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  • Опубликовано: 27 фев 2024
  • Coming from the US, I was used to "High Highs" but also "Low Lows"...but Dutch life is really about "The Simple Life." I used to want to move to a forest to get away from the hustle and bustle...but "simplicity" is actually built into the Dutch culture (IF you come from a fast-paced society like the US).
    And as a result...life has slowed down immensely for me here. I hope you enjoy it =)
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  • @hidavidwen
    @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +194

    I hope ya’ll can take a joke 😁 But…what do you think about the “simple” Dutch way of living? (I’ve learned to appreciate it)
    And is…”Niksen” a thing? I like it =) Check out this BBC "Niksen" article - www.bbc.com/travel/article/20230522-the-dutch-solution-to-busyness-that-captivated-the-world

    • @ShinAlive
      @ShinAlive 2 месяца назад +30

      "Niksen" is something I did a lot as a teenager. But nowadays I call it "Rusten" as an adult so I don't sound like I'm a slob. What did I do yesterday? Ah yes, yesterday I had a good rest and I feel energized now! See, that sounds very mature and productive...

    • @EGO0808
      @EGO0808 2 месяца назад +6

      Having left my homecountry for quite a few years now, I almost forgot about ‘niksen’.😊 It works for a little while in some cases. Just take some time off at any moment and don’t do anything, just ‘niks’. As for simple life, it’s all about perspective and your horizon. If the goal at the horizon is to have a simple life along the way, then so be it. If the goal is to achieve wealth, power, or maintaining a longterm family history and be able to give it to the next generation, then the road is different. As I told you before, me living in SE Asia, I see family values here are far more important. Especially in the Chinese culture I see the need to provide for a good life for the next generation, which drives material wealth and growth as a basis for a prosperous and happy life. There’s very good things about Dutch culture, there’s some that I consider not so good or even toxic as well. Perspective is what counts imho.

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 2 месяца назад +4

      Well done, but I don't see the joke, sorry. It is spot on. But your bike, is not very practical for doing groceries.

    • @ay.maripoxa
      @ay.maripoxa 2 месяца назад +7

      In Mexico it's called Huevoniada 😂

    • @arturobianco848
      @arturobianco848 2 месяца назад +4

      Most of us have a sence of humor so no worrys.

  • @stan9682
    @stan9682 2 месяца назад +645

    As someone from the south of the NL, it's crazy to me that you refer to living in Amsterdam as a "quiet and simple" life. I suppose as opposed to US cities, A'dam can feel tranquil, but when you compare it to other cities, even the other bigger cities, Amsterdam feels very fast-paced and crowded.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +110

      Haha I know what you mean…I moved from California to Maastricht…and that was realllly slow. Amsterdam is faster but still a lot slower than life in big city USA
      Thanks for sharing

    • @ceesvanderschoot9799
      @ceesvanderschoot9799 2 месяца назад +28

      Lol I,m from up North and even Brabant sound way to crowded for me 😂🤣👍 I love to see cows and sheep’s everywhere 😂👍

    • @YoyoyWhajx
      @YoyoyWhajx 2 месяца назад +1

      @@hidavidwenhey Hida. You should visit gouda. Its a small but nice city. An our away from Amsterdam(or less)

    • @DonHrvato
      @DonHrvato 2 месяца назад +12

      @@hidavidwen funny when I moved to the NL 20 years ago Amsterdam was nice for party, but no way I wanted to live there i want 'space', green, flower, birds, trees around me, but a city not far away so I'm just in between not a typical huge city fan but the far farm land in the rural area is not a thing for me, so I prefer a Dutch 'dorp' near a city with a mix of both

    • @mejuffrouwvandalen
      @mejuffrouwvandalen 2 месяца назад

      My thoughts exactly as I live in the east 🫢😁☺️

  • @erikbouma9408
    @erikbouma9408 2 месяца назад +99

    Dutch rule for paracetamol: “1 is placebo, always take two.”

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +3

      Haha never heard of that rule but good to know, thanks!

    • @sea.imagineering
      @sea.imagineering Месяц назад

      @@hidavidwenyes always take 2! Its true. 😄

    • @moonshine2308
      @moonshine2308 Месяц назад

      2 in the morning, 2 in the evening and when its really bad 2 during lunch time..​@@hidavidwen

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516
    @kasimirdenhertog3516 2 месяца назад +349

    I love how the Albert Heijn shopper is the most Dutch thing in the video without being mentioned

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +13

      Hahahaha thanks for pointing it out! 😂😂

    • @felixyasnopolski8571
      @felixyasnopolski8571 2 месяца назад +2

      It isn't a shopper... Just bag, because you not gonna buy a new one

    • @rijksvoorlichtingsdienst4427
      @rijksvoorlichtingsdienst4427 2 месяца назад +9

      ​@@felixyasnopolski8571 het is letterlijk een shopper van de ah maar goed jij hebt gelijk hoor

    • @Jp.301
      @Jp.301 2 месяца назад +2

      Food of Albert Heijn is unhealthy!

    • @Lily4444
      @Lily4444 2 месяца назад +3

      And you find this bag on all beaches in Europe😂

  • @lucyfrye6723
    @lucyfrye6723 2 месяца назад +446

    It is all true. I had a skull fracture once, falling down the stairs, After the ambulance slowly drove me to the hospital they looked at me very worried. And sent me home with TWO paracetamols.

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 2 месяца назад +52

      There is no recipe for Rest, Sleep, Time, and Take it easy.
      Let nature do its job...

