is the same thing as breaking the rules.
We don't have fouls or yellow cards in chess or in 9LX. Cheating is cheating.
3
What's your opinion of when Magnus cheated Alireza in the 2019 blitz WCC?
4
And when Magnus cheated Anish in 2023 superbet blitz?
5
And when Garry cheated Alexei Shirov in 2000 PCA classical WCC?
6
How come chess players like Magnus, Garry, Hikaru, Liren, Daniil & Veselin are more evil than 9LX players like Wesley, Bobby , Hans , Nepo, Sergey & Vlad?
Evil here is:
- cheating
- baselessly accusing
- discriminating
- betraying
- or supporting those who do
7
How come the top 2 classical WCCs Magnus & Garry are cheaters, baseless accusers & traitors but the top 2 classical WFRCCs Wesley & Bobby never cheated, baselessly accused or betrayed?
8
Why do chess tournaments have cheating scandals while 9LX tournaments don't?
9
Why is it that Magnus Garry Hikaru have cheated in chess as adults while Wesley Bobby Hans never cheated in chess as adults?
10
What's your opinion of when Garry cheated Vishy in 1995 PCA classical WCC?
11
What's your opinion of when Magnus cheated Danya TWICE on lichess by getting help?
12
What's your opinion of when Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk in 2009 blitz WCC?
13
Have Wesley Bobby Hans Nepo Sergey Vlad ever cheated in chess as adults like even distracting opponents, touch move etc except possibly for
A - the Wesley So writing notes thing
B - When Bobby wrote down a move before making it Vs Mikhail Tal because at the time it was allowed
?
Note: There's 'engine cheating' and then there's 'bullying cheating'.
@@nicbentulan Okay first things first, I'm not going into all your points because the reply here is about Hikaru and not all these other players you listed though I'm sure with some research I could debunk a number of those but I don't care much to do so. What I do care about is your definition of cheating as it is in chess and how you defend Hans who has been a PROVEN cheater yet when someone misplays you think it's the worse thing in the world. You change the argument to suit your needs, Hans cheated on multiple different occasions but because he was under 18 it's okay in your books. Hikaru made a human error which was corrected by a judge and no advantage was gained. This is nowhere close to using a cheating engine to literally tell you the best moves to make, you can't seriously put these on the same level and if you do then there is literally nothing I can say to you because you are that stubborn on your position. You call these guys bullies, but I can point out in many competitive sports that this is just how things are. For example in Basketball, a star player might over sell a play to get a foul call and because they are a star they get the call. Is this cheating? No it's playing the game and using every advantage to win. It's up to the refs, judges, arbiters or whoever in whatever sport that is to call these situations and punish them accordingly, be it a foul, yellow card or merely correcting the situation. You make every excuse you can for people you like or feel are ethical and offer no benefit of the doubt to those you don't. Thank god you are not a judge in these situations as you'd be fired instantly.
@@Mitsunari4Gunz
Hans cheated as a kid and then apologised. Magnus Garry Hikaru cheated as adults but didn't apologise. So why aren't Magnus Garry Hikaru more evil than Hans?
Breaking the rules is the same thing as cheating.
Good job on being a hypocrite and a defender of cheaters.
I am a defender of FORMER cheaters. You are a defender of CURRENT cheaters.
Hans WAS a cheater because Hans apologised. Magnus Garry Hikaru ARE cheaters because they DIDN'T apologise.
9LX players are more honest than chess players.
Sloshing water around in your mouth is too savage for me. Barnyard chess.
The only match with no engines involved; only memes. 😂
The battle of the giants: the block-and-report vaping GOAT vs. the anti-cheat mouthwashing boss 😂😂😂
WELL said hahaha
I wonder if they both reported each other
You bet! It's like wondering whether Cristiano Ronaldo will score a penalty! 😂
@@ChessKingsTV777big brain comparation in things
Yeah it’s called the “double procedure”
After this game did Kramnik do his procedure of blocking the opponent and then analyzing his moves?
Y E S
Kamsky should make a guide: How to play boring chess.
I just watched the first episode
Yeah so boring that he won 4-5 US championships playing this way.
@@billagap3213 but is uncapable of winning just one titled Tuesday 🤣🤣
Legend of losing
I dont think anyone cheated in this game
It's so gross the way he drinks his water or whatever it is..
Its obviously mouth wash
@@Herschel3991do you swallow mouthwash?
Tea
It is common in eastern europe. You get some a sip of the beverage, and then you do something like this and you feel the taste longer with less sips so you have beverage longer or you you drink less beverage. This is what children learned. It's because of poverty.
@@ElComendante1928 THAT'S CRAZY! I hope this is not true!
Great to see high level London in action. Ive played this thing so many times, that i can fool myself to believe to understand what they are doing.. 80% of the time
Stop the game. It’s too exciting!!!
the beads are flying in this duel of the fates xD
😂😂😂
I remember the times I played vs "Grandmaster chess" and "Chessmaster". This video reminded me. Must be the board appearance
You Slurping the drink there was enough.
That's an expensive laptop.
the "what" at 0:46 is so funny
Cause boring kamsky wanted qb6 and trade to endgame. Kramik said screw that
anti cheating agent vs anti cheating boss
Honestly until today I thought these two were one in the same 😂- I'm only kidding, excellent game! 😎👍💯
Did they both follow the procedure?
Just food for Jospem 😂
Why is Kamsky rinsing his mouth with tea?
Great game FFL
So was this interesting or not interesting enough?
No cheating = no interesting.
Basic Kramnik mathematics.
I play my system no scope for cheating
Great game.
Hikaru cheated Levon in 2016 candidates. That was OTB where there was security. Why wouldn't Hikaru cheat online where there's little to no security?
That's more plausible than Hans' case: Hans cheated online and then all of a sudden Hans is expected to cheat OTB when there's so much security. Lol.
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Well to me personally someone's previous history of cheating is irrelevant as to whether or not I think they're cheating now - the only thing I care about is the tournament's level of security: If I were in the white house ( NUoCQ5A4w-A ) then I wouldn't care if, say, Ismail Haniyeh or whomever was there are as long as they were thoroughly checked.
But if you really want to compare online to OTB, then be consistent.
hello, crazy person! long time no see
@@santiagomorales9899
Why are you here in a Hans channel yet you hate Hans?
@@santiagomorales9899 I am honestly convinced this guy is a troll. I read on one of his comments somewhere here in RUclips that Wesley So is related to Bobby Fischer. 😅😅
Kramnik going for a Leko! tell me something new! lol geeezzz
The way you drink that water is just disgusting...show some respect for the spectators please1
ok, let's do the procedure
Btw Gata plays LoL and also thinks that people cheat there
Does he stream it?
I would pay to see him getting cheated in LOL! 😂😂
Do you have proof he plays league?
Oh I gotta watch this one later, gotta be funny
Ohhhh no cheating allegations were made 😭😭
Interesting...
Lmao i like that this channel is like a kramnik clipper channel 😹 funny
Kramnik needs to have my games examined; I'm not sure I have cheated before!
Did you have a 90% accuracy game? If YES then don't worry Kramnik probably examined you already!
Kamski got old
At least his cheating "accusations" are getting old.
I wonder if his laptop is stolen or he's cheating on viewers
Hilarious 😂😂😂
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LOL! You're going full Gata Kamsky mode on me! 😂😂
I sure hope Kramnik accuses me of cheating which would be really cool because I don't even play chess. But at this rate I'm sure it's going to happen
If you play 50 points above your rating, you're gonna get REPORTED! no question about that!
The only match with no engines involved; only memes. 😂