Sermon: Baptism - The New Covenant Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2022
- Pastor James will be preaching from Hebrews 8.
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
Really enjoying this series, thanks for preaching it!
Thank you James, really appreciate your faithfulness to Gods word. Prayers your way brother!
I am currently attempting to create a biblical approach to the Southern Churches of Christ perspective of baptism. Your teaching on Col 2 sheds light on this topic. I continue to both enjoy and am enlarged with your messages.
Why is it we can't accept that baptism DOES regenerate - if we believe? "Buried with Him in baptism in which you were also raised BY FAITH in the power of God that raised Him from the dead".
Cause you are trusting in water instead of Christ.
It says we are buried and raised with Christ IN BAPTISM by faith in the power of God that raised Jesus. Trust CHrist: baptism regenerates. Do not trust Christ - baptism will not regenerate.
Trust water - baptism also cannot save. @@user-vy9hr2ti2h
And yet elsewhere in scripture regeneration is tied to the new birth, and the dying of the old nature and coming to life of the new nature (John 3 and Colossians 2, for example). Does it make more sense that when Peter calls baptism the "washing of regeneration" that he is using baptism as a picture or regeneration, or that regeneration happens at baptism, as well as at the time when God gives you a new heart? Or are you somehow suggesting that people with sinful, rebellious hearts that hate God somehow want to be regenerated by the water of baptism?
No, baptism does not regenerate a person, baptism pictures regeneration.
So what are children considered to be, under the RB-CT? Not members of the invisible church, right. But are they called members in any sense? Are they “part of the covenant community,” though not part of the covenant? I just want to know the right language
48:03 personal save
Amen and amen! Soli Deo Gloria! FYI, at an average reading pace, Psalm 119 can be completed in about 15 minutes.
Are you trying to argue for Lutheranism 🤪😂
@@cosmictreason2242 ?
@@cosmictreason2242 Dr. White made reference to Psalm 119 taking a long time to read. I love this Psalm and desire others to know that it actually doesn't take long to read. Maybe more people will sit down and read the whole Psalm at once if they know this fact.
James, I love you! But what's up with that beard? 😅
“Durbinianly” 😂
Will you guys be putting this up in podcast format on apologia church?
Knowing that water baptism is a sign, what passages are actually referring to the actual real baptism into Christ and his death/life rather than the water symbolic baptism? E.g. 'Believe and be baptized' may refer more to believing and being incorporated into Christ.
Acts 2 either reads as follows:
Believe for the remission of sins, and be baptized
OR believe and then be baptized because of the remission of sins (which already happened). The same word ‘eis’ is used in other places in that fashion.
The water baptism isn’t symbolic. It is a part of the salvation process.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 If you seriously believe that then you might as well change your username to "water baptism saves."
@@christrescuedme2182
I could do that, or we could see what the Lord Jesus says;
_“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, _*_baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:_*_ and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”_
Matthew 28:19-20 KJV
*Q:* _What did he command and teach?_
Baptism, faith and repentance. Heretical concepts because you rather follow the tradition of men.
What about the apostles? What’s their take on water baptism?
_“Then Peter said unto them, _*_Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,_*_ and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”_
Acts 2:38 KJV
Surely this must be water baptism, since the gift of the Holy Spirit is separate. And again;
_“For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, _*_Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized,_*_ which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? _*_And he COMMANDED them to be BAPTIZED_*_ in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”_
Acts 10:46-48 KJV
Your contention is not with me. Your contention is with Jesus Christ.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 My "contention" is with heresy that blasphemes my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, for one must FIRST be born from above in the washing and renewing of Holy Spirit regeneration, NOT born from below in baptismal regeneration… which doesn’t exist (Titus 3:5).
It's too bad that Dr. White's summary of the book of Hebrews, "There is nothing to go back too," gives the impression that Jewish believers in Jesus left Judaism. Paul didn't think so either before or after his conversion. When we first read of him, he was pursuing the followers of "the Way" as if they were a Jewish sect, thus under the purview of the Sanhedron. Later he claims to be (present tense) a Pharisee (Acts 23:6) after participating in a ritual at the Temple in Jerusalem (Acts 21). The writer of Hebrews does not see Christ as a replacement for the Levitical Priesthood, each of whom "stands daily at his service..." (Hebrews 10:11). And of Christ he says, "Now if he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, since there are priests who offer gifts according to the law" (8:4). This isn't the replacement White makes it out to be. I am convinced that the Hebrew belivers we read of in the NT saw themselves rightly as the truest sect of Judaism hence they adopted the title from their rabbi, "THE way."
It’s replacing the old covenant. Christianity is the true fulfillment of the Judaism of 1440 BC. To call it Judaism now is to sow confusion because modern Jews and what is called Judaism is heresy.
