Installing Mitee-Bite Pitbull Clamps Into A New 5-Axis Multi-Part Fixture | The Art of Fixturing
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Hoping to learn a few things from you. So, you are saying that talons on one side and pitbulls on another not as good? My second question is, How do you know how many pitbulls an application needs? Say I had pc 4140 PH 10" long,How many pitbulls you suggest? Finally the catalog says I need to use at least .150" of carrier stock you guys are talking about .06" and the engineer from MItee bite was talking like .100" I don't know what to go with.
Nice.
I wonder if i could use them with something more flexible.
Maybe mount them on moveable jaws.
I got horizontal 4th axis vise tomb stone.
I like that low grip, but i mostly run low quantity jobs.
Can you post link to those mighty bite manufacturer?
I think, i can come up with something.
Thanks.
Is there a recommended order for attaching and torquing the clamps down? For example, one side first, or opposite corners.
Yes,
We push one way to position and then lock it from the opposite side
As i was blamed a lot by your community the last time i try to ask a normal question now:
Why you use pitbull clamps on both sides? Doesn't it make things unnecessarily expensive?
Thank you for your answer and greetings from Germany
Yeah I thought the same. As you tighten one side does it not push the unclamped clamps on the opposite side to far away from tne billet. I though a solid/fixed pitbull would be used like a hardstop one one side at least.
With how that fixture has been machined, I don't think it's possible for the clamps to get "pushed away" from the billet, because the fixture is solid between the pitbulls, giving you that hard stop and preventing any side to side movement..
I'm pretty sure they could have gotten away with only using 2 pitbulls per piece, but hey, why use 2 when you can use 4,? 🤷♂️ .. Might as well hold your piece down with as much equidistant clamping force as possible.. Especially with the feedrates Titan uses..lol... I'm more than sure for a company like them, the cost of using 4 clamps per piece is relatively inexpensive vs the added security of knowing that the part isn't going ANYWHERE ;)
@@jamescyphe540 The problem with using 4 instead of 2 clamps is that the 4 do not generate more clamping force than 2. They produce exactly the same clamping force. The only thing you could argue is that you got a pull down effect on both side which is not very importand when machining raw stock as the lower side has not to be parallel to the upper side in most of the times.
So, this is my personal style of doing it. I learned from experience that it works best for me and there is absolutely no way that part is coming out.
So we machine a groove first that locks and positions the raw stock. Then bite in from both sides with equal force.
We always go one way first and then the other... and it positions the part perfectly.
We run very high feed rates and this gives us the needed rigidity in the workpiece.
Extra expense but we make up for it with lower part times and never having blocks fly out of the fixture.
Also, look at how low we are holding the part... .060 from the bottom with a knife edge.
Our EndMill drops all the way down.
If I used only 2 miteebites... we would have to purchase thicker material and sink it deeper.
Make sense?
- Titan
@@TITANSofCNC Have you ever considered working with 2 TalonGrips and 2 Pitbull clamps? It's the exact same rigidity, less expensive (at least at my dealer) and you only have to tighten 2 instead of 4 screws when doing mass production. No extra material needed and you can go exactly the same speeds and feeds you want.
What is the advantage of doing this instead of just using a vice with parallels?
Pit bull clamps are impressive for low profile clamping. The only downside is the small ‘stroke length’, material has to be sawn to close tolerances otherwise the clamps won’t grip
Then don't clamp on the sawn face!
Eventhough the clamp is fully tightened The part moves in sideways(slideaway)
How to correct ?
@@manjunathans3250
The part is sitting in a pocket.
my name jeff!
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