90's G&L Comanche Guitar Prototype

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @martydibergi5228
    @martydibergi5228 Год назад +10

    Good afternoon everyone. Just got home with my guitar. It is absolutely 100% a Prototype guitar. The first one was made for my friend John Jorgenson who requested and helped design these newly designed pickups and custom switching with Leo. John and a few others were the test pilots for Leo. John does not tour with his prototype anymore (rarely did). I also have its mate without all the micro switches in mint condition in a burst finish. Will Ray (also a Hellecaster friend) also has one of these again without the micro switches. Only after Leo died did an employee find the lost pickup design when going through Leo's paperwork. G&L then decided to manufacture these as part of their line-up. FYI the 3-bolt G&L Legacy guitars have different pickups than the new ones. In 2 and 4 to my ears they are unbelievable in their quack sound. I own two of these. Hope this clarifies a little G&L history. Happy Picking.

    • @DD-lc9jv
      @DD-lc9jv 7 месяцев назад

      What a story behind those early G&L prototypes huh? My understanding is that Leo wasnt a big fan of the prototypes ended up out floating around but the way I heard it the guys over at G&L told John to keep that one they had made and if I am not mistaken is currently owned by a Mr. Brad Paisley.

  • @Jeffy2n
    @Jeffy2n Год назад +48

    Hi Dave, I worked for G&L in the early 80's, and yes, every time Leo put his name on the guitar, CBS sued him. In the late 1980's, the California Supreme court ruled that Leo could put his name on G&L guitars as long as he used his full name, did not reverse the "F" and he was still working for the company.
    So G&L did put his name on their guitars until his death in 1991.

    • @roytofilovski9530
      @roytofilovski9530 Год назад +3

      Not a fan of every one of his ideas, but the man is historically the most important person in electric guitar manufacturing.

    • @zankyalbo2208
      @zankyalbo2208 Год назад

      @urproblem "It's all in the reflexes"

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash Год назад +1

      Thank you for your service. 🖖LOL! I'm sure you met him; I would love to talk to you about the early G&L days. I have so many questions.

  • @brocklanders6172
    @brocklanders6172 Год назад +27

    It has the ability to split the coils. Each split-coil pup is wired like a P-Bass pup; they're two separate pups wired to hum cancel. This means you can, let's say, have the bass side of the neck pup on the neck pup, and have the treble side on the bridge pup. That's why you have a three-way set of secondary mini-toggles; up is bass side, middle is both, and down is treble side. Almost endless pup settings. I know this because, back in the '80's, I knew a guitarist that modified a '60's Fender XII to have that exact same mod done. Obviously, the Fender XII had two sets of almost the same pups.

    • @roytofilovski9530
      @roytofilovski9530 Год назад

      Looks like the guitar has six pickups, in pairs of two wired to cancel the hum. In the middle position you basically have a noiseless single coil.

    • @roytofilovski9530
      @roytofilovski9530 Год назад

      But other than with the middle position you don't get hum cancelling I think.

    • @brocklanders6172
      @brocklanders6172 Год назад

      @@roytofilovski9530 No, you get hum cancellation in every pup selection.

    • @brocklanders6172
      @brocklanders6172 Год назад

      @@roytofilovski9530 Wrong. Yes, you, effectively, have six pups, but you get hum cancellation unless you choose only bass side or treble side. Why would you choose that?

    • @brianjones7521
      @brianjones7521 Год назад +1

      @@roytofilovski9530 Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

  • @mikedonnellan4937
    @mikedonnellan4937 Год назад +9

    Absolutely loved the Comanche 6 I used to have, probably the best electric I ever owned. At my skill level it was too much guitar sadly. G&L is my favorite maker, the Dual Fulcrum is imo the all-round best whammy ever made.

  • @yobentley7274
    @yobentley7274 Год назад +5

    That has to be a rare guitar. Lucky to see it.

  • @bloatedtreeful
    @bloatedtreeful Год назад +6

    The tone control does work. It just sounds like it has a very small cap.