@@cosmictreason2242 I can agree with your statement that Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. The difference I think lies in how we define "fulfillment." The state of modern Judaism is largely irrelevant to the points that White or I were making. To raise that issue is a red herring.
@@ArchDLuxe it really isn’t, when there are several forms of the Judaizer heresy that people promote in social media and one of the ways they do that is by arguing exactly like you did, quibbling about what should be viewed as the authentic name for the faith. We are Christians.
@@cosmictreason2242 what did I write that was quibbling about "the authentic name for the faith?"
I find it interesting that there is an argument on whether or not a believer needs to be water baptized or whether they can be baptized by faith in Christ.
In Hebrews 8, scripture shows us that the law could not be fulfilled for we were not able to. But the Father sent us a mediator full of the Spirit who WAS able to do that which we could not. And as Genesis 2 states, by His sacrifice, he built a day unlike any other day, a day of rest. For we no longer need to fulfill a law that we cannot do, for Christ has become the law for us.
So if Christ is our salvation, what must we do to be saved? Jesus states that if we put our faith in Him, he will ask the Father and he will give us his Spirit who will teach us all things. These are the fruits of the Spirit, or the fruits of life, for he who lives in the fruits of the Spirit will obtain eternal life. So man no longer works for their salvation through the sacrifice of animals, but by the Spirit through faith in Christ.
In the book of Acts, the Samarians accepted the word of Philip and was baptized, and yet the Spirit wasn't given until Peter laid hands on them and prayed that they would receive the Spirit. Then in Acts 10, Cornelius calls on Peter to come to Caesarea and speak to a crowd of Gentiles. This Peter does, and as he speaks the Spirit falls on all those who believes the words of Peter, and they speak in tongues.
Understand, at this time the gifting of the Spirit is new. Those who are of Christ, receives the Spirit, those who are not are still under the curse of the law. Water baptism is apart of the old covenant. Jesus was baptized, as well as all the Apostles. The baptism of the Spirit through faith is apart of the New Covenant and Peter, who was the first to believe on who Jesus was, became the first to receive the Spirit and he became the spokesperson for Christ. But even Peter did not understand the change that was happening. Even in 1st Peter, Peter tells us the importance of water baptism. But when one looks at the events of the book of Acts, it's not the water baptism that gives us the Spirit, but faith alone.
Now there are those that believe it is ok to be water baptized for you're just showing your dedication to Christ, but your faith in Jesus should be enough to demonstrate that. Being baptized in water is like putting your hand on the bible. Does the placing of the hand make your vow more solemn, then your faith in Christ and your life in the Spirit?
Water baptism does nothing to augment our relationship with the Spirit, but faith in Christ and our living in the fruits of the Spirit, does.
Water baptism is a testimony of what Christ has done. As an ordinance of the church, it is one of the chief ways that Christ uses to identify TO the church who belongs to the church and thus produces unity of faith and fellowship through the participation in them
@@cosmictreason2242 Well it's not about us, but about Christ. Do you believe in the salvation that Christ gives you, or do you believe that your water baptism saves you? Personally, I would put my money on faith.
@@q09876543 I think the question should be more like, Does one HAVE TO be baptized in order to be saved? We know that is not true....... but I do understand when people want to be baptized because it says so in so many places...... BUT not to be saved but to show forth a sign that one will follow Christ or I guess to join a Congregation. I honestly like RC Sproul's Teaching on this.......But I am aware that others disagree. PS. Pastor MacArthur And Sproul Sr. Were GREAT FRIENDS even with their differences on Baptism. I guess many will have to agree to disagree. Peace.
will the Spirit honor a person who is baptized by water or by faith? Personally, I think faith.
@@solochristo65 It's not us who gets to choose how salvation is given. The Apostle Peter believed you must be water baptized, yet when the Samerians were water baptised, they did not recieve the Spirit. Compared to the Gentiles who heard the message and believed. They were baptised by the Spririt even though they were not baptised by water
I like James White a lot but I am almost done with this message.....and all I am hearing is he's talking in circles. If, IFFFFFFF I had to go just by what he has said so far in this particular video, I could not ONE HUNDRED PERCENT say what he stands for in baptism.
Baptism is necessary for salvation
@@jesuschristsaves9067 Baptismal regeneration is a damnable heresy.
Me too
Salvation according to the Bible: Repent, believe, baptism and then receive the spirit.
Salvation according to Calvinism: the spirit draws, then man believes and repents and baptism. But baptism is only a symbol.
I’d stick with the Bible over Calvinism any day.
Except the thief on the cross is one glaring example that completely refuted your position. The thief wasn’t baptised with water yet he was saved.