    • @annebokma4637
      @annebokma4637 2 месяца назад +40

      You are still alive? Guess it worked 😂

    • @captainchaos3667
      @captainchaos3667 2 месяца назад +56

      Two?! What overkill...

    • @mradventurer8104
      @mradventurer8104 2 месяца назад +16

      That's probably because the main treatment for that was rest? Then why give you addictive pain killers if you need mainly rest? It's still a funny story though :)

    • @annebokma4637
      @annebokma4637 2 месяца назад +16

      @@mradventurer8104 they are not just pain killers, they are inflammatory as well.. and not addictive at all.
      Also in some cases any "medication" helps aka the placebo effect

  • @donbrabo
    @donbrabo 2 месяца назад +202

    Your video put a big smile on this Dutch guy's face, subtle humor with a hint of sarcasm and making me love my own culture again. I tend to forget what it's all about sometimes, thanks David!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +14

      Aw thanks for the kind words! Haha and I get it, it’s always different to hear someone else’s perspective on your culture 😄

  • @bertkassing8541
    @bertkassing8541 2 месяца назад +155

    "Niksening" dat moet toch wel het Engelse woord van het jaar worden David! :-)

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +16

      Hahaha, let's make it woord van het jaar...niksening =)

    • @user-vk5ws3jl1l
      @user-vk5ws3jl1l 2 месяца назад +11

      ​@@hidavidwen It should become a Olympic sport, something i would have a chance to win gold in xD

  • @CakeboyRiP
    @CakeboyRiP 2 месяца назад +107

    This video is like a poem

  • @LexSijtsma2
    @LexSijtsma2 2 месяца назад +62

    Love this video. Especially how you managed to make Amsterdam look like a place with not a lot of people 😂

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +3

      Hahaha didn’t think of that but haha yes, I do know some more quiet areas as I’ve lived in several places now :) thanks!

    • @Chappomusic
      @Chappomusic 25 дней назад

      You didn’t smell his overaged wet cheese, cleared the street immediately . ( it was not on the paper of the cheezboer that it shouldn’t be stored for 13 months in a wet warm bathroom)

  • @EGO0808
    @EGO0808 2 месяца назад +157

    Subtle sarcasm with unimaginary imaging, I had a big smile on my face throughout the whole video. But the message is clear, you made the right choice. Happy for you, David. 😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +3

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 😁😁

  • @sanderappel4499
    @sanderappel4499 2 месяца назад +33

    This is the kind of sarcasm, irony and subtle jabs that actually show a deep love

  • @yury2509
    @yury2509 2 месяца назад +73

    The script and the presentation are done professionally.

  • @joymusical1222
    @joymusical1222 2 месяца назад +139

    The Dutch medical experience is indeed a magic!!! One of my colleagues once had a bleeding wound on her head. Before she could see a GP, the assistant at the reception already managed to send her home and ask her to do nothing, because “the nature will heal it!!!” 😂

    • @DenUitvreter
      @DenUitvreter 2 месяца назад +11

      The diagnosis is the primary job of a doctor.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Ahh yes I’ve heard of that story before too 😄

    • @Harrypjotter7
      @Harrypjotter7 2 месяца назад +13

      And fun fact is, it did!

    • @kellychuba
      @kellychuba 2 месяца назад

      adopted nay coopted 'friend' story travels the internet during a period of anti-medicine. Why? Go home with a bleeding head, the lady said, and we all believed it....

    • @Pasunsoprano
      @Pasunsoprano 2 месяца назад +6

      Yet should you have needed to go to a hospital your health insurance would actually pay for it.

  • @moshemordechaivanzuiden
    @moshemordechaivanzuiden 2 месяца назад +53

    Your portray of Dutch life is very correct and flattery. 31 Years ago I moved to 'het buitenland' (emigrated) from Amsterdam. Thank you for bringing back fun memories. NB: Paracetamol is NOT an innocent tablet. You can even die from it, even if you were healthy. The real Dutch (me) don't take anything if it also passes without anything. They found that an ear infection heals as fast with and without antibiotics, so they don't prescribe AB for that anymore. I'm happy to hear that you found yourself and happiness; is this the slowest you ever talked in your life? One addition. When I grew up there, Dutch parents were stricter with their kids than US parents. It takes a lot of training or correction to be and stay honest, responsible, polite, humble, friendly, etc.

    • @jpdj2715
      @jpdj2715 2 месяца назад +1

      31 years ago, "buitenland" (the foreign) could be the rest of the Netherlands. Since the hippie times, strictness got completely lost. Gradually more so. Everything should be possible.
      The problem with the "NSAID" class of painkiller is that you need a gene to facilitate conversion into its non-toxic effective form. If you lack the gene, then aspirin, ibuprofen, diclofenac, (etc.) will make you feel less good, because of the initial toxicity. DNA testing made me aware of these and I do not have the gene on both chromosomes in the pair that's involved. The metabolic system involved here is called Cytochrome P450 and the genes in that system all have a code starting with CYP. Many medicines rely on a CYP gene and if you lack the gene, metabolic conversion into desired active state does not happen.
      You can be heterozygous (meaning you have the gene on one of the two chromosomes), but that does not mean the gene that you have will be available. Homo sapiens with a full set of CYP genes has one to activate THC (the hallucinogenic working molecule in Mary Jane plants). I am hallucinogenic and as I have tried both medical and recreational THC, there was no effect because the gene was not available. If you want to know how this works, ask me.
      No, medicine men (aka doctors or MD) generally know nothing about this.
      Opiates and modern synthetic opiates also cause problems in my body, but that's outside the CYP range.
      Paracetamol - not an NSAID - I hate. Yes, it can kill. The amount you need to kill you acutely with 50% chance (this dose is called "LD50") is 2,000mg per kg of body weight. Imagine you put 75 on the kilogram scale. In that case you would need 150 grams of paracetamol or 300 tablets of 500mg. And still you only have 50% chance of killing yourself (because LD50 - LD lethal dose, 50 for 50% of the population).
      The Dutch medicine men assume that a lower dose is not a problem. Well, that may only be true if you have a healthy liver, and then the unanswered question is what the LD50 would be in people with an already unhealthy liver.
      No, the paracetamol experience is not great with Dutch MD. These clever dickies operate on a scholastically defined protocol that helps them to "never make mistakes" (that is, mistakes that count in fault statistics) and consequently claim to be the best in the world.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +5