  • @ishgumi44
    @ishgumi44 Год назад +3

    I own a USA Legacy and a USA ASAT classic. Two of the best guitars in my collection. Quality instruments. Love the MFD pickups.

  • @alinchitown7556
    @alinchitown7556 Год назад +8

    They currently make it as the Tribute Comanche and it retails for $699, seems like a nice deal. It doesn’t have all the wacky switches now just knobs and a 5 way switch.

    • @timnewton23
      @timnewton23 Год назад +1

      I think I would personally prefer having it with the PTB system than all the switches. Too complicated for me. I like simplicity in a guitar.

  • @danriley5848
    @danriley5848 Год назад +6

    Very cool guitar and another job well done as always Dave. 👌🏼✌🏻

  • @hrabb2810
    @hrabb2810 Год назад +3

    A Dave double bill! Thanks.

  • @Mike-Olds-1
    @Mike-Olds-1 Год назад +2

    That is cool guitar 🎸 Thanks Mr. Dave

  • @blkjckgtr3075
    @blkjckgtr3075 Год назад +3

    Beauty strat Dave always wanted one,did you notice no grond wire on theCRAW!! maybe that's why Leo used copper spring for grounding,hope your doing better,Cheers!

  • @-suphur
    @-suphur Год назад +3

    I think that they called these a "Studio VI" at the time. That example is in really good shape.
    I had a Comanche at one time, nice guitar and those pickups are dead silent as they are setup like a humbucker.
    Mine was pretty heavy though, its only drawback, imo.
    I just sold an ASAT Special from that era with the crinkle pickguard and appointments. That was a nice guitar too.

  • @wrenchhead6840
    @wrenchhead6840 Год назад +3

    I own a 2014 G&L ASAT Z-3 and i love it. Same config as the comanche but in a tele frame…

    • @martydibergi5228
      @martydibergi5228 Год назад

      Similar to my friend Will Ray’s signature guity

  • @ejwms
    @ejwms Год назад

    right on, Dave

  • @williamross2579
    @williamross2579 Год назад +1

    Loving the P-Bass style pickups on a guitar

  • @floydlay9189
    @floydlay9189 Год назад +5

    Great job,,,i'm a bass player and played in bands for too long,,,but enjoy Dave when you bend the shit out of that tremelo,,every guitarist I'd played with was terrified of doing that,,because it was certain to return ,,in some sort of tuning from another Galaxy!

    • @eddiejr540
      @eddiejr540 Год назад +1

      That’s exactly right!!!!

  • @Riverdeepnwide
    @Riverdeepnwide Год назад +1

    I made the mistake of buying a G&L way back when. Loved it so much I soon bought two others. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Still got ‘em.

  • @michaelpond6386
    @michaelpond6386 Год назад +3

    Haha I remember “The Claw” 😂

  • @mattrogers1946
    @mattrogers1946 Год назад +1

    It has 6 mini-toggles: a triplet of 2-position switches to turn the separate pups on/off, and a trio of 3-position switches to turn on either of the half-coils or both for a total of 63 useful combinations.

  • @churchbryan35
    @churchbryan35 Год назад +1

    I had a G&L Legacy I bought used around 99'...in the back of the neck somewhere around the 2-3 fret location there was a dowel I'd say 3/16's in diameter...wasn't a repair wasn't a 2nd.....I was told it was Leo's little signature thing...with it being whatever....have you ever heard anything like this?

  • @jamesreyes4654
    @jamesreyes4654 Год назад

    Had a very senior moment with that file huh Dave 😂

  • @LucyZamb-z5b
    @LucyZamb-z5b Год назад

    They scalp 'em good guitar back in the old elder days

  • @brianlebrun2382
    @brianlebrun2382 Год назад

    The Comanche is the top of the line for G&L. I have the Indonesian made tribute and just got in the US model in today. They absolutely blow away my Strat for output and tone.

  • @yobentley7274
    @yobentley7274 Год назад +1

    Some cool ideas there Leo !!