@@Mr2001ghost
The thief also did not possess the Spirit so by your understanding, you do not need to be reborn again via the Spirit. People that use this argument clearly have no understanding of soteriology and have no regards for clear commands from the Lord;
_“For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he _*_commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord._*_ Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”_
Acts 10:46-48 KJV
_“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, _*_baptizing them_*_ in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: _*_Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:_*_ and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”_
Matthew 28:19-20 KJV
@@jesuschristsaves9067 The bible doesn’t say that the thief didn’t have the Spirit, you’re reading that into the text. And if he didn’t have the Spirit, what on Earth do you do with him in your theology? Is he just an exclusive, special case not representative of anyone else? He believed in Jesus and was saved...THATS IT.
Ironically your name is Jesus Christ Saves but really you’re saying, actually Jesus Christ made salvation possible through baptism but that’s an ordinance administered by man.
Please read Galatians and tell me how the covenant sign of baptism is the means by which we are saved.
@@Mr2001ghost
I don’t split the Bible apart in bite sized doctrinal bits to feed my ego and comfort and I don’t divorce the early church tradition either. If you’re asking how do I know that the thief didn’t have the spirit, then that means that might want to brush up on your biblical knowledge because the resurrection hadn’t taken place, therefore the spirit was not yet given;
_“He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. _*_(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)”_*
John 7:38-39 KJV
Also;
_“And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, _*_until ye be endued with power from on high.”_*
Luke 24:49 KJV
I don’t know why men want to engage in apologetics before first having a good rooted foundation in scripture, but that seems to be the model. Argue first, read later.
My theology allows for the thief on the cross to be saved because it is by God’s power that we are saved and also he is almighty, and depending on the dispensation, God can allow for the salvation of any man regardless of his relative knowledge or the entire revelation of the resurrection and what that entails. I don’t see baptism as a work of man, rather a grace from God that is carried out by men. I also don’t ignore the clear command in scripture to be baptized and to repent. All according to you are works since they are distinct from belief whereas I see them as coexistent in the community with belief in the saving of man.
Jesus Christ did make salvation possible. And will save all who place trust and obedience in his finished work. Word of advice, don’t copy past arguments without a deeper reading of scripture and the opponent’s position.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 So when Jesus tells Nicodemus that 'NO ONE' can enter heaven unless they've been born again, you interpret that to mean that some people i.e. the thief on the cross and Old Testament saints, can in fact enter heaven outwith the regeneration of the Holy Spirit? You claim to view the scriptures as a whole but you disconnect God's means of salvation between the Old and New Testaments, creating a complete lack of unity between the two. Abraham believed and it was credited to Him as righteousness which Paul explains in Galatians 3:8 is because the gospel was preached to Abraham.
In fact, although the outpouring of the Holy Spirit wasn't until Pentecost, the Holy Spirit is active throughout the Old Testament which is why the Psalter in the 55th Psalm can say, "Cast me not away from your presence, and take not your Holy Spirit from me."
As for church history, I will confess my knowledge is limited but growing. Right now i'm listening to a course on Church History and i'm still working through the late first and early second century but no where do we come across in the writing of Clement, or the writings of Ignatius, or in the Didache, the doctrine of baptismal regeneration.
So 'bite-sized doctrinal bits' actually means, overemphasis of certain passages creating discontinuity between the Old and New testaments. And 'early church tradition' really means, agreeing with the theology of those that i like and dismissing the theology of those that i don't like in Church History.
Jesus Christ doesn't make salvation possible. He ACTUALLY saves people. He doesn't open the door, He IS the door. This is why scripture can say that he saves to the "uttermost" (Heb. 7:25). He is not merely a key to eternal life but the Way, the Truth and the Life. He does not give over the ordinances of grace to men for them to dispense as they see fit but rather the ordinances are his flesh and blood and the sign of regeneration which is baptism by water which reflects our spiritual baptism by the Holy Spirit.
Word of advice: don't treat professing Christians as evil Ba'al worshippers but instead be gracious, kind, gentle and loving to those who disagree with you. Your arrogance in these posts in evident and your conclusions about my level of reading, research and knowledge is completely unfounded and based on nothing but pride and evil. As someone who claims to bear the name of our great Lord and Saviour you need to learn to treat those who disagree with the fruit of the Spirit rather than your wordly attitude that says you need to smite down those who need, according to you, to "brush up on their biblical knowledge" and that their model, according to you, is "argue first, read later." instead of making these conclusions based on two comments on the internet, why don't you actually attempt to love your neighbour and expose them to your point of view with some self-control, lest your ego take hold of you.
You'll be in my prayers, God Bless.