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏
      Haha I used to talk even slower…well if you can believe it..I used to be very shy and didn’t even talk much in public :)

    • @77slevins_video_channel
      @77slevins_video_channel 2 месяца назад +6

      Quote: NB: "Paracetamol is NOT an innocent tablet. You can even die from it" You can, and people have died from drinking too much water too. Everything in moderation, you won't die from taking a bit of Paracetamol, and it's so popular to recommend because it has very low chance of side effects in combination with other medication. Moderation is key.

    • @seesharp81321
      @seesharp81321 2 месяца назад

      @@77slevins_video_channel Number one poisoning cause. Not innocent at all

    • @corbeau-_-
      @corbeau-_- 2 месяца назад

      I studied to be a physical therapist. 60-70% of treatment actually does nothing: you would heal just as well without 'intervention'. We usually don't tell people about this directly, most of the clients basically need a bit of assurance... I do stimulate people to not rely on me (but it basically costs me business). Popping some pill is about the same. It's about reassurance. Like a placebo, it mostly works by reducing stress. I suppose we just don't like quacks - hence the emphasis on being honest. Even when it means less €...

  • @vaishnaviinamdar2300
    @vaishnaviinamdar2300 2 месяца назад +73

    Moving to the Netherlands in April!
    Can't wait to find a job and settle into this beautifully efficient country.

    • @janharml
      @janharml 2 месяца назад +19

      We have a saying that translated says: It is not all gold that shines. And we also say: Expect the worst and hope for the best. Then your experience will always be positive.
      Our small country is not perfect. But I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

    • @adrimathlener8008
      @adrimathlener8008 2 месяца назад +8

      Well do take the train to the northern part and visit Groningen.
      Why, well Amsterdam is so boring 🙂

    • @vaishnaviinamdar2300
      @vaishnaviinamdar2300 2 месяца назад +8

      @@janharml Absolutely. Putting these quotes on the wall next to my current favourite: Je kunt nooit een oceaan oversteken, als je niet het lef hebt om de kust uit het zicht te verliezen.
      Translation: You can never cross the ocean until you have the courage to lose sight of the shore

    • @janharml
      @janharml 2 месяца назад +8

      @@adrimathlener8008I have lived in the province of Groningen all my life. And I have to be maybe 3 times a year in Amsterdam, I'm always happy to go home.

    • @janharml
      @janharml 2 месяца назад +1

      @@vaishnaviinamdar2300Never heard that one. But I like it 👍

  • @Humstrux
    @Humstrux 2 месяца назад +29

    You just made me realise how lucky I am that I was born and raised in the Netherlands. Thank you for that!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      🙌 Glad to hear!

    • @franziskani
      @franziskani 2 месяца назад +1

      @@hidavidwen Hi David - I hope you will take your vacation time to visit Austria. there seems to be a trend that we have plenty of rain in spring and early summer and then there is a stable high. When it does not rain it is beautiful (grandiose or pleasant landscapes, the lakes, the cities like Vienna or Salzburg). And the food might be better than in the Netherlands. (The Dutch are the third most important tourist nationality I think. A lot of it likely winter tourism.

  • @LaMuus
    @LaMuus 2 месяца назад +21

    The paracetamol... 😂 so true!
    Wonderful editing, David, and love the subtle jokes and sarcasm!

  • @kristinavsworld
    @kristinavsworld 2 месяца назад +32

    Hi David! I’m also moving to Amsterdam from California for the same reasons, and also graduating from UCLA this spring. I’ve applied to Dutch masters program and can’t wait to move there. The constant pressure and hassle culture in US, health care and being nonstop in a car is just so depressing. I’m so glad I’ve found your videos, it gives me hope there’s something much better to live for than just your job and bills. 🙏🏻

    • @SuperGabber5000
      @SuperGabber5000 2 месяца назад +1

      Which university? Im also following a masters program at Erasmus. Just curious!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +4

      Hello fellow Bruin! 🐻 So nice to hear that :) I really enjoyed my Masters here and hope you will too. UCLA will definitely prepare you well (especially being surrounded by top caliber students), but Dutch education is also very high quality.
      Best of luck, do write a message if you get in and make the move! 🙌

    • @kristinavsworld
      @kristinavsworld 2 месяца назад +3

      @@hidavidwenThank you! I’ll definitely shoot you a message once I make my move presumably in July 😊

    • @kristinavsworld
      @kristinavsworld 2 месяца назад +1

      @@SuperGabber5000I applied to UvA!

    • @sys-administrator
      @sys-administrator 2 месяца назад

      Can we swap passports please? I'm moving the opposite direction :) Going to move to Los Angeles soon, I love the sunny and laidback lifestyle they have there.