  • @garybrady9531
    @garybrady9531 Год назад +1

    Metal pick guards ends them from cracking and shrinking good deal

  • @chuckquinn8026
    @chuckquinn8026 Год назад

    Winner winner, chicken dinner 👍👍 November 19 is my birthday 👍👍 I’ll gladly take it, thank you very much 😂
    Gorgeous guitar there Dave ❤️

  • @stevenedwards4470
    @stevenedwards4470 Год назад +1

    Very interesting. A little busy. I always liked the idea of 3 mini toggles on a 3 pickup guitar. 😝 It would be fantastic if there's a specific reason for the copper spring in Leo's mind.

  • @samlelowitch
    @samlelowitch Год назад +2

    I love G&L guitars. So nice.

  • @jan-a26
    @jan-a26 Год назад +1

    There was a fretless l2000 listed on reverb. Trans red with golden Leo signature. I should have bought it three years ago

  • @michaelmonstre
    @michaelmonstre Год назад

    I want one! looks so cool. I'm a sucker for mini switches.

  • @jamespell8091
    @jamespell8091 Год назад

    I like the Tele Tray

  • @wademiyataki9221
    @wademiyataki9221 Год назад +3

    Maybe it’s a “producer” knob, see Leland Sklar for reference…😁

    • @roytofilovski9530
      @roytofilovski9530 Год назад

      Maybe. Turn the knob and suddenly your playing just sounds better......

  • @BasicDrumming
    @BasicDrumming Год назад

    Great video.

  • @eddiejr540
    @eddiejr540 Год назад +1

    4/64ths is almost a 1/16th of an inch….. almost, but not quite 🤪

  • @davidkastin4240
    @davidkastin4240 Год назад

    Awesome Strat ❤ 🎸

  • @daleturner3507
    @daleturner3507 Год назад +2

    They do still make them. But the newer ones have a 5 way switch and 2 tone controls like a Strat.

    • @chrismuir7093
      @chrismuir7093 Год назад +1

      Two tone controls, but not like a Strat. It uses G&L's PTB setup, with a normal treble cut, and a bass cut.

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад

      Yup!

  • @jonreynolds1655
    @jonreynolds1655 Год назад

    Hi Dave you Canadian Legend !! Omg saw that when you had the neck off there was a pen inscription of £171 maybe...did that neck come from ENGLAND possibly ... ?? Tks Dave for all the totally ORSM content..🙂

    • @martydibergi5228
      @martydibergi5228 2 месяца назад

      guitar was 100% made in the California factory

  • @stringspicksandfiddlestick6388

    One of the guys Umphrey’s McGee plays that model.

  • @yobentley7274
    @yobentley7274 Год назад +1

    I think I have the Fret Guru version of that file. It works great for me. Cost a bit, but great.

  • @fredericthom8113
    @fredericthom8113 Год назад

    hooo my god ... i want one for soooooooo long !!!!

    • @martydibergi5228
      @martydibergi5228 2 месяца назад

      might sell it, my health has changed. interested?

    • @fredericthom8113
      @fredericthom8113 Месяц назад

      @@martydibergi5228 bad to read you health has changed , i hope isn t too bad ...
      I live in Japan and now isn t good timing for me !
      But, very thank you for asking if I'm interested !!!

  • @ofershragay
    @ofershragay Год назад

    I think that I saw that in the older website. It was a namm piece as far as I remember

  • @GRBAquatics
    @GRBAquatics Год назад

    Very Cool, Thankyou. Amazing Guitar. Nice Work. Cheers

  • @fractaljack210
    @fractaljack210 Год назад +1

    Really neat guitar. Nice job.

  • @thepaganaut
    @thepaganaut Год назад

    Is the tone knob actually controlling the bass? Some of the G&L guitars have Bass and Treble knobs, rather than a single "tone" knob.

  • @FoulOwl2112
    @FoulOwl2112 Год назад

    Ughh! For some reason, whenever I'm filing fret ends in person, it doesn't bother me in the least.
    But when you do it on video, something about that sound makes my skin crawl! It's like Quint's fingernails on the chalkboard in Jaws...

  • @martydibergi5228
    @martydibergi5228 2 месяца назад

    thinking of selling this. my health has changed rapidly

  • @patmayer7222
    @patmayer7222 Год назад

    ,,,the tone worked,,,,very subtle,,,though...!.....great guitar,,,,expensive???......cool.....tnx,,,,,,,,,,,,land o' lakes,wi.

    • @martydibergi5228
      @martydibergi5228 2 месяца назад

      my health has changed, thinking of selling it gave some guitars to my grandkids- Fair offers only thanks

  • @DronePsyche
    @DronePsyche Год назад

    Can I send you my 1982 Rickenbacker 4003 to fix the next and put back the rick-o-sound wiring back to original?

  • @SgtSteel1
    @SgtSteel1 Год назад

    So the other set of switches (not the pick up selectors) are sort of a in-phase, out-of-phase switch? Oh and did you work out what did other knob did in the end?

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад

      It has 6 mini-toggles: a triplet of 2-position switches to turn the separate pups on/off, and a trio of 3-position switches to turn on either of the half-coils or both for a total of 63 useful combinations.

  • @TheMoodyLoners
    @TheMoodyLoners Год назад +2

    Interesting relic. That switching scheme never made it into any production Commanches - they use a typical 5-way Strat type switch. Either that was a one-off made just before Leo passed on, or it got modded later on - complete with a custom made pickguard.

    • @DavesWorldofFunStuff
      @DavesWorldofFunStuff  Год назад +3

      prototype

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash Год назад +4

      @@DavesWorldofFunStuff Mystery switches explained: They are coil splitting switches. Up position is the three bass strings only, middle is both coils (all six strings), down is the three high strings. One switch for each pickup. When the switch is in the middle it's hum cancelling. The top three switches are for pickup selection.

    • @TheMoodyLoners
      @TheMoodyLoners Год назад

      @@DavesWorldofFunStuff very collectible!

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад +2

      It wasn't a one-off. These went into production.

    • @KozmykJ
      @KozmykJ Год назад +1

      @@mattrogers1946 Yup.
      A few appear on Reverb now and then.
      G&L Comanche Studio VI

  • @zjokka
    @zjokka Год назад

    Leo Fender died March 21st 1991, 3 months before the neck was date stamped...

  • @roytofilovski9530
    @roytofilovski9530 Год назад

    I guess the three way switches are a form of blending system. As Dave said, each pickup, when activated, has three balls settings.......
    It's an alternative to the tone control. For a bassier sound you give the neck pickup full balls.....

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash Год назад +1

      Mystery switches explained: They are coil splitting switches. Up position is the three bass strings only, middle is both coils (all six strings), down is the three high strings. One switch for each pickup. When the switch is in the middle it's hum cancelling. The top three switches are for pickup selection.

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад

      It has 6 mini-toggles: a triplet of 2-position switches to turn the separate pups on/off, and a trio of 3-position switches to turn on either of the half-coils or both for a total of 63 useful combinations.

  • @sira.scottascot8865
    @sira.scottascot8865 Год назад

    Like lil' P bass pickups on a geeetar.

  • @mattrogers1946
    @mattrogers1946 Год назад

    This is pretty sweet. I played a couple of these when they came out. Wish I would had been smart enough to buy it.

  • @vayabroder729
    @vayabroder729 Год назад +1

    Sweet guitar; I had a 1990 Leo Fender Signature ASAT and it also had the metal enameled pickguard. Should be from around the same era.

    • @Jeffy2n
      @Jeffy2n Год назад +2

      Little side note, the ASAT is a great guitar and had allot of Leos better ideas in it.
      At the Plant we called it the "Advance Standard American Telecaster" tho, we could not say that outside the plant.........;)

    • @vayabroder729
      @vayabroder729 Год назад +1

      @@Jeffy2n I later got an ASAT Classic as well with gun oil tinted maple neck in butterscotch finish and black pickguard.

  • @barryismygod
    @barryismygod Год назад

    It seems it has a similar setup to Brian May’s Red special with the switching system

  • @artrogers3985
    @artrogers3985 Год назад +1

    Leo was a genius. I am indebted to you for turning me on to G&L. To think, I almost bought a Rickenbacker. Oy vey!

  • @LilYeshua
    @LilYeshua Год назад

    Are you going to do the last video on the Yamaha Pacifica?

  • @Vern859
    @Vern859 Год назад +2

    MFD Z coils... Leo invention.
    Those 3 switchs in front control the 3 pole pieces forward.
    The other 3 switchs control the 3 pole pieces toward the bridge.
    I believe the tone knob only works when all 3 pickups are full on. So if u flip the front switch on and the front switch on the back set you will have front pickup only.
    1 switch controls 3 pole pieces in the same order as the pickups...
    👍

    • @SgtSteel1
      @SgtSteel1 Год назад +1

      I really had no idea what was going on, so thanks for this :) I think I get it, but if you only have a switch for pole pieces forward, what happens to the treble side?

    • @Vern859
      @Vern859 Год назад +1

      @Sgt Steel
      They are the other 3 switchs
      3 switchs for treble
      3 switchs for bass
      If you switch all 3 switchs full on then you have all 3 pickups on full.
      You can mix and match with this setup...

    • @SgtSteel1
      @SgtSteel1 Год назад +1

      @@Vern859 Yes, but what happens if you have all 3 treble switches set to off for e.g? Or can they not be turned fully off? It sounded like they could.

    • @Vern859
      @Vern859 Год назад

      @Sgt Steel
      Yep you can turn them off.👍

    • @SgtSteel1
      @SgtSteel1 Год назад +1

      @@Vern859 I don't get why anyone would do that? Why would you not want the treble side to work???

  • @timmee6937
    @timmee6937 Год назад

    I Googled Super Lube. Which one is it???

    • @stanallen1072
      @stanallen1072 8 месяцев назад

      It's the nut sauce one. The groove luber.

  • @Relayer6a
    @Relayer6a Год назад +1

    It's funny how reverent Dave is about Leo. This seems like a very well made guitar. But to say "no plastic for Leo" isn't very accurate. Leo used lots of plastic covers and pickguards, etc...

  • @audiomonster303
    @audiomonster303 Год назад

    I heard the tone knob working, better check your ears lol

  • @BungaEBiker
    @BungaEBiker Год назад +1

    OOoooo

  • @roytofilovski9530
    @roytofilovski9530 Год назад

    The sharp fret ends must have been there for decades. There is no way they appeared recently given the age of the guitar.

    • @nocturnal101ravenous6
      @nocturnal101ravenous6 Год назад

      It probably sat in a case for a decade or more, but it would depend on the Guitars travels in regards to humid or dry environment as well.

    • @roytofilovski9530
      @roytofilovski9530 Год назад

      @@nocturnal101ravenous6 Houses in Canada get quite dry in winter unless you have a humidifier attached to your furnace. Necks need some humidity.

  • @richardfehr1838
    @richardfehr1838 Год назад

    Hey, Dave, In Canada that model should be called the "First Nations."

  • @johnwhitaker545
    @johnwhitaker545 Год назад

    It looks like it has some nice contours to it

  • @audiomonster303
    @audiomonster303 Год назад

    Good lord Leo sold his name and his soul to CBS!!!! Money is so filthy and controlling.

    • @DavesWorldofFunStuff
      @DavesWorldofFunStuff  Год назад +1

      history tells us he was ill at the time and was unsure if he would recover.reason 1

  • @robjones7725
    @robjones7725 Год назад

    It seems to me that G&L make some decent guitars but still with Leo's credibility and you can be be a bit different from the F Strat crowd!

  • @bristolfashion4421
    @bristolfashion4421 Год назад

    bloke seem to no wot he doing, innit... I too got a hairbrush for my fyles, innit... now I'm off for a curry and a couple of pints of Karlsberg Peculiar Brew, innit... nice guitar.

  • @dennisrohm6372
    @dennisrohm6372 Год назад

    Powder coating

  • @howardmaryon
    @howardmaryon Год назад

    When you think about it, Mr Fender had to leave Fender guitars and form a new company because it must have been totally frustrating for him to come upbwith genuine improvements to his own designs for them to be shot down by corporate execs as being “too expensive”. And yet we see here a glimpse of what Fender guitars could have been like if he had still owned the company. I know what my next guitar purchase is going to be, and it wont be a Fender......

  • @nocturnal101ravenous6
    @nocturnal101ravenous6 Год назад

    I can take a guess Dave, so they are a Coil tap switch, Balls position is full wind, and its probably set up in thirds for the other positions, man that would be a pain in the ass to wire up. Also Personally I prefer mini switches instead of a 5 way switch or those push buttons like SRV's Strat Elite/Ultra model from the 80's, I tend to use 5 3 way mini switches and I use them in several configs like 1- Off, 2- Phase 1, 3- Reverse Phase, as an example, you can also do things like 500k Humbucker 250k Single coil with the Fender stacked humbuckers either way it turns into spaghetti wiring adding all the extra stuff.

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash Год назад

      No, it's to split the coils. Up position is the three bass strings only, middle is both coils (all six strings), down is the three high strings. One switch for each pickup. When the switch is in the middle it's hum cancelling. The top three switches are for pickup selection.

    • @nocturnal101ravenous6
      @nocturnal101ravenous6 Год назад

      @@tiki_trash Yeah its a stacked humbucker which means its not worth coil splitting and he would gety noise when splitting the coil.................................... which clearly he did not. Its a Coil Tap.

    • @nocturnal101ravenous6
      @nocturnal101ravenous6 Год назад

      @@tiki_trash if it was only the 3 bass strings the tonality would have been very apparent, which it was not. It didn't change the tone perse just the output indicative of coil tapping not coil splitting.

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash Год назад

      @@nocturnal101ravenous6 Why are you arguing with me? You don't know what you're talking about. I already explained to you how the switching system works.

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash Год назад

      Hmmm... For some reason RUclips won't allow me to post a link to the guitarsbyleo forum showing you registered examples of this model. It's called The Comanche VI and it was only produced for a very short time. The Comanche V is the model most people know as The Comanche. THIS IS NOT A PROTOTYPE GUITAR. It is a very rare production model. They were sold with various body styles and headstocks. I'm old enough to remember when they came out and although I have never played one, I read about them in a guitar magazine of the time. The switches work exactly as I described. Dave hasn't a clue what this guitar is and if he would have spent some time, or looked at the wiring I'm sure he would have figured it out. Each pickup has 2 coils one for the 3 bass strings and one for the 3 treble strings, the same concept as the Precision Bass. They are reverse wound. They are not stacked humbucking coils. The tone control obviously did not work. I'm a huge Leo Fender nut and I mourned the day he died. I wish he was still here to give us guitar models built from the ground up beginning with a unique pickup for each guitar. Sometimes he came up with really bad ideas like the Jaguar, but I forgive him. Hopefully YT will let me post this one, I've already tried twice 🙄

  • @MarkTurner-vs7uc
    @MarkTurner-vs7uc Год назад +1

    Strange.

  • @ricofama1785
    @ricofama1785 Год назад

    That is one ugly guitar.....

  • @motofish312
    @motofish312 Год назад

    IT'S CALLED A STUDIO 6. AND YES IT GOES SERIES, PARALLEL AND PHASE SHIFT. NOT A PROTOTYPE. A LEO PROTOTYPE WOULDN'T LOOK THAT GOOD. WHEN G&L WAS STARTED, HIS NON COMPETITION AGREEMENT HAD EXPIRED.

    • @DavesWorldofFunStuff
      @DavesWorldofFunStuff  Год назад

      as per the owner someone is incorrect

    • @martydibergi5228
      @martydibergi5228 Год назад

      Wrong my friend. Spoke with John Jorgenson 2 weeks ago. He has the Very first Comanche that he and Leo designed in great condition. This guitar is a Prototype and is a case queen. I have another with the regular switches not a mark on it and Will Ray got one about 25 years ago also still in perfect condition. There ya go. I also have 2 rare JJ signature silver sparkle ASAT’s in new condition. Happy pickin’.