  • @mikoltgyuricza9090
    @mikoltgyuricza9090 2 месяца назад +46

    I just came back from a trip in the NL, and I am in crazy love with this country. I know, it’s not for everybody, but I definitely felt home there. Planning to move now, and your videos help a lot! Thanks for your hard work with this channel!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +3

      Aw thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it! Nice to hear you've felt at home in NL...so in an ideal world....when would you like to move? =)

    • @mikoltgyuricza9090
      @mikoltgyuricza9090 2 месяца назад +5

      @@hidavidwen Hi David! In an ideal world I would move during Autumn this year- new beginning in October 🤩 not sure if I can make it, but thanks to you and your videos I am becoming more confident with my decision 😊

    • @diadorim273
      @diadorim273 2 месяца назад

      Good Luck!! ​@@mikoltgyuricza9090

    • @sys-administrator
      @sys-administrator 2 месяца назад +4

      We have a housing crisis so I'm not sure if you can move here

    • @CitizenMio
      @CitizenMio 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@sys-administrator
      Two average incomes can't afford a single average home now. But that's hypothetical, because the houses don't exist anyway.👌

  • @vintagedumpling9017
    @vintagedumpling9017 Месяц назад +5

    I moved to The Netherlands from Austria around 2 years ago now and this video made me apprechiate the place I live again. I needed that, as I´m starting to miss my hometown at the moment...Thank you ^^

  • @earyou4453
    @earyou4453 2 месяца назад +73

    Op een heerlijke zondagmiddag heerlijk "lanterfanten". Geweldig!

    • @EGO0808
      @EGO0808 2 месяца назад +3

      Dat is inderdaad de aloude uitdrukking! ‘Lanterfanten’. :-)))

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +6

      🌞🌞🌞

    • @flamingcroww
      @flamingcroww 2 месяца назад +5

      In the southern provinces and in the Flanders part of Belgium we say "Lanterfanteren"

    • @gerardhilde01
      @gerardhilde01 2 месяца назад +2

      Lanterfanten = niksen

    • @morriscolenbrander1395
      @morriscolenbrander1395 2 месяца назад

      Lekker lamballen

  • @MarkWladika
    @MarkWladika 2 месяца назад +14

    Beautiful essay David, thanks. We all need to hear this.

  • @jaydee25
    @jaydee25 2 месяца назад +11

    GEWELDIG! Nu heb ik meer waardering voor mijn eigen cultuur. Dankjewel 👏

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 glad to hear!

  • @yury2509
    @yury2509 2 месяца назад +6

    Well done. Good presentation. Thank you.

  • @doorleofferhaus3900
    @doorleofferhaus3900 2 месяца назад +4

    I love all the details! You made good use of the unusual amount of rain days we’ve been having. The attention to detail is amazing. Can’t imagine the number of hours it took to edit!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for noticing and the kind words! Took a while..but it was fun! :))

  • @Carole616
    @Carole616 2 месяца назад +14

    This video just made me feel warm and fuzzy all over. You are young and have figured out how to live life in the best way possible for you. Brilliant!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @captspot
    @captspot 2 месяца назад +13

    Such a well-done perspective on living (and working!) in the Netherlands. This made my day.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Aw this made my day! Thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @misterbacon4933
    @misterbacon4933 2 месяца назад +3

    Just an epic episode! Perfect! 😊

  • @Gabi-lb7ji
    @Gabi-lb7ji 2 месяца назад +10

    Love the edits and the video quality !

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @ErinMcCoy3
    @ErinMcCoy3 2 месяца назад +18

    Poetic. Lovely video as always!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 😁

  • @mikechomper420
    @mikechomper420 Месяц назад +5

    i always admired america for what it was untilll i turned 19 and saw how the world really was now im happy and proud that im a born and raised dutchy glad to have you here man hope you keep enjoying life in Holland :)

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words and welcome 🙏

    • @bluegiant13
      @bluegiant13 Месяц назад

      Same. Been to new york and everything seems outdated compared to the netherlands, while I still loved the experience I am happy that I have grown up in the netherlands.

  • @andykrishnaputra1668
    @andykrishnaputra1668 2 месяца назад +1

    A calming down video… giving hopes and helping us to be joyful (again) 👍🏽💙. Great stuff Dave !😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks 🙏🙏 wishing you hope and joy!

  • @OiZoProduct
    @OiZoProduct Месяц назад

    Wow, your way of telling your story is incredibly good, thanks for sharing your experiences!

  • @bartlucassen9145
    @bartlucassen9145 2 месяца назад +2

    Beautiful put together this vid!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @KESipples
    @KESipples 2 месяца назад +21

    Lol the goose bite part 😂

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Lol...I've encountered some mean geese over the years here....don't get too close..especially not when you are holding bread and cheese!

  • @user-xo2wz1td1u
    @user-xo2wz1td1u 2 месяца назад +9

    I love the touches of sarcasm, but you've also given me a new appreciation for my quiet life and my part-time job. Maybe they are something to strive for indeed.

  • @lolololol7573
    @lolololol7573 2 месяца назад +7

    This was really nice :) It sounds like you're feeling good and that's a relief. Moving to another country is a big deal, and not easy at all. Glad you're doing well, and get to recover as a workaholic!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks...that's a good reminder...moving abroad is a big deal...I often forget that...and then going through covid...thanks for the reminder =)

    • @lolololol7573
      @lolololol7573 2 месяца назад

      @@hidavidwen Aw, that sounds like you're going through a rough time. Get well soon, take good care of yourself. Take an extra day off work if you need to. Always get that extra recovery day for yourself even though you feel like you recovered. Take care.

  • @SanneBerkhuizen
    @SanneBerkhuizen 2 месяца назад +6

    I love this. Makes me appreciate my country a little more

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Aw glad to hear Sanne :) 🙏

  • @Kralixus
    @Kralixus Месяц назад +3

    You made me laugh when you mentioned "niksen". Its such a normal thing to me and other Dutch people but probably sounds real weird to anyone outside of the Netherlands. Gave me a good chuckle. Good video!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  23 дня назад +1

      Haha thanks, it’s something I’m doing right now and hope to talk more about it and spread the beautiful word :)

  • @MatthijsPaasMedia
    @MatthijsPaasMedia 2 месяца назад +2

    Greatly put. ❤
    Love to watch it.

  • @marcellovii4170
    @marcellovii4170 Месяц назад +2

    Brilliant sense of humor and great video, honest and complete, very well done ;)

  • @SamarArons
    @SamarArons 2 месяца назад +7

    Lovely portrait of Dutch life. The calm pace of your voice and filming conveys it perfectly, and is soothing to watch. I very much identify with it. I am Dutch. I love niksen, I do it daily. "What did you do yesterday?" "O, ik heb een beetje lopen niksen". (I practiced the art of not doing anything.) Brilliantly done, actually.

    • @adrimathlener8008
      @adrimathlener8008 2 месяца назад

      And there are already three books about #Niksen

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 Always was self conscious about my voice growing up actually so thanks for that :)

    • @SamarArons
      @SamarArons 2 месяца назад

      @@hidavidwen Your voice is very pleasant, and both civilized and natural.

  • @zustermerel4392
    @zustermerel4392 2 месяца назад +16

    I work at a GP, I snorted at the paracetamol bit 😂💯 so true

    • @dasja9966
      @dasja9966 2 месяца назад +5

      Lol, it kinda is true for most things. That said: if things are seriously wrong different treatment is available too. Got a friend who is free of cancer because of chemo, and my mom got spine surgery that got rid of her horrible nerve pains.
      Didn't even bankrupt them either.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Hahaha yeah 😂😂😂

  • @sunraii
    @sunraii 2 месяца назад +1

    What a sweet message. It helps me to appreciate what we have here. Thank you for sharing! A lot of what you say reminds me of Epicurus' idea of "ataraxia".
    I also have had 2 burn-outs and I am currently recovering ;)

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for sharing and also the “ataraxia” (I guess the idea of ‘freedom from worry’ has been around for a longgg time but we’ve forgotten how to rest as a human species)

  • @Leonardo-ql1qu
    @Leonardo-ql1qu 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks David, a really nice, honest video! It was you who brought 'niksen' to the attention, and I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up as a new international meme. It's a terrific word! From an Amsterdammer, from Haarlem.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏
      I really like the word…it’s what we need more of :) to learn to slow down!

  • @beeheart6324
    @beeheart6324 2 месяца назад +6

    Another beautiful, heart felt video. I love the way you understand that life in Europe is different from the US. Well done video, thank you! ;-)

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Aw thanks for the kind words =)

  • @vineethsai1575
    @vineethsai1575 2 месяца назад +7

    Well the thing I like about Amsterdam is, you can choose which life you want to lead. a high life partying every night, yes. a simple life in the suburbs feeding geese, yes.
    I switch between these 2 types every now and then. It's amazing!:)

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      The freedom is nice! And having the flexibility and ability able to switch is even nicer!

  • @mediataal
    @mediataal 2 месяца назад +2

    I love your cinematography. Very pleasing.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @bettiegorgels9637
    @bettiegorgels9637 2 месяца назад +2

    thank you David. You said it beautiful ❤

  • @lordlapswans
    @lordlapswans 2 месяца назад +9

    I think he found the coffeeshops 😂😂 great video !

    • @dbeerewout
      @dbeerewout 2 месяца назад

      😂😂🤣🤣

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Hahah oh yeah the “coffee shops” 😄

  • @renevanleeuwen1813
    @renevanleeuwen1813 2 месяца назад +5

    It is a bit tongue in cheek, but you nailed a few Dutch habits :) And regarding burn outs: the idea is to avoid them by aiming a bit under 100% achievement.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +4

      Ahh yes avoiding it of course is the best…yeah I learned about the Zesjescultuur (Sixes Culture) mindset here :) thanks for sharing

  • @cosmos-ol2rw
    @cosmos-ol2rw 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video with high quality! I really enjoy your vedios😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @Stereo4
    @Stereo4 2 месяца назад

    This is my favorite video of yours so far. I love the grey skies, you totally captured the vibes of living here.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Ah thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @eyyubalizada5835
    @eyyubalizada5835 2 месяца назад +6

    I think I experienced that niksen while watching your video haha

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +2

      Oooo that wasn’t the intention but glad to hear! 🙏🙏

  • @Lilliathi
    @Lilliathi 2 месяца назад +5

    You make us sound a bit lazy though. Our productivity is actually very high, exactly because we give our workers time live.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +2

      Haha yeah Dutch productivity is quite high..because there’s a big focus on efficiency and using time wisely?

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi 2 месяца назад +5

      @@hidavidwen Surely, but also because our relaxed work culture and egality on the work floor makes us well rested and motivated.
      The opposite can be seen in Japan, with high pressure, ridiculous work hours, and zero self-determination because the boss dictates you what to do. You'd expect peak performance from those workers, but they're actually less productive then we are.

  • @janhendrikvanoers4375
    @janhendrikvanoers4375 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you! This was nice!!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching and the kind words!

  • @JohnnyJaxmusic
    @JohnnyJaxmusic Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for being such an inspiration and great ambassador for our country

  • @khharkivsky
    @khharkivsky Месяц назад +3

    idk if i have only noticed this but when i hear americans talk about "muh our fast foods are so shit" im always so surprised cuz here in the netherlands kfc, mcdonalds and stuff taste REALLY good for some reason. can an american confirm whether this is true cuz maybe the taste is very poor in america due to less strict health regulations

  • @bennycaustic5102
    @bennycaustic5102 Месяц назад +3

    As a Dutch person, I must correct one of his statements. Dutch food is not more then just a cheese sandwhich.

  • @RudieVissenberg
    @RudieVissenberg 2 месяца назад +1

    LOL, I really was laughing out loud while watching your video. I think it is one of your best. I appreciate your sense of humour and your keen observations.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @luckysparkle738
    @luckysparkle738 2 месяца назад +22

    Thank you David for this and your honesty. I am a fellow American. Arrived here four weeks ago today . I have been watching you for a while . lol .. only two days it has not rained so much… talk about culture shock … despite having visited before … this is not a vacation… now it’s my “ life “ wish me luck 🍀… I too needed to slow my roll … I am a more mature American

    • @helenooft9664
      @helenooft9664 2 месяца назад +8

      I am Dutch, and believe me the last few months, it has reined a lot. But believe me, with spring and summer all the Dutch people are going outside and enjoying life.
      I have always said that i was happy that i was born in the Netherlands, beside the work/live balance, you can live your life the way you want, without anyone telling you about it. There is enough free time for your family, friends and hobbies. And yes we are paying a lot of taxes, but we get a lot back from it, we can see what the government spent it on. We have a good safety net working for our people, in the taxes are also state pension and pension, employers are paying 2/3 and the worker 1/3 of that pension. Dutch people love to travel to foreign country's. And I hope you will also enjoy life in my country, so welcome in the Netherlands.

    • @luckysparkle738
      @luckysparkle738 2 месяца назад +5

      @@helenooft9664 Good morning and thank you for your kind words of encouragement and your very warm welcome. Yes, I did lots of research and visited before making my choice . Somehow, my soul just feels so at “ home” here despite the weather . And , Yes ! This country is very beautiful.. I am so looking forward to my time here and how I too can make a contribution 😊

    • @hdebard
      @hdebard 2 месяца назад +4

      this year it rains all the time, that is not normal, even in the Netherlands, so cheer up!🙂

    • @ivarvaw
      @ivarvaw 2 месяца назад +4

      The weather has been horrible lately. It will get better soon :)

    • @HammAlexander
      @HammAlexander 2 месяца назад +3

      Complaining about rain.....a dutch thing... many ways to call bad weather... you wil learn them soon enough.

  • @rsg7221
    @rsg7221 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm Dutch and hate planning and miss proper nature.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Hey me too :) ⛰️⛰️

  • @marieke1985
    @marieke1985 2 месяца назад +2

    I just discovered your chanel. I love this video, watched it with a smile on my face. I am gonna check your other videos.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Aw thanks Marieke 😄 glad you got a smile on your face. Hope you have a nice week!

  • @CreoleSpirit1800
    @CreoleSpirit1800 Месяц назад +1

    Awesome video and great information. I’m a west coast/LA girl so I get your perspective, and understand how the experience of people from the area would be so different. It’s very helpful to have both view points especially for someone considering the “Dutch life”. Thanks for the video and thanks to everyone who commented😊😊!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  26 дней назад +1

      You’re welcome and thanks for watching! I lived in LA for 10 years…but yeah life is very different 😄

  • @ingejustavanderhelm5208
    @ingejustavanderhelm5208 2 месяца назад +5

    Our lives in the Netherlands are not simple anymore. We had 14 years of PM Mark Rutte and the destruction is real. My country is no longer what is was and my heart is broken.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for sharing...and sorry to hear your heart is broken but I'm curious...
      What are you excited or looking forward to in 2024? (in general)

    • @Tarotkaartje
      @Tarotkaartje Месяц назад

      Great question! I don't think you'll receive an answer because then she needs to take responsibility for her mood 😅

  • @renevaanhold
    @renevaanhold 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video!
    A clear message with humor.

  • @blafaard
    @blafaard 2 месяца назад +4

    Excellent video agaian David, amazing.
    You should do a series on a the backroads of NL, there is plenty to 'sea'.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 Good idea…I do feel a lot like “getting away” from city life as of late..

    • @blafaard
      @blafaard 2 месяца назад

      @@hidavidwen Tip: there is a 'weet je dat ook weer' channel, this guy looks up all the weird easter egg place sin NL.

  • @garrett3338
    @garrett3338 2 месяца назад +5

    Wonderful video, David! Planning to move there this summer with my family. :)

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey Garrett so finally making the move…congrats! Exciting! Wishing you and the family the best!!

    • @N911GT2
      @N911GT2 2 месяца назад

      Please don't. We don't need more immigrants!

  • @hasanverinc2712
    @hasanverinc2712 Месяц назад +1

    Great content! Totally agree.

  • @greybeard4034
    @greybeard4034 2 месяца назад

    Amazing way of storytelling and filming:) Love it

  • @Siriusly_Sirius
    @Siriusly_Sirius 2 месяца назад +1

    I smell influence from my favorite auteur in this one, David. 🤩 Well done with this one, as always. 😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Aw thanks for the kind words, was trying something a bit different but very much me and my personality for this one 🙏

    • @Siriusly_Sirius
      @Siriusly_Sirius 2 месяца назад +1

      You have a Wes Anderson vibe and I love it.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Ahh cool! I also love Wes Anderson and was trying to 'copy' and learn from some of his work! The nice thing is that Dutch architecture is very symmetrical...so it's like living in Wes Anderson movie hah (minus the 'colors')

  • @RobertHeinsch
    @RobertHeinsch Месяц назад +1

    Great video! And so true! Having lived in the Netherlands on and off for almost 20 years as an expat, your video made me remember why I always seem to come back here. Well done! 🙂

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks Robert! Curious to hear from you…personally from you, what has brought you back each time?

    • @RobertHeinsch
      @RobertHeinsch Месяц назад +1

      Well,@@hidavidwen, as an international lawyer, The Hague and the Netherlands in general offer a lot of good job opportunities. But also maybe more importantly as someone who has the tendency to be a workaholic myself, I have learned to appreciate the more relaxed lifestyle compared to my homeland Germany. 🙂 In that regard, your thoughts very strongly resonated with me, although I might have not been so aware of this aspect until I saw your video. ☺

  • @user-dz6mh1et5x
    @user-dz6mh1et5x Месяц назад +2

    Well done David. I'am A Dutch Guy and you really did a great explanation about the things going on here! I could learn from you haha. Keep on going!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Месяц назад

      Thanks! 🙏 glad I could offer a ‘different’ perspective haha and that’s what I love, being able to learn from each other!

  • @tgduroo
    @tgduroo 2 месяца назад +1

    amazing video, thank u so much brother

  • @framegote5152
    @framegote5152 2 месяца назад +6

    nice video! I think this is a good analysis of living in The Netherlands. Niksen, I think, is just relaxing and soaking up the atmosphere... let the wind blow your thoughts away.

    • @xueyingwang2971
      @xueyingwang2971 2 месяца назад +2

      Oh the winds do blow away your thoughts here hahaha (the frequent crazy winds here also blowed away my plant on the balcony😢

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 niksen!

  • @youteacher78
    @youteacher78 2 месяца назад +2

    Very poetic video with an almost Scandinavian cinema esthetic. Well done!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for noticing and the kind words 🙏

  • @novafalcosmith
    @novafalcosmith 2 месяца назад +2

    Such a simple but beautiful video ❤

  • @misterbacon4933
    @misterbacon4933 2 месяца назад +1

    Make more of these easy and sarcastic undertone episodes. THIS IS YOUR TALENT!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Aw thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it! 🙏

  • @sammytaylor9509
    @sammytaylor9509 Месяц назад +2

    What a true inspiration you are 😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Месяц назад

      Aw thanks...just another human trying to figure out life 😁

  • @yvonneip9980
    @yvonneip9980 2 месяца назад +1

    David, I really like your video as it’s vey poetic

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Aw thanks for the kind words 🙏

  • @expatfamilylive9041
    @expatfamilylive9041 Месяц назад

    Love your videos!!! We live in Almere and the life is even slower here 🩵🌸🏡

  • @vision1707
    @vision1707 2 месяца назад +12

    I want that Dutch life.

  • @Hensepens64
    @Hensepens64 2 месяца назад +2

    I follow your channel for a while. Its great to see you embrace the Dutch wat, and yet critical enough to realise that we have our flaws ..
    And about paracetamol.. its so crazy, but also sooo true 😂

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks 🙏 haha yeah but it’s always nice when we have appreciate and laugh about some things in society and life :)

  • @xJeanine81
    @xJeanine81 2 месяца назад +1

    I ❤ it and laugh a few times 😄 so nice to look at my Dutch cultre from another prespective, well done!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks 🙏 A lot we can learn from each other and different perspectives :)

  • @semkeukenrol1191
    @semkeukenrol1191 Месяц назад +2

    This video makes me think of the beautiful thing of are country instead of only the negative ones, thank you.

  • @johnkilcher477
    @johnkilcher477 2 месяца назад +6

    I've posted here a couple of times, but you get it. when I tell my freinds here in the u.s., about how the dutch lifestyle is a good concept, I get the befuddled looks from them. I tell them to go there for a week and just hang.... they won't understand. You did the right thing, I just wish that I did it back in 1999. Stay well.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks John..yeah it’s something that needs to be experienced :)

    • @sys-administrator
      @sys-administrator 2 месяца назад

      Hi John, that is because not everyone is wealthy like you are

    • @johnkilcher477
      @johnkilcher477 2 месяца назад

      It doesn't take wealth, just a desire to go on vacation to a foreing land other than Florida, Vegas or Hawaii. Pretty simple actually, escaping our "Exceptionalism" in this country.@@sys-administrator

    • @sys-administrator
      @sys-administrator 2 месяца назад

      @@johnkilcher477 It definitely talkes wealth to visit The Netherlands for a US citizen. Did you know that one out of three Europeans can't even afford a one week holiday to anywhere?

    • @johnkilcher477
      @johnkilcher477 2 месяца назад

      Dude, I worked over there off and on for a couple of years. The Dutch by and large get 5-6 weeks 'holiday', (vacation time) per year. Many of my colleagues who I worked with, have holidayed in India, gone on safaris in Africa, and, yes some even went to Disneyworld (YUCK). Meanwhile my fellow Americans work more than one job as a rule and when they go on vacation, it's most liklely to Florida, Vegas or Hawaii. And most of those get only 1 or 2 weeks vacation. You see in the Netherlands they practice a life work balance and let me tell you when quitting time arrives they all drop tools and go home to family They're not working fools, life is more than just work.
      @@sys-administrator

  • @Konaboy
    @Konaboy 2 месяца назад +4

    That’s was great!

  • @ILTOMBA
    @ILTOMBA 2 месяца назад +2

    Like the editing!

  • @longstockings
    @longstockings 2 месяца назад +5

    This video is like a quiet small square in Amsterdam, a so called Begijnhofje. Look it up, we have many in the Netherlands. And now we have one where David Wen lives on the internet. Thanks.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Yes there are many in the Netherlands :) and I guess one on the internet 😄 thanks!

  • @EmsCare
    @EmsCare Месяц назад

    hahahahha, this is the most funny video I have seen in a while! Thank you Mister Wen.

  • @kendraicu
    @kendraicu Месяц назад +1

    I love this video. Thank you. I assure you that those "Dutch Ways" of being are not just cultural. I've never been to the Netherlands and didn't even know how much Dutch ancestry I had until a few years ago, but, I am thoroughly Dutch! Those ways seem to be intrinsic. I live in America, and I finally understand why ... well a lot!! This video made me cry. Thank you! It's beautiful.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  26 дней назад

      Aw glad you could resonate and thank me for the kind words. Sounds like a trip to the Netherlands for you some time?

  • @Rafaga777
    @Rafaga777 Месяц назад +1

    Very lovable and dreamlike video with a slight touch of irony. Loved every second of it.

  • @filterbevatplastic
    @filterbevatplastic Месяц назад

    Watching this video at work really amplifies your statements

  • @Hcabul
    @Hcabul 2 месяца назад +2

    ❤Thanks for inspiring me for my own vids❤ I love to hear your opinion on The Netherlands. Keep up the good work!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks! And keep it up with the food vlogs…interesting to see what else is part of “Dutch cuisine”

    • @Hcabul
      @Hcabul 2 месяца назад

      haha for as far we can call it cuisine🤣@@hidavidwen

  • @meppigron8586
    @meppigron8586 17 дней назад +1

    As a foreigner who has lived in the NEtherlands for many, many years, I ABSOLUTELY agree with everything you have said!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  16 дней назад

      Nice to hear! 🙌 😄😄

    • @meppigron8586
      @meppigron8586 16 дней назад

      @@hidavidwen I think it's time to bring Niksen to the international level.-) as the Scandinavians did with their hugge.Hygge (/ˈh(j)uːɡə/, H(Y)OO-gə; Danish: [ˈhykə]; Norwegian: [ˈhŷɡːə]) is a word in Danish and Norwegian that describes a cozy, contented mood evoked by comfort and conviviality. As a cultural category with its sets of associated practices hygge has more or less the same meaning in both places and in both languages; however, the emphasis on hygge as a core part of Danish culture is a recent phenomenon, dating to the late 20th century. In the 21st century, the concept has also been familiarized abroad. Niksen+Hugge= happy life !

  • @brokenrecords123
    @brokenrecords123 2 месяца назад +16

    The more I watch your videos the more I feel as if I’m destined to live in the Netherlands someday. 40 hour work weeks in the office definitely aren’t for me even though it’s the “normal” and “successful” path. Obviously no country is perfect but the Dutch seem to have reached near (if not complete) “meaningfulness” in their lives as a society and that’s what I find most appealing. It might take me years to save up the money but I really want to settle there before I get too old.

    • @balinesecat54
      @balinesecat54 2 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences living in
      the Netherlands

    • @MissVindicat
      @MissVindicat 2 месяца назад +5

      It’s not even 40 hours anymore, many companies switched to 36 hours as a fulltime week. And lots of people work four days a week instead of five. I have Mondays off and it’s glorious. It completely changes my weekend. :)

    • @chipdale490
      @chipdale490 2 месяца назад +2

      Indeed, there are tonnes of peeps working parttime here. It's not looked down upon at all.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for sharing! It was surprise to learn that 36 hours is full-time...and that many people work flexible schedules (eg. like 4 days, 9 hours per day)...and by law, you can actually request to work fewer (or more) hours...company cannot say no (I made a video about part-time work culture in NL if you're interested)
      Best of luck!

    • @balinesecat54
      @balinesecat54 2 месяца назад

      Same Here

  • @DidierWierdsma6335
    @DidierWierdsma6335 2 месяца назад +3

    This video almost felt like an ASMR video LOL fitting given the topic😊
    As always a great video David keep up the great work👍
    En nog een prettige dag toegewenst?😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! Trying some new stuff =)

  • @noimnl
    @noimnl 2 месяца назад +3

    I really love watching your vlogs!! I hope someday I'll be able to find a job there. It will be a dream come true for me to settle down in NL.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 I hope you will one day too!

  • @ChristoNguyen
    @ChristoNguyen Месяц назад +1

    I'm an Asian American from Silicon Valley also relocated to the NL. I took some time off from corporate world after being laid off to go travel but I was seeking intense amount of stimulation to replace work stress. After some months of forcing myself to stay in one place, I really appreciate the simplicity here. I do feel guilty for participating in this life at a lot of times but also realizing that "niksen" is also productive for happiness. Thank you for posting

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  23 дня назад

      Ahh hello and nice to hear your story! I can relate in many ways :) hope you’re enjoying spring

  • @Centurion101B3C
    @Centurion101B3C 2 месяца назад +3

    Hm, That was probably the nicest and thoughtful way of describimg your ascension to becoming Dutch. Thank you.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏

    • @Centurion101B3C
      @Centurion101B3C 2 месяца назад

      @@hidavidwen Glad that you have found your Tao here.

    • @Centurion101B3C
      @Centurion101B3C 2 месяца назад

      @@hidavidwen Btw. I know what you must be going through. I was once a Bay Area resident (People's Republic of Berkeley). It was the place to fall terribbly (as in REALLY terrible) in love with. Died many 'Grateful Deaths' there. Lost my heart to her and she kept